Tax Rate Question for Big Winners

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Originally Posted by coach belly

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Can you help me out with the RV one Rob and since the first two are hypotheticals, anyone?

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You must not have looked too hard.

I googled high-end RVs and this came up on the top of the page

https://www.insider.com/luxury-rvs-m...at-1-million-1

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The fact that inspector kew couldn't find any million dollar plus RV's and believes the place we bought ours from was "closed" certainly says a lot about his hypothetical abilities.

Max wasn't shaken? Hmmm....have you EVER seen him go into such a nervous ramble?

It's you two fools who need to make up history because you both feel insignificant.
Put your real names up, I dare you. Then sit back and wait to see how I can concoct the past. :)

So much genius here.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

If you were the guy wanting to get to the truth as you always claim, YOU would be asking these questions that some of us are asking as well as having done some investigating

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I am that guy, and I am asking these questions of you.

I'm willing to investigate you as well, should I contact Moses on that other forum?

Proof of your winning claims cannot be found in probability textbooks.

You must provide proof of your claims before you have any standing to demand that others prove their claims.

I realize that you will continue to make demands without standing, but I doubt that others will cooperate with you until you provide your proof first.

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

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Originally Posted by coach belly

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Can you help me out with the RV one Rob and since the first two are hypotheticals, anyone?

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You must not have looked too hard.

I googled high-end RVs and this came up on the top of the page

https://www.insider.com/luxury-rvs-m...at-1-million-1

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The fact that inspector kew couldn't find any million dollar plus RV's and believes the place we bought ours from was "closed" certainly says a lot about his hypothetical abilities.

Max wasn't shaken? Hmmm....have you EVER seen him go into such a nervous ramble?

It's you two fools who need to make up history because you both feel insignificant.
Put your real names up, I dare you. Then sit back and wait to see how I can concoct the past. :)

So much genius here.

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I think he was saying that he couldn't find any $1.5million Class-A motor coaches at that camper van chain store you eluded to.
No nervous anything from me. I can smack you around with facts. You know,,,those simple things that you try to thwart with your bullshit stories.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

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Originally Posted by coach belly

I disagree.

I think this has to do with you demanding proof of another member's winning claims, without being willing to provide proof of your own winning claims.

You have no standing to ask Singer to prove his claims, if you refuse to prove your own.

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Well you are just wrong coach belly. It has to do with the magnitude and feasibility of these claims. My claims that I make an upper 5 figure living from an advantage play method that is backed up by math and not even that unusual. There are many players doing what I do for a living, some at higher levels for significantly more money. Well 'many" might not be the correct word, although it seems like it because every time I turn on GWAE, there is some new card counter on.

Rob's claim on the other hand is so extraordinary that no one else is claiming it. There were two people that we read about who knew of this play. No one else has suggested they made this play. And the money 2.8 million dollars. That is a lot of money for any break the casino type story. So these claims are on completely different levels, not even in the same stratosphere. One is so outrageous it requires some kind of verification or supporting evidence.

I like the analogy that I previously used. One of these claims, mine is equivalent to someone saying they ran around the block. It is routine and requires no verification. The other claim is equivalent to some one saying they built a rocket and flew to the moon. Um, yeah, that one requires a little more than just that person's word.

What you are attempting to do is what you always do on these forums and it is dishonest coach belly. If you were the guy wanting to get to the truth as you always claim, YOU would be asking these questions that some of us are asking as well as having done some investigating and wondering why Rob's actual financial situation doesn't match his long running story. But no you are not about the truth are you? You are a one-sided troll.

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Kj, for all we know you could be some little old widow lady that plays bingo and trolls the internet. If you demand proof from others you must provide it yourself. No excuses.

Look this is quite simple. Singer is so desperate for this attention that he now says he completely changed his plans. The RV was packed, washed, gased up and ready to go, driving cross country to his summer "driveway". And then because Mike is willing to do a video interview, Singer puts these plans, not only involving him, but his wife on hold and completely postpones everything. How realistic is that? :rolleyes:

By the way Rob, do you understand the concept of video chat or a video interview? It can be done from anywhere! :D

I am interested in this interview and looking forward to it. Despite that I still hold a little bad feelings towards Mike for the way the Norm thing was handled, Mike Shackleford is respected and knowledgeable in the gambling community. There is no way he isn't going to want to see something backing up Rob's claims. :rolleyes: And without something supporting Rob's claim, Mike will probably be polite and not opine either way, but say something about leaving the discussion open until Rob has something to offer. That is about the best Rob can hope for. BUT, Rob will have gotten some of that attention he so desperately seeks.

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

I think he was saying that he couldn't find any $1.5million Class-A motor coaches at that camper van chain store you eluded to.

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Among other places...

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

I am not seeing 1.5 million dollar RV for sale on any site I look at. NOT EVEN CLOSE to that amount.

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

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Originally Posted by coach belly

I disagree.

I think this has to do with you demanding proof of another member's winning claims, without being willing to provide proof of your own winning claims.

You have no standing to ask Singer to prove his claims, if you refuse to prove your own.

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Well you are just wrong coach belly. It has to do with the magnitude and feasibility of these claims. My claims that I make an upper 5 figure living from an advantage play method that is backed up by math and not even that unusual. There are many players doing what I do for a living, some at higher levels for significantly more money. Well 'many" might not be the correct word, although it seems like it because every time I turn on GWAE, there is some new card counter on.

Rob's claim on the other hand is so extraordinary that no one else is claiming it. There were two people that we read about who knew of this play. No one else has suggested they made this play. And the money 2.8 million dollars. That is a lot of money for any break the casino type story. So these claims are on completely different levels, not even in the same stratosphere. One is so outrageous it requires some kind of verification or supporting evidence.

I like the analogy that I previously used. One of these claims, mine is equivalent to someone saying they ran around the block. It is routine and requires no verification. The other claim is equivalent to some one saying they built a rocket and flew to the moon. Um, yeah, that one requires a little more than just that person's word.

What you are attempting to do is what you always do on these forums and it is dishonest coach belly. If you were the guy wanting to get to the truth as you always claim, YOU would be asking these questions that some of us are asking as well as having done some investigating and wondering why Rob's actual financial situation doesn't match his long running story. But no you are not about the truth are you? You are a one-sided troll.

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Kj, for all we know you could be some little old widow lady that plays bingo and trolls the internet.

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Close mickey. Bingo AND Buffalo nickel slots or whatever they are called. Those are my things. :D

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

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Originally Posted by coach belly

You must not have looked too hard.

I googled high-end RVs and this came up on the top of the page

https://www.insider.com/luxury-rvs-m...at-1-million-1

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The fact that inspector kew couldn't find any million dollar plus RV's and believes the place we bought ours from was "closed" certainly says a lot about his hypothetical abilities.

Max wasn't shaken? Hmmm....have you EVER seen him go into such a nervous ramble?

It's you two fools who need to make up history because you both feel insignificant.
Put your real names up, I dare you. Then sit back and wait to see how I can concoct the past. :)

So much genius here.

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I think he was saying that he couldn't find any $1.5million Class-A motor coaches at that camper van chain store you eluded to.
No nervous anything from me. I can smack you around with facts. You know,,,those simple things that you try to thwart with your bullshit stories.

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How hate-filled and dumb are you? So you have an inventory sheet from the place from 7-8 years ago. Does it show a 2011 Newell with 1600 miles on it? Lots of those "facts" on it, right?
You showed your nervousness as soon as it hit you that your responses are always a sentence or two, except when you're rattled. That's where the post exponentially grows.

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Originally Posted by coach belly

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

I think he was saying that he couldn't find any $1.5million Class-A motor coaches at that camper van chain store you eluded to.

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Among other places...

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

I am not seeing 1.5 million dollar RV for sale on any site I look at. NOT EVEN CLOSE to that amount.

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Oops, max. Again.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Singer is so desperate for this attention

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Is that why you are giving him all this attention?

To fulfill his need for attention?

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Originally Posted by coach belly

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

I think he was saying that he couldn't find any $1.5million Class-A motor coaches at that camper van chain store you eluded to.

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Among other places...

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

I am not seeing 1.5 million dollar RV for sale on any site I look at. NOT EVEN CLOSE to that amount.

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Look, I didn't spend a lot of time looking for 1.5 million dollar RV's. There probably are some very high end RV's in that range. I would think anyway. There is a sucker born every minute. And I will concede Rob probably owns an RV. I mean his 'financials' don't exactly match up with that, but whatever.

All I did was spend about 2 minutes looking for the outfit that Rob posted is where he bought his RV. What I came up with is that the name posted was not even a dealer, but rather a make of RV. And the only thing I could find on the company is that they filed for bankruptcy and closed 3 or 4 years before Rob says he bought his RV. It did state that they reopened 2 years later coming out of bankruptcy, but on a much smaller scale, only offering service and parts for their existing RV that were out there.

Since I didn't spent a lot of time researching this, I simply asked Rob to direct me to something... anything a website for this company, a phone number, anything. Rob's response....the usual misdirects, but crickets about what I asked.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Look this is quite simple. Singer is so desperate for this attention that he now says he completely changed his plans. The RV was packed, washed, gased up and ready to go, driving cross country to his summer "driveway". And then because Mike is willing to do a video interview, Singer puts these plans, not only involving him, but his wife on hold and completely postpones everything. How realistic is that? :rolleyes:

By the way Rob, do you understand the concept of video chat or a video interview? It can be done from anywhere! :D

I am interested in this interview and looking forward to it. Despite that I still hold a little bad feelings towards Mike for the way the Norm thing was handled, Mike Shackleford is respected and knowledgeable in the gambling community. There is no way he isn't going to want to see something backing up Rob's claims. :rolleyes: And without something supporting Rob's claim, Mike will probably be polite and not opine either way, but say something about leaving the discussion open until Rob has something to offer. That is about the best Rob can hope for. BUT, Rob will have gotten some of that attention he so desperately seeks.

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This post shows the epitome of your stupidity....and inexperience. It ranks right there with your RV and hypothetical "abilities".

I see you're already boiling over with jealousy regarding this interview. Imagine that....wizard preparing to interview me a SECOND time, and all-world/never loses/the bj player's bj pro/Mr LV! continues to be unwanted and ignored. Poor baby. Don't cry for me, Argentino.

I never wash the RV. Too hard. Only repair facilities do it if I want. And I stay away from the Mexicans who roam the RV parks.

You're already preparing yourself for your coming meltdown over this, aren't you. Suck it up.

And wise up!

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

I never wash the RV. Too hard.

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Shades of Cousin Eddie!

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

The fact that inspector kew couldn't find any million dollar plus RV's and believes the place we bought ours from was "closed" certainly says a lot about his hypothetical abilities.

Max wasn't shaken? Hmmm....have you EVER seen him go into such a nervous ramble?

It's you two fools who need to make up history because you both feel insignificant.
Put your real names up, I dare you. Then sit back and wait to see how I can concoct the past. :)

So much genius here.

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I think he was saying that he couldn't find any $1.5million Class-A motor coaches at that camper van chain store you eluded to.
No nervous anything from me. I can smack you around with facts. You know,,,those simple things that you try to thwart with your bullshit stories.

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How hate-filled and dumb are you? So you have an inventory sheet from the place from 7-8 years ago. Does it show a 2011 Newell with 1600 miles on it? Lots of those "facts" on it, right?
You showed your nervousness as soon as it hit you that your responses are always a sentence or two, except when you're rattled. That's where the post exponentially grows.

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What are you even trying to say?
The baffling with bullshit time is over...

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

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Originally Posted by coach belly

Among other places...

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

I am not seeing 1.5 million dollar RV for sale on any site I look at. NOT EVEN CLOSE to that amount.

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Look, I didn't spend a lot of time looking for 1.5 million dollar RV's. There probably are some very high end RV's in that range. I would think anyway. There is a sucker born every minute. And I will concede Rob probably owns an RV. I mean his 'financials' don't exactly match up with that, but whatever.

All I did was spend about 2 minutes looking for the outfit that Rob posted is where he bought his RV. What I came up with is that the name posted was not even a dealer, but rather a make of RV. And the only thing I could find on the company is that they filed for bankruptcy and closed 3 or 4 years before Rob says he bought his RV. It did state that they reopened 2 years later coming out of bankruptcy, but on a much smaller scale, only offering service and parts for their existing RV that were out there.

Since I didn't spent a lot of time researching this, I simply asked Rob to direct me to something... anything a website for this company, a phone number, anything. Rob's response....the usual misdirects, but crickets about what I asked.

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kew, allow me to clue you in, since you are so interested and it isn't gonna change anything here whether you or max like it or believe it or not, because of your obsessive agendas.

The place I bought it did exist then and it had this unit on its lot. Not really "new" but new enuf to give me the new vehicle warranty. It was the first time I used any serious clump of the DU money, which was all cash and in my safe. I actually took the money for it out of my retirement savings in order to create a trail. Then in time I replenished my account.

And I've said this before--those silly entries if that's what they are on whatever personal info report you looked up (such as welfare, food stamp, and eviction) are errors. That's why you can't find them anymore. That eviction entry is full of spin after I said I knew nothing about it because it never happened, but was probably from the place we had to stay at because our home sold so quickly as we waited for our first RV to arrive at the dealer so we could travel as full-timers. I chose to just break the short term lease and they got a judgement. Which of course means nothing to a retiree who not only PLAYS at an advantage--I LIVE it.

This is all something you and the little people who despise me here have no concept of. You think a gambler who wins what I did the way that I did is just gonna put money into banks and go on spending sprees, while not purposely creating a few blemishes on their history at the same time. It was all strategic. You and max would both still be in jail if what happened to me happened to you.

Laughing hysterically at Rob thinking anyone or everyone is rattled. :D

Nobody even cares. We are a people sitting home during a shutdown/stay at home situation, bored out of our minds, poking holes in an obvious 20 year troll story.

You want to talk about rattled....who is the guy that up and cancelled a trip and rearranged his life (supposedly).

You know the old saying about the poker player looking around the table trying to figure out who the big "fish" is not realizing it is him? Well Rob is on this forum telling everyone to wise up and how everyone else is such an idiot, not even realizing he is the idiot and laughing stock of the whole community. It is funny, but also honestly sad.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Laughing hysterically at Rob thinking anyone or everyone is rattled. :D

Nobody even cares. We are a people sitting home during a shutdown/stay at home situation, bored out of our minds, poking holes in an obvious 20 year troll story.

You want to talk about rattled....who is the guy that up and cancelled a trip and rearranged his life (supposedly).

You know the old saying about the poker player looking around the table trying to figure out who the big "fish" is not realizing it is him? Well Rob is on this forum telling everyone to wise up and how everyone else is such an idiot, not even realizing he is the idiot and laughing stock of the whole community. It is funny, but also honestly sad.

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Laughing at Rob is kind of like 'midget tossing'. You know it is wrong, but it is so damn funny!

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Laughing hysterically at Rob thinking anyone or everyone is rattled. :D

Nobody even cares. We are a people sitting home during a shutdown/stay at home situation, bored out of our minds, poking holes in an obvious 20 year troll story.

You want to talk about rattled....who is the guy that up and cancelled a trip and rearranged his life (supposedly).

You know the old saying about the poker player looking around the table trying to figure out who the big "fish" is not realizing it is him? Well Rob is on this forum telling everyone to wise up and how everyone else is such an idiot, not even realizing he is the idiot and laughing stock of the whole community. It is funny, but also honestly sad.

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There, you see kew?--I got my stuff done so now I'm giving you something to do! Max is one angry dude here. But you---you're really obsessed with this stuff and can't stop trying to convince yourself that you're right and I'm wrong. It's what the weak people do. It's either this, or playing with your little pee pee.

I hate to do this. I'm starting to feel like I'm making fun of another Alan.
It's called....get ready....Country COACHES! That means, eh-em....they sell COACHES. Yikes!!

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Laughing hysterically at Rob thinking anyone or everyone is rattled. :D

Nobody even cares. We are a people sitting home during a shutdown/stay at home situation, bored out of our minds, poking holes in an obvious 20 year troll story.

You want to talk about rattled....who is the guy that up and cancelled a trip and rearranged his life (supposedly).

You know the old saying about the poker player looking around the table trying to figure out who the big "fish" is not realizing it is him? Well Rob is on this forum telling everyone to wise up and how everyone else is such an idiot, not even realizing he is the idiot and laughing stock of the whole community. It is funny, but also honestly sad.

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Laughing at Rob is kind of like 'midget tossing'. You know it is wrong, but it is so damn funny!

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KJ, you blew the perfect set up line; "I call midgets, "Rob", because they make little sense.". Have the veal, I am here until Thursday.

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

I hate to do this. I'm starting to feel like I'm making fun of another Alan.
It's called....get ready....Country COACHES! That means, eh-em....they sell COACHES. Yikes!!

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Country Coaches is a brand of RV, not a dealership Rob. The company filed for bankruptcy in 2009. Here is an article from Oregon coving the final sale of their assets in 2010! Do you understand what that means? They sold whatever RV's they had to a few dealerships across the country, who then in turn sold that inventory.

I mean I am not adamant about this because I only know what a quick look is turning up. If you have something that disputes this like say a bill of sale from Country Coaches dealership of which it appears there never was such a thing (country coach is a brand of RV, not a dealership) then feel free to show it. I mean you can clear up 2 or 3 different things now, showing that bill of sale.

But you won't because any bill of sale is going to show you purchased a used RV and for a fraction of the price you claimed. Your 20 year troll is coming apart at the seams as you try to add on. It always works that way. You people always end up hanging yourselves.

https://www.oregonlive.com/business/...hs_assets.html