Objective proof?

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Yes Rob. I took 3 minutes at the end of a busy day to point out that your new lie (diversion) occurred 5 full years before you even came up with the double-up bug lie, that you needed to divert from. THAT is my entertainment! :)

And nice try Rob, but you aren't going to troll me or any other real AP into proving anything to a lying troll on an internet forum. :rolleyes:

You are in the same league as your new buddy up in Reno who almost daily challenges me to play him in blackjack one on one in a saloon like it is the wild west. The whole lot of you trolls are detached from reality and seem to live in a fantasy world.

Now off to work. Another busy day, few days actually after sitting around for most of the past 3 months. :cool:

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You're funny kew. The real word is CONTROLL. Tater controlls you on GF and I controll you over here. The entertainment part is watching you continuously get caught in lies, then trying to lie your way out of it like you just did. And who doesn't notice how desperate you are to set your lies straight so you only worry about them 23 hours every day :)

Yup you're a busy guy alright. A regular LV Man-About-Town!

BTW....my latest hit!

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Hey Gringo, Nice Hit !!!
and my sincere Congratulations to the person who actually hit this jackpot. Yes, the pic from the side, instead of front and center while seated at the machine raises doubts as to whether the picture taker and the jackpot winner are the same person. Also, the fact that you didn't buy down the next hand to 5 credits to play off your 2X bonuses, raises even more suspicion. The easy way to clear up any confusion is to produce a picture of the check from the casino with your name on it or a W-2 G for the same amount and date with your name on it. That will clear up any doubts.

Cerveza Fria,

I'm sure you're aware that Rob.Singer would never get his photo taken with the jackpot or check because doing so could be misconstrued as bragging. It's so proletariat to get your pic next to a jackpot.

I'm sure Rob.Singer turned down any photo ops, and I don't blame him. Unless I were wearing my best Hawaiian shirt, there is no way I'd want my pic on the wall. You've gotta look fashionable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MIVJ8OLKh0

I'm really, really pleased that he won.

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

No one believes for a second Rob plays $250 a spin video poker. We especially don't believe he had a pat royal on a multiplier.

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I believe he hit it, no reason to think otherwise. People hit jackpots all the time on negative games and someone did on this machine. We don’t know how deep he was at that point, but certainly more believable than other claims on these forums. And definitely more believable than someone winning at negative table games 48 out of 50 days for hundreds of thousands of dollars while being comped like a king. And coming back month to repeat the process at higher winning levels.

As someone who believes Rob led a successful life and had a legitimate work career, I believe he has the money to play at this level on a negative game. And I don’t think there are comps making it positive, nor do I believe he cares about free food and rooms. Makes no sense to me why he would play at this level but it’s his life and money, not mine.

That all said, this provides him an excellent opportunity to prove his doubters wrong and shove it in their faces. Showing Dan or the Wizard the W2G for this hit and them verifying it should be acceptable to anyone that Rob and this claim are true. Somehow I doubt that is going to happen though.

So it’s back to carrying on as usual.

I wanted proof so I went to the video.

Nice hit Rob!!!

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Originally Posted by The Boz

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

No one believes for a second Rob plays $250 a spin video poker. We especially don't believe he had a pat royal on a multiplier.

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I believe he hit it, no reason to think otherwise. People hit jackpots all the time on negative games and someone did on this machine. We don’t know how deep he was at that point, but certainly more believable than other claims on these forums. And definitely more believable than someone winning at negative table games 48 out of 50 days for hundreds of thousands of dollars while being comped like a king. And coming back month to repeat the process at higher winning levels.

As someone who believes Rob led a successful life and had a legitimate work career, I believe he has the money to play at this level on a negative game. And I don’t think there are comps making it positive, nor do I believe he cares about free food and rooms. Makes no sense to me why he would play at this level but it’s his life and money, not mine.

That all said, this provides him an excellent opportunity to prove his doubters wrong and shove it in their faces. Showing Dan or the Wizard the W2G for this hit and them verifying it should be acceptable to anyone that Rob and this claim are true. Somehow I doubt that is going to happen though.

So it’s back to carrying on as usual.

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lol I guess it isn't quite that high of play due to being multihanded with lower variance but given what Rob has said in the past it is very unlikely he is truthful in hitting such an outlier.

Roughly it is a1 in 3 million shot (not sure the frequency of 2x on every board). I mean perhaps he did. I'd be surprised but I wouldn't give many odds to bet against it. Anything is possible.

He went through a lot of effort on the Newell. It was all nonsense. Not sure why you'd believe this ?

Rob may very well have more money than he is given credit for but given his history and motives you're not very sharp if you think this is likely a picture of his play.

As much as I like his claim of the glare because of it being a desktop sort of machine, light still reflects from all sorts of angles. Glares on machines are not really a thing if you turn your flash off. Lights are subdued in casinos. His response is good for a laugh nothing more.

Seriously,
Wise up

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

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Originally Posted by The Boz

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

No one believes for a second Rob plays $250 a spin video poker. We especially don't believe he had a pat royal on a multiplier.

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I believe he hit it, no reason to think otherwise. People hit jackpots all the time on negative games and someone did on this machine. We don’t know how deep he was at that point, but certainly more believable than other claims on these forums. And definitely more believable than someone winning at negative table games 48 out of 50 days for hundreds of thousands of dollars while being comped like a king. And coming back month to repeat the process at higher winning levels.

As someone who believes Rob led a successful life and had a legitimate work career, I believe he has the money to play at this level on a negative game. And I don’t think there are comps making it positive, nor do I believe he cares about free food and rooms. Makes no sense to me why he would play at this level but it’s his life and money, not mine.

That all said, this provides him an excellent opportunity to prove his doubters wrong and shove it in their faces. Showing Dan or the Wizard the W2G for this hit and them verifying it should be acceptable to anyone that Rob and this claim are true. Somehow I doubt that is going to happen though.

So it’s back to carrying on as usual.

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lol I guess it isn't quite that high of play due to being multihanded with lower variance but given what Rob has said in the past it is very unlikely he is truthful in hitting such an outlier.

Roughly it is a1 in 3 million shot (not sure the frequency of 2x on every board). I mean perhaps he did. I'd be surprised but I wouldn't give many odds to bet against it. Anything is possible.

He went through a lot of effort on the Newell. It was all nonsense. Not sure why you'd believe this ?

Rob may very well have more money than he is given credit for but given his history and motives you're not very sharp if you think this is likely a picture of his play.

As much as I like his claim of the glare because of it being a desktop sort of machine, light still reflects from all sorts of angles. Glares on machines are not really a thing if you turn your flash off. Lights are subdued in casinos. His response is good for a laugh nothing more.

Seriously,
Wise up

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Boz is probably trying to convey a message of, what does it matter. Everyone who has read this forum knows who and what Rob is along with his idiosyncrasies. Most everyone has someone like him in the family.

It doesn't make a difference whether he hit this or not. I don't believe it for a minute. But this kind of stuff is what makes Grandpa Newell a goat on these forums:)

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

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Originally Posted by The Boz

I believe he hit it, no reason to think otherwise. People hit jackpots all the time on negative games and someone did on this machine. We don’t know how deep he was at that point, but certainly more believable than other claims on these forums. And definitely more believable than someone winning at negative table games 48 out of 50 days for hundreds of thousands of dollars while being comped like a king. And coming back month to repeat the process at higher winning levels.

As someone who believes Rob led a successful life and had a legitimate work career, I believe he has the money to play at this level on a negative game. And I don’t think there are comps making it positive, nor do I believe he cares about free food and rooms. Makes no sense to me why he would play at this level but it’s his life and money, not mine.

That all said, this provides him an excellent opportunity to prove his doubters wrong and shove it in their faces. Showing Dan or the Wizard the W2G for this hit and them verifying it should be acceptable to anyone that Rob and this claim are true. Somehow I doubt that is going to happen though.

So it’s back to carrying on as usual.

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lol I guess it isn't quite that high of play due to being multihanded with lower variance but given what Rob has said in the past it is very unlikely he is truthful in hitting such an outlier.

Roughly it is a1 in 3 million shot (not sure the frequency of 2x on every board). I mean perhaps he did. I'd be surprised but I wouldn't give many odds to bet against it. Anything is possible.

He went through a lot of effort on the Newell. It was all nonsense. Not sure why you'd believe this ?

Rob may very well have more money than he is given credit for but given his history and motives you're not very sharp if you think this is likely a picture of his play.

As much as I like his claim of the glare because of it being a desktop sort of machine, light still reflects from all sorts of angles. Glares on machines are not really a thing if you turn your flash off. Lights are subdued in casinos. His response is good for a laugh nothing more.

Seriously,
Wise up

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Boz is probably trying to convey a message of, what does it matter. Everyone who has read this forum knows who and what Rob is along with his idiosyncrasies. Most everyone has someone like him in the family.

It doesn't make a difference whether he hit this or not. I don't believe it for a minute. But this kind of stuff is what makes Grandpa Newell a goat on these forums:)

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From his posting I get "I more or less believe Rob but who cares" when it should be flipped the other way. I more or less know Rob is lying..

I don't particularly care either. I'm not going to write pages on it but it is some new forum drama and if there is one thing Rob Singer does, he brings it.

Rob is trying to get a rise out if people...which is what Rob does. He seeks attention.

I simply don't care anymore about his attention seeking needs. But just for the fun of it....didn't he post several weeks ago that he was in transit up to South Dakota for the summer (staying with what ever kid he mooches off of for during the summer months)?

So my question is which small South Dakota Indian Casino has $5 multi-play in a high limit room? For that matter which even has a high limit room? :cool:

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Rob is trying to get a rise out if people...which is what Rob does. He seeks attention.

I simply don't care anymore about his attention seeking needs. But just for the fun of it....didn't he post several weeks ago that he was in transit up to South Dakota for the summer (staying with what ever kid he mooches off of for during the summer months)?

So my question is which small South Dakota Indian Casino has $5 multi-play in a high limit room? For that matter which even has a high limit room? :cool:

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Any guy that would proudly post up pics of a bunch of 40 year old CB equipment in his daughter's spare room would be supplying much more evidence than this. :)

Especially since everyone has already seen his pic and knows his name. This is just another case of posing in someone else's Newell....lol

I think what this is really about is in this very thread, I recently said no one is required to prove anything, even Rob. So Singer naturally posted some fantastic claim to see who would ask for further proof. :D

Well I am not asking for proof. I don't believe it based on his long history.

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

Roughly it is a1 in 3 million shot (not sure the frequency of 2x on every board).

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Ok thanks for the info. For whatever reason I thought it was a 649,350.6494 to 1 shot.

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Originally Posted by tableplay

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Roughly it is a1 in 3 million shot (not sure the frequency of 2x on every board).

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Ok thanks for the info. For whatever reason I thought it was a 649,350.6494 to 1 shot.

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How often do you have a multipler from a previous pat hand? I estimated 1 in 4-5ish but TBH I didn't care enough to look it up so I ballparked.

Do you disagree ?

Someone is clearly giving you bad info.

If you want to look around for the odds of having jacks or better dealt pat then you'll have the right number.

You're welcome.

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Actually I went back and did the math from other #s I found. My ballpark was pretty fucking spot on with 5x. (you hit a pat hand a little over 20% of the time) Granted I didn't multiply it out exactly which is why I said roughly.

I hope you find this info useful as it has wasted several minutes of my time but i'm always glad to help.

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

BTW....my latest hit!

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Sure looks pretty.

What casino, and when did you hit it?

No, I don't care enough to seek verification from the casino; just wonderin'.

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

Roughly it is a1 in 3 million shot (not sure the frequency of 2x on every board).

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Ok thanks for the info. For whatever reason I thought it was a 649,350.6494 to 1 shot.

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How often do you have a multipler from a previous pat hand? I estimated 1 in 4-5ish but TBH I didn't care enough to look it up so I ballparked.

Do you disagree ?

Someone is clearly giving you bad info.

If you want to look around for the odds of having jacks or better dealt pat then you'll have the right number.

You're welcome.

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Actually I went back and did the math from other #s I found. My ballpark was pretty fucking spot on with 5x. (you hit a pat hand a little over 20% of the time) Granted I didn't multiply it out exactly which is why I said roughly.

I hope you find this info useful as it has wasted several minutes of my time but i'm always glad to help.

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I was referring to the probability of being dealt a royal flush.

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Originally Posted by tableplay

Ok thanks for the info. For whatever reason I thought it was a 649,350.6494 to 1 shot.

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How often do you have a multipler from a previous pat hand? I estimated 1 in 4-5ish but TBH I didn't care enough to look it up so I ballparked.

Do you disagree ?

Someone is clearly giving you bad info.

If you want to look around for the odds of having jacks or better dealt pat then you'll have the right number.

You're welcome.

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Actually I went back and did the math from other #s I found. My ballpark was pretty fucking spot on with 5x. (you hit a pat hand a little over 20% of the time) Granted I didn't multiply it out exactly which is why I said roughly.

I hope you find this info useful as it has wasted several minutes of my time but i'm always glad to help.

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I was referring to the probability of being dealt a royal flush.

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Well yea, but thats not the odds of this 'shot' happening. Not sure why you'd be referring to those odds.

This is actually a considerably longer shot.. 5x as much.

Oh well at least now we understand each other.

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

Not sure why you'd be referring to those odds.

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Because Ron was dealt a royal flush.

To generate the 2x and 3x multipliers that Ron cashed his dealt royal flush on, it would be helpful to know what the dealt hand was on Ron's previous spin before the dealt royal flush spin. To generate the 2x multiplier, the ending hand of the spin before the dealt royal flush spin, would need to be a jacks or better pair, quads not consisting of rank 5 to King (kicker or not), a straight flush or a royal flush. To generate the 3x multiplier, the ending hand of the spin before the dealt royal flush spin would need to be two pair or quads of rank 5 to King. So there are a very large number of possibilities of what Ron was dealt on the spin before the dealt royal flush spin, that could generate a 2x and a 3x multiplier. The question then is what is the probability of getting exactly one 3X multiplier and exactly one 2x multiplier on the previous spin. I'm not interesting in going through the combinatorics of all the dealt hands that could lead to the 2x and 3x multiplier that two of Ron's five dealt Royals were used on. BTW, it is not at least one 2x and not a least one 3x multiplier, but exactly one of each, so the odds are a lot longer than 5x on the shot as you defined it. Also pat hands have nothing to do with the calculation of the probability of this shot, only the ending hand. If you get dealt a pair of jacks plus rags, you are holding the jacks. If they don't improve you get a 2x multiplier otherwise it could be a better multiplier available for the next spin. But many many other holds (for example you hold an Ace and get another Ace plus rags) besides a pair of jacks could get you a 2x multiplier to be cashed in on by one of Ron's royal flushes on the ensuing deal - again I am not going to go through all of the possible holds that could generate these multipliers.

Weird shit happens. My wife who has probably lifetime played less than 10k hands of VP got a $0.25 dealt royal on 5 play BP at the Lucky Dragon while playing off free play from their double jackpot promotion. In this case though the odds are Rob wasn't the one playing and has never played that level of UX.

I'm not going to go back and search for it but he had said something not to far back about not playing anything over a $1 anymore, IIRC. Also, he wouldn't be paying for Vegas vacations if he was sporting that kind of action.

You can wish all you want max so you aren't in such "pain" over it, then bizzarely claim how "your wife" hit something so you don't look like such a loser. The fact is, when I hit these infrequent 6-figure jackpots it tears apart your narrative of "he's cousin Eddy" and "he lives off his children" and "he's broke"....which make you and a few others left feeling like fools.

I still sit here smiling, wondering when you and your envious pals are gonna show us where I "stole" that picture from, which absent that stretch is why you're desperately claiming how I lurk in Hi-limit rooms (at my age :) ) waiting for others to hit 6-figure winners (of course, a guaranteed event on VP machines everywhere) so I can somehow weasel my way into their world and snap some pictures. Quite a feat for someone who LIVES in LV, don'tcha think? How about for someone who's only there for a day or two every 4 months? :)

My sense tells me you don't really believe that stuff, but your damaged pride compels you to run with it.

How about I post a picture of the cash? Maybe if you admit to how uneasy it'll make you feel!

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Rob is trying to get a rise out if people...which is what Rob does. He seeks attention.

I simply don't care anymore about his attention seeking needs. But just for the fun of it....didn't he post several weeks ago that he was in transit up to South Dakota for the summer (staying with what ever kid he mooches off of for during the summer months)?

So my question is which small South Dakota Indian Casino has $5 multi-play in a high limit room? For that matter which even has a high limit room? :cool:

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We're back for our own reasons for a few weeks goofbutt. I stopped in LV for some Hi-limit VP entertainment with a friend. I actually won just over $165k on that machine--just my 2nd time playing UX because of his tutelage. Negative ev for sure, but I'm not a pro player any more so who cares?

Boz, I tried the W2G route before. All they do is claim I photoshopped them. I'll try the cash picture this time. Watch what they say....:)