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That was a wonderful post, Boz. It was from your heart, and yet still based in the reality of this sad situation. My own post on the subject, earlier today, was not gloating. Just making sense out of everything based on new information.
Like I said, I long suspected Alan has a gambling problems as I similarly suspect with several others of the AP hate brigade. And that explains the bitterness.
I no longer will fight with Alan, no matter what he says about me in attempts to discredit me, to somehow make himself feel better. And when I have my daily chat with God today, I will ask him to give Alan the wisdom and strength to make good decisions, turn his life around and make amends to his family life with children and grandchildren.
I really don't understand how these guys aren't some of the richest people in town. I mean they are buddy buddy with Rob Singer who has the stone cold nuts on how to beat Video Poker! How the Fuck can they be so broke?
I blew over 10 grand going to hockey games in the last two months from playing Video Poker and taking advantage of Promotions, Mistakes and Mailers but these guys tell the APs that APing is BS and their system is how you win in the Casino.
The charger is probably in the pawn shop. We all know Alan is attempting to shift blame. Jason don't let your dad get his mitts on the camera or it will probably be there as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
I bought the original camera and you lost the charger. So you volunteered your own camera.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLaPiNFuNK
Where is my charger?
Good post, Boz. Nice to see you're still hale and hearty.
As a couple of other forum folks can attest, I felt this coming. A couple of clues stood out like the proverbial sore thumbs. I'm not going to do much piling on, though. I'm sure Mr. Mendelson knows his business inside and out. He probably has exhausted most reasonable options and strategies. Businesses fail, despite decades of work.
If the financial downhill snowball was a business/gambling intertwine, well, I've seen it before. It provides an opportunity for the person trying to save the sinking business to bury himself in distraction and debt. An excuse to amp up the degeneracy. And as funds shrink, the tendency is to play longer odds events. Parlays in sports. Small and tall in craps. Trifectas in horse racing.
It's all sad. But it's not surprising.
Is it your new plan to have 18 shows in a row?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by MisterVIs it your new plan to have 18 shows in a row?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Can someone give us a TLDR, especially since it appears Jason has deleted his posts? :(
Alan is a degenerate gambler.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS__
Alan is neglecting his family responsibilities in order to fuel his negative EV pursuits as a dice player. Kid can't get him out of the casinos.
The fun has stopped for Alan and his family. It is now time for him to up his bets to get even again.
Just another boomer squandering the remainder of his resources and fucking over his kid. Pretty typical actually.
Oh yeah, Alan wants the camera so he can pawn it and settle up on some markers. Seems the pension and social security isn't quite making ends meet due to his addiction.
In hindsight, alan moving from So Cal to Las Vegas probably didn't help things too much.
Oh well, a gamblin' man has to do what a gamblin' man has to do.
The Troubleshooter or The Money Man Alan Mendleson?? I guess he is now the Dice Shooter!
These guys always have a hard time around this time of the month. After the 3rd rolls around everything will be peachy again.
Alan Mendelson, the former Channel 9 business and consumer reporter, talks to the L.A. Business Journal about his kidney and pancreas transplant, his infomercials pitching paid products and how he sees his firing from KCAL after 16 years.
They said, “We can replace you with two or three other reporters.” They let go of me and a bunch of other people over the age of 50. No mistake about it. We were replaced by younger people with blond hair and C-cups who made a lot less money. That’s the reality of the business.
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Alan Mendelson, the onetime business and personal finance reporter for KCAL, spent years telling viewers he could help them find "best buys." But he lost his job in 2006 and has since made his living producing infomercials (many for lawyers) and a weekend "Best Buys" show that airs on KCOP Channel 13. The website for the program promises an expert with a "black belt in shopping" but the bottom line is that Mendelson features only companies that paid to be on the air.
Mendelson, 58, told me he took a certain pride in being a survivor and striking out as an independent operator, after years on local TV. But he acknowledged he wouldn't have plotted his career this way.
"I didn't want to do this. I was very happy in the news business," he said. "I loved my job. I had a following. It broke my heart to leave. But I had to eat and I was too young to retire. I had to do something."
Mendelson sees himself as a pawn in a much larger chess match. Back in the early 1980s, so many TV professionals were doing business reporting that they formed the Economic News Broadcasters Assn.
Mendelson served as president in 1981, when the group had 237 members. But the organization died before the end of the decade, as stations laid off business and consumer reporters and other beat journalists in droves. "The concept of specialist reporters just died," he said.
But surely such a fate couldn't have also befallen the man once known in these parts as "The Troubleshooter." You may recall how Judd McIlvain of KTTV and KCBS would descend on malefactors, hidden-camera style, demanding repairs on junky cars, refunds for bad merchandise and the like.
It is foolish to criticize Alan's show as deceptive.
Even though it's called "Alan's Best Buys", even the dimmest of viewers should be able to tell within moments that it's simply an infomercial to advertise products and services for local merchants. The show doesn't even have commercials, so it should be obvious to the viewer that the money is coming from the businesses being profiled. If anything, Alan's model is more honest than the countless "advertorials" we see nowadays on sites like Yahoo, which run paid pieces to promote businesses under the guise of real news.
So I have no issue with that, and you shouldn't, either. Alan aged out of viability as a TV reporter, which forced him to reinvent itself. That's showbiz. Even highly respected DJ Rick Dees, who basically put Los Angeles' KIIS-FM on the map, is having a hard time finding work in his later years.
I don't want to get much into discussing the situation between Alan and his son, but if I can offer a little advice to Alan, it's to have an open dialogue with him (in private), and come up with a payment plan which you can stick to. Alan, I believe your son is mostly upset that you have seemingly made little effort to pay him anything recently, yet he sees you're wasting money gambling on -EV games, so he feels that you're putting -EV casino games over him. You should stop gambling (at least until this is rectified), and then come up with some sort of reasonable plan to pay him. If you really cannot afford to keep the business afloat these days, perhaps it's time to shut it down, and live on your pension and social security. At least you have those. I think that all he's looking for is a commitment you can stick to, even if it's for a lot less money than originally planned, and even if the $1000/week payments stop going forward. That's what I got from reading his messages.
I will say that it's not your responsibility anymore to support your adult children, especially if you are having a hard time yourself. However, you should keep any promises you made to them, and if you can't afford to do that, then talk to them and come to some compromise.
My son is only 7 years old. It will be a long time until I have to deal with adult-to-adult issues with him, but it would break my heart if my relationship with him deteriorated like this in my later years. You only have two children, and those are the only two children you'll ever have. While that doesn't mean they should take advantage of you, if some of the situation here is also your fault, you should do your best to come to terms. That's more important than gambling or anything else.
I disagree with the folks that tell Alan to stop gambling because of what his son said.
Now I didnt get to read that stuff....but since when is a job salary also an entitlement?
is there a verbalor written contract that Alan is breaking Jobs in the real work can end in the blink of an eye."at will" ..and people can leave their jobs " at will".
So what is the big deal. A young adult needs to find income on his own? Cry me a river. Did i miss something..is he hanicapped? Or is he able bodied and can go off on his own and earn a living.
If his dad wants to piss away his money....that not any of his business...as long as he can afford to do so. When I was a kid i got an "alllowance" for doing minor chores but there came a time when it stopped and I never complained that my dad needed to keep it up...as happens with most able bodied children.
if alan is guilty of anything its not making his boy stand on his own 2 feet earlier....and cut off the excessive by for the small amount of work. It seems his son has an expectation that the payday would never end
The turn this thread has taken in the last 24 hours is crazy. Show just how looney tune this site is. A guy comes here trashing Alan, who is his father, over business and professional issues. Goes as far as to make statements referencing Alan's gambling addiction, which isn't anything new to most of us. And then they kiss and make up and worst of all, Alan's son deletes all his posts and everything he said. That in itself is pretty sleezy.
I have deleted things myself, when after a bit of time, I thought better of it several times. Sometimes things I said about my play and a couple hours later when I read it, I say, "oh I can't say that, it is too identifying". Other times it hasn't been about my play, but maybe I just said something nasty that I regret. But to delete numerous posts, with the charges that Alan's son made is crazy. It changes the conversation. Shouldn't be allowed. I guess the way around that is to quote everything so there is a record.
Thanks kewlj. I took your suggestion and deleted my comments as well.
You should delete all your comments that say I'm anti AP because they're just not true.
I'm not anti AP but I am anti unsubstantiated claims such as plays worth $500 an hour or counting two tables. Of course you clarified what counting two tables really means so there is nothing to discuss any further.
I'm also not anti YOU. Though I must admit you seem to have a lot of enemies and I can understand how you might list a lot of people as anti YOU.
The discussion about your EV-whatever was not anti YOU either. I just didn't understand how you could change the definition of EXPECTED Value after the play was made. But now that I understand that you did alter the definition that discussion is over as well.
So I can't think of anything else that might make me anti YOU and I certainly can't be anti AP when I myself attempt to have an advantage at craps and I have even played 100%+ VP at Red Rock even if it was just at the 25 cents level.
So please delete those anti YOU and anti AP comments because they're just not true.
You know I am not the least bit surprised Alan. That is just another act of a dishonest person. You seem to re-affirm that is who you are almost everyday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Not to mention it shows a total lack of respect for Dan Druff and his site as it leaves big gaps in the discussion.
You have no fucking idea what you are talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by LarryS
It's funny you would say that I have a lack of respect for Dan because I criticized Dan for letting certain posters make anti Gay comments as well as anti Jewish comments. The anti Gay comments were not directed at me you Bozo.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJYou know I am not the least bit surprised Alan. That is just another act of a dishonest person. You seem to re-affirm that is who you are almost everyday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Not to mention it shows a total lack of respect for Dan Druff and his site as it leaves big gaps in the discussion.
Preach It Brother... Amen!Quote:
Originally Posted by SLaPiNFuNKQuote:
Originally Posted by LarryS
I don't know you and you don't know me. If you know Alan that is your problem...
When someone hires you for a job and says they will pay you something are you expected to be paid for the work or not? I stand on my own two feet just fine thank you... However when someone says they will pay me for a job / service I expect to be paid for it. I have forgiven much of the debt by reducing my rate for the shows produced I was not paid for. I still have yet to be paid that lesser amount and if I ever will who knows... Even though Alan is my father I expect to be paid especially since the money has already been collected...
See this is how it works...
Each client pays - X
X becomes a total amount of Y
Part of Y goes to Z
Part of Y goes to A
Part of Y goes to B
Well, Y went to Z and A, but it never made it to B even though the amount of Y was satisfied... Y may not have been satisfied on time by the clients who pay X, but that doesn't mean I should not ever be paid or still be waiting over a year.
With current "work" where I am told I would get a certain amount, I still do not get it.... How long would you continue to do work?
Well... I've only continued to do work for him because he is my father. That is the nicest way I will put it.
With the amount this has grown to over a year we are pushing the amount of a $10 royal.
Alan may say it's "Part Time" work... What he leaves seems to forget is:
- Editing which he is not there for: Anywhere from 4-8 hours. Not including rendering time and making sure full upload of the 30GB file is completed successfully.
- Being there to take his calls to hear him bitch about this client didn't pay and this client didn't pay. Crazy ideas about this or that kind of like the whole one dice shows X whats the probability of the other dice showing X as well... The exact same as that but in relation to the business.
- While I stopped "filming" with him... He always expected me to be available any day to go do a shoot. While the shoot may only take a half hour or so... We would sometimes spend an hour or two in the car each way getting there (my car)((in all fairness he has offered his car, but its a deathtrap... 300K miles on it now, suspension bushings are all worn, horribly harsh seats and ride, it is scary)).
- The daily rate of what he would pay someone else to do the same work... Even if I just work for 2 days is GREATER THAN what he is paying me... Yet he always threatens to hire someone else... That is fine if he wants to do it. If he can't afford to pay me how is he going to pay someone else?
- I am a partner in the business the way things were originally setup. Yet I have not been paid my set share per show.
You don't know the entire story and situation so it is best you just STFU and stay out of it. I'm fine dropping this and moving on. But if you or Alan are going to say something I'll speak my mind.
I don't have it wrong and if Alan is going to say something I'll be glad counter what he claims.
Lets just say... When I purchased my house they told me they were not going to look at my income from the TV show... I was like, why its significant... That is when I found out that I made 20% of what I was supposed to from the work I performed.
Go play poker in a casino and get pushed 20% of the pot you won... Do that for over a year... See how you feel.
I think the anti homosexual comments were directed at you. The anti Jewish comments aren't directed at you but if someone called you a Meiser it is funny because it actually has both meanings. I think they call you a shyster which is funny because it can be derogatory towards Jewish People or Lawyers. Mrs V isn't a real Lawyer but he could be a Shyster.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan MendelsonIt's funny you would say that I have a lack of respect for Dan because I criticized Dan for letting certain posters make anti Gay comments as well as anti Jewish comments. The anti Gay comments were not directed at me you Bozo.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJYou know I am not the least bit surprised Alan. That is just another act of a dishonest person. You seem to re-affirm that is who you are almost everyday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Not to mention it shows a total lack of respect for Dan Druff and his site as it leaves big gaps in the discussion.
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Originally Posted by SLaPiNFuNK
HONOR THY FATHER
5th Commandment of the Ten Commandments
it doesn't say Honor Thy Father unless he messes up
I will have no other comment after this post. I don't really care who criticizes it or who bashes me. I stand by it.
If alan is feeding his pension money into the business he couldn't personally be in that bad of shape financially. It looks to me like revenue fell way off. Should he have to pay his son out of his pension? Does Alan really need the business? It looks to me like a renegotiation or just shut the business down, live off SS and pension, and hang out in the casinos everyday like so many retirees do.
LOL -- "Opinion proclamations" comprise the bulk of Larry's posts. The less data he has, the more he works to provide a comprehensive opinion covering what he doesn't know. It's known, in the business, as the LarryS Law of Inverse Knowledge: the less you know, the more you should say about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLaPiNFuNKYou have no fucking idea what you are talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by LarryS
Actually, it enhances LarryS's standing as a gambling expert. He rarely has much to say about gambling or Las Vegas, so he must know a boatload.
LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by redietzLOL -- "Opinion proclamations" comprise the bulk of Larry's posts. The less data he has, the more he works to provide a comprehensive opinion covering what he doesn't know. It's known, in the business, as the LarryS Law of Inverse Knowledge: the less you know, the more you should say about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLaPiNFuNKYou have no fucking idea what you are talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by LarryS
Actually, it enhances LarryS's standing as a gambling expert. He rarely has much to say about gambling or Las Vegas, so he must know a boatload.
The LarryS Law of Inverse Knowledge: the less you know, the more you should say about it.
Well said
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These Forums continue to boggle/entertain me. People getting a new Kidney and Pancreas to avoid Death. These People on these Forums claim no God exists but will do anything to avoid Hell's Fire for another 10 years or so. Gamblers who look at Porn and Smoke Weed telling others how to live by the 10 Commandments. Citizens living the Easy Life but crying all day long how they don't agree with whoever is running the Country like their opinion actually matter. Homosexuals who talk to God but it must not be Jesus, Yahweh or Allah because those Gods will have nothing to do with that type of lifestyle. However if you research it, you have about 52 other Gods that do condone Homosexual Behavior. People claiming to be Jewish but no nothing about Judaism nor go to a Synagogue and live a more Gentile or Philistine life compared to the Gentiles or Philistines.
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Originally Posted by kewlJYou know I am not the least bit surprised Alan. That is just another act of a dishonest person. You seem to re-affirm that is who you are almost everyday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Not to mention it shows a total lack of respect for Dan Druff and his site as it leaves big gaps in the discussion.
I've never deleted any post. And I've made some idiotic ones. I agree with kewlJ on this.
I did not read every Slap post at the time, having other stuff to do, and I'm sorry I did not. They were important for framing many discussions on this forum. If people arguing for stop losses, win goals, and other voodoo wind up owing markers for video poker and driving RVs cross-country while avoiding Las Vegas, that suggests much regarding the efficacy of their recommendations.
More important, erasing posts is a big clue that they don't want to handle reality and its consequences. I would submit that if you actively try to erase what's been said on a screen, you probably also do a lot of erasing of reality in your mind.
People who win gambling embrace reality. You can't edit your memory or your reportage of events because it makes you more comfortable. You're cheating yourself of the real and its lessons.
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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
This would be ridiculous. Whether someone is anti-AP is up to the people reading to decide, not the author post hoc. Mr. Mendelson ran out in the middle of the night to debunk counting two tables. In a decade, Mr. Mendelson never consulted (or never reported consulting) math professionals regarding the effects of win goals, stop losses, and Argentino's voodoo. The latter didn't require any more energy than photographing tables in the middle of the night. So yes, that's anti-AP. It's not only anti-AP, it's pro-voodoo. It's irresponsible.
Editing out the reality of this blowup, while reputationally convenient, warps the debate about how to properly gamble.
Sorry redietz but for the umteenth time Rob was very upfront that his special plays were at a mathematical disadvantagr, so no consultation with any math expert was needed.
And I believe in stop losses and rising win goals and you're not going to convince me otherwise until you show me a +EV machine that spits out money like an ATM.
I doubt you even know what a rising win goal is (also known as a rising stop loss) because if you did you would never object to it.
If you have an advantage and you come up with some artificial reason to quit, then you’d be legitimately retarded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
The logic works quite easily — would you ever quit if you were guaranteed to win $5 every spin? Unless you’re retarded, the answer should be “no”. Would you quit if you were guaranteed to win $1 every spin? What about $0.50 a spin? Again, if you’re not retarded, the answer should still be “no”.
Now what if you weren’t guaranteed $0.50 a spin, but rather, half the time you win $2 and half the time you lose $1? It’s still worth $0.50/spin, but it’s not guaranteed. Unless you’re retarded and/or have an incredibly tiny bankroll (like less than $20 probably), your answer to whether or not you’d ever quit should be a “no”.
Continue on with the logic and you’ll end up in the situation where APs play.
Of course, this is all kind of well known since, for the most part, APs aren’t retarded. I know some (somehow) who aren’t too bright and think stop losses or win goals are good, as if hitting a RF at the beginning of a session is going to make them lose going forward or something stupid. But that’s not the norm.
On the other hand, we have someone here (Alan), who it appears isn’t the greatest gambler. He hasn’t had a winning year (self proclaimed) even though he’s hit a few $100k royals AND has an advantage (his words) at craps....yet still can’t win. Is he cooking the books to get out of paying taxes on his winnings? Is he not smart enough how to make money with a supposed advantage? Or maybe, just maybe, he should let those who know what they’re talking about to talk. When the discussion comes up about reporting, we’ll let him tell us how it’s done, since he’s an expert in that — actually, in lieu of some recent posts, maybe he sucks shit at that, too.
LarryS., you missed yesterday's super bizarre episode of "Family Feud" featuring the Mendelsons.
As both participants have wisely deleted their posts you will not be able to view the carnage for yourself: I'll summarize.
Alan's son Jason claims Alan owes him a shit load of money and won't pay him; says he was promised $1000 per week to help do editing for alansbestbuys.
Alan says he's sorry, he can't pay what he promised as the business is doing very poorly; he admits he lied to his son about the viability and health of the business: he didn't want his son to know it is failing.
The thread veered into the Twilight Zone when Jason started berating his sire for his gambling activities / addiction.
Lots of emotion, angst, shame, followed by a "kiss and make up" then a mutual deleting of their respective posts.
'Twas a tragi-comical view through the glory hole in the Mendelson household.
For me, the takeaway is this: If you are full of shit don't be surprised if people tell you that you stink.
Some of this stuff is just goddamn silly. As if there haven't been a thousand, nay 10,000 people, misapplying a little jargon and a few concepts from the stock market to gambling, and then explaining why they have to be appropriate and they assuredly work. And the kicker? They do it with a little bit of a condescending tone, because god knows, they own stocks. LOL. It's just so...I'm trying to come up with something besides RS's "retarded." Maybe we need new words for the 1%ers who think they know everything. "Hubristards?" How about hubristards? You know, their golden halos are stuck so firmly on their skulls that the blood flow to the cerebral cortex is cut off....
maybehe went to the john patrick school of business book keeping where there is a blurred line between business funds and gambling funds..leading to a failed business.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
And then there is a life lesson.....if you lend someone money and they dont pay, and then you lendf someone money and they still dont pay, and then you lend someone more money and they still dont pay.......you have to blame yourself at some point. You needed to mitigate your damages.
And the same goes for services for which you dont get paid.
you enter into a business agreement with a gambling addict who claims he never had a winning year.....so a perpetual gambling loser....and then you cry that you didnt get money. ....really??
surprise surprise surprise.......you are indeed the modern day Gomer Pyle
Both in the last year, since I encountered Alan and particularly in the last 36 hours, I too have wondered why Alan is still "fighting" to keep his business open. Actually, I thought it closed last fall at the end of the redietz package discussion....that's what Alan told us. I guess that was just a convenient "mis-truth". :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
By Alan's own admission, this kind of business has become obsolete. Isn't trying to make this kind of business a go, in this day and age, about the same as trying to make a VCR video rental company a go in 2018? :confused: "Hey let's run down to BlockBuster and pick up a video" ;)
It is really non of my business, so I am not advising Alan, but geez. Hopefully he has a decent pension from a career as a legit journalist, which ended a while ago and with the modest amount that SS pays, can live at least a somewhat decent retirement.
As I watch old guys retire with nothing to keep them active and then watch them die, maybe Alan just wants to keep busy. People ask me when I am going to retire. I have been semi-retired for so many years I don't know how to answer them. It gets me out of the house and keeps me out of the casinos. But nothing can keep me from the horses.
I'm sure alan wanted to make a good income from the business, both because "Hell, you can never have TOO MUCH money," and also to prove to the TV network that canned him that he was still relevant, still in the game.
So keeping busy is not the issue here, the issue is to what degree have his casino losses and the time he spent in casinos affected his ability to run his business and to speak truthfully to his son about it?
He says that technology has made his business obsolete, and while that may be true it has no bearing on his bald-faced lying to his son about his failure.
Ironically or maybe not ironically the management team that ousted all of us over-50 year olds lost their jobs years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
I'm still doing commercial voiceover work for the CBS radio stations.
You do have a voice made for radio and television.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan MendelsonIronically or maybe not ironically the management team that ousted all of us over-50 year olds lost their jobs years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
I'm still doing commercial voiceover work for the CBS radio stations.
Thanks mickeycrimm.
THINGS ARE SOOO SOOO SIMILARQuote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
Patrick had ice cream stores and they all went under because of "the economy"
Alan has a business that is failing , not due to his lack of attention to it, or mingling of business funds with gambling funds....nope..as with patrick its external factors that there is no control over.
Didint allan teach his son not to get into business ventures with gamblers....especially gamblers that claim they never have a winning year.
If its true that alan was giving his son a sweetheart deal for just working 2 days a month ...then he just needs to walk away and consider things are even since he was overpaid for a period of time. Lesson learned about getting into bed with losing gamblers....even if they are your father.
But if it wasnt a sweetheart deal and the son earned every penny...then the solution is simple......for a period of time..instead of throwing 200-500 in a craps table...he throws that money in an envelope and mails it to his son. Ever week.
So if the money is really owed, then alan has to decide fif the craps tables take precedence over his financial obligations
And if the sweetheart deal was for real as alan described....then both sides can walk away as things tend to even out in life.
simple
THINGS ARE SOOO SOOO SIMILARQuote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
Patrick had ice cream stores and they all went under because of "the economy"
Alan has a business that is failing , not due to his lack of attention to it, or mingling of business funds with gambling funds....nope..as with patrick its external factors that there is no control over.
Didint allan teach his son not to get into business ventures with gamblers....especially gamblers that claim they never have a winning year.
If its true that alan was giving his son a sweetheart deal for just working 2 days a month ...then he just needs to walk away and consider things are even since he was overpaid for a period of time. Lesson learned about getting into bed with losing gamblers....even if they are your father.
But if it wasnt a sweetheart deal and the son earned every penny...then the solution is simple......for a period of time..instead of throwing 200-500 in a craps table...he throws that money in an envelope and mails it to his son. Ever week.
So if the money is really owed, then alan has to decide if the craps tables take precedence over his financial obligations
And if the sweetheart deal was for real as alan described....then both sides can walk away as things tend to even out in life.
simple
It could also be that alan was using the business to help enrichen his son, i.e. the "next generation," sort of an advance on his inheritance.
I do that with my son: I help him out financially because I can easily afford to and, more importantly, I both want to have a chance to watch him and his family enjoy it as well as know he is not just waitng for me to die so he finally gets a pay day.
yeah exactly , if he had a sweetheart deal for whatever reason then just walk away and stfuQuote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
However if alan is grossly under-exaggerating with his 2 days a month claim.....then all bets are off...pay the man.
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Originally Posted by LarrySyeah exactly , if he had a sweetheart deal for whatever reason then just walk away and stfuQuote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
However if alan is grossly under-exaggerating with his 2 days a month claim.....then all bets are off...pay the man.
The son said that, no matter the length of time he spends at the job, getting somebody else to do the job competently would cost more. If somebody has the skill to do something in two days, but his price is the same or lower than market value, then I guess you should pay him market value. I remember my friend, whose father and older brother were welders and who trained him since he was about 12, breaking into welding. Well, he could blow through stuff much faster than the average welder, but that garnered him no love from co-workers and the union, so he learned to put things on cruise. Maybe the son is like my friend -- he's good at what he does.
well according to alan..its 2 hours a month.
take it from there if its true. what tv technical job gets paid 4k for 2 hours work. Didnt alan say it was 1k per week? Sounds like a cushy no show job that ended. if alan is telling the truth.
So either alan is a liar or the son is ungrateful ......we may never know the truth since its not as obvious as 18 yos in a row.
Why’s it matter how long the job takes? Exception might be if Jason tricked Alan into an agreement where Jason would be getting paid far more than he should be (like if the work is worth $200/week and Jason said it’s worth $1,500 but I’ll do it for $1k). Granted, it might get a little tricky if there is no work for Jason to do because Alan’s company is failing and has no commercials or whatever to air.
I assume there was some sort of an agreement, EG: “I’ll pay you $1k/week to do X job.” According to this thread, that agreement hasn’t been fulfilled.
he doesnt have to trick anyone
it could have been a caring father wanting to stuff some money in the shirt pocket of his son when he came to visit(symbolically).... or to shield mioney from the tax man or from alimony. It doesnt have to be a trick
Not likely, as in every divorce decree I've seen the payor has to pay out the same fixed amount every month until the duration expires or the payee remarries.Quote:
Originally Posted by LarryS
Paying money to his son from the business may show he has less available income, but since the order was entered previously that is irrelevant.
I'm glad you're all fascinated by this. Here are the details.
My show is on every week. For about ten years we did a different show tape every week. Jason was paid for each weekly tape.
At the end of 2017 we changed our format. We produced one show tape that ran for 13 weeks. It was only fair, as I saw it, that Jason should not be penalized for less work. So I agreed to continue his full pay even though he only worked a couple days each quarter. (Not each month, each quarter.)
What I didn't figure on was the drop in business.
Does that end the discussion?
In that case, I think it's somewhat fair or understandable to not pay him, given those circumstances. The key word is somewhat, since it's kind of a hairy situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
RS__ I still want to pay him. If business picks up I will resume paying. And hopefully make up what wasn't paid.
Business sucks now. I'm dealing with advertisers who I have a 10-12 year history with who are facing big problems.
recap:
So Alan's son comes on telling us all what we already knew, that Alan has a gambling problem that interferes with him paying his bills and financial obligations and his personal relationships with family members, as well as likely the root cause of several failed marriages and other relationships with women. This is also the root cause of Alan's bitterness and animosity towards AP's. I want to repeat....an immediate family member....his son made these comments.
So Alan and his son have some private discussions (as they should) in which new financial promises where made that at least temporarily appease the son and they formulate a grand plan to save Alan's failed business. And let's face it, Alan's business is no longer relevant. I mean this is like coming up with a plan to save someone's 8-track audio tape business, or a VCS video tape rental business.
But anyway, Alan's son is at least temporarily appeased by this new round of financial promises and either as a sign of good will or as a condition of this new promised agreement, deletes all his posts telling of Alan's gambling addiction and resulting financial woes.
In very predictable fashion, as he always does, Alan returns, posting as if non of this occurred. Completely ignoring the fact that a family member, came here and spilled the beans of his gambling addiction, which most of us with any kind of brain already knew. The only small part that he acknowledged is that the business failed. But he has a new grand plan to make his "8-track" business (and himself) relevant again.
This is called DENIAL folks. And it is a major component of every addict's story and life. Alan I am really wishing you the best, but that can't happen until you acknowledge the truth and take responsibility. Until then you are just another addict, thinking he is fooling everyone.
Kewlj that's a nice story but he didn't say those things. Allow me to say something: you're an asshole.
I think most of you missed the point. The son was willing to take less money or change the payment structure. The son was pissed off that he was being ignored and his phone calls were unanswered and the text messages were not being responded to. The son was also pissed off that the father moved to Vegas to gamble instead of investing in the family and the son was pissed off that his dad didn't even make an effort during his first Fathers Day. Typical Broken American Family Values where it is all about me and not the family. I don't know any employee that would be happy if their employer didn't answer the phone or questions or respond to the employees questions. Especially when the employer isn't sending the paychecks but he is on a stupid internet forum preaching to everyone how he beats craps and has a rising win strategy to crush the Casino. Yo, Yo, Yo... 11... good field good come and that is 18 in a fucking row!
That's the way I read it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
#DENIAL
#dying soon and doesn't give a fuck... just going to "enjoy" retirement.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxPenThat's the way I read it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
#DENIAL
Oh and one more thing. Not only did Alan insist that the son delete his posts referencing Alan's gambling addiction, but the son's posts that were quoted by several other members are now missing. That means that Alan lobbied Dan Druff to remove those quoted comments and Dan Druff complied.
Shame on you Dan Druff! You aren't helping Alan by doing that, you are enabling him. Nor is removing quoted posts the action of an honest forum administrator.
Sorry kewlj. Wrong again.
Jason deleted his own posts and I never spoke to Dan.
Well where are Jason's posts that were quoted by other members?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
I suppose Dan could have removed those quoted posts on your behalf without you asking. I personally don't believe that. And if that were the case it is still just as dishonest a move by a forum administrator. No wonder this forum remains what it is!
Well kewlj it appears that in addition to your fight with me and with the Wizard, you now have another issue with Dan. You have a lot of issues with lots of people, don't you?
I mean look at posts #204 and #205.
#204 is the initial post by your son Jason, outlining your gambling addiction and financial problems because of it.
#205 is a response by redietz in which he quoted the above post. That quote has been removed which makes redietz's response almost not relevant.
There are other similar examples that occurred throughout Sunday. Any administrator that would allow this and participate in doing so, is just dishonest.
Dan removed your antisemitic comments, kewlj.
And the Wizard removed you. LOL
Interesting similarity. A forum owner/administrator, taking actions to protect a "friend" or someone they hold special. One an administrator does this they have thrown away all objectivity and credibility. Let's see if Dan wants to continue along wizard's route and ban me?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
I just thought I'd repeat this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Yeah, Dan removes things because YOU beg and demand that he does. You have done so on numerous occasions. Here is one such occasion and this as you can see by the wording was you second go round at bullying him in this particular case.
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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
You are bullying Dan almost exactly the way QFIT bullied Shackleford. It wouldn't surprise me the least bit if your bullying of Dan didn't include the same threats of legal action or reporting to such and such an oversight group, just as QFIT did with Wizard. Must be from the 'bully internet forum administrator's page' of the Bullying playbook. :rolleyes:
And now I am off to work to take some money from the casinos. Probably some of the money you frequently donate. Hey why don't we save us both some time and effort and you can just pay me directly? ;) Cash please....in lieu of recent information brought to light (and since covered up) your credit (and credibility) is no good with me. :rolleyes:
Kewlj you're not worth responding to anymore. You overlooked or ignored my comment about the hate mongers and Gays.
I'm now going to ignore you. Have a nice life.
Kew has so many self-inflicted issues it's beyond embarrassing for him. All he has left are his lies about "making money" playing bj. My guess is he picked that game to lie about because he can have fantasies about rubbing the guy's thigh next to him while dishing out whoppers.
Another angry, bitter, OLD degenerate gambling addict heard from, including all his homophobic fantasies. Wonder why welfare Rob spends so much time obsessing with gay fantasies? Yeah....I wonder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Rob, you are cousin Eddie, parked in someone's driveway stealing electricity. You are an uglier version of cousin Eddie! :rolleyes:
Repeating stuff is always helpful.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan MendelsonI just thought I'd repeat this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
I was gonna keep this out of the public domain, but Mr. Mendelson's post above motivated me to remind everyone that Mr. Mendelson's previous and brief wife/girlfriend/prom-date left him suddenly and surprisingly because she said she overheard him having loan issues on the phone with someone she interpreted as a loan shark or something. And she felt he was getting reminders regarding his markers and was scared. So her fears of Guido(s) culminated in her tossing him out and ending the relationship abruptly.
People may have forgotten about this, as it hasn't been mentioned, either out of respect for Mr. Mendelson or because folks just didn't connect the dots. But, in lieu of Mr. Mendelson's love of reminders, I thought a helpful reminder was called for.
In light of information gleaned this last week, I'd say her credibility just went up about 300%. Hopefully Slap can contact her, if she's still alive and available, and get the necessary details. Maybe this stuff goes back a little bit further than what's been admitted.
Or maybe those posts regarding the last missus have also been removed.
WTF kj...what is wrong with you. There are valid reasons an admin could have removed those posts....and for one its that its off topic. Secondly the posts were not material to anything on this thread so when the original poster deleted......its obvious the intent was to remove hurtful words and maybe even lies. Again it wasnt material to this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Its not like there was a thread about AP winnings, and an AP claimed he won 250k in one day at BJ and it was proven to be a lie, so he deletes it...yet people commented on it and quoted it. Well then thats material and I am sure dan would have kept those quotes up.
But a heated family dispute does not belong on this thread. Both parties agreed and deleted......so dan went along with their wishes out of respect for the family good.
Its not hard to understand, I would have loved to read all the fun juicey stuff since I missed ,tbut I am not crying that I needed to read it.
and then you go on and on about some perceived bullying. . First you would have to establish that Alan is in a position of strength over Dan ...because thats how bullys operate. But dan can boot alan off this site in a heartbeat. So where does alan hold the big stick in this case over dan? Be serious. You are just throwing stuff against the wall and hoping something sticks.
Redietz, Janet had surgery last week to remove a growth on her brain. She continues to fight the cancers.
We are still close. When I was in the hospital earlier this year she drove me around and did some grocery shopping and fixed some meals too.
Are you getting your kicks with these personal attacks? Do I have to block you in addition to monet, maxpen, and kewlj? It seems you have nothing positive to contribute.
Although I have been around this forum for a long time, I am somewhat of a novice when it comes to this stuff. I have only participated in one other forum-the Bloodhorse-and have all of two posts there.
I am amazed at the joy that people take in the problems of others and in trying to belittle others rather than simply have a discussion about something on which they disagree. Alan has taken an awful lot of crap here, partly because he is open about his life. But the joy in trying to bring him down is baffling to me.
There is some truth to some of what you say LarryS. The threads in question were off topic of the thread, as about 90% of posts are on this forum. And I will grant you that Alan's son intent was to embarrass his father.Quote:
Originally Posted by LarrySWTF kj...what is wrong with you. There are valid reasons an admin could have removed those posts....and for one its that its off topic. Secondly the posts were not material to anything on this thread so when the original poster deleted......its obvious the intent was to remove hurtful words and maybe even lies. Again it wasnt material to this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Its not like there was a thread about AP winnings, and an AP claimed he won 250k in one day at BJ and it was proven to be a lie, so he deletes it...yet people commented on it and quoted it. Well then thats material and I am sure dan would have kept those quotes up.
But a heated family dispute does not belong on this thread. Both parties agreed and deleted......so dan went along with their wishes out of respect for the family good.
Its not hard to understand, I would have loved to read all the fun juicey stuff since I missed ,tbut I am not crying that I needed to read it.
and then you go on and on about some perceived bullying. . First you would have to establish that Alan is in a position of strength over Dan ...because thats how bullys operate. But dan can boot alan off this site in a heartbeat. So where does alan hold the big stick in this case over dan? Be serious. You are just throwing stuff against the wall and hoping something sticks.
But there is also a very good reason why those posts should remain. Alan leads an anti-AP group on this site. Even Dan has acknowledged this.
And many of us have wondered why such anger from this group. Well this discussion answered some of that....directly from a family member who would know.
The majority of posts on this site are off topic.
I don't have a problem with Mr. Mendelson and his son pulling their posts. I do have a problem with Dan pulling the embedded quote from my post without telling me he did it. I didn't say the offending stuff. The offending stuff wasn't anti-Semitic or homophobic. I just responded to the post and embedded the post I was talking about.
Clearly Dan has decided not all forum members are created equal.
Dipping into somebody's writing and extracting a quotation they were referencing is censorship. There's no other way to put it. Dipping into somebody's writing and extracting a quotation they were referencing without telling them you did it is sneaky censorship.
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Originally Posted by redietz
maybe justmaybe not all forum SITUATIONS are created equal. Maybe he takes each situation on an individual basis.
I forgot about all that. It comes full circle and makes sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzRepeating stuff is always helpful.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan MendelsonI just thought I'd repeat this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
I was gonna keep this out of the public domain, but Mr. Mendelson's post above motivated me to remind everyone that Mr. Mendelson's previous and brief wife/girlfriend/prom-date left him suddenly and surprisingly because she said she overheard him having loan issues on the phone with someone she interpreted as a loan shark or something. And she felt he was getting reminders regarding his markers and was scared. So her fears of Guido(s) culminated in her tossing him out and ending the relationship abruptly.
People may have forgotten about this, as it hasn't been mentioned, either out of respect for Mr. Mendelson or because folks just didn't connect the dots. But, in lieu of Mr. Mendelson's love of reminders, I thought a helpful reminder was called for.
In light of information gleaned this last week, I'd say her credibility just went up about 300%. Hopefully Slap can contact her, if she's still alive and available, and get the necessary details. Maybe this stuff goes back a little bit further than what's been admitted.
Or maybe those posts regarding the last missus have also been removed.
Let me refresh your collective memories. She overheard me saying to Jason "I need money for Tony." Tony was to be paid money for airtime for an Infomercial clientand I hadn't collected it yet from the client.
Tony as you all know by now is my media buyer and partner who, by the way, has Redietz's package. She thought Tony was a loan shark.
Her ex did do business with loan sharks. He, by the way, was a professional poker and blackjack player who must have thought he had an edge.
Really kids, what other conspiracy theory will you come up with next?
The anger comes from the APs...who, when faced with a little scrutiny, consistently respond with insulting tirades.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
You are not the only offender, but by far the worst offender...and that's what makes you such a tewl.
Coach let's face reality. It's only because I challenged kewlj's claim about counting two tables that he later conceded that his count was not complete and he would miss cards. Of course when you count at one table all cards are visible.
If kewlj says he doesn't need a 100% count to switch tables, i.e. moving to the table with the partial count, then more power to him.
I'm not a blackjack player but if he says only a partial count is needed who am I to argue?
By the way coach, that's the extent of my anti AP comments here. I'm afraid kewlj has extrapolated that one objection to mean I must oppose ALL strategies of APs.
He has extrapolated more than that...Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
tewlJ is mentally ill, no wonder he is a gambling forum pariah.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
I don't think he's crazy, just histrionic, overly dramatic, and insecure.