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How long until you guys stop "botching"?
And I am secure enough that I am ok with you thinking that too. Although we both know that you don't really believe that, it is just part of the Boz troll play that you now engage in.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
So happens I have met players, when I decide there is some benefit in doing so. I have met two members of the BJHoF several times now. I guess what you and even a couple other AP's are referring to is that I have no desire to meet up with and socialize with people from message boards, just to hang out and get drunk. I see no benefit to that and based on many, many instances of people on these message boards "flipping" from your friend one minute, to out to harm you in any way possible the next, I would say that has served me well.
Boz, you have proven yourself to be quite unstable. Your obsession with Wizard, his sex life, his personal issues, is unlike anything seen before on these forums, even with some of the really sick and obsessed people that participate on these forums. And now you have transferred some of that to me, because I chose to return to WoV. And your obsession with Tasha to boot. :confused: You are not alone. There is freddy that is almost your equal with obsessing over Wiz. There is Singer and now Mickey both bitter and angry now, who troll and say things they know are not true.
But for my money, because of your numerous obsessions, you may have risen to the top. Is your life THAT empty, Boz? You are a sad, sick dude Boz and from what I am told a welcher (bet) as well. You welched on a bet and just left that forum. That really says all anyone need know about you. Knowing that, none of this other shit is surprising.
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Originally Posted by The BozAnything is possible as long as the mob has control. They are after Squaw Valley Ski Resort outside Tahoe and will probably get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by monetlolQuote:
Originally Posted by quahaug
I seen Princeton decided to remove Woodrow Wilson's name.
Also... The Orange County Democratic Party officials are demanding the name of John Wayne to be removed from the airport due to his "racist" and "bigoted" statements.
How long before every John Wayne movie is banned??
Multiple TV series have had to pull old episodes that supposedly someone is “upset” over. Yet the highway near me has had “Fuck the Police” Spray painted on it where everyone can see for weeks now. I guess the city is afraid to cover it up.
Imagine going to work each day as a police officer knowing what a segment of the population thinks about you due to a few rouge officers.
Imagine if we judged a group or race by the actions of a very small percentage? Oh the outrage.
Like that old Hippy John Lennon said....imagine.
And wasn’t he banging a slant?
Until all police complaints become a matter of public record, it is literally impossible to assign a percentage to "rogue behaviors" or "rogue police."
https://medium.com/@OfcrACab/confess...p-bb14d17bc759
The above was a very thoughtfully written piece.
The year was 1975. I had just graduated high school and was driving from Pennsylvania down to Florida with my then-girlfriend. Along the way we decided to detour to Maxwell Air Force Base (she was an Air Force brat), so we cut through Georgia. While heading down a Georgia state highway (two lanes each side; not an interstate), I went around a curve in the road and came up on a huge drive-in theater and its big sign. In big block letters on the marquee were the titles of the movies playing: "Nigger Lover" and "Run, Nigger, Run."
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Originally Posted by kewlJAnd I am secure enough that I am ok with you thinking that too. Although we both know that you don't really believe that, it is just part of the Boz troll play that you now engage in.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
So happens I have met players, when I decide there is some benefit in doing so. I have met two members of the BJHoF several times now. I guess what you and even a couple other AP's are referring to is that I have no desire to meet up with and socialize with people from message boards, just to hang out and get drunk. I see no benefit to that and based on many, many instances of people on these message boards "flipping" from your friend one minute, to out to harm you in any way possible the next, I would say that has served me well.
Boz, you have proven yourself to be quite unstable. Your obsession with Wizard, his sex life, his personal issues, is unlike anything seen before on these forums, even with some of the really sick and obsessed people that participate on these forums. And now you have transferred some of that to me, because I chose to return to WoV. And your obsession with Tasha to boot. :confused: You are not alone. There is freddy that is almost your equal with obsessing over Wiz. There is Singer and now Mickey both bitter and angry now, who troll and say things they know are not true.
But for my money, because of your numerous obsessions, you may have risen to the top. Is your life THAT empty, Boz? You are a sad, sick dude Boz and from what I am told a welcher (bet) as well. You welched on a bet and just left that forum. That really says all anyone need know about you. Knowing that, none of this other shit is surprising.
No clue what you are talking about on the bet. Please post details or links to prove it. Otherwise it’s more BS from you. No one on these forums or in the world can say I fucked them on a debt or a bet. There is a well known member in WoV who owes me money from a bet. He offered to pay once and I said to hold off as we were going to meet in person. We never did and he never brought it up again, but neither did I push it. Dude I have an 845 Credit Score (provable) and take debts and money as seriously as anyone. People fuck people or businesses over far too easily and justify it. And you probably will bring up Trump.
As for Tasha, I don’t “follow her all over the net”. I have posted less than 10 times at GF in the past 2 years and actually agreed with her on something over there. On WoV, I really couldn’t say much there but everyone knew how I thought. But yea, I don’t like her and she annoys me. Should I ignore her like some had said? Maybe but I’m allowed to fuck with her and she is welcome to return the favor. But she is too stupid to make an argument. And I’m not a member of any other gambling or other forum I know she is a member of.
As for the Wizard, my issues go back way before you got back in his good graces. My last post that got me banned was long before he gave in to you. And I made it very clear how I felt about him. He’s a little, weak “man”, as you yourself have said many times. A few people know my issue with him off these forums and I let it build for a while and I let it out. No regrets or loss in my life over it.
Biggest troll, unstable and a miserable life? You obviously have no clue what my life is and what I do on a weekly basis. We are in what some call a pandemic. During it I have been in 8 states, visited multiple National and State Parks, hiked to wonderful mountain lakes, been on the water on both coasts and even was at a concert. But keep thinking whatever you want about me if it makes you feel better.
Nobody on these forums knows who the fuck you are, idiot. Who are the players from BJHoF you have met and can they vouch for you?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJAnd I am secure enough that I am ok with you thinking that too. Although we both know that you don't really believe that, it is just part of the Boz troll play that you now engage in.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
So happens I have met players, when I decide there is some benefit in doing so. I have met two members of the BJHoF several times now. I guess what you and even a couple other AP's are referring to is that I have no desire to meet up with and socialize with people from message boards, just to hang out and get drunk. I see no benefit to that and based on many, many instances of people on these message boards "flipping" from your friend one minute, to out to harm you in any way possible the next, I would say that has served me well.
Boz, you have proven yourself to be quite unstable. Your obsession with Wizard, his sex life, his personal issues, is unlike anything seen before on these forums, even with some of the really sick and obsessed people that participate on these forums. And now you have transferred some of that to me, because I chose to return to WoV. And your obsession with Tasha to boot. :confused: You are not alone. There is freddy that is almost your equal with obsessing over Wiz. There is Singer and now Mickey both bitter and angry now, who troll and say things they know are not true.
But for my money, because of your numerous obsessions, you may have risen to the top. Is your life THAT empty, Boz? You are a sad, sick dude Boz and from what I am told a welcher (bet) as well. You welched on a bet and just left that forum. That really says all anyone need know about you. Knowing that, none of this other shit is surprising.
I betcha the trolls are having a lot more real and actual fun. I mean, don't people work their whole lives, finally, so that they can sit on their fat asses, to watch the real and actual clowns go by?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
National Women's Soccer League
Kneel for your new masters, bitches. They demand obedience.
None of your business. My personal interactions are between me and the people I interact with. No one needs to vouch for me. I am not on trial.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
You have really turned into mickey mouse on this forum. Some have suggested that your heart attack is responsible for your metamorphosis from a reasonable person to the complete internet troll that you now are. I don't think that is it because the change was before your heart attack. I think Singer just kicked your ass so badly for years that you jumped at the chance to join him in trolling others. Whatever the reason, it is just really sad that this is who you now are.
Next thing you know Man Servant Crimm will be posing in RVs at the local RV dealer for us:DQuote:
Originally Posted by kewlJNone of your business. My personal interactions are between me and the people I interact with. No one needs to vouch for me. I am not on trial.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
You have really turned into mickey mouse on this forum. Some have suggested that your heart attack is responsible for your metamorphosis from a reasonable person to the complete internet troll that you now are. I don't think that is it because the change was before your heart attack. I think Singer just kicked your ass so badly for years that you jumped at the chance to join him in trolling others. Whatever the reason, it is just really sad that this is who you now are.
Mickey isn't that big of a troll. We had our words and he basically ignores me unless he wants to give an example as to why he doesnt 'share info'. I'm neutral on Mickey. Have some respect and a lot of what you say is true too.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJNone of your business. My personal interactions are between me and the people I interact with. No one needs to vouch for me. I am not on trial.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
You have really turned into mickey mouse on this forum. Some have suggested that your heart attack is responsible for your metamorphosis from a reasonable person to the complete internet troll that you now are. I don't think that is it because the change was before your heart attack. I think Singer just kicked your ass so badly for years that you jumped at the chance to join him in trolling others. Whatever the reason, it is just really sad that this is who you now are.
However, dude you can't reference meeting/knowing HOFBJ (whatever?) players then refuse to drop their name if they have a nickname that you can reference w/o doxxing.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! I really hit a nerve again. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Face it, loser. YOU'RE A NOBODY. You're been living a lie. You don't know any BJ Hall of Famers or any other gamblers. You pick tomatoes in Mexico for a living. And you are lashing out because you've been caught.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJNone of your business. My personal interactions are between me and the people I interact with. No one needs to vouch for me. I am not on trial.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
You have really turned into mickey mouse on this forum. Some have suggested that your heart attack is responsible for your metamorphosis from a reasonable person to the complete internet troll that you now are. I don't think that is it because the change was before your heart attack. I think Singer just kicked your ass so badly for years that you jumped at the chance to join him in trolling others. Whatever the reason, it is just really sad that this is who you now are.
You could also figure out the bad ones by those not coming in to do their job when they were being held accountable. Atlanta wants to defund the police, maybe? Fire the fucks who didn't come into work when they're now being held accountable. Government employees aren't that bad, but when they're given so much power they damn well need to be accountable. What an entitled lot. It was about 10% who didn't show up in atlanta. Show them the door and get a new batch and work on that culture.Quote:
Until all police complaints become a matter of public record, it is literally impossible to assign a percentage to "rogue behaviors" or "rogue police."
!!!!!LOLOL!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxPenNext thing you know Man Servant Crimm will be posing in RVs at the local RV dealer for us:DQuote:
Originally Posted by kewlJNone of your business. My personal interactions are between me and the people I interact with. No one needs to vouch for me. I am not on trial.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
You have really turned into mickey mouse on this forum. Some have suggested that your heart attack is responsible for your metamorphosis from a reasonable person to the complete internet troll that you now are. I don't think that is it because the change was before your heart attack. I think Singer just kicked your ass so badly for years that you jumped at the chance to join him in trolling others. Whatever the reason, it is just really sad that this is who you now are.
Just proves how bitter you are Crimm. YOU made the choices you made to crawl into a bottle for 30 years and become a homeless hobo. And now you don't like where that has left you in your declining days so you lash out. YOU are Rob Singer all over again.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
It is the other side that demands more obedience. Obedience to the flag. The symbol. You got this one flipped. Not sure who is demanding anything from these women.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Accountinquestion, that’s why you don’t have a clue. These women are succumbing to the pressure from the PC police. They are succumbing to the pressure from the left-wing wackos who are trying to undermine everything America stands for.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionIt is the other side that demands more obedience. Obedience to the flag. The symbol. You got this one flipped. Not sure who is demanding anything from these women.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
It’s not about obedience to the flag. It’s about respect for the flag, which represents America, the greatest nation the world has ever known. A nation that led the world out of darkness. A nation that stands for freedom and led the world out of a practice that had gone on for thousands of years. Yes, America and it’s idelas is why slavery is no longer here today.
This is something you, Redietz, Darkoz, MWP, the pro sport’s kneelers and all your liberal goofballs will never understand because you have a very shallow view of history. You’ve been radicalized by the Left, like most people in America. It is what it is. What we’re seeing now is the end result of 50 years of liberal policies and a rewriting of history to fit the left’s nartivite.
And accountinquestion I don’t expect a simpleton like you to figure it out, so don’t try.
The rules demand adherence to conduct.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
"Please stand for our National Anthem" sounds like a polite request, not a demand...although the rules could demand that they stand, and then they must stand to be eligible to play.
Coach Belly, I just checked and that rule has been changed since the George Floyd incident. Soon the new rule will be people have to knee when the National Anthem is played. It’s just a matter of time. LolQuote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyThe rules demand adherence to conduct.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
"Please stand for our National Anthem" sounds like a polite request, not a demand...although the rules could demand that they stand, and then they must stand to be eligible to play.
At least Singer raised a hard-working daughter that he can bum off in his senior years. Only has to leave her alone in peace a few months out of the year to hit the open road in his camper. Pretty good deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJJust proves how bitter you are Crimm. YOU made the choices you made to crawl into a bottle for 30 years and become a homeless hobo. And now you don't like where that has left you in your declining days so you lash out. YOU are Rob Singer all over again.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Mickey just finally got his own apartment without a roommate after 60+ years. This proves the Man Servant never lives as good as the Master.
Yes, that was my understanding, they changed the rule that required the players to stand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob21
If not-standing has a negative financial impact on the owners, then they will probably change the rule again, requiring them to stand.
On the other hand, if the fans support kneeling over standing, then they'll require them to kneel.
Yes, it's a sad situation. One bad cop has caused all the sports leagues to change their policies.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyYes, that was my understanding, they changed the rule that required the players to stand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob21
If not-standing has a negative financial impact on the owners, then they will probably change the rule again, requiring them to stand.
On the other hand, if the fans support kneeling over standing, then they'll require them to kneel.
https://www.npr.org/sections/live-up...ational-anthem
I wonder how long it will be before the left makes standing while the national anthem is playing a crime. They are currently only using high pressure tactics to get people to kneel and do whatever to disrespect the flag. It's interesting how the general public is falling for all this like lemons.
AP max penis bars has it all figured out. Take out Crimm and Singer with the same rock. Then, put Singer's nose, and Crimm's hot air together in one irresistible bar. Rub it, watch it grow, and, then, nothing come out. Ha. I think that Pense can be the albino scammer-in-training who runs the Candy Shoppe. Destination, the Chocolate Factory. I guess, to keep things in line with the old fake real Bus, there will have to be a Bozo bar. Each Bozo bar comes with a candy tape measure wrapped up inside. Ha.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxPenAt least Singer raised a hard-working daughter that he can bum off in his senior years. Only has to leave her alone in peace a few months out of the year to hit the open road in his camper. Pretty good deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJJust proves how bitter you are Crimm. YOU made the choices you made to crawl into a bottle for 30 years and become a homeless hobo. And now you don't like where that has left you in your declining days so you lash out. YOU are Rob Singer all over again.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Mickey just finally got his own apartment without a roommate after 60+ years. This proves the Man Servant never lives as good as the Master.
Has it occurred to you, BOB21, that maybe kneeling during the anthem has nothing to do with the flag? It may have to do with the anthem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob21Yes, it's a sad situation. One bad cop has caused all the sports leagues to change their policies.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyYes, that was my understanding, they changed the rule that required the players to stand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob21
If not-standing has a negative financial impact on the owners, then they will probably change the rule again, requiring them to stand.
On the other hand, if the fans support kneeling over standing, then they'll require them to kneel.
https://www.npr.org/sections/live-up...ational-anthem
I wonder how long it will be before the left makes standing while the national anthem is playing a crime. They are currently only using high pressure tactics to get people to kneel and do whatever to disrespect the flag. It's interesting how the general public is falling for all this like lemons.
Kneeling during the anthem actually makes a lot of sense if you're black. If you don't know what I'm talking about, then I suggest you read the entire national anthem. I can't see why any black person would stand for it, given the third stanza. Really, no American should stand for that song. We should change the anthem. If people are changing the Mississippi flag, hell, the anthem is worse.
Now I have read that there is some debate about the third stanza, but the most common and obvious interpretation is pretty damned bad.
Absolutely no debate about the third stanza, it will always be George :p
Yes, I know what you’re referring to with regard to the national anthem and have read several articles about the controversy. It’s basically left wing wackos at it again, taking things out of context and running with it to fit their left-wing socialist agenda.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzHas it occurred to you, BOB21, that maybe kneeling during the anthem has nothing to do with the flag? It may have to do with the anthem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob21Yes, it's a sad situation. One bad cop has caused all the sports leagues to change their policies.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach belly
https://www.npr.org/sections/live-up...ational-anthem
I wonder how long it will be before the left makes standing while the national anthem is playing a crime. They are currently only using high pressure tactics to get people to kneel and do whatever to disrespect the flag. It's interesting how the general public is falling for all this like lemons.
Kneeling during the anthem actually makes a lot of sense if you're black. If you don't know what I'm talking about, then I suggest you read the entire national anthem. I can't see why any black person would stand for it, given the third stanza. Really, no American should stand for that song. We should change the anthem. If people are changing the Mississippi flag, hell, the anthem is worse.
Now I have read that there is some debate about the third stanza, but the most common and obvious interpretation is pretty damned bad.
I know your kind hates freedom, and wants to give it up to a left-wing government, who you guys worship.
Redietz, from reading your posts and articles I can tell you have a very shallow understanding of history. I mean you still don’t understand what America stands for and how it changed the world. As a refresher, America is why slavery for the most part doesn’t exists today in the world.
My question to you is why are you so in love with left-wing governments, when they have failed where ever they have been tried. It sounds like you are in love with the ideals of socialism, rather than the reality of it.
Lol Bob and his mental ill droning on about liberals then his typical "I know you're not smart" crap. So transparent Bob. You fool.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob21Accountinquestion, that’s why you don’t have a clue. These women are succumbing to the pressure from the PC police. They are succumbing to the pressure from the left-wing wackos who are trying to undermine everything America stands for.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionIt is the other side that demands more obedience. Obedience to the flag. The symbol. You got this one flipped. Not sure who is demanding anything from these women.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
It’s not about obedience to the flag. It’s about respect for the flag, which represents America, the greatest nation the world has ever known. A nation that led the world out of darkness. A nation that stands for freedom and led the world out of a practice that had gone on for thousands of years. Yes, America and it’s idelas is why slavery is no longer here today.
This is something you, Redietz, Darkoz, MWP, the pro sport’s kneelers and all your liberal goofballs will never understand because you have a very shallow view of history. You’ve been radicalized by the Left, like most people in America. It is what it is. What we’re seeing now is the end result of 50 years of liberal policies and a rewriting of history to fit the left’s nartivite.
And accountinquestion I don’t expect a simpleton like you to figure it out, so don’t try.
It is a symbol and therefore open to your interpretation of what it truly stands for. For me, it is what is behind it all that counts. This is why our interpretation of "freedom" is very different. It is also why I don't give a fuck of people burn the flag, or any or symbol, because that is not what is important. A symbol is an abstraction that can be changed and used to manipulate people such as yourself.
You don't get that. You don't stand up for your religion. You welched on a charity donation. Thats pretty epic. You're the worst on here. Literally.
These women are being no more manipulated than you were when you were raised to idolize the flag like a good little American boy. It is the same shit just different context. Don't be so simple.
Accountinquestion, you're not even smart enough to come up with original material. I call you a simpleton so you use the word simple back at me.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionLol Bob and his mental ill droning on about liberals then his typical "I know you're not smart" crap. So transparent Bob. You fool.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob21Accountinquestion, that’s why you don’t have a clue. These women are succumbing to the pressure from the PC police. They are succumbing to the pressure from the left-wing wackos who are trying to undermine everything America stands for.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
It’s not about obedience to the flag. It’s about respect for the flag, which represents America, the greatest nation the world has ever known. A nation that led the world out of darkness. A nation that stands for freedom and led the world out of a practice that had gone on for thousands of years. Yes, America and it’s idelas is why slavery is no longer here today.
This is something you, Redietz, Darkoz, MWP, the pro sport’s kneelers and all your liberal goofballs will never understand because you have a very shallow view of history. You’ve been radicalized by the Left, like most people in America. It is what it is. What we’re seeing now is the end result of 50 years of liberal policies and a rewriting of history to fit the left’s nartivite.
And accountinquestion I don’t expect a simpleton like you to figure it out, so don’t try.
It is a symbol and therefore open to your interpretation of what it truly stands for. For me, it is what is behind it all that counts. This is why our interpretation of "freedom" is very different. It is also why I don't give a fuck of people burn the flag, or any or symbol, because that is not what is important. A symbol is an abstraction that can be changed and used to manipulate people such as yourself.
You don't get that. You don't stand up for your religion. You welched on a charity donation. Thats pretty epic. You're the worst on here. Literally.
These women are being no more manipulated than you were when you were raised to idolize the flag like a good little American boy. It is the same shit just different context. Don't be so simple.
I never said they can't do what they want too. I just said they aren't smart enough to even know what they are doing when they are kneeling when the National Anthem is playing. They are being manipulated by the left. I guess some people like being pawns.
As far as you, you're not only stupid, but you're a liar. But that's a characteristic of a liberal, and you're pretty much a stereotype liberal, who thinks they have done something great by dating a Mexican girl. That's just arrogance, but I know that's how you liberals think.
And I've never welched on a charity donation. I said from the beginning I'd do it, and I will. How is doing something I say I'll do welching on something? Or that's right since you're a liar, truth doesn't matter to you. Btw, are you high right now, or just your normal stupid self?
Original material coming from Bob21, how ironic. Word liberal used 1000 times, dated a Mexican girl used over 100 times. Accountinquestion is a lot more creative, then your repetitive nonsensical gibberish.
Ozzy, sounds like you’re a liberal supporting another goofball liberal. This is another characteristic of liberals. They ban together, even when they don’t know what they are talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozzy
YEa, you didn't welch, you're just waiting 6 months to walk out to your car to get your credit card to pay online. That was the greatest excuse ever. Should have just lied and said you did it. I'll give you credit for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob21
I'd still love to know more about your wife. There is no way you dated successful educated woman. Mail-order wife. Thats why you went so crossed and totally misinterpreted what I said when I mentioned Trump has a hard time marrying American women. It is beyond obvious successful educated woman wouldn't want to listen to your repetitive blabbing. Probably can't teach your wife how to protect herself with a handgun because you're afraid she'd use it on herself just to escape her existence with you. lol. ouch. was that too far? hmm.
Not at all, far from being anywhere near left wing, just calling out your droned out repetitive garbage, you keep spewing, you sound like you have early onset dementia. You should seek help, before it's too late.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob21Ozzy, sounds like you’re a liberal supporting another goofball liberal. This is another characteristic of liberals. They ban together, even when they don’t know what they are talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozzy
Ozzy, do you call it garbage pointing out America is why slavery doesn’t exists in the world today?Quote:
Originally Posted by OzzyNot at all, far from being anywhere near left wing, just calling out your droned out repetitive garbage, you keep spewing, you sound like you have early onset dementia. You should seek help, before it's too late.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob21Ozzy, sounds like you’re a liberal supporting another goofball liberal. This is another characteristic of liberals. They ban together, even when they don’t know what they are talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozzy
Many people, including Redietz, don’t understand that.
People like Darkoz want to go back 500 years to when the concept of America wasn’t even around and slavery was everywhere. Are you like Darkoz and want to go back to Midevil times?
It’s funny what people consider dronning on. If someone agrees with a poster, they are okay with it. I can tell you and accountinquestion are buds, and likeminded liberals. About every post Accountinquestion makes he mentions I welched on a bet, which is a lie. Are you okay with accountinquestion dronning on about that?
I’ve always found Ozzy to be a level headed logical guy. You can’t say that about most people on here.
Hey Bozo bar, can you crisscross the country, again, one more time. Go for another at least eight states. Do old Ozzy Dozzy proud. The guy who thinks there's any "heat" in here. Lol.
Bob makes some very good points in here. I'm man enough to admit it. He had a novel (probability) argument, about Singer not discovering the double bug. I was too busy to add my two cents, a few weeks ago. I was impressed by his direction with it. Originality has to be evaluated in deeper ways. Same with his take on gravity. Made me fucking think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob21Ozzy, do you call it garbage pointing out America is why slavery doesn’t exists in the world today?Quote:
Originally Posted by OzzyNot at all, far from being anywhere near left wing, just calling out your droned out repetitive garbage, you keep spewing, you sound like you have early onset dementia. You should seek help, before it's too late.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob21
Many people, including Redietz, don’t understand that.
People like Darkoz want to go back 500 years to when the concept of America wasn’t even around and slavery was everywhere. Are you like Darkoz and want to go back to Medievil times?
It’s funny what people consider droning on. If someone agrees with a poster, they are okay with it. I can tell you and accountinquestion are buds, and like-minded liberals. About every post Accountinquestion makes he mentions I welched on a bet, which is a lie. Are you okay with accountinquestion droning on about that?
Likewise BozQuote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
Bob, your problem is you spend 95% of your time on this board trying to make the same 2 points. Point 1 - America is the greatest + saved + fixed everything. Point 2 - Liberals are the source of all modern problems in the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob21Ozzy, do you call it garbage pointing out America is why slavery doesn’t exists in the world today?Quote:
Originally Posted by OzzyNot at all, far from being anywhere near left wing, just calling out your droned out repetitive garbage, you keep spewing, you sound like you have early onset dementia. You should seek help, before it's too late.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob21
Many people, including Redietz, don’t understand that.
People like Darkoz want to go back 500 years to when the concept of America wasn’t even around and slavery was everywhere. Are you like Darkoz and want to go back to Midevil times?
It’s funny what people consider dronning on. If someone agrees with a poster, they are okay with it. I can tell you and accountinquestion are buds, and likeminded liberals. About every post Accountinquestion makes he mentions I welched on a bet, which is a lie. Are you okay with accountinquestion dronning on about that?
Thats where the drone comes about.. a slow and steady hummm about the same thing over and over. You have no interest in discussion, just droning on and on.
It is one thing to say that America pushed their anti-slavery values on the rest of the world, but a reasoned point like that is not the type Bob makes. America is THE REASON according to Bob. okey dokey. So he made me do some research...curious. The Slavery Abolition Act of 1833 formally freed 800,000 Africans who were then the legal property of Britain’s slave owners. So then you find out Bob's point is just exaggerated bullshit. 1865 was when we ratified 13th amendment.
So then I'm like, 'fuck, I've been tricked by Bob's rambling nonsense YET AGAIN'. My take away - 'Why the fuck did you read what Bob says'.
I only mention Bob21 welched on CHARITABLE GIVING when he starts bringing me up. People need to understand the context of what sort of person he is. Not everyone pays that close of attention.
Yale University was named after Elihu Yale, a known commercial slave trader. Time for Yale to change it's name. Haven't looked into it yet but the Dukes that Duke University was named after were probably slave holders too.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzHas it occurred to you, BOB21, that maybe kneeling during the anthem has nothing to do with the flag? It may have to do with the anthem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob21Yes, it's a sad situation. One bad cop has caused all the sports leagues to change their policies.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach belly
https://www.npr.org/sections/live-up...ational-anthem
I wonder how long it will be before the left makes standing while the national anthem is playing a crime. They are currently only using high pressure tactics to get people to kneel and do whatever to disrespect the flag. It's interesting how the general public is falling for all this like lemons.
Kneeling during the anthem actually makes a lot of sense if you're black. If you don't know what I'm talking about, then I suggest you read the entire national anthem. I can't see why any black person would stand for it, given the third stanza. Really, no American should stand for that song. We should change the anthem. If people are changing the Mississippi flag, hell, the anthem is worse.
Now I have read that there is some debate about the third stanza, but the most common and obvious interpretation is pretty damned bad.
I hope the left is good and ready for a dose of its own medicine.
Well most of 'the left' didn't go to either one of these and won't particularly care. Those who actually graduated from these schools, right or left will have a strong opinion and have to deal with this.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmYale University was named after Elihu Yale, a known commercial slave trader. Time for Yale to change it's name. Haven't looked into it yet but the Dukes that Duke University was named after were probably slave holders too.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzHas it occurred to you, BOB21, that maybe kneeling during the anthem has nothing to do with the flag? It may have to do with the anthem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob21
Kneeling during the anthem actually makes a lot of sense if you're black. If you don't know what I'm talking about, then I suggest you read the entire national anthem. I can't see why any black person would stand for it, given the third stanza. Really, no American should stand for that song. We should change the anthem. If people are changing the Mississippi flag, hell, the anthem is worse.
Now I have read that there is some debate about the third stanza, but the most common and obvious interpretation is pretty damned bad.
I hope the left is good and ready for a dose of its own medicine.
Lucky like most Americans I only went to a state university.
These are interesting discussions though, how far will it go and to what absurdities. Renaming the schools named after slave-holding families seems completely fair. so lol here we gooooo.....
People said the same thing about Abraham Lincoln in the 1860s, when he rose up and "dronned" on and on about the evils of slavery. At that time, there were two parties, the Wiggs and Democrats. And neither party wanted to do anything about it. They just wanted to ignore the issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionBob, your problem is you spend 95% of your time on this board trying to make the same 2 points. Point 1 - America is the greatest + saved + fixed everything. Point 2 - Liberals are the source of all modern problems in the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob21Ozzy, do you call it garbage pointing out America is why slavery doesn’t exists in the world today?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozzy
Many people, including Redietz, don’t understand that.
People like Darkoz want to go back 500 years to when the concept of America wasn’t even around and slavery was everywhere. Are you like Darkoz and want to go back to Midevil times?
It’s funny what people consider dronning on. If someone agrees with a poster, they are okay with it. I can tell you and accountinquestion are buds, and likeminded liberals. About every post Accountinquestion makes he mentions I welched on a bet, which is a lie. Are you okay with accountinquestion dronning on about that?
Thats where the drone comes about.. a slow and steady hummm about the same thing over and over. You have no interest in discussion, just droning on and on.
It is one thing to say that America pushed their anti-slavery values on the rest of the world, but a reasoned point like that is not the type Bob makes. America is THE REASON according to Bob. okey dokey. So he made me do some research...curious. The Slavery Abolition Act of 1833 formally freed 800,000 Africans who were then the legal property of Britain’s slave owners. So then you find out Bob's point is just exaggerated bullshit. 1865 was when we ratified 13th amendment.
So then I'm like, 'fuck, I've been tricked by Bob's rambling nonsense YET AGAIN'. My take away - 'Why the fuck did you read what Bob says'.
I only mention Bob21 welched on CHARITABLE GIVING when he starts bringing me up. People need to understand the context of what sort of person he is. Not everyone pays that close of attention.
So what did good ol' Abe do? He started a new party, called the Republican party, which was formed for the purpose of freeing the slaves. Btw, the Republican party has always stood for freedom from it's very inception. In the 1860s, it was trying to free slaves from individuals, while today it's trying to free "slaves" from the government. Just as the Democrats were into slavery in the 1800s, Democrats continue to be into slavery today, but it's almost a worst kind ...it's the kind where they want the State to own people, and control their lives and thoughts.
If you don't believe me go to any inner city and see what the liberal Democrats have created. They have created a system where the government warehouses people in projects, destroying their families (something that was not done under slavery) and giving these people no hope, but the Democrats still demand their vote, saying only they can provide for them. Talk about a form of slavery. And btw, I'm not the only person who has made this point.
And Accountinquestion, here is what you're missing in your simpleton view of history. Why did Britain and the rest of Europe move to a system run by the people, rather than controlled by monarchies? Because Europe saw what America was doing and demanded it from their country.
In some countries, it occurred through violent revolution and in others, like Britain, the monarch gave up control without a revolution. As you've correctly, pointed out Britain was the first Western country to free their slaves. But this happened long after they had gained their independence from the monarchy. Freedom of the monarchy, is what led Britain to free their slaves. The same happened in America and every other country in the world, but at different times.
The point is it all started with the concept of America. America set all this in motion when the first pilgrims landed in America in the 1600s seeking freedom, something that was nowhere to be found in Europe, or the rest of the world, at that time.
History is complicated so I don't expect people like you, Redietz, MWP, Darkoz or even DGenBen to understand it. I mean Redietz is still upset over the third stanza in the Star Spangled Banner. When people get into these petty grips they miss the big picture. The BIG PICTURE is slavery isn't around today because of America.
Look, no country is perfect...every country, including ours, has a past, and it's all not good. But if you - and all the liberal goofballs out there trying to tear down America - understood history and why America was formed, you'd get how America stands for freedom, and led to the abolishment of slavery here and throughout the world.
And this is no small achievement since Slavery had been around in some form almost from the beginning of civilization. This is probably too much for accountinquestion and Redietz to take in, so I don't expect you two to get it. But we do have some smart people on this site, who understand history and I'm sure they already know everything I just said.
I am not a historian, but I need to comment on the phrase, "America, is why slavery, for the most part, does not exist today in the world.".
America was not the forerunner for society in the 1850's. Europe, not America, knew where America stood in the world positioning. America was not a leader in the efforts to abolish slavery.
As stated earlier, there was a pact in 1815, Congress of Vienna, that declared opposition to slavery. The countries included: UK, Portugal, Sweden, Norway, France, Austria, Russia, Spain, and Prussia. Yes, there are other smaller colonies that took the initiate before 1865.
The countries from that Congress of Vienna pact took years to implement their internal rules. They did it before on their own before 1865.
There are other countries as: Argentina, Peru, and Venezuela that passed the rule before America.
I am not political. Just stating facts (as far as I know).
But America WAS in the forefront of ending slavery. Abolitionists were here in the 1600's. Thomas Jefferson outlawed the importation of slaves during his presidency (1801-1809). As it developed, the northern states with a population above 20 million whites were free soil but the southern states with a population of about 4 million whites were not. Though they wanted to for decades the north could not end slavery because of the inordinate amount of political power the south wielded in the Senate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deech
The United States was all about ending slavery from our very beginning. Thomas Jefferson wanted to indict the King of England in the Declaration of Independence for carrying on the slave trade but was nixed by the Committee of Five because the slaveholding colonies were badly needed in the fight to separate from England.
The United States was at the forefront of ending slavery from our very beginning. Slaveholders represented about 1% of the population but because of their political power it took decades of political movement and a civil war to eradicate slaveholder's political and economic power and end slavery.
But the marxist dogma is always America bad. Isn't that right, Comrade Dietz?
I never say it butQuote:
Originally Posted by Bob21People said the same thing about Abraham Lincoln in the 1860s, when he rose up and "dronned" on and on about the evils of slavery. At that time, there were two parties, the Wiggs and Democrats. And neither party wanted to do anything about it. They just wanted to ignore the issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionBob, your problem is you spend 95% of your time on this board trying to make the same 2 points. Point 1 - America is the greatest + saved + fixed everything. Point 2 - Liberals are the source of all modern problems in the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob21
Thats where the drone comes about.. a slow and steady hummm about the same thing over and over. You have no interest in discussion, just droning on and on.
It is one thing to say that America pushed their anti-slavery values on the rest of the world, but a reasoned point like that is not the type Bob makes. America is THE REASON according to Bob. okey dokey. So he made me do some research...curious. The Slavery Abolition Act of 1833 formally freed 800,000 Africans who were then the legal property of Britain’s slave owners. So then you find out Bob's point is just exaggerated bullshit. 1865 was when we ratified 13th amendment.
So then I'm like, 'fuck, I've been tricked by Bob's rambling nonsense YET AGAIN'. My take away - 'Why the fuck did you read what Bob says'.
I only mention Bob21 welched on CHARITABLE GIVING when he starts bringing me up. People need to understand the context of what sort of person he is. Not everyone pays that close of attention.
So what did good ol' Abe do? He started a new party, called the Republican party, which was formed for the purpose of freeing the slaves. Btw, the Republican party has always stood for freedom from it's very inception. In the 1860s, it was trying to free slaves from individuals, while today it's trying to free "slaves" from the government. Just as the Democrats were into slavery in the 1800s, Democrats continue to be into slavery today, but it's almost a worst kind ...it's the kind where they want the State to own people, and control their lives and thoughts.
If you don't believe me go to any inner city and see what the liberal Democrats have created. They have created a system where the government warehouses people in projects, destroying their families (something that was not done under slavery) and giving these people no hope, but the Democrats still demand their vote, saying only they can provide for them. Talk about a form of slavery. And btw, I'm not the only person who has made this point.
And Accountinquestion, here is what you're missing in your simpleton view of history. Why did Britain and the rest of Europe move to a system run by the people, rather than controlled by monarchies? Because Europe saw what America was doing and demanded it from their country.
In some countries, it occurred through violent revolution and in others, like Britain, the monarch gave up control without a revolution. As you've correctly, pointed out Britain was the first Western country to free their slaves. But this happened long after they had gained their independence from the monarchy. Freedom of the monarchy, is what led Britain to free their slaves. The same happened in America and every other country in the world, but at different times.
The point is it all started with the concept of America. America set all this in motion when the first pilgrims landed in America in the 1600s seeking freedom, something that was nowhere to be found in Europe, or the rest of the world, at that time.
History is complicated so I don't expect people like you, Redietz, MWP, Darkoz or even DGenBen to understand it. I mean Redietz is still upset over the third stanza in the Star Spangled Banner. When people get into these petty grips they miss the big picture. The BIG PICTURE is slavery isn't around today because of America.
Look, no country is perfect...every country, including ours, has a past, and it's all not good. But if you - and all the liberal goofballs out there trying to tear down America - understood history and why America was formed, you'd get how America stands for freedom, and led to the abolishment of slavery here and throughout the world.
And this is no small achievement since Slavery had been around in some form almost from the beginning of civilization. This is probably too much for accountinquestion and Redietz to take in, so I don't expect you two to get it. But we do have some smart people on this site, who understand history and I'm sure they already know everything I just said.
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Seriously once you made a comparison between yourself and Abraham Lincoln.. lmao. Pure crazytown.
Did the Civil War really and actually, ever, end? I think that you guys, in many more ways than one, are still fighting it. Anyway, all the infighting made you guys so strong that a dumb (fucking) virus took over. Lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmBut America WAS in the forefront of ending slavery. Abolitionists were here in the 1600's. Thomas Jefferson outlawed the importation of slaves during his presidency (1801-1809). As it developed, the northern states with a population above 20 million whites were free soil but the southern states with a population of about 4 million whites were not. Though they wanted to for decades the north could not end slavery because of the inordinate amount of political power the south wielded in the Senate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deech
The United States was all about ending slavery from our very beginning. Thomas Jefferson wanted to indict the King of England in the Declaration of Independence for carrying on the slave trade but was nixed by the Committee of Five because the slaveholding colonies were badly needed in the fight to separate from England.
The United States was at the forefront of ending slavery from our very beginning. Slaveholders represented about 1% of the population but because of their political power it took decades of political movement and a civil war to eradicate slaveholder's political and economic power and end slavery.
But the marxist dogma is always America bad. Isn't that right, Comrade Dietz?
I believe that Thomas Jefferson was one of the finest statesmen/politicians we have had in this country. Yes, he advocated for abolition but still owned slaves during his lifetime. Granted, most of these slaves were "inherited".Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmBut America WAS in the forefront of ending slavery. Abolitionists were here in the 1600's. Thomas Jefferson outlawed the importation of slaves during his presidency (1801-1809). As it developed, the northern states with a population above 20 million whites were free soil but the southern states with a population of about 4 million whites were not. Though they wanted to for decades the north could not end slavery because of the inordinate amount of political power the south wielded in the Senate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deech
The United States was all about ending slavery from our very beginning. Thomas Jefferson wanted to indict the King of England in the Declaration of Independence for carrying on the slave trade but was nixed by the Committee of Five because the slaveholding colonies were badly needed in the fight to separate from England.
The United States was at the forefront of ending slavery from our very beginning. Slaveholders represented about 1% of the population but because of their political power it took decades of political movement and a civil war to eradicate slaveholder's political and economic power and end slavery.
But the marxist dogma is always America bad. Isn't that right, Comrade Dietz?
While Jefferson pushed for abolition, his home state of Virginia had the slave population increase by 60% between 1790 and 1830 (Jefferson died in 1826). The southern states were not going to cater to this approach.
Jefferson had a plan of gradual emancipation. The elimination of transatlantic slave trade, improve slave's living conditions, and arranging for new born slaves to be freed after a certain age. Personally, this sounds logical. Unfortunately, opponents stated that if slavery conditions were improved, then there is no need for abolition.
Jefferson was 100% correct about one thought. He stated that if slavery continued, there will be a day when the country would be fighting within itself regarding this issue. He loved his new country so much, he did not want to see this happen.
While Jefferson was an abolitionist, his reasoning to end slavery were not exactly pure. He believed that whites and blacks were two separate nations who could not live peacefully in any one country. Secondly, he thought blacks were racially inferior and simple minded. Thirdly, he thought that freed slaves would eventually attack their previous owners, hence, they should be deported. Keeping freed slaves in America would result in a race war.
As stated earlier, I do not believe America was at the forefront globally of freeing slaves since it did not occur until the mid 1860's. I do find it ironic that not all abolitionists wanted emancipation for blacks as a noble cause. They wanted them freed and shipped to another country.
PS: The Broadway play, "Hamilton" is on Disney Plus this coming Friday night. A great play and a great historical experience.
PSS: MC, no disagreement with most of what you stated.
Deechster, you may want to use PPS rather than PSS (“PPS” for “post postscript”). I only mention it since you cared enough to use something (PSS) after P.S.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deech
You are correct. Damn keyboard.
Deech, here’s what you’re missing in your micro-analysis. If you want to get technical, the end of slavery really started when the pilgrims landed in America in the 1600s, searching for and finding freedom.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeechI believe that Thomas Jefferson was one of the finest statesmen/politicians we have had in this country. Yes, he advocated for abolition but still owned slaves during his lifetime. Granted, most of these slaves were "inherited".Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmBut America WAS in the forefront of ending slavery. Abolitionists were here in the 1600's. Thomas Jefferson outlawed the importation of slaves during his presidency (1801-1809). As it developed, the northern states with a population above 20 million whites were free soil but the southern states with a population of about 4 million whites were not. Though they wanted to for decades the north could not end slavery because of the inordinate amount of political power the south wielded in the Senate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deech
The United States was all about ending slavery from our very beginning. Thomas Jefferson wanted to indict the King of England in the Declaration of Independence for carrying on the slave trade but was nixed by the Committee of Five because the slaveholding colonies were badly needed in the fight to separate from England.
The United States was at the forefront of ending slavery from our very beginning. Slaveholders represented about 1% of the population but because of their political power it took decades of political movement and a civil war to eradicate slaveholder's political and economic power and end slavery.
But the marxist dogma is always America bad. Isn't that right, Comrade Dietz?
While Jefferson pushed for abolition, his home state of Virginia had the slave population increase by 60% between 1790 and 1830 (Jefferson died in 1826). The southern states were not going to cater to this approach.
Jefferson had a plan of gradual emancipation. The elimination of transatlantic slave trade, improve slave's living conditions, and arranging for new born slaves to be freed after a certain age. Personally, this sounds logical. Unfortunately, opponents stated that if slavery conditions were improved, then there is no need for abolition.
Jefferson was 100% correct about one thought. He stated that if slavery continued, there will be a day when the country would be fighting within itself regarding this issue. He loved his new country so much, he did not want to see this happen.
While Jefferson was an abolitionist, his reasoning to end slavery were not exactly pure. He believed that whites and blacks were two separate nations who could not live peacefully in any one country. Secondly, he thought blacks were racially inferior and simple minded. Thirdly, he thought that freed slaves would eventually attack their previous owners, hence, they should be deported. Keeping freed slaves in America would result in a race war.
As stated earlier, I do not believe America was at the forefront globally of freeing slaves since it did not occur until the mid 1860's. I do find it ironic that not all abolitionists wanted emancipation for blacks as a noble cause. They wanted them freed and shipped to another country.
PS: The Broadway play, "Hamilton" is on Disney Plus this coming Friday night. A great play and a great historical experience.
PSS: MC, no disagreement with most of what you stated.
Every country that you mention that pushed for abolishment of slavery had to first become free themselves. They became free because they saw what America was developing, and they wanted it in their home country. Believe it or not, much of this happened even before our American revolution.
So once the people in these countries got their freedom, they saw the hypocrisy of slavery and pushed for freeing slaves too. Yes, it didn’t happen overnight, but when an institution like slavery has been around for thousands of years, it doesn’t die easy.
Just like the evil of liberalism is around today and accepted by the mainstream, the same was true with slavery back then.
So I still contend (and many historians agree with me, and have pointed this out long before I came along) that America or you could say the concept of America is what ultimately led to the abolishment of slavery.
It’s the same argument you’ll hear liberals make about the civil war, trying to distort history claiming our civil war was to unite a nation, rather than to free the slaves. This is a complete misunderstanding of why we had a civil war.
As a refresher for those that don’t know what led to the civil war, Abraham Lincoln was a Wigg and tried to get the party to address the slave issue, but many wouldn’t listen to him. They looked at Abe as a “drone”, and wish he quit bringing up the slavery issue, since it made people uncomfortable. Btw, there were a lot of people back then like Ozzy, who didn’t want to hear about or confront evil, so they called people that did drones, or something like that.
So Abe formed a new party called the Republican party, whose main platform was to free the slaves. Here’s an interesting fact. When Lincoln was elected, but before he became President, the South succeeded, because they wanted no part of what Lincoln was going to do. I mean Lincoln was elected for the sole purpose of freeing the slaves.
So what did Lincoln do? He went to war with the South so he could bring them back under his control and free the slaves. Obviously, Abe couldn’t free the slaves, if he didn’t control the south.
More people died in our Civil War than in WW I, WW II and Vietnam, and this was when there weren’t many people in our country. Think about it? Is this what a racist nation would do? A bunch of white people electing a president for the sole purpose of ending slavery and then having to go to war to get it done. And this was a violent violent war. More soldiers died in one battle at Gettysburg than in the entire Vietnam war.
I stand by my contention: America is what led the world out of darkness and is the reason slavery doesn’t exist today.
Now the sad fact is the Democrats under Lyndon Johnson, the most racist president we’ve ever had, led many blacks back into slavery, but this time they were slaves to the State. The Democrats tricked the blacks by telling them to trust the government to take care of them, and many did and it hasn’t gone well.
As the Republican did in the 1860s, the Republicans are once again the party trying to free Blacks; but this time it’s from the State.
Democrats have always been the party for slavery...nothing much has changed with the party since the 1800s, but now slavery is disguised as liberalism....instead of being owned by another individual, Democrats want your life to be owned and controlled by the State.
Here’s another interesting fact about America most people don’t know. When we got our independence in 1776 and our Founders formed our constitution they wanted slavery eliminated at that time. They understood the hypocrisy of our constitution, while still having slavery. So the abolitionist movement was in place in the 1700s, and long before that in NA.
Here’s the problem they had. The South would not go along with it, and sign onto becoming a nation, if slavery was eliminated. At that time, the Founders felt it was important to form a country for protection and they would deal with the slavery issue later. They needed the South for the protection of our Nation. We weren’t big back then, and there were still a lot of countries that wanted to attack us, not to mention the Indians constantly attacking us. At that time, our nation was mainly formed for protection against foreign enemies. States still controlled everything locally.
Most the Founders thought the slavery issue would get addressed a short time later. They never thought it’d take 100 years and a violent civil war to finally end it. So it’s not correct to say America didn’t do anything about slavery untill 1860s.
There was a lot of activity here and in other countries to get rid of it, almost as soon as the first slaves arrived in NA. But we were decentralized at that time, with each colony doing its own thing. And slavery was the norm back then, kind of like liberalism is for us today.
I know it’s hard for some people to put history into context of what is going on at that time. These people like to apply our situation and our culture and our values to things in the past. It doesn’t work that way. To understand history and people’s actions and comments, you’ve got to put it into context of that time.
In fact, all nations in the West had a large part of their population against slavery. But they first had to get freedom themselves, before they could do something about slavery.
This is what America taught the world. We can be free from the State and another individual owning us, while still having a government to protect us from outside enemies. America taught nations around the world how to be self-governing, which led to the end of slavery.
If the people kneeling and sitting when our National Anthem is played understood our history, they would be standing tall and proud to be an American, but they have been radicalized by the Left, and have a distorted view of history.
The US should have let the Germans take Russia, just before the annihilation of Japan. From Japan, instead of having Japan return territory to China, the US could have taken over China. Think about it. No coronavirus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob21
This subject. So whats with those blue line flags? So you can chop up flag and recolor it for your politics and thats NOT disrespectful, but kneeling is. lol. It isn't that I really care if people kneel or not, I just don't care, let them do what they wish. I don't find it obscene so let them do it. Not much more to it. Who really is about freedom. lol. fucking nuttersQuote:
Originally Posted by LMRThe US should have let the Germans take Russia, just before the annihilation of Japan. From Japan, instead of having Japan return territory to China, the US could have taken over China. Think about it. No coronavirus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob21
Once again Rachel Maddow proves how stupid she is. She said the June jobs report was going to be terrible. Hahahahhahahahahahaha!!!!
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...i9hUaYWKhCjst2
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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
She might have egg on her face assuming it is all factual and not misleading.
LOL at that "news".
It even tallies up how many Fox shows have more viewership. I'm not even sure what the point is of the article. Just a ton of random shit put together that is agreeable to people of a certain political persuasion.
Th lefties are all mixed up. According to them Trump is going to drop out of the presidential election. And also according to them he won’t leave office if he loses the election. You can’t make this shit up.
https://www.google.com/search?source...ongman+leadersQuote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
The fact that you worship such an anti-American goon then act like a patriot shows how terribly lost you are.
Lol! CNN is calling Mt. Rushmore “Slaveowners.” In 2016 CNN called Mt. Rushmore “4 Great Presidents.” You can’t make this shit up.
Where does one get the news about the news? Another Fox News special?Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
This is the most important news story of the campaign. Creepy Joe Biden sides with every hateful and false thing the cowards at CNN say, yet they all forget about the praise they bestowed upon Mt. Rushmore just 4 years ago. They know how stupid they look today and they're completely embarrassed by it.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Trump and his supporters win big again.
The biggest story is you and Mickey getting together to go down the shitter.
Mount Rushmore is a mountain of granite. Who praised this national preserve four years ago and dissed it this year? I must have missed that article.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.SingerThis is the most important news story of the campaign. Creepy Joe Biden sides with every hateful and false thing the cowards at CNN say, yet they all forget about the praise they bestowed upon Mt. Rushmore just 4 years ago. They know how stupid they look today and they're completely embarrassed by it.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Trump and his supporters win big again.
Good question, of course, but even if they answer it, it will be with more childish "riddles".
CNN is pounding the story of hospitals being overrun again. What they don't tell you is that hospitals normally operate at 85% to 90% capacity. That's without CV. So it don't take much spike in CV cases to put the hospital at capacity.
I think CNN is seeing the BLM story for the dog it is. They are realizing it helps, not hurts Trump so they are tilting back to CV. But the lack of deaths is troubling to them, along with the positives being mostly young with no symptoms.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
PA yesterday had 2700 new cases and 3 deaths.
The lack of deaths is also troubling to redietz.Quote:
Originally Posted by The BozI think CNN is seeing the BLM story for the dog it is. They are realizing it helps, not hurts Trump so they are tilting back to CV. But the lack of deaths is troubling to them, along with the positives being mostly young with no symptoms.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
PA yesterday had 2700 new cases and 3 deaths.
CNN praised Mt. Rushmore 4 years ago then condemned it last week. They look just as stupid doing so as that racist loser Colin Kap now does when he said "Have a blessed 4th of July everyone" in 2011 and now claims it's a celebration of white supremacy....even as blacks being killed by white cops has GONE DOWN over the years since then.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeechMount Rushmore is a mountain of granite. Who praised this national preserve four years ago and dissed it this year? I must have missed that article.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.SingerThis is the most important news story of the campaign. Creepy Joe Biden sides with every hateful and false thing the cowards at CNN say, yet they all forget about the praise they bestowed upon Mt. Rushmore just 4 years ago. They know how stupid they look today and they're completely embarrassed by it.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Trump and his supporters win big again.
These idiots think people who read skip over these things. Redietz ought to LOVE these fools.
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Originally Posted by mickeycrimmThe lack of deaths is also troubling to redietz.Quote:
Originally Posted by The BozI think CNN is seeing the BLM story for the dog it is. They are realizing it helps, not hurts Trump so they are tilting back to CV. But the lack of deaths is troubling to them, along with the positives being mostly young with no symptoms.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
PA yesterday had 2700 new cases and 3 deaths.
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...d-symptoms-who
More proof you are getting scared the death rate isn’t growing enough for your Doctor Death goals. Once the liberal governors you idolize so much stopped sending infected to Nursing Homes, the deaths dropped. We are now at the point where many younger Americans are finding out they had it and never knew it.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzQuote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmThe lack of deaths is also troubling to redietz.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...d-symptoms-who
So of course you have to try and change the narrative to something like this. You are so damn predictable RED.
I just wish I could figure out why you get off on this so much and want more deaths. I get you are a liberal and hate Trump and will say or do anything to help Biden. Or think you are helping Biden. But I think it goes deeper than that, you have too much invested in Death. I don’t see a monetary angle, so there has to be something I am missing.
Either way, nothing has changed, 99%+ of us have nothing to fear from the CV. By the way, what ever happened to all the TP people bought because they thought they would be on the toilet for weeks?
We already knew redietz was a lying liberal wimp who found it very difficult to admit to how he solicited me several times. Now we see how he cares nothing about how many and which people are dying and eating dirt because of this virus, and how very much he desires that even more people succumb to the wishes of Dr. Death....just to help old man Biden.
Typical dirtbag libtard faggot.
The Guardian? That's the kind of places you get your news? No wonder.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzQuote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmThe lack of deaths is also troubling to redietz.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...d-symptoms-who
Did I miss the forest fires sweeping South Dakota because of the fireworks?
And now we find out that this lone blackie Bubba Watson from NASCAR made a false claim about someone putting a "noose" in his garage. What an asshole. Typical Jesse Smollet style fake hate crime.
And of course, after Trump chimed in about this black fool with his noose hoax, loudmouth super racist Stephan A. Smith just had to claim Trump is a hateful racist for denouncing the black ass Wallace for lying. F him and all his "bros" who think he's the second coming of the black christ. They are all dumb POS.
The "noose" was a door pull on a garage. I keep waiting for them to put up a picture of the noose on TV but so far--what's it been? a couple of weeks?--I haven't seen a picture of that damn "noose." I think the reason why is it probably bears little resemblance to a real noose. Fake News!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Governor Whitmer was on CNN this morning showing her disappointment at pics of some kids partying on a lake. There are pics of the phony bitch herself at a gathering on Lake Michigan. Phony bitch!!
I saw it somewhere. It was a noose. A tiny little noose. Big deal.
Bubba Wallace did not directly make the claim about the noose. It was a member of his team. The FBI verified that the noose was in the garage. They also investigated and determined that the noose was placed and had been in the garage before the garage assignments were made before the NASCAR race. It was not a false claim. Please research before making incendiary items in advance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Oh, Bubba Watson is not black. He is not involved with NASCAR. He is a white golfer.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...-bubba-wallace
Calling it a "noose" is a false claim. It was a door pull.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeechBubba Wallace did not directly make the claim about the noose. It was a member of his team. The FBI verified that the noose was in the garage. They also investigated and determined that the noose was placed and had been in the garage before the garage assignments were made before the NASCAR race. It was not a false claim. Please research before making incendiary items in advance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Oh, Bubba Watson is not black. He is not involved with NASCAR. He is a white golfer.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...-bubba-wallace
Bubba Watson was the PGA Player who found a box of saltines in his locker at Augusta, but the FBI concluded the lockers were randomly selected before the match.
They would freak out to learn there were several hundred black slave owners.