I'm shocked a man serving hobo accompanied a murderer to the police station.
I'm shocked.
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I'm shocked a man serving hobo accompanied a murderer to the police station.
I'm shocked.
#NOT
Idk Maxi, you seem to have your wires crossed here. Either the initial story isn’t believable and he didn’t know a jailhouse lawyer murderer therefore didn’t accompany him to the police station, or the story is believable and he did. You can’t have it both ways man.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxPen
Hard to say when it's Tales of the Hobo Life your reading. I don't believe the guys claims as to what he told Man Servant he accomplished as a jailhouse lawyer. I do believe Crimm accompanied a murderer to the police station. Cause that's something a man serving hobo would do.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcapIdk Maxi, you seem to have your wires crossed here. Either the initial story isn’t believable and he didn’t know a jailhouse lawyer murderer therefore didn’t accompany him to the police station, or the story is believable and he did. You can’t have it both ways man.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxPen
Druff needs to fix his Ignore feature. When I put someone on my ignore list I don't want anything to do with them. But everytime they post Druff has a message that says "This message is hidden because (this person) is on your ignore list."
Yes, the person is on my ignore list. So why am I being told they made a post? I'm supposed to be ignoring that person. Remember?
There was a time when maxpen followed my strategies, made comments about them, and thanked me for it. And you can bet your ass he will still follow anything I write on gambling strategy. There just won't be any acknowledgement or thanks anymore.
It's people like him that soured me on revealing gambling strategies. They will use the information but turn right around and make personal attacks on you.
maxpuke and I had a cordial relationship on this forum. But one day he threw it all out the window with a vicious personal attack on me. It says a lot about a person that would do that. maxpunk is a filthy piece of shit. He's not even man enough to admit he did it. Let me know if he ever admits it because I don't read a fucking thing the homo writes anymore.
There's a reason maxpunk never writes anything technical about gambling on this forum. He doesn't know jackshit. He's a stepandfetchit on a slot team. He works for wages. Gets a bonus if he hits a jackpot.
Here's the link to conclusive proof maxpunk is the one that started it all:
https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...ew-First-Blood
This is turning uglier than the Hatfield and McCoys.
I just remembered something. Bill Hartman was one of the key people I met in 1996 when my gambling career took off. I wrote about him on page 3 of the Laughlin RFB 362 thread on WoV almost 8 years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcapIdk Maxi, you seem to have your wires crossed here. Either the initial story isn’t believable and he didn’t know a jailhouse lawyer murderer therefore didn’t accompany him to the police station, or the story is believable and he did. You can’t have it both ways man.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxPen
Check out page 3
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-...lin-rfb-362/3/
The Hatfields and McCoys weren't that ugly....compared to chocolate-lips kew.Quote:
Originally Posted by monet
Gotta love the Black guy talking about people's lips. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Let me make sure I understand this:
KewlJ, it is now your claim that you are not gay. I really don't care one way or another, and never did, but what is a little annoying about that is that it seems like you got some undue sympathy when your partner died (and you discussed it) because, if you're not gay, then there was no partner. Even then, I don't really care...I'm just going to assume that everything you say vis-a-vis your personal life, both previously and ongoing, is probably a lie.
If Kewl is not gay, that means I have to take his poster off my ceiling and put Farrah Fawcett back up!!
With all that the UNKOOL1 has said over the last few days, most likely covering his behind, I have come out with 5 possible categories for him 1- Fraud( like Chrissy Mitchell without financial gain) 2- Weasel( like his buddy Rusty) 3- Liar 4-UNKOOL(given) or last but not least 5- ALL OF THE ABOVE.
I vote all of the above. :)
I had that poster, regnis. In fact, I used it in a Speech 101 class at Penn State. I gave a speech about giving speeches, and when it came time to talk about the body of a speech, I rolled up the movie screen and had that poster staring at the audience.Quote:
Originally Posted by regnis
The thing about that poster, if you look real close, you could say she looks a little bit like a dude, although in 1975 that didn't occur to anyone.
Mission, I will respond to your post because I feel you deserve it because you did the interview with me. Give me a couple hours til I get home.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mission146
This is one off those sites that keeps on giving.
Ok, I know there is only a very handful of blackjack type professional level players here, but I think most members will understand these references.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mission146
Johnny Chang of the MIT blackjack team, rather infamously dressed in disguise as a woman in order to play.
Kenny Uston had about 40 not just disguises but complete personality with back stories, in order to play.
EVERY professional level (and that doesn't have to mean blackjack is your only source of income) blackjack player has at one time or another used some semblance of disguise in order to play, or increase longevity. It may be something as simple as wearing a cap when you usually don't, changing hair style, change in facial hair, wearing glasses, or it could be as elaborate as Chang and Uston. But EVERY serious player has in some way attempted to change his appearance to throw off casino personnel. THAT is just the way things are.
So what I did was the equivalent of a disguise, electronically. We know, and anyone that doesn't should be aware that casino industry personnel monitor these gambling forum, and social media platforms looking for information to identify advantage players. At the top of that list would be the database companies. They employ people that just do this. Individual casinos not as much, but there certainly are some casino employees that may take it upon themselves, outside their official capacity, to do this. Some casino industry employees don't even attempt to hide the fact. Stanford Wong once confirmed that there were casino management employees among his Green Chip membership. This is just a fact and particularly in a place like Las Vegas.
So the question I have posed a couple times over the past few days and will again is Why would you think that a professional player, who has managed to stay ahead of the casinos in Las Vegas for 12 years now, be running around to all these different forums revealing everything in God's name about himself?
Hindsight being 20/20, I am sure it is easy to look back and say, "yeah he wouldn't". As a matter of fact my email was blowing up yesterday with AP's that I network with and consider online friends, all claiming they knew what I was doing. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't. Maybe some of the AP's here and other forums did. Doesn't matter, it wasn't for the benefit of any one of you people. It was about casino industry people that monitor or are on these forums, and to that, I succeeded! As MaxPen would say "I won the internet". :cool:
I did what I did so that I could share some of my experiences, most of my experience and almost in real time. Without a "deflect' or electronic disguise like that, I could have never done that.
I also shared some things in my personal life that were very real. The unexpected loss of the person I was married to. Several medical conditions. Because these things effected my blackjack play, career and journey. I just made sure anyone looking for me was looking for someone completely different than they thought.
Now it just so happens that because I picked a "gay" persona as my disguise, a number of very bigotted, homophobic type people came out of the woodwork attacking me, like Singer, Blackhole, Moses, Mdawg and a few others. (Coach belly's attacks were more anti-AP and less specific anti-gay, so I will leave him off that list). That wasn't planned on my part. But it disn't hurt the cause. ;)
I am not going to discuss this any further. No need. No offense to anyone, but I don't care what anyone thinks. I didn't come to these forums to make friends. I don't meet people and make friends off the forums. I don't have some agenda like Mdawg has or Rob had for years and year of needing people to believe my gambling escapades that defy math and the way things work. I don't need to call myself the GOAT or the "Pope of Las Vegas". That crap isn't what I am about, so it doesn't matter what anyone thinks. As a matter of fact, I am better off people thinking all sorts of stuff under the sun about who I am.
And if people can't separate what I share about blackjack and some of the way I apply techniques, from the digital disguise I have employed....well again, that is on them. Welcome to the world of casino advantage play in the 21st century.
What a load of BS.
You're a nut bro. I've always been suspect about you even being a professional blackjack player but people who know more than me insist you are - yet no one verifiable has ever met you. Now you're claiming you lied about your sexual orientation for years to throw off the casinos? Clearly you lie more than is needed whatever the truth is here. It should throw everything you say into question.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
This is not the "world of casino advantage play" anymore than Zenkings rants.
I'm having a very hard time believing that kewlJ's gay thing was an act, for various reasons.
What a bizarre turn of events.
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Originally Posted by accountinquestionYou're a nut bro. I've always been suspect about you even being a professional blackjack player but people who know more than me insist you are - yet no one verifiable has ever met you. Now you're claiming you lied about your sexual orientation for years to throw off the casinos? Clearly you lie more than is needed whatever the truth is here. It should throw everything you say into question.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
This is not the "world of casino advantage play" anymore than Zenkings rants.
I'm gonna state the obvious. Apply Ockham's Razor.
If you think kewlJ is a professional blackjack player, what is more likely:
(1) The internet persona with its life events.
(2) The internet persona and life events as a mirage.
To me, it's not even close.
(3) Fuck Off and go slurp noodles with your slant eyed girlfriend.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
There is far more to it and a ton of subtlty and context. I mean unless the guy is locked up, he has played blackjack. So I'm sure some of the stuff is true but the dude is suspect as a whole. Anyway I have no real concern to prove it or interest in it, but the non-stop lying should make one pause to consider.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzQuote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionYou're a nut bro. I've always been suspect about you even being a professional blackjack player but people who know more than me insist you are - yet no one verifiable has ever met you. Now you're claiming you lied about your sexual orientation for years to throw off the casinos? Clearly you lie more than is needed whatever the truth is here. It should throw everything you say into question.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
This is not the "world of casino advantage play" anymore than Zenkings rants.
I'm gonna state the obvious. Apply Ockham's Razor.
If you think kewlJ is a professional blackjack player, what is more likely:
(1) The internet persona with its life events.
(2) The internet persona and life events as a mirage.
To me, it's not even close.
You have to realize that on the internet, there are exceptional characters who concoct stories about their lifestyle for years on end. It is like catfishing, but quite a bit different. These people exist. I've seen them before. Is Kewl one of them? Maybe he plays blackjack a lot and is +EV. Who knows.. but believing him because he has said something would be far from wise at this point. :)
Gotta wonder one thing, KJ, about your reverse "coming outa" yarn: "Why tell us now?"
If your aim in creating a gay online persona was to deter snoops from the casino from finding out real info about you, why stop now?
One would think you'd want to keep up the charade, at least if it was working.
Now that the casinos know the truth their net will most likely descend upon you a bit sooner, yes?
You faked your death before; now if you're being truthful (and who the hell can tell anymore?) you faked your life as well.
A shadow puppet.
I don't think I have asked anybody to believe anything "just because I said so".Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
It is my belief that people can and should be able to figure out who knows what they are talking about and who is just talking. To do that you certainly have to be able to separate out the personal stuff and attacks and trolling and just focus on what the person says in reference to their gambling experiences. This is an extention of the ability to read people, while often attributed as a poker quality, a very necessary thing for all AP's.
I think the mistake I have made with my "doesn't take all that much to figure out" thinking, is failing to realize that some people go into the process with a bias. In this case about sexuality or perceived sexuality, but doesn't really matter what it is. Could just as easily be political positions, race, or any number of things. So someone going in with a bias of not liking someone, is probably going to fail at the "doesn't take that much to see" test, because they will undoubtedly see what they want to see.
See, I tend to look at it if people haven't figured out that I know what I am talking about after all this time, after the blackhole exhibition, I just tend to think they are an idiot. I guess failed to recognize that there are definitely some people beyond any point of objectivity. Anyway, whatever. Think what you like.
Not quite sure just WHAT to think.
Your opening statement was "I don't think I have asked anybody to believe anything "just because I said so"."
That is a pile of bullshit and you know it.
For years, literally, you told us how you like to suck dick, that you weren't a bottom, etc.: lots of seemingly personal info posted by you ostensibly about you, and now you say we shouldn't believe you "Just because I said so?"
Does not compute: we ALL say / post post things about ourselves and the obvious reason for doing so is we wish to be believed.
You're worse than the boy who cried wolf; you're more like the guy below in the Rollins Band ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaysTVcounI
V, you are obsessed with the sex stuff. Always have been. ;) Not homophobically, like the hater group obsessed, just fascination obsessed.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
But in your post you ask the real question: Why would a professional blackjack player who managed to stay a step ahead for 12 years reveal all that? 3 letters? WHY?
KJ, I mentioned the sex stuff because it is an example of the ostensibly very personal info about yourself that you posted.
But yeah: WHY?
Surely you must realize that this latest admission puts your credibility level well below the horizon?
Hope it was worth it.
It is almost like Kewl decided he was sorta winning the war with Rob and somehow needed to fuck it up for himself with nonsense.
Obviously whoever kewl is, he needs attention more than anything. His AP talk works, people listen to him and respect him. It is all the sort of stuff you pick up reading forums and books. Oh there was a table play.. then it goes away before anyone knows about it but kewl knew ;) The AP he is that doesn't network or need to network SOMEHOW knew about this play that no other seasoned AP has hinted at knowing? Just endless stuff which none can be verified.
Whatever. It is fun playing sleuth.
I just don't know who the, 'Gay,' thing is supposedly throwing off. Is the idea that casinos would assume that this person would be a, "Flamboyantly," gay card counter?
Like, you're going to have the casinos so busy looking for flamboyantly gay card counters (even though nothing that you have ever said would point to you being flamboyant) that they're going to miss all the straight ones?
Honestly, I just don't completely understand your motivations for (as you now claim) lying about that. I'd automatically kind of figured anything about physical appearance (not that I ever remember you even saying anything) would be automatically untrue, of course. It just seems to me that being gay wouldn't even be relevant from the standpoint of the casinos. Do you think the casinos are looking for someone like Nathan Lane's character stepping directly out of The Birdcage? My limited experience with gay people is that, most of the time, you wouldn't even know if they didn't tell you...of course, that's not always true and is sometimes very untrue.
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Originally Posted by MisterV
You still don't seem to be able to separate out the personal trolling shit from discussion that exhibit one's knowledge about what they do and how they do it. On this forum we have trolling and personal attacks. Wasn't there a long running discussion about the size of someone's dick? These things are sperate from legit gambling discussions. I mean actually I have argued all that crap shouldn't be here, but the argument has always fallen on deaf ears. So that leaves people to separate it out.
I'll give you two examples:
Mickeycrimm. For years mickey was one of the more active trolls against Rob Singer, before their new "bonding". Mickey said some of the nastiest (much of it true) crap about Singer. And still does about some others. None of that means a damn thing when it comes to mickey being the machine Ap that he is. If you separate the two out, there is no doubt based on the discussions of AP.
example #2. Probably 3 or 4 pages back in The Las Vegas section (I am not going to link to it, just remind you) there is a 20 page thread entitled "kewlj, blackjack myth, fact or fiction" or something close to it, started by blackhole last year. If you read that thread, blackhole attempts to discredit everything I ever said about blackjack and I answer each and every one of those attempts with precise information explaining everything I do, how and why I do it. Mickeycrim, who as I said, isn't exactly a fan of mine these days called it a blackjack card counting clinic.
V, because this forum has all the other stuff, you have to separate out the real stuff from the "fluff". If you have read everything, even anything I have written over the years and shared about blackjack card counting, how I apply different techniques and why and you come away finding me not credible as you just stated....well really, I don't even know what to say. But you aren't separating out the two....lets put it that way.
I hope Blackhole is doing well and, if he still reads here, would like him to send me a PM on DiversityTomorrow and I'd give him a call and shoot the shit if he ever wanted to. It's a shame that he was Nuked from here at the exact time that his posts were becoming highly interesting.
Whatever you say, KJ, whatever you say.
The gay "thing" was only one characteristic of the whole thing. I have dropped dates that indicate my age. That 5'9", 160 lbs description that Ozzy keeps repeating, that he thinks he stumbled on....where did that come from? I have mentioned it along with that I was within 5 lbs of my weight in high school when I played baseball at 150 lbs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mission146
People didn't come up with these things. I planted these things. And guess what, I am NOT 5'9", 155-160 lbs, blond hair blue eyes. Nor am I the age I planted. You put that all together with the gay characteristic and anyone looking for me, casino industry people as well as these trolls, which really wasn't part of the plan, where looking for a ghost.
And here is another thing. I went to and graduated college. I am not going to say where although I believe I have mentioned what my favorite college sports team is in some sports threads. :rolleyes:
3 things I received from my father. Pretty good genes. His good name. And the ability to go to college because as a federal employee killed on the job, that is a benefit to surviving children.
So the gay thing was just a small piece. I presented a disguise of who I am, so that I could share some of my blackjack experiences almost in real time without danger.
Nonsense.
You made it up because you enjoy that sort of shit.
Whether you suck dick or eat pussy makes no difference at a BJ table.
I mean, I guess, but I don't really see what the difference is between BEING a ghost and giving them a ghost to chase. Put another way, I don't really see any advantageous difference between lying and simply not saying anything at all when it comes to sexuality, background or physical appearance. The casinos analyzing your play, for example, don't know or care if you went to college or where.
I don't remember you ever saying anything about your physical appearance (not the sort of thing I'd remember), but again, I would have assumed any physical description is untrue. I could have swore you said you were around my height once (6'3") but that could be faulty memory.
Well, were you or not ever homeless as a kid? Never mind. I'm not going to really believe any answer and it doesn't matter anyway. That, working Atlantic City in your early years, etc. etc...could be true or untrue, but I guess that was always kind of the case.
Anyway, I still don't see how certain aspects of the misinformation are at all helpful to you, but you do you. I'm not saying that you would do well to put EVERYTHING out there with 100% accuracy; I just don't see the difference between giving intentional misinformation and saying nothing at all as to certain matters.
Pretty ironic - when he posted insults he was tolerated, but as soon as he started posting great insights into the horse racing biz he was banned. Thanks Dan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mission146
Look, I honestly don't give a fuck about Rob. I really don't. The Rob thing ended when MaxPen exposed him. I like to think I helped a little, but it was mostly MaxPen. And then Rob panicked, did the interview with Wizard where he was asked for proof of the RV which he said he spent the money on, forcing Rob into the great RV showroom picture fiasco. The panic move of all time. After that I am just playing with Rob. Having a little fun with the troll.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
As for this play that I knew that no one else did. The play was shutdown when just about every table game AP in the area showed up fighting for a seat. :D How can you say others didn't know. I know faces. I don't know screen names or if they are on this forum.
And the AP that gave me that play: I assume everyone knows who he is. My only AP friend (well 1 of 2) that I have met. Friend probably is a little strong a word. We did business 4-5 years ago when I sold him the shuffle machine I had acquired at cost. He promised to throw me a couple small plays. The first play he gave was practically dead when he gave it to me. I got very little from it. This one he thought would last a couple days. I got lucky and we got much more out of it. Probably will be the last play he gives me. But again, I assume some AP's know who he is and can ask him if they feel the need.
Limited Experience??Quote:
Originally Posted by Mission146
Your sister is queer.
You have more than a limited amount of experience with gay people.
Aren't you the guy in the Hotel Business who has seen every sort and knows all about different types of people??
Make up your mind.
Stop flip flopping like QueerJ.
Not exactly true.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
Dan had been warning Blackhole for a long time about his trolling.
Blackhole couldn't stop posting an annoying violin youtube video even after he was warned about it.
I may or may not have pushed Blackhole into being more aggressive with his agitating Dan Druff.
Let's hope he's now dead!Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayPretty ironic - when he posted insults he was tolerated, but as soon as he started posting great insights into the horse racing biz he was banned. Thanks Dan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mission146
Wishing death onto people is Pure Evil.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbjb
I'd still say limited experience. I've certainly never been gay and I've only had a few gay acquaintances. Basically, my sister, any girlfriends she has had, my fiancee's brother, his boyfriend and I've had a handful of personal friends that were either homosexual men or homosexual women. As far as personal friends, one of my better friends at the first college I attended was a gay dude and, at the second college, I was friends (but not particularly close friends) with one gay dude and I worked with another at the furniture store and would sometimes grab a bite to eat with him outside of work hours.Quote:
Originally Posted by monetLimited Experience??Quote:
Originally Posted by Mission146
Your sister is queer.
You have more than a limited amount of experience with gay people.
Aren't you the guy in the Hotel Business who has seen every sort and knows all about different types of people??
Make up your mind.
Stop flip flopping like QueerJ.
I had several bisexual female friends, but it seems just about every other female between the ages of 16-25 claimed to be bisexual around that time, don't know if that's still true, so who the hell knows if they still are. Aside from that, I had one pretty good friend who was 100% lesbian...and you would basically come to that conclusion just to look at her...we'd often watch NFL in the bar and yell at the TV together when I was younger.
My point is that I don't have any great amount of insight and didn't want to make it sound like I deeply understand gay culture, because I don't. I just treat/befriend gay people the same as I would straight people.
Why? His horse racing stories were really cool and it's just as likely he's a pretty okay guy otherwise. I think most people are playing some sort of caricature of themselves on the forums.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbjbLet's hope he's now dead!Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayPretty ironic - when he posted insults he was tolerated, but as soon as he started posting great insights into the horse racing biz he was banned. Thanks Dan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mission146
Good!Quote:
Originally Posted by monetWishing death onto people is Pure Evil.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbjb
lolQuote:
Originally Posted by jbjb
Your response made me really laugh out loud.
Still laughing actually.
I don't give a shit about horse racing. In fact, I say put the horse on the jockey and whip the shit out of that midget instead!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mission146Why? His horse racing stories were really cool and it's just as likely he's a pretty okay guy otherwise. I think most people are playing some sort of caricature of themselves on the forums.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbjbLet's hope he's now dead!Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
Again, you leave no way to validate it. "You know faces". I mean whatever, but it could just as well be utter nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Well if no one happens to know this guy who you sold the shuffle machine to, then it is another meaningless example.
Oh shit... you're on a roll!Quote:
Originally Posted by jbjb
The shuffle machine bullshit is just that, bullshit. Aftermarket shufflers ARE NOT the same thing as the ones from the legitimate manufacturers.
Bored today.Quote:
Originally Posted by monetOh shit... you're on a roll!Quote:
Originally Posted by jbjb
Was Not an aftermarket shuffler. I am sure you know the guy we are talking about...ask him.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbjb
By the way it crossed my mind that you and your "guys" were involved in the killing of the play mentioned. But I don't think it is something you would chase. Too small. Now the other guy on these forums that runs teams (not darkoz), while I didn't see that guy on that final day, I would be willing to bet 1 or 2 of the AP's that suddenly became aware were associated with him. It's funny, for 2 solid weeks it was my brother and I. Then 1 other guy shows up, the next day 2 guys and then a table full of guys. It was somebody's team. :rolleyes:
Haven't played any table games in a long time. Nothing to do with me
Do you have any clue who this after market shuffler guy is that Kewl references?Quote:
Originally Posted by jbjb
Shufflemaster, etc., don't release or sell these machines to the public. Anyone that says they've had one is a liar.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionDo you have any clue who this after market shuffler guy is that Kewl references?Quote:
Originally Posted by jbjb
Response deleted. I don't even want to get into this discussion again.
Fair enough Monet - you have a better recollection of it than I. What stuck in my mind was when Dan wrote that he would cut people slack regarding forum behavior if they were also posting useful content - however "useful" is a subjective term, and in Dan's mind it seems that the bad outweighed the good or, in other words, "too little too late" I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by monetNot exactly true.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
Dan had been warning Blackhole for a long time about his trolling.
Blackhole couldn't stop posting an annoying violin youtube video even after he was warned about it.
I may or may not have pushed Blackhole into being more aggressive with his agitating Dan Druff.
Don't get me wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
I never had a problem with Blackhole.
I don't think anyone should get banned.
However, this site is very difficult to get banned from.
You really have to want to get banned... really want it!
And you have to work at it like no tomorrow to get banned.
I mean you really have to push extremely hard.
This place isn't like WoV where they ban or suspend you in a heartbeat.
Dan brought back Rob Singer.
I'm sure that Blackhole could be reinstated if he begged like kewlJ begged Mike at WoV.
Of course that took 4 years of begging didn't it??
I forget how many years exactly and how many blow jobs but you get the point.
Actually I think it took Covid and his Gay Lover dying to break Mike into lifting his ban.
Now Mike has more Egg on his Face since kewlJ isn't queer nor did he have a Gay Lover according to new information provided by Spiderman.
Tough to keep up with these Forum Phonies and the webs they weave.
Who is this Mike person you keep mentioning? Mike Hunt ?Quote:
Originally Posted by monetDon't get me wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
I never had a problem with Blackhole.
I don't think anyone should get banned.
However, this site is very difficult to get banned from.
You really have to want to get banned... really want it!
And you have to work at it like no tomorrow to get banned.
I mean you really have to push extremely hard.
This place isn't like WoV where they ban or suspend you in a heartbeat.
Dan brought back Rob Singer.
I'm sure that Blackhole could be reinstated if he begged like kewlJ begged Mike at WoV.
Of course that took 4 years of begging didn't it??
I forget how many years exactly and how many blow jobs but you get the point.
Actually I think it took Covid and his Gay Lover dying to break Mike into lifting his ban.
Now Mike has more Egg on his Face since kewlJ isn't queer nor did he have a Gay Lover according to new information provided by Spiderman.
Tough to keep up with these Forum Phonies and the webs they weave.
Say that 3 times fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozzy
(I forgot that you like to refer to him as Rusty)
Rusty, Manboy, Weasel, Shank etcQuote:
Originally Posted by monetSay that 3 times fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozzy
(I forgot that you like to refer to him as Rusty)
So I am supposed to verify who I am, my description, my address, my sexuality, what other AP's I know and do business with? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
Seriously, you people are out of your mind and now on some kind of weird witch hunt. I am an active advantage player and as such can and will do whatever I deem necessary to protect myself, my anonymity and career. Anyone who doesn't understand that, doesn't understand what advantage play is all about.
There is a reason fewer and fewer AP's participate here or any forum that isn't private, hidden from public view and protected from non AP's. I am sensing it is that time for me.
As justification for why I am entitled to do whatever necessary to protect myself and my career, you need look no further that two members, not here, but both previous members here, at a forum where they mirror and repeat everything said here word for word, colluded to post information on multiple forums that they believed was who I am and where I lived, posting this information all over the internet using sockpuppets and private messages.
Now some of you may counter that I have doxxed one of those people, a guy making claims that can't be. I did! This person is not an AP, isn't hiding his play from casinos, but claims he is welcome even though winning 100's of thousands of dollars. So not the same this. The ONLY reason this guy isn't using his real name is so people on the forums can't look into his claims themselves. This person and his claims are more in line with someone like Christopher Mitchell, this Mikki guy, the Blackjack Army Guy Morganstern...those kind of people and should be named. It is you he is hiding from, not the casinos.
You can do whatever you want, but it has called into question everything you've said in the past. If you know mutual people - then tell jbjb or something and have jbjb acknowledge it.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJSo I am supposed to verify who I am, my description, my address, my sexuality, what other AP's I know and do business with? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
Seriously, you people are out of your mind and now on some kind of weird witch hunt. I am an active advantage player and as such can and will do whatever I deem necessary to protect myself, my anonymity and career. Anyone who doesn't understand that, doesn't understand what advantage play is all about.
There is a reason fewer and fewer AP's participate here or any forum that isn't private, hidden from public view and protected from non AP's. I am sensing it is that time for me.
As justification for why I am entitled to do whatever necessary to protect myself and my career, you need look no further that two members, not here, but both previous members here, at a forum where they mirror and repeat everything said here word for word, colluded to post information on multiple forums that they believed was who I am and where I lived, posting this information all over the internet using sockpuppets and private messages.
Now some of you may counter that I have doxxed one of those people, a guy making claims that can't be. I did! This person is not an AP, isn't hiding his play from casinos, but claims he is welcome even though winning 100's of thousands of dollars. So not the same this. The ONLY reason this guy isn't using his real name is so people on the forums can't look into his claims themselves. This person and his claims are more in line with someone like Christopher Mitchell, this Mikki guy, the Blackjack Army Guy Morganstern...those kind of people and should be named. It is you he is hiding from, not the casinos.
If jbjb says "Yea, I asked this person and they did buy this shufflemaster from you"..ok. but this NEVER has happened. All I want is like one verification from someone who is a known person. Mickey Crimm uhh did not like me to the extent he threatened to shoot me at some point. When I saw a person in the casino I suspected was him, I still introduced myself. It was a good time chatting with Mickey. Love old-timers. I showed him a few things given it was my home casino. You don't have any stories like that. "You know, a mutual person you probably know - ask him". What a bs answer when you could vaguely reference hte person directly *IF* they actually exist.
I mean, I guess no one else cares but I have this ego thing where I'm curious if my hunch turned out to actually be true. I'm trying to have you prove me wrong... that'd be the simplest way, but it has never happened. All that happens is these other guys you've convinced of something say you're legitimate.. but it all seems to be because they've bought into your internet persona and not from any sort of firsthand knowledge.
People come to believe all sorts of shit and once they've bought in, they become extra hard to convince otherwise.
Anyway, you keep trying this misdirection stuff. I really never gave a shit about your sexual identity, name, address or any of that. I just want to know if you're a real person who is basically what you have claimed or if this is all a big effort to somehow catfish a community in an effort for you to receive attention.
lol anyway, while we're at it mdawg dm'd me on here with a link to GF. Kinda funny..I don't think I'd ever visited that site but it seemed kinda dead when I clicked on one subforum.
And I really do understand what advantage is about, and it is NOT about acting gay when you're not for years on an online forum. Likewise, if you are gay all at once trying to throw people off by same thing is equally ridiculous. All your misdirection ... all seems like cover for bullshit.
I mean even your AP story is designed to be as bland as possible. That might be the reaoson for your longetivity but it might also be so your bullshit has believability.
It sounds like you have decided I am on trial and need to prove something to you. I don't request that from those that I doubt and would never consent to that.
Nor would I participate somewhere where that is required or it is required that someone vouch for you. There are a couple people that I think could vouch for me. (based on private discussion) but I would never ask them to. One I am not sure if he is still here or not. Been a while since I have seen him logged in. Doesn't matter. Like I said, I would never ask that of anyone and I think you an AP demanding that of another AP is out of line. But I really don't care anymore.
You don't have to prove.. just like uhm give one verifiable thing that isn't just some story from you.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Nothing is required from anyone. This is just more misdirection from you. You put yourself out there as many things. Longterm LV blackjack counter or guy just totally full of shit. I'm curious which is true.
Literally, your story is something anyone who cares enough could figure out via books and reading the internet. While I find your stuff interesting to read, you've never said anything interesting except for some story you told me in private. I believed it but now I wonder if I wasn't just fed bullshit. At the time I thought you were a legitimate person and have taken things from that convo as true. I now believe this was a mistake.
No one needs to vouch for you .. that would suggest something else. Vouching typically means you're good to do business with. Thats far beyond what i want. I'm just wanting someone who knows someone who has done business with you period. Anyone that can verify anything you've ever said. Nothing.. all vague coming from you, yet you live and breath this persona on the internet while living and working in the most AP infested place possible.
I am a SOLO card counter. I realize that is a bit of a dying breed. But I have no desire or need to meet many other APs. I have met a few, very few but only if there is a reason to.
I am tired of this though. Having apparently been voted off the island, I am happy to exit and fine with this result.
You can keep repeating that, but you're still coming onto forums to be part of the gambling culture more than any.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
I talk about all sorts of random shit. Politics etc.
You? All gambling or proving other people like Rob Singer are wrong. All the real APs don't really seem to give that much of a shit but clown on him for lolz. For you it is personal. Like he is somehow getting more attention than you.....................
So yea, I get you play solo but everything else suggests you'd have met someone somewhere along the way. But I guess you are known to live in LV at least. Whatever.. I can't keep up. Apparently at one point you faked your death. None of that matters - I just want to know if you are a legitimate AP and if the stuff like what you told me in private is a story I can extrapolate from or would I be far more wise to just dismiss it outright.
You literally don't even have much of a personality outside of attacking Rob Singer for being fake. It is all gambling speak. Demonstrating your knowledge of gambling, etc. Most other people are just loling it up even the serious AP aren't particularly commenting on strictly gambling stuff. But if we're to believe you, you are 100% about gambling (at least when on this forum..) .. Like, what drives you to interact this way then never meet anyone? You do everything you can to get respect as a gambler on this forum. You went after mdawg. I mean, clearly the guy is full of shit on his winning.. but ultimately who cares so much? ANd if they do, why are they so threatened?
silliness all around.
I think that you either don't or are refusing to understand the point that I am making. As far as I am concerned, you don't have to verify any of that stuff and I don't really care whether or not you do---but what I fail to comprehend is the need to lie about almost every aspect of your life to include those that wouldn't matter to the casinos anyway. If you want to protect your anonymity, then all you have to do is not say anything about most things.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
IOW, casinos maybe looking for a gay card counter fitting a fake description doesn't, in my opinion, make them any less likely to analyze your play. How would it? The gay card counter persona is not the only card counter in the world, so giving them misinformation on one individual card counter doesn't mean they have stopped looking for other card counters.
What, you guys think Discord is impenetrable?Quote:
There is a reason fewer and fewer AP's participate here or any forum that isn't private, hidden from public view and protected from non AP's. I am sensing it is that time for me.
They put together what they put together based on all of the stuff you said, it would seem. Had you not said anything along those kind of lines, then there wouldn't be anything to try to put together. That's pretty much my entire point---if the only goal is anonymity, then there's really no difference between lying about everything and just not saying anything about certain matters.Quote:
As justification for why I am entitled to do whatever necessary to protect myself and my career, you need look no further that two members, not here, but both previous members here, at a forum where they mirror and repeat everything said here word for word, colluded to post information on multiple forums that they believed was who I am and where I lived, posting this information all over the internet using sockpuppets and private messages.
Why do you keep defending this? The fact that he's not an AP doesn't give you rights. There are forums that have nothing to do with gambling where almost all participants use a handle. Why? Because there are nut jobs out there who will reveal all of your personal information because they don't like something that you said on the internet. In the case of Facebook, there are people who will call your employer (if traditionally employed) and try to get you fired for saying something that they don't like.Quote:
Now some of you may counter that I have doxxed one of those people, a guy making claims that can't be. I did! This person is not an AP, isn't hiding his play from casinos, but claims he is welcome even though winning 100's of thousands of dollars. So not the same this. The ONLY reason this guy isn't using his real name is so people on the forums can't look into his claims themselves. This person and his claims are more in line with someone like Christopher Mitchell, this Mikki guy, the Blackjack Army Guy Morganstern...those kind of people and should be named. It is you he is hiding from, not the casinos.
Anyway, "This person," is also not selling anything. Oh yeah, this person also didn't lie about everything in his entire background for a decade or more.
Ironically, MDawg is actually much more of a verified real person than you are based on what you have now said. He was technically more verified before that, but you had a very long history that gave you some credibility on the forums. Now, you've lied about everything. Convincingly. I have to be honest, I'm still leaning more yes than no...and not that it matters...but you actually being a card counter is much closer to being a coin flip in my mind. Why should I believe anything a person says who has supposedly lied about literally everything except for that because...reasons? MDawg is definitely a high-rolling player.
Kew is hardly a mystery, especially when the only poster anywhere trying his tortured best to support him is the forums-weirdo: redietz.
It stands to reason that any AP worth his salt would NEVER spend so much time on so many forums trying to sell his brand by constantly talking about himself from all angles. It's nothing but a cry-out for attention and relevance, simply because of a serious deficiency in what the rest of us call a real life. His concocted online life was created for the sole purpose of compensating for his lifelong success-void.
Kew's self-debunked and very silly claims of "I only joined forums to share experiences and knowledge with other AP's" is easily the No.1 lie in forum history. He's here for drama-creation/stimulation and to try and impress others with his concoction because his real life is such a dismal failure. It is as clear as day.
The longer he stays and the more he posts, the more foolish he looks. AP's just don't do these things. Which brings us to his character and temperament: Has anyone ever heard of read about a self-proclaimed "under the radar" card-counter who hasn't the discipline to just shut-up and push thru the rough patches, who goes on essay-level rants when people question or disbelieve his BS, who is so easily baited by direct-hit posts, and who is completely incapable of ever doing what he said he would do?
Now that ALL ELSE has failed, he gives us "digital camouflage" or whatever he calls it.
What an idiot....but he's an ENTERTAINING one!
If KJ was lying about being gay it was a very elaborate lie carried on for years and garnished with many stories of being gay.
But, but, but, but, was he lying about being gay then or lying about being straight now?
Or is he Transgender, non-binary, cisgender, genderfluid, assigned female at birth, butch, demigender and his pronouns are they/them?
And what is the purpose of his "coming out" now? Why would he blow his cover if that's what it was?
What's he up to? That is the question.
And oh yes. We have a fraudster thats been calling others fraudsters for quite awhile. WTF?
Who knows or cares? What difference does it make when you're going to come on here after 10+ years and say that almost everything you have ever said (except, he claims, the card counting parts) has been a total fabrication?Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
For all we know, he'll come on here three days from now and say that his saying everything was a lie was the lie and this is all some sort of forum social experiment, or some bullshit like that.
Anyway, I'm not into any stupid and pointless childish games, so I no longer care what is true or what isn't. I'm not inclined really to believe that KewlJ is lying or telling the truth because, quite frankly, I really don't care at all about anything that he says anymore. It's not entirely his fault, of course. I'm the moke who was stupid enough to believe that people would tell the truth about things that there's no reason to lie about.
I honestly wanted KewlJ to be about more than Forum drama, but I think something legitimately snapped when he was banned from WoV for however long. I'm not saying that he's not a card counter, but what I am saying is that manufacturing/continuing forum drama...even though there are only, like, 100 participants across all forums...seems to be life priority #1.
I'm sure Mr 2 posts from 2 thousand, can vouch for you if he can put down the joint he's smoking for a minute or two :)Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
LOL once again at Marathon Man not caring ! You're guesstimate of 100 active participants across all 4 forums is pretty accurate, as long as you don't count all the socks/dupes and all the phonies/bots at GF and wise guys like Mleus !Quote:
Originally Posted by Mission146Who knows or cares? What difference does it make when you're going to come on here after 10+ years and say that almost everything you have ever said (except, he claims, the card counting parts) has been a total fabrication?Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
For all we know, he'll come on here three days from now and say that his saying everything was a lie was the lie and this is all some sort of forum social experiment, or some bullshit like that.
Anyway, I'm not into any stupid and pointless childish games, so I no longer care what is true or what isn't. I'm not inclined really to believe that KewlJ is lying or telling the truth because, quite frankly, I really don't care at all about anything that he says anymore. It's not entirely his fault, of course. I'm the moke who was stupid enough to believe that people would tell the truth about things that there's no reason to lie about.
I honestly wanted KewlJ to be about more than Forum drama, but I think something legitimately snapped when he was banned from WoV for however long. I'm not saying that he's not a card counter, but what I am saying is that manufacturing/continuing forum drama...even though there are only, like, 100 participants across all forums...seems to be life priority #1.
You care enough to write essays on the subject.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mission146
I believe jbjb when he says he doesn't care.
Well, both of you are assholes. LOL
I don't care about what is true or untrue, or what gets said, in the future. I care about the fact that I was duped into caring about a person as a friend and hoping things go well for that person for the better part of a decade when everything that they have ever said (except maybe the card counting) is probably totally untrue. He claims still to have a partner that died, but why would I believe that? When you're lying about trivial things where there is no real benefit to the lie, then what should be believed?
The point is that I never met him, but KewlJ was a person to me who I wanted to see succeed and do well. Now, KewlJ is just a handle and, as far as I am concerned, one that is just as random as someone making their first ever post.
Oh that's bullshit!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozzy
You beat to the punch yet again.
Nicely Done.
Through all of this, kewl has never once suggested how he might be verified as a legitimate AP. He craved it endlessly online but just can't do one thing to verify it in real life. (so far)
The thing about Rob Singer is he has thick skin. He loves this shit. I'd say he doesn't pretend to be a real AP, but I guess he does. Who else has machines telepath to them? I have no desire to rip Kewl apart but people need to know. I don't like being told nonsensical fairytale bullshit.
If he is really an AP he'll be fine and it'll do him some good to log the fuck off. If he isn't an AP, well sorry I ruined his outlet in life but he really shouldn't be bsing people like he has.
In the end, he has been given many chances to somehow demonstrate himself to someone who has proven themselves to not be a psycho anti-AP type but it has never happened. When he references a mutual party, he did it in a way that only suggests that he believes this person might exist. The person he sold the machine too.. surely he could describe him in some way.
That goes to another thing. Where in the fuck on the internet are people selling bootleg shufflemasters? The darkweb? lolol. Surely some site that doesn't exist anymore... I mean, show us this site and it'd be enough for me, kewl.
In the end, Kewl has just went on the defensive and tried to mislead what I've suggested he provide. I never wanted him to prove anything. I have nothing personal against the guy. He seems nice enough. I just want him to show a shred of credible evidence that doesn't rely on him having convinced other BOZos etc.
I don't know if Rob pretends to be, did the DUB or just pretends to be someone pretending to be. The thing about the RV, "Evidence," is that the evidence was so ridiculous that someone smart enough to write a coherent sentence, which Rob certainly is, has to know that the evidence presented was totally ridiculous...but then he goes on talking about it as if it wasn't.
IOW, Rob's MO...regardless of what is or is not actually true...is strictly just fucking around with people, at this point. Besides, he's funny.
Who gives a fuck what KewlJ does or doesn't show? I'll just assume everything that he says from this point forward is a lie and that's good enough for me. If he deems it necessary to prove otherwise, then he is free to do that, but I don't really give a fuck if he does or not.
UNKOOL1 integrity is just above the basement dweller, the worst of the worst, Rusty the Manboy Weasel Shankleford. Absolutely pathetic, even for someone as UNKOOL as he is !
Maybe he just wants to stop spending so much time on the forums, but can't figure out a way to make himself do that, unless he burns it down. I don't know. There's no question that he's completely obsessive when it comes to this forum stuff, regardless of what else is or isn't true.