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Axelwolf has reading issues, not that there's anything wrong with that. I'm more concerned with his memory issues, which (rumor has it) may be alcohol related, not that there's anything wrong with that, either.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
I'll dig up the Wayback link. I still own the website name, by the way. I think this will get you there:
http://web.archive.org/web/200304231...itysports.com/
I'm 100% sober,.I don't drink at home, I don't drink daily, I don't drink weekly it just depends on the situation and what I'm doing. I might go for weeks without having a drink. Sometimes I might have only one or 2, and sometimes I might drink all night. I have drank since Supebowl Sunday.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzQuote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfI don't know what all those guys are really doing. Let me give a little insight and something to think about. This isn't directed any anyone in particular.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Let's start off with the fact that people feen (is it phene or feen?) for sports betting, especially so with guys who have money to burn(think young cocky guy working on wall street.)
Those guys are always looking for someone or some service that has "good picks" whoever is the flavor of the month. They will even pay a shit ton for tout services(OFC, that's nothing compared to the amounts they are betting)
Now we have a bunch of handicappers/sports bettors/ whatever who are entering contests, making picks, etc. Some with legit skil,l some not so much. But, at some point, a few people gonna run hot as fuck. Word travels fast and the next thing you know people are beating their doors down and feening to get in on the action. Suddenly all kinds of sweet deals and offers are being made. Big backers are offering free rolls, apps, websites, affiliates, tout services etc, too good to pass up. We won't know what's really going on with all that, it's usually kept quiet.
Whatever the case, some of those guys become infallible and legendary, they can do no wrong, and even when they run bad and things start to average out. People remember all the winning, everything else is just bad luck, so there's always money coming in somewhere.
There's nothing wrong with all that, people got to make a living.
IIRC RED's site touted their goal for investors was 10-12% returns in NFL alone. Who the Fuck would need or want investors if you can make 10-12% on NFL? Now just imagine if you're even better at college Football. Anyone with a legitimate long-term 5% + edge in major sports handicapping should be filthy rich since the amount of action you can get in is huge and the venues are plentiful.
Axelwolf, you clearly have no idea what 10-12% return means. Have you no bank accounts? That is so weird. It really is.
It means if you start in September with 100K, the goal is to finish December with 110-112K. That is the normal American definition of 10-12% return.
A 10-12% return goal has nothing to do with having a 10-12% edge. Can you read? Have you ever talked to a financial advisor or sat down in a bank?
The reading comprehension is mind-blowing.
And "IIRC" is great unless you don't recall it correctly. LOL. You got it wrong, as in completely wrong.
I have to think this is all trolling, especially since the website snapshot was from the early 90's.
Now I have a serious question, Axelwolf. Did you drink alcohol before posting? I can't imagine a sober Axelwolf could misinterpet 10-12% return as a 10-12% edge FOR EVERY SINGLE EVENT. How could anyone who ever set foot into a bank? Or anyone who seriously gambled?
There is something seriously wrong with someone who reads 10-12% return as meaning "for every single event." That is some brain-dead reading comprehension.
Unbelievable.
I read that days ago and did t even pay much attention.
I don't remember exactly what you were claiming.
Where did I say on every event. Explain why it matters what you start with. Are you saying if someone started with only 10k they would only make 1200 bucks? What if their betting units were just as big at the guy who started with 1000k?
Tell us, what was the person's average ev percentage per game, approximately how many games. If one had a 100k bankroll what was their average bet size per game?
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Originally Posted by AxelWolfI'm 100% sober,.I don't drink at home, I don't drink daily, I don't drink weekly it just depends on the situation and what I'm doing. I might go for weeks without having a drink. Sometimes I might have only one or 2, and sometimes I might drink all night. I have drank since Supebowl Sunday.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzQuote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
Axelwolf, you clearly have no idea what 10-12% return means. Have you no bank accounts? That is so weird. It really is.
It means if you start in September with 100K, the goal is to finish December with 110-112K. That is the normal American definition of 10-12% return.
A 10-12% return goal has nothing to do with having a 10-12% edge. Can you read? Have you ever talked to a financial advisor or sat down in a bank?
The reading comprehension is mind-blowing.
And "IIRC" is great unless you don't recall it correctly. LOL. You got it wrong, as in completely wrong.
I have to think this is all trolling, especially since the website snapshot was from the early 90's.
Now I have a serious question, Axelwolf. Did you drink alcohol before posting? I can't imagine a sober Axelwolf could misinterpet 10-12% return as a 10-12% edge FOR EVERY SINGLE EVENT. How could anyone who ever set foot into a bank? Or anyone who seriously gambled?
There is something seriously wrong with someone who reads 10-12% return as meaning "for every single event." That is some brain-dead reading comprehension.
Unbelievable.
I read that days ago and did t even pay much attention.
I don't remember exactly what you were claiming.
Where did I say on every event. Explain why it matters what you start with. Are you saying if someone started with only 10k they would only make 1200 bucks? What if their betting units were just as big at the guy who started with 1000k?
Tell us, what was the person's average ev percentage per game, approximately how many games. If one had a 100k bankroll what was their average bet size per game?
You completely misrepresented (in other words, lied about) everything on that site. You went on some ridiculous rant about somebody making 10-12% during a season being filthy rich.
All your questions can be found in "Tipsters or Gypsters?" -- McCusker did ROI tallies.
You flat-out lied about the site and what I was saying.
How about this -- you backtrack, apologize, actually read what's on the site, track down the old "Tipsters or Gypsters?" with the ROI analyses, and stop expecting me to tolerate your blatant, sloppy, lazy lies.
^^ His lie are not nearly as BLATANT as Chrissy Bloat Mitchell !
Are you complaining about the information found at the link you provided, and encouraged the members to visit?Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
What a fucking ditz...step away, already.
And tewlj...you are, as usual, a clueless moron.
Redietz is officially losing it. Hard to feel sorry for a man having a mental breakdown after he's put so much effort into sincerely mocking people.
Those mocked almost universally know more about gambling than some contest addict who seems to have missed out on the draftkings money printing era even when his skills supposedly are aligned. Instead here he is unable to pay his house's tax bill and doubling down. Oh he got one on Axel but he's forgotten the literal dozens of times someone has pointed out his nonsense and he has ignored it.
This is awesome. He goes off on everyone for being anonymous and not credible. Literally do a search for "tipsters or gypsters? mccusker" and all the entries are Redietz's forum posts !!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Yall, I shit you not.
Redietz: I am disappointed that you attacked Axelwolf in the manner you just did. :( I know attacking anyone that challenges any aspect of a claim or history, is the "go to" move on this forum. There is no need for that. If someone legit, and by that I mean not a troll, and Axelwolf is not, questions or challenges someone, or their claims, that person should be able to respond, and maybe clear up anything that is misunderstood, without immediately resorting to just personal attacks. When the first thing someone being challenged does is resort to personal attacks, it puts you in the same league as Singer and Mdawg. They have no other answers, so they attack and immediately try to discredit. I have always tried to respond to any challenges or questions about what I do very civilly, until it becomes clear the person is just trolling.
Moving on, thank you for the link. I understand this was 24 years ago. Were you in the business of selling picks and/or your service at that time? And if so, are you still in that business? It is not a crime if you are. I would just like a better understanding of what you do and how you have supported yourself via sports betting for decades. AND if you were, it still doesn't prove Singers claim that you solicited him. It is funny, that no other members on any forum have made that accused you of that. :confused: Actually, not funny, but telling.
It still feels to me, like this has turned into some sort of gang effort to discredit redietz. And all we have really gotten to the bottom of, is that some people really don't like him because he can be arrogant. I'll go back to what I said before: Anybody spend any time on a forum with James Grosjean? At times he comes across as an asshole, but that doesn't mean he isn't who he says and doesn't know of what he speaks....he does!
Another example: Michael Shackford. :rolleyes: Not much question he can be a real dick is there? I wouldn't want to spend any time with this person. But that doesn't mean he isn't a top gambling math guy or that anything he has claimed or said in regards to gambling isn't true.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Sometimes you have to separate out whether personal feeling. That alone is not a reason to try to discredit someone, despite that it occurs here on this forum all the time.
KewlJ, Axelwolf went on a completely misinformed rant and didn't even bother to check what he was writing against the site, based on his "IIRC." That's flat-out lying. Either look up and fully quote the material or tone down the rhetoric because you don't really remember what you read. Axelwolf got multiple things completely wrong -- I can't believe that it was an accident. If it was an accident, he's lazy beyond belief and irresponsible. How can a professional gambler conflate 10-12% return for four months with having a 10-12% edge? Answer -- he can't. So no, not an accident.
I get Axelwolf's game here. Not appreciated.
The sports handicapping is consulting, like any other consulting. I talked to people on the phone when they wanted to discuss games. Many came to me because of "Tipsters or Gypsters?" Increasing numbers moves, however, made that kind of consulting prehistoric and less effective. So I went to hands-on with me handling the money so our group could get the best numbers. I've worked on percent-of-profit for the last dozen years or so. Haven't taken on anyone new for 10 years; not looking to take on anyone new.
I only commented on that one thing on that site. I doubt I'm the only person who would think the same. I'm going to ask a few people to read that and ask them what they understand it to mean.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzQuote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfI'm 100% sober,.I don't drink at home, I don't drink daily, I don't drink weekly it just depends on the situation and what I'm doing. I might go for weeks without having a drink. Sometimes I might have only one or 2, and sometimes I might drink all night. I have drank since Supebowl Sunday.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
I read that days ago and did t even pay much attention.
I don't remember exactly what you were claiming.
Where did I say on every event. Explain why it matters what you start with. Are you saying if someone started with only 10k they would only make 1200 bucks? What if their betting units were just as big at the guy who started with 1000k?
Tell us, what was the person's average ev percentage per game, approximately how many games. If one had a 100k bankroll what was their average bet size per game?
You completely misrepresented (in other words, lied about) everything on that site. You went on some ridiculous rant about somebody making 10-12% during a season being filthy rich.
All your questions can be found in "Tipsters or Gypsters?" -- McCusker did ROI tallies.
You flat-out lied about the site and what I was saying.
How about this -- you backtrack, apologize, actually read what's on the site, track down the old "Tipsters or Gypsters?" with the ROI analyses, and stop expecting me to tolerate your blatant, sloppy, lazy lies.
IIRC means just that, it's a pre-admission I could be wrong.
I do honestly apologize for misinterpreting what was written and for not diving deeper or clarifying with you.
Can you kindly explain to me some of my questions or link to the appropriate page where it's explained?
Another question(s). If someone were to invest 200k why would they make 20k-24k and a 100k investor only make 10-12k?
I get how that works if you're investing in a business or something like that but I'm trying to understand how that worked within a sports betting business model. Did you just pool everyone's money and investors got the appropriate percentage based on their investment? How much money could you get down on those bets, was it basically unlimited? I ask because I see a situation where a limited amount of money can actually be bet leaving a situation where someone could overinvest more money than needed thus diluting smaller investors' percentages. For example, let's say I have a play that only requires a 10k bankroll and it's and I find an investor that invests 5k I decide I want a bigger percentage and then put up 200k.
What was your cut?
Did you also invest and put up your money with the same percentages and risk? How much per game on average was being bet?
It must not exist. I probably posted pages (with mickey's aid) in the Retro Road Trip thread using some kind of special effects magic. I guess Google conquers all.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionThis is awesome. He goes off on everyone for being anonymous and not credible. Literally do a search for "tipsters or gypsters? mccusker" and all the entries are Redietz's forum posts !!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Yall, I shit you not.
Of course, one of kewlJ's blackjack associates has a complete collection of "Tipsters or Gypsters?" A better collection than I do, actually. So maybe it actually existed.
Better check with Google.
Who? I only ask because I am not aware that I have any blackjack "associates". ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Wow...lazy beyond belief?Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
LOL...that's some Temple Grandin ranting right there.
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Originally Posted by AxelWolfI only commented on that one thing on that site. I doubt I'm the only person who would think the same. I'm going to ask a few people to read that and ask them what they understand it to mean.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzQuote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
You completely misrepresented (in other words, lied about) everything on that site. You went on some ridiculous rant about somebody making 10-12% during a season being filthy rich.
All your questions can be found in "Tipsters or Gypsters?" -- McCusker did ROI tallies.
You flat-out lied about the site and what I was saying.
How about this -- you backtrack, apologize, actually read what's on the site, track down the old "Tipsters or Gypsters?" with the ROI analyses, and stop expecting me to tolerate your blatant, sloppy, lazy lies.
IIRC means just that, it's a pre-admission I could be wrong.
I do honestly apologize for misinterpreting what was written and for not diving deeper or clarifying with you.
Can you kindly explain to me some of my questions or link to the appropriate page where it's explained?
Another question(s). If someone were to invest 200k why would they make 20k-24k and a 100k investor only make 10-12k?
I get how that works if you're investing in a business or something like that but I'm trying to understand how that worked within a sports betting business model. Did you just pool everyone's money and investors got the appropriate percentage based on their investment? How much money could you get down on those bets, was it basically unlimited? I ask because I see a situation where a limited amount of money can actually be bet leaving a situation where someone could overinvest more money than needed thus diluting smaller investors' percentages. For example, let's say I have a play that only requires a 10k bankroll and it's and I find an investor that invests 5k I decide I want a bigger percentage and then put up 200k.
What was your cut?
Did you also invest and put up your money with the same percentages and risk? How much per game on average was being bet?
Axelwolf, I have no motivation to be even semi-civil with you. So I'm not going to be.
Are you drunk? He made it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
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Originally Posted by kewlJWho? I only ask because I am not aware that I have any blackjack "associates". ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
The gentleman posting here under the Asian handle, who of course is not Asian. He has more issues than I do, back to the beginning of it, I think. I don't have the first couple issues. They pre-date my being monitored.
Oh, Kim Lee. He is an online friend or associate that I have benefited from networking with, but when you say "associate" I think more of a playing partner or teammate. That is what confused me. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by redietz
The fact that you expect anyone to spend any bit of energy beyond googling is a testament to your delusions.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzIt must not exist. I probably posted pages (with mickey's aid) in the Retro Road Trip thread using some kind of special effects magic. I guess Google conquers all.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionThis is awesome. He goes off on everyone for being anonymous and not credible. Literally do a search for "tipsters or gypsters? mccusker" and all the entries are Redietz's forum posts !!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Yall, I shit you not.
Of course, one of kewlJ's blackjack associates has a complete collection of "Tipsters or Gypsters?" A better collection than I do, actually. So maybe it actually existed.
Better check with Google.
Redietz time to nap it out or find a censored forum. This whole thing is beyond lubricous. You basically have the whole forum teaming up against how full of it you are in one way or another. I have no clue to what extent you've actually done what you claim but you really should just move along because WHATEVER it is you are trying to accomplish is not to be had. Diggin that hole deeper doesn't help any. There is no gold. There is no oil. Just crap on your face, brother.
It is a tag team affair. When people have time they all take a couple cracks at you. You? You just get angrier. Then the next guy shows up and takes a few more cracks at you. the whole thing cracks me up but I have a bit of a sadistic streak.
Instead of being a tout maybe ask this board about some angles and start grinding them.
Otherwise, good luck winning the battle.
dupe post. Whats iwth quick reply not working..
We just have to face the fact that redietz is delusional. Can you believe all that shit he pulled on axel? Arguing about what a 10 to 12% return means. That is classic ditz deflection. He doesn't want to deal with axel because axel blows to many holes in his arguments. And Ditz the Idiot also has no clue what he just did in that argument. No frickin' clue. He exposed his incompetence big time. No clue! He....he....he....wait for it....wait for it.....he....was telling potential investors on his website what the EXPECTED VALUE was for letting him make the bets. That 10% to 12% return he promised is nothing but pure out EXPECTED VALUE. He used the term "Return on Investment" but guess what, remove that term and insert EXPECTED VALUE and it means the same thing. Repeat same thing. Repeat same thing. You can't make this shit up.
Kew squirms at the reality of redietz soliciting me being true, but even that doesn't delve into the level of redietz' decades-long sports-betting bullshit. These frauds are all the same, whether they use the math or not. If they really know what they're doing and talking about, these fools would obviously just BET more instead of begging for other people's money. Fezzik gets no pass here either. Nice that red is exposing himself and finally confirming all that I've said here however.
I take it back I want redietz to stick around as this is literally the funniest thing in my life right now.
Redietz, Keep on fightin' the good fight.
I'm sorry to hear that. I know I ask some tougher legitimate questions hoping for answers in layman's terms. I have done so with you going way back.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzQuote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfI only commented on that one thing on that site. I doubt I'm the only person who would think the same. I'm going to ask a few people to read that and ask them what they understand it to mean.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
IIRC means just that, it's a pre-admission I could be wrong.
I do honestly apologize for misinterpreting what was written and for not diving deeper or clarifying with you.
Can you kindly explain to me some of my questions or link to the appropriate page where it's explained?
Another question(s). If someone were to invest 200k why would they make 20k-24k and a 100k investor only make 10-12k?
I get how that works if you're investing in a business or something like that but I'm trying to understand how that worked within a sports betting business model. Did you just pool everyone's money and investors got the appropriate percentage based on their investment? How much money could you get down on those bets, was it basically unlimited? I ask because I see a situation where a limited amount of money can actually be bet leaving a situation where someone could overinvest more money than needed thus diluting smaller investors' percentages. For example, let's say I have a play that only requires a 10k bankroll and it's and I find an investor that invests 5k I decide I want a bigger percentage and then put up 200k.
What was your cut?
Did you also invest and put up your money with the same percentages and risk? How much per game on average was being bet?
Axelwolf, I have no motivation to be even semi-civil with you. So I'm not going to be.
You can call it me being lazy if you want, but I too have no real motivation to dig deep to put together all the pieces. As I said before, I don't take any issues with you, I just take issues with the narrative that handicapping is the only sustainable way to beat sports and everything else is just a gimmick. Not to mention some of the other mind-boggling things you have said. I'm not sure why all that irked me so much, but it did.
As far as my motivation in even discussing this goes, I take issue with touts, non-legitimate services, system players, and that sort of thing, and that goes as far back as the early 1990s watching people I know get burned thinking there's value in handicapping or other BS gambling things.
I'm not the smartest guy on the block, not even close, but for some reason, at an early age, I understood when things didn't make sense or they defied simple math or statistics. When someone claims they have an advantage in sports betting, I want to understand the how, the what, and why. I would and have drilled/challenged friends and family who have come up with various things regarding sports betting and other gambling ideas.
I'm not saying you're a tout, non-legitimate service or system player. I just wanted an explanation of how and why your handicapping has value.
It's actually in my best interest to let people I don't know to believe in incorrect gambling information.
Whatever the case, I'm sorry I offended you to such a degree. I guess sometimes we forget there's a good person with feelings on the other side when making statements and arguments who are going to take things very personally.
I think you're an intelligent, and good guy with a significant amount of sports betting knowledge far greater than most. I wish you nothing but the best in all aspects of your life.
lul at most of you suckers in here arguing.
Don't you all need another booster??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1J5k-04xC4
And your masks do not work.
They never did!
The Cochrane Library Study proves it and Fauci actually messed up at first by telling us the Truth...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKIBRG56gL0
Perhaps not a·gainst covid, but masks worked, they definitely worked.Quote:
Originally Posted by monet
I'll be wearing a mask in casinos until it's so unusual to do so that it brings more attention than wanted.
You are arguing with a guy who is a Jimmy Dore fan. Although I guess maybe you're tongue in cheek.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfPerhaps not a·gainst covid, but masks worked, they definitely worked.Quote:
Originally Posted by monet
I'll be wearing a mask in casinos until it's so unusual to do so that it brings more attention than wanted.
Plenty of fakes in the influencer game but most at least stick to one side and don't fake both sides in one career. Dore is that kinda double-dippin' fake.
Monet you putz find a new thread. This one is about Redietz. We're still hoping to hear Bob on GWAE.
That time really has come and gone. The mandate was lifted here in Nevada about a year ago. For maybe 6 months, into last summer, I continued to wear a mask. As long as some others were doing so, especially a few dealers, it was very beneficial for me to do so. Once it got down to very few people still wearing, I stopped as it was likely to draw more attention at that point. These decisions had nothing to do with health reasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
And it so happens the benefits for me occurred at a very vulnerable time, following a somewhat devastating entry into several databases. The timing was as good as could have been for that situation.
In general, the whole covid thing, after casinos reopened in June 2020, was beneficial. For much of 2020, in addition to masks, pit critters were bogged down with additional covid related responsibilities. Several casinos, pit people actually had to run around and wipe down seats when players vacated. Couldn't have asked for anything better. :D
I'm still seeing a small percentage of patrons and employees wearing masks. I don't think wearing a mask is unusual enough for it to raise a big red flag. Perhaps it does while playing BJ.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJThat time really has come and gone. The mandate was lifted here in Nevada about a year ago. For maybe 6 months, into last summer, I continued to wear a mask. As long as some others were doing so, especially a few dealers, it was very beneficial for me to do so. Once it got down to very few people still wearing, I stopped as it was likely to draw more attention at that point. These decisions had nothing to do with health reasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
And it so happens the benefits for me occurred at a very vulnerable time, following a somewhat devastating entry into several databases. The timing was as good as could have been for that situation.
In general, the whole covid thing, after casinos reopened in June 2020, was beneficial. For much of 2020, in addition to masks, pit critters were bogged down with additional covid related responsibilities. Several casinos, pit people actually had to run around and wipe down seats when players vacated. Couldn't have asked for anything better. :D
Ask yourself, if and when you see someone wearing a mask does it make you think something suspicious, or do you just think they are a germaphobe, have a health condition, covid paranoid, pro masker holdouts? I don't wear them all the time in casinos, but there are times I do, probably 10% of the time.
I do know I had far fewer colds since the pandemic for whatever reason.
I did pick one up over this last Super Bowl weekend being around a bunch of people, lack of sleep, and extra drinking.
Not to hijack, but the mask issue makes me wonder: what can casino patrons do to try and avoid facial recognition software from identifying them, assuming they're in a database?
Im not arguing about the effectiveness against covid, I don't think masks were or are all that effective, especially not the cheap ass masks that everyone was wearing. Do/did they even have a small amount of protection against anything? I don't really know, it's not all that big of a deal to me. Wearing or not wearing masks didn't really change my life one way or the other. If I got covid, I was A-symptomatic. I got the shot and the follow-up booster at the very beginning, but that's it. I don't even get the flu shots even though my doctor highly recommends I do so.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionYou are arguing with a guy who is a Jimmy Dore fan. Although I guess maybe you're tongue in cheek.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfPerhaps not a·gainst covid, but masks worked, they definitely worked.Quote:
Originally Posted by monet
I'll be wearing a mask in casinos until it's so unusual to do so that it brings more attention than wanted.
Plenty of fakes in the influencer game but most at least stick to one side and don't fake both sides in one career. Dore is that kinda double-dippin' fake.
Monet you putz find a new thread. This one is about Redietz. We're still hoping to hear Bob on GWAE.
I have had the flu shot in the past once or twice. Masks and social distancing were implemented to get rid of lockdowns, no one actually cared if it worked or not just so long as there was an illusion that it would create some protection.
Forum Phonies like Scam Artist AxelWolf and QueerJ were so scared about the virus they thought it would go through their walls or plumbing and get them.
Both of them were on these forums spewing their hate towards the unmasked and unvaccinated.
As well they should have been concerned.Quote:
Originally Posted by monet
Infectious and virulent.
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Originally Posted by MisterV
https://youtu.be/2aS4xhTaIPc
MrV, monet has turned into one of those crazy conspiracy guys. An upgrade (or downgrade) from when he used to just be crazy. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
I got sick with covid in the early days back at the end of March 2020. A neighbor in the building on the same floor had gotten sick and was hospitalized before me. Over the next several weeks 8 different people in my building all contracted covid, getting sick to various degrees, including my brother who I live with. One guy on the floor above passed away. I was pretty sick. My brother was not. There was even a story on the local news calling our building a "cluster" of cases.
I didn't think the virus was traveling through walls, although I might have said something about that at the time, just not knowing what was going on. I didn't interact with any of these people. With hindsight, I think this very contagious virus, more contagious and dangerous at the beginning (viruses weaken over time) probably was spread through surface touch like common door handles, elevator buttons and things like that.
When thing reopened several months later, I was very cautious. I would take the steps down each morning to avoid the elevator and other people. Coming home, I could take the elevator because as long as I didn't get on at ground floor with anyone, the likelihood of passengers getting on after the first floor going up was slim. In the casinos and any other crowded place, especially indoors I wore masks, which were mandated at the time, but I would have done so anyway. I suspected masks didn't offer the protection the so-called experts claimed because if you could breathe, then the virus could get through, if it was circulating. But purchased and wore good masks anyway, not the paper do-nothing type masks.
I don't blame any medical or science experts from being wrong about anything in hindsight. They were all doing the best they could with a new situation.
I got the vaccine and two boosters. The conspiracy people can say what they want about the vaccines, but I contracted covid a second time after I had the vaccine and had very mild symptoms. Felt like a cold for a few days with minor body aches, which was quite a contrast to how sick I was the first time, for several weeks with lingering fatigue issues lasting months. That is all the proof I need that the vaccines work and do what they are supposed to do, which is minimize severe sickness and death, just the same as the flu shot does.
You're, as usual, confused.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJMrV, monet has turned into one of those crazy conspiracy guys. An upgrade (or downgrade) from when he used to just be crazy. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
I got sick with covid in the early days back at the end of March 2020. A neighbor in the building on the same floor had gotten sick and was hospitalized before me. Over the next several weeks 8 different people in my building all contracted covid, getting sick to various degrees, including my brother who I live with. One guy on the floor above passed away. I was pretty sick. My brother was not. There was even a story on the local news calling our building a "cluster" of cases.
I didn't think the virus was traveling through walls, although I might have said something about that at the time, just not knowing what was going on. I didn't interact with any of these people. With hindsight, I think this very contagious virus, more contagious and dangerous at the beginning (viruses weaken over time) probably was spread through surface touch like common door handles, elevator buttons and things like that.
When thing reopened several months later, I was very cautious. I would take the steps down each morning to avoid the elevator and other people. Coming home, I could take the elevator because as long as I didn't get on at ground floor with anyone, the likelihood of passengers getting on after the first floor going up was slim. In the casinos and any other crowded place, especially indoors I wore masks, which were mandated at the time, but I would have done so anyway. I suspected masks didn't offer the protection the so-called experts claimed because if you could breathe, then the virus could get through, if it was circulating. But purchased and wore good masks anyway, not the paper do-nothing type masks.
I don't blame any medical or science experts from being wrong about anything in hindsight. They were all doing the best they could with a new situation.
I got the vaccine and two boosters. The conspiracy people can say what they want about the vaccines, but I contracted covid a second time after I had the vaccine and had very mild symptoms. Felt like a cold for a few days with minor body aches, which was quite a contrast to how sick I was the first time, for several weeks with lingering fatigue issues lasting months. That is all the proof I need that the vaccines work and do what they are supposed to do, which is minimize severe sickness and death, just the same as the flu shot does.
You didn't have a "mild" 2nd bout because of all those shots. You became less vulnerable to serious COVID illness due to a much higher immunity level from getting sick the 1st time.
Going into crowds wasn't ideal but it was hardly the danger it was lied about being. The main culprit is as it has always been with viruses: infected people touch things and previously uninfected people touch the same things, stupidly put their fingers around their eyes, nose, mouths and even ears, and they get infected. The filth that's on those high-rise city buildings' elevators, buttons, knobs, etc. only exacerbates transmission among the idiots who just don't get it. You see the same things at gas stations. Very few people used or use a paper towel when they hold the nozzle as they're fueling up. And many of these fools rip open a bag of chips, devour peanuts by the handful, and do many other unsafe things right after they leave the pumps. They all deserve what they get.
We're not vaccinated, we're "old", and yet we haven't missed a beat in our extensive travelling around the country to restaurants, casinos, events, a wedding, and other gatherings since the beginning of the pandemic. All it takes is good personal awareness and an ability to think before you act, knowing how to touch just about everything without doing it foolishly, and CARING about what is actually going on and if/how it could be detrimental.
Wife and I are fully vaxxed and followed all the proscribed hygienic measure put out by the CDC and thus far we avoided Covid.
My impression of masks: they help prevent someone who has covid from spreading it, as opposed to preventing a wearer from contracting it.
Did the country / world over-react?
No, as the shut down was pre-vaccines; with vaccines there is little to worry about unless you're too fucking stupid, bull-headed, and / or poliiticized to get the innoculations.
I won't argue this because it is very possible, even probable that immunity rises, at least for a period after contracting a virus. At least sometimes, but not always. Think of the common cold which is a virus. Having had a cold doesn't protect you from getting another.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
I do remember that after I recovered from the first bout with covid, I was thinking I probably was protected for at least some period of time. After Casinos re-opened in June 2020, I was out everyday, in the summer and early fall playing. Then in late fall, when much of the country started spending more time indoors, cases started rising again and among those rising cases where people getting the virus for a second time. This was still pre-vaccine. And many of those people that got covid for a second time had worse outcomes the second time around.
Look, it comes down to one thing. Either you believe in science and medical advancements, or you don't. I have had two heart valve replacements in the last 12 years. Had it been 60 years prior those wouldn't have been available, and I probably wouldn't be here. So, I believe in science and medical advancements. They don't get everything right, but they are advancements.
Believing in science and medical advancements is really the same argument as believing in the math in gambling. You either believe in the math or you believe in voodoo things like progression wagering, and "special plays", hot and cold cycles. I will choose science and math every time.
Avoided or just asymptomatic. There's zero chance me and my wife avoided it. I went out maskless at times and was up close and personal with people who had tested positive, I flew many times, went shopping and went to casinos, doctors, and dentists, went to parties, etc, and we never had any covid symptoms that were apparent.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
You've avoided COVID because you don't do anything. I couldn't even get you to the Pelican Pub & Brewery for dinner.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
I like it when I see others wearing masks, although we'll never wear them unless required. Most people are careless with their sneezing and coughing, oblivious to the billions of potentially infectious droplets that instantly scatter. Even if no one else is around at the time of the discharge, the virus lives for a while on surfaces. Think of how many times you've sat a machine banging away at the buttons, completely impervious to what might be on them from other people's carelessness. And let's not even talk about what might be on that cash you're handling.... Many times, those fingers you're hoping will serve up a jackpot inadvertently make it into your eyes, nose, or mouth. And how many players actually clean off the areas they touch on machines as best they can? Very, very few--but I'm one of them.
But this stuff's no different than what can be done to avoid the flu, pneumonia, or the common cold either. The fact that that idiot Fauci touted wearing masks for covid inside and outside, wearing TWO masks, wearing them at home etc. etc. etc. was only to cover up his responsibilities for that Chinese lab leaking the virus in the first place, as we've seen recently but have known all along.
The whole COVID thing is a joke, from start to finish. Tell the masses "you could die!" and they'll do anything, including blindly follow "the science :)" as well as panic. Then you get the liberal sections of this country looking for "the Government" to "save" them, so they'll do anything they're told, while the feds deflect and divert attention through various freebies and handouts. It is satisfying being independent of all that.
Rob, stfu or I will chase you back to GF. Who gives a fuck about COVID or masks at this point. Both sides had valid points. Vaccine and masks were far from perfect. Ivermectin was a joke treatment.
Obsessing over Fauci just like you're told.
We don't need a man so retarded he wrote a nonsensical book on beating Video Poker NOW giving us medical advice. Redietz seems to have taken some wisdom, now I'd suggest you do the same. You literally have far more in common with Redietz than anyone else on this forum.
Get back to doing the lawn like you promised your daughter.
I understand your bitterness, I do, and why it is you need to get involved with every topic that arises. You find fault with everyone and everything, and I'll bet you blame underachievement as a catalyst.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
You do not have a life worth living; you're an old loner with no path in front of you, so you look for conflict wherever you may find it, in the hope that it can stimulate and provide meaning.
Whenever you post, the first thing people do is feel sorry for you. You're neither here nor there. You think you're on the intellectual side of every argument, but you're not. The truth is, you barely exist.
Ask your wife.
Precious stuff coming from Rob.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.SingerI understand your bitterness, I do, and why it is you need to get involved with every topic that arises. You find fault with everyone and everything, and I'll bet you blame underachievement as a catalyst.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
You do not have a life worth living; you're an old loner with no path in front of you, so you look for conflict wherever you may find it, in the hope that it can stimulate and provide meaning.
Whenever you post, the first thing people do is feel sorry for you. You're neither here nor there. You think you're on the intellectual side of every argument, but you're not. The truth is, you barely exist.
Ask your wife.
No wife. Just women who I have broken their hearts but clown all ya want because IDGAF.
The one absolute fact is that if anyone has anything in common with Redietz, it is you, dear Rob. Although I suspect Redietz is actually more legit but no one knows.
^^^Welcome to VCT's version of "AGT:" "Another God-damn Troll.^^^Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
What's the matter Rob, not getting enough attention?
I avoided covid thus far not because I didn't do anything but because I was careful and circumspect about my actions, plus I suppose I had a bit of luck.
I've gambled throughout this time but wore a mask when required and I always clean the slot machines buttons with 70% Isopropyl alcohol before play.
I avoided being in close proximity to others, therefore I've pretty much eschewed playing craps for the duration (one exception at a nearly empty table).
I / we still shopped, worked out daily at the fitness center (when it wasn't closed during mandatory shutdown), visited friends and family, ate out etc.
As for my passing up on meeting up with you in Pacific City: that was unrelated to covid and was based on cost / benefit analysis, probabilities, and common sense.
You can create all the scenarios you like V. Your bottom line is denial. If you had any ability whatsoever to do anything or go anywhere other than to those pathetic Oregon casinos that draw all the Portland area pothead libtards in like dory fish, you'd be out and about everywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV^^^Welcome to VCT's version of "AGT:" "Another God-damn Troll.^^^Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
What's the matter Rob, not getting enough attention?
I avoided covid thus far not because I didn't do anything but because I was careful and circumspect about my actions, plus I suppose I had a bit of luck.
I've gambled throughout this time but wore a mask when required and I always clean the slot machines buttons with 70% Isopropyl alcohol before play.
I avoided being in close proximity to others, therefore I've pretty much eschewed playing craps for the duration (one exception at a nearly empty table).
I / we still shopped, worked out daily at the fitness center (when it wasn't closed during mandatory shutdown), visited friends and family, ate out etc.
As for my passing up on meeting up with you in Pacific City: that was unrelated to covid and was based on cost / benefit analysis, probabilities, and common sense.
Those excuses for being afraid to meet me (and my wife) face-to-face for dinner are even more chickenshit delusional. Safe spaces are all people in Oregon can handle.
Oh please, Rob, don't you get tired of spinning all your bullshit?
My wife and I have current passports and *ahem* "sufficient funds" to travel anywhere we'd care to go and to buy pretty much anything we'd care to buy.
My health is great, BTW: wife and I still work out daily at the fitness center and I just came back from the doc with a clean bill of health: while nobody beats the reaper I seem to be keeping him at bay.
So if it ain't money and it ain't health that induces me not to globe trot or to buy an RV and live the nomad life, what could it be?
Fear?
Bwa ha ha ha
Covid is pretty much over, but I am quite content to stay mostly in stumptown, living the life of Reilly (i.e. doing exactly whatever it is I choose to do).
I love the Oregon casinos: same games as sin city.
I love my home, my family, friends, and hobbies, so why would I want to leave home in order to search for something when I am already happy?
We are however planning to take a Mediterranean cruise some day, and we (me, my wife, my son, his wife and their son) plan to head to NH this summer to spend a few weeks at my lakeside vacation home on Lake Winnipesaukee so no, I am not a true stay at home.
I am enjoying my retirement: too bad yours doesn't seem a good fit for you.
No, our paths will never cross: your loss.
There are glasses you can buy that fool facial recognition. I’m not going to post the name of them but they work 100 percent. I’ve only had one casino ask me to remove them at the point of entry. Something else that works well is certain makeup application around the area between the eyes and forehead. Traveling with someone trained in this comes in handy. There is a certain university on the east coast that has done a lot of research on ways to defeat facial recognition. The real problem is defeating the casino hustlers who seem to think they work in casino surveillance. Those guys need a loved one beat with a ball peen hammer to show them the error of their waysQuote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
Since you basically admitted to only playing a handful of hours a week your experiences mean nothing. How you part timers claim to be professionals is mind boggling. Only in the world of fake advantage players can one claim to be a pro working 14 hours a week tops lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJMrV, monet has turned into one of those crazy conspiracy guys. An upgrade (or downgrade) from when he used to just be crazy. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
I got sick with covid in the early days back at the end of March 2020. A neighbor in the building on the same floor had gotten sick and was hospitalized before me. Over the next several weeks 8 different people in my building all contracted covid, getting sick to various degrees, including my brother who I live with. One guy on the floor above passed away. I was pretty sick. My brother was not. There was even a story on the local news calling our building a "cluster" of cases.
I didn't think the virus was traveling through walls, although I might have said something about that at the time, just not knowing what was going on. I didn't interact with any of these people. With hindsight, I think this very contagious virus, more contagious and dangerous at the beginning (viruses weaken over time) probably was spread through surface touch like common door handles, elevator buttons and things like that.
When thing reopened several months later, I was very cautious. I would take the steps down each morning to avoid the elevator and other people. Coming home, I could take the elevator because as long as I didn't get on at ground floor with anyone, the likelihood of passengers getting on after the first floor going up was slim. In the casinos and any other crowded place, especially indoors I wore masks, which were mandated at the time, but I would have done so anyway. I suspected masks didn't offer the protection the so-called experts claimed because if you could breathe, then the virus could get through, if it was circulating. But purchased and wore good masks anyway, not the paper do-nothing type masks.
I don't blame any medical or science experts from being wrong about anything in hindsight. They were all doing the best they could with a new situation.
I got the vaccine and two boosters. The conspiracy people can say what they want about the vaccines, but I contracted covid a second time after I had the vaccine and had very mild symptoms. Felt like a cold for a few days with minor body aches, which was quite a contrast to how sick I was the first time, for several weeks with lingering fatigue issues lasting months. That is all the proof I need that the vaccines work and do what they are supposed to do, which is minimize severe sickness and death, just the same as the flu shot does.
The only person I can think of who’s been in more casinos then I have since the reopening in 2020 is Alan Kessler. I don’t talk to alan so it’s hard to compare but literally I’m in a casino 7 days a week often staying in them. I never got a vaccine and got covid officially once, but I suspect I had it before there was testing. Only the weak and indoctrinated frauds believe in the vaccines
So basically Red is the Bernie Madoff of sports. Another Fraud without a bankroll looking for investments lol. Much like the bisexual / gay young poker professionals that borrow money to play and post all day about how good they are. Red is basically just like them fake. Just another fraudulent professional poster who doesn’t do or make shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzQuote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfI don't know what all those guys are really doing. Let me give a little insight and something to think about. This isn't directed any anyone in particular.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Let's start off with the fact that people feen (is it phene or feen?) for sports betting, especially so with guys who have money to burn(think young cocky guy working on wall street.)
Those guys are always looking for someone or some service that has "good picks" whoever is the flavor of the month. They will even pay a shit ton for tout services(OFC, that's nothing compared to the amounts they are betting)
Now we have a bunch of handicappers/sports bettors/ whatever who are entering contests, making picks, etc. Some with legit skil,l some not so much. But, at some point, a few people gonna run hot as fuck. Word travels fast and the next thing you know people are beating their doors down and feening to get in on the action. Suddenly all kinds of sweet deals and offers are being made. Big backers are offering free rolls, apps, websites, affiliates, tout services etc, too good to pass up. We won't know what's really going on with all that, it's usually kept quiet.
Whatever the case, some of those guys become infallible and legendary, they can do no wrong, and even when they run bad and things start to average out. People remember all the winning, everything else is just bad luck, so there's always money coming in somewhere.
There's nothing wrong with all that, people got to make a living.
IIRC RED's site touted their goal for investors was 10-12% returns in NFL alone. Who the Fuck would need or want investors if you can make 10-12% on NFL? Now just imagine if you're even better at college Football. Anyone with a legitimate long-term 5% + edge in major sports handicapping should be filthy rich since the amount of action you can get in is huge and the venues are plentiful.
Axelwolf, you clearly have no idea what 10-12% return means. Have you no bank accounts? That is so bizarre. It really is.
It means if you start in September with 100K, the goal is to finish December with 110-112K. That is the normal American definition of 10-12% return.
A 10-12% return goal has nothing to do with having a 10-12% edge. Can you read? Have you ever talked to a financial advisor or sat down in a bank?
The reading comprehension is mind-blowing.
And "IIRC" is great unless you don't recall it correctly. LOL. You got it wrong, as in completely wrong.
I have to think this is all trolling, especially since the website snapshot was from 2000 or thereabouts.
Now I have a serious question, Axelwolf. Did you drink alcohol before posting? I can't imagine a sober Axelwolf could misinterpet 10-12% return as a 10-12% edge FOR EVERY SINGLE EVENT. How could anyone who ever set foot into a bank? Or anyone who seriously gambled?
There is something seriously wrong with someone who reads 10-12% return as meaning "for every single event." That is some brain-dead reading comprehension.
Unbelievable.
So when a bank promises Axelwolf a 3% return, does Axelwolf assume it's per day, per investment decision, every time his money is moved to something different he gets another 3%?
Jesus, man, visit a bank one of these days.
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One of the more striking aspects of this thread is how clear it has become that Singer as a person is basically half kewlj and half redietz.
Redietz - Both of Singer and Redietz post pictures of themselves with an expensive vehicle that they don't own. Both sell systems and mock those who understand the actual math behind what they're doing. Who else does this? Both talk up a big game of the old days. Redietz talks about his glory days betting at LV and Rob talks about his glory days with the DU bug but both have become completely irrelevant dinosaurs grasping via some forum persona.
KewlJ - Kewl and Rob both like to make up random stuff on the fly about others. Both who have fantastic gambling stories - whether counting BJ in LV for a decade or winning insane UX jackpots. They both live in a complete fantasy world. Both reside with family that is not their spouse. Both are significant punching bags on this forum and I presume others. Neither can keep away because they love the drama.
I'm not even sure if I could make the call which of the 2 Rob favors. He is so much like both of them.
PS - My apologies to Redietz for making the comparison.
How unusual for you to engage in this kind of trolling....NOT!Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
Now allow me to point out the differences. I can do this with one word....MATH. What I do can easily be explained by math. It is the very same math that has worked for decades as far as card counting. The trick today, in today's world is playing in a manor, including limits that allow a player to be welcome to continue to play. And even that.....I have explained as much as I can, probably way more than I ever should have.
Rob's claims, the one's that I challenged defied math. He claimed to play a -EV game and have long-term winnings using progression wagering and "special plays". That simply defied math. Now his later claims beginning with the double up bug, and including this large jackpot hit, don't defy math as much, but there are other issues. Mainly he stole one claim from an actual news story and the second, there isn't even a machine that he describes in Las Vegas, not even in any high limit room. According to Rob, the casino had to bring in a machine especially for him. And I guess they placed this machine in some storage area next to some exercise equipment, for him to play. So that is one difference....Rob's claims are all over the place, an array of unlikely to impossible events. My claim is the same claim for well over a decade. Backed by math.
Now lets get into the living situation. Unfortunately, despite my best efforts it has become known to some people, over the last year or so, who I am. Many AP's and a few trolls, know my name and where I live. And when they look into me, they can see real estate transactions. I sold the house that was in my name only in Summerlin just after my partner passed away and purchase a condo, in my name, that I later transferred half to my brother. You look up Rob and you find a house in his daughter and son-in-laws name that he lives in. Oh he has stories and explanations about that, but the facts and records are what they are.
Additional, again, because it has become known who I am among my fellow AP's some have been able to look me up on the databases, as a lot of AP's find ways to have access to the databases. This isn't something I want to bring to attention, but it is fact. So there really isn't any question about who I am and what I do, especially among AP's and most normal members. There never really was any question among other AP's. Only the haters and trolls make up these stories. So I am not surprised you are on, even driving that bandwagon, AinQ.
What do you get with Rob as far as verification? He has some weird story that he is not even allowed to mention the casino where he claims to have hit this latest large jackpot, on a machine that isn't available. Some weird agreement not to mention the casino name...because casinos don't like the publicity of a large jackpot winner. At least that is the way it works in Rob's world. In the real world, casinos love this kind of publicity. They know that the money from such a hit comes back 10 to 100 fold with that kind of publicity.
But whatever AccountinQuestion, never lets the facts get in the way. Continue with your trolling.
Same old bs stories kew, from A to Z yet again. Anyone with half a brain knows if you really believed any of them, you'd have ZERO need to keep trying to talk yourself into doing so.
The funniest part that gets under your skin when it comes to those who've had you pegged for what you really are? Aside from you having that twisted gay mind that you choose to have, every step of my life thru to your age has been lived with productivity, success and meaning, while you've gone from ghetto to ghetto-style living except when living off of some fat old sugar daddy who croaked of aids. And don't forget that wonderful mommy of yours, who helped make you the gem you are today. But what about your next 30-something years---will they be like mine....or more of the same? Oops!---you more than likely won't see 50. :)
Wise up.
Uh, really?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ;155551[/QUOTE
When I google his name and add "Emery South Datkota" up pops info on a nice home in his name there.
Info as to value and his ownership is quite clear, as is the photo of the home and the two vehicles parked there: a Dodge Caravan and a blue Chevy Colorado.
Surely you aren't too ham-fisted with a 'puter to have missed this?
Understand MrV, my interest in looking into Rob (since his name was known) was only about his gambling claims. I was looking for something that either supported or conflicted with his claim, which at the time was the double up bug claim. What I found was the residence that Rob lists as his primary residence is owned by his daughter and son-in-law. I have no idea about a property in South Dakota, that I know he visits for a couple months most summers.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
But see in addition to discovering that Rob's primary home is owned by his daughter and son-in-law, other items popped up, like bankruptcies, legal judgements, evictions, a since removed food stamp item, some of these things during the time frame that Rob claims to have made millions from any one of these different claims. THAT is the issue.
Rob further exposed himself with the whole Newell RV fiasco, which again, not a single piece of evidence can be found in his publicly available records. Again, THAT is/was my interest to find things that either verify or dispute his claims. I didn't find anything on a property in South Dakota, but if you think it relevant, feel free to share what you found.
MrV, you know Rob claims that he and his wife had pretty good paying careers in the aerospace industry (I believe). I didn't set out to look into that, so I didn't. That is unrelated to his many different fantastical gambling claims. Knowing Rob, he has probably embellished this some as well, but assuming he had at least somewhat of a decent career in that industry, I would expect that by the time he reached his 70s and retired, he would have something to show for it, owning property and cars and what not. If he owns property in South Dakota, and several vehicles, I would expect that.
What remains absent is anything, anything at all, that would lead to believe of the millions made from various gambling claims. The very kinds of things that Shackleford and Dan Druff or anyone offering Rob a platform immediately asks for. Show us something....taxes, documentation, excessive property...something that verifies or at least supports such claims. Well something other than pictures in a RV at the dealership showroom. :rolleyes:
KJ, you're "preachng to the choir" about Rob and his boasts, I too agree he tells a lot of whoppers.
My point in posting was only to point out that yes, there is a home in his name.
Given your pursuit of Rob (much like a terrier pursuing a rat) I am quite surprised you never found this info on line: it was "hiding in plain sight."
So, MrV, I just took a look at the property in South Dakota mentioned. I see the truck and car in photos. I see value estimates of $246 - $311K. Looks like a nice enough house.
Rob clearly doesn't live there as all his many different gambling claims over the last 20 years have taken place in and around Las Vegas. Towards the tail end of the time frame he now claims he was playing the double up bug, his official residence was listed as a trailer park in Pahrump, NV.
MrV, my interest was only in looking for things that supported or disputed Rob's claims. I mean seriously, I didn't look who owns the home in Emory Soth Dakota that Rob visits for a couple months each summer. I was mildly interested in the places he lives or lived in and around Las Vegas, which includes Pheonix area, where his claims were supposedly to have taken place.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
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Originally Posted by kewlJ
True, but I suspect he really does own it and stays there when not traveling around the country staying elsewhere, be it with family, in a campground, or in a casino.
Not my cuppa to wander aimlessly around but who am I to judge?
No he does not MrV. His primary residence these days is a home that his daughter owns in Glendale, Arizona. THAT is where he resides 9-10 months a year. THAT is where all his claims originate from. THAT is what dan Druff has stated his IP address shows. THAT is where Rob posted a picture of the safe with the guns, and movie prop money. THAT is where he claimed his made up RV was parked. THAT is where he went to an RV dealership, climbed into an RV on the showroom floor and took pictures.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
In the very fist sentence of the Interview with Shackleford, Mike revealed that Rob lives in Pheonix. Rob has talked about living 9 miles from State Farm Stadium in Glendale Arizona, where the Cardinals play. When Rob created a sock puppet, Girlfriday or FridayGirl (I forget which) on this forum, Dan Druff confirmed that GirlFriday sockpuppet was originating from the same area in Pheonix that Rob lives.
Rob Lives in Pheonix in his daughter's house. If there is a property in South Dakota or anywhere else that he is associated with, good for him. Maybe he helped out a son or daughter purchase a home, as he should have been able to do with the career he says he had. But a home in South Dakota in his name or associated with him, in no way supports any of these many different unlikely to impossible gambling claims in and around Las Vegas over the last 20 years.
It could be that he rents the SD house out to a third party.
Otherwise, and does this make sense: he leaves it vacant nine months and occupies it for three?
So silly, and predictable. You people are seeing exactly what I want your dumb searches to see, and exactly in the way needed. I now challenge you idiots to "look up" my retirement accounts, my wife's, and my overseas accounts and investments.
Kew, your bottom line begins and ends in unimpressive failure. I researched you on a professional level--not the $2.50 internet searches you cherry-pick from--long before these people doxxed you, and suffice it to say only a broke and addicted gambler moves out of a house and into a slug high rise apt. building, after claiming "sugar daddy died but it was MY house" so my useless clan had to scatter!
No wonder you (and V) remain go-nowhere/do nothings. I lived better in my college dorm than you do today.
MrV, I also take offense to this narrative, what did you call it... a terrier chasing a rat. ;)
I challenged Rob Singers gambling claims, stating with ones that defied math and lately some that just are extremely unlikely and not the way Las Vegas works. Same as I have done with a few others. As a professional player and advantage player, I think we have that right to call out complete BS.
It is he who went after me with personal attacks. I have never said a word about his wife or family. I don't have the need to falsely put down his daughter's house where he lives as he does with me. Rob once posted a video tour of his daughter's house. Looked like a nice enough house. I really don't care about anything he does or his life outside these claims. As a betting man, I would bet he has embellished all these aspects of his James Bond-like career. But I really don't care about what he did for a living. I don't care that he claims to have a good family life. Good for him. Nor do I care that he may do some traveling, now in his retirement. Again, good for him.
I care only about his gambling claims.
Singer, you don't even realize what a post like this, the kind you frequently make, reveals about you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
I certainly have never questioned your retirement accounts. I don't care. Has anyone questioned or challenged that? If so, take it up with them. BUT, what it does reveal is that you worked all those years that you claimed to have been playing Vegas, using the magical Singer progression system, all those years you claimed to have played the double up bug (which you stole from the news stories). You have a lifetime of working, not all the fantastical gambling claims you have made. THAT can be documented by your retirement accounts. But nothing else, none of your fantastical gambling claims have any kind of supporting documentation.
Second thing revealed is your complete jealousy and bitterness, when you say these things you frequently repeat, like "slum high-rise" and all this sugar daddy nonsense. It is pretty easy to connect me to my late partner and a simple search reveals he had no money. Besides what he made partnering with me on some of our AP plays, he had a small social security disability income. If he was a sugardaddy, he was the poorest (money-wise) sugardaddy in the history of sugardaddies. :rolleyes:
And the "slum highrise" in which my brother and I reside, is one of the nicer and most sought after condo buildings in Vegas. That you and people like this seedvalue lie about thse things that people can now look up for themselves, reveals just how crazy and angry you are. But that is your issue, not mine.
Gotta love how this nitwit makes bold claims about my lifestyle without a shred of evidence to back it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Memo to Rob: I retired after 40 years of practicing law; only an idiot wouldn't have made "adequate provision" for retirement while the money was rolling in while working.
And I am no idiot, Rob: in fact, the odds are very good that I have more money, more valuable investments, and more real estate than you do, but at the end of the day what does it really matter?
We're just here to amuse ourselves at other's expense while hopefully learning and teaching a bit to others.
Changing gears, I wasn't going to bother to address this but have decide to do so now. You know nothing about playing blackjack and card counting for a living. Of the few "pure" card counters remaining that play for a living or significant stakes, most play a relatively small number of hours a week or month. I know guys that travel that might play 3 days a month. If it is not traveling out of town and playing "home casinos" players might play two days a week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seedvalue
It is me, and a very few others that took the "grinder" approach of playing 5-6 days and 30-40 hours a week, like I did for 10 years. That is a rarity. A home base of Las Vegas is probably the only situation a player can take that approach. And now, because of circumstances, I have transitioned, more towards the limited amount of play, for higher stakes approach....at least for now.
Bottom line: stay in your lane dude. You clearly don't know shit about card counting for a living and you clearly don't know shit about me. You are just another hater making up lies.
Says the guy that is just another hater making up lies. You said in an earlier post that Rob hand "bankruptcies." That's plural. I know of one that was long before his gambling career. If you know of more then give us the details. If you can't then you lied. You also said "evictions" That's also plural. Please list these multiple evictions or else you lied.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJChanging gears, I wasn't going to bother to address this but have decide to do so now. You know nothing about playing blackjack and card counting for a living. Of the few "pure" card counters remaining that play for a living or significant stakes, most play a relatively small number of hours a week or month. I know guys that travel that might play 3 days a month. If it is not traveling out of town and playing "home casinos" players might play two days a week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seedvalue
It is me, and a very few others that took the "grinder" approach of playing 5-6 days and 30-40 hours a week, like I did for 10 years. That is a rarity. A home base of Las Vegas is probably the only situation a player can take that approach. And now, because of circumstances, I have transitioned, more towards the limited amount of play, for higher stakes approach....at least for now.
Bottom line: stay in your lane dude. You clearly don't know shit about card counting for a living and you clearly don't know shit about me. You are just another hater making up lies.
V, you and KJ are frickin' funny. Especially K-I don't care-J. He looks all kinds of shit up on Rob but he "don't care." Get a life, KJ.
News to me that Rob owns a home in Emery. That's how much I keep up with this stuff. I don't. But looks like a nice place.
If we go back far enough Rob went to South Dakota because it's the cheapest state in the country to register an RV. I found the RV park there and pics. It looks like a very nice place. If Rob bought a home there he must like the area. It certainly is a great small town in America. And the politics in SD are a little more amenable to Rob than Arizona is these days.
I think you guys are a little off on how much time Rob spends in Phoenix. Hell, it can hit 100 degrees in April. I think his time is more like 50-50.
Porter is good. He did a good job of explaining how he is able to get a big enough wager in.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
Yes. He's very pragmatic IMHO; a great trait for an AP and it will take him far IMHO.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmQuote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
Isn't it funny how lapdog mickey shows up to support Rob every time Rob is making a fool of himself, getting hung out to dry by his own words. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
But I will play along. Lapdog mickey says Rob spends 50% of his time away from Pheonix. So let's just take a look. :rolleyes:
May 13, 2022: Rob announced that he was looking for a 10 play $25 machine. pretty much a pre-announcement of what was soon to follow.
Less than two weeks later, on May 26, Rob posted pictures of a 1.5 million dollar hit from a computer near the workout equipment in his daughter's home. (probably not the basement, because most desert homes have no basement, but definitely the storage area of the home).
Was it the following day that Rob posted 'proof' of this million and a half jackpot by posting pictures of a safe with movie prop money purchased from Amazon.
What followed was days of the back-and-forth nonsense that Rob thrives on, and a proposed meeting to meet Maxpen on May 31 (day after memorial day) at South Point at 12:30pm. Maxpen was there all day and Rob didn't show, although Rob bizarrely claims he walked through at 10:15, two hours BEFORE the scheduled meet time, and then headed back to Pheonix.
Several weeks later on June 16, we saw a repeat of this renegged meetup with Dan Druff at GVR.
At that point Rob exited this forum, but posted daily at GF. He did claim he was taking an east coast trip, ending in Reno where he asked to meet Moses. That is when Moses informed us, he was battling cancer.
By the end of July Rob was back in Pheonix, and offered to meet redietz in Las Vegas August 8-12.
And by the beginning of September, Rob was posting his weekly football picks from Pheonix, "9 miles from the stadium".
So mickey Crimm, please share where this 6 month period was that Rob escapes Pheonix? At best Rob took a driving trip for a month, after the Dan Druff / GVR fiasco June 16th. Being retired he can afford to do that. But don't give us this crap that he travels 6 months a year "to avoid the 100 degree heat". He lives in Pheonix in his daughter's house.
I think ZenKing only puts in 2 hours a week. Ok, I'm under-exaggerating, but he doesn't put in many hours.
ZenKing, are you sucking big black dicks on the side, Or do you prefer spic dicks? :eek::eek::eek:
Well, how much are you under-exaggerating by? By his own admission, Zenking isn't playing high enough stakes to only be putting in a handful of hours. At the stakes he says he plays, max bet in the 2x$250 range, he really should be a grinder type player putting in decent hours to make any decent money.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
Unless of course blackjack has become a part-time thing for him. Is he doing other AP stuff (or non-AP stuff) to make a living and blackjack is just a small part of that now?
Nowadays, with opportunities almost everywhere and the ability to AP online from anywhere with the internet. I have actually thought of selling or renting out my place, buying an RV, and just driving to whatever beautiful places I can think of and going Fishing, hiking, sightseeing, just spending time relaxing and playing whatever opportunities come up whenever I feel like it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterVQuote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
True, but I suspect he really does own it and stays there when not traveling around the country staying elsewhere, be it with family, in a campground, or in a casino.
Not my cuppa to wander aimlessly around but who am I to judge?
If we get sick of it or it doesn't work out sell the RV and go back to whatever you were doing prior.
The problem: I hate long-distance boring driving. We have a lot of animals, and I have lots of crap.
To expand on the Zenking situation, a longtime member of Tommy Hylands team, rightfully opined that the big benefit of Las Vegas as far as blackjack card counting was "quantity of games over quality of games". I don't know how many players relocate here to pursue blackjack anymore, like myself and Zenking did. I am guessing some, that we just don't hear about. But if a player does, it really should be to take advantage of that "quantity" and grind away. If you are going to be a player that only plays a handful of hours at higher stakes, traveling to different places, you can do that from anywhere.
95% sure he just plays blackjack. He might be doing 20 hours a week, and he might have upped his base bet. I don't pay that much attention to all that.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJWell, how much are you under-exaggerating by? By his own admission, Zenking isn't playing high enough stakes to only be putting in a handful of hours. At the stakes he says he plays, max bet in the 2x$250 range, he really should be a grinder type player putting in decent hours to make any decent money.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
Unless of course blackjack has become a part-time thing for him. Is he doing other AP stuff (or non-AP stuff) to make a living and blackjack is just a small part of that now?
I don't think he will care that I mention this, but he just got rear-ended(by a car that is) His car was totaled. But, other than that, he seems to be doing well. Nice place, has money, has freedom, and has friends.