kewlJ

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

I think kewlJ doesn't understand why so many people here dislike him.

It's not just that he lies. We've had lots of liars on this forum.

It's the seriousness with which kewlJ tells these lies, and then lashes out at those who doubt them. There's a certain arrogance to those posts, in the tone, "Of course this is fucking true, and you're a complete idiot for even doubting this."

Then, when the forum userbase turns out to be smarter than he expected and disproves some of them, we get the mea culpa that he wasn't telling the truth all along. Fessing up only gets you credit if you do it before people take apart the lie and prove otherwise. You get even less credit if you were arrogant/combative/condescending during the questioning of the story's veracity.

In fact, even this story doesn't make sense. He's insisting the backrooming really happened, but just the lawsuit part of it was fake. He said he told that lie in order to protect his privacy. Huh?? How does adding a fake postscript to the story protect your privacy?

It still sounds like he's trying to save face. He's now only admitting to the part which was proven to be false -- and sticking to the part of the story which nobody can possibly disprove.

Let's say I told a story about being in Denver, meeting an arrogant guy who claimed he was a great poker player, and then we went to go play heads up, and I won a million dollars from him. Then I took a redeye flight back to LA, leaving at 2am and arriving at 4am. Let's say someone looked up the flight schedule that day from Denver, and noticed that no such flight existed in the middle of the night. Upon that being posted, I first argue that they're wrong, and then finally concede, "Okay, I didn't really fly back from Denver that same night. I just told that part of the story to protect the privacy of the person I played."

That wouldn't make any sense, right? The flight would be totally independent of everything else that happened before. Same thing with the lawsuit. It's not like us believing the lawsuit existed would somehow prevent us from uncovering where this all happened.

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Not only has he not admitted to lying beyond the lawsuit aspect he continues to bring up these fantasy stories. Just won't give up. Then he wants to go the victimhood route. He is the one who brought up the whole shuffler thing AGAIN.

If you have 10 people ganging up on you in a forum it isn't really "bullying". You don't get a pass with bullshit just because too many people have an issue with it. You put yourself out there with your stories.

Although bringing up the sugardaddy prostitute stuff could be a form of bullying - the ridicule and discussion of his made-up stories is not.

I can 100% guarantee you that if everyone took to caring and went after Mdawg or Singer the word bully would not even be up for consideration in Kewl's word. He isn't introspective enough to understand that. I'm sure he believes he is a victim to some degree.

We could summarize all of the above with just

https://i.imgur.com/IGCtcxU.gif

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Originally Posted by MDawg

We could summarize all of the above with just

https://i.imgur.com/IGCtcxU.gif

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Certainly not as creative as your attempted insults to Axel and Oz yesterday with pics of penny slots and Ellis Island.

Again, like everyone else, they laugh at you, your stories and your attempts at attention. As every AP or non AP even semi knowledgeable about Vegas does. As for anyone messaging you for information, no different than all the other YouTube gambling scammers. There will always be morons willing to believe in gambling voodoo and fantasy.

And by the way, you certainly made KJ look credible with his claims you run that fantasy stories forum with everything you posted recently about how forums “work” behind the scenes.

But keep up the beat down of KJ if it makes you feel better. He certainly gave you something worthwhile to spend your time on. What else would someone worth $100 million plus (from simple math of your investment claims alone)do with their life then hang on these forums hourly?

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

I just don't think kewlJ is having fun during these controversies, unlike Rob who lives for them.

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You are wrong about this Druff. I was having fun, until all the homophobic hate started. And that was long before I shared anything with the backroom story. All this shit about sugar daddy's and sex with my brother and male prostitute and scamming old gay men. That was out of bounds and YOU allowed all that Druff. I called out Singer and Mdawg's gambling claims and when they couldn't come up with a reasonable answer or reply, they went to homophobic shit. And then you allowed the shit from Seedvalue to escalate it even more.

Dan Druff, what if every time you posted something, I or someone responded that you were a penny-pinching, money grubbing Jew. You wouldn't put up with that. Yet you allowed the same bigotry with me for years now. What if the nasty lying comments were about your wife/girlfriend (not sure the status) or your son? What if people were repeating over and over that your wife was a prostitute that supports your family while you do your degenerate gambling thing. Would you have allowed that? Of course not. Yet you have allowed all this with me for a couple years now.

I challenged and called out Singer and Mdawg's gambling claims and unable to answer they attacked with all this homophobic bigoted lies about me and family members. And you allowed it. That makes you as homophobic and bigoted as they are, Druff. So fuck you, you stinking, money grubbing, hairy Jew. :p

Mdawg in particular when he can't answer questions and challenges about his make believe story, immediately tries to discredit whoever questions or challenges him because he can't answer. He has done this with several dozen people that challenged him and he is currently trying with all his might to discredit several known AP's at WoV, Axelwolf, Darkoz and TomG. Again these people can't answer, so they attack with lies. I mean Axelwolf for God sakes. Is there anyone more credible that Axelwolf? Wizard recently challenged one of Mdawgs stories (the $100-$5000 spread) and Mike told me that he probably should have done more of that and that he would going forward. If he follows through, Mdawg with turn on Wizard in the same manner.

I will address the backroom situation AGAIN separately because I have to think about just how much I want to reveal. But you guys, including you Druff are wrong about it. The incident occurred just as I shared. It was the lawsuit portion that I lied about. I had my reasons for that. Let me think about how much more I want to share publicly

It's getting to where you sound like him, Boz. Be careful!


As far as FraudJ himself, it's just more of the same quick turnaround,

smurgerburger on what an embarrassment UNKewlJ is: I still can't get past the latest kewlJ turnabout.
Couldn't you have abstained from the forum for say...one week? Just to make it a little less embarrassing?

because he couldn't bear to stay silent about...MDawg!

More long-winded, rambling drama-laced "I NEED TO set the record straight or I'll go OUT OF MY MIND!" paragraphs that never seem to satisfy, as he then repeats the same things over and over again.

Best to just ask kew how close he is to faking his own death again.


I have to admit, it is interesting to imagine the spirochetes of hurt bouncing around in his head as he's driven time and again to try to explain this or that and try to dig himself out of yet another hole he created through nonstop lying. Just trying to figure out what makes this loser tick, is a good waste of time.
"I'm a liar, but...I'll talk about MDawg or RobSinger, because that has something to do with why I lied." Man, how do you make that gonnegtion?

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Originally Posted by RobSinger

This poor fool could not make it clearer: HE IS THE MOST TORTURED SOUL IN THE HISTORY OF ONLINE CONCOCTIONISTS!

It's just way too funny watching nearly everybody everywhere laugh at and make fun of him for being a proven liar about his BS blackjack claims, and how so many successful people just bother the shit out of him.

If there's ever been anybody more incapable of trying and trying to change other people's opinions about himself, that person hasn't been born yet.

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Originally Posted by The Boz

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Originally Posted by MDawg

We could summarize all of the above with just

https://i.imgur.com/IGCtcxU.gif

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Certainly not as creative as your attempted insults to Axel and Oz yesterday with pics of penny slots and Ellis Island.

Again, like everyone else, they laugh at you, your stories and your attempts at attention. As every AP or non AP even semi knowledgeable about Vegas does. As for anyone messaging you for information, no different than all the other YouTube gambling scammers. There will always be morons willing to believe in gambling voodoo and fantasy.

And by the way, you certainly made KJ look credible with his claims you run that fantasy stories forum with everything you posted recently about how forums “work” behind the scenes.

But keep up the beat down of KJ if it makes you feel better. He certainly gave you something worthwhile to spend your time on. What else would someone worth $100 million plus (from simple math of your investment claims alone)do with their life then hang on these forums hourly?

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Did someone say Ellis Island??


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAyrBjh3Tpc


Sorry, Boz. I had to interject. I ate at Ellis in April. The LV Advisor has been touting Ellis Island for the last 20 years. The Advisor knows a smidgeon about LV gambling (not a helluva lot about sports gambling, admittedly, but in general).

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

I just don't think kewlJ is having fun during these controversies, unlike Rob who lives for them.

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You are wrong about this Druff. I was having fun, until all the homophobic hate started. And that was long before I shared anything with the backroom story. All this shit about sugar daddy's and sex with my brother and male prostitute and scamming old gay men. That was out of bounds and YOU allowed all that Druff. I called out Singer and Mdawg's gambling claims and when they couldn't come up with a reasonable answer or reply, they went to homophobic shit. And then you allowed the shit from Seedvalue to escalate it even more.

Dan Druff, what if every time you posted something, I or someone responded that you were a penny-pinching, money grubbing Jew. You wouldn't put up with that. Yet you allowed the same bigotry with me for years now. What if the nasty lying comments were about your wife/girlfriend (not sure the status) or your son? What if people were repeating over and over that your wife was a prostitute that supports your family while you do your degenerate gambling thing. Would you have allowed that? Of course not. Yet you have allowed all this with me for a couple years now.

I challenged and called out Singer and Mdawg's gambling claims and unable to answer they attacked with all this homophobic bigoted lies about me and family members. And you allowed it. That makes you as homophobic and bigoted as they are, Druff. So fuck you, you stinking, money grubbing, hairy Jew. :p

Mdawg in particular when he can't answer questions and challenges about his make believe story, immediately tries to discredit whoever questions or challenges him because he can't answer. He has done this with several dozen people that challenged him and he is currently trying with all his might to discredit several known AP's at WoV, Axelwolf, Darkoz and TomG. Again these people can't answer, so they attack with lies. I mean Axelwolf for God sakes. Is there anyone more credible that Axelwolf? Wizard recently challenged one of Mdawgs stories (the $100-$5000 spread) and Mike told me that he probably should have done more of that and that he would going forward. If he follows through, Mdawg with turn on Wizard in the same manner.

I will address the backroom situation AGAIN separately because I have to think about just how much I want to reveal. But you guys, including you Druff are wrong about it. The incident occurred just as I shared. It was the lawsuit portion that I lied about. I had my reasons for that. Let me think about how much more I want to share publicly

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Take your time. We all understand it's going to take a hell of a lot to spin this coming whopper. I look forward to hearing you blame being a homo when it's not believed....RIP

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

I will address the backroom situation AGAIN separately because I have to think about

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a new lie that might not be so easily disproved.

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

Next time you want to tell a whopper, talk to me and lets walk through it. I'll only charge you $200.

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Unfortunately, FraudJ doesn't have $200., let alone two nickels to rub together.

https://i.imgur.com/pb4srmsm.jpg

While I am thinking about just what I want, and CAN say about the backroom incident, I will address this lying bullshit. I have lied about 2 things, after the robbery outside my home 13 years ago and the lawsuit part of this backroom story. Both were in an effort to protect myself, from information getting out about me, that I didn't want to get into the hands of casino people that might read. Of late has been a second concern of the trolls that will take their trolling and hate off the forums into real life. I have now had two do that, the Late Kevin Keen (posting as Moses) and Mdawg.

If I find myself in that position again, even if it is because I have put myself in that postion by sharing too much, I will do the same again. I make no apologies for doing whatever I need to, to protect myself, personal information and my career.

All this other shit people claiming I have lied about is just bullshit.

The shuffle machine....that is opinion. No one can or has proven anything was a lie. Some people just have a different opinion about it.

Oiling our surfboards 25-26 years ago. Completely idiotic thing for this to have even become an issue. When I was 14-17, 25 years ago, living just outside Daytona beach, we oiled our surfboard before applied the wax. It was supposed to help keep the board from drying out. Maybe that is not a thing anymore, or maybe it was only a local thing in Daytona at the time. I have no idea, because I have not been a lifelong surfing enthusiast. But again it is a rather stupid thing to be arguing about that has nothing to do with anything.

These things are haters looking for a reason to hate. Compare that to a guy repeating lies about me being a male prostitute, or that I live in the drainage tunnels under the strip. THAT is a compulsive liar and one that does so because he can't answer legitimate questions and challenges about his so called gambling claims.

Maybe you can run back to the Cyber Crimes Division and file a report for all this supposed bullying. You know where they're at because that's not another lie.:rolleyes: What a joke.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

I will address the backroom situation AGAIN separately because I have to think about just how much I want to reveal. But you guys, including you Druff are wrong about it. The incident occurred just as I shared. It was the lawsuit portion that I lied about. I had my reasons for that. Let me think about how much more I want to share publicly

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You have to think about ... how to not back yourself in a corner.

My problem with Kewl is the above. He acts like the whole thing was truthful outside this one little part that people happened to nail him down to. He doesn't even address all his other nonsensical fantastic claims.

The fact that he won't back down and just keeps double-downing tells you enough. Just don't believe him about anything. It is that simple.

One wonders at what point in his life he started lying so much. Did it predate us? Did it come about after the sugar-daddy years as a compensation mechanism? Did he get it from a parent?

Thanks for the comments above. Confirms to me that I can't give any more details. There are just too many haters looking to hate and do me harm.

I think everyone KNOWS what a troll Mdawg is. You have embraced him back into the club because you have decided you hate me more. And Mdawg, like Singer before him (not really today, but in years past) is a good troll for whatever that is worth. These guys have a real talent for deflection. When something comes up that they don't want or can't answer they are able to immediately turn the conversation somewhere else, by attacking.

And Maxpen, while you are a real AP, very successful to my understanding, you have turned into a pretty big troll as well. You can be both. I guess it is not new, as you completely lied about a lot of shit with mickeycrimm, just for the sake of trolling him. I will say this one final time MaxPen. You had every right to look into and expose the lawsuit lie that I told. But you are wrong about the stakes I play. If you really think the guy you saw playing low stakes was me, then you have the wrong guy or are thinking of the wrong guy. If you had mentioned that years ago, I would have told you that years ago. You are either mistaken or intentionally lying. I am still trying to give you the benefit of doubt that it is an honest mistake.

But anyway,m it is obvious to me I can say no more about the incident without the KJ haters trying to harm me. I will share it with Druff privately. The rest of you continue your trolling on your troll forum, allowed and approved by Dan Druff.

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

One wonders at what point in his life he started lying so much. Did it predate us? Did it come about after the sugar-daddy years as a compensation mechanism? Did he get it from a parent?

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That pervasiveness and inability to back down from a lie is part of why I keep posting in response to his nonsense. I keep thinking, okay! some semblance of a person grounded in reality and able to read the room and respond in a way that will not make him seem even less credible, will pop up...but it never does.

He'd be good fodder for a case study in compulsive lying...someone who lives exclusively within his own mind.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

While I am thinking about just what I want, and CAN say about the backroom incident, I will address this lying bullshit. I have lied about 2 things, after the robbery outside my home 13 years ago and the lawsuit part of this backroom story. Both were in an effort to protect myself, from information getting out about me, that I didn't want to get into the hands of casino people that might read. Of late has been a second concern of the trolls that will take their trolling and hate off the forums into real life. I have now had two do that, the Late Kevin Keen (posting as Moses) and Mdawg.

If I find myself in that position again, even if it is because I have put myself in that postion by sharing too much, I will do the same again. I make no apologies for doing whatever I need to, to protect myself, personal information and my career.

All this other shit people claiming I have lied about is just bullshit.

The shuffle machine....that is opinion. No one can or has proven anything was a lie. Some people just have a different opinion about it.

Oiling our surfboards 25-26 years ago. Completely idiotic thing for this to have even become an issue. When I was 14-17, 25 years ago, living just outside Daytona beach, we oiled our surfboard before applied the wax. It was supposed to help keep the board from drying out. Maybe that is not a thing anymore, or maybe it was only a local thing in Daytona at the time. I have no idea, because I have not been a lifelong surfing enthusiast. But again it is a rather stupid thing to be arguing about that has nothing to do with anything.

These things are haters looking for a reason to hate. Compare that to a guy repeating lies about me being a male prostitute, or that I live in the drainage tunnels under the strip. THAT is a compulsive liar and one that does so because he can't answer legitimate questions and challenges about his so called gambling claims.

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You lied about many other things. Stop saying you were bullied and all this shit when you can't tell the truth about anything. You're trash. I start to feel sorry for you with all this victimhood then you double down on your bullshit lying.

Bro, stop being a loser. You bring all this shit upon yourself. It gets old. It isn't even amusing. You are simply not a real person. Singer is far more authentic than you. Mdawg I have no opinion on. I don't read other forums much or his threads. You are a special case.

No one is compulsively lying about the sewer stuff. It is funny. You're just a joke these days. You need to deal with it. Find a safe place forum or something with ploppy rubes who can't see through it.

Kewl could easily take a picture of this surfboard in his apartment with a VCT paper taped to it. Easy enough. It doesn't prove all the fantastical aspects of his other stories but at least people could give him credit for that being true. As it is the dude has never given one bit of evidence EVER from what I've seen. You'll get his fallback "I don't have to prove anything. this is an anonymous forum. blah blah". Give it a rest dude.

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

As it is the dude has never given one bit of evidence EVER from what I've seen.

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Originally Posted by Blackhole

after 20 years of posting has never produced one iota of proof about anything he ever claimed or ever said. Not even a picture

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Originally Posted by MDawg

I keep thinking, okay! some semblance of a person grounded in reality and able to read the room and respond in a way that will not make him seem even less credible, will pop up...but it never does.

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Keep your eyes on the horizon, KJ, and keep smiling: this is getting good.

Oh, why the hell would you want to confide in Todd about anything?

You just posted " So fuck you, you stinking, money grubbing, hairy Jew."

I look forward to eventually getting more details from you about what "really happened," as I am catching grief for being your only supporter.

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Originally Posted by MisterV

Oh, why the hell would you want to confide in Todd about anything?

You just posted " So fuck you, you stinking, money grubbing, hairy Jew."

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MrV, the "money grubbing, hairy Jew" comment was for effect. I was trying to make a point that he (druff) allows comments of the same type about me and regarding homophobic attacks and has for quite a while. Long before this incident.

I do still trust and respect Dan Druff. I don't like that he allows all these attacks from people only looking to deflect.

I have read Druff's poker forum a couple times, not regularly but a couple times. I see that he too, likes to make gay comments. I don't object to that. I am not nor have ever been an advocate or promoting the gay lifestyle or homosexuality. I am gay, but that doesn't define who I am. What I have accomplished as a mid-level self taught (although I do credit many who shared their experiences and knowledge) card counter is what I am most proud of and defines me.

The gay attacks started with Singer and continued with Mdawg and eventually with Seedvalue, who joined the forum for God knows what? Singer and Mdawg used them as a means to deflect from the fact that they couldn't answer legitimate challenges. A deflection. Singer has done this for decades, dating back to his attacks on Arci, mickeycrimm and redietz. It is just a way to deflect that he can't answer legitimate challenges from real winning players.

Mdawg has more or less followed suit. Mdawg attacks everyone who dares say they don't believe him. From starting individual threads attacking 20 some different AP's, through his comments about me, to where he is now attacking and trying to discredit Axelwolf, TomG and Darkoz at WoV. The only way he can survive is to try to discredit anyone who points out that his claims defy math and the way things work. It will be interesting to see how he handles wizard.

I have a sense of humor and can appreciate some gay humor. As I mentioned to Druff, you should see the comments in my own household. My brother who is straight constantly busts on my boyfriend, who was my brother's high school friend before I even met him. But there is a difference in that and attempts to discredit someone with lies and shit like male prostitution, scamming older gay males, sugar daddy bullshit, This is just an attempt to discredit someone because you have no answer for legitimate questions raised. As is the more recent homeless, lives in tunnels crap.

Mdawg is now doing the same thing with Axelwolf, TomG and Darkoz. Axelwolf for god sakes. He is trying to discredit axelwolf saying he knows nothing about casino and advantage play. Give me a fucking break.

And let me tell you something about that who casino check discussion now taking place at WoV. First, that discussion is just a deflection away from Wizard calling Mdawg and his $100-$5000 spread story out last week. Wanting to move away from that Mdawg first went to a challenge that he could count like rainman and then followed with this casino check discussion and challenge.

Let me tell you something. I don't know what the rules are about casinos issuing checks. You know why I don't know? Because I am an advantage player, a long-trem winning player. And long-term winning players don't 1) play rated, 2) use casino credit where we would have to provide identity and financial information and 3) request casino checks for the exact same reason.

You know who does, 1) play rated, 2) use casino credit and 3) request checks? Regular gamblers, ploppies, -EV players, long-term losing players, whichever term you want to use. These are the players or gamblers that can do these things. BECAUSE THE ARE LOSING PLAYERS! There is no issue with giving up identity.

So Mdawg repeatedly making the point that he does all 3 of these things only confirms what he really is and it isn't the winning player he has pretended to be. It is funny how the great detectives here don't say much about that. He is attacking me, so he is one of them now.

He's in a desperately manic phase right now, that's for sure!

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

Mirror Mirror on the wall who is the most insane of them all.

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<cough> surfboard picture with taped on paper <cough> run it through meta-data stripper with no reflections and you're 100% good to go. Then on 10 point scale you can gain a notch.

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Originally Posted by MisterV

Keep your eyes on the horizon, KJ, and keep smiling: this is getting good.

Oh, why the hell would you want to confide in Todd about anything?

You just posted " So fuck you, you stinking, money grubbing, hairy Jew."

I look forward to eventually getting more details from you about what "really happened," as I am catching grief for being your only supporter.

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The thing about Todd -- he allows Singer to make comments that are horrendous and not at all humorous. Some of the things Singer posted about Arcimede$' family, my family, and kewlJ's (ostensible) family have been both public and unforgiveable.

Todd finds this humorous. Can you imagine Todd sitting at a WSOP table and me distributing the comments he's allowed to that table? I'd have no problem doing that and then sparring with the WSOP about why they allow a hate speech advocate to play in their tournaments. Hell, at some point, I'll do a YouTube video about Todd allowing those kinds of comments and how he's promoting hate speech and I will send links to that video to every poker tournament sponsor.

I'm surprised people don't take more direct action regarding these kinds of things. Todd bears the moral and judgmental (if not legal) weight of everything on this forum. We're living in cancel culture days. Now personally, I despise the whole cancel culture schtick, but if the shoe fits....

KewlJ, if it comes down to that, I have a friend who knows his way around making YouTube videos. If you ever want to put out a "Todd Witteles allows libelous posts and encourages hate speech" video, let me know. I'll pick up the tab.