This Ain't No Poll

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

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Originally Posted by coach belly

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

let a lowly salanmander card counter tell him what to say and think?

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A forensic analysis, comparing your posts to some of Kim Lee's posts, showed with a very high degree of certainty that the posts were written by the same person.

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/40e9840...7-51d19280c422

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Who was the forensic scientist that went over KJ and Kim Lee posts? Would you list their credentials? And will you show the evidence that the forensic found.

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See, the reason I chastise myself for not noticing is because the evidence is obvious and pretty strong.

Figure it out. The mental workout will be fun and do you good.

Meanwhile, I have mentioned before that my nephew is majoring in this kind of thing. Programs come to conclusions instantly, while people gotta stumble through the putting things together.

I'm being honest. The overlaps are obvious. So have a good time figuring them out. What is conclusive? Hell, I don't know. What's "beyond a reasonable doubt?" I don't know that, either. But I know which way I'd wager at even money, or 2-1, for that matter.

There's no percentage in spelling them out for anyone. The more certain anyone is, the more they'd be motivated to let someone like mickey spin his wheels and bloviate and demand someone explain it to him. The stuff is so obvious, the more that kind of pushback is going to look moronic when or if the parallels are revealed.

So have a good time figuring it out. You might want to consult The Riddler. I hear he's somewhere in Texarkana this time of year.

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

Show the evidence or STFU.

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Is this the general rule of thumb around here, something that applies across the board?

The evidence is glaring and strong, but none of the 3 trolls that came up with this, will show the evidence. Instead they just want to slander a gambling math expert and academic who redietz used to praise, until he revealed the truth. Kim Lee is a big boy and has been at this internet stuff a long time. He can defend himself. But I find it very sleazy that these guys want to slander him like this. Redietz even has spoken to Kim Lee on the phone I believe he said. How disingenuous of you Dietz to slander someone with lies like that. Par for this forum, but very telling about who you really are.

As for how conclusive plagiarism software is, you might want to check on that. I don't know, but my understanding is they need a large text for an accurate assessment. The smaller the sample size, the less accurate. Certainly a few words, or a partial phrase, if that is what you think you have, isn't going to cut it.

This is just another really sad display of trolling by the trolls of this forum. It is just sad that it is about attacking and discrediting an absolute expert in the field. No wonder this forum is what it is. Kim Lee if you are reading (and I have made him aware of this discussion), my deepest apologies for the low life trolls of this forum dragging your name and reputation through the mud. I guess some of the responsibility is your for showing up here. I suspect it wont matter to you, but I am sorry. I dont think it is right.

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Originally Posted by redietz

the reason I chastise myself for not noticing is because the evidence is obvious and pretty strong.

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As an honest person, your default position is likely not that others are lying.

There are those among us here who automatically assume that everyone is always lying.

These miscreants boast of their expertise in the ways of deceit, allude to and occasionally share from their inventory of deceitful methods and practices, and joyfully express a willingness to apply them.

Sunlight is the best disinfectant...and they are the darkness.

And Keystone is no doubt the darkest darkie of them all.

He won't accept that without a DNA test, but no man will admit to fathering him.

Fingering him...they'll admit doing that, when he begs for it.

But fathering him?...no way.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

The evidence is glaring and strong, but none of the 3 trolls that came up with this, will show the evidence. Instead they just want to slander a gambling math expert and academic who redietz used to praise, until he revealed the truth. Kim Lee is a big boy and has been at this internet stuff a long time. He can defend himself. But I find it very sleazy that these guys want to slander him like this. Redietz even has spoken to Kim Lee on the phone I believe he said. How disingenuous of you Dietz to slander someone with lies like that. Par for this forum, but very telling about who you really are.

As for how conclusive plagiarism software is, you might want to check on that. I don't know, but my understanding is they need a large text for an accurate assessment. The smaller the sample size, the less accurate. Certainly a few words, or a partial phrase, if that is what you think you have, isn't going to cut it.

This is just another really sad display of trolling by the trolls of this forum. It is just sad that it is about attacking and discrediting an absolute expert in the field. No wonder this forum is what it is. Kim Lee if you are reading (and I have made him aware of this discussion), my deepest apologies for the low life trolls of this forum dragging your name and reputation through the mud. I guess some of the responsibility is your for showing up here. I suspect it wont matter to you, but I am sorry. I dont think it is right.

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Last I checked, saying I estimate the likelihood of a non-confluence between KewlJ and Kim Lee's posts as less than 2% would not be considered slander. The word "slander" is quite a stretch, typed for emotional effect more than appropriate definition or accuracy. I guess some people are a tad high strung, always trying to shoot for emotional effect rather than anything like accuracy.

But what do I know? I was only a writing major with no legal training other than as the law applies to journalism. After all, unlike some folks, I don't have Nersesian on speed dial.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

I guess some of the responsibility is your for showing up here.

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We may finally have found some common ground.

I agree that the Kim Lee virus is your fault.

When you think these trolls can go any lower, can be any more disgusting and low life's, they somehow manage to. And it is usually coach belly leading the way.

What a forum Dan Druff. Are you really proud of this shit? That your name is associated with this shit?

Bob Dietz, whether you were a tout or not, your sports betting activities possible because you were supported by your wife, whatever the case turns out to be with you (and I think we have a pretty good picture), you should really be ashamed of yourself for throwing in with the trolls like you have. I know you are hurt and embarrassed, but really...To quote Joseph Welch "have you no sense of decency sir".

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Originally Posted by redietz

the likelihood of a non-confluence between KewlJ and Kim Lee's posts as less than 2%.

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Since tewlj says that it's all about the math, in Kim Lee's honor I'll use my abacus to cypher that a 2% non-confluence means a 98% likelihood that the posts were written by the same person, being, entity or whatever.

Well c'mon everybody...that's better than a slam dunk.

While it's difficult to pinpoint the exact number of missed slam dunks in the NBA, it's estimated that the success rate is around 92.74%. This means that for every 100 dunk attempts, about 7 to 8 are missed.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

trolls can go any lower, can be any more disgusting

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Lower and more disgusting that Keystone?

Not possible, unless you are a real tewl....

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

molesting some teen-age boys

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I don't know (or care) the history between keystone and you (belly), but he is far less disgusting and the asshole that you are. And without knowing any more than I do, I would believe him way more than anything you ever say or said.

Your behavior spans decades on many forums. Some I wasn't even on but was directed to. You are a sick dude.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

he is far less disgusting and the asshole that you are.

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That's just because you don't think that sex with camels is disgusting.

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

This is not meant as a joke at KJ's expense. There has been quite the change in KJ over the last few years. We all know of his heart problems and his bout with covid. He is bound to have suffered from a lack of oxygen to the brain multiple times, especially with the covid. And that has obviously caused some major mental deterioration as we all have witnessed in his postings. He no longer can remember simple facts and gets confused. I have nothing against KJ but it is hard to ignore the deterioration of his mental faculties.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

When you think these trolls can go any lower, can be any more disgusting and low life's, they somehow manage to. And it is usually coach belly leading the way.

What a forum Dan Druff. Are you really proud of this shit? That your name is associated with this shit?

Bob Dietz, whether you were a tout or not, your sports betting activities possible because you were supported by your wife, whatever the case turns out to be with you (and I think we have a pretty good picture), you should really be ashamed of yourself for throwing in with the trolls like you have. I know you are hurt and embarrassed, but really...To quote Joseph Welch "have you no sense of decency sir".

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You should probably bring that comment about my wife up when you call in to the podcast. In fact, if you do not, I'll mention that you said it, just to give people a sense of your priorities.

All in the pursuit of decency, of course.

P.S. I love this kewlJ guy. Taking shots at me via my late wife. Hey KewlJ, do you have any idea when she died? Have you done your research?

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Originally Posted by redietz

when you call in to the podcast.

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I must have missed somthing. Did you contact Dan and set up a day and time?

C'mon guys....Kew was in enuf hot water around here before this Kim Lee stuff. Now you've got him pleading for decency so he doesn't have to whimper so much!

I just noticed something. I've been here almost SIX YEARS longer than kew....and he's made 1500 more posts than me! And most of those are long rambling essays, filled with the usual lies.

PROFESSIONAL GAMBLER/AP, MY ASS!!

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Originally Posted by redietz

P.S. I love this kewlJ guy. Taking shots at me via my late wife. Hey KewlJ, do you have any idea when she died? Have you done your research?

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Don't you dare go there! I took no shot at your late wife. All I have said is based on the evidence, you didn't and couldn't have made all that much money.....Not a real living wager. You would have needed someone paying the bills and supporting you. WHICH, BTW is the exact conclusion mots others that have some idea about it came to.

"This ain't no pole" said the woman while examining Rob's schlong: "certainly not the 9 1/2 inches you bragged about packing."

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

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Originally Posted by redietz

P.S. I love this kewlJ guy. Taking shots at me via my late wife. Hey KewlJ, do you have any idea when she died? Have you done your research?

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Don't you dare go there! I took no shot at your late wife. All I have said is based on the evidence, you didn't and couldn't have made all that much money.....Not a real living wager. You would have needed someone paying the bills and supporting you. WHICH, BTW is the exact conclusion mots others that have some idea about it came to.

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So let me get this straight. You made it all up. LOL.

Of course you did.

You are one sick clown. If you did any research, you'd find that the first year I was in the Satellite Cable Handicap, televised out of Buffalo, I got off to a 17-2-1 ATS start. I had to slot people to call me, there were so many sign-ups. In other words, I had to have people call me in 10-minute brackets so everyone could get through.

In addition, I am a college football specialist, which means I have a 100-day season. The rest of the year, I do other things. Like writing, editing, and yes, occasionally doing things like writing proposals for security companies. Hell, I've actually worked security at clubs. I've officiated high school basketball (I know coach loves this). One year I officiated 50 intramural games for State College High because it paid well. I got to throw Paterno's son out of two games.

My late wife died 25 years ago, by the way. Tough to lean on your wife for income when she's been in the grave 25 years.

For anyone interested, my late wife had a double doctorate and out-earned me most years. She was a subcontractor for the Army. She then took a 40% pay cut so she could teach college students, which I supported. Unfortunately, two years after taking the college job, she got cancer.

I'm glad kewlJ took this shot at me. It exposes him for the idiot he is. And for the snivelling, belly-crawling scumbag that he is.

I guess you are in luck Redietz. I just heard from Kim Lee and he says he is done here. So I guess he won't be back to dispute your made up lies. Not that anyone can ever win with you trolls anyway.

During the course of the exchange, he did mention that Mdawg had emailed him. He didn't say, but let me guess. Dawg emailed him pestering him for details about me just like dawg did to Hunter Hill. Boy that is stalker-ish shit dawg. But then you really are a trollish stalker.

This got me thinking . Dawg likes to claim he met Wizard who witnessed one short session of his play, at much lower stakes than dawg claims online. One witness for what an hour, one short session, one time.

Well despite my strong desire to be and remain as anonymous as I can, I have had two people at WoV claim they met me and watched me play, MULTIPLE times. One I forget the handle he used, and am not going to say his real name, but a well known manager of a long running blackjack team.

The second Hunter Hill who made not one but 2 posts several years apart saying he had met me. (I actually had forgotten about his first post, because he didn't elaborate, just answer Billryan, that yes he had met me), The second post several years later he elaborated that he met me in Atlantic City 20 years ago and has seen me play several times since in Las Vegas.

Between the TWO guys, having seen me play multiple times, that is more than your one witness that watched you play, Dawg fairly low stakes for 45 minutes so you could win a free roll bet. Should I be running around claimed "verified"? :confused: BTW, I dont want to be verified. I work hard at remaining the opposite. :D

And really I suspect these guys are only the tip of the iceberg of who knows me and knows who I am. Kim Lee made a comment to Red that he has friends that moved to Las Vegas and made a lot of money (referencing me). I haven't met Kim Lee personally, but he would not have made that comment off the cuff, I don't think. I'll bet he knows people that know me or of me, enough to know I have made what I say.

A couple guys on this forum seem to know people and know people who know people. (that is the way this community works). I wouldn't be surprised if both know someone that knows me and could lead them right to me. I am speaking of mickeycrimm and Boz. I could be wrong, but I wouldn't be surprised. I also always thought that about Axelwolf, but I take him at his word that he doesn't. But maybe I can find him now (I already think I could have). What is his crew...the coin boys or something?

The problem is and it's not really a problem, but the situation is that Las Vegas despite 2 million people is a small community gambling-wise. people know one another and of one another ect. And that is both sides of the table, which is why I am super careful.

Anyway, Dawg I have 2 people at WoV that have seen me play multiple times. You have one guy that saw you play low limit once. How do you like those apples? :confused: Won't stop your lies I am sure. But you better stop this stalking activity of asking people for descriptions and information on me, or somebody might just get hurt. Take THAT to the bank.

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Originally Posted by redietz

For anyone interested, my late wife had a double doctorate and out-earned me most years. She was a subcontractor for the Army.

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Ah, then as you're of retirement age you can opt to draw a benefit which would be one-half of what she'd have been eligible for, so long as you were married at least ten years before she passed and you haven't remarried.

For a double-doc with high earnings that could well be how you pull it off today, especially given what seems to be your spotty employment earnings history.

Just speculating, no offense intended.