The witnesses are not testifying to an event that they each witnessed, they are testifying to having read what someone else wrote.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
That's hearsay.
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The witnesses are not testifying to an event that they each witnessed, they are testifying to having read what someone else wrote.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
That's hearsay.
Kew if you can't find that Country Coach had a business 7 or 8 years ago then you are the absolute dumbest idiot that claims to have a brain. I do believe there is a "Country Coach" sub-model out there, but it may or may not have something to do with the dealership where we bought it.
I have to assume your willingness to portray yourself as a moron is your way of battling frustration, whereas max is an erupting pimple.
Uh-oh.....he's not gonna LIKE that.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyThe witnesses are not testifying to an event that they each witnessed, they are testifying to having read what someone else wrote.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
That's hearsay.
You say stupid shit like this as if this offends me. I didn't vote for the democratic Governor. Never cared for the man actually. After the Novemeber 1 shooting he was on the news every single day, every news conference like he was someone. He was a county commissioner...big deal. No one cared what a county commissioner had to say. We wanted to hear from the Sherrif and FBI what they were doing or learning. This dude used that shooting to get his mug on TV for a couple weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
And as far as Arizona, while I am not all that political, I am a republican, not a trump supporter, but a republican. And as I republican I am concerned about Arizona. They just elected a democratic Senator and are likely to elect a second democratic senator this year as the astronaut guy is running way ahead of the goofy woman that was given (not elected) to the job when Kyl retired. It also looks like Arizona may very well flip blue this presidential election for the first time in a long time. So I would be concerned about how long you will have a republican governor with the way the state is trending.
As a republican I am concerned about not only Arizona, but Georgia and even Texas. These states are trending blue. Maybe not this year, but at some point these states are going to turn blue. And when they do (especially Texas), that will be the end of competitive presidential elections for a while. At your age, may not effect you, but I am concerned.
Let me see if I read this right: You're CONCERNED about Az.?.Why? You actually think someone with the medical issues you have is gonna live long enuf to see any difference evolve?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJYou say stupid shit like this as if this offends me. I didn't vote for the democratic Governor. Never cared for the man actually. After the Novemeber 1 shooting he was on the news every single day, every news conference like he was someone. He was a county commissioner...big deal. No one cared what a county commissioner had to say. We wanted to hear from the Sherrif and FBI what they were doing or learning. This dude used that shooting to get his mug on TV for a couple weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
And as far as Arizona, while I am not all that political, I am a republican, not a trump supporter, but a republican. And as I republican I am concerned about Arizona. They just elected a democratic Senator and are likely to elect a second democratic senator this year as the astronaut guy is running way ahead of the goofy woman that was given (not elected) to the job when Kyl retired. It also looks like Arizona may very well flip blue this presidential election for the first time in a long time. So I would be concerned about how long you will have a republican governor with the way the state is trending.
As a republican I am concerned about not only Arizona, but Georgia and even Texas. These states are trending blue. Maybe not this year, but at some point these states are going to turn blue. And when they do (especially Texas), that will be the end of competitive presidential elections for a while. At your age, may not effect you, but I am concerned.
I'm going to be looking for a buyer of our big Class A late in the year. I prefer the truck and camper route, which we already have. It has a high maintenance cost, storage requires an electrical hookup, inside is best to protect the shades and awnings, insurance is kinda high, and the yearly registration in Nevada would be around $16,000.
YOU would be the perfect buyer. A renter headed nowhere but needs a serious upgrade in life. In fact, maybe you and Andrew could combine on it. He hasn't has ANY luck with women over the years, so maybe you're just the ticket!
See you can say stupid shit like this if it makes you feel better but people have clearly looked me up via Real Estate records and know the truth. Besides Mr. Looney tunes who posts at the funny farm, who did exactly that to find where I live, I am pretty sure some of my AP friends and comrades have done so, just out of curiosity and because they could. So you can continue to say stupid shit that you and everyone knows isn't true, but it just makes you look foolish, or should I say foolish-er!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Oh but I see that it is okay for you to say stupid shit to Singer such as:Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJSee you can say stupid shit like this if it makes you feel better but people have clearly looked me up via Real Estate records and know the truth. Besides Mr. Looney tunes who posts at the funny farm, who did exactly that to find where I live, I am pretty sure some of my AP friends and comrades have done so, just out of curiosity and because they could. So you can continue to say stupid shit that you and everyone knows isn't true, but it just makes you look foolish, or should I say foolish-er!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
"At your age, may not effect you, but I am concerned."
Suddenly you are a fortune-teller. Life throws plenty of curveballs don't be so sure.
Yeah, a little bit of a dig. So sue me. ;) I mean don't we all do that....all... Bosox?Quote:
Originally Posted by BoSoxOh but I see that it is okay for you to say stupid shit to Singer such as:Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJSee you can say stupid shit like this if it makes you feel better but people have clearly looked me up via Real Estate records and know the truth. Besides Mr. Looney tunes who posts at the funny farm, who did exactly that to find where I live, I am pretty sure some of my AP friends and comrades have done so, just out of curiosity and because they could. So you can continue to say stupid shit that you and everyone knows isn't true, but it just makes you look foolish, or should I say foolish-er!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
[B]At your age, may not effect you, but I am concerned. [B]
Suddenly you are a fortune-teller. Life throws plenty of curveballs don't be so sure.
I mean I am not saying Singer is broke, or homeless or something I know is not true.
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Originally Posted by kewlJYeah, a little bit of a dig. So sue me. ;) I mean don't we all do that....all... Bosox?Quote:
Originally Posted by BoSoxOh but I see that it is okay for you to say stupid shit to Singer such as:Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
[B]At your age, may not effect you, but I am concerned. [B]
Suddenly you are a fortune-teller. Life throws plenty of curveballs don't be so sure.
I mean I am not saying Singer is broke, or homeless or something I know is not true.
I mean if you want to criticize me, you can criticize me for saying your buddy Moses was homeless. I was wrong about that. He is able to rent a room or efficiency or that type of place. He even slipped up and said something about "his room" during this stay at home shutdown. I was a little off because he hangs out in a casino all day with a group of homeless dudes. All local type casinos have such a group. :rolleyes:
So I was just wrong that Mo-Mo isn't homeless, he actually can afford to rent a room. Now we can argue whether he can afford that because of his red chip blackjack play or has an uncle (Sammy) that is taking care of him. Well, YOU can argue....I know for a fact. :cool: Anyway I hope Mo-Mo is safe during this. Rob too. Even you BoSox. BTW, why do I have to do all this forum detective stuff? Isn't that your job?
KewlJ, you have written this same type post numerous times about Moses and frankly I wish he would just ignore you. Instead he takes the bait "which you greatly enjoy" and runs with it. Compounding all of this he gets angry trying to defend himself against your sick humor. The angrier he gets the more you get worked up and masterbate.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJQuote:
Originally Posted by kewlJYeah, a little bit of a dig. So sue me. ;) I mean don't we all do that....all... Bosox?Quote:
Originally Posted by BoSox
I mean I am not saying Singer is broke, or homeless or something I know is not true.
I mean if you want to criticize me, you can criticize me for saying your buddy Moses was homeless. I was wrong about that. He is able to rent a room or efficiency or that type of place. He even slipped up and said something about "his room" during this stay at home shutdown. I was a little off because he hangs out in a casino all day with a group of homeless dudes. All local type casinos have such a group. :rolleyes:
So I was just wrong that Mo-Mo isn't homeless, he actually can afford to rent a room. Now we can argue whether he can afford that because of his red chip blackjack play or has an uncle (Sammy) that is taking care of him. Well, YOU can argue....I know for a fact. :cool: Anyway I hope Mo-Mo is safe during this. Rob too. Even you BoSox. BTW, why do I have to do all this forum detective stuff? Isn't that your job?
Is that right? Interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoSox
I have no doubt he's made significantly more from Advantage play than he has the other stuff. I would be very surprised if he wasn't making a decent amount from all the other stuff by now, especially with the classes. And I have no clue and I'm just talking out my ass. If he's doing all this other stuff for pennies, God bless him.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmBob has always said he filed taxes as a professional gambler. In order to do that then the majority of his income had to have been from gambling, not from selling products. I personally don't think there is that much money in it. Frank Kneeland told me he didn't make any money on his book either.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfBook good for him, bad for us.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
The book may have lost money in and of itself, but I'm sure that led to making money with his software, classes, and other various things.
I was curious about book sales so asked questions of both Dancer and Kneeland who were both pushing me to write a book to be published by the publisher for Las Vegas Adviser (can't remember the name). But after collecting some information, as Coach would put it, I said to hell with that. I'm not wasting all that time and energy for nothing. I've given a lot of the information away in the forums.
Can you send me your package? And I'm talking about the package with all your sports betting information?Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzQuote:
Originally Posted by MaxPenYou have to admit all but one of those stories are highly believable.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Especially when background checks of our resident public multi-millionaire show no assets of any significance besides a few beat vehicles registered in his name. Along with other derogatory info that doesn't compute with the narrative.
I get to put together another package? Great!! Where am I sending it? Mickey, what's your address?
Um, mickey, you helped me post my "Tipsters or Gypsters?" records in the Retro Road Trip thread. You want to repost them for me? I appreciated your reorienting them for me. I am bad with this online posting stuff. And those futures tickets...oh yeah, they were my late cousin's, E.R. Dietz. Well, we could post them anyway. And Alan has a package somewhere with some cool stuff in it.
The thing about sports handicapping. Your record is pretty much public. Everybody knows when you've had a bang-up season or sucked to hell.
By the way, E.R. Dietz will be coming back from the dead soon, sort of a tribute to MDawg. Probably at WoV. I'll give you a heads up. He needs to learn to post photos. It'll be a humor thread.
FYI, back when mickey was helping me prove my personal history, E.R. Dietz (my late cousin) posted some very impressive futures tickets. Somebody should probably look those up. The thing about E.R. -- he always made a killing in sports, but then he'd find ways to blow it. Since he's coming back from the dead, he'll be explaining this stuff at WoV. He's kind of the Super Dave of sports betting.
Enemies of Singer that report they seen something is not credible evidence. And I don't recall several people saying they saw anything about food stamps. The first I heard of it was from YOU.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJHere is the problem for you coach belly. When you have multiple people that saw or witnessed the same thing, that is known as corroborating witnesses and carries much more weight than 1 person saying that never happened (or having all kinds of excuses for the things he couldn't get removed).Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellySee how this works both ways?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
And in this case it isn't just MaxPen and I, there were others. I can't remember who right now and am not going to go back and look but there were at least 1 or 2 others that mentioned they saw these reports in the last couple years. And there were at least 1 or 2 from years ago before my time, that investigated and saw these reports. Was it Arci or armede$ or someone like that? And really anyone can take a look that wants to. YOU just don't want to and that says a lot right there. You don't want to see what you will find. You would rather just play your little coach belly games.
So you are talking 4,5,6 people that saw these reports, probably more people than that, but 4, 5, 6 that have publicly admitted they saw these report. That is a lot of corroborating witnesses. I wouldn't want you for an attorney or I'd be sitting in jail, because of substantial evidence and witnesses while you play your little games. :rolleyes:
uncut?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJThis shows that you have no clue what you are talking about Monet. Dan has a fairly small dick and there is no way it would even reach down my throat.Quote:
Originally Posted by monet
BoSox, you want to paint me to be the bad guy, picking on Mo-Mo at the Funny Farm. Yes, I do pick on Mo-Mo, but only in response to his attacks and trying to discredit me for years on many forums, some you may not even be aware of.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoSox
I just admitted I was wrong about the homeless thing. He has some sort of income and is able to keep a roof over his head. But here's the thing. This time last year you too were making references about Moses being homeless. And when Moses joined this forum as a sockpuppet posing as his GF, what was it UCFX or something like that, you and UCFX went at it pretty good. You had some pretty nasty things to say to UCFX as well as some nasty comments about another rolling around inside Moses head, Tater. AND Moses, posting as this girlfriend had some pretty unkind things to say about you. I can post these if you have forgotten because I do know how to quote. I have no need to do that to you. But maybe you should go back and read. :rolleyes:
The bigger point BoSox, is how YOU have changed. Your switch, which has been noticed on several forums. It still isn't clear to anyone what your issue is. You claim you don't like that I have shared my experiences including annual results. I don't know what to tell you, I have done that for a decade and said I was going to do just that, share my journey as best I could to show just what kind of money and living a mid-level grinder blackjack AP could make. It makes no sense that this offends you. I am pretty sure it is something else. But whatever it is get over it BoSox. I don't need you supporting me or being my friend if you don't want to but, somehow try to make your way back to the level-headed reasonable guy you used to be, before whatever bug crawled up your ass crawled up there. Find your way home BoSox.
The "goofy woman" you refer to was a fighter pilot. And if you are a republican then I am Santa Claus. GTFO!!Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJYou say stupid shit like this as if this offends me. I didn't vote for the democratic Governor. Never cared for the man actually. After the Novemeber 1 shooting he was on the news every single day, every news conference like he was someone. He was a county commissioner...big deal. No one cared what a county commissioner had to say. We wanted to hear from the Sherrif and FBI what they were doing or learning. This dude used that shooting to get his mug on TV for a couple weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
And as far as Arizona, while I am not all that political, I am a republican, not a trump supporter, but a republican. And as I republican I am concerned about Arizona. They just elected a democratic Senator and are likely to elect a second democratic senator this year as the astronaut guy is running way ahead of the goofy woman that was given (not elected) to the job when Kyl retired. It also looks like Arizona may very well flip blue this presidential election for the first time in a long time. So I would be concerned about how long you will have a republican governor with the way the state is trending.
As a republican I am concerned about not only Arizona, but Georgia and even Texas. These states are trending blue. Maybe not this year, but at some point these states are going to turn blue. And when they do (especially Texas), that will be the end of competitive presidential elections for a while. At your age, may not effect you, but I am concerned.
He once wrote an article about having a 40K a year contract to consult with one of the chain casinos and how he lost the gig. Said he only had to do about a months work for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfI have no doubt he's made significantly more from Advantage play than he has the other stuff. I would be very surprised if he wasn't making a decent amount from all the other stuff by now, especially with the classes. And I have no clue and I'm just talking out my ass. If he's doing all this other stuff for pennies, God bless him.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmBob has always said he filed taxes as a professional gambler. In order to do that then the majority of his income had to have been from gambling, not from selling products. I personally don't think there is that much money in it. Frank Kneeland told me he didn't make any money on his book either.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
I was curious about book sales so asked questions of both Dancer and Kneeland who were both pushing me to write a book to be published by the publisher for Las Vegas Adviser (can't remember the name). But after collecting some information, as Coach would put it, I said to hell with that. I'm not wasting all that time and energy for nothing. I've given a lot of the information away in the forums.
If this interview is anything like the first one he did with you, it's going to be pointless and get nowhere. I made a few suggestions to Mike, however, if he's setting it up within a week, I highly doubt my suggestions will take place. Rob, I asked that sometime in the future you reserve another interview that I'm involved with personally. A simple Q&A of you telling your story is not going to get to the bottom of this whatsoever. There needs to be much more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Come on, he's Jewish. You know that answer. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfuncut?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJThis shows that you have no clue what you are talking about Monet. Dan has a fairly small dick and there is no way it would even reach down my throat.Quote:
Originally Posted by monet
Lol. This gets the award for the post of the day, maybe the post of the week.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmThe "goofy woman" you refer to was a fighter pilot. And if you are a republican then I am Santa Claus. GTFO!!Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJYou say stupid shit like this as if this offends me. I didn't vote for the democratic Governor. Never cared for the man actually. After the Novemeber 1 shooting he was on the news every single day, every news conference like he was someone. He was a county commissioner...big deal. No one cared what a county commissioner had to say. We wanted to hear from the Sherrif and FBI what they were doing or learning. This dude used that shooting to get his mug on TV for a couple weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
And as far as Arizona, while I am not all that political, I am a republican, not a trump supporter, but a republican. And as I republican I am concerned about Arizona. They just elected a democratic Senator and are likely to elect a second democratic senator this year as the astronaut guy is running way ahead of the goofy woman that was given (not elected) to the job when Kyl retired. It also looks like Arizona may very well flip blue this presidential election for the first time in a long time. So I would be concerned about how long you will have a republican governor with the way the state is trending.
As a republican I am concerned about not only Arizona, but Georgia and even Texas. These states are trending blue. Maybe not this year, but at some point these states are going to turn blue. And when they do (especially Texas), that will be the end of competitive presidential elections for a while. At your age, may not effect you, but I am concerned.
Can I ask what exactly is the purpose of this? Is Mike trying or intending to get to the bottom of this? And what exactly are we talking about getting to the bottom of? All Rob's claims? I mean the thread Alan started over there (at WoV) was about Rob's Progression wagering system with special plays. THAT is what Alan claims Rob told him was BS. Now over here discussion sort of evolved back to the double up bug claim. And while they are separate claims and there are some distinct differences, like the double-up is mathematically possible, so it clears that hurdle whereas the Singer system claim does not, I really consider them both just different parts of fantasy claims. So what exactly are Mike and Rob going to be discussing and trying to get to the bottom of?Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
Of course Moses and I had plenty of battles in the past with differences. You will find out that if you confront him on a site where he can return replys you will be better off in the long run. After a period of time went by without bickering at each other, I was continuing to follow his posts and realized that we both have plenty in common, regardless that he plays single deck games, and that I play shoes.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJBoSox, you want to paint me to be the bad guy, picking on Mo-Mo at the Funny Farm. Yes, I do pick on Mo-Mo, but only in response to his attacks and trying to discredit me for years on many forums, some you may not even be aware of.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoSox
I just admitted I was wrong about the homeless thing. He has some sort of income and is able to keep a roof over his head. But here's the thing. This time last year you too were making references about Moses being homeless. And when Moses joined this forum as a sockpuppet posing as his GF, what was it UCFX or something like that, you and UCFX went at it pretty good. You had some pretty nasty things to say to UCFX as well as some nasty comments about another rolling around inside Moses head, Tater. AND Moses, posting as this girlfriend had some pretty unkind things to say about you. I can post these if you have forgotten because I do know how to quote. I have no need to do that to you. But maybe you should go back and read. :rolleyes:
The bigger point BoSox, is how YOU have changed. Your switch, which has been noticed on several forums. It still isn't clear to anyone what your issue is. You claim you don't like that I have shared my experiences including annual results. I don't know what to tell you, I have done that for a decade and said I was going to do just that, share my journey as best I could to show just what kind of money and living a mid-level grinder blackjack AP could make. It makes no sense that this offends you. I am pretty sure it is something else. But whatever it is get over it BoSox. I don't need you supporting me or being my friend if you don't want to but, somehow try to make your way back to the level-headed reasonable guy you used to be, before whatever bug crawled up your ass crawled up there. Find your way home BoSox.
Wrongo Kj. The double-up has nothing to do with math. It has to do with a “bug”. There was a “bug” in the program that could be exploited.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
There are only two ways to find “bugs” and neither one has to do with math. You either find them by being drunk off your rocker and pressing random buttons for no apperent reason after you’ve won, or by professional “bug” hunters.
But “bugs” are not found by the math people. Let’s get that straight!
Bugs are found by math people who realize certain aspects about programming and know what to look for. Bugs are found buy Advantage players who know what to look for oftentimes after finding one by chance. Of course there's math involved, you can calculate your advantage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob21Wrongo Kj. The double-up has nothing to do with math. It has to do with a “bug”. There was a “bug” in the program that could be exploited.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
There are only two ways to find “bugs” and neither one has to do with math. You either find them by being drunk off your rocker and pressing random buttons for no apperent reason after you’ve won, or by professional “bug” hunters.
But “bugs” are not found by the math people. Let’s get that straight!
If the interview with Shack is a failure, you should interview Singer. Your gambling expertise is as credible as Shacks.(Mickey can also be a viable option)Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfIf this interview is anything like the first one he did with you, it's going to be pointless and get nowhere. I made a few suggestions to Mike, however, if he's setting it up within a week, I highly doubt my suggestions will take place. Rob, I asked that sometime in the future you reserve another interview that I'm involved with personally. A simple Q&A of you telling your story is not going to get to the bottom of this whatsoever. There needs to be much more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
The DUB.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJCan I ask what exactly is the purpose of this? Is Mike trying or intending to get to the bottom of this? And what exactly are we talking about getting to the bottom of? All Rob's claims? I mean the thread Alan started over there (at WoV) was about Rob's Progression wagering system with special plays. THAT is what Alan claims Rob told him was BS. Now over here discussion sort of evolved back to the double up bug claim. And while they are separate claims and there are some distinct differences, like the double-up is mathematically possible, so it clears that hurdle whereas the Singer system claim does not, I really consider them both just different parts of fantasy claims. So what exactly are Mike and Rob going to be discussing and trying to get to the bottom of?Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
Axel I don't 100% know the specifics of this interview but I have no problem with it. And I think another one down the road with you and I present with Mike (& Heather) would be a good idea. If I'm grilled about my strategy, my realtionship with Alan, or the DU play I can handle it. There's no one alive that knows my strategy or that play better than me.
Kew, I think I read where Alan at first was saying he felt deceived because I did not play my strategy, then he changed it to "3 years + $300k" because of what he read over here. But even that's wrong, as usual. But any of the aforementioned topics could come up.
Either way, I'll put in a good word for you.
Thank you, but I certainly don't think my knowledge about game math is anywhere close to his, and no doubt there's some areas he understands better than me(I have no clue how to play pai gow tiles). I wouldn't doubt that I'm better at exploiting something that has an advantage and seeing some type of angle that is an obvious with some outside of the Box thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by OzzyIf the interview with Shack is a failure, you should interview Singer. Your gambling expertise is as credible as Shacks.(Mickey can also be a viable option)Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfIf this interview is anything like the first one he did with you, it's going to be pointless and get nowhere. I made a few suggestions to Mike, however, if he's setting it up within a week, I highly doubt my suggestions will take place. Rob, I asked that sometime in the future you reserve another interview that I'm involved with personally. A simple Q&A of you telling your story is not going to get to the bottom of this whatsoever. There needs to be much more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Having a conversation with Rob and asking him questions about the play isn't really going to get anywhere. What question could be asked that hasn't been asked already? Unless Rob can provide Something song there's no way he can prove he actually played this. Perhaps Rob has an Ace in the Hole that he's been holding back. Personally I believe there would have to be a much more in-depth investigation such as contacting IGT and putting together a timeline. For instance, what if just prior to Rob announcing that he played this we find a paper trail of him purchasing this model the potentially have the double up bug? Or if we come to find out that he already owned one? Or what if a gaming agent actually had knowledge and Rob was in fact on her radar. What if we could get copies of W2'g somehow? Perhaps a particular employee remembers him. I'm going to leave at that(there would have to be some surprises) I think there's quite a few other things that can be done that would at least put together a good enough picture to convince everyone (sane) one way or the other.
I too have considered and wondered about the possibility that Rob has some information, something that might at least go towards verifying his claim, regarding the double up bug. That is the only one worth talking about, the other claim just is silly. From the time he announced this double up bug claim, Rob has sought a bigger stage than VCT to discuss or promote this claim. Anything from GWAE to an interview with Mike to....whatever else he has in mind. So I have been wondering if he has been holding out some info or "proof" for a lack of a better term. I don't really know if there is definitive proof, but possibly and I think it is a very long shot, maybe some kind of "supporting evidence", like has been discussed in the last 2 days.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
Look, the ideal solution would have been tax records and casino W-2 and paperwork. Rob immediately nixed this by saying he threw all that away, which to me makes no sense. And I am trying to be objective here. Rob talks about concerns with the Statue of Limitations as a reason he would have gotten rid of these records as quickly as he could. That doesn't make sense to me. Anyone coming after him, whether some sort of law enforcement or even IRS, wouldn't need HIS records. That would already have copies of everything he had and claims to have gotten rid of. Getting rid of those records wasn't getting rid of evidence, that could some how protect him. That is silly. But it sure is convenient as to why he can't show them now to back up his claim. :rolleyes:
Now in the absence of tax records and casino documentation, the only other thing that makes sense is some sort of financial records of what he did with at least some of the money. receipts of big ticket items, including real estate. Rob has always claimed he bought house and put them in the names of his daughter. Right or wrong that some of us have looked into that, the houses in his daughters name just are not paid for as he claims. There are large mortagages owed on both, one more than the property is currently worth. This just doesn't fly either. It really doesn't.
That brings up to the final thing. Rob has talked about owning an expensive RV or two? for years. Only recently did he mention that was bought with "double-up bug" money. So if the timing was right, that could be some sort of supporting evidence, as Alan/Andrew was getting at in the other thread that he started here. But so far Rob has not been receptive to the idea of providing a receipt.
Now as I have always said Rob is under no obligation to provide proof. He is not on trial. But he is the one that floated this claim (double up bug) out of the blue last year and there are just very few that believe him, as evident of the poll and comments at WoV. Based on his long history, if he wants people to believe him, he has to show something. Maybe he is just holding out for the BIG platform to do so.
axel, disregarding the ongoing nonsensical obsession of kew that's littered with false bs---whatever anybody wants to do would be under no objection of mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfThank you, but I certainly don't think my knowledge about game math is anywhere close to his, and no doubt there's some areas he understands better than me(I have no clue how to play pai gow tiles). I wouldn't doubt that I'm better at exploiting something that has an advantage and seeing some type of angle that is an obvious with some outside of the Box thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by OzzyIf the interview with Shack is a failure, you should interview Singer. Your gambling expertise is as credible as Shacks.(Mickey can also be a viable option)Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
Having a conversation with Rob and asking him questions about the play isn't really going to get anywhere. What question could be asked that hasn't been asked already? Unless Rob can provide Something song there's no way he can prove he actually played this. Perhaps Rob has an Ace in the Hole that he's been holding back. Personally I believe there would have to be a much more in-depth investigation such as contacting IGT and putting together a timeline. For instance, what if just prior to Rob announcing that he played this we find a paper trail of him purchasing this model the potentially have the double up bug? Or if we come to find out that he already owned one? Or what if a gaming agent actually had knowledge and Rob was in fact on her radar. What if we could get copies of W2'g somehow? Perhaps a particular employee remembers him. I'm going to leave at that(there would have to be some surprises) I think there's quite a few other things that can be done that would at least put together a good enough picture to convince everyone (sane) one way or the other.
I'm aware that Mike may ask me some questions about the double up play, but would he ask me to provide proof of anything? No idea on that. But whatever that means to him would have to translate to direct proof, and not by assuming things based on what I've bought or what's in my brokerage account, etc. All that would do is lead the haters to then claim I could have bought this car or that house or RV with money I had. Of course, they'll say it proves it BEFORE I release it. Once I do, their tune will immediately change. So that stuff's never gonna happen.
I must have read a dozen posts where kew continually claims he doesn't have to provide proof of his silly claims of always winning. But if he does I'll do it also. And if he wants to post proof of his welfare bs, I'll post more proof of whatever he wants. It's all up to him.
Rob, first I never said a thing about welfare or welfare fraud. I don't know if someone else used those terms or you have a guilty conscience or what, but I never used those term. What I saw said something about food stamps and that you were temporarily banned from the program for a number of years. I mean, I guess food stamps is part of the welfare program and welfare system, I really don't know. I only stated what I saw...BUT is no longer part of the record. I am assuming you had it removed. I really have no idea how any of that works.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
So as I just said and have said a hundred times now, I don't have any proof of what I and others previously saw. I didn't make copies of your personal records and information. It is bad enough that I looked at it. :cool: So based on that I can't prove it at this time, people are free to believe me or not believe me. Nothing I can do about that.
But YOU and coach belly, continuing to insist that I release something that I have repeatedly said I don't have, as a condition of you releasing something is bizarre. It really isn't bizarre, but rather typical of you. Any kind of situation or bet that requires you to put up any thing, you always attach conditions that can not possible met, which leaves you free not to put up. And then you blame the other party. Your games are not new. We have all seen them over and over. It is the same old 20-year troll.
Now regarding, you releasing proof of the RV sale, which we all know you will not do: If I am honest, I don't know that would be convincing evidence for me. Not with everything I know of and about you. If I am honest, I think I would still have my strong doubts. But I said I would accept that as evidence and I would. I would keep any doubts to myself, stop all the public back and forth, congratulate you and move on. Alan has said likewise, through Andrew, odd as that is. ;)
So you get to put this to bed and claim victory just by showing this 1.5 million receipt for this RV. Even if you bought the RV will a lifetime of savings from the good government jobs that you have, you STILL get to put this to bed and claim victory. What more could you ask for? You should be jumping at this. The fact that you are not speaks volumes.
You THINK you read that Mr Alan said you didn't play "your strategy"? Please show where?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
The information on his website on the "Alan's Notebook" page and the information posted on the Wizard of Vegas website is very clear. He said you changed your story. He said you confessed to him that you played your strategy for about three years profiting about $300,000. He made no statements that said you never played your strategy.
In your fervor to defend yourself over not having proof about the double up bug you launched a campaign to humiliate him and attacked him and his family.
Can anyone FIND ANY PROOF that Mr Alan said you did not play your strategy for about three years profiting about $300,000 ?
Come on now all you proof demanders: CAN ANYONE FIND EVEN ONE INSTANCE WHERE MR ALAN SAID MR SINGER DID NOT PLAY HIS STRATEGY FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS PROFITING ABOUT $300,000 ?
It seems to me you, Mr Singer, owe him an apology for your attacks based on incorrect information.
Oh god Andrew, I have to defend Rob a little on this one. Thank you for that. :oQuote:
Originally Posted by AndrewG
When I first read your (or make that Alan's) post at WoV, I mistakenly thought you were saying you were mad because Rob had told you he never played the Singer, whatever you call it VP system. And I posted something to that effect here, maybe several times I believe. It was a day later that I re=read your initial post over there and realized I had misinterpreted what you were saying and that instead you were mad that Rob had changed his story from 10 years to 3 or 4. So Rob may very well have repeated what I erroneously said. I take full responsibility for that and for that I apologize to you. If you feel you need an additional apology from Rob, that is between the two of you.
Thank you Mr Kewlj. Let's see if Mr Singer will acknowledge this or if he'll call me an ambulance chaser again?
This is probably the first time you ever got something right about me. I did in fact repeat what you said.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJOh god Andrew, I have to defend Rob a little on this one. Thank you for that. :oQuote:
Originally Posted by AndrewG
When I first read your (or make that Alan's) post at WoV, I mistakenly thought you were saying you were mad because Rob had told you he never played the Singer, whatever you call it VP system. And I posted something to that effect here, maybe several times I believe. It was a day later that I re=read your initial post over there and realized I had misinterpreted what you were saying and that instead you were mad that Rob had changed his story from 10 years to 3 or 4. So Rob may very well have repeated what I erroneously said. I take full responsibility for that and for that I apologize to you. If you feel you need an additional apology from Rob, that is between the two of you.
However, Alan, with his very inept ways, lied about it being 3 years/$300k. It wasn't. This is the kind of ambulance-chasing/breaking news hack he is. You already know he fabricated the "18 yo's", and he created the dice problem argument just to be in the limelight. If there's a movie to be made, it should be a tear-jerker about him and his antics.
Here is exactly what Mr Alan posted. Now suppose we were in court, why don't you detail the alleged lie?
" He did say that the system he presented to me did produce profits of about $300,000 over three years,"
Because Alan, you are as thick as they come, and I never told you it was 3 years/$300k. If you have been reading as much as you claim to have read here, you'd have never seen me post that I won $300k over 3 years, and you would have seen me post at least a dozen times that it was $375k over FOUR years.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewG
I'm glad you wrote this Mr Singer. We'd be very open to having both statements presented to a jury so they could decide if Mr Alan's statement on his website and on WOV was a lie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.SingerBecause Alan, you are as thick as they come, and I never told you it was 3 years/$300k. If you have been reading as much as you claim to have read here, you'd have never seen me post that I won $300k over 3 years, and you would have seen me post at least a dozen times that it was $375k over FOUR years.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewG
At the same time are you prepared for your various comments about him and his family to be presented to a jury?
I'm flattered that you take such an interest in my personal life. It's really quite impressive overall and I consider myself a big over-achiever. But for God's sake, why can't you ever get things right?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJRob, first I never said a thing about welfare or welfare fraud. I don't know if someone else used those terms or you have a guilty conscience or what, but I never used those term. What I saw said something about food stamps and that you were temporarily banned from the program for a number of years. I mean, I guess food stamps is part of the welfare program and welfare system, I really don't know. I only stated what I saw...BUT is no longer part of the record. I am assuming you had it removed. I really have no idea how any of that works.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
So as I just said and have said a hundred times now, I don't have any proof of what I and others previously saw. I didn't make copies of your personal records and information. It is bad enough that I looked at it. :cool: So based on that I can't prove it at this time, people are free to believe me or not believe me. Nothing I can do about that.
But YOU and coach belly, continuing to insist that I release something that I have repeatedly said I don't have, as a condition of you releasing something is bizarre. It really isn't bizarre, but rather typical of you. Any kind of situation or bet that requires you to put up any thing, you always attach conditions that can not possible met, which leaves you free not to put up. And then you blame the other party. Your games are not new. We have all seen them over and over. It is the same old 20-year troll.
Now regarding, you releasing proof of the RV sale, which we all know you will not do: If I am honest, I don't know that would be convincing evidence for me. Not with everything I know of and about you. If I am honest, I think I would still have my strong doubts. But I said I would accept that as evidence and I would. I would keep any doubts to myself, stop all the public back and forth, congratulate you and move on. Alan has said likewise, through Andrew, odd as that is. ;)
So you get to put this to bed and claim victory just by showing this 1.5 million receipt for this RV. Even if you bought the RV will a lifetime of savings from the good government jobs that you have, you STILL get to put this to bed and claim victory. What more could you ask for? You should be jumping at this. The fact that you are not speaks volumes.
It wasn't my Govt job that was lucrative--they pay pitiful wages and besides, that began 45 years ago. It does provide a tax-free Govt pension though, because I had a hazardous OCONUS job. The good paying job came in the private sector because I did well in my first job.
I read where you even looked up my daughter (which I thought is a bad-boy offense here). Regardless, in your hurry to paint as bad a picture of me as you can, you only look at the issue from your infant eyes. So many things go into every situation.
She has a bk? No, she's never filed. Her ex-husband did but we kept her out of it. The houses I bought in Phx. were in fact paid for as a way to get them cash--one in each of their (her and her new husband's) name because that's how they wanted it, so they could do equity loans for the purpose of buying even more houses. If you looked her up you'd see they live in a house in Mn. (his name) and the Lake house they're building right now in Wisc. is in her name. I got them a good start, and they're off and running, both with great jobs now. There's another house coming after that. Not something I would do but that's how they're planning for the future.
I've never had anything removed from those background reports, and if you think I can do something like that then you must think I can drive with my eyes closed. There's always bad information on those things. Arci once claimed he found one that said I'd been arrested for a felony of some sort. A lot of baloney in those things, but for someone who wants to find issues then you can always count on them to say virtually anything.
We'll see what Shack asks. I'm not concerned with anything now that ten years have past.
I hope you know how stupid you sound :)Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewGI'm glad you wrote this Mr Singer. We'd be very open to having both statements presented to a jury so they could decide if Mr Alan's statement on his website and on WOV was a lie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.SingerBecause Alan, you are as thick as they come, and I never told you it was 3 years/$300k. If you have been reading as much as you claim to have read here, you'd have never seen me post that I won $300k over 3 years, and you would have seen me post at least a dozen times that it was $375k over FOUR years.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewG
At the same time are you prepared for your various comments about him and his family to be presented to a jury?
Yeah, yeah, all the financial reporting agencies have the wrong information. The bankruptcy in your daughters name isn't her. All the public real estate transaction and financial information is wrong. You have buckets of money that no one knows about. We all know the excuses. But yet no receipt for the 1.5 million dollar RV. Just show that and you shut me up forever. I can't make it any easier. Just like my new signature says. You are light on proof but heavy on excuses. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.SingerI'm flattered that you take such an interest in my personal life. It's really quite impressive overall and I consider myself a big over-achiever. But for God's sake, why can't you ever get things right?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJRob, first I never said a thing about welfare or welfare fraud. I don't know if someone else used those terms or you have a guilty conscience or what, but I never used those term. What I saw said something about food stamps and that you were temporarily banned from the program for a number of years. I mean, I guess food stamps is part of the welfare program and welfare system, I really don't know. I only stated what I saw...BUT is no longer part of the record. I am assuming you had it removed. I really have no idea how any of that works.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
So as I just said and have said a hundred times now, I don't have any proof of what I and others previously saw. I didn't make copies of your personal records and information. It is bad enough that I looked at it. :cool: So based on that I can't prove it at this time, people are free to believe me or not believe me. Nothing I can do about that.
But YOU and coach belly, continuing to insist that I release something that I have repeatedly said I don't have, as a condition of you releasing something is bizarre. It really isn't bizarre, but rather typical of you. Any kind of situation or bet that requires you to put up any thing, you always attach conditions that can not possible met, which leaves you free not to put up. And then you blame the other party. Your games are not new. We have all seen them over and over. It is the same old 20-year troll.
Now regarding, you releasing proof of the RV sale, which we all know you will not do: If I am honest, I don't know that would be convincing evidence for me. Not with everything I know of and about you. If I am honest, I think I would still have my strong doubts. But I said I would accept that as evidence and I would. I would keep any doubts to myself, stop all the public back and forth, congratulate you and move on. Alan has said likewise, through Andrew, odd as that is. ;)
So you get to put this to bed and claim victory just by showing this 1.5 million receipt for this RV. Even if you bought the RV will a lifetime of savings from the good government jobs that you have, you STILL get to put this to bed and claim victory. What more could you ask for? You should be jumping at this. The fact that you are not speaks volumes.
It wasn't my Govt job that was lucrative--they pay pitiful wages and besides, that began 45 years ago. It does provide a tax-free Govt pension though, because I had a hazardous OCONUS job. The good paying job came in the private sector because I did well in my first job.
I read where you even looked up my daughter (which I thought is a bad-boy offense here). Regardless, in your hurry to paint as bad a picture of me as you can, you only look at the issue from your infant eyes. So many things go into every situation.
She has a bk? No, she's never filed. Her ex-husband did but we kept her out of it. The houses I bought in Phx. were in fact paid for as a way to get them cash--one in each of their (her and her new husband's) name because that's how they wanted it, so they could do equity loans for the purpose of buying even more houses. If you looked her up you'd see they live in a house in Mn. (his name) and the Lake house they're building right now in Wisc. is in her name. I got them a good start, and they're off and running, both with great jobs now. There's another house coming after that. Not something I would do but that's how they're planning for the future.
I've never had anything removed from those background reports, and if you think I can do something like that then you must think I can drive with my eyes closed. There's always bad information on those things. Arci once claimed he found one that said I'd been arrested for a felony of some sort. A lot of baloney in those things, but for someone who wants to find issues then you can always count on them to say virtually anything.
We'll see what Shack asks. I'm not concerned with anything now that ten years have past.
KJ, you keep demanding proof when you refuse to put up any proof yourself. Prove you made 80K a year for 16 years or whatever. Easy enough to prove, right. You should have your tax records from 15 years ago around, right. Put them up here. Show us. Quit hiding behind a mask of anonymity but demanding that others should show you something with their name on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJI too have considered and wondered about the possibility that Rob has some information, something that might at least go towards verifying his claim, regarding the double up bug. That is the only one worth talking about, the other claim just is silly. From the time he announced this double up bug claim, Rob has sought a bigger stage than VCT to discuss or promote this claim. Anything from GWAE to an interview with Mike to....whatever else he has in mind. So I have been wondering if he has been holding out some info or "proof" for a lack of a better term. I don't really know if there is definitive proof, but possibly and I think it is a very long shot, maybe some kind of "supporting evidence", like has been discussed in the last 2 days.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
Look, the ideal solution would have been tax records and casino W-2 and paperwork. Rob immediately nixed this by saying he threw all that away, which to me makes no sense. And I am trying to be objective here. Rob talks about concerns with the Statue of Limitations as a reason he would have gotten rid of these records as quickly as he could. That doesn't make sense to me. Anyone coming after him, whether some sort of law enforcement or even IRS, wouldn't need HIS records. That would already have copies of everything he had and claims to have gotten rid of. Getting rid of those records wasn't getting rid of evidence, that could some how protect him. That is silly. But it sure is convenient as to why he can't show them now to back up his claim. :rolleyes:
Now in the absence of tax records and casino documentation, the only other thing that makes sense is some sort of financial records of what he did with at least some of the money. receipts of big ticket items, including real estate. Rob has always claimed he bought house and put them in the names of his daughter. Right or wrong that some of us have looked into that, the houses in his daughters name just are not paid for as he claims. There are large mortagages owed on both, one more than the property is currently worth. This just doesn't fly either. It really doesn't.
That brings up to the final thing. Rob has talked about owning an expensive RV or two? for years. Only recently did he mention that was bought with "double-up bug" money. So if the timing was right, that could be some sort of supporting evidence, as Alan/Andrew was getting at in the other thread that he started here. But so far Rob has not been receptive to the idea of providing a receipt.
Now as I have always said Rob is under no obligation to provide proof. He is not on trial. But he is the one that floated this claim (double up bug) out of the blue last year and there are just very few that believe him, as evident of the poll and comments at WoV. Based on his long history, if he wants people to believe him, he has to show something. Maybe he is just holding out for the BIG platform to do so.
Another thing is the "facts" you come up with. You have a long history of distorting facts. So I take everything you write with a grain of salt. Where did this claim of Rob's daughter still having mortgage on her house come from. And one mortgage where more money is owed on the house than it's worth. This is the first I've heard of it and I"m a religious follower of this forum.
Could you do something simple and put up proof of it? Because of your history I can't take you at your word. Put up proof. And it has to be something other than "of course it's true someone told me" like you've been doing with the food stamp story.
So you don't have any proof of your claims but expect others to put up proof of their claims. Thats called a double standard. It is hypocrisy at it's worst.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJRob, first I never said a thing about welfare or welfare fraud. I don't know if someone else used those terms or you have a guilty conscience or what, but I never used those term. What I saw said something about food stamps and that you were temporarily banned from the program for a number of years. I mean, I guess food stamps is part of the welfare program and welfare system, I really don't know. I only stated what I saw...BUT is no longer part of the record. I am assuming you had it removed. I really have no idea how any of that works.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
So as I just said and have said a hundred times now, I don't have any proof of what I and others previously saw. I didn't make copies of your personal records and information. It is bad enough that I looked at it. :cool: So based on that I can't prove it at this time, people are free to believe me or not believe me. Nothing I can do about that.
But YOU and coach belly, continuing to insist that I release something that I have repeatedly said I don't have, as a condition of you releasing something is bizarre. It really isn't bizarre, but rather typical of you. Any kind of situation or bet that requires you to put up any thing, you always attach conditions that can not possible met, which leaves you free not to put up. And then you blame the other party. Your games are not new. We have all seen them over and over. It is the same old 20-year troll.
Now regarding, you releasing proof of the RV sale, which we all know you will not do: If I am honest, I don't know that would be convincing evidence for me. Not with everything I know of and about you. If I am honest, I think I would still have my strong doubts. But I said I would accept that as evidence and I would. I would keep any doubts to myself, stop all the public back and forth, congratulate you and move on. Alan has said likewise, through Andrew, odd as that is. ;)
So you get to put this to bed and claim victory just by showing this 1.5 million receipt for this RV. Even if you bought the RV will a lifetime of savings from the good government jobs that you have, you STILL get to put this to bed and claim victory. What more could you ask for? You should be jumping at this. The fact that you are not speaks volumes.
It's strange how both Alan and Andrew make the exact same mistake here. Rob said repeatedly that it was 375K. Both Alan and Andrew somehow think it was 300K. What's up with that? How do both these guys, both supposedly reading Rob's claims make the same mistake?Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewGYou THINK you read that Mr Alan said you didn't play "your strategy"? Please show where?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
The information on his website on the "Alan's Notebook" page and the information posted on the Wizard of Vegas website is very clear. He said you changed your story. He said you confessed to him that you played your strategy for about three years profiting about $300,000. He made no statements that said you never played your strategy.
In your fervor to defend yourself over not having proof about the double up bug you launched a campaign to humiliate him and attacked him and his family.
Can anyone FIND ANY PROOF that Mr Alan said you did not play your strategy for about three years profiting about $300,000 ?
Come on now all you proof demanders: CAN ANYONE FIND EVEN ONE INSTANCE WHERE MR ALAN SAID MR SINGER DID NOT PLAY HIS STRATEGY FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS PROFITING ABOUT $300,000 ?
It seems to me you, Mr Singer, owe him an apology for your attacks based on incorrect information.
On twitter Alan told me "Rob lied to me about the whole thing." I pointed out the 375K over 4 years. He didn't respond to me about it but it was subsequent to that he acknowledged it on WoV. Except he said it was 300K, the same mistake Andrew made here.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJOh god Andrew, I have to defend Rob a little on this one. Thank you for that. :oQuote:
Originally Posted by AndrewG
When I first read your (or make that Alan's) post at WoV, I mistakenly thought you were saying you were mad because Rob had told you he never played the Singer, whatever you call it VP system. And I posted something to that effect here, maybe several times I believe. It was a day later that I re=read your initial post over there and realized I had misinterpreted what you were saying and that instead you were mad that Rob had changed his story from 10 years to 3 or 4. So Rob may very well have repeated what I erroneously said. I take full responsibility for that and for that I apologize to you. If you feel you need an additional apology from Rob, that is between the two of you.
Andrew, you've not joined WoV yet. Alan told me he wants you to. It is obvious from all the facts you present that you and Alan are in close contact.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewG
Will you do us all a favor and put some of those facts in the Singer thread on WoV?
Put up proof of the bandruptcy or you're a damn lie.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJYeah, yeah, all the financial reporting agencies have the wrong information. The bankruptcy in your daughters name isn't her. All the public real estate transaction and financial information is wrong. You have buckets of money that no one knows about. We all know the excuses. But yet no receipt for the 1.5 million dollar RV. Just show that and you shut me up forever. I can't make it any easier. Just like my new signature says. You are light on proof but heavy on excuses. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.SingerI'm flattered that you take such an interest in my personal life. It's really quite impressive overall and I consider myself a big over-achiever. But for God's sake, why can't you ever get things right?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
It wasn't my Govt job that was lucrative--they pay pitiful wages and besides, that began 45 years ago. It does provide a tax-free Govt pension though, because I had a hazardous OCONUS job. The good paying job came in the private sector because I did well in my first job.
I read where you even looked up my daughter (which I thought is a bad-boy offense here). Regardless, in your hurry to paint as bad a picture of me as you can, you only look at the issue from your infant eyes. So many things go into every situation.
She has a bk? No, she's never filed. Her ex-husband did but we kept her out of it. The houses I bought in Phx. were in fact paid for as a way to get them cash--one in each of their (her and her new husband's) name because that's how they wanted it, so they could do equity loans for the purpose of buying even more houses. If you looked her up you'd see they live in a house in Mn. (his name) and the Lake house they're building right now in Wisc. is in her name. I got them a good start, and they're off and running, both with great jobs now. There's another house coming after that. Not something I would do but that's how they're planning for the future.
I've never had anything removed from those background reports, and if you think I can do something like that then you must think I can drive with my eyes closed. There's always bad information on those things. Arci once claimed he found one that said I'd been arrested for a felony of some sort. A lot of baloney in those things, but for someone who wants to find issues then you can always count on them to say virtually anything.
We'll see what Shack asks. I'm not concerned with anything now that ten years have past.
How many times has KJ preached about not bringing family members into the feuds on this forum? He's done it a bunch. He must expect others to follow that rule but he himself doesn't have to. Case in point is Rob daughter. KJ has been very very busy looking into the lives of Rob's relatives.
KJ is a HYPOCRITE!!
One way to infuriate kew is to be successful. He couldn't help himself look her up because the more he looks the more he hurts. I know and so does he that Dan just said two days ago it's against the rules--the rules HE is the only one always whining about. But if they're gonna be knocking on my door someday to make a movie, we'll all be well known anyway!Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
mickey you know the drill: WE MUST BELIEVE KEW. WE MUST BELIEVE KEW. PROOF NOT NECESSARY. PROOF NOT NECESSARY. Funny, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmKJ, you keep demanding proof when you refuse to put up any proof yourself. Prove you made 80K a year for 16 years or whatever. Easy enough to prove, right. You should have your tax records from 15 years ago around, right. Put them up here. Show us. Quit hiding behind a mask of anonymity but demanding that others should show you something with their name on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJI too have considered and wondered about the possibility that Rob has some information, something that might at least go towards verifying his claim, regarding the double up bug. That is the only one worth talking about, the other claim just is silly. From the time he announced this double up bug claim, Rob has sought a bigger stage than VCT to discuss or promote this claim. Anything from GWAE to an interview with Mike to....whatever else he has in mind. So I have been wondering if he has been holding out some info or "proof" for a lack of a better term. I don't really know if there is definitive proof, but possibly and I think it is a very long shot, maybe some kind of "supporting evidence", like has been discussed in the last 2 days.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
Look, the ideal solution would have been tax records and casino W-2 and paperwork. Rob immediately nixed this by saying he threw all that away, which to me makes no sense. And I am trying to be objective here. Rob talks about concerns with the Statue of Limitations as a reason he would have gotten rid of these records as quickly as he could. That doesn't make sense to me. Anyone coming after him, whether some sort of law enforcement or even IRS, wouldn't need HIS records. That would already have copies of everything he had and claims to have gotten rid of. Getting rid of those records wasn't getting rid of evidence, that could some how protect him. That is silly. But it sure is convenient as to why he can't show them now to back up his claim. :rolleyes:
Now in the absence of tax records and casino documentation, the only other thing that makes sense is some sort of financial records of what he did with at least some of the money. receipts of big ticket items, including real estate. Rob has always claimed he bought house and put them in the names of his daughter. Right or wrong that some of us have looked into that, the houses in his daughters name just are not paid for as he claims. There are large mortagages owed on both, one more than the property is currently worth. This just doesn't fly either. It really doesn't.
That brings up to the final thing. Rob has talked about owning an expensive RV or two? for years. Only recently did he mention that was bought with "double-up bug" money. So if the timing was right, that could be some sort of supporting evidence, as Alan/Andrew was getting at in the other thread that he started here. But so far Rob has not been receptive to the idea of providing a receipt.
Now as I have always said Rob is under no obligation to provide proof. He is not on trial. But he is the one that floated this claim (double up bug) out of the blue last year and there are just very few that believe him, as evident of the poll and comments at WoV. Based on his long history, if he wants people to believe him, he has to show something. Maybe he is just holding out for the BIG platform to do so.
Another thing is the "facts" you come up with. You have a long history of distorting facts. So I take everything you write with a grain of salt. Where did this claim of Rob's daughter still having mortgage on her house come from. And one mortgage where more money is owed on the house than it's worth. This is the first I've heard of it and I"m a religious follower of this forum.
Could you do something simple and put up proof of it? Because of your history I can't take you at your word. Put up proof. And it has to be something other than "of course it's true someone told me" like you've been doing with the food stamp story.
Yes there are mortgages on the two houses I bought over here--they refinanced them both so they could buy and build in Minn. & Wisconsin. (If you know the Phx. area market nothing is upside down. Just another error or something he made up. You think he wants to report good things? ) And there's another one coming. I live in one for $0 which was all that I asked for after buying them. The other is a vacation rental property. The Wisc. and coming house will be vacation rental properties too. That's their plan to retire early someday.
Look--there's all kinds of pressure hitting the little guy right now. He got laid off, his gambling got shut down, his stimulus is late, he & baby bro gots the virus, and the worst thing that could possibly happen happens: I'm gonna be talking to Mike S. again while his broken little heart has to endure. I can see why all this has put him at the edge. :) Lashing out with lies is all he has left.
Bruh,,,,just give it up. You can't salvage the latest revelations of holes in your story. You're taking pathetic to a whole new level. Tax records and deed recordings can't be faked. We have also learned that bankruptcy recordings never go away. The bullshit you are now trying to weave is patently more lies......lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singermickey you know the drill: WE MUST BELIEVE KEW. WE MUST BELIEVE KEW. PROOF NOT NECESSARY. PROOF NOT NECESSARY. Funny, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmKJ, you keep demanding proof when you refuse to put up any proof yourself. Prove you made 80K a year for 16 years or whatever. Easy enough to prove, right. You should have your tax records from 15 years ago around, right. Put them up here. Show us. Quit hiding behind a mask of anonymity but demanding that others should show you something with their name on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Another thing is the "facts" you come up with. You have a long history of distorting facts. So I take everything you write with a grain of salt. Where did this claim of Rob's daughter still having mortgage on her house come from. And one mortgage where more money is owed on the house than it's worth. This is the first I've heard of it and I"m a religious follower of this forum.
Could you do something simple and put up proof of it? Because of your history I can't take you at your word. Put up proof. And it has to be something other than "of course it's true someone told me" like you've been doing with the food stamp story.
Yes there are mortgages on the two houses I bought over here--they refinanced them both so they could buy and build in Minn. & Wisconsin. (If you know the Phx. area market nothing is upside down. Just another error or something he made up. You think he wants to report good things? ) And there's another one coming. I live in one for $0 which was all that I asked for after buying them. The other is a vacation rental property. The Wisc. and coming house will be vacation rental properties too. That's their plan to retire early someday.
Look--there's all kinds of pressure hitting the little guy right now. He got laid off, his gambling got shut down, his stimulus is late, he & baby bro gots the virus, and the worst thing that could possibly happen happens: I'm gonna be talking to Mike S. again while his broken little heart has to endure. I can see why all this has put him at the edge. :) Lashing out with lies is all he has left.
So just quit while you're ahead. Lest more bones be revealed from your familial closet full of skeletons.
You can't make a ribeye from a shit sandwich no matter how hard you try. There aren't enough lies.
Funny how you say "I'm ahead" when you yourself are lying, have no proof of anything, but somehow still claim to be "the winner".Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxPenBruh,,,,just give it up. You can't salvage the latest revelations of holes in your story. You're taking pathetic to a whole new level. Tax records and deed recordings can't be faked. We have also learned that bankruptcy recordings never go away. The bullshit you are now trying to weave is patently more lies......lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singermickey you know the drill: WE MUST BELIEVE KEW. WE MUST BELIEVE KEW. PROOF NOT NECESSARY. PROOF NOT NECESSARY. Funny, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Yes there are mortgages on the two houses I bought over here--they refinanced them both so they could buy and build in Minn. & Wisconsin. (If you know the Phx. area market nothing is upside down. Just another error or something he made up. You think he wants to report good things? ) And there's another one coming. I live in one for $0 which was all that I asked for after buying them. The other is a vacation rental property. The Wisc. and coming house will be vacation rental properties too. That's their plan to retire early someday.
Look--there's all kinds of pressure hitting the little guy right now. He got laid off, his gambling got shut down, his stimulus is late, he & baby bro gots the virus, and the worst thing that could possibly happen happens: I'm gonna be talking to Mike S. again while his broken little heart has to endure. I can see why all this has put him at the edge. :) Lashing out with lies is all he has left.
So just quit while you're ahead. Lest more bones be revealed from your familial closet full of skeletons.
You can't make a ribeye from a shit sandwich no matter how hard you try. There aren't enough lies.
I get how humiliated you must be that I exposed you for begging me for info. THAT is why I'm ahead, and why I will stay ahead.
Wise up.
Again,,,,you cannot salvage this by more lies. If you had any proof that I begged you for anything you'd post it up faster than a camper dweller chases down a free parking space. No amount of fabricated bullshit can change the facts debunking your entire story.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.SingerFunny how you say "I'm ahead" when you yourself are lying, have no proof of anything, but somehow still claim to be "the winner".Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxPenBruh,,,,just give it up. You can't salvage the latest revelations of holes in your story. You're taking pathetic to a whole new level. Tax records and deed recordings can't be faked. We have also learned that bankruptcy recordings never go away. The bullshit you are now trying to weave is patently more lies......lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
So just quit while you're ahead. Lest more bones be revealed from your familial closet full of skeletons.
You can't make a ribeye from a shit sandwich no matter how hard you try. There aren't enough lies.
I get how humiliated you must be that I exposed you for begging me for info. THAT is why I'm ahead, and why I will stay ahead.
Wise up.
Also,,,where did I say "I'm ahead"?
Mickey, I didn't bring Rob's daughter into it.....HE DID, when he stated that he used the DU Bug money to purchase homes in her name.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Look, this is really quite simple. Rob made an extraordinary claim. One that requires some verification for people to believe because it is so unusual. Rob has always stated he wished he still had the tax records so he could prove this claim. Well now there is a way. Verify the purchases made with the money. These were his claims that this is what he did with the money, no one elses. He should be jumping at this opportunity to put this to rest and take his bows. The fact that he is not, but instead placing conditions on doing so, conditions that can not possible be met, just like he always does, really speaks volumes. It really says all anyone needs to know.
This stuff about me and how I make a living is a bunch of baloney. You never questioned me before. No one questions me except maybe coach belly, because his whole existence is that kind of gottch ya baloney. No one questions me because what I claim isn't extraordinary. There are many players doing it. And the math backs it up. Card counting advantage vs the Double Up Bug claim? Give me a break. It is just flat out dishonest of you mickey.
Mickey, you claim that you believe Rob's claim. No one even believes that you really do. But if you really do, you should WANT to see this proof to back up your belief. You should be encouraging Rob to show whatever evidence he has. That fact that you aren't speaks volumes about you.
Sometimes lack of evidence is in fact evidence. Look I have presented my evidence proving Rob is lying. It is in the form of public records that anyone can look up that clearly contradicts Robs claims. That is all I can do. I can't actually repost those records here. That is illegal and would open me up to a great deal of liability with or without Rob's permission. So I have presented my evidence. I can't make you read it. You and others looking the other way and refusing to look shows your agenda. So don't even attempt to paint yourself as objective. No one believes that. You and coach belly aren't seeking the truth. The truth is in front of you and you refuse to look.
I am really done with this. Rob's decision to not show evidence and/or put conditions on it he knows can't be met, speaks volumes. That in itself is evidence. I can guarantee Mike Shackleford doesn't accept Rob's claims without some kind of supporting documentation. So then we are just right back to square 1. Rob has this extraordinary claim. No one believes him (4%) and he is not interested in showing any supporting documentation or evidence. The 20 year Troll of Rob Singer and now Mickey Crimm continues. That is all it is.
You said I'm ahead, as in me.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxPenAgain,,,,you cannot salvage this by more lies. If you had any proof that I begged you for anything you'd post it up faster than a camper dweller chases down a free parking space. No amount of fabricated bullshit can change the facts debunking your entire story.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.SingerFunny how you say "I'm ahead" when you yourself are lying, have no proof of anything, but somehow still claim to be "the winner".Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxPen
I get how humiliated you must be that I exposed you for begging me for info. THAT is why I'm ahead, and why I will stay ahead.
Wise up.
Also,,,where did I say "I'm ahead"?
No I can't post your pm because it's not permitted and I don't bother with doing those petty things anyway. Doesn't matter though--you already admitted to it in your first ramble.
And....if you're gonna make accusations at least read everything first. Where did you see me dispute deed and tax records? You didn't is the answer. All I did is exactly what I've been saying for a long time. I supplied the cashier checks and they made the purchases and pay the taxes, and ins. Then they refinanced or whatever that's called, both properties, to buy and build up north. And if there was a bk on her record she'd never be able to get the properties she now has. Surely you sleuths see how much they are worth--or is it too embarrassing to let that info out too. Admit it, it's all lies, spin, and misinformation that supports your agendas of hate.
You're "really done with this?" Hahahahahahahahaha!!!! Are you expecting to get nuked? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJMickey, I didn't bring Rob's daughter into it.....HE DID, when he stated that he used the DU Bug money to purchase homes in her name.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Look, this is really quite simple. Rob made an extraordinary claim. One that requires some verification for people to believe because it is so unusual. Rob has always stated he wished he still had the tax records so he could prove this claim. Well now there is a way. Verify the purchases made with the money. These were his claims that this is what he did with the money, no one elses. He should be jumping at this opportunity to put this to rest and take his bows. The fact that he is not, but instead placing conditions on doing so, conditions that can not possible be met, just like he always does, really speaks volumes. It really says all anyone needs to know.
This stuff about me and how I make a living is a bunch of baloney. You never questioned me before. No one questions me except maybe coach belly, because his whole existence is that kind of gottch ya baloney. No one questions me because what I claim isn't extraordinary. There are many players doing it. And the math backs it up. Card counting advantage vs the Double Up Bug claim? Give me a break. It is just flat out dishonest of you mickey.
Mickey, you claim that you believe Rob's claim. No one even believes that you really do. But if you really do, you should WANT to see this proof to back up your belief. You should be encouraging Rob to show whatever evidence he has. That fact that you aren't speaks volumes about you.
Sometimes lack of evidence is in fact evidence. Look I have presented my evidence proving Rob is lying. It is in the form of public records that anyone can look up that clearly contradicts Robs claims. That is all I can do. I can't actually repost those records here. That is illegal and would open me up to a great deal of liability with or without Rob's permission. So I have presented my evidence. I can't make you read it. You and others looking the other way and refusing to look shows your agenda. So don't even attempt to paint yourself as objective. No one believes that. You and coach belly aren't seeking the truth. The truth is in front of you and you refuse to look.
I am really done with this. Rob's decision to not show evidence and/or put conditions on it he knows can't be met, speaks volumes. That in itself is evidence. I can guarantee Mike Shackleford doesn't accept Rob's claims without some kind of supporting documentation. So then we are just right back to square 1. Rob has this extraordinary claim. No one believes him (4%) and he is not interested in showing any supporting documentation or evidence. The 20 year Troll of Rob Singer and now Mickey Crimm continues. That is all it is.
I am sure you are lobbying for that. Is that all you have left. "KJ proved I was lying. He isn't allowed to do that. Please kick him out" Cry for me Argentino. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
My nuking wouldn't even change anything. You would still be a liar and have been exposed as a liar. But you do what you gotta do to try to save face, Robby.
Methinks kew is a bit worried 'bout sumptin :)Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJI am sure you are lobbying for that. Is that all you have left. "KJ proved I was lying. He isn't allowed to do that. Please kick him out" Cry for me Argentino. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
My nuking wouldn't even change anything. You would still be a liar and have been exposed as a liar. But you do what you gotta do to try to save face, Robby.
And BTW kew I do know much more about you than you'd want to believe. I know your name, your latest journeyman's address, and why you concoct this internet forum life of yours. But I've never "researched" you and I'll never be interested in doing that kind of stuff. Just like I dug up arci's real name thru my sources long before he even joined here. Richard Mustain. He has a background no one would ever want to believe that came with the name pkg., but I still refused to research him like he did me. He paid enuf having to watch his wife waste away because of renal failure, and his son to drugs. Similarly, I believe you've also paid enuf with the pathetic going nowhere life you lead. Everyone can read someone like you by your posts.
Best to wise up before it's too late. And I hope you don't live on a top floor.
Are you familiar with "opening the door to inadmissible evidence or witnesses"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
If the defense introduces evidence or a witness, that would otherwise be inadmissible, the prosecutor has a right to use that evidence or witness. This is known as "opening the door to inadmissible evidence". They are forfeiting the right to keep that evidence or witness out.
That is what you did when you declared that you used the double up bug money to purchase homes in your daughters name. Once you made that statement, anyone has a right to check it out.
I am sorry if your own stupidity led to you being caught in a lie. Liars almost always end up hanging themselves.
How did you come by the following information?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
And you are scrambling to save face....or more likely, your forum skin. I used the DU $$ to buy toilet paper too. Anybody can "look up" anything at any time. But Dan did say that it was not allowed to say anything about that here. You broke the rules sonny. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJAre you familiar with "opening the door to inadmissible evidence or witnesses"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
If the defense introduces evidence or a witness, that would otherwise be inadmissible, the prosecutor has a right to use that evidence or witness. This is known as "opening the door to inadmissible evidence". They are forfeiting the right to keep that evidence or witness out.
That is what you did when you declared that you used the double up bug money to purchase homes in your daughters name. Once you made that statement, anyone has a right to check it out.
I am sorry if your own stupidity led to you being caught in a lie. Liars almost always end up hanging themselves.
What an idiot.
Will kew pay the ultimate price???
Tick tock...tick tock...
Will there be a tragedy at one of the multi-housing dumps nearby the Strip?
Will the LV Culinary Union covid toll go from 11 to 12???
These deflections are all you have Singer. All you have EVER had.
What a loser. A guy spends 20 years on forums pretending to be something he is not. Then steals claims of others that he reads in the media. Seriously? How pathetic is this? :(
Here's some of my favorite KJ quotes:Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJMickey, I didn't bring Rob's daughter into it.....HE DID, when he stated that he used the DU Bug money to purchase homes in her name.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Look, this is really quite simple. Rob made an extraordinary claim. One that requires some verification for people to believe because it is so unusual. Rob has always stated he wished he still had the tax records so he could prove this claim. Well now there is a way. Verify the purchases made with the money. These were his claims that this is what he did with the money, no one elses. He should be jumping at this opportunity to put this to rest and take his bows. The fact that he is not, but instead placing conditions on doing so, conditions that can not possible be met, just like he always does, really speaks volumes. It really says all anyone needs to know.
This stuff about me and how I make a living is a bunch of baloney. You never questioned me before. No one questions me except maybe coach belly, because his whole existence is that kind of gottch ya baloney. No one questions me because what I claim isn't extraordinary. There are many players doing it. And the math backs it up. Card counting advantage vs the Double Up Bug claim? Give me a break. It is just flat out dishonest of you mickey.
Mickey, you claim that you believe Rob's claim. No one even believes that you really do. But if you really do, you should WANT to see this proof to back up your belief. You should be encouraging Rob to show whatever evidence he has. That fact that you aren't speaks volumes about you.
Sometimes lack of evidence is in fact evidence. Look I have presented my evidence proving Rob is lying. It is in the form of public records that anyone can look up that clearly contradicts Robs claims. That is all I can do. I can't actually repost those records here. That is illegal and would open me up to a great deal of liability with or without Rob's permission. So I have presented my evidence. I can't make you read it. You and others looking the other way and refusing to look shows your agenda. So don't even attempt to paint yourself as objective. No one believes that. You and coach belly aren't seeking the truth. The truth is in front of you and you refuse to look.
I am really done with this. Rob's decision to not show evidence and/or put conditions on it he knows can't be met, speaks volumes. That in itself is evidence. I can guarantee Mike Shackleford doesn't accept Rob's claims without some kind of supporting documentation. So then we are just right back to square 1. Rob has this extraordinary claim. No one believes him (4%) and he is not interested in showing any supporting documentation or evidence. The 20 year Troll of Rob Singer and now Mickey Crimm continues. That is all it is.
"I demand proof."
"I don't have to put up proof."
"Yes, I have proof, someone told me it's true."
"My late partner is off limits."
"Rob's daughter is open game."
Really, all you are doing is trolling. You are harassing someone. That's all. No less and no more. Just harassing someone for fun and pleasure. Do I need Rob to put up proof? I looked at the evidence at hand and decided it was highly likely he put down the play. So do I need to see "proof?" No, because nothing will prove it. Nothing. Even Rob spending a large amount of money doesn't prove anything.
KJ, you are demanding the impossible. Nothing will ever prove what Rob did from 2004 to 2009. So all you are doing is harassing someone about it. Didn't those "search background" engines tell you the info you gain couldn't be used to harass someone? What is that called in a court of law?
Your grasping Mickey. Dan asked Rob if we had his permission to post information found on him. Rob responded "yes, he didn't care". End of your harassments idea.
Now while Rob can give him permission for me to post what I find, in my own words, he can not release me from the liability of actual posting copies or downloads of that information. So I haven't done that. Instead I have posted what I have found and encouraged others to go look for themselves. Absolutely nothing illegal about that. But keep grasping Mickey and Rob. You will try anything to stop the truth from being known about Rob's 20 year lies.
Another of your numerous lies kew. I said I didn't care what people said because it obviously doesn't change a thing for us. But never did I say it was ok to post personal info about my family. That's totally on you and how badly you've been wounded over this.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
No wonder you are in panic mode. Not even max can swoop in and lie enuf to save the day.
You’re funny, dude. You are using search background info to harass someone. You don’t have to post the info. Just insinuate and that is harassment. YOU care about absolute proof. I don’t. It’s time for you to grow up.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
And kew get this. In 2006 I invested $400,000 from my 401k in gold. The price was around $680/ounce. Now it's a little over $1600. Doesn't that just irk you no end? All the retirement money when you have none?
No mickey what is funny is the lengths you are now going to, to try to protect Rob. I mean you just made up the law as you go. It is funny but it really isn't ha ha funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Look, people telling the truth are never concerned about the truth coming out, Only people lying are. So the question for everyone, which of these sounds like Mickey and Rob?
Here is another question: If Rob found and played this double up as claimed, why did he bring it up after 10 years? :confused:
He wanted credit for it. He wanted people to admire him and congratulate him. Here is his chance. He can provide supporting evidence in the form of a receipt for his RV which would back up his claim of what he did with some of the money. There is nothing compromising about doing that. So you have to ask why won't he? Why is Rob unable to provide this simple supporting evidence? I think EVERYONE know the answer. :cool:
Nope Another desperate lie kew.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJNo mickey what is funny is the lengths you are now going to, to try to protect Rob. I mean you just made up the law as you go. It is funny but it really isn't ha ha funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Look, people telling the truth are never concerned about the truth coming out, Only people lying are. So the question for everyone, which of these sounds like Mickey and Rob?
Here is another question: If Rob found and played this double up as claimed, why did he bring it up after 10 years? :confused:
He wanted credit for it. He wanted people to admire him and congratulate him. Here is his chance. He can provide supporting evidence in the form of a receipt for his RV which would back up his claim of what he did with some of the money. There is nothing compromising about doing that. So you have to ask why won't he? Why is Rob unable to provide this simple supporting evidence? I think EVERYONE know the answer. :cool:
I released it after ten years because that's what I planned to do. And all you're doing is showing how much you don't want to believe it, but do!
In other words, you're as pathetic as you appear to be.
Here's a big secret about why Rob won't provide proof, KJ. It's funny, I mean hysterical, watching you whine like a little bitch over it. You crack me up, Inspector KJ Clouseau, the ass clown.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJNo mickey what is funny is the lengths you are now going to, to try to protect Rob. I mean you just made up the law as you go. It is funny but it really isn't ha ha funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Look, people telling the truth are never concerned about the truth coming out, Only people lying are. So the question for everyone, which of these sounds like Mickey and Rob?
Here is another question: If Rob found and played this double up as claimed, why did he bring it up after 10 years? :confused:
He wanted credit for it. He wanted people to admire him and congratulate him. Here is his chance. He can provide supporting evidence in the form of a receipt for his RV which would back up his claim of what he did with some of the money. There is nothing compromising about doing that. So you have to ask why won't he? Why is Rob unable to provide this simple supporting evidence? I think EVERYONE know the answer. :cool:
As it stands, no evidence exists that you made a living playing blackjack. Proof or it never happened. You're probably some little old lady that used to hook and got bitch slapped one to many times.
More Deflection!Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
All the piss and moaning about Trump is this and Trump is that and how could we vote for him is about how bad the dem candidates are. If their candidates weren't so bad they might get a vote.
MORE DEFECATION BY KJ. And tell you fuck buddy, redietz to quit harassing me thru private messaging. You two are real ass clowns.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJMore Deflection!Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Redietz, I no longer read your PM's. Shove them up your ass.
I have no connection to redietz. Ok how about I say "tell your fuck buddy Tasha hello for me".Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmMORE DEFECATION BY KJ. And tell you fuck buddy, redietz to quit harassing me thru private messaging. You two are real ass clowns.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJMore Deflection!Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Redietz, I no longer read your PM's. Shove them up your ass.
Your decline is shocking Mickey. You made more sense as a drunk.