But I’m as real as they get, unlike you it appears.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
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But I’m as real as they get, unlike you it appears.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
And a shoutout to Gamerfreak over there for telling it like it is about CV.
He is far from a conservative and usually takes liberal causes. I believe he is in his 20’s and sees the hoax for what it is. Naturally 2 of the biggest liberals on there (Dark Oz and Broke Bill) bash him for being selfish and not caring about others.
Of course if he was out there protesting for blacks he would be their hero. And they would have no concern about the CV.
As KJ, says they are truly sick fucks.
And yet the Covid numbers are going up in red States.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
I don't care, less votes for trump if it spreads in the red states
What's the only thing worse than a Liberal???
Two Liberals!
What's the only thing worse than a republican.Quote:
Originally Posted by monet
A republican who thinks he makes good jokes!
Says the guy whose kids even know he has bad jokes :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkozWhat's the only thing worse than a republican.Quote:
Originally Posted by monet
A republican who thinks he makes good jokes!
Some of the rare honest facts about full-time AP's from a full-time AP Monet with at least 30 years of experience.
Everything I say, I can back up.
I don't like phonies.
Guy and his crew paint some fairy tale bullshit online.
All around the campfire singing kumbaya.
In real life it isn't like that.
They are doing every shady tactic you can think of.
Don't tell everyone you are a choir boy online but act like a devil in the real world.
It's all about Lie, Cheat and Steal but these Motherfuckers would have you believe its Church Time.
You want to think moving around machines and holding 4 of a kinds to keep claiming bonuses is honest work, go ahead and believe that bullshit.
You think using walkie talkies to scoop up Flush Attacks is honest AP work...
Sleeping at machines during Tax Bonus Day waiting 3 hours to get paid...
I've seen it for 30 years in this town.
Don't post about how you are the golden crew/boy.
I'll tell you how it really is.
they like to use the pm back doors to gain players cards or people to pick up their free play around the country and they like to preach online how honest they are.
It's all smoke and mirrors online.
The real life is a damn difficult grind and if you aren't pushing the edge or doing shady shit you got no chance.
Monet tells it like it is and always did. Of course, all the AP angels will come out of the wood work and deny everything. After all they are the angels beating down the devil casinos.
Love the way Axel always try to dissect with reason why or how people could possibly dislike him. Did you ever wonder why braggers like KJ, Darkoz, Axel, the list is must longer on these forums always trying to convince everyone how special they are?
It’s because they’re always trying to deflect from the facts that they’re full time gambling con artists.
Full time gamblers should never be trusted and never were. Unless of course you are a sucker.
This is very very trueQuote:
Originally Posted by MaxPenSays the guy whose kids even know he has bad jokes :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkozWhat's the only thing worse than a republican.Quote:
Originally Posted by monet
A republican who thinks he makes good jokes!
The simple answer is I don't do anything illegal with my AP play.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackhole
I don't give a fuck about ethics or morals in what I do. I don't care if Monet or you are jealous or think (key word is think) I'm cheating.
It's legal.
Casinos most definitely feel I am cheating. They have called police on me before only to be told THEY ARE WRONG!.
Ethics and morals we can debate all day because everyone has their own slant.
Whether what I do is illegal. Sorry that's a fact that I do not anywhere in the USA. (I don't care if you find some locale in Guam or Nam). It isn't illegal in America
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Originally Posted by The Boz
Why is it that people I like insist on saying things that are so totally ridiculous that I have to defend other people against them? Okay, here we go:
1. I don't know enough about this to comment. No links, please. Don't care.
2. See #1.
3. He has feuded with a great many people, that's for sure, and I think it's beyond indubitable that KewlJ does enjoy drama, despite his protestations to the contrary.
-And, even then, do you know how many people that's true of? You've got Monet, who apparently specifically meets people so he can take a shit all over them on the Forums. Given anything he said about people that he has met, I can't see what other possible purpose it has. I think the subject of us meeting had come up, (I may or may not have initiated it-don't remember) but I said he's not buying me a damn thing or using any of his comps on me; we can each take care of ourselves and he's not even to so much as cover my tip. I'm not going to meet someone, have them act all warm and friendly, buy me dinner and then take a shit all over me.
-So, let's address you, The Boz. I hope you won't see this as some sort of betrayal, but you shit on Tasha, like, all the time. It's reached the point of ridiculousness. Just block her. For my part, even on WoV when I was an Admin, I considered Nathan relatively harmless. And, I'll tell you something else, the more PM's and texts (not from you, I don't think) that I got demanding that she be nuked--the less likely it became every time. But, you're going to have her posting for attention---AND IS THERE ANYONE WHO DOESN'T POST FOR ATTENTION IN SOME WAY? Like, what would even be the point of posting? Shouting into the wind and hoping not to get a response? Anyway, people say she posts the way she does for attention---proceed to give her said attention---and then bitch about her continued posting. Of course she's going to fucking continue to post, because you're giving her the very fucking thing you fucking say she fucking wants. And, of the forums I follow (as in, at all) she seems basically relegated to two of the more obscure ones-additional socks she may create aside.
-And, a full quarter, maybe it's not quite a half, of the populace of this forum is engaged in the very, "Feud creating," you're talking about. If there was a Mission Statement for this Forum, Trolling would almost certainly have to appear somewhere in it.
And, if YOU don't enjoy forum drama to some extent, why make a post shitting all over KewlJ?
4.) So what? How many people does that go for on these forums? KewlJ's Blackjack information is good. It's so good, in fact, that he pissed a lot of various AP's off by talking about the ElCo thing...well, I'd sure as shit guess he has at least been there. If you've read enough of his posts, he's said specific things about several casinos that could EASILY be disproven if he's never been to them----and, you know what? Some people are so obsessed with this, "Gotcha," forum bullshit that I'm sure someone has tried to prove specifics he has mentioned wrong.
-So, has KewlJ absolutely proven that he is a full-time Blackjack player? I would say not conclusively and beyond a shadow of a doubt. Is there any good evidence to the contrary? Fuck no.
-Besides, you talk about meeting people from the forums. Yeah. Look what that fucking got me. If not for exactly one friendship I have tipping the scales, the balance would lean towards regretting ever meeting anyone, on net. There's some good and some bad, don't misunderstand, but to go back and do it all over again it would be meet nobody---except for one that's more of a RL friendship than a forum friendship. He doesn't post here, that I know of.
-Go over and look at Diversity Tomorrow on the stimulus thread. I've got EvenBob challenging whether or not I have a washer and dryer because I expressed a simple preference that I like to go to the laundromat and get it all done at once. I guess this paragraph should belong more in Item #3, but you get my point.
5. They can either prove it wrong or they can't.
6. See #3
If he denies those things, are we going to individually list more sexual possibilities, or can he just categorically deny anything sexual? Seriously, that's pretty messed up. I don't get why so many of you supposed Alphas are worried about sharing written words with someone who is gay.Quote:
He has denied paying or sucking the Wizard off to get back on his forum. He has not denied letting Wizard fuck him, paying hookers to flash the Wizard or sticking a finger in his ass. These options make as much sense as the Wizard allowing a guy back who he said is “dead to him”.
Tasha sock is absurd. Also, without going into specifics, I can say that KewlJ is definitely not Tasha. Someone from the other forum encountered Tasha, don't forget, not to mention I think there's a video of Tasha. KewlJ has been on the Forums so long prior to Tasha that for KewlJ to have created Tasha (and associated forum characters) that's a serious as fuck playing of the long game to absolutely no end and for no possible benefit.Quote:
Bottom line is NO ONE knows if this KJ even lives in Vegas, ever played BJ or even isn’t a Tasha sock.
What reason is there to doubt he lives in Vegas? Many people do. He's also said some fairly specific things, if you've read enough of his posts.
Let's pretend that I don't believe that KewlJ is a professional card counter, just for the sake of argument. I do believe it, but pretend I don't. I think the most likely alternative case is that he is a blackjack dealer in Las Vegas. It would make total sense. If you're going to bandy about theories, at least go with ones that add up.
I could say it about a few, but I won't. No, perhaps not the majority here.Quote:
No proof at all he isn’t a long term internet troll. How many posters can you say that about? Certainly not most of us on here.
Which is worse: A Democrat or a Republican?Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkozWhat's the only thing worse than a republican.Quote:
Originally Posted by monet
A republican who thinks he makes good jokes!
Yes.
I agree with DarkOz and would add that, in addition to things that are illegal, I would also not do anything directly to adversely impact a ploppy. I'd not give them bad advice, hover over them, make them feel uncomfortable in any way, etc. etc. Those things aside, it's all fair game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkoz
Mission, I am going to disagree with your analysis regarding "feuds". I believe I have been involved in 1 feud. Without rehashing, that was with Qfit. It was about a guy who was a fraud and intentionally misleading other players and Qfit's role in that as a forum owner. Any issues with Mike, were part of that same feud and it was with Norm not Mike. Mike didn't fight back, nor chase me to other forums.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mission146
Now maybe you can say I have been involved with a feud on this forum with Singer, about pretty much the same thing, his phony claims intentionally misleading other players. The reason I would hesitate to call that a "feud" is because Singer has NEVER been able to argue that with substance, only homophobic name calling.
And that brings me to the rest of what you are conflating as "feuding". I don't see any of that as feuding. I see it as a bunch of guys that engage in homophobic hate, name calling and I respond. There is no substance to their hate, except that I am gay and they are homophobic. Anyone would know this just by reading their comments. That is all it is about. This forum allows and attracts homophobic haters that seem to have nothing better to do that attack me for my sexual orientation. There are guys like Boz and BoSox that used to be thought of as normal guys contributing to gambling related forums, That now are obsessed with hating me, because of sexual orientation and making vulgar homophobic remarks. Proving how immature they are.
As for your comments about me being a blackjack AP and living in Vegas. Even though you are somewhat infrequently on this forum, mission, you have probably heard me say "It doesn't take much to figure out who knows what they are talking about and who is just talking". Anyone that hasn't figured out that I know what I am talking about concerning blackjack card counting AP and that I reside in Vegas....is just a flat out idiot! These are people who doesn't WANT to see. What they want to do is hate.
I'm talking about strictly forum feuds that aren't really all that relevant to anything gambling-related directly. The feud between you and QFit was at least directly related, as I understand from your posts (note, I did not pay much attention) to someone on QFit's forum making claims that were mathematically ridiculous about some super high level counting strategy and you getting banned for calling the guy out. After that, he went over to WoV and started trashing you, or perhaps you said something about him over there first; I don't know or care.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJMission, I am going to disagree with your analysis regarding "feuds". I believe I have been involved in 1 feud. Without rehashing, that was with Qfit. It was about a guy who was a fraud and intentionally misleading other players and Qfit's role in that as a forum owner. Any issues with Mike, were part of that same feud and it was with Norm not Mike. Mike didn't fight back, nor chase me to other forums.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mission146
Now maybe you can say I have been involved with a feud on this forum with Singer, about pretty much the same thing, his phony claims intentionally misleading other players. The reason I would hesitate to call that a "feud" is because Singer has NEVER been able to argue that with substance, only homophobic name calling.
And that brings me to the rest of what you are conflating as "feuding". I don't see any of that as feuding. I see it as a bunch of guys that engage in homophobic hate, name calling and I respond. There is no substance to their hate, except that I am gay and they are homophobic. Anyone would know this just by reading their comments. That is all it is about. This forum allows and attracts homophobic haters that seem to have nothing better to do that attack me for my sexual orientation. There are guys like Boz and BoSox that used to be thought of as normal guys contributing to gambling related forums, That now are obsessed with hating me, because of sexual orientation and making vulgar homophobic remarks. Proving how immature they are.
As for your comments about me being a blackjack AP and living in Vegas. Even though you are somewhat infrequently on this forum, mission, you have probably heard me say "It doesn't take much to figure out who knows what they are talking about and who is just talking". Anyone that hasn't figured out that I know what I am talking about concerning blackjack card counting AP and that I reside in Vegas....is just a flat out idiot! These are people who doesn't WANT to see. What they want to do is hate.
So then you get banned from WoV. Then you get Nuked. After that, you would bring the whole entire thing up, in extremely lengthy (like, the length of my average post...lol) posts for literal years. After some amount of time, you started essentially calling the Wizard everything but a Caucasian, though amends have been made.
You continue, again and again, to feel the need to defend yourself against people on various forums when all you accomplish is fanning the flames of the supposed controversy and entertaining them. You've made all kinds of comments about people on this forum that would be better left unmade and constantly feel the need to defend yourself against people who are clearly fucking with you for no purpose other than to get a rise out of you. They keep driving home the homosexual angle because they want you to respond with a counter post that is three chapters of a book long, so that they can then accuse you of being a crybaby. The good news is you usually don't take that bait, but what Boz said was totally over the top---mainly because it references someone else directly.
Also, you wouldn't be here anymore. Your continued presence on this forum can only lead to you being attacked, which you must be aware of. If I were you, I'd just create a thread and tell your detractors, "Come to this thread and let's get this shit over with." I basically did that and have had no real takers so far. Mainly because if they say something shitty about me; I'll probably just agree with them and agree with myself agreeing with them some 75%+ of the time.
Singer has never proven a mathematically successful system and his double-up claims, at a minimum, means the other system that he did claim is not as successful for him as he claimed it was. As far as the DUB, we know it exists, we know Singer claims to have done it...but who gives a fuck? The DUB exists and that's good enough for me. I'm not richer or poorer to prove anything either way or to disprove that he owns a certain traveling house---no offense to those who are mainly doing it for entertainment. COVID probably had a good bit to do with that with all of the casinos shuttered.
They probably aren't homophobic, they're fucking with you and you're giving them what they want---entertainment. Do you really think that many people would actually care if you're a homosexual or not if they don't plan to sleep with you? Besides that, if anyone is going to challenge your stated posts on Blackjack, why not challenge your stated posts about being a homosexual? Being a homosexual seems like it would be a much easier thing to convincingly lie about.
And, again, why would you give them what they want? It's like I said in the other post, NOBODY posts hoping to not get a response. That's what the entire fucking point of a message board is.
As to the last paragraph, basically, yeah. That's why my belief is that you're a professional blackjack card counter. Even then, the most likely alternative theory that fits would have you be a Blackjack dealer in Vegas. And, again, I believe you're a card counter...but think about it:
1. Nobody knows what you look like, so Axelwolf could go and play at your table and he'd never know it was you.
2. It explains the specifics you know about other casinos. That could come from either visiting, having dealt there or having associates/former co-workers who dealt there.
3. It explains how you could have known about the ElCo thing without being a card counter. You could either deal there or know someone who does.
4. It would enable you to keep other aspects of your story pretty close to the truth if not the truth. You grew up East Coast. You were homeless for a period. You played, except you didn't in this theoretical, you dealt, in Atlantic City and eventually moved to Las Vegas. You're a homosexual. You were married to an older guy. You live with your brother.
-All of those things could be true with either story.
And, I can't emphasize this enough, but I believe you're a professional card counter. With some other specifics and what not, it's just the most likely answer. But, I took maybe 30 seconds and asked myself, "Hmm...if KewlJ was not a professional card counter, what story is most likely to be true?", and that's what I came up with. You would know a lot of the stuff that you know, just from the other side of the table.
Another thing is the notion that you're a slot junkie (no offense, Tasha) who lives in Florida and works at Walgreen's---things about Tasha that are either proven or are not in dispute---is absurd on the face of it. Like I said, that's a serious long game to no real end. You change everything about your writing style and post, for years, about Blackjack almost exclusively? Like, that's some serious ass good cover for that to be true.
I can't believe that anyone could think me and Kewlj are the same person. That's just as absurd as the thankfully very short lived joke that was going around that me and WON were the same person. O..O
Don't believe that nonsense that no one even knows what I look like. I wished they didn't but they do. Axelwolf himself once described seeing my partner and I and publicly described my partner right down to what he was wearing that day. And I have seen Axelwolf several times since including the Lucky Dragon fiasco. Him pretending not to know what I look like and all that "no one has even seen KJ" is crap.
Well, there you go then, if that's true. He knows what you look like, you know he knows what you look like (assuming this post is 100% accurate---I obviously have no idea) so what fuck could you possibly give about what he or anyone else says?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Mission, no problem at all with your criticism, I certainly don’t take it as personal. I open myself up to it with anything I post. Though I will disagree with you on Tasha, it’s your opinion. I think we all understand she has serious mental issues but does work and I give her credit for that.
As for KJ, of course I don’t think he is Tasha, but it’s as possible as some of the other stuff about him that we just have to believe. No proof is required, but it opens up speculation. And I’ll never understand his reasoning for begging to be back on WoV as wanting to help people. It’s far more than that. Anyone who had to fake their own death because of forum issues probably should run far away. And it makes no sense from the Wizards standpoint so again, it opens up speculation. And again, I don’t think KJ is sticking his finger in Mike’s ass, but it makes as much sense as anything else when you read what they have said about each other in the recent past.
We may all be a little fucked up, but KJ is right up there with the best of them. And he’s still the only person most of us know who had the ‘Vid. And would have been voted most likely to claim he had it by most of us when we first heard about it. He’s that kind of special.
FIRST PARAGRAPH: I just mean harmless in the sense that her posting there is not extremely detrimental. She's not selling systems. She's not (until that one post) cussing people out left and right. And, there came a point (as I understand) that she was relegated to one thread. I also kind of had a theory that she might create sock after sock if she did get Nuked, so better to just keep her where I know where she is (when I was an Admin). If she's satisfied with her severely curtailed one account, then all the better for me, from an Administration standpoint. Fact is, there's not really a whole lot you can do about someone who is REALLY determined to create a bunch of socks, which is why my style of Administration was a lot more aggressive on post editing/deletion than some people would like. If I happened to be on when someone who was clearly a sock made a post (IP Match) it was gone within minutes and almost nobody even knew about it. Therefore, it generates less discussion. Therefore, the person creating the sock doesn't get what they want.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
SECOND PARAGRAPH: I mostly only give hard challenges to fact-based statements and it's simply extremely close to impossible that KewlJ = Tasha. KewlJ is more likely to be you or I than he is to be Tasha, but I acknowledge that you don't seriously believe it anyway.
As far as reasoning goes, and this is just my personal theory, (I've almost never communicated with KewlJ via PM) I think KewlJ is a guy who is pretty big on fairness. He talks about how he would probably hole-card (as in, go out of his way) if he had to, but he prefers not to do that. I imagine, as anyone, fairness is an even bigger concern to him when it's something that relates him directly. So, from that perspective, since he considered his Nuking at WoV to be totally unfair, getting back on WoV somewhat rights that perceived wrong. I don't know anything about the death-faking and don't want to, I don't dispute that, but I have no interest in it.
As far as Wizard's standpoint---I have no idea. If I'm Wizard, KewlJ's good for traffic and starting conversations. Nobody really talks about Blackjack anymore there, so KewlJ's presence will increase Blackjack talk and maybe Google will respond favorably. And, as I told Monet, if I was in charge I'd probably review all people who have been Nuked and selectively let most of them back---at least most of those ones who were Nuked ONLY for posting-related reasons. Traffic begets traffic, and all. It's not like I couldn't just ban them again, if needed, and it's not like I could do a whole hell of a lot about it if they wanted to create socks....other than ban them over and over again.
THIRD PARAGRAPH: I think we all are, myself included. While I was pretty fair in my Admin decisions over there; I was a complete dick on my high horse in the manner in which I banned certain people. There's no need to try to be funny or sarcastic; I should have just banned them, announced the length, stated the reason and answered any inquiries. When all the stupid shit went down a few years ago, it should be no surprise to me that not every single person jumped to my defense. Probably several wanted me gone completely, and who could blame them? I was an asshole half the time.
My fiancee is a pharmacy tech, COVID-19 exists. My ex-wife is a nurse. Also, Wizard recently interviewed Angela, who said both she and her husband had it. I actually watched that interview and can't see any reason to doubt what she said.
Many of these people can not prove they had Covid.
They just think they had it.
Could of easily been the Flu.
None of them have actually been tested.
The tests are not 100% accurate.
If they were on a ventilator, I would be more inclined to believe their story.
None of them had it that bad did they??
How many residents in Vegas?
How many confirmed Covid Cases??
What's the percentage??
I told you all on June 4th I went to the VA ER which is sort of like Ground Zero for Vegas.
Hardly anybody there and I didn't see one patient in the outdoor tents.
They were very serious about ppe over there.
Neither myself, nor my Uncle have had any symptoms whatsoever.
Covid is difficult to catch.
Sort of like AIDS.
In the 80s they told us 1 in 6 chance with an infected person.
Now they say 1 in 1250 to catch it from an infected woman.
If your having anal sex, your odds are about 1 out of 909.
Interesting note that your chances are 1 in 161 if the Fag is uncircumcised.
The numbers keep changing depending on circumstance but its not so easy to catch.
The tests are all fucked up as well showing positive and negative many times over.
It has been suggested the AIDS epidemic was all about Funding which I believe.
It's always about the Money.
Obviously, the same case with this Chinese Virus.
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Originally Posted by Mission146
Why would most want to go back to WoV and be subjected to an insane amount of cucked out rules? Anyone having a smidgen of self respect should refrain from supporting that site thru participation. It is no way to run a gambling forum. I think this place is probably getting more posting action than there anyhow lately.
It's totally for each individual to decide if they wanted to go back or not. I'm just saying that I would unban a bunch of folks if I had sole authority over the matter, and some would get PM's notifying them. Some would be unbanned, but not receive a PM, just because I wouldn't consider them worth the time to send it. You know how these forums work and a few are all but interconnected in a weird way, if they're still on them, they'd eventually figure out they were unbanned.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxPen
Total respect for you walking away as you did on your terms. Few us of did it but are with you in no interest in going back. Most of the posters I liked over there, and a few I seldom agree with like Dark Oz are here. I do miss RS and I’m sure he is ok and you talk to him from time to time.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxPenQuote:
Originally Posted by Mission146
Why would most want to go back to WoV and be subjected to an insane amount of cucked out rules? Anyone having a smidgen of self respect should refrain from supporting that site thru participation. It is no way to run a gambling forum. I think this place is probably getting more posting action than there anyhow lately.
I hope some at least stop in and check this site out. While some don’t like the honestly and unmoderated format here, it provides an alternative to WoV for those of us who aren’t always prim and proper.
For my part, I can do both. I don't think it's difficult to keep the rules. Kind of like with your last post, if I ever get suspended from WoV or DT, I hit the, "Post," button knowing it was going to happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
And, I do find the no profanity rule kind of fucking irritating, but it's Wizard's/The Owners' right to have it if they want it. I think it's a bit odd for a gambling site, but you would have to draw a line at something to appear as a professional site.
I miss the Asian gangster DJATC, he was good for some laughs.
The people who are pushing this scamdemic have ruined the lives of many people. All because they don't want Trump re-elected. Whatever's going on with Covid-19 will be dwarfed many times over by the repercussions of the lockdown and the permanent psychological damage of the average person that comes along with it. These have to be some of the most evil people who have ever existed.Quote:
Originally Posted by monet
Good low key poster.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozzy
AxelWolf said he donked off a bunch of team funds firing in the Blackjack Pit.
Heard he cured that disease but just saying, everything isn't all peachy keen roses.
That's weird.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayThe people who are pushing this scamdemic have ruined the lives of many people. All because they don't want Trump re-elected. Whatever's going on with Covid-19 will be dwarfed many times over by the repercussions of the lockdown and the permanent psychological damage of the average person that comes along with it. These have to be some of the most evil people who have ever existed.Quote:
Originally Posted by monet
I could have sworn I saw Donald Trump giving daily press conferences about the virus for a few weeks and his efforts to contain it.
He was the major person behind the scamdemic?
Who wrote that Trump that was the major person behind the scamdemic ? He was going on the advisement of Fauci and the CDC. The same CDC that enacted the policy for tallying deaths as Covid-19 deaths as long as the person tested positive for Covid-19. I guess Trump should have given press conferences stating that the whole thing was a hoax (even though he believed Fauci). It would have gone even better for him than the damage to his re-election chances already caused by the scamdemic itself right ? What would you have done in his position (if you wanted to get re-elected and you believed Fauci) ? Covid-19 is the lesser of the two evils. With the other evil being the lockdown which obliterated many peoples lives and which will lead to far more deaths than Covid-19 in the longer term.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkozThat's weird.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayThe people who are pushing this scamdemic have ruined the lives of many people. All because they don't want Trump re-elected. Whatever's going on with Covid-19 will be dwarfed many times over by the repercussions of the lockdown and the permanent psychological damage of the average person that comes along with it. These have to be some of the most evil people who have ever existed.Quote:
Originally Posted by monet
I could have sworn I saw Donald Trump giving daily press conferences about the virus for a few weeks and his efforts to contain it.
He was the major person behind the scamdemic?
So basically you are saying Trump is easily fooled into believing a hoax and doesn't know how to do due diligence.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayWho wrote that Trump that was the major person behind the scamdemic ? He was going on the advisement of Fauci and the CDC. The same CDC that enacted the policy for tallying deaths as Covid-19 deaths as long as the person tested positive for Covid-19. I guess Trump should have given press conferences stating that the whole thing was a hoax (even though he believed Fauci). It would have gone even better for him than the damage to his re-election chances already caused by the scamdemic itself right ? What would you have done in his position (if you wanted to get re-elected and you believed Fauci) ? Covid-19 is the lesser of the two evils. With the other evil being the lockdown which obliterated many peoples lives and which will lead to far more deaths than Covid-19 in the longer term.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkozThat's weird.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
I could have sworn I saw Donald Trump giving daily press conferences about the virus for a few weeks and his efforts to contain it.
He was the major person behind the scamdemic?
And his gullibility led to a terrible situation for the country.
Hundreds of thousands dead and an economic disaster.
And you feel this qualifies him to remain president
Coming from a turnstile jumping subway hobo creature that comment really means a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkoz
You like Axel spend most of your waking hours working on your phony images to anonymous people on these ridiculous forums.
Your particular choice of employment describes exactly what type of personally you really have. An untrustworthy con artist living your life based on a gamble with no guarantee of any type of security in the future. Your whole life is a gamble with a good chance of you ending up back into sewer life. At least you have experience living that life which does give you an advantage and always having something to fall back on.
Guys like you, KJ, and Axel need these sites to keep feeding your insecurities. But trust me, in the real scheme of things in the real world almost everyone that reads this garbage thank god for not being forced to go through life like a slivering snake.
I don't know that I would call that unproductive, especiallyQuote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
considering the fact that things just basically got started other than picking up some free play we're still in a wait-and-see mode before we start back up at the casinos.
I don't do it to turn them into profits, I do it for multiple reasons. One of those reasons being that online casinos can detect fingerprints on computers there are ways around that, but it usually entails multiple steps that and oftentimes are slow and glitchy. They're worth significantly more to me than whatever I purchase them for it. It's nice to know I can sell them at a profit if I wish. Sometimes I just give them away to people who need a computer.
It's also a hobby, I enjoy learning how to fix them as I go, I only do it when I get a bug up my ass.
I also picked a really fast gaming computer with a 32-inch monitor expensive mouse and keyboard for $300 bucks I'm pretty sure I can get $900 for the set up.
Generally disliked? That's a pretty bold statement, please show the numbers. Sure there are a few people that dislike me, I guess that's going to go with the territory considering how many posts I've made and how long I've been participating on the forums.
As far as I know, there's only one or two people from the forums that have actually met me in person that claim they dislike me. I couldn't tell you exactly how many people I've met from the forums, but I assume somewhere between 70 and 100.
Considering all the people that I interact with on the forums who haven't met me I can only think of a handful that are claiming that I'm sure there's more I haven't said anything. I'm not really that concerned about people I have never met and probably never will.
p.s. Still waiting for proof on those three things you claimed.
I haven't been reading all the post so excuse me if if I missed it when you accepted or denied my heads up Hold'em challenge. I'm also open to other forms of Poker as well.
No insecurities here.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackholeComing from a turnstile jumping subway hobo creature that comment really means a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkoz
You like Axel spend most of your waking hours working on your phony images to anonymous people on these ridiculous forums.
Your particular choice of employment describes exactly what type of personally you really have. An untrustworthy con artist living your life based on a gamble with no guarantee of any type of security in the future. Your whole life is a gamble with a good chance of you ending up back into sewer life. At least you have experience living that life which does give you an advantage and always having something to fall back on.
Guys like you, KJ, and Axel need these sites to keep feeding your insecurities. But trust me, in the real scheme of things in the real world almost everyone that reads this garbage thank god for not being forced to go through life like a slivering snake.
If you don't agree it was a hoax then you are saying that Trump's approach of warning that the virus was bad during his press conferences was appropriate and that consequently he should be re-elected. If you do think it was a hoax we agree. We also agree that it is an economic disaster. I feel that this economic disaster will kill more lives than the Covid-19 virus and that Trump is more likely to not get re-elected as a result. Anyhow, it was a crazy thing he did of believing the CDC and Fauci in regards to their infectious disease expertise rather than his own extensive infectious disease expertise. After all, Trump spent years in medical school and is an expert in Virology, so he should have gone with his own instincts here rather than believing Fauci and the CDC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkoz
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackholeComing from a turnstile jumping subway hobo creature that comment really means a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkoz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_LXPUYktFg
TP - Amen to your original post. Six short months ago we had an historically low unemployment and a raging economy. Biden's chances of beating Trump were so bleak that there were whispers of him being replaced because well, Captain Alzheimer wasn't (isn't) up to the task. Fast forward to now, with recession and covid and it's all Trump's fault. Meanwhile Joe still has dementia and Oz thinks everything is going to be better with him. Strange times.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayIf you don't agree it was a hoax then you are saying that Trump's approach of warning that the virus was bad during his press conferences was appropriate and that consequently he should be re-elected. If you do think it was a hoax we agree. We also agree that it is an economic disaster. I feel that this economic disaster will kill more lives than the Covid-19 virus and that Trump is more likely to not get re-elected as a result. Anyhow, it was a crazy thing he did of believing the CDC and Fauci in regards to their infectious disease expertise rather than his own extensive infectious disease expertise. After all, Trump spent years in medical school and is an expert in Virology, so he should have gone with his own instincts here rather than believing Fauci and the CDC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkoz
It's clearly pointless to discuss further with someone who knows nothing but bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayIf you don't agree it was a hoax then you are saying that Trump's approach of warning that the virus was bad during his press conferences was appropriate and that consequently he should be re-elected. If you do think it was a hoax we agree. We also agree that it is an economic disaster. I feel that this economic disaster will kill more lives than the Covid-19 virus and that Trump is more likely to not get re-elected as a result. Anyhow, it was a crazy thing he did of believing the CDC and Fauci in regards to their infectious disease expertise rather than his own extensive infectious disease expertise. After all, Trump spent years in medical school and is an expert in Virology, so he should have gone with his own instincts here rather than believing Fauci and the CDC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkoz
Someone who believes 120,000 people are not really dead from a virus in America and that there is a worldwide hoax being perpetrated by every country in the world
Or that believes Trump has any type of medical training and is an expert in virology (where do you even come up with that one. Makes me wonder if the Trump movement is just a troll movement)
And yet it wasn't AP's crying their whole lives were ruined by a few months out of work.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackholeComing from a turnstile jumping subway hobo creature that comment really means a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkoz
You like Axel spend most of your waking hours working on your phony images to anonymous people on these ridiculous forums.
Your particular choice of employment describes exactly what type of personally you really have. An untrustworthy con artist living your life based on a gamble with no guarantee of any type of security in the future. Your whole life is a gamble with a good chance of you ending up back into sewer life. At least you have experience living that life which does give you an advantage and always having something to fall back on.
Guys like you, KJ, and Axel need these sites to keep feeding your insecurities. But trust me, in the real scheme of things in the real world almost everyone that reads this garbage thank god for not being forced to go through life like a slivering snake.
And it wasn't AP's crying it was time to commit suicide because a few weeks without income had to be endured.
Most of America did the slithering snake act.
Poor Evenshithole has nobody to complain to:
"Babs hasn't checked in here
in 10 days. Face hasn't checked
in for weeks. What the heck is
going on."
What a crackhead.
Thanks Danny. Great points on Biden.Quote:
Originally Posted by dannyj
Best, TP.
You obviously knew I was being sarcastic about Trump's virology expertise. With regard to the virus, I said the virus was the lesser of two evils - not that it didn't exist or wasn't harmful. It's just the lesser of two evils (the economic deaths caused by lockdown hardship will be far greater IMHO). With regard to the 120,000 deaths I will again point out that CDC policy is to count a death as a Covid-19 death if the person has tested positive for Covid-19. Not only that - if it is believed by the medical staff that the deceased person they had treated had Covid-19, it can be tallied as a Covid-19 death. You don't have to take my word for it - it's plainly stated in their directive.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkozIt's clearly pointless to discuss further with someone who knows nothing but bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayIf you don't agree it was a hoax then you are saying that Trump's approach of warning that the virus was bad during his press conferences was appropriate and that consequently he should be re-elected. If you do think it was a hoax we agree. We also agree that it is an economic disaster. I feel that this economic disaster will kill more lives than the Covid-19 virus and that Trump is more likely to not get re-elected as a result. Anyhow, it was a crazy thing he did of believing the CDC and Fauci in regards to their infectious disease expertise rather than his own extensive infectious disease expertise. After all, Trump spent years in medical school and is an expert in Virology, so he should have gone with his own instincts here rather than believing Fauci and the CDC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkoz
Someone who believes 120,000 people are not really dead from a virus in America and that there is a worldwide hoax being perpetrated by every country in the world
Or that believes Trump has any type of medical training and is an expert in virology (where do you even come up with that one. Makes me wonder if the Trump movement is just a troll movement)
When the fuck did the CDC ever have a tallying policy like this in the history of infectious diseases ? When it became clear that Trump was likely to get re-elected and when the other made up Russia bullshit didn't work. And I'm not commenting on the quality of Trump here, I'm commenting on the methods being used to get him out of office which are total fucking evil (lockdown carnage to get someone you don't want in office out of office even though they were duly elected).
Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayYou obviously knew I was being sarcastic about Trump's virology expertise. With regard to the virus, I said the virus was the lesser of two evils - not that it didn't exist or wasn't harmful. It's just the lesser of two evils (the economic deaths caused by lockdown hardship will be far greater IMHO). With regard to the 120,000 deaths I will again point out that CDC policy is to count a death as a Covid-19 death if the person has tested positive for Covid-19. Not only that - if it is believed by the medical staff that the deceased person they had treated had Covid-19, it can be tallied as a Covid-19 death. You don't have to take my word for it - it's plainly stated in their directive.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkozIt's clearly pointless to discuss further with someone who knows nothing but bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
Someone who believes 120,000 people are not really dead from a virus in America and that there is a worldwide hoax being perpetrated by every country in the world
Or that believes Trump has any type of medical training and is an expert in virology (where do you even come up with that one. Makes me wonder if the Trump movement is just a troll movement)
When the fuck did the CDC ever have a tallying policy like this in the history of infectious diseases ? When it became clear that Trump was likely to get re-elected and when the other made up Russia bullshit didn't work. And I'm not commenting on the quality of Trump here, I'm commenting on the methods being used to get him out of office which are total fucking evil (lockdown carnage to get someone you don't want in office out of office even though they were duly elected).
The COVID-19 deaths are an undercount. All of this debating will be moot, as two years after the fact, the numbers will be there for everyone to see. There isn't much of a trick to this. You take mortality figures for locations stretching back four or five years. Unless something extraordinary happened, those numbers will be pretty consistent. Then compare them to this year's mortality figures for the town, city, county, state, and if there is a dramatic difference that jives with the flu counts, then it's due to COVID. All this weeping and debating that deaths are undercounted will be laid to rest when the numbers are matched up two years from now.
The economic-deaths argument is flawed in half a dozen ways. First of all, the alleged "alternative deaths" (suicide, drug use, domestic violence, stress) aren't going to come close to the virus death counts. But beyond that, the arguments themselves depend on the extra 120,000 deaths not causing their own spin-off deaths including suicide, drug use, domestic violence, stress.
I examine the equi-deaths argument in three separate installments on my blog. Superficially, it's an intricate argument, but it has enormous holes and built-in contradictions.
https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...-of-death.html
https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...-part-two.html
https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...ents-part.html
Lol, I actually thought you were serious about Trump being an expert on virology.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayYou obviously knew I was being sarcastic about Trump's virology expertise. With regard to the virus, I said the virus was the lesser of two evils - not that it didn't exist or wasn't harmful. It's just the lesser of two evils (the economic deaths caused by lockdown hardship will be far greater IMHO). With regard to the 120,000 deaths I will again point out that CDC policy is to count a death as a Covid-19 death if the person has tested positive for Covid-19. Not only that - if it is believed by the medical staff that the deceased person they had treated had Covid-19, it can be tallied as a Covid-19 death. You don't have to take my word for it - it's plainly stated in their directive.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkozIt's clearly pointless to discuss further with someone who knows nothing but bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
Someone who believes 120,000 people are not really dead from a virus in America and that there is a worldwide hoax being perpetrated by every country in the world
Or that believes Trump has any type of medical training and is an expert in virology (where do you even come up with that one. Makes me wonder if the Trump movement is just a troll movement)
When the fuck did the CDC ever have a tallying policy like this in the history of infectious diseases ? When it became clear that Trump was likely to get re-elected and when the other made up Russia bullshit didn't work. And I'm not commenting on the quality of Trump here, I'm commenting on the methods being used to get him out of office which are total fucking evil (lockdown carnage to get someone you don't want in office out of office even though they were duly elected).
Glad to see that's just humor.
I don't believe the lockdown Carnage was done to get rid of Trump.
I live in NYC and when it was climbing exponentially here many places shutdown on their own. Had nothing to with politics.
Of course, there are always some people on both sides of the aisle which will do some politicking moves.
But neither Trump nor liberals created or wanted this virus issue.
Trump still has a chance to pull a victory here. Find a treatment before the election and significantly before. By late summer end I would say.
He might be in luck as I am following a drug that is really close. (I invested in it on the stock market for full disclosure). I believe in it that much.
Even if it helps Trump get re-elected that's fine. I want the country back on track without fear of Coronavirus
Why does this guy keep linking blogs from an alt-left hate site pretending to be about gambling?Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzQuote:
Originally Posted by tableplayYou obviously knew I was being sarcastic about Trump's virology expertise. With regard to the virus, I said the virus was the lesser of two evils - not that it didn't exist or wasn't harmful. It's just the lesser of two evils (the economic deaths caused by lockdown hardship will be far greater IMHO). With regard to the 120,000 deaths I will again point out that CDC policy is to count a death as a Covid-19 death if the person has tested positive for Covid-19. Not only that - if it is believed by the medical staff that the deceased person they had treated had Covid-19, it can be tallied as a Covid-19 death. You don't have to take my word for it - it's plainly stated in their directive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkoz
When the fuck did the CDC ever have a tallying policy like this in the history of infectious diseases ? When it became clear that Trump was likely to get re-elected and when the other made up Russia bullshit didn't work. And I'm not commenting on the quality of Trump here, I'm commenting on the methods being used to get him out of office which are total fucking evil (lockdown carnage to get someone you don't want in office out of office even though they were duly elected).
The COVID-19 deaths are an undercount. All of this debating will be moot, as two years after the fact, the numbers will be there for everyone to see. There isn't much of a trick to this. You take mortality figures for locations stretching back four or five years. Unless something extraordinary happened, those numbers will be pretty consistent. Then compare them to this year's mortality figures for the town, city, county, state, and if there is a dramatic difference that jives with the flu counts, then it's due to COVID. All this weeping and debating that deaths are undercounted will be laid to rest when the numbers are matched up two years from now.
The economic-deaths argument is flawed in half a dozen ways. First of all, the alleged "alternative deaths" (suicide, drug use, domestic violence, stress) aren't going to come close to the virus death counts. But beyond that, the arguments themselves depend on the extra 120,000 deaths not causing their own spin-off deaths including suicide, drug use, domestic violence, stress.
I examine the equi-deaths argument in three separate installments on my blog. Superficially, it's an intricate argument, but it has enormous holes and built-in contradictions.
https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...-of-death.html
https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...-part-two.html
https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...ents-part.html
Times are Difficult for this Shyster as Sports Wagering has Imploded!Quote:
Originally Posted by mcap
Even Broke Billy is pointing out that the majority of posters from just a few years ago are gone at WoV. He also stated he felt the Wizard appears to not even want to be there anyone.
Tough times for the “Man of Integrity”. Is it any wonder he let KJ back after saying he was Dead to Him?
Prediction:. Billy leaves WOV and starts posting here.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
Wouldn't you guys love that
I'm curious why he asked about ZG and Zenzone.
The CV count is notoriously corrupt. And you completely ignore the millions of deaths of children worldwide the causation of which is the extreme poverty they are subjected to because of the economic shutdown. STOOOOOOOOPPIIIDDDDD!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Oh, and FUCK YOUR BLOG. It's nothing but socialist bullshit.
Millions of children starved from shutdown? Link please to legit article!Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmThe CV count is notoriously corrupt. And you completely ignore the millions of deaths of children worldwide the causation of which is the extreme poverty they are subjected to because of the economic shutdown. STOOOOOOOOPPIIIDDDDD!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Oh, and FUCK YOUR BLOG. It's nothing but socialist bullshit.
Oh and still waiting for links to violence inside CHAZ that you claimed were posted on YouTube
Are you just going to keep making up bullshit with no proof?
You are stating on the one hand that we should allow the data to come in order to make conclusions but then also stating in the same post that you already know that the Covid-19 deaths are an undercount and that "alternative deaths" (suicide, drug use, domestic violence, stress) aren't going to come close to the virus death counts (and I assume you mean that they will be much smaller than the virus death counts although you don't state this explicitly). Since you already know what will happen, I don't see why we need to wait for the data to come in.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
I would welcome him but I don’t see it ever happening. I hope I’m wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkozPrediction:. Billy leaves WOV and starts posting here.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
Wouldn't you guys love that
Who knows, considering how many kids depend on the free lunch program at school for there only meals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkoz
Since I know families that have kids who depend on the free lunch programs at school I can tell you the ones Inhave spoken too switched to either home meal delivery or became eligible for a temporary food stamp status.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfWho knows, considering how many kids depend on the free lunch program at school for there only meals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkoz
And yes, lol, under a republican president. But I am not for letting kids starve so I agree with that.
Let's face it, hardly anyone is starving in America. We have too many umbrellas in our system. Posters on here just like to imagine fake arguments because it's the only way they can win
It would be interesting to see Fatboy here, his skin is not thick enough, to take the heat, he will receive over here.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkozPrediction:. Billy leaves WOV and starts posting here.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
Wouldn't you guys love that
Don't shit in the candy box. Lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozzy
If you have seen the overall U.S. mortality data through the first week in May, which I did not post (but you should be able to find), the U.S. is running way, way over the usual mortality figures. So I'm comfortable (for me) saying that it's a blatant undercount of COVID deaths. For somebody arguing the other side, not sure a huge bulge in U.S. deaths through the first week in May would be absolutely lock convincing, so just wait until it's all sorted out in two years.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayYou are stating on the one hand that we should allow the data to come in order to make conclusions but then also stating in the same post that you already know that the Covid-19 deaths are an undercount and that "alternative deaths" (suicide, drug use, domestic violence, stress) aren't going to come close to the virus death counts (and I assume you mean that they will be much smaller than the virus death counts although you don't state this explicitly). Since you already know what will happen, I don't see why we need to wait for the data to come in.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Look, if Fauci and every other leading epidemiologist has said it's an undercount of deaths, and international studies show consistent undercounts, why would any civilian decide it's an overcount?
It's the only way to get their Trumpdummy re-elected. To minimize how many people died because he lied to them about how serious Covid-19 was and then pumped them full of Hope with Bleach, Lysol and Hydroxychloriquine as hoax curesQuote:
Originally Posted by redietzIf you have seen the overall U.S. mortality data through the first week in May, which I did not post (but you should be able to find), the U.S. is running way, way over the usual mortality figures. So I'm comfortable (for me) saying that it's a blatant undercount of COVID deaths. For somebody arguing the other side, not sure a huge bulge in U.S. deaths through the first week in May would be absolutely lock convincing, so just wait until it's all sorted out in two years.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayYou are stating on the one hand that we should allow the data to come in order to make conclusions but then also stating in the same post that you already know that the Covid-19 deaths are an undercount and that "alternative deaths" (suicide, drug use, domestic violence, stress) aren't going to come close to the virus death counts (and I assume you mean that they will be much smaller than the virus death counts although you don't state this explicitly). Since you already know what will happen, I don't see why we need to wait for the data to come in.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Look, if Fauci and every other leading epidemiologist has said it's an undercount of deaths, and international studies show consistent undercounts, why would any civilian decide it's an overcount?
I guess all the protesting and looting made all those Chink Virus numbers go down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GivGVavcJnoQuote:
Originally Posted by monet
Distrust. Examples: The CDC Covid-19 tallying policy, Look where Hitler led the German people, Gulf of Tonkin Incident, Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment. Just because a person is technically competent, it doesn't mean they won't say something to advance a particular agenda. If the May mortality figures are running high, it could be because lockdown repercussions are already exerting themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Yes, and trump’s China travel ban on Jan. 31st was racist too.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkozIt's the only way to get their Trumpdummy re-elected. To minimize how many people died because he lied to them about how serious Covid-19 was and then pumped them full of Hope with Bleach, Lysol and Hydroxychloriquine as hoax curesQuote:
Originally Posted by redietzIf you have seen the overall U.S. mortality data through the first week in May, which I did not post (but you should be able to find), the U.S. is running way, way over the usual mortality figures. So I'm comfortable (for me) saying that it's a blatant undercount of COVID deaths. For somebody arguing the other side, not sure a huge bulge in U.S. deaths through the first week in May would be absolutely lock convincing, so just wait until it's all sorted out in two years.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
Look, if Fauci and every other leading epidemiologist has said it's an undercount of deaths, and international studies show consistent undercounts, why would any civilian decide it's an overcount?
Posting this because it probably won’t last long. Obviously the poster is someone we have run into before and has had a issue with the Wizard. Not exactly a small list. It’s certainly not me because it’s not my style to create socks if anyone was thinking it.
But Whipper Snapper does make some good points. As Freddy would say, just another banned member on the list for posterity, just inflating the membership numbers.
Then there's "Hypocrite Billryan"Quote:
Originally Posted by The BozPosting this because it probably won’t last long. Obviously the poster is someone we have run into before and has had a issue with the Wizard. Not exactly a small list. It’s certainly not me because it’s not my style to create socks if anyone was thinking it.
But Whipper Snapper does make some good points. As Freddy would say, just another banned member on the list for posterity, just inflating the membership numbers.
"Rulez aren't rulez when they aren't enforced equally and fairly."
If this were the case, he'd have been nuked years ago for his numerous suspensions. He has to have more than Buzzard does.
Dude must be reading this board because that's EXACTLY WHAT I SAID about Aspergers lol! :D:D:DQuote:
Originally Posted by The BozPosting this because it probably won’t last long. Obviously the poster is someone we have run into before and has had a issue with the Wizard. Not exactly a small list. It’s certainly not me because it’s not my style to create socks if anyone was thinking it.
But Whipper Snapper does make some good points. As Freddy would say, just another banned member on the list for posterity, just inflating the membership numbers.
Asshole didn't give me credit though so he should be suspended HAHA
Certainly, suicides, drug overdoses, and domestic violence deaths can be collated away from virus deaths, so I kind of doubt there's any chance of them sneaking up on epidemiologists. Have you examined the annual death totals for these things -- suicides, drug overdoses, and domestic violence so you have some sense of proportion? These figures aren't state secrets. Suicides have been going up for the last 15 years in the U.S., quite dramatically, and it in fact correlates with income inequality growing, but a really bad regular flu year still kills as many people as commit suicide in the United States.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayDistrust. Examples: The CDC Covid-19 tallying policy, Look where Hitler led the German people, Gulf of Tonkin Incident, Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment. Just because a person is technically competent, it doesn't mean they won't say something to advance a particular agenda. If the May mortality figures are running high, it could be because lockdown repercussions are already exerting themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
As far as agendas go, I think a sane person would sit back and ask, "What is more likely? That virtually all epidemiologists in the U.S. are lying and that medical examiners are padding figures and that international researchers and writers are colluding to undercount their nations' totals, and that everyone but Fox News is covering this up, including international papers and academics in every country on earth, all in the service of preventing a second Trump term for some reason, or ... maybe 'I'm wrong'?"
If people want to believe in longshot after longshot, that's their prerogative, but if nothing that occurs (say, 200,000 U.S. deaths and still no epidemiologists agree with you and still no international studies show overcounts) can alter your position, then what you have is a religion.
Red, it’s hard to pinpoint a main cause of suicide, but I think you made too much correlation with the socioeconomic explanation of “income inequality”. Seems like if one were looking for the main cause, mental illness and depression might rank right up there. No?
Since deaths are counted as covid-19 deaths if a person tests positive for covid-19, no conclusions can be drawn if there is a spike in deaths - there can be no collation. The fact that this is the tallying policy was intentional to prevent that very collation/granulation. In other words, if policy makers/TPTB wanted an honest reckoning of what is actually going on, then they would not have put that tallying directive in place.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzCertainly, suicides, drug overdoses, and domestic violence deaths can be collated away from virus deaths, so I kind of doubt there's any chance of them sneaking up on epidemiologists. Have you examined the annual death totals for these things -- suicides, drug overdoses, and domestic violence so you have some sense of proportion? These figures aren't state secrets. Suicides have been going up for the last 15 years in the U.S., quite dramatically, and it in fact correlates with income inequality growing, but a really bad regular flu year still kills as many people as commit suicide in the United States.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayDistrust. Examples: The CDC Covid-19 tallying policy, Look where Hitler led the German people, Gulf of Tonkin Incident, Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment. Just because a person is technically competent, it doesn't mean they won't say something to advance a particular agenda. If the May mortality figures are running high, it could be because lockdown repercussions are already exerting themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
As far as agendas go, I think a sane person would sit back and ask, "What is more likely? That virtually all epidemiologists in the U.S. are lying and that medical examiners are padding figures and that international researchers and writers are colluding to undercount their nations' totals, and that everyone but Fox News is covering this up, including international papers and academics in every country on earth, all in the service of preventing a second Trump term for some reason, or ... maybe 'I'm wrong'?"
If people want to believe in longshot after longshot, that's their prerogative, but if nothing that occurs (say, 200,000 U.S. deaths and still no epidemiologists agree with you and still no international studies show overcounts) can alter your position, then what you have is a religion.
I find it very curious that so many people test positive for Corona and have little to no symptoms.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
I am pretty sure the test is fixed to show positive for all who take it.
That possibility crossed my mind too... Scary, really. :/ O.OQuote:
Originally Posted by monetI find it very curious that so many people test positive for Corona and have little to no symptoms.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
I am pretty sure the test is fixed to show positive for all who take it.
Perhaps you should look up what asymptomatic means and why that makes it so transmissible instead of coming up with your own untrained bullshitQuote:
Originally Posted by monetI find it very curious that so many people test positive for Corona and have little to no symptoms.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
I am pretty sure the test is fixed to show positive for all who take it.
Yes. Here's why this rigged testing thing you pointed out is better than the vaccination (if you vaccinate everyone, everyone will test positive for Covid-19, including people infected by the virus itself rather than by the vaccination) obfuscation technique - if you haul in a homeless person and test them with a legitimate test they might test negative (and so covid-19 death numbers can't be propped up with the rigged covid-death tallying technique) since it's likely such an off-the-grid person will not have been vaccinated. With a rigged test this never happens - anyone you hall in will test positive. Also it's very expensive to vaccinate everyone and there will be a lot resistance to vaccination by many people besides.Quote:
Originally Posted by monetI find it very curious that so many people test positive for Corona and have little to no symptoms.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
I am pretty sure the test is fixed to show positive for all who take it.
WhipperSnapper post was spot on and a top 5 post of all time. Shack has been driving that site to the ground, for well over a year now. Can you imagine if his two real life buddy's, DRich and SOOPOO hadn't picked up the slack, posting WAY more then they did in the past, how much of a graveyard that place would be.
And now the Wizard must really be pissed. He told Billy to basically go Fuck himself if he didn’t like how the site was ran. While my feelings on Billy are clear, he is one of the bigger contributors left over there. But as soon as he questioned the Wiz’s moderation, he snaps on loyal Bill.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozzy
It appears Whipper really pissed him off today, or maybe he just does have Aspergers. Note the only person to like the post was Poker Grinder, another one accused of having “issues”.
What he doesn’t get, or doesn’t care about is a lot of members have taken him up on his offer. Not sure if Billy will or not, but again if he doesn’t care about people leaving, why the reinstatement of KJ? It’s his way or the highway, yet a person “dead to him” was allowed back. Makes no sense unless we knew the deal between those 2. Or he is just a psychopath who changes personally daily.
Either way, it’s a big Fuck You to the Serbs by showing he doesn’t care if members stay or go. After all, it’s not his business anymore.
At one point Broke Ass Billy did 8 three-day suspensions in a row. No martingale. Teacher's pet. I haven't looked lately. Has he ever did more than a 3 day suspension?Quote:
Originally Posted by jbjbThen there's "Hypocrite Billryan"Quote:
Originally Posted by The BozPosting this because it probably won’t last long. Obviously the poster is someone we have run into before and has had a issue with the Wizard. Not exactly a small list. It’s certainly not me because it’s not my style to create socks if anyone was thinking it.
But Whipper Snapper does make some good points. As Freddy would say, just another banned member on the list for posterity, just inflating the membership numbers.
"Rulez aren't rulez when they aren't enforced equally and fairly."
If this were the case, he'd have been nuked years ago for his numerous suspensions. He has to have more than Buzzard does.
Dude, you need to wake up and smell the coffee. Its a well known fact the economic slowdown from the industrialized countries has affected third world countries. It's estimated that over 1 billion people are and will be thrown back into extreme poverty (extreme poverty defined as a family living on less than $5 a day). Its a well known fact the mortality rates for living in extreme poverty are the highest in the world by far. More than a million kids will likely die, along with adults. That's the consequences of the economic shutdown that you and redietz so proudly support.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkozMillions of children starved from shutdown? Link please to legit article!Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmThe CV count is notoriously corrupt. And you completely ignore the millions of deaths of children worldwide the causation of which is the extreme poverty they are subjected to because of the economic shutdown. STOOOOOOOOPPIIIDDDDD!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Oh, and FUCK YOUR BLOG. It's nothing but socialist bullshit.
Oh and still waiting for links to violence inside CHAZ that you claimed were posted on YouTube
Are you just going to keep making up bullshit with no proof?
But you don't have to worry about American kids starving. Our poor have apartments, cars, color TV's and cell phones. Not quite like being poor in a third world country.
Inside CHAZ there are plenty of assaults and property crimes. The occupiers have rules against filming and making videos. Don't get caught. There was a shooting last night still being investigated. People with apartments inside the zone afraid to go in so staying in hotels. But keep the propaganda up.
BTW, Black Lives Matter, the organization that you support, is a marxist organization. The leaders are marxists.
Now, redietz believes the shutdown should continue and fuck poor people going back to work. That's his own words. But on WoV he said he would be visiting LV in July. He's got to see about the futures bets for his customers. You see, futures bets are essential services. So it is essential that redietz make it to LV if he can to get those bets down. Meanwhile, fuck all the poor people. They can stay unemployed.
When I suspended myself and got banned for telling the Wizard to GFY and Jump Off a Cliff, I was told that Mike is on the spectrum and has some form of Aspergers.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
AxelWolf, BBB and others told me this, through PMs, to calm me down and to not take it too serious what he said about a certain gambler and pictures on his phone.
Mike stated that I got banned for creating a duplicate account named PingPangPong and he was the only one on the site who didn't know it was monet.
BBB contacted me through PM, telling me that she knew it was me and wanted to know if I wanted to reinstate monet or PingPangPong.
I replied that the name monet could be a problem and that I probably should keep PingPangPong.
So she weaved some stories through PMs to Mike and others that they needed to reinstate me under PingPangPong.
In hindsight, I was ignorant and didn't read the rules of the forum.
Directly being derogatory to Mike was what really got me banned because they were working on a suspension before that.
It might of been a few weeks suspension from what I gathered.
Later, creating more duplicates/socks and posting got me nuked.
I still have a bunch they never caught but I hardly post over there anymore.
After the whole incident Mike said that he and his crew had strayed from policy and that is when WizardOfNothing got banned/nuked.
It appears that he was on the site formally as StrictlyAP and everyone knew he was WizardOfNothing except the Leader Mike, yet again lol.
So they got rid of WoN.
Later, WoN got involved in scandals ripping members off as they let him recruit members through the Private Message Back Door.
They even let him advertise his recruitment for a long time in his signature.
Mission146 had his own debacle dealing with the site and WoN.
WoN actually PMed me a few times telling me about some mistake or play.
I never once responded to him as I figured it was some sort of a set up.
BBB had told me in person that Mike had a form of Asperger.
I didn't know, nor care about that as I figured it wasn't clinically diagnosed.
Sounded more like a joke they all bring up time and time again to rib their buddy.
What was obvious was her and others stated they can't be around Mike for more than 45 minutes or so before they have had enough of his personality.
The main point is that it is all about the back door PM system.
They Lie, Cheat and Steal and operate as a group within the group.
Lesson Learned for me though as I didn't realize how serious forum rules actually are on most sites.
WoV was only my second Forum I had ever posted on.
I literally didn't realize you could get banned from Forums/Websites lol.
I never had a problem for years on Civfanatics Forum because all I every posted was questions, strategies and game experience.
I never got any return for my kindness towards meeting these people in person.
It became clear that people were looking for a sponsor for the most part.
I gave away over a thousand in comp and spent some cash on drinks and pool time.
It cost me a little headache giving a drunk a ride to a 7/11.
I'm easy going though and have no problem giving away comp and I even give homeless people working the corner cash from time to time.
I'm still the Bad Guy though and don't ever forget that!
Whatever, sorry for this wall of text as you kiddies say.
A hospital gets 1.2 million dollars from the feds if its a CV death. Any other cause and they get nothing. Nope, absolutely no room for corruption there. People are as honest as the day is long. No one would dare tamper with the numbers. After all, honesty is the best policy.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzCertainly, suicides, drug overdoses, and domestic violence deaths can be collated away from virus deaths, so I kind of doubt there's any chance of them sneaking up on epidemiologists. Have you examined the annual death totals for these things -- suicides, drug overdoses, and domestic violence so you have some sense of proportion? These figures aren't state secrets. Suicides have been going up for the last 15 years in the U.S., quite dramatically, and it in fact correlates with income inequality growing, but a really bad regular flu year still kills as many people as commit suicide in the United States.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayDistrust. Examples: The CDC Covid-19 tallying policy, Look where Hitler led the German people, Gulf of Tonkin Incident, Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment. Just because a person is technically competent, it doesn't mean they won't say something to advance a particular agenda. If the May mortality figures are running high, it could be because lockdown repercussions are already exerting themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
As far as agendas go, I think a sane person would sit back and ask, "What is more likely? That virtually all epidemiologists in the U.S. are lying and that medical examiners are padding figures and that international researchers and writers are colluding to undercount their nations' totals, and that everyone but Fox News is covering this up, including international papers and academics in every country on earth, all in the service of preventing a second Trump term for some reason, or ... maybe 'I'm wrong'?"
If people want to believe in longshot after longshot, that's their prerogative, but if nothing that occurs (say, 200,000 U.S. deaths and still no epidemiologists agree with you and still no international studies show overcounts) can alter your position, then what you have is a religion.
If you believe all that I have some property a little east of Miami you might be interested in.