The Fruits Of -EV Video Poker

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11-05-2018, 02:55 PM
Rob.Singer

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

I'm "profitting from a scam"?

It'd be nice for you to clarify that with a few facts and details. Or would you prefer to be looked at as dumb as a bag of rocks, you know, like every time Nancy Pelosi thinks she's making some valid point?

Just curious, how many people have you meet up with and taught them your system? How many of them were successful? How much did they make and what levels did they play? How many of them are still playing consistently(or at all) still today? Has anyone consistently made a living playing your system for more than a year or two? When is the last time you taught someone? Are there any credible people who will tell us about their success? What about people who failed(ya, I know, if they failed it was their fault)?

Would you ever teach or show someone your system using your own money?

First axel, no one I've trained doesn't have a job or is interested in "making a living" off of video poker. As I've said many times and that you casino rats don't want to get, a hundred k a year doesn't cut it for those at my level.

Most or all I've trained don't consistently play at the denominations I taught them at. How many of you people have a gambling-specific bankroll of $170,000? Yes, none.

My students would in no way enjoy subjecting themselves to the lies and insults of jealous and misguided forum clowns. Not all have the talent of the insult as I do.

And here's where you and kew are even dumber than dumb. If I were operating such a stupid scam where I was supposedly taking a cut of the profits of my "students" in singular short-term sessions as you assert, then you're both admitting to the fact that my strategy does indeed win quite a bit of money overall.

Are you both sure you want to humiliate yourselves with such a statement?
11-05-2018, 03:22 PM
slingshot

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Originally Posted by coach belly

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Originally Posted by regnis

And--if the "students" are making a profit, whether short term, long term, or any other term, where is the scam? A profit is good---beats accumulated EV.

So far the only "student" of Rob Singer that's stepped forward is slingshot.

I don't know if sling has ever met Singer, but it doesn't sound like he has any problem playing according to Singer's methods.

I wouldn't necessarily expect anyone who plays successfully using Singer's strategies to crow about that on any gambling forums, but those who have been scammed by Singer would certainly speak up and condemn him to anyone and everyone.

I have good success with artt at 5-10-25¢. It's one level less than Rob recommends. Unless better than average luck comes my way, I usually walk away with $50-$65. I go on the days of my freebies and enjoy the meals/gifts. After 9 months of playing thus, my Diamond status was restored. I was surprised when I replaced my lost card and they congratulated me. I had a chance to meet Rob and due to a freak accident missed him. Fortunately, he kept his word and answered my emails (no charge!). The best part is, the more you play the strategy the more natural it becomes and the more one uses their OWN mind to play.
11-05-2018, 03:36 PM
Alan Mendelson

Someone should tell that poster who uses his own name on the forum that unlike Dan he's not protected from libel lawsuits.
11-05-2018, 03:49 PM
redietz

The thing about courts of law -- they allow math and expert witnesses. It would be fun. Plus we could meet some trainees after all of these years and put them on the stand. Maybe even you, Mr. Mendelson. We'd learn whether you really believe the systems win for people other than Argentino, which is a statement noticeably absent from your posts.
11-05-2018, 03:51 PM
The Boz

After all this I’m still laughing at the pictures Rob posted. There is no way anyone could be impressed with that pile of obsolete electronics. Who still uses a Mini Tape answering machine? Can’t even find one on EBay but did find new digital ones for $16.99.

The tabletop VP player? Around $6.99

The handgun? Tough guys carry Glocks.

It overall looks like something from the 90’s.

There is no way Robbo thought ANYONE would be impressed with this pile of junk.

I’ve seen better stuff taken to a local township electronics recycling day.
11-05-2018, 03:56 PM
Keystone

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Originally Posted by The Boz

After all this I’m still laughing at the pictures Rob posted. There is no way anyone could be impressed with that pile of obsolete electronics. Who still uses a Mini Tape answering machine? Can’t even find one on EBay but did find new digital ones for $16.99.

The tabletop VP player? Around $6.99

The handgun? Tough guys carry Glocks.

It overall looks like something from the 90’s.

There is no way Robbo thought ANYONE would be impressed with this pile of junk.

I’ve seen better stuff taken to a local township electronics recycling day.

You`re right...I just looked at picture #2 again and noticed the Glock...upon further review, I also noticed a little jar of lubricant underneath the fan lol....I guess Rob feels the need to protect himself in case any intruder walks in while he`s rubbing one out to midget porn on his computer :rolleyes:
11-05-2018, 04:00 PM
redietz

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Originally Posted by The Boz

After all this I’m still laughing at the pictures Rob posted. There is no way anyone could be impressed with that pile of obsolete electronics. Who still uses a Mini Tape answering machine? Can’t even find one on EBay but did find new digital ones for $16.99.

The tabletop VP player? Around $6.99

The handgun? Tough guys carry Glocks.

It overall looks like something from the 90’s.

There is no way Robbo thought ANYONE would be impressed with this pile of junk.

I’ve seen better stuff taken to a local township electronics recycling day.

I don't pick on people for living modestly. I live modestly (when I'm not hanging with sundry and various). My first thought was that Argentino had been drinking or something.

Honestly, I have the worst TV/computer setup I have ever had in my life right now, and after seeing these pics, I feel better about it. And I feel better about my $1700 shotgun, which I may actually fire some day.
11-05-2018, 04:13 PM
Alan Mendelson

Math experts. Allegations of a scam. Proof of a scam. Evidence of a scam. Victim of the alleged scam. Financial records of a scam.

Math experts. Allegations of a con. Proof of a con. Evidence of a con. Victim of the alleged con. Financial records of a con.

Math experts. Libel.

Some things don't add up.
11-05-2018, 04:19 PM
coach belly

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Originally Posted by redietz

I have the worst TV/computer setup I have ever had in my life right now

How does one get there in his 60's? Taking the road less traveled?
11-05-2018, 04:23 PM
MaxPen

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

MaxPen I wouldn't mind an 85 year old with $15-million either. That's also a "100."

Ask redietz if he has any proof that Singer scammed or conned anyone? I never saw anyone at any time on any forum or website say that they were scammed or conned.

Have you?

By the way, a 70 year old with $30-million would be nice.

Yes, Alan, I get where your coming from and I am not surprised that you require the younger ones to have more money. Same broken logic used to justify -EV casino play.
11-05-2018, 04:28 PM
The Boz

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

I'm "profitting from a scam"?

It'd be nice for you to clarify that with a few facts and details. Or would you prefer to be looked at as dumb as a bag of rocks, you know, like every time Nancy Pelosi thinks she's making some valid point?

Just curious, how many people have you meet up with and taught them your system? How many of them were successful? How much did they make and what levels did they play? How many of them are still playing consistently(or at all) still today? Has anyone consistently made a living playing your system for more than a year or two? When is the last time you taught someone? Are there any credible people who will tell us about their success? What about people who failed(ya, I know, if they failed it was their fault)?

Would you ever teach or show someone your system using your own money?

First axel, no one I've trained doesn't have a job or is interested in "making a living" off of video poker. As I've said many times and that you casino rats don't want to get, a hundred k a year doesn't cut it for those at my level.

Most or all I've trained don't consistently play at the denominations I taught them at. How many of you people have a gambling-specific bankroll of $170,000? Yes, none.

My students would in no way enjoy subjecting themselves to the lies and insults of jealous and misguided forum clowns. Not all have the talent of the insult as I do.

And here's where you and kew are even dumber than dumb. If I were operating such a stupid scam where I was supposedly taking a cut of the profits of my "students" in singular short-term sessions as you assert, then you're both admitting to the fact that my strategy does indeed win quite a bit of money overall.

Are you both sure you want to humiliate yourselves with such a statement?

No, you are just using the suckers for a free roll. As Alan says, anyone can hit a jackpot anytime.

It’s one of the oldest scams in the book. Even a blind squirrel..,you know the rest...you live it.

RE and I can tell stories all day about scammers that use these type methods. And some of them have even made enough to move up from Tape Answering Machines to digital.

Your hustle is nothing new or unique. While it’s the 5th and it’s too late for this month, catch up with Alan before the 1st of December, he will probably fall for it.
11-05-2018, 04:43 PM
mickeycrimm

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Originally Posted by regnis

And--if the "students" are making a profit, whether short term, long term, or any other term, where is the scam? A profit is good---beats accumulated EV.

A profit IS accumulated EV.
11-05-2018, 04:52 PM
MaxPen

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Robbochio.....you should grace us with some photos of that state of the art sound system that you rock. The one that you have like 6 of or something. Yeah, you know, that one.

Never mind, I found it.

Ahhhhh, The Rotten Fruits of -EV Video Poker.
11-05-2018, 04:55 PM
The Boz

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Not sure how he fits all the state of the art equipment in his motor home.
11-05-2018, 05:04 PM
MaxPen

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Originally Posted by The Boz

Not sure how he fits all the state of the art equipment in his motor home.

I see that he traded up recently. Nice, good job Robbie.
11-05-2018, 05:49 PM
redietz

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Originally Posted by coach belly

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Originally Posted by redietz

I have the worst TV/computer setup I have ever had in my life right now

How does one get there in his 60's? Taking the road less traveled?

LOL. Coach, I think the setup is okay by civilian standards. Previously, I had seven televisions in the main room, plus a couple of towers/screens and a laptop. Had both satellite and cable. Nowadays, getting old, no huddle offenses are tougher to track in live games, so I'm down to four small televisions, one big screen (which I sometimes do not use), and a couple of laptops for streaming. The office room has its own separate setup with big screens connected to the computers.

Thanks for the brilliant comment, though. Gave me an excuse to spell it out.

If anyone has seen John Goodman as a sort-of Billy Walters in the movie "The Runner," that's the setup I want, baby.
11-05-2018, 05:55 PM
coach belly

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Originally Posted by redietz

Gave me an excuse to spell it out.

You could have posted photos, how is spelling it out better than the photos that Singer posted?
11-05-2018, 06:12 PM
MisterV

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

Someone should tell that poster who uses his own name on the forum that unlike Dan he's not protected from libel lawsuits.

Someone should tell you to sue your detractors for libel; maybe that will discourage the gang-raping you receive here regularly.

Nah, it won't change: best walk around with a tube of KY and a box of maxi pads, that looks to be your lot in life.
11-05-2018, 06:18 PM
Alan Mendelson

Unfortunately I can sue only those who use their real name. I'm looking forward to a list of those people who Rob Singer conned and scammed along with evidence of my involvement in the schemes. Until then wise people should shut the fuck up.
11-05-2018, 06:21 PM
MisterV

Oh, please, alan, put a sock in it.

Enough of the drama.

What's next, another "I'm leaving this board!" tantrum?

Cowboy up, pilgrim: cowboy up.

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