Copy of letter sent to multiple casinos

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Originally Posted by coach belly

The big player in Jacobson's story had won 10s of millions of dollars,
are you insisting that the casino stopped comping his stays,
and had him pay his own way to come lose it all back??

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This did not take place at a US casino, it was in Asia. As I recall, the player got in total about an additional 125M in cash comps (paid in non-negotiable chips). The comps were never taken away. Also, the player had his own private parking spot, his own private high limit lounge that was permanently reserved for him 24/7 with a live dealer and staff, should he show up. And to answer KJ's query, this player played several times per month over his winning streak, trips often lasting days. He must have played well over 1000 shoes. And, when you figured it all out, he was only 2.8 SD above expectation, not at all unreasonable. The chances of that result or better are 0.0026 or about 1-in-385. If a $100 player did the same, no one would have thought twice. Casinos have thousands of players each day, so they should expect dozens of 2.8SD (or better) players. His max bet, I believe, was about $125,000, but it may have been more. This same player had a similar result at a neighboring casino, though not quite as extreme (I think up about $100M). But, fortunately, both casinos let him play and even a player who is lucky enough to be 2.8 SD ahead will eventually be a loser.

So yes, this winning loser became a losing loser.

People on both sides, AP's and non-AP's, are getting a lot of stuff wrong in these threads.

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Originally Posted by Eliot

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Originally Posted by coach belly

The big player in Jacobson's story had won 10s of millions of dollars,
are you insisting that the casino stopped comping his stays,
and had him pay his own way to come lose it all back??

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This did not take place at a US casino, it was in Asia. As I recall, the player got in total about an additional 125M in cash comps. The comps were never taken away. Also, the player had his own private parking spot, his own private high limit lounge that was permanently reserved for him 24/7 with a live dealer and staff, should he show up. And to answer KJ's query, this player played several times per month over his winning streak, trips often lasting days. He must have played well over 1000 shoes. And, when you figured it all out, he was only 2.8 SD above expectation, not at all unreasonable. The chances of that result or better are 0.0026 or about 1-in-385. If a $100 player did the same, no one would have thought twice. Casinos have thousands of players each day, so they should expect dozens of 2.8SD (or better) players. His max bet, I believe, was about $125,000, but it may have been more. This same player had a similar result at a neighboring casino, though not quite as extreme (I think up about $100M). But, fortunately, both casinos let him play and even a player who is lucky enough to be 2.8 SD ahead will eventually be a loser.

So yes, this winning loser became a losing loser.

People on both sides, AP's and non-AP's, are getting a lot of stuff wrong in these threads.

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Ok, so the guy played more than I was guessing, but still like I said, falls into not so unreasonable variance. Just seems massive because the high limits we are talking about. Pretty hard for most of us to wrap our heads around those kind of numbers.

Eliot, feel free to correct anything you like. I won't go after you, you little traitor! :D (kidding)

By the way Eliot, I know you haven't had the benefit of watching Mdawg play as Michael did, but based on the numbers and stories/claims you are reading, do you care to offer an opinion as to how likely this claim in it's entirty is?

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Took a quick look, couldn't find it. But I can tell you it wasn't part of his DAY XXX description. It went something like this. I was thinking about the 80k win the other day and....

So anyway, I am getting sleepy and going to take a short nap before the Knights game. I might look later, but only if you are going to make it worth my while, by agreeing to self suspend. Otherwise, screw you. I am getting real tired of dealing with you.

BUT....in this quick search I did find 2 interesting things.

1.) He made some sort of reference about expecting to have a 100k or more win sometime soon, so we can look for that. :D

2.) he mentioned a previous trip where he won 500k in 10 days.

Like I said, the guy is clearly escalating, in search of new attention. So we have that to look forward to. :rolleyes:

Funny thing, in Singer's tale, it was about this point, that Rob introduced the Newell. Mdawg appears to be headed for a luxury penthouse condo overlooking the strip. :D You just can't make this stuff up.

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Actually, I just saw an ad for a Newell for rent on the roof of the Cosmo. Some Israeli bought it in Arizona, but then realized he couldn't drive it back to Israel, so he made a deal with the Cosmo.

It's supposed to be a real nice set-up. Two girls in bikinis wash it down every day for you so you can see the lights of the strip, and you get to keep the extra squeegees.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

By the way Eliot, I know you haven't had the benefit of watching Mdawg play as Michael did, but based on the numbers and stories/claims you are reading, do you care to offer an opinion as to how likely this claim in it's entirety is?

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The video posted above summarizes my opinion. There are far too many of these folks to get involved in any one case. One disappears, 10 more show up. I have been repeatedly asked by many people to refute the claims made by online personalities with a much bigger reach that these boards. I refuse to engage any case directly. Life is too short to waste a precious moment on them. But, providing tools for others to make an assessment of claims, that I will do. Give a guy a fishing pole vs. giving him a fish.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

By the way Eliot, I know you haven't had the benefit of watching Mdawg play as Michael did, but based on the numbers and stories/claims you are reading, do you care to offer an opinion as to how likely this claim in it's entirety is?

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The video posted above summarizes my opinion. There are far too many of these folks to get involved in any one case. One disappears, 10 more show up. I have been repeatedly asked by many people to refute the claims made by online personalities with a much bigger reach that these boards. I refuse to engage any case directly. Life is too short to waste a precious moment on them. But, providing tools for others to make an assessment of claims, that I will do. Give a guy a fishing pole vs. giving him a fish.

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What makes MDawg different from, say, the half a dozen committed baccarat whack-a-doodles on Gambling Forums, is that MDawg has managed to become the flagship poster at what was alleged to be the most math-oriented general readership American gambling forum, WoV.

And he's backed up by various cheerleader posters at WoV, who don't post here for completely explicable reasons. So the Dawg has made a real commitment across multiple forums to push this tale.

He needs his own podcast. Maybe, since he's been doxed, he can find some peace writing and broadcasting his own stuff under his own name. God bless the dude. He works hard to push really banal narratives. At some point, we need escalation (already in progress) and maybe zombies or aliens to spice things up. I vote for robot hookers. Then he could still be a good dude for technically not cheating on his wife, and the photos would be more interesting.

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Originally Posted by redietz

What makes MDawg different from, say, the half a dozen committed baccarat whack-a-doodles on Gambling Forums, is that MDawg has managed to become the flagship poster at what was alleged to be the most math-oriented general readership American gambling forum, WoV.

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The key word in this lament is "was". I have more of an issue with the infomercials for affiliate casinos posing as audits than I do this poster. I ran an I-net casino auditing company for 6 years, one Mike sold to me. I understand audits, these guys do not. For me, the posting of those videos is the real shame on that site.

Think about the sheer number of talented mathematicians, game developers and AP's who no longer post on WoV and you will realize that any particular gripe against an individual posting there is a waste of time. WoV is not coming back. But good for Michael, he made and continues to make $$$ from the sale -- it is our own failure for wanting something that was good in the past to still exist. Death is tough. For example, I really enjoyed bj21.com back when it was thriving 20 years ago. Now it sucks. Just think of WoV the same way.

So did Boz write a letter mentioning MDawg real name is Calvin Broadus?

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Originally Posted by monet

I'm gonna get that tableplay though, if it is the last thing on Earth that I do.
He will be outed!

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Time for me to find a good plastic surgeon ;-)

I knew Boz quit the VCT forum for awhile because his wife and he got doxxed. I wondered who did the doxxing. I wasn't paying close enough attention to know it was MDawg. If MDawg would have PM'd me telling me he went out of his way to find out who my wife and I were, and found out who we were, I would take it as a threat whether he verbally made a threat or not. Just saying it implies he's telling Box to watch his step or else.

MDawg telling Boz he knows who he and his wife are is an implied threat. MDawg tried to push around the wrong dude so now he is paying a price.

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Originally Posted by tableplay

Time for me to find a good plastic surgeon ;-)

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DarkOz can sell you some expensive masks!

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

I knew Boz quit the VCT forum for awhile because his wife and he got doxxed. I wondered who did the doxxing. I wasn't paying close enough attention to know it was MDawg. If MDawg would have PM'd me telling me he went out of his way to find out who my wife and I were, and found out who we were, I would take it as a threat whether he verbally made a threat or not. Just saying it implies he's telling Box to watch his step or else.

MDawg telling Boz he knows who he and his wife are is an implied threat. MDawg tried to push around the wrong dude so now he is paying a price.

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Yeah, that's pretty much the way I see it. MDawg never grasped the cultural disconnect between himself and some folks, me included. He never really got the "for every action, there's an equal, opposite, and usually badass reaction." He showed up out of the blue, with no gambling cred but with nonsensical tales and figured he was golden. What could go wrong?

I'm not sure where Boz grew up, but his wife grew up down the road from my hometown. We're talking hard coal region, miners and truckers and towns falling into the earth due to massive mine fires (Centralia). We're talking home of the Molly Maguires, who were hung about eight miles away in Pottsville. If somebody does you wrong, the law is not your default option.

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

I knew Boz quit the VCT forum for awhile because his wife and he got doxxed. I wondered who did the doxxing. I wasn't paying close enough attention to know it was MDawg. If MDawg would have PM'd me telling me he went out of his way to find out who my wife and I were, and found out who we were, I would take it as a threat whether he verbally made a threat or not. Just saying it implies he's telling Box to watch his step or else.

MDawg telling Boz he knows who he and his wife are is an implied threat. MDawg tried to push around the wrong dude so now he is paying a price.

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Even if everything you typed in this post is true, your pal Boz, didn't handle his personal business like a man.
He handled it like a little Bitch Ass Punk Pussy.
Showing and Proving that he is no different than his Forum Enemies: the Wizard of Odds, ZenKing and MDawg.
It's the same thing as what QueerJ does when he calls the Interweb Police.
Fuckers can't handle their problems they need Mommy, Daddy and Big Government to scare the Boogey Men away.

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Originally Posted by tableplay

Time for me to find a good plastic surgeon ;-)

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DarkOz can sell you some expensive masks!

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Yes. Thank you for the excellent money saving (and health saving) suggestion Monet. The 1-bit operation is salvaged !!

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Originally Posted by redietz

He showed up out of the blue, with no gambling cred but with nonsensical tales and figured he was golden. What could go wrong?

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He showed up out of the blue, with no gambling cred but with nonsensical tales and figured he was golden. What could go wrong? --->

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Originally Posted by Eliot

Give a guy a fishing pole vs. giving him a fish.

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Yeah, but I even like fish. Smells like women. :( Now if you could teach me to catch or grow some ice cream, hell yeah!:D

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Originally Posted by redietz

What makes MDawg different from, say, the half a dozen committed baccarat whack-a-doodles on Gambling Forums, is that MDawg has managed to become the flagship poster at what was alleged to be the most math-oriented general readership American gambling forum, WoV.

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The key word in this lament is "was". .

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Can't argue with this. As much as some of us want it, WoV is gone.

But I disagree with you in that I do think there is an important role for people like you and Wizard, math guys, in debunking these guys. In the absense of that you just have what looks like a lot of back and forth by different members. Guy that are respected as math and gambling math experts are the ones that make a difference. But I respect your right to not get down and dirty each time.

Ok, so is mickey correct. Is Mdawg the one that doxxed Boz and his wife? I didn't even know that. Since Boz isn't at Wov and hasn't been for a long time, that has to mean this stems from far back, pre-Mdawg days meaning Mdawg is someone else (previous member). And if that is the case, Wizard HAS to know that and that makes him even more complicit! The plot keeps thickening and getting nastier and nastier.

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But I disagree with you in that I do think there is an important role for people like you and Wizard, math guys, in debunking these guys. In the absense of that you just have what looks like a lot of back and forth by different members. Guy that are respected as math and gambling math experts are the ones that make a difference. But I respect your right to not get down and dirty each time.

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And I will give a example of this. In the first drama or calling out of a player making claims that couldn't be, back on Norm's blackjack forum, it was a handful of players, professional players, myself and two others leading the charge saying these claims just can't be. They defied math. It went the usual route, sinking to name calling and attacks and suspensions. Norm the math guy refused to get involve, so it just went on that way, what seemed like a handful of players challenging one guy and a couple supporters. Of course, I was banned and others left, which just left the guy to continue his claims for several years.

Finally, it was Don Schlesinger, a highly respected blackjack math expert who steped in and made the very same arguements some of us had made 2 years prior and finally ended the whole thing. Totally debunked the guy disappeared. So that is what it takes, you highly respected math guys to step in and say, "no that is not the way the math works". People like me, even as a proffessional player, carry no weight.

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Surprised youtube hasn't taken it down.
It certainly is on point with this thread and the conversation about all the Dirty Rats involved with this Forum.

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For the record, and BOZ knows this, and has even said as much, I had nothing to do with his being doxxed. I noticed that he was gone, and then he came back and stated that he had been doxxed and this was news to me.
I did mention that I knew who he is after Boz came on here threatening to doxx me about a month ago (and even then I mentioned that I knew who Boz is, I said nothing about his wife), which incidentally Boz's threats that "MDawg is going to get doxxed" go back a good year.

In fact, after Boz returned from his absence I got the impression that he had had some health problems, and I actually inquired into his health and commented that I was glad to hear that he was okay. In other words, I haven't ever to my recollection said anything much untoward to Boz. Why, he suddenly decided to claim that he was about to doxx me, or what he has against me based on the interactions he and I have had, is bizarre to me.

In any case, the screenshot / info of his doxxing was handed off to me by someone who didn't think that it was right that Boz was threatening to doxx me, and it was handed off well after the doxxing of Boz was disclosed online. It was sent to me without my asking for it, and I don’t believe the person sending it was even the one who had anything to do with the Boz doxxing either.

As I think back I don’t recall any particularly unkind words exchanged between Boz and me, so I am at loss to understand why he decided to undertake or claims to have undertaken some plot against me.

If Boz is so certain that he knows who I am, why not contact me directly and let’s settle whatever the alleged bad blood is between us with conversation. And if he’s not so certain that he knows who I am and is fearful of getting his ass sued by the wrong guy who he is claiming is MDawg, why not send MDawg a PM at this forum.


I mean if it has come to the point where “so and so is acting like an a-hole” is all it takes to get doxxed or outed to the Gaming Control Board (of all places), then there really is no point in posting any further at a forum like this. Which, let’s face it, Blackhole and AndrewG are right. Best to ignore this sinking VCT ship.