Fiction as fiction can be

Not about me Rob. No matter how much you guys try to make it about me.

The simple fact is Wizard called out Mdawgs claim as unbelievable and ridiculous and instead of explaining himself or challenging wizard, mdawg ran here and renewed attack on me when I haven't posted here in a week.

I am not interested in continuing or renewing the silly trolling from you guys with all the made up nonsense including new nonsense about my nationality/heritage.

I am just wondering why MDawg is a afraid to answer and address Wizards concerns.

Instead we get more "dead pope, black smoke" . ;)

Just as UNKewJ has advanced to the point in his compulsive lying where he no longer fesses up to the sock puppets he has created (this level of lying started around when he came up with the "my baby bro and other family members might be posting for me" lie), here today too he is afraid to admit that he's the one who pestered the Wizard into making a post about my winning blackjack session.

Why do you care? Just admit it. Whether I care or not about your being the source, I did respond, at WOV. Not to you, here, because like I said, I don't whine like a fairy and have my panties in a bunch, like a repetitive whining UNKOOL poster. :eek:

EVERYTHING kew posts is about him, like it or not. Here, he's trying to bring up something NOBODY REALLY CARES ABOUT BUT HIM. He's still ticked at mdawg for helping bring him down to dirt level. So he grabs anything he can from anywhere possible and tries to give his past lies credibility.

Save your waning sanity kew. Just let your hate and envy of mdawg go.

Mdawg just keeps repeating more and more "dead Pope, black smoke".

Let me try to explain what all this deflecting he is doing is about and why it matters.

Card counting is about using the information from the cards that have already been played to determine when the remaining cards favor the player. In the simplest of terms, an abundance of aces and 10 value cards remaining will favor the player and flip the advantage towards the player. Any legitimate count from hi-lo, up through level 2, 3, 4, 5 counts will do this to varying degrees. What Mdawg is now saying, "total recall" would be among the most powerful offering the largest advantage.

So this isn't about whether Mdawg can actually recall every card played. Maybe he can. Maybe he can't. But however a player determines that the remaining cards favor the player and begins to bet more, the casino will not allow for long. Not 1-50 type $100-$5000 spread. Not even a 1-8 or 1-10 spread at higher limits. As soon as a player raises a bet 4-5 times, especially at these limits being talked about, and especially at double deck, a player evaluation would be ordered. This evaluation is done by software in the surveillance room. For a double deck game it can take anywhere from a few minutes to a half hour at most. Longer at shoe games. They really need to see the betting pattern of betting more when the advantage favors the player at least twice. That is all it takes. At which point they would shut the player down and if it is a casino that participates in OSN would probably initiate a new OSN entry.

So the idea that a player could sit at one table playing this $100-$5000 spread for 10 hours is as far fetched as Rob's Newell stories and Alan's 18 yo. in a row. That just isn't going to happen.

Mdawg is now trying to deflect by turning it into a challenge as to whether he has total "rainman" type recall. That doesn't even really matter. Any $100-$5000 spread that computer software evaluation says is spreading WITH the count would be shut down. Doesn't matter if it is rainman, or Joe Schmoe playing hi-lo.

So this new deflection about whether Mdawg has rainman type total recall is a deflection. What wizard called out saying he doesn't believe and was ridiculous is that any strip casino would allow a player to spread like that using ANY counting method, let alone for 10 hours. The over under would be 5 minutes.....literally.

Now one final thing and it is almost irrelevant to this particular discussion, but sort of ties in. The late member that posted on some blackjack forums as Tarzan, invented and played a count based on rainman type total recall. The benefit of such a count would be that it was so strong, so closely identified all the advantageous situations, that a player could use a very small spread of 1-2 or 1-3 and still realize the advantage that most card counters achieve with a much larger spread. So Mdawg claiming rainman like total recall and still claiming to use a 1-50 spread which would be obvious within minutes, is just bizarre. The more the guy says the more far fetched everything becomes.

But let him continue to try to deflect with people offering some sort of meaningless challenge as to whether he is rainman or uses a rainman like total recall. That is NOT what Wizard challenged and called out.

The compulsive liar can't even bring himself to admit that he's the one who pestered the Wizard into posting something about this at WOV.

Instead comes with the 10x multiplier responses that no one is bothering to read.

Come on UNKewLYingJ, you just got a HUGE settlement from a fictional lawsuit. That coupled with all that BANKROLL you have sitting around for your fabricated blackjack play, why not put up a couple hundred K to prove that MDawg can't do what he claims he can do.

Unless of course...the reality is as is well known, that you don't have two nickels to rub together.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

And we need pics that show his face, not just obscured like this one.

https://i.imgur.com/pb4srmsl.jpg
This one shows about as close as he gets to the Strip casinos.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Wizard finally chimed in today expressing his opinion on this claim. And yes, it was at my request. Wizards mission statement when he started WoV was to help players be better gamblers. In recent conversations, with Mike, I pointed out that allowing a player to make these kinds of claims unchallenged (as he has done for much of the Mdawg adventure run), was NOT helping players be better gamblers. Anyone that attempted to duplicate would find themselves backed off / barred and with a new entry in OSN within about 5 minutes.

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Goofball, I wrote the above less than one hour into your deflection this morning. Note the part....Yes it was at my request? so why do you keep saying I refuse to admit something that I admitted within the first few minutes?

Here is the way it went down. Despite what you and others think, I still communicate regularly with Mike. So the discussion was actually more in reference to the EvenBob roulette claims thread. A thread just as ridiculous as your claims. But the difference is that people were allowed to call out EvenBob every step of the way, where as you were protected with Wizard suspending and driving away anyone that called out your BS claims.

So I reminded Mike of his "mission statement" when he started the forum about helping players become better gamblers. He admitted the conflict he feels between "free speech" and allowing people to call out BS. I understand that is a tough balance for him.

Mike then revealed that he doesn't even read most of what you write and told me if I would direct him to something you claimed that I felt was harmfully misleading he would address it. So I did. And he addressed it.

And you can't answer what he addressed so you deflect on another forum by making up trollish nonsense about my heritage.

Long live the Pope of Las Vegas. Oh wait...too late....a sky full of black "dead Pope" smoke. :cool:

Here is the basic synopsis of what has occurred today. Mike Shackleford has finally weighed in that he doesn't believe Mdawgs claim and called it ridiculous.

Unable to muster up a response to Wizards concerns and assessment, Mdawg came here continuing trolling me.

At WoV, Mdawg deflected from Wizards assessment by offering a challenge that he can prove he is rainman. Something that has nothing to do with what Wizard questioned and stated he didn't believe.

So Mdawg is now trying to turn it into a challenge about something totally unrelated from Mikes concerns and in typical Mdawg fashion, he is setting a wager amount for this unrelated challenge at an amount that he knows no one would except.

I personally wouldn't except his rainman challenge for a $10 amount. It is completely irrelevant to his claims of $100-$5000 spread playing double deck blackjack for 10 hours winning 60k.

It is like someone saying they don't believe he is the winning player he says and he responds by saying "I am rich and can prove it". Well THAT isn't what the person didn't believe. :D This is all what is known as a deflect.

Now Mdawg will respond by saying something about me or quoting someone about me. That is more of a deflect or black "dead Pope of Las Vegas" smoke.

the way you can get past this Mdawg is to make a challenge to Wizard about what it is that he doesn't believe and finds ridiculous. Stop deflecting and do so.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Here is the basic synopsis of what has occurred today. Mike Shackleford has finally weighed in that he doesn't believe Mdawgs claim and called it ridiculous.

Unable to muster up a response to Wizards concerns and assessment, Mdawg came here continuing trolling me.

At WoV, Mdawg deflected from Wizards assessment by offering a challenge that he can prove he is rainman. Something that has nothing to do with what Wizard questioned and stated he didn't believe.

So Mdawg is now trying to turn it into a challenge about something totally unrelated from Mikes concerns and in typical Mdawg fashion, he is setting a wager amount for this unrelated challenge at an amount that he knows no one would except.

I personally wouldn't except his rainman challenge for a $10 amount. It is completely irrelevant to his claims of $100-$5000 spread playing double deck blackjack for 10 hours winning 60k.

It is like someone saying they don't believe he is the winning player he says and he responds by saying "I am rich and can prove it". Well THAT isn't what the person didn't believe. :D This is all what is known as a deflect.

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lmao kewl is like chatgpt. Learned the word deflection and now just spits it out on the regular.

Who is Michael Shackleford? What are you even going on about?

Obviously UNKewlJ has been stewing over this since I made a post a month ago about a session that happened over the course of the past year.

He couldn't get me to waste time responding to his crying here, until his sleepless MDawg filled nights compelled him to pester Wizard until he made a post over at WOV about it.

As RobSinger has said, Smart money says you cry yourself to sleep every night. That's called Music To Everyone's Ears! :)

What Mdawg should be doing is thanking me for breathing new life into his incredibly stale "adventure" thread. For the better part of a year now, each time Mdawg bumps that thread with a new ridiculous claim of winning, when no one responds, that bump last for an hour or two, before the great adventure once again drops from view.

I have breathed new life into the stale old gal for at least one day. It is the wrong kind of publicity as people are now laughing at Mdawgs latest "rainman" claim. But "Donald like to say no publicity is bad publicity....so you are welcome Mdawg. :cool:

UNKewlJ couldn't even keep his lies straight which is why he got exposed. So it makes perfect sense that he'd be mind boggled over anyone capable of keeping track of decks of cards.

Now...here come the 10x multiplier response(s).

KewlJ is the Ultimate X of forum posters.

The bigger you score the bigger the multiplier he rewards you with.

Oh and, now that we know that Wizard was acting as your mouthpiece, then this statement

If you were betting up to $5,000, I would expect wins to be paid in yellows, assuming that is as high as the chips went. To pay in ten purples when yellows are in the rack also doesn't seem believable.

let's assume came from you.

But that right there tells me that you don't play much and never play high limit. That sort of thing happens all the time in casinos, where a player doesn't want to receive payout in a certain denomination chip or chips.

Doesn't happen sometimes happens every day.

I don't think I've even been in high limit on a day when that sort of thing doesn't happen. Lots of times in fact a dealer will notice that a player has only certain colors of chips in front of him and will understand what is going on and will pay only in those colors. Other times the dealer will realize that he is running out of those chips and ask the player if it is okay to pay in higher denominations and the player will usually refuse.

Happens every day all the time. Typically of course this is because that player has some sort of superstition against that color of chip, but in my case it was because I wanted to empty the 500s and I knew I would never get there if I got paid in yellows.

As far as the rest of what "you" posted at WOV under the guise of Wizard, I did respond over there. I won't bother much with you here, other than to clown you, because You can't get to the truth with a fraud.

You're just a fraud UNKewlJ and the more you try to jump on your hind poodle legs and protest the more it becomes clear that you don't play much blackjack and whatever you got regarding the topic you culled from books and online. If you actually played at any level beyond the red to green that MaxPen observed you'd know more about how it really works, instead of how you think it should work.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

Oh and, now that we know that Wizard was acting as your mouthpiece, then this statement

If you were betting up to $5,000, I would expect wins to be paid in yellows, assuming that is as high as the chips went. To pay in ten purples when yellows are in the rack also doesn't seem believable.

let's assume came from you.

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Wrong again, goofball. Never discussed or expressed a thought about the yellow chips. Apparently, that was 100% Wizards thought. Maybe you should ask him, instead of just assuming and being wrong over and over again.

Of course the next stage in this drama is UNKewlLyingJ's coming up with some "known Vegas APs" with whom he consulted, who have stated to him that such and such could not have happened. He'll need that to back up his story because red to green isn't going to happen in high limit, and red to green is all he's about.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

You gotta understand, that anything UNKewlJ posts is based on theory - he doesn't actually play much if at all.

He spends all his days and nights thinking up lies to back up his nonsense. We just saw a few weeks of this with the backrooming fable. He doesn't have time for much else other than concocting nonsense and crying in rage over anything that doesn't gibe with his stay at home theory.

MaxPen on the UNKewl one: Compulsive liar is a fair assessment of what he is. If people go back and look at your last few stories they will see a trend in you always changing the story after you get caught lying.

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

There is a clear trend that has developed now. All of KewlJ's implied associates are turning out to be other invented characters in his years of lies. ...RIP

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More black "pope of Las vegas is dead" smoke.

This has nothing to do with me. It has nothing to do with what I play. It has nothing to do with who I network or communicate with.

This is a simple case of "your guy" Michael Shackleford, The Wizard, calling you and your claims out as unbelievable and ridiculous. Apparently you have nothing that you can respond to his criticism with, so you keep trying to deflect to me. :cool:

I commend Wizard for finally calling this out. And it isn't about trying to damage your credibility. You did that a LONG time ago. That is why almost no one responds when you bump your thread with new claims.

I take Mike at his word that he doesn't bother reading most of your bullshit. But he should. You are using his forum, as a platform for your misleading BS, which contradicts the mission statement of his forum. So frankly him calling you out is long over due.

I guess you will continue to try to deflect and make it about me, because you can't answer Wizards challenges and concerns and you won't dare do the attacks on him trying to discredit him as you do with everyone else that dares challenge your claims on the merit.

Exposed, doesn't begin to describe what Michael Shackleford did to you today. He neutered you. You are now a neutered Dawg. :cool:

I actually just had a brief guffaw, even skimming (not reading) what you just wrote.

That two people could look at the same thing and get completely different impressions, is probably why you come up with your nonsense repeated lies thinking that anyone is buying what you have to say.

Over at WOV, people are asking intelligent questions that include UnJon's post about how what I claim to be able to do, he knows multiple people who could do the same. Just because you function at a low level doesn't mean everyone else does too.

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Originally Posted by Gottlob1

The thing about KJ - if you actually read what he writes - is that he constantly echoes the words/phrases and themes of the immediately previous replies by others. As I noted, a while back, he's extremely suggestible. Not someone in control of even his own life. People don't always end up in places like Vegas by their own conscious volition. My guess would be some nut-job living from one day to the next, now on the internet. Certainly of negligible intelligence, etc.

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Originally Posted by redietz

Thank God I'm a sports handicapper, where your record as verified by outside parties is your reputation. And you actually have clients for decades who can verify what you've been doing. I mean, holy fuck.
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Can they, will they?

In many other forms of AP, no official verification and pick tracking is needed if you're not focused on recruiting investors. There are no possible cherry-picking or strange things to quantify. You can't really gain any quality information because someone placed in a few contests. Just having someone claim you made them money isn't really proof of much. That baccarat scammer has people giving testimonials all the time.

I made money AND HERE'S THE MATH to back it up. That's what really matters.

There's no real guesswork when it comes to proven AP methods. Here is the situation, It's a 50% advantage...here's the math, feel free to check it.

According to Redietz, longterm statistics on covering the spread are meaningless. However, he quickly points to his own statistics against the spread as some kind of proof. WTF?