The reality of VCT

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Originally Posted by coach belly

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Originally Posted by MDawg

Even when she lies, she ends up supporting the MDawg reality.

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He claims to have identified you through the comps you received...I.E. the unusual length of your stay.

But he can't reconcile the extreme amount of comps (to which he stipulates) with the relatively ordinary losses that he claims to have been shown.

His story is the one that doesn't add up.

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There's also not likely to be a central database that includes both w/l records and historical data of hotel stays.

Someone well placed enough could get access to both databases, but he'd still probably have to call over to the hotel to get that information.

Just an inside guy in surveillance is probably not going to have hotel data at all.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

And MrV is correct in that Singer is harmless now. BUT he is only harmless because he was completely exposed. I would say the day that happened was the day he climbed into an RV at the dealership. But it happened because he was so desperate to prove his BS to all of us that didn't believe him.

So it is a process. Mdawg is still in the part where he still repeats his bullshit claims. he has started to expose himself, like the day he retracted millions in winnings to "about even", but he is still trying. So he isn't harmless yet. maybe some day, but until that day, when he claims he wins 140k over 3 days and casinos don't care and casino personal are so happy for him they forget to charge the commission at baccarat, or the pit guy was actually worried "for him", or he claims he wins by any number of voodoo concepts, I am going to be there to say. That is bullshit. Save that fiction for that writers forum of people writing stories. Dont bring it to gambling forums with real players and advantage players.

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Singer was always harmless.

Nobody in the history of this forum -- either as VCT or Alanbestbuys, was ever harmed by Singer's "advice", because nobody took him seriously.

Also, if you are dumb enough to take gambling advice from a guy on a forum who is being discredited by everyone in response, then that's your own problem.

You just didn't like Singer, so you were trying to reason that his advice was "dangerous", and thus he should be banned. It was dumb reasoning then, and it still is now.

A host would know.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

That's not your only lie.

More importantly, you take questioning of these lies very personally, and actually get angry at anyone who dares suggest that you aren't being truthful. You get extremely upset by people not believing you.

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=kewlJ]You have made it more than clear that I am not welcome here. And before you say you haven't, you would not be allowing people to say the shit about you that they say about me. And not just say it once or a couple times, but daily....100s of times.

So I bid you farewell.

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Is this like the 10th time you've announced you're leaving? Why are you still here?

Oh, and if you were "not welcome", I would just ban you. This is an unmonetized forum owned solely by me. I don't need to give subtle hints to anyone to leave. But you know that. You always pull this "Oh that must mean I'm not welcome" dramatic nonsense so you can play victim. If you're looking for me to beg you to stay, it's not going to happen. I'm not going to beg anyone to stay. That's not how this place works, whether I like the poster or dislike them.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

One other thing Druff. You look Jewish. :rolleyes: You recently said something about you don't look Jewish, don't have a big nose. I saw a picture of you this week. You looking fucking Jewish. You look exactly what I would expect a guy arguing over $5 with the cashier or check-in person to look like. Just saying. :rolleyes:

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WTF is this?

Why do you have such issues with Jews? When you weren't happy with Alan, you made anti-Semitic remarks against him. You've posted racial slurs against MDawg. Now you're ranting about how I "look Jewish", followed by a snide remarks about Jews in general, when that has absolutely nothing to do with the subjects being discussed. Funny to see the guy always crying about "homophobia" here is actually the biggest bigot on VCT.

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I don't get upset when people don't believe something I say or claim. But admittedly, I do get upset when people lie and just make up shit out of the blue (usually attempting to discredit me, because I have challenged something they said or claims). Imagine that, people get upset when someone lies about them day after day, repeating the same usually pretty absurd lie. :rolleyes:

I don't have a problem with Jews Dan Druff. My current BF is one of you Hebs. Well he was raised Jewish, not sure what he considers himself these days. People bust on you for being Jewish to the point they term Jew a verb. And you not long ago responded that you don't look Jewish. After seeing a recent picture, I just want to tell you, maybe you need a new mirror, cause you look exactly like the guy "jewing" with some cashier over $5 would look. That isn't good or bad, but you look Jewish. get over it.

Cool thing about the circus is the clowns realize they're clowns. You think you're a lion tamer..

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Originally Posted by smurgerburger

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Originally Posted by coach belly

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Originally Posted by MDawg

Even when she lies, she ends up supporting the MDawg reality.

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He claims to have identified you through the comps you received...I.E. the unusual length of your stay.

But he can't reconcile the extreme amount of comps (to which he stipulates) with the relatively ordinary losses that he claims to have been shown.

His story is the one that doesn't add up.

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There's also not likely to be a central database that includes both w/l records and historical data of hotel stays.

Someone well placed enough could get access to both databases, but he'd still probably have to call over to the hotel to get that information.

Just an inside guy in surveillance is probably not going to have hotel data at all.

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Correct, at least at a mega-resort. It's possible at a place, say, Maxim-sized, that there could be overlap, but it would still be a stretch. I don't know enough about current management protocols, but I could probably have a former casino exec run down the likelihood of this kind of leakage at a big place. Obviously, it COULD happen, whether the likelihood is 2% or 5% or whatever.

The question is, in the context of coming back from the dead and broken arms and traveling the nation with hot AP tips, does anyone care enough to check?

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Singer was always harmless.

Nobody in the history of this forum -- either as VCT or Alanbestbuys, was ever harmed by Singer's "advice", because nobody took him seriously.

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Wrong. What was the guys name (or handle) that worked at Walmart, and played Singers stupid progessive system? He was a regular here. His name eludes me at the moment, but it will come to me.

And that is just the one that admitted it. Surely between other members too embarrassed and lurkers, others were hurt.

Slingshot. That was the dude.

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Originally Posted by MisterV

A host would know.

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A host can look up your player account and see the record of trips under that name. (Not the same as an actual hotel record.)

He's not going to have access to some top 10 list of comped stays or whatever KJ is alleging, from which he can work backward to identify a casino patron.

Also... the absurdity of a host not only leaking info about a whale to KJ of all people, but actually handing over printouts to him.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

What was the guys name (or handle) that worked at Walmart, and played Singers stupid progessive system? He was a regular here. His name eludes me at the moment, but it will come to me.

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Lukas (Slingshot) Walton

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Originally Posted by smurgerburger

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Originally Posted by MisterV

A host would know.

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A host can look up your player account and see the record of trips under that name. (Not the same as an actual hotel record.)

He's not going to have access to some top 10 list of comped stays or whatever KJ is alleging, from which he can work backward to identify a casino patron.

Also... the absurdity of a host not only leaking info about a whale to KJ of all people, but actually handing over printouts to him.

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What are you people talking about AND making up? Jesus H Christ. (a Jew BTW).

Top 10 lists? Is that a Letterman thing?

I am not going to go over it again, because I don't want to put anyone in harms way. But as usual, you people are changing what was said and just making up your own narrative.

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Originally Posted by redietz

The question is, in the context of coming back from the dead and broken arms and traveling the nation with hot AP tips, does anyone care enough to check?

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What is this "hot AP tips" thing now?

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

you people are changing what was said and just making up your own narrative.

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Here's what you wrote...what did "you people" make up or change?

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

his claim that year was that he lived in casino suites in Vegas for 8-9 months. So about 7 months in I said to a friend, just the kind of insider you mentioned, see what you can find out about this guy. Well there just aren't that many players living at the casinos in the suites for 7-8 months. They were pretty easily able to come up with some records

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Originally Posted by coach belly

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

you people are changing what was said and just making up your own narrative.

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Here's what you wrote...what did "you people" make up or change?

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

his claim that year was that he lived in casino suites in Vegas for 8-9 months. So about 7 months in I said to a friend, just the kind of insider you mentioned, see what you can find out about this guy. Well there just aren't that many players living at the casinos in the suites for 7-8 months. They were pretty easily able to come up with some records

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Where did I write anything about Hosts? There were no hosts involved.

It went something Like this. I was talking to my friend that works at one of the strip chain casinos. I said there is a guy at one of the forums who claims, he has been comped 7 months now in a suite, while winning millions playing blackjack. (Mdawgs claims were mostly BJ at that time).

My friend responded, that he had read some of it and it didn't happen. He said no casino would comp a player half a year straight that was winning millions of dollars like that guy claimed.

So I said, well see what you can find out. His next response was, "It isn't our property is it"? (meaning the chain he worked for)

I said no it is Cosmo (which at that time was independent). To which he said, Oh I know someone over there, let me see what I can find out.

I thought I might hear back with some verbal information or maybe that he couldn't find anything, but instead next time I saw him, he handed me a one page printout w/l statement.

End of story (or all I am willing to reveal).

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Where did I write anything about Hosts?

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Mr V claimed that a host would know.

smurger replied to him, and debunked that theory.

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Originally Posted by coach belly

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Where did I write anything about Hosts?

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Mr V claimed that a host would know.

smurger replied to him, and debunked that theory.

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More people than a host would know of a guy living in a suite for 7-8 months winning millions of dollars. What are you nuts? No answer needed.

Now I am moving on and would like to know what this "Hot AP tips" are and where can I get a copy? :cool:

I don't have any trouble with the concept of IDing someone who is staying comped in a casino hotel for a very long time. Any number of employees would know who he is by memory. However it would be very foolish to hand over a hard copy of someone's personal gaming records. Who would risk their job over someone else's internet feud?? Not to mention kewl contradicted himself as to what personal info was supposedly in the records.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

More people than a host would know of a guy living in a suite for 7-8 months winning millions of dollars.

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But a host would not share that info with you.

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Originally Posted by smurgerburger

the absurdity of a host not only leaking info about a whale to KJ of all people, but actually handing over printouts to him.

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Originally Posted by coach belly

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But a host would not share that info with you.

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And didn't! Nor did I ever claim one did. You are going in circles, as you always do.