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Getting dissed by a Leftwing/commie/pinko! What an honor!
Some discouraging data out of Asia today.
Several countries, South Korea, Japan, Singapore and another one that I forget, that had initially locked down their countries early and had strong success in flattening the curve, to where the were experiencing almost zero new cases, have all started to experience a dramatic rise in cases almost immediately upon relaxing some of those restrictions. This indicates this virus isn't going away anytime soon. All these shutdowns do is slow the inevitable spread, maybe buy a little time so everyone doesn't get it at once and the hospital systems overrun. I don't think this ends any time soon until a vaccine is available. We may be able to ease some things as we get numbers under control, maybe get some people back to work with protective gear and separation, but any sense of back to Normal, and any kind of large gatherings including sports, concerts, I dare say casinos, seems unlikely. They may try it, but indications are it wont go well.
Second disappointing even scary piece of data is that in South Korea, a significant number of people that had the virus, recovered and were cleared, have now contracted the virus a second time. :( If this is not some sort of abnormality, this may dash hopes about immunity after having had the virus that some of us were hoping for. Such an immunity, even for a short time, would have helped in opening things back up. The one piece of good news from this is that it seems possible a second infection may result in milder symptoms for the patient. But they would still be capable of transmitting to others. Very bad.
On a personal note, I decided to contact my doctor this morning, just to be sure there wasn't anything specific I should be doing to aid my recovery based on my health situation. I was not surprised when my doctor insisted that I be tested immediately, which 45 minutes later, confirmed what I have already known for days that I currently have the virus and am sure my brother did before me. He is doing well, for all intensive purposes, recovered, although I think the criteria is 3 days without any symptoms and this is day 2. I am also doing pretty well, but still have a lingering fever and very slight chest pressure (less than last week) and fatigue.
It was my hope that by weeks end, we both would be back to normal and ready to go when restrictions were lifted, but based on the disappointing info I mentioned earlier, I personally am not optimistic that things get back to normal any time soon, unless we as a country are willing say fuck it, we will accept a fairly high number of deaths.
Did you do the nasal swab? And how bad did it hurt? Good to see you now added to the statistics of another young person who had it and will recover.
Sucks you had to go through it but it should make you feel better going out when stuff opens. It’s almost like being bulletproof with piece of mind.
It was a swab but not nasal, not up my nose. It was a long q-tip-stick to the back of my throat. Then I just had to wait in a little isolated area for results. it took 45 minutes, maybe an hour.
Yeah, but it seems like that "bulletproof" thing may not be.
So by the way, my doctor advises to eat healthy to strengthen immune system, lots of fruits and Veggies, which I do anyway (among my twinkies and ice cream lol). He said specifically load up on Vit C and D and get Vit D from the sun if I am able to do so without going near other people.
In Montana the Governor's shelter at home order will expire this Friday, April 24th. We're one of the luckier regions in the country. Along with the shelter at home order the Governor also ordered that anyone entering the state must do a 14 day quarantine. Nice. Our first coronavirus case was found on Mar 13. It's 37 days later and we have had 433 cases with 11,000 tested. That's an average of 12 new cases per day and there has been very little fluctuation. It's been pretty steady, and even dropping. The last week the average has been just 6 new cases per day. There have been only 55 hospitalizations and only 18 hospitalizations are currently active. There have been just 10 deaths. So Governor Bullock may very well go for phase 1 this Friday. We'll see.
The Chi-Comm's are reporting there are no more active hospitalizations for Coronavirus in Wuhan Province. Hey, Redietz. What did they do? Find a cure? No more active cases in Wuhan. How does that fit in with your projections, Mr. Dietz? Where's the 2nd wave and the 3rd wave and the....never mind.
As they say, you can't cure stupid.
Ohio doesn’t report recovered cases at all. They say there’s no guidelines, definition, requirement to do so so they don’t. Are other states doing that? How does THAT skew the numbers for the Kewlj method of calculations?, Currently at 18% death rate.
https://thepointsguy.com/news/i-test...s-so-now-what/
Another story from a travel points site I use. The founder decided to do the Quest test and it was found he had CV in the past and never knew it.
These are the stories the media (And Red)does NOT want out there. It’s a fact far many more people had it than the official numbers, but that doesn’t help the death toll. While most don’t have an extra $119 to spend, it would be a game changer if the true numbers were known.
Add in the fact that it’s still those who are in the High Risk groups dying, the facts don’t help the liberals cause.
Of course we are now going to hear these tests don’t mean anything and you could still get it again.
Someday there’s going to be a documentary on the massive amount of healthcare fraud going on in during this pandemic in hospitals during this to label anything they can COVID for the funding. Very large federal reimbursements for COVID care/deaths, feds more reliable to pay than normal patrons, and their revenue is otherwise currently way down due to elective surgeries cancelled and people fearful to go to hospitals.
Coronavirus is petering out in Montana.
New cases from March 13 thru March 31 = 204. Avg. = 11.33 new cases per day
New cases from April 1 thru April 7 = 115. Average new cases per day = 16.4
New cases from April 8 thru April 14 = 80. Average new cases per day = 11.4
New cases from April 15 thru April 21 = 39. Average new cases per day = 5.6
New cases from April 22 thru April 30 = 15 Average new cases per day = 1.87
For the last few days we averaged just 1 case per day. And today we had our first day with no new cases reported.
We've had a total of 453 cases.
61 hospitalizations.
16 deaths
397 have recovered.
56 active cases
5 active hospitalizations
14,203 tested. That's 1.56% of the population.
3.2% tested positive. However, for the past week only about 0.5% have tested positive (1 in 200)
16 deaths of 453 cases is 3.53%
16 deaths from a population of 909,000 is a death rate of 0.0000176
We peaked in the first week of April. It's been downhill since then. Business' started opening back up on April 24. We still have a couple of phases to go before fully opened.
Just seen these slot machine dividers online. They emit ultra violet light and ozone that kills coronavirus in the air:
In Montana yesterday was the first day we didn't have at least one new case of coronavirus. We are down to just 24 active cases in a state of 909,000 people.
darkoz' leronlimab thread at WoV is a joke. He calls HCQ a joke and proven no good. That's bullshit. School is still out on HCQ but there are some very good doctors who are reporting good results. I don't know where he gets off thinking a 37% death rate with leronlimab is good results.
I'll tell you what the difference between HCQ and leronlimab is to these whacked out alt-lefties. HCQ has been mentioned by President Trump, leronlimab hasn't. Therefore, "HCQ bad, leronlimab good."
I guess the US has no bureaucracy that keeps track of death rates. Do states? I'd like to see year to year numbers somewhere so I can remove all the conspiracy bs.
And lol since Mickey posted above me, I have to say I am not butthurt at all that he has put me on ignore. It is probably better for him given he asked Dan to ban me. I will not confirm or deny the odor of my vagina.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mickey
I put Rob on ignore months ago and yes on occasion I click to read what he says but it is always something dealing with kewl being up in his head on a level I have not seen in years of being on forums. I mean.. Kewl is way into Rob's head. Somehow Redietz has a whole gang over here after him. I guess this gang was banned by liberals from WOV?.. anyway.. Sorry, I digress. I wish you guys could better entice me to ignore this place.
I got pretty much everything correct back in early March and kept getting it correct. Tough to take.
Here's the origin story: https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...mic-right.html
You keep trying to get people to read your politics. If you wrote about sports and sportsbetting it might be worth reading but screw your political propaganda. You told me Montana would peak in June or July. We''ve had one new case in the past 5 days and active cases are down to 20. The drop can't be blamed on heat because in Montana it's still cold.
No, no you didn’t. But keep pushing your dreams and your handicapping service.
Where exactly did you predict 99% of us had NOTHING to fear from this?
On the same blog you ranted about Kap being blacklisted? You exposed yourself as a liberal hack years ago.
I wish I would have known your agenda earlier. When you tried to trick me that you were not like the other people out there that claim to beat the HA in sports betting. I knew better but at least you played the old game that the others are scammers, but you are legit.
Should have thought about not being a piece of shit like Feist, Root, Steiner, Laskey, etc before trying to be legit on the Coronavirus.
Mick, you have been around longer than me. But I ask have you ever met anyone who can beat that 10% HA (or 5%) House Edge on Sports bets? And if so, did they they ever talk about it like RED? Didn’t think so.
I know it’s been most successful gamblers weakness.
You are two months into two years, at minimum.
And when you find someone in sports handicapping who says I ever fudged a number, said I could do something I could not, or who says I'm not well ahead lifetime, you let me know. Call around. I hear Mr. Walters is out. You could start with him.
I never said you fudged a number. And sorry, I’m not calling a convict to verify your claims. But I’m open to you posting his contact information.
Come back when I’m wrong about this being only a risk to the elderly and high risk.
2 years? Why not 5 or 10 years?
Wishing people dead isn’t a good look RED. But at least you moved on from 18 months.
WoV is calling. They need a fear monger, other than Broke Billy.
And I forgot the broke Dark Oz.
And if you are so sure you and I are at risk, I’m willing to let you buy an Insurance policy on my life. You pay, we spilt it 50/50 with my beneficiary choices. Definitely a better bet than your sports bets.
PM, as you always do when you are ready to invest. Trust me, I’m insurable.
If I remember correctly, monet, those PMs were mainly about me telling you that you knew some things I wasn't sure anybody else on these boards knew -- not about drawing details or machines, but about how things are run, especially at the locals' casinos in LV. And steak recommendations -- we both liked the same steak houses, pretty much.
So there it is, out in the open. Monet knows some specific things about how stuff gets done that I wouldn't put out there publicly because I'm posting under my real name, and I only have so many legs. And Circus-Circus steakhouse has always been solid.
This is a forum of gamblers and I've quit paying much attention to covid. I just go about life to life stuff although i do get into it here over covid. I do have to wonder about what "risk" is. While I don't think I am particularly at risk, it is quite possible I could die from covid. The death rate is 5x-10x+ the death rate of the flu. It also has weird things happen. They're figuring out how to treat these other side illnesses - which is why I'm fine avoiding the world and the virus for now. I am not in a risk group, but I live with people who are. I could become asymptomatic and pass it to others. So I take the "scared" route. I'm not particularly scared of getting it, but I'm not in any rush either. If an effective vaccine comes out then wonderful. Still have to navigate the issue of catching it and then passing it on to my parents. They're not in the best or worst shape, but they get by in their isolated world. I don't want to be the one to give it to them.
My point is "risk" is relative. From a risk takers perspective, it isn't somthing a healthy person under 50 should worry about, but then few people ever said it was. I still bet peak would happen in Montana in coming months but I'd need to double-check numbers. Too many know-it-alls doubt this thing, risk level or not.
Let's get a little perspective because I know people think they are going to live forever.
When I was 9 years old I thought I would never die or living to 100 years old was very easy.
It took about 10 years or so after that naive thinking to understand how fragile life really is and these days, if I make it past 50 I will be happy.
So my point is, lets look at past centuries and life expectancy.
2000 Years ago in Egypt...
An article on Egyptian pyramid builders in the November 2001 issue of "National Geographic" noted,
Despite the availability of medical care the workers' lives were short.
On average a man lived 40 to 45 years, a woman 30 to 35.
For 1500 years the data isn't conclusive but it is deduced that life expectancy was Very Short at about 35 years old on average.
This was due to Unhygienic living conditions and little access to effective medical care meant life expectancy was likely limited to about 35 years of age.
Other infectious diseases like cholera, tuberculosis, and smallpox would go on to limit longevity, but none on a scale quite as damaging of the Bubonic Plague in the 14th century.
The Black Plague moved through Asia and Europe, and wiped out as much as a third of Europe’s population, temporarily shifting life expectancy downward.
THE CHINESE VIRUS isn't even in the same Universe as the BLACK DEATH!!
From the 1500s onward, till around the year 1800, life expectancy throughout Europe hovered between 30 and 40 years of age.
Are you seeing a Trend Here???
Life expectancy for 1800 years was about 35 years!!
From the 1800s to Today!
Improved health care, sanitation, immunizations, access to clean running water, and better nutrition are all credited with the massive increase.
However, the real culprit for the boom in life expectancy was the discovery of OIL!!
You see the population rise exponentially after that!
Today most Industrialized Countries boast life expectancy figures of more than 75 years, according to comparisons compiled by the Central Intelligence Agency.
However, the point I am trying to make is that you can't beat Death and for the most part, life expectancy has been around 35 years for a very long time.
Try to enjoy the ride while you can as Death is coming for us all very, very soon!
Death is as Natural as being Born.
There’s a need to shovel a lot of global warming today in the northeast.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...nd-new-england
You are trying to come across as a normal caring human being (hopefully you are) who just so happens still lives at home with his parents. However, you are possibly sizing up all your parent's assets and how their will is made out are you not? Just another typical liberal fuck hoping to get a free ride by bringing home that virus. Please be patient you will eventually get your inheritance, no need to push it dirt bag.
lol I live with my parents? No my parents are isolated so I take care of them at times for their shopping needs and go visit them at times. Good try. They really have no real in person human contact outside of neighbors and my sister. My parent's dont have enough money that I care about and I never cared about money to begin with. I only have my own business because i can't suffer working for lesser men. I'd rather kill myself than have a retard like you tell me what to do. I was raised lower middle-class and neither of my parents went to college. Thats also whats so great about this country, if you apply yourself there are tons of opportunity. The fact that a retard like you succeeded in business is testimony to the greatness of this country. Do you not agree?
I think you're pretty much the sick selfish one if you read all this into what I said. Inheritence? lol. okey dokey. Funny how you mind goes there. These things are quite telling.
As far as actually caring, I care about the generations ahead of me, those who don't have any voice in being fuckd out of the environment I was able to enjoy. People like you just shrug if off and give the finger to your progeny. Whatever. we're different. I'm not normal, but I think whom the bigger piece of shit here is fairly obvious.
edit - Oh I see via your highlighting. My gf has bad asthma dumbfuck. I said my parents were isolated, meaning they live with themselves.
Dang BoSox, you hit quite the nerve (not that he’ll admit it) nicely done! He must have sparked up a fatty down in the basement last night and had a moment of clarity.
“I am not in a risk group, but I live with people who are.
Maybe him and his GF live with his parents.
lol I was curious if that was going to be a thing by some unimaginative person. Ok, yea, I live with my parents. You guys are on top of things like always. Geniuses, the lot of you.
Interesting perspectives here. When my girlfriend's mother was badly injured in a fall and hospitalized, we moved in with her father after he was diagnosed with dementia. We stayed in that home for more than a year.
Based on assumptions presented above, that would have made us economically failed "libtards" milking the previous generation. Interesting assumptions.
Now if this were 30 years ago, the assumptions would instead be that we were good children and civically responsible people taking care of the previous generation.
I find it unsurprising that those who don't give care don't immediately see other people as caregivers. Also explains the lack of discussion regarding how increased hospitalizations and deaths affect health system caregivers. I haven't even seen this mentioned by the alt-right folks here.
I wonder how many of the people saying they aren't at risk have ever done any lengthy caregiving of the previous generation. Boz, you ever a committed caregiver for months at a time? DannyJ, how about you? Mickey, you ever take care of somebody as a live-in caregiver? Or across-town caregiver?
You throw out lines like these and want us to believe you are NOT a hard-core liberal. This is right out of the liberal’s playbook and it has nothing to do with reality
Check the environment out today and compare it to the 60s and 70s. It’s not even close; all our rivers are cleaner, regulations on all industries is about 100 fold tighter on emmissions, smog in big cites has decreased, etc.
Look, us conservatives want environmental regulations too, but it’s got to be reasonable. It shouldn’t be politically motivated, which is how the Democrats view it.
This is one of the many issues liberals use to control the masses. And it appears to have worked with you, since I can tell you’re very gullible. They claim our environment is getting worse, industry is polluting more, global warming, blah blah blah. And you and your ilk buy it without checking the facts.
This type of deceptive message gets the Libs elected, and then they want to control every aspect of our lives.
So you say you have a friend that’s actually to the left of you? That’s a little hard to believe. I didn’t know those people exist. I sure wouldn’t wanna meet him.
You put a ton of words in my mouth. The world is not sustainable. Trump has rolled back any of the stuff he can that was put in place by Obama. He has done anything he can to reverse environmental regulations. Don't tell me how conservatives care. Tell it to one your moron echo-chamber loving assholes. I'm not being controlled at all. Only difference is I live a simple life. It works out anyway, because I haven't been into buying stuff in for years. Whether broke or not. This country is great because I have anything I reasonably want. When I go play poker I fully expect my swings to be greater than the value of my car. I'm probably playing biggest game in the room, but my car is also nothing but dependable and cheap.
My point is I don't need anything. Not sure how I am being "controlled". The fact that you've been told this and believe it would lend to the theory you're likely more controlled by someone's nonsense.
Deny science but most everyone agrees except a few outlier assholes and even they are starting to shut the fuck up when the climate issues become blatantly more obvious. so fuck you.
There are different types of pollution. Yes, environmental regulations have cleaned up quite a bit and free trade has moved a lot of the pollution across the world. The CO2 greenhouse issue was never addressed in the 60s and 70s and is *the* problem serious sincere people talk about.
Wow. I hope that was a bad joke. My girlfriend had her own home (California -- worth quite a bit). I had my own home (worth not much -- Tennessee and all that). We left them vacant while we lived there. We weren't paid anything, obviously, although technically I think California does reimburse family caregivers some if you apply.
I'm hoping that was a real bad joke.
So BoSox, how about you? You ever do some long-term caregiving?
Yeah I guess. If that's the assumption you want to make.
No, not months at a time. We were down in So Cal early January for a couple weeks helping with my mother in-law who has dementia. That probably doesn't qualify though, but I do have great respect for caregivers. Live in or otherwise.Quote:
I wonder how many of the people saying they aren't at risk have ever done any lengthy caregiving of the previous generation. Boz, you ever a committed caregiver for months at a time? DannyJ, how about you? Mickey, you ever take care of somebody as a live-in caregiver? Or across-town caregiver?
I don't care if he lives with his parents. I just thought his reactions were funny. I don't live with my parents. They live with themselves. Ok, yea, I live with my parents.
Redietz, the position of a conservative on this issue would not have been any different now than 30 years ago. Conservative, in general, feel the family unit should care for the elderly and their kids. This has never changed.
So what you did caring for your gf’s mother would’ve been seen as a very positive from a conservative viewpoint. You didn’t look for government help. You saw this as your responsibility and helped her. This is how conservatives think.
On the other hand, a liberal position would be looking to the government to help out your girlfriend’s parents.
You might be more of a conservative than you think.
And yes, me and my brothers and sisters have taken care of my parents in their old age and never put them in a nursing home. They both passed away in our houses. This is the same way my parents took care of their parents and never put them in a nursing home.
My family doesn’t believe in putting old people in government warehouse waiting to die.
Well excuseeeeeeeeeeeeee me, what the hell do I know. I just thought you like messing with people considering that you came in fifth or something in what is called the "Wise Guy Contest". Who would have thought that someone who may be a comedian who tells mob jokes was such an upstanding citizen.
Dietz, it sounds like you are trying to take credit for something that was just more than likely done through the process of elimination. When your girlfriend's family had to face that problem and it was I'm sure thoroughly discussed amongst all 12 siblings seven boys and five girls (good as any guess) and the question came up who would it hurt the least? Everyone pointed in your girlfriend's direction, it's not like she met anyone with real prospects in life, now did she?
accountinquestion, after you made your post accusing Trump of rolling back all the environmental regulations Obama put in place, I spent some time looking into it. The New York Times (not a conservative publication) lists all the regulations Trump has rolled back. You couldn't make this list up if you tried.
During Obama's administration, they passed 4 new environmental regulations on National Parks to reduce pollution. I guess liberals think National Parks is where most of the pollution is occurring. One of these regulations regulated how many plastic water bottles could be sold in a National Park or something like that.
All I can figure is Obama hired way too many environmental bureaucrats so they just went crazy passing a lot of new meaningless regulations. And they didn't just stop with trying to regulate businesses out of business. They were also trying to regulate our National Parks out of business.
Obama and his cronies also spent time regulating light bulbs and dish washers. No, I'm not making this up. We all know how light bulbs and dish washers are the biggest threat to our kids enjoying a clean environment in their future. At least that's what accountinquestion thinks.
Trump also stopped funding leftist groups in Third World Country that were hiding under environmental names. One group Trump stopped funding was called "Green Climate Fund". This was a United Nations program to help poorer countries reduce carbon emissions. Yeah, right. Only a liberal would believe that.
accountinquestion, I expect you haven't looked into any of this and you just believe any propaganda you've been fed by the left. Like i said, you sound like a fairly guillible person.
Thanks for opening my eyes to all the good things Trump is doing, and how is trying to get our country back to being Great Again! Obama had really tried to screw it up.
Btw, did you like the way Obama went around the world apologizing for America after he was elected? That was sad!
I have faith in the NYT and apparently you do also, given that you reference an article. It is odd you didn't post a link.
Trump is a man of 0 principles except rolling back anything Obama did. It is my personal belief, but this occurred when Trump was invited to that dinner and Obama made fun of him in public. Little handed man couldn't take it, and used his world-class conmanship to become President. Then after that, he tried to erase anything Obama ever did.
This pretty much sums up Trump.
It is funny how hard you try convincing people who or what I am. Yea, I'm the gullible one. I worship the 2 bit conman. You win again,
I truly hope Trump is able to roll back all the stupid regulations Obama and his cronies piled on our country.
And I’m glad Trump has stopped funding all the leftist organizations the Obama administration loved to fund around the world.
And when Trump gets done rolling back Obama’s regulations, I hope he tries to roll back some of Slick Willy’s regulations.
This is all Democrats like to do when they get into the office...pass more and more regulations until they’re able to regulate American business into bankruptcy and make us reliant on China.
Many people are tied of it. That’s what gave Trump a platform, and why many blue color union workers are backing Trump. They want to make America Great Again! They see how Obama and the liberal Dems have destroyed America and sent our jobs overseas.
Well most of your post is just dumb shit. Were you in pepsquad? If not, you would have been a smashing hit.
I do agree about Democrats being pro free-trade. I had not really paid much attention to it previously, but I have to side with Trump against free trade but for completely different reasons. It just bugs me that tariffs are a select tax and most of his dumbass droolers don't get that. They're just fucking cheerleading. It is like listening to Rob Singer tell you how to be +EV at Videopoker.
They like to sell their kids for food. Yanno, weather changes moods.
Spring is here again. Got my reproductive glands
They're the ones
Who likes all Trumps pretty songs
And they like to sing along
And they like to shoot his gun
But they know not what it means
Knows not what it means
And I say they're the ones
Who likes all Trumps pretty songs
And they like to sing along
And they like to shoot his gun
But they knows not what it means
Knows not what it means
And I say yeah
We can have some more
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Accountinquestion, do you understand that regulations have been piled onto businesses since the 30s. I mean the first thing every new Democrat administration does is just piles on more regulations. It’s never enough for liberals. And Obama took it to a whole new level.
When I read one of Obama’s environment regulations regulates plastic water bottles in national parks, even you’ve got to admit that’s going to far. You’d think the federal government would have better things to do then regulate plastic water bottles in National Parks. And I get it’s not Obama doing it personally. But it’s his organization he put in place that made it happen. Everything I said in my previous post is correct.
No matter how much business is regulated, a new Democrat administration will just want to pile on more regulations. It’s in the liberal’s DNA, and they use this as propaganda to get elected. People like you believe it. You believe we need more regulations to protect the environment for future generations.
I’ve listened to the liberal playbook so much, I can always quote it verbatim.
2 things. Of course new regulations have been created since the 30s. Some other bozo (was it Danny instead?) was basically bragging how many regulations our country had created for the environment and therefore conservatives are not against the environment.
At least you don't try that line of bs.
Plastic just keeps piling up and up. In our seafood, everywhere. Tiny little pieces. No clue about parks or why water bottles disturb you so much.
You believing you know the "liberal playbook". L-O-L Given that any idea that is not "conservative" is generally considered liberal, you're full of shit. The is more variation in liberals than conservatives. It is nothing more than the fantasies coming from a not intelligent man that "understands them liberals". fuck off dumbass.
Dr. Deborah Birx believes coronavirus mortality rates are inflated as much as 25%:
https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrV...jwPXa1E3afHKU-
A couple things: Okay, I get it, plastic keeps piling up and up. That’s a problem. So why not do something about it if you and your buddy Obama feels so strongly about it?
How does regulating plastics bottles in National Parks address this issue?
I’m not “disturbed” by plastic bottles. I’m disturbed by how stupid the libs are at controlling how many plastic bottles are out there. Do you really think regulating plastic bottles in National Parks will make a dent in the situation?
To me this points out how stupid Obama and anybody who supported him are. The reason Obama’s cronies put so many regulations on National Park is because the Federal Government owns National Parks. This made it easier for them to implement all these stupid regulations, which were meaningless in addessing any real pollution problems. They were basically regulating themselves.
Just think what an Obama administration would do if they could own more of America. They would regulate it (us) to death. They’d probably regulate how much toilet paper we can use since toilet paper comes from trees that are cut down. We know how much that hurts global warning.
So accountinquestion, now that you know wiping your butt with toilet paper is leading to global warming and destroying the environment for future generations are you going to quite using toilet paper?
Accountin, does daddy always tell you that you must be home by 10 PM as you live under his roof and under his rules? Otherwise, you can forget your next weeks allowance.
As much as it disturbs the alt-right folks, and I have stated this before, I was on board with about half of Trump's policies pre-corona. Having followed the guy my entire life, however, I can not see how anyone would vote for him for president. That aside, I was on board with most of the immigration perspective (I like Australia's model), but not the building of a wall, which is one of those silly inefficient symbols account was talking about. I was on board with political-correctness-has-become-overblown, on board with cutting UN, NATO funding, on board with anti-China trade (I'm from the Pat Buchanan school of international trade), anti-NAFTA, and so on, as I'm mega-pro-union and grew up in the land of the Molly Maguires. But the president has been a self-absorbed, self-promoting semi-autistic whack job since his 30's, so why would he change? He's been involved in two lawsuits a week against "the little guy" (mostly) for more than 30 years. So he's no champion of the working man.
My mother, aunt, and uncle all had MS. They all spent the last 12-15 years of their lives as quadriplegics, and they all stayed home until the final few months. And they were functioning members of their households, still making decisions for the households, until they died. That's one reason I just do not understand this denigration of the elderly that evidently is part and parcel of the alt-right movement on this site. "They're over 65, let 'em die." Yeah, that would go over well with conservatives 30 years ago.
https://dnyuz.com/2020/05/08/mcdonal...nmark-pity-us/
Everyone should be able to make a living wage.
My main concern with redietz is that his statements are outright lies.
I never read one post where someone (conservative or liberal) said: “They’re over 65, let ‘em die.”
What everybody said is those at risk (elderly and people with compromised systems) should stay locked down. Those that are not at risk should be able to carry on.
This is the problem with liberals, they make things up to fit their narrative. When welfare was reduced, all liberals came out of the woodwork, claiming anybody who wanted to reduce welfare benefits just wanted people to die on the streets starving. As we all know, that never happened.
Liberals are like drama queens. They always hype up the worst case scenario. That’s why over time they have lost credibility, except with their hard-core supporters.
Well said Bob. All of us have said the elderly should stay in and their families should not visit. Same as the other high risk categories.
What RED and others won’t admit is that 99%+ of us have next to no risk of dying from this. As the numbers are barring that out, they are now moving onto “ other permanent health issues” for us. They have to keep the hoax going.
You know this talk about denigration of the elderly, let 'em die and all that, I don't actually think red believes that is a conservative construct. But, if you flip that concept over as it relates to socialized medicine, then it becomes very possible that some elderly will be passed over for that operation late in life. Bureaucrats (death panels) making those decisions based on age, not always in the best interest of the elderly.
Redietz managed to get a half dozen strawman arguments into just a couple of paragraphs. What gets me about alt-lefy redietz is here he is acting like he gives a damn about the elderly. If he got his way with single payer which would cause health care to be rationed many of the elderly would go untreated and left to die. Its already happening in Europe. That is, except for the rich who can afford to come to U.S. for care. Single payer will cause a massive doctor shortage and health care will certainly be rationed.
It doesn't matter because Redietz is too busy slurping noodles with his slant eyed girlfriend.
lol. One clear difference between me and yall is the fact you all love being in an echo chamber.
I'd sit here and argue, but you guys can't handle that. It is just dumbshit from here on out.
Ultimately you're all grown men needing to hear other grown men back themselves up.
I've seen Mickey claim he doesn't but LMAO at that assertion.
Sorry I smoke pot. Guess you guys are such nancys you don't even drink beer. I was just pointing out how all your talk about freedom etc is so vapid. I actually have to risk being put in a cage at gunpoint and my money stolen in big swaths of the US for relatively benign behavior. The same places you nancys go talk about having so much freedom in. What a fucking joke.
All you nancy types like big strong men. Thats why you're in love with Trump. You idolize him. His "strength" justifies your reverence in yer own heads. (even though he ran from that woman reporter just the other dad - LOL) Pathetic. Pathetic!
I wanted to call you guys fags because it fits but I'm too PC and don't want to offend Kewl.
Maybe Redietz and darkoz will turn this place away from being straight circle-jerk central. I have better things to do than get into politics with morons.
So you can not directly call someone a Faggot, lol out of respect for kewlJ but you can indirectly do it as you have posted the example above?
You have no problem using the word Moron directly???
Perhaps Redietz will invite us all over to slurp some noodles with his slant eyed girlfriend.
Heck, I can bring my slant eyed wife along since she loves three minute noodles.
Sadly this ugly situation is going to last more maybe more than everyone expects :(
Accountinquestion, here’s what you’re missing. We are a nation of laws. This makes sure our country does not devolve into anarchy, where everybody does whatever they want to.
There are many laws I don’t agree with but I still abide by them. One of those laws is the speed limit in some parts of our country where there are very few people on our interstates. When I’m in Germany and drive on their highways, I think my record speed is close to 120. I like to drive fast. There is no speed limit in Germany, so I’m not breaking any laws.
If I did this in United States, I’d get pulled over and probably hauled into jail. So I don’t do it. I drive the speed limit or stay at a speed where I don’t think I’ll get a ticket.
I guess the take away lesson for you is if you know the law and you don’t want to go to jail, don’t break it.
And you’re right, each state will have slightly different laws so it’s important to know them. Since you’re a pot smoker, I’m sure you know which states it’s legal and which states it’s against the law. Just don’t do it in the states where it’s against the law and you should be ok.
Btw, it seems like smoking pot is a big part of your life because you mention it about every other post. I’m thinking you might have a drug problem and might need to go into a rehab clinic. Just looking out for a fellow VCT member.
Not my words but made sense to me...
Quarantine is when you restrict the sick.
TYRANNY is when you restrict the healthy
In Montana, for the past couple weeks we had been averaging 1 positive for every 430 coronavirus tests. Thats less than a quarter percent. But for the past few days we have a string of 2,857 tests without a single positive.
Redietz, Montana peaked in early April averaging 16 new cases per day. Since reopening on April 24, we have been averaging just 1.17 new cases per day. And that is with the number of tests per day doubling since mid April.
Your prediction of the peak being in June or July is not going to happen.
It sounds like Montana is one of the better places to be with relatively few cases. Not all that surprising with limited population and things seemingly more open and spread out compared to a place like NYC where people live on top of each other.
Nevada also has relatively low numbers. Last time I looked about 7000 cases and 300 some deaths. 300 deaths....hell that is just a couple good mass shootings. (sorry bad joke).
Here my fear is that as soon as they open up casinos and put people back together cases explode. Almost has to doesn't it? And it isn't even about getting the virus. I have had the virus and maybe have some protection. What if I am in a car accident or involved in a shooting or anything medical emergency requiring medical attention and the hospitals are all overwhelmed with Covid cases. All the ICU beds are full. The nurses and doctors all overworked working 80-100 hours a week and them getting sick on top of everything. That is the concern.
And while I don't know Montana's hospital ICU bed situation, I would imagine it isn't very much and wouldn't take all that much for it to become overwhelmed. So what if you need medical attention? God forbid have another heart issue or complication?
I am not making a case for shutting down for 2 years, because I don't want that. I don't know what the answer is because the thing isn't going away. And I hope I am wrong about that, but it isnt the way these viruses work. They go away when they go away, not when people will them to go away.