You keep assuming facts not in evidence.
Why are you bothering with all this conjecture?
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This claim is interesting to say the least since MDawg made it himself. Coach is right in that we don’t know how much he was paid in BC or how big the bill was. But one should use some common sense in making assumptions on how much he received as payment.
Attorney fees are never cheap with even a quick phone call billed in 15 or 30 minute increments based off $300 an hour rates or more. Mr V can attest to industry averages but these are my experiences with a basic business attorney. So let’s say this customer had a record low bill of $300, which is on the lowest end of any bill.
So a customer owes a lawyer $300, in this case we are expected to believe the client sent a check for $290 and offered the attorney the remaining $10 in this new cyber currency Bitcoin. Seems hard to believe any attorney would accept this but if they did, they are now sitting on over 6 Million from this simple $10 transaction.
If the attorney accepted the entire $300 in BC, which seems more logical if this person was willing to take BC as all since $300 really isn’t much to him, it is now worth $180 Million.
Again this is all speculation, but the reason we are speculating is because MDawg himself claimed to have been paid for his work in Bitcoin in 2010. And he claims to have held it and added more over the years. That is undeniable, even by Coach, so the only question is how much he received.
LOL.
A mere bagatelle, Boz, a mere bagatelle. MDawg may have dropped the 180 million during the Chinese stock market crash of 2015. Or maybe a gin rummy game gone sideways against the ghost of Stu Ungar.
I'm sure coach will have a very, very, very reasonable explanation. Just remind coach, every time he posts, that you'd really like an explanation for the misplaced 180 million (minimum). I mean, let's face it, if it was any kind of an attorney's bill, it was at least 10 times that.
But Mdawg may have simply misspoken. He may have meant buttcoin. He was paid in buttcoin. And coach belly, being unfamiliar with bittcoin but very familiar with buttcoin, simply got them confused, too.
Note: I am unfamiliar with the top urban dictionary definition of buttcoin and have always used the second definition, which is simply anything that can be carried in your "fleshy purse" in prison, hidden, and used for exchange. You know, pills, bags of meth, a cigarette or two (some people, I'm told, manage an entire pack).
And then the ghost of Stu lost it all on sports bets!
Again speculation, but you are right about nobody getting away from a lawyer for $300, which was my point. My last bill to sell my business was over 20k and the buyer paid his attorney a decent amount too. Anyways since we are speculating I’m going to say a $3000 bill paid in Bitcoin would be worth more than 1.8 Billion at 60,000, but as BC is now around 63k we can add another 90 million today to his original payment acceptance.
It would also put MDawg with this BC alone just outside the Forbes 400 but certainly in the Top 1000 richest individuals in America. Of course this doesn’t account for the Bitcoin he has purchased over the years, nor the thousands of shares of Tesla and Amazon he owns that are up 3000-7000% since he claims to have bought them.
So it comes down to if we have a Sam Walton or Vince McMahon among us? Maybe we should all be more appreciative of the gift we have been given to be in the company of such a better human being than ourselves.
After all, how many of the richest men in America would gladly let someone verify who they are for a shot at $2,000?
And to think people are giving DarkOz shit for taking a shot at this.
I'm not willing to go back and look for when he first mentioned getting BTC 10 years ago.
Let's go with what we know for sure, we know he said 2011. BTC was as low as $1 and as high as $32.
MDAWG "I still receive bitcoin weekly from clients, but whereas back then I would receive up to 10 coins at a time, nowadays it's more like 1 coin or a fraction of coin.
I have most of them in an overseas blockchain, but started receiving in 2018 into coinbase btc , ethereum , litecoin , bitcoin cash (which I received a gang of free, in 2018 when BTC forked, was crazy I didn't even realize I had all that bitcoin cash until I read about and logged into the blockchain).
When the runup to 19K happened in November/December 2018, I considered selling them all or some, but I'd already been hodling for a good 7 years and the overseas blockchain didn't have any way for U.S. residents to sell, and coinbase wasn't allowing you to sell too many BTC at a time anyway, so anyway - I still have all of them and keep getting more weekly"
Key Parts:
1) "Clients" meaning MORE THAN ONE
2) "up to 10 at a time."
3) Nowadays it's more like ONE or a fraction
4)" I still receive bitcoin weekly from clients" so anyway - I still have all of them and keep getting more weekly"
Let all that sink in and then give us a LOGICAL estimate of how many Bitcoins you think he owns since he has been getting ONE or a fraction weekly.
One must estimate how much a client would be paying a high-priced lawyer 10 years ago($320 or less seems really really low) leading the last few years.
Wait, he was a highly successful lawyer ten or more years ago?
Somehow I'd gotten the idea he's more of a rookie than that.
The probabilities of him being a lawyer are Slim and None. And Slim left the building.
Hmmm ... the plot sickens ...
Note the author and the date of the law school mid term exam; coincidence?
https://freezingblue.com/flashcards/...ethics-midterm
What does that have to do with you estimating how much BTC he holds? I haven't made any outrageous claims about BTC, or anything really for that matter. When I do make any outrageous claims about myself, feel free to call me on it.
You don't want to answer because you know his BTC story is so fucking ridiculous that it's no longer just a fairy tale, it's also a blatant lie.
If you claim a low amount then that means you dont believe his BS and what he has been leading us to believe and if you claim a high amount you know that sounds fucking ridiculous as well.
REREAD THIS COMPLETE BULLSHIT.
"I still receive bitcoin weekly from clients, but whereas back then I would receive up to 10 coins at a time, nowadays it's more like 1 coin or a fraction of coin.
I have most of them in an overseas blockchain, but started receiving in 2018 into coinbase btc , ethereum , litecoin , bitcoin cash (which I received a gang of free, in 2018 when BTC forked, was crazy I didn't even realize I had all that bitcoin cash until I read about and logged into the blockchain).
When the runup to 19K happened in November/December 2018, I considered selling them all or some, but I'd already been hodling for a good 7 years and the overseas blockchain didn't have any way for U.S. residents to sell, and coinbase wasn't allowing you to sell too many BTC at a time anyway, so anyway - I still have all of them and keep getting more weekly"
In his defense, coach is from central NJ, near NYC, like me.
They grew em "different" back there in the garden state back in the day.
Air pollution (ewww ... Newark near the Pulaski skyway), water pollution, mafia run garbage service, overpopulation: not an excuse, an explanation.
My uncle was a cop in NJ
Many years ago they raided an illegal gambling operation: decades before AC opened up.
They seized as evidence a mechanical, very "old school" one armed bandit that took nickels.
"Somehow" it wound up in his finished basement.
While the adults boozed it up I plugged my paper route money into the slot machine: fun times.
It is hilarious how you demand other people jump through hoops before you answer a question. It is obvious you do that because you lack the capacity to ever be honest about anything. It has been clearly established that you are a liar who is completely obsessed with spending all day on the internet disagreeing with everyone.
https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post123698
When I asked you a question about providing evidence to this claim this, you insisted I answer your question first. Which I did. Then you insisted I jump through more hoops. Which established that you have zero evidence to support the statement and that it was a lie and you are a liar.
Now I would bet that whatever it is that compels you to disagree about everything will force you to reply to this with even further disagreement.
Yeah...I think you lied about that, you lying sack of shit.
But I haven't lied about anything.
I already advised you to create an account on the WOV forum,
and contact me there.
Many of the active members here have accounts on WOV,
so I reject the notion that it's "jumping through hoops".
But you're running out of time, because the longer you stall
the harder the links will be to find, as the math guys continue to post
on other subjects, so their explanations of Singer & MDawg's claims
get buried further into their posting history.
So hurry up, or you'll have to continue your search without my help.
I went back through all of your posts in this thread for the last week.
Here are the questions that you asked...I answered them both.
I couldn't find any other questions.
Now, are these really the questions that you called me here to answer?
here is more information if you need it.
Let's go with what we know for sure, we know he said 2011. BTC was as low as $1 and as high as $32.
MDAWG "I still receive bitcoin weekly from clients, but whereas back then I would receive up to 10 coins at a time, nowadays it's more like 1 coin or a fraction of coin.
I have most of them in an overseas blockchain, but started receiving in 2018 into coinbase btc , ethereum , litecoin , bitcoin cash (which I received a gang of free, in 2018 when BTC forked, was crazy I didn't even realize I had all that bitcoin cash until I read about and logged into the blockchain).
When the runup to 19K happened in November/December 2018, I considered selling them all or some, but I'd already been hodling for a good 7 years and the overseas blockchain didn't have any way for U.S. residents to sell, and coinbase wasn't allowing you to sell too many BTC at a time anyway, so anyway - I still have all of them and keep getting more weekly"
Key Parts:
1) "Clients" meaning MORE THAN ONE
2) "up to 10 at a time."
3) Nowadays it's more like ONE or a fraction
4)" I still receive bitcoin weekly from clients" so anyway - I still have all of them and keep getting more weekly"
Let all that sink in and then give us a LOGICAL estimate of how many Bitcoins you think he owns since he has been getting ONE or a fraction weekly.
One must estimate how much a client would be paying a high-priced lawyer 10 years ago($320 or less seems really really low) leading the last few years.[/QUOTE]
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We all know cockroachbelly won’t answer that. He will dodge as always. I’ve heard from
Multiple that this is all he does for the last 10 years. It’s like the loser that stalked my ex gf from his basement until we found out who he was then Pfff stalking stopped. This guy talks a great game from behind screens and agitates everyone. Axel made a great post and I’m sure belly will try to deflect and say something like I know you are but what am I. Which is essentiall his answer to anything he is ever asked. I’m sure he is a pussy in real life and looks for power and control through a forum. His wife prolly uses a strap on.
What is wrong with you? Is English your second language?
You can't put a question mark at the end of a demand and call it a question.
You see Wolfie, I can deal with the insults , the nerds, and the queers. I don't want money, and I don't want medals. What I do want is for you in that faggoty fedora and with your hayseed mouth to extend me some fucking courtesy. You gotta ask me nicely.
Coach, you like to ask questions. Have you asked MDawg what he did with the 180 million he had in bitcoin? If not, why not? You'd be helping us all out, as you and MDawg are tight and we know he'd tell you.
Note: I am a patient man. The coach belly fan club told me that all I have to do as my initiation is respond the same way to every belly post for the next week. I am so looking forward to both learning what MDawg did with the 180 million and joining the coach belly fan club.
Coach, have you asked MDawg what he did with the 180 million from bitcoin? That sounds like a lot of bitcoin to just up and disappear.
By the way, the fan club says this post doesn't count towards my membership because you didn't type more than seven words. Help me out so I can get my coach belly bumper sticker, okay? Limber up those fingers and get to typing.
The Ditz talks about his first time...
ditz: My first time was in an outhouse in Pottsville, PA.
tewlj: Wasn't it a little cramped?
ditz: Not after she kicked the goat out.
tewj: OK...Tell us all about it.
ditz: I never really expected to make it with Mom,
but after she showed all the other guys in town a good time
I figured "What the hell"
To be continued....
Coach, did you ask MDawg about the 180 million in bitcoin? What did he say? Is it a secret? Won't he tell you? Aren't the two of you friends? Why wouldn't he tell you?
tewlj : But your Mom. Isn't that a bit odd?
ditz: I didn't think so. Looks don't mean that much to me in a woman.
To be continued...
Coach, did you ever find out what happened to MDawg's 180 million in bitcoin? I figure you know how to ask all the right questions, so you'd be the first to know. Did he lose it? Spend it? Give it to charity?
I know you love questions. I'll try to do my best to ask good ones regarding the 180 million in missing MDawg bitcoin.
What happened to Mdawg's 180 million in bitcoin, coach? Have you helped count it? Did he donate it to charity? Was it stolen in a Russian hack? So many questions. That's what gets you into the coach belly fan club. Questions, just like the coach. It's tough to misplace 180 million, so how does one do that? I bet it was the maid. Does MDawg have maids? How many? Are they honest?
Whats a guy worth 180 million doing day trading for peanuts?
Coach, what did he do with 180 million? Have you asked him yet? Do you not want to ask him what happened to the 180 million? Do you want to know why he's betting just 1K a hand when he had 180 million in bitcoin? What would you do with 180 million in bitcoin? Would you bet just 1K a hand? Or would you bet more if you had 180 million in bitcoin? Would you bet at all? Did MDawg explain to you where the 180 million went?
What I'm yammering about is that when I wrote,
You came back with
Which is much to say as you were against the younger than ten years set.
And now you're flip flopping to stealing my line and advocating what you were against! ;)
But what do ya expect from someone with a wet brain from too much drinking? I doubt you remember what happened yesterday let alone last year. You're clearly not all there.
This is where you belong, pulling your low end scams. Silver Sevens is actually uptown compared to the joints you and UNKewlJ frequent. Anything's better than lying in bed all day nursing a hangover after fixing a broken down laptop to make a C note. :D
https://i.imgur.com/9CYcxlvl.jpg
Hey Axel I caught you stumbling drunk the other night. So it was Halloween and you were having a few extra?
Nope. It was night. And he was having his usual.
https://i.imgur.com/YTgl5XSl.jpg
I don't know where you think you've seen/caught me, but it certainly wasn't in Vegas or California, so unless you were out in the boonies in Washington state. I'm Not sure if Dan could pinpoint my IP location during or around that time or not, but he is welcome to confirm I was In rural washing. I have some Amazon deliveries, CC statements, and multiple reports to prove it.
Guess what DouchDawg did today at WoV. He Pmed a member (mental) asking him to read Mdawgs thread. After mental took a look, he said "I don't find this discussion illuminating. I don't know why you PMed me to look at it. I am putting the block back on this thread".
Mdawg is now PMing and begging people to read his thread. THIS has to be the most pathetic thing I have ever seen on these forums. Outweighs anything Singer ever did. THIS guy is just pathetic. He really is.
Not the first time either he has been caught working people behind the scenes. Dan Druff caught him doing so here.
Literally begging people to read his thread. :D:D:D
I think it’s very obvious he doesn’t have many (any?) friends in the real world.
But, and I know this is shocking to hear from me, this is one case where I don’t blame the guy. Someone in the financial situation he claims to be in needs to be very cautious in dealing with anyone in person. Which is why I give him a pass on not meeting individual or trying to “prove” anything. And I’m sure he has to fight his instincts over his ego.
That said, why he is even here posting the stuff he does is beyond me. It makes zero sense in any normal way other than crying for attention.
And as you have said in the past, I have no doubt you, I or many others on here could post similar pictures to everything he has posted over the years if we felt there was a benefit to it. Obviously unless someone wants to pay for it, there is no benefit.
Mental had asked me couple weeks ago about some math related stuff. I made a post that should have been of interest to him. Nothing remarkable.
What's also not remarkable is that UNKewlJ makes a 10x multiplier response about the unremarkable matter. Sure, Boz is a "bored out of his mind" retiree which explains his devotion to MDawg, but the reason UNKewlJ dwells at my feet is because he has nothing else going on but tunnel vision.
Hey dawg...I have a PERSONAL question.
You like to flaunt your seeming wealth; what year, make and model vehicle have you purchased or leased for your primary means of transportation?
If I wanted people to know how to find me easier, I'd disclose what I drive most often. :D
Serious question - are the tunnels big enough to park a compact inside? Mid-size?
Further evidence that he's homeless is how he's oblivious to current events, movies, television. All he knows is online and specifically, only in these gambling forums where he's viewed as much as an irritant as his own family who booted him out of the household (which led to his homelessness).
They do give these bums Obama phones so he has internet access, but no free cable or movie tickets.
If he would just give me the green light, I know exactly from where he logs on to the internet usually, and it is not from the Panorama Towers he would like us to think he lives at. It's not a great neighborhood, and I probably need to investigate further to see if there is a tunnel entrance nearby.
This clown says "proof of this or proof of that" with absolutely no proof of anything.
No surprise really as he also thinks pictures of cash, chip and watches is somehow proof that he wins. :cool:
MrV, do they not teach what proof really is in law school? That it isn't just what a person wants something to be?
Well maybe not that online law school. :rolleyes:
Generally speaking, in-court evidence should be authenticated with a proper foundation laid.
Keep in mind that just because something is admitted as evidence that does not mean it has been verified as being true; rather it is something a litigant claims is relevant to the matter, and it can be attacked, questioned, flensed and deboned.
As an example, were I representing someone in a divorce and we wanted to show that the spouse kept a lot of cash around, we could introduce a photo (such as the one below) of a pile of money and if my client testifies that yes, she saw the money, then says when and where she saw it and that she took the picture...it could be admitted as evidence, but NOT deemed proven, merely alleged to be true and subject to attack / cross -examination.
Oh, dawg...I have no interest in finding you via searching the casino parking lots looking for your car: I think you give yourself too much credit; I simply wonder whether a man of your claimed wealth opts for a high end vehicle with snob appeal or a more common means of conveyance.
Of course, if in fact you are driving a very rare car such as a Koenigsegg Jesko or a Pagani Huayra then I could understand your reluctance to respond.
Heck, just the make and model would do just fine.
I didn't mean you V. But there are others hungry to catch the scent of MDawg.
Let's just say that I drive a variety of vehicles ranging from the latest models to classics. Obviously the classics aren't taken out of the garages very often.
We put a car or two in the Vegas Concours d'Elegance a year ago, not this year.
You talked about your Volvo being a sort of money pit or at least requiring a lot of your attention as you do the work yourself. Well, with classic cars you have to (or at least I do) put all original parts into them which the complete restoration process may take years. Been there, and I have at least one more classic car I need to have worked on because it sat idle in the garage too long.
I have not done any of the restoration work myself on my classics, although I did have an Italian car in the past (not a Ferrari) I worked on myself. That was a lot of work, that was ongoing.
I've had Volvos in the past where I changed the brake pads and rotors myself, but I haven't done any of that sort of thing in some years. These days the most I might do myself is change the engine or cabin air filters.
V, speaking of auto repair, if there is anything left that you allow others to do, have you noticed the post Covid phenomenon not only of prices skyrocketing, but that the disparity between having the dealer do the work and non-dealer is closing. Used to be having a non-dealer do work on your car always cost so much less.
I think part of it is that genuine factory parts are getting extremely expensive and the dealers aren't letting the non-dealers obtain the parts at much of a discount.
On one of my newer cars the dealer wants over three grand to change brake pads and rotors and a non-dealer wants almost about the same. I looked into it and the genuine factory parts alone cost about $2700.
Tell me about it...
I bought a used, gated Ferrari 456 GT hoping to "pick up my game" as a DIY repairman but quickly discovered I was outmatched as the car had electrical problems that seemed insoluble.
I shipped it to a specialist in Colorado, he did the work, returned it, and new problems arose; frustrated I sold it and due to appreciation I recoverd most of the purchase and repair expenses from the sale.
The older Volvos I prefer are "a labor of love" for me; they aren't "money pits" per se, they are more of "time pits" as it takes more time to keep then sorted and running propoerly than a newer car, such as the Mazda CX-5 Carbon Edition Turbo we bought new two years ago for my wife.
Good luck with your automobile collection.
Sometimes yes one may obtain the part directly from the manufacturer with the car's make marked right on the box, or OEM from a distributor of the manufacturer of the part. Typically yes the OEM part is going to be identical and cost less.
But with some parts it's just not possible to find the OEM part and the only choice if you want the real thing is from the dealer (or manufacturer).
And in other cases such as for classics sometimes the original part isn't even available at all from the manufacturer and you must hunt for it.
And I'm not necessarily buying these parts myself I have friends or extended family who own repair or restoration shops, and even with their clout and connections still sometimes the only choice is direct from the dealer or manufacturer. Just depends on the make and age of the car.
Italians have this idea that their way is the best way. Which is why you find cars sometimes that have long bars instead of suspension springs and other oddities.
With Ferraris and Lamborghinis, it used to be that you'd almost never find one with over 30K miles. Partly because those cars just can't handle high miles will start falling apart and also because of how much that 30K service cost.
As you found out yourself, it's the maintenance that kills people on exotics, not necessarily the purchase price. (At least - it used to be that way. Nowadays with some exotics both the purchase price and maintenance may be quite high.)
Yeah, I'd hoped to do the maintenance myself, and I did what I could but the electrical issues baffled me.
As for sourcing parts, I only bought a couple parts from the local Ferrari dealer, Ron Tonkin: most were sourced from a specialty distributor, Ricambi.
It was a beautiful car and fun to drive, when it was up to it, but I'm glad I sold it; it was an itch I just had to scratch.
I am thinking of picking up either a used Maserati Granturismo or Aston Martin DB-9, but prudence stops me from pullng the trigger: hell, my Volvo Turbos look good, they handle fine and are reasonably quick: who needs more, really?
I always wanted a DB-5 but by the time I thought about getting one the prices had gone through the roof. I'd still bite but thinking about how I could've gotten one for about 20X less than what they go for today, sours the idea for me.
Many Aston Martin models are basically Jaguars, including with some of the same electrical problems.