Since we're posting informative shit which I love to do I'm gonna try and bond with you fellas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPSUtIpj4mk
Since we're posting informative shit which I love to do I'm gonna try and bond with you fellas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPSUtIpj4mk
Been getting plenty of rain here in Vegas this last week.
Temperatures have been Cold-As-Fuck this winter in the US.
And the Left Liberal Media put out a report that the Ozone Layer is repairing itself and will be fully repaired in the next 40 years.
So, Fuck You and all your Apocalyptic Bullshit.
Jesus will return to the Earth and set up his Kingdom before Climate Change does anything to the Human Race.
The Bible tells me so.
Of course it also says that the world will be destroyed by fire this time around as God's Rainbow Promise is to never flood it again.
Honestly, burning down the Earth and restarting can't come soon enough in my opinion.
How can you be Cold-As-Fuck when you carry around 600 pounds of lard on your fat ass body???Quote:
Originally Posted by monet
Yes. The question is whether or not the hyperthermal is caused by man,partially caused by man, or not caused by man ? Concluding that it is caused by man when it has been demonstrated historically that hyperthermals have occurred before man existed is foolish. IMHO I don't think we are scientifically advanced enough to answer this question.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
Yes,it's always good to conflate Bigfoot fiction with the study of core samples under well-established geological methodology (to determine hyperthermal time frames) when you're trying to make a point.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
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Originally Posted by monet
Cartesian Meditations: An Introduction to Phenomenology.
https://anagram-solver.net/Honestly,....?partial=true
Not bad, Monet. As much as our organs are of mind (of a form and purpose), then our brains are of body (of substance). So, no escaping ourselves by science, or otherwise.
In general, the Silurian model is naturally suited to thus connecting the big crunches/bangs. By which we know that that there is a definite end/start to some form of intelligent life. And, the only truly alien contact to transcend time and space. By which the message to ourselves would be as unique as the process by which it's sent, ie, nothing to do with exploitation of the universe. I mean, not even those fellows believe in their own hypothesis.
Anyway, it's always a pleasure to watch a bunch of stone-cold fools debate such things, say, on a gambling, or gematria, forum. Had to laugh at the bunch, at the latter, try to relate the new junk about a two-dimensional universe to this one. The consensus in the physics community is that even the such "singularity" was/will be four-dimensional, all along.
This logic seems very wonky to me. The question has been settled for decades now but you want to think it is "foolish" to think it is quite reasonable and studied ?Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayYes. The question is whether or not the hyperthermal is caused by man,partially caused by man, or not caused by man ? Concluding that it is caused by man when it has been demonstrated historically that hyperthermals have occurred before man existed is foolish. IMHO I don't think we are scientifically advanced enough to answer this question.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
Fires occurred before man but that doesn't mean we can't conclude the source of fires. One could debate the issue with you if they're some sort of intellectual rebel but really?
Anyway, I was going to point out that I approached this from the perspective of a gambler which we both seem to be. This has been predicted for some time now. So let me get this right - All these scientists managed to get lucky for their grant money by predicting this shit was going to occur but when it is happening we're all going to suggest it would be foolish to think they are correct. Would you agree with this? Do the odds of them getting it right like that play any part in your reasoning?
Funny, I don't recall the ozone issue being seen as an apocalyptic event.Quote:
Originally Posted by monet
lmao God's Rainbow Promise.. you can't make this shit up... because someone else already has...
I think we might agree on burning down the Earth but not sure what you mean by restarting.
The interesting thing is that with nukes you have this concept of MAD to prevent them from being used. Very strong incentive. However if your country is already destroyed because 90% of your population has died of starvation and everyone left is currently starving. MAD don't work no mo'.
Pretty easy to very very seriously threaten the countries with food. Lots of endgame scenarios that are interesting IMO.
I've already stated my position on this which is that there is too much complexity to make a definitive statement about the cause of the current hyperthermal. The people making these conclusions should then also explain how the other hyperthermals previous to this one occurred in the absence of man. I now defer to Upton Sinclair in regards to grant money: “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionThis logic seems very wonky to me. The question has been settled for decades now but you want to think it is "foolish" to think it is quite reasonable and studied ?Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayYes. The question is whether or not the hyperthermal is caused by man,partially caused by man, or not caused by man ? Concluding that it is caused by man when it has been demonstrated historically that hyperthermals have occurred before man existed is foolish. IMHO I don't think we are scientifically advanced enough to answer this question.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
Fires occurred before man but that doesn't mean we can't conclude the source of fires. One could debate the issue with you if they're some sort of intellectual rebel but really?
Anyway, I was going to point out that I approached this from the perspective of a gambler which we both seem to be. This has been predicted for some time now. So let me get this right - All these scientists managed to get lucky for their grant money by predicting this shit was going to occur but when it is happening we're all going to suggest it would be foolish to think they are correct. Would you agree with this? Do the odds of them getting it right like that play any part in your reasoning?
I'm not debating.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGrimReaper
I'm spittin' facts!
So the smartest guys in your HS who decided to dedicate themselves to knowledge instead of careers based on making money and we're supposed to believe they're driven by grant money.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayI've already stated my position on this which is that there is too much complexity to make a definitive statement about the cause of the current hyperthermal. The people making these conclusions should then also explain how the other hyperthermals previous to this one occurred in the absence of man. I now defer to Upton Sinclair in regards to grant money: “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionThis logic seems very wonky to me. The question has been settled for decades now but you want to think it is "foolish" to think it is quite reasonable and studied ?Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
Fires occurred before man but that doesn't mean we can't conclude the source of fires. One could debate the issue with you if they're some sort of intellectual rebel but really?
Anyway, I was going to point out that I approached this from the perspective of a gambler which we both seem to be. This has been predicted for some time now. So let me get this right - All these scientists managed to get lucky for their grant money by predicting this shit was going to occur but when it is happening we're all going to suggest it would be foolish to think they are correct. Would you agree with this? Do the odds of them getting it right like that play any part in your reasoning?
A grifter with no jobs skills except pandering on a Youtube for money get far more credibility amongst many of a certain type.
I am fairly confident that physics PhDs can accurately model the interactions of the the radiation with greenhouse gasses. I'm fairly confident believing they can do this.
However, these same scientists can't model how the environment will respond with any significant accuracy.
I could understand your position if you were stating latter and not former but that isn't what is going on.
The question is not whether man caused global warming. The only question to be decided is when and how fast is the shit going to smack humanity in the face.
Why do climate scientists always present the narrative that the current hyperthermal is unique in the earth's history ? Comparisons are always drawn with respect to pre-industrialized and post-industrialized man and never further back than that. I've already posted about Nobel prize winning physicists who disagree that the cause is man-made, including videos of presentations showing their models. You ignore or forget about arguments made in posts that are more than a few weeks old. Grants are extremely competitive - fuck yes I believe there is heavy bias.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionSo the smartest guys in your HS who decided to dedicate themselves to knowledge instead of careers based on making money and we're supposed to believe they're driven by grant money.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayI've already stated my position on this which is that there is too much complexity to make a definitive statement about the cause of the current hyperthermal. The people making these conclusions should then also explain how the other hyperthermals previous to this one occurred in the absence of man. I now defer to Upton Sinclair in regards to grant money: “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
A grifter with no jobs skills except pandering on a Youtube for money get far more credibility amongst many of a certain type.
I am fairly confident that physics PhDs can accurately model the interactions of the the radiation with greenhouse gasses. I'm fairly confident believing they can do this.
However, these same scientists can't model how the environment will respond with any significant accuracy.
I could understand your position if you were stating latter and not former but that isn't what is going on.
The question is not whether man caused global warming. The only question to be decided is when and how fast is the shit going to smack humanity in the face.
I suspect your biases have led you to false memories regarding the narrative about "hyperthermals". (don't recall seeing that word after following this shit for decades...) Regardless, there really isn't a "narrative" regarding this. That is an attempt by political types to frame this as a political issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
The original "global warming" concern came about because some guys figured out that due to physics, heat is trapped in the atmosphere. And this effect would continue to grow as more earth warming gasses are released from fossil fuels. From that it can be easily extrapolated that we're in for some serious problems but as we both know, modeling the actual direct effects is not really a doable problem. Climate scientists can come up with estimates but it will always be estimates until it has occurred. Estimates allow others to claim they're wrong. (Which is the exact reason I don't bother to post studies on here..)
So given the above, where does a narrative come into play? It doesn't. No one cares about prior "hyperthermals". "Hyperthermals" are for people looking for counter-evidence and not the truth of this situation. The fact that there have been other periods of heating over the millions of years the Earth existed doesn't really speak to the whys or even relatively basic science portion that has been laid out.
Yes, I'm the one with the heavy bias. That bias is towards the consensus amongst a very large portion of actual scientists. (guys who pursue truth/knowledge over $$$) These are the same types of guys who have made a lot of the advancements that have given us civilization. I'd be amazed if you could find 1 subject more well studied than Earth warming. Maybe cancer?
I don't recall specifically about what you're referring to with the nobel scientist. I usually listen to the stuff until they start layering on the political nonsense. Regardless, 1 or 2 nobel prize winners isn't going to do enough to change my mind at this point. If we took a survey of nobel prize winning scientists, I wonder how many would say it isn't manmade and how any would?
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Originally Posted by monet
Bingen Stadt station.
https://anagram-solver.net/I%27m%20n...0?partial=true
More folly of the Devil, who surely would claim such. On the other hand,Quote:
The station is the beginning and end of the Rheinhessen Railway to/from Worms.
---> Brushing The Mountain Top.Quote:
I'm not debating. I'm spittin' out the truth!
https://anagram-solver.net/I%27m%20n...0?partial=true
The difference is plain.
In other news: Old, but humbled, Tablepooey is shining on AiQ some more. Similarly, more of the Devil's work.
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Ivar Giaever - Nobel Winning Physicist and Climate Pseudoscientist
We often see scientists from non-climate fields who believe they have sufficient expertise to understand climate science despite having done minimal research on the subject; William Happer, Fritz Vahrenholt, and Bob Carter, for example. As he admits in his own words, Nobel Prize winning physicist Ivar Giaever fits this mould perfectly:
"I am not really terribly interested in global warming. Like most physicists I don't think much about it. But in 2008 I was in a panel here about global warming and I had to learn something about it. And I spent a day or so - half a day maybe on Google, and I was horrified by what I learned. And I'm going to try to explain to you why that was the case."
https://skepticalscience.com/ivar-gi...scientist.html
Leaked climate scientist e-mails obtained from hackers.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionI suspect your biases have led you to false memories regarding the narrative about "hyperthermals". (don't recall seeing that word after following this shit for decades...) Regardless, there really isn't a "narrative" regarding this. That is an attempt by political types to frame this as a political issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
The original "global warming" concern came about because some guys figured out that due to physics, heat is trapped in the atmosphere. And this effect would continue to grow as more earth warming gasses are released from fossil fuels. From that it can be easily extrapolated that we're in for some serious problems but as we both know, modeling the actual direct effects is not really a doable problem. Climate scientists can come up with estimates but it will always be estimates until it has occurred. Estimates allow others to claim they're wrong. (Which is the exact reason I don't bother to post studies on here..)
So given the above, where does a narrative come into play? It doesn't. No one cares about prior "hyperthermals". "Hyperthermals" are for people looking for counter-evidence and not the truth of this situation. The fact that there have been other periods of heating over the millions of years the Earth existed doesn't really speak to the whys or even relatively basic science portion that has been laid out.
Yes, I'm the one with the heavy bias. That bias is towards the consensus amongst a very large portion of actual scientists. (guys who pursue truth/knowledge over $$$) These are the same types of guys who have made a lot of the advancements that have given us civilization. I'd be amazed if you could find 1 subject more well studied than Earth warming. Maybe cancer?
I don't recall specifically about what you're referring to with the nobel scientist. I usually listen to the stuff until they start layering on the political nonsense. Regardless, 1 or 2 nobel prize winners isn't going to do enough to change my mind at this point. If we took a survey of nobel prize winning scientists, I wonder how many would say it isn't manmade and how any would?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesta...h=5c7327b527ba
Why not link the actual emails? It is a very common tactic when trying to deny this unfortunate predicament- quote a few sentences and leave all context behind.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayLeaked climate scientist e-mails obtained from hackers.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionI suspect your biases have led you to false memories regarding the narrative about "hyperthermals". (don't recall seeing that word after following this shit for decades...) Regardless, there really isn't a "narrative" regarding this. That is an attempt by political types to frame this as a political issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
The original "global warming" concern came about because some guys figured out that due to physics, heat is trapped in the atmosphere. And this effect would continue to grow as more earth warming gasses are released from fossil fuels. From that it can be easily extrapolated that we're in for some serious problems but as we both know, modeling the actual direct effects is not really a doable problem. Climate scientists can come up with estimates but it will always be estimates until it has occurred. Estimates allow others to claim they're wrong. (Which is the exact reason I don't bother to post studies on here..)
So given the above, where does a narrative come into play? It doesn't. No one cares about prior "hyperthermals". "Hyperthermals" are for people looking for counter-evidence and not the truth of this situation. The fact that there have been other periods of heating over the millions of years the Earth existed doesn't really speak to the whys or even relatively basic science portion that has been laid out.
Yes, I'm the one with the heavy bias. That bias is towards the consensus amongst a very large portion of actual scientists. (guys who pursue truth/knowledge over $$$) These are the same types of guys who have made a lot of the advancements that have given us civilization. I'd be amazed if you could find 1 subject more well studied than Earth warming. Maybe cancer?
I don't recall specifically about what you're referring to with the nobel scientist. I usually listen to the stuff until they start layering on the political nonsense. Regardless, 1 or 2 nobel prize winners isn't going to do enough to change my mind at this point. If we took a survey of nobel prize winning scientists, I wonder how many would say it isn't manmade and how any would?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesta...h=5c7327b527ba
Secondly, Forbes is a paid placement rag. While some of their stuff is ok - you should be super skeptical about these guys. If you're a paid agenda pusher then Forbes is a go to place.
Thirdly, these quotes are of a few sentences out of 5000 emails. And contrary to a few studies being pushed by scientists you really should look at the overall picture. Your approach is to look backwards at a few relatively minor points. Yes, I'm sure there are plenty of studies with results that were purposefully meant to be misleading. I have 0 doubt but I also have enough sense to ignore obscure minorities. These people exist on pretty much any subject but sure whatever floats your boat.
It really appears to me that most of these guys denying this shit have this "I'm a smart independent thinker" which is exactly what these nonsense peddlers rely on. "Hey, we're not like those people, we're INDEPENDENT. I'm smart because I question EVERYTHING!". "They're just after that grant money!" They don't consider these influencers after just after clout and clicks to be paid.
Just last night I was talking to some guy. We're both doomers but he believes in this 12k heating cycle and claims it is far far worse than climate change. (lmao then how did the ecosystem bounce back???) Nice guy, well meaning, but simple as fuck. Same shit though, he gets his stuff from a youtube channel named skeptical observer. A bread and butter tactic of the guy behind skeptical observer is to hold up a paper and point out 1 sentence and remove all context. It becomes far easier to prove a bullshit point when you have 1000s of sentences to take out of context.
Bill the pile of shit Yung aka The Grim Faggot with some more quips.Quote:
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/to...ff/ar-AA16rRvy
It is already here and will only get worse. Just wait until water supplies of large municipalities run dry.
People going to sell houses that have a fraction of their previous value to move to houses that have went up dramatically?
Ahh well at least California fixed for now. Probably have a ton of infrastructure and property damage but whose counting?
Mitigation of future effects and current effects is going to be a real whopper. Pretty sure many who believe in Earth warming don't quite grasp how fucked we are.
Ohh throw up dust in the air! Innovation. Ok... so screw over quasi-renewable solar power.
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Interesting link, Bill. For those who aren't intellectual cowards, give it a sincere read.
Actually, I noticed this. It is even better. Tableplay, please pick your climate denial excuse and see what they say. Then tell me how their response is bullshit. Good luck !
oops forgot the 2nd link. https://skepticalscience.com/argument.php
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Originally Posted by accountinquestionQuote:
Originally Posted by TheGrimReaper
Interesting link, Bill. For those who aren't intellectual cowards, give it a sincere read.
Actually, I noticed this. It is even better. Tableplay, please pick your climate denial excuse and see what they say. Then tell me how their response is bullshit. Good luck !
Looking at all the pseudonymous user names here I see only cowards.
It's actually much worse within context. I cannot post it here because it is copyrighted. However, if you want to read the original e-mails and see for yourself, go to page 9 of the book Climategate: The Crutape Letters which clearly shows how bad things are (just click "look inside" for a free look). The IPCC has major influence over climate policy so it follows that the manipulation has huge influence over policy.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
https://www.amazon.com/Climategate-C.../dp/1450512437
Well the book is now 14 years old. Just pointing that out as there has been much ongoing research since then.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayIt's actually much worse within context. I cannot post it here because it is copyrighted. However, if you want to read the original e-mails and see for yourself, go to page 9 of the book Climategate: The Crutape Letters which clearly shows how bad things are (just click "look inside" for a free look). The IPCC has major influence over climate policy so it follows that the manipulation has huge influence over policy.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
https://www.amazon.com/Climategate-C.../dp/1450512437
The emails themselves should not be copyrighted. They shouldn't be copyrightable period if they are actual emails from third parties. (?) Whatever though - I believe you that there were studies that didn't support the premise and these guys wanted to bury them. Is that correct?
I don't have a hard time believing it is worse with context but that does little to outweigh all the subsequent research that has occurred in past 14 years. Especially after empirical observations have become more and more apparent. I'm fairly confident that there is little data coming out that these biased scientists have a need to hide at this stage. Extremely unfortunate but also true.
Regardless nice having a conversation without any insults from either side.
Who are you bro? You never even contribute to this forum. All it is is the occasional one-liner that *ONLY* you find funny.Quote:
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Originally Posted by accountinquestionQuote:
Originally Posted by TheGrimReaper
Interesting link, Bill. For those who aren't intellectual cowards, give it a sincere read.
Actually, I noticed this. It is even better. Tableplay, please pick your climate denial excuse and see what they say. Then tell me how their response is bullshit. Good luck !
Looking at all the pseudonymous user names here I see only cowards.
Kewl is right. Too many losers on this forum.
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The Song Remains The Same (Dawson's Creek episode).
https://anagram-solver.net/%20Lookin...0?partial=true
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Originally Posted by tableplay
List of people with the last name Frobisher.
https://anagram-solver.net/Bill%20th...0?partial=true
Holy crap! That's pretty darn close. Just a bit more "massaging". I knew that there was something up, earlier, when Tablepooey wrote the one previous line of his,
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Leaked climate scientist e-mails obtained from hackers.
Icelandic Settlement Disaster Memorial.
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Boy, you guys are pegging me in all around, in a circle like that of the Zodiac. Ha.Quote:
The Icelandic Settlement Disaster Memorial, also known as "In the Presence of a Soul" is a memorial at the former railway station in the village of Kinmount, Ontario. Affixed to the concrete base of the sculpture are plaques that describe the disaster in three languages. The memorial, placed by the Ontario Heritage Foundation and Agency of the Government of Ontario, was dedicated in July 2000.
The memorial documents a history of hardship experienced by a group of 352 Icelanders who arrived as emigrants in the fall of 1874, at the village of Kinmount. Delayed travel plans that soaked up their financial resources, and led to a late arrival in the fall of the year, poor living conditions, and lack of work due to an economic downturn in Ontario, resulted in the deaths of "thirty children...and upwards to ten grown-ups." The monument commemorates the experience of this group of pioneers.
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Do you guys think Monet is more or less adapted for the future? He has all that excess fat he can rely on but then that means he'll also have a very hard time dealing with the heat.
Please just click on the Amazon link and read it for yourself. I am not going to risk posting the screenshots of the pages as they say "copyrighted material". I don't know where the original e-mails are at this point - but they are shown starting on page 9 of this book, which can be seen for free on the Amazon link.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionWell the book is now 14 years old. Just pointing that out as there has been much ongoing research since then.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayIt's actually much worse within context. I cannot post it here because it is copyrighted. However, if you want to read the original e-mails and see for yourself, go to page 9 of the book Climategate: The Crutape Letters which clearly shows how bad things are (just click "look inside" for a free look). The IPCC has major influence over climate policy so it follows that the manipulation has huge influence over policy.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
https://www.amazon.com/Climategate-C.../dp/1450512437
The emails themselves should not be copyrighted. They shouldn't be copyrightable period if they are actual emails from third parties. (?) Whatever though - I believe you that there were studies that didn't support the premise and these guys wanted to bury them. Is that correct?
I don't have a hard time believing it is worse with context but that does little to outweigh all the subsequent research that has occurred in past 14 years. Especially after empirical observations have become more and more apparent. I'm fairly confident that there is little data coming out that these biased scientists have a need to hide at this stage. Extremely unfortunate but also true.
Regardless nice having a conversation without any insults from either side.
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Originally Posted by accountinquestionWho are you bro? You never even contribute to this forum. All it is is the occasional one-liner that *ONLY* you find funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by smurgerburgerQuote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
Looking at all the pseudonymous user names here I see only cowards.
Kewl is right. Too many losers on this forum.
My name is Solonius Matthew Urgerburger, S.M. Urgerburger for short, smurgerburger for shorter.
Can this be verified online with published results of at least one tournament cash?Quote:
Originally Posted by smurgerburgerQuote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionWho are you bro? You never even contribute to this forum. All it is is the occasional one-liner that *ONLY* you find funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by smurgerburger
Kewl is right. Too many losers on this forum.
My name is Solonius Matthew Urgerburger, S.M. Urgerburger for short, smurgerburger for shorter.
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Originally Posted by accountinquestionCan this be verified online with published results of at least one tournament cash?Quote:
Originally Posted by smurgerburgerQuote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
My name is Solonius Matthew Urgerburger, S.M. Urgerburger for short, smurgerburger for shorter.
I sent a dossier that included various irreplaceable newspaper clippings documenting this very thing to Andrew G. but he stopped responding to my DMs a few months ago.
Well it is a shame he has disappeared. I know he loved Australia so I'd guess he visited down under and just hasn't had the time to deal with it. I'll wait for him to return.Quote:
Originally Posted by smurgerburgerQuote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionCan this be verified online with published results of at least one tournament cash?Quote:
Originally Posted by smurgerburger
I sent a dossier that included various irreplaceable newspaper clippings documenting this very thing to Andrew G. but he stopped responding to my DMs a few months ago.
Andrew is one of the better practicing lawyers on this site. Unlike MisterV is quite keen in many areas of law. At one point I heard he is also an accomplished dice influencer.
One last thing on this topic. I am not even sure what climategate suggests. Assume these guys truly believe Earth warming is a real thing. If they do, they will feel extraordinarily motivated to move mankind into a sustainable future. If they are decent people - what else would they do?Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayPlease just click on the Amazon link and read it for yourself. I am not going to risk posting the screenshots of the pages as they say "copyrighted material". I don't know where the original e-mails are at this point - but they are shown starting on page 9 of this book, which can be seen for free on the Amazon link.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionWell the book is now 14 years old. Just pointing that out as there has been much ongoing research since then.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayIt's actually much worse within context. I cannot post it here because it is copyrighted. However, if you want to read the original e-mails and see for yourself, go to page 9 of the book Climategate: The Crutape Letters which clearly shows how bad things are (just click "look inside" for a free look). The IPCC has major influence over climate policy so it follows that the manipulation has huge influence over policy.
https://www.amazon.com/Climategate-C.../dp/1450512437
The emails themselves should not be copyrighted. They shouldn't be copyrightable period if they are actual emails from third parties. (?) Whatever though - I believe you that there were studies that didn't support the premise and these guys wanted to bury them. Is that correct?
I don't have a hard time believing it is worse with context but that does little to outweigh all the subsequent research that has occurred in past 14 years. Especially after empirical observations have become more and more apparent. I'm fairly confident that there is little data coming out that these biased scientists have a need to hide at this stage. Extremely unfortunate but also true.
Regardless nice having a conversation without any insults from either side.
So you can say this and that about them but it really doesn't suggest much to me. I'm not sure how you see it. I see it as sadly expected. Internal equation -> (Trying you hardest to save the world for your progeny) vs (be dishonest about some research)? What is the rightous and ethical thing to do? I know what I would have done.
Really kinda a bummer thinking about it through their eyes. The power they wielded. I'm a no one. All I can do is make a thread on a forum when it already too late. Lately I've just been loling at the end of the world. Fairly fucked but if you don't accept it - it will drive a man mad. People are so clueless.
Can't deny it and not act because that kinda pisses me off. That ship has sailed boys.
Science needs to move forward in unbiased fashion - not by withholding or manipulating information. In any case, it doesn't matter if people believe that human beings are causing climate change or if they think it is caused by non-human processes. If there is technology or other means to reduce issues then they can try and implement them.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionOne last thing on this topic. I am not even sure what climategate suggests. Assume these guys truly believe Earth warming is a real thing. If they do, they will feel extraordinarily motivated to move mankind into a sustainable future. If they are decent people - what else would they do?Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayPlease just click on the Amazon link and read it for yourself. I am not going to risk posting the screenshots of the pages as they say "copyrighted material". I don't know where the original e-mails are at this point - but they are shown starting on page 9 of this book, which can be seen for free on the Amazon link.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
So you can say this and that about them but it really doesn't suggest much to me. I'm not sure how you see it. I see it as sadly expected. Internal equation -> (Trying you hardest to save the world for your progeny) vs (be dishonest about some research)? What is the rightous and ethical thing to do? I know what I would have done.
Really kinda a bummer thinking about it through their eyes. The power they wielded. I'm a no one. All I can do is make a thread on a forum when it already too late. Lately I've just been loling at the end of the world. Fairly fucked but if you don't accept it - it will drive a man mad. People are so clueless.
Can't deny it and not act because that kinda pisses me off. That ship has sailed boys.
lol I fucked up my post. I meant to say there are 2 options. Either trying your hardest to save the world for your progeny by being misleading with research OR being honest about research, and having every agenda oriented person use it as counter-evidence for years (and thus do a far outsized damage to the underlying beliefs.)Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayScience needs to move forward in unbiased fashion - not by withholding or manipulating information. In any case, it doesn't matter if people believe that human beings are causing climate change or if they think it is caused by non-human processes. If there is technology or other means to reduce issues then they can try and implement them.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionOne last thing on this topic. I am not even sure what climategate suggests. Assume these guys truly believe Earth warming is a real thing. If they do, they will feel extraordinarily motivated to move mankind into a sustainable future. If they are decent people - what else would they do?Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
So you can say this and that about them but it really doesn't suggest much to me. I'm not sure how you see it. I see it as sadly expected. Internal equation -> (Trying you hardest to save the world for your progeny) vs (be dishonest about some research)? What is the rightous and ethical thing to do? I know what I would have done.
Really kinda a bummer thinking about it through their eyes. The power they wielded. I'm a no one. All I can do is make a thread on a forum when it already too late. Lately I've just been loling at the end of the world. Fairly fucked but if you don't accept it - it will drive a man mad. People are so clueless.
Can't deny it and not act because that kinda pisses me off. That ship has sailed boys.
I'm fairly bad at communicating. Oh well. I hope it makes sense.
I just think those ClimateGate guys did a rational thing even if it really flies in the face of what science should be. The situation was that grim and it is even grimmer now.
In almost all other scientific fraud - you can look at the motivation and find moral fault in the fraudster. Whether money, fame, or academic clout. This isn't what that is.
Nice interacting like reasonable folks.
There are universal solutions that can reduce the problem regardless of if it is a non-man made process or caused by man. For example mirrored satellites in Geo-synchronous orbit can be deployed and the light from the sun can be partially deflected to whatever degree is appropriate for a given region below a given satellite.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionlol I fucked up my post. I meant to say there are 2 options. Either trying your hardest to save the world for your progeny by being misleading with research OR being honest about research, and having every agenda oriented person use it as counter-evidence for years (and thus do a far outsized damage to the underlying beliefs.)Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayScience needs to move forward in unbiased fashion - not by withholding or manipulating information. In any case, it doesn't matter if people believe that human beings are causing climate change or if they think it is caused by non-human processes. If there is technology or other means to reduce issues then they can try and implement them.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
I'm fairly bad at communicating. Oh well. I hope it makes sense.
I just think those ClimateGate guys did a rational thing even if it really flies in the face of what science should be. The situation was that grim and it is even grimmer now.
In almost all other scientific fraud - you can look at the motivation and find moral fault in the fraudster. Whether money, fame, or academic clout. This isn't what that is.
Nice interacting like reasonable folks.
You’re so certain yet unable to accomplish the basic’s of an adult male. Find love and procreate to further the human race.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionSo the smartest guys in your HS who decided to dedicate themselves to knowledge instead of careers based on making money and we're supposed to believe they're driven by grant money.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayI've already stated my position on this which is that there is too much complexity to make a definitive statement about the cause of the current hyperthermal. The people making these conclusions should then also explain how the other hyperthermals previous to this one occurred in the absence of man. I now defer to Upton Sinclair in regards to grant money: “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
A grifter with no jobs skills except pandering on a Youtube for money get far more credibility amongst many of a certain type.
I am fairly confident that physics PhDs can accurately model the interactions of the the radiation with greenhouse gasses. I'm fairly confident believing they can do this.
However, these same scientists can't model how the environment will respond with any significant accuracy.
I could understand your position if you were stating latter and not former but that isn't what is going on.
The question is not whether man caused global warming. The only question to be decided is when and how fast is the shit going to smack humanity in the face.
Yup we should believe you
Another perfect month so far. Nothing changed great air nice weather. No major problems and life is the same. The only problem we have that are man made have been created by Joe Biden. His administrations failure to understand monetary policy will bankrupt many. As he steals your money funding fake things like climate and Transgender men In women's bathrooms. Imagine your 15 year old daughter at the YMCA now must stare at adult mens dicks swinging in the shower. This is how weird you guys areQuote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionlol I fucked up my post. I meant to say there are 2 options. Either trying your hardest to save the world for your progeny by being misleading with research OR being honest about research, and having every agenda oriented person use it as counter-evidence for years (and thus do a far outsized damage to the underlying beliefs.)Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayScience needs to move forward in unbiased fashion - not by withholding or manipulating information. In any case, it doesn't matter if people believe that human beings are causing climate change or if they think it is caused by non-human processes. If there is technology or other means to reduce issues then they can try and implement them.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
I'm fairly bad at communicating. Oh well. I hope it makes sense.
I just think those ClimateGate guys did a rational thing even if it really flies in the face of what science should be. The situation was that grim and it is even grimmer now.
In almost all other scientific fraud - you can look at the motivation and find moral fault in the fraudster. Whether money, fame, or academic clout. This isn't what that is.
Nice interacting like reasonable folks.
Why do I want to procreate when I know how depressing and miserable life will be in likely 20 years. Whatever, it is obvious the decay has already started.Quote:
Originally Posted by SeedvalueYou’re so certain yet unable to accomplish the basic’s of an adult male. Find love and procreate to further the human race.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionSo the smartest guys in your HS who decided to dedicate themselves to knowledge instead of careers based on making money and we're supposed to believe they're driven by grant money.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
A grifter with no jobs skills except pandering on a Youtube for money get far more credibility amongst many of a certain type.
I am fairly confident that physics PhDs can accurately model the interactions of the the radiation with greenhouse gasses. I'm fairly confident believing they can do this.
However, these same scientists can't model how the environment will respond with any significant accuracy.
I could understand your position if you were stating latter and not former but that isn't what is going on.
The question is not whether man caused global warming. The only question to be decided is when and how fast is the shit going to smack humanity in the face.
Yup we should believe you
It is telling that you think impregnating a girl is an actual achievement.
In my world is it more impressive one has ducked those traps. Lots of negotiating for plan-B.
Don't try to edumacate these idgits.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
If Carl Sagan was alive today he would of questioned the Covid Vaccine and Global Warming.
What these Fuckers are preaching and swallowing today is Pseudo Funded Science.
No more Funding... No more Fearmongering about Climate Change.
"We've arranged a society based on science and technology in which nobody understands anything about science and technology.
This combustible mixture of ignorance and power, sooner or later, is gonna blow up in our faces." —Carl Sagan, May 27th, 1996
"Science is a way of thinking, a way of skeptically interrogating the Universe ...
If we are not able to ask skeptical questions, to interrogate those who tell us that something is true, to be skeptical of those in authority, then we're up for grabs for the next charlatan Political or Religious Leader who comes stumbling along... POLITICAL! (This is also a Carl Sagan Quote)
Also Religious and even though I believe in the words of Jesus and the Bible I personally am against all Organized Religions.
Faith is Not a Religion.
Living as Jesus taught is not to be taxed, bought or sold.
You are not supposed to profit off of any of it in any worldly, material sense.
I certainly do not act accordingly but that doesn't deter from the fact that I understand the blueprint.
If the people do not get educated and question authority they will be forced to be listen and work for the government instead of the government listening and working for the people.
This is the whole point of Government of the People, By the People and For the People.
Unfortunately, most of you bastards want to be slaves and do what you're told.
Like the Good Little Sheeple that you are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yiu9ret6dJk
I understand you Climate Change, Covid Vaccine Drones though.
“If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle.
It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken.
Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.”
- Carl Sagan -
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Originally Posted by accountinquestionWhy do I want to procreate when I know how depressing and miserable life will be in likely 20 years. Whatever, it is obvious the decay has already started.Quote:
Originally Posted by SeedvalueYou’re so certain yet unable to accomplish the basic’s of an adult male. Find love and procreate to further the human race.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
Yup we should believe you
It is telling that you think impregnating a girl is an actual achievement.
In my world is it more impressive one has ducked those traps. Lots of negotiating for plan-B.
Yes it is telling. It confirms I’m not insane like you. I have to believe your trolling now. In 20 years nothing will be different. The climate will be the same no worries at all. If we literally do nothing it will be the same.
Keith Briffia, who advised the IPCC regarding climate change, had his e-mails hacked (along with others).Quote:
Originally Posted by monet
Check out what he wrote in one of his e-mails:
"I believe that the recent warmth was probably matched about 1000 years ago" (there were men back then, but no factories, LOL).
and then Malclom Hughes (also an IPCC shill):"I tried to imply in my e-mail, but will now say directly, that although a direct carbon dioxide effect is still the best candidate to explain this effect, it is far from proven. In any case, the relevant point is that there is no meaningful correlation with local temperature.
These are both IPCC alarmists caught red-handed when there e-mails were hacked.
lulz... I mean two years ago they were telling us that we need to shut the entire world down because 50% of the population would die from Covid if we didn't. Now they want to say that we are all going to die from global warming. Always Fearmongering with these powers that be so they can scare the populace into more tax dollar scams. But that aint good enough for them. They now want us to pay 12 dollars for a dozen eggs, 8 dollars for a pound of poison hamburger and 5 dollars for a gallon of gas not to mention five dollars for a gallon of milk. These prices will never go down now that they know we will pay.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayKeith Briffia, who advised the IPCC regarding climate change, had his e-mails hacked (along with others).Quote:
Originally Posted by monet
Check out what he wrote in one of his e-mails:
"I believe that the recent warmth was probably matched about 1000 years ago" (there were men back then, but no factories, LOL).
and then Malclom Hughes (also an IPCC shill):"I tried to imply in my e-mail, but will now say directly, that although a direct carbon dioxide effect is still the best candidate to explain this effect, it is far from proven. In any case, the relevant point is that there is no meaningful correlation with local temperature.
These are both IPCC alarmists caught red-handed when there e-mails were hacked.
Why are you so stuck on them and wish to ignore all the subsequent data that has come out? (in additional to empirical data) Always wanting to explain it away as some 'man behind the curtain' sort of thinking. Who is the scarecrow, who is the tinman? and who is the lion?Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayKeith Briffia, who advised the IPCC regarding climate change, had his e-mails hacked (along with others).Quote:
Originally Posted by monet
Check out what he wrote in one of his e-mails:
"I believe that the recent warmth was probably matched about 1000 years ago" (there were men back then, but no factories, LOL).
and then Malclom Hughes (also an IPCC shill):"I tried to imply in my e-mail, but will now say directly, that although a direct carbon dioxide effect is still the best candidate to explain this effect, it is far from proven. In any case, the relevant point is that there is no meaningful correlation with local temperature.
These are both IPCC alarmists caught red-handed when there e-mails were hacked.
I don't recall people saying 50% were going to die but sure if you say so. The biggest reason I wasn't so against lockdowns and such was that so the medical community doesn't become overrun.Quote:
Originally Posted by monetlulz... I mean two years ago they were telling us that we need to shut the entire world down because 50% of the population would die from Covid if we didn't. Now they want to say that we are all going to die from global warming. Always Fearmongering with these powers that be so they can scare the populace into more tax dollar scams. But that aint good enough for them. They now want us to pay 12 dollars for a dozen eggs, 8 dollars for a pound of poison hamburger and 5 dollars for a gallon of gas not to mention five dollars for a gallon of milk. These prices will never go down now that they know we will pay.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayKeith Briffia, who advised the IPCC regarding climate change, had his e-mails hacked (along with others).Quote:
Originally Posted by monet
Check out what he wrote in one of his e-mails:
"I believe that the recent warmth was probably matched about 1000 years ago" (there were men back then, but no factories, LOL).
and then Malclom Hughes (also an IPCC shill):"I tried to imply in my e-mail, but will now say directly, that although a direct carbon dioxide effect is still the best candidate to explain this effect, it is far from proven. In any case, the relevant point is that there is no meaningful correlation with local temperature.
These are both IPCC alarmists caught red-handed when there e-mails were hacked.
A few years ago "they" (hey, it'll always be they.. you know.. they meaning NOT me..) kept telling us how bad medical care was in socialized countries. A female friend of mine has a cancer scare going on. *2* months to see a specialist and she has insurance. God only knows how many people would have left medical establishment after being slammed with a infectious disease and so many people not giving a fuck. At some point, lots are just going to say "peace out and fuck this". This is in a highly educated pricey town.. Not some shithole.
The best thing is how you types always thump your chest and talk about "them". How "they" is like one big group of scientists all out to get you so they can be paid their grand money and live in that oh so typical middle class lifestyle. It helps you rationalize your views. You know, you're the independent thinker !!! Not a follower!! Then these Youtube grifting fucks pander to that thinking. Always so indepedent. As if being a contrarian about everything in life somehow makes you smart.
Where are all those people who were to die from the Vax? Oh yea.. a guy had a heartattack on a football field. MUST HAVE BEEN THE VAX! WE HAVE PROVEN IT NOW! they say.. hahahahahahaha..
These same scientists now want Monet to pay more for eggs!! Yea, avian flu isn't a real thing either!! Nothing is. Haha..
I'll say this - Monet has cured me of racism .. you look at him and think.. geeezz.. how can I be racist when we got white guys like this !?!?
It is a clown fucking world.
Because they sat on the Intergovernmental Panel for Climate Change (IPCC) and informed government policy on Climate Change. No doubt future data was never doctored either. These guys learned their lesson - don't send e-mails or chat texts. Discuss in person or not at all. I guess if gravity works now, future data might suggest it won't in the future - we might not have the theory down pat yet. They had the tech back then to show the correlation between CO2 and local temperature - future data won't change that and neither will fraudsters.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
Government has done relatively little. This is why I only post stuff that is currently going on. As some point it'll be apparent.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayBecause they sat on the Intergovernmental Panel for Climate Change (IPCC) and informed government policy on Climate Change. No doubt future data was never doctored either. These guys learned their lesson - don't send e-mails or chat texts. Discuss in person or not at all. I guess if gravity works now, future data might suggest it won't in the future - we might not have the theory down pat yet. They had the tech back then to show the correlation between CO2 and local temperature - future data won't change that and neither will fraudsters.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
I do believe you are right in that IPCC have a strong incentive to not be straight-forward about all funded studies. For non-selfish reasons which are almost never comparable to other scientific fraud but you can basically use this argument for all science. Some scientists lied therefore all subsequent research can't be trusted. So I guess you work from the default point that science is false? What is the burden of counter evidence needed? How do you segregate scientists to trust vs those who you can't?
The original alarmists worked for oil companies. You think that was the right approach for guys who wanted continued funding? Or did they see the potential for money from future grants not coming from oil companies? Did they know oil companies would pay them off if they just shut-up and retired?
From this perspective you can't trust oil companies anymore than climate scientists. Exact same thing. Hide inconvenient studies.
If you remove the oil companies out of the equation for lying, then you're only left with pretty much conspiracy theorists.
When the loons who are leading the denial stuff decide there is no more money in their grifts, it will be beyond too late.
It is a bit like Pascal's wager but meant for the global and future global populations.
I already wrote that the tech to make the determinations was advanced enough to reach definitive, accurate conclusions in this regard, but you ignored that point. Tree ring sampling was already a well-established, mature science when the fraudsters decided to withhold critical information regarding the informing of climate policy. In this case that tree ring data showed that there was a rapid heating event 1000 years ago that matched the present industrial age. Feel free to continue to conflate this well-developed tech with less developed technology followed by the usage of such conflation to make the garbage non-points you make above. No one can stop you from doing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionGovernment has done relatively little. This is why I only post stuff that is currently going on. As some point it'll be apparent.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayBecause they sat on the Intergovernmental Panel for Climate Change (IPCC) and informed government policy on Climate Change. No doubt future data was never doctored either. These guys learned their lesson - don't send e-mails or chat texts. Discuss in person or not at all. I guess if gravity works now, future data might suggest it won't in the future - we might not have the theory down pat yet. They had the tech back then to show the correlation between CO2 and local temperature - future data won't change that and neither will fraudsters.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
I do believe you are right in that IPCC have a strong incentive to not be straight-forward about all funded studies. For non-selfish reasons which are almost never comparable to other scientific fraud but you can basically use this argument for all science. Some scientists lied therefore all subsequent research can't be trusted. So I guess you work from the default point that science is false? What is the burden of counter evidence needed? How do you segregate scientists to trust vs those who you can't?
The original alarmists worked for oil companies. You think that was the right approach for guys who wanted continued funding? Or did they see the potential for money from future grants not coming from oil companies? Did they know oil companies would pay them off if they just shut-up and retired?
From this perspective you can't trust oil companies anymore than climate scientists. Exact same thing. Hide inconvenient studies.
If you remove the oil companies out of the equation for lying, then you're only left with pretty much conspiracy theorists.
When the loons who are leading the denial stuff decide there is no more money in their grifts, it will be beyond too late.
It is a bit like Pascal's wager but meant for the global and future global populations.
Good answer for me backing you into a hole with your bullshit rationalizations. I'm impressed.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayI already wrote that the tech to make the determinations was advanced enough to reach definitive, accurate conclusions in this regard, but you ignored that point. Tree ring sampling was already a well-established, mature science when the fraudsters decided to withhold critical information regarding the informing of climate policy. In this case that tree ring data showed that there was a rapid heating event 1000 years ago that matched the present industrial age. Feel free to continue to conflate this well-developed tech with less developed technology followed by the usage of such conflation to make the garbage non-points you make above. No one can stop you from doing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionGovernment has done relatively little. This is why I only post stuff that is currently going on. As some point it'll be apparent.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
I do believe you are right in that IPCC have a strong incentive to not be straight-forward about all funded studies. For non-selfish reasons which are almost never comparable to other scientific fraud but you can basically use this argument for all science. Some scientists lied therefore all subsequent research can't be trusted. So I guess you work from the default point that science is false? What is the burden of counter evidence needed? How do you segregate scientists to trust vs those who you can't?
The original alarmists worked for oil companies. You think that was the right approach for guys who wanted continued funding? Or did they see the potential for money from future grants not coming from oil companies? Did they know oil companies would pay them off if they just shut-up and retired?
From this perspective you can't trust oil companies anymore than climate scientists. Exact same thing. Hide inconvenient studies.
If you remove the oil companies out of the equation for lying, then you're only left with pretty much conspiracy theorists.
When the loons who are leading the denial stuff decide there is no more money in their grifts, it will be beyond too late.
It is a bit like Pascal's wager but meant for the global and future global populations.
The fact is this has been measured many times over but you think we should have a global instrastructure put into place from what I gather. As if that is going to make a difference. It will just be a new conspiracy theory. Total fucking lock.
Not sure if this has been studied in the past 20 years or not as this info comes from 2002.Quote:
Because the authors of the Science paper averaged their data over 40 years to smooth out year-to-year fluctuations, their temperature curve does not reflect the most recent warming.
''They've kind of smoothed out of the record,'' Dr. Mann said. ''It doesn't support the conclusion that the medieval warmth was comparable to the latter 20th century warmth.''
Rather, the peak temperatures in the Medieval Warm Period are similar to those seen in the first half of the 20th century, and that warming, most scientists agree, was induced naturally, by a brightening of the sun.
You didn't back anyone into a hole. Climatologists in the IPCC withleld and manipulated data and the e-mails are there to prove it. Fuck off.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
A documentary about leaving Earth.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
https://www6.f2movies.to/watch-movie...-78061.8167102
The authors of the Nature paper Accountinquestion linked to cherry pick the time window 2001-2011 to compare to 1000AD to 1800AD Bill. They fail to explain why 1991-2000 modern industrial data is omitted and they give the excuse that data after 2011 is too sparse to be included while failing to provide the mean temperatures of this sparse data so that the reader just assumes it's down to only the sparseness. Sparseness is typically dealt with by weighting the data less than the less sparse data rather than omitting it Bill. The authors even admit that there is pronounced natural variability and I excerpt this in the screenshot below.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGrimReaperA documentary about leaving Earth.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
https://www6.f2movies.to/watch-movie...-78061.8167102
We shouldn't be worrying about climate change so much.
We should be worrying about the massive decline in birth rates around the world.
That is going to cause collapse and kill us much faster compared to any excessive heat.
But you know, everyone wants to be gay and change their gender identity, these days, so, you can forget about people having enough children.
Which is what is actually needed to maintain our industry.
Indeed - as only a single individual, Seedvalue can only do so much to rectify the situation. BTW, Baldwin got charged for manslaughter, so I fully expect an interesting drop from America's Untold Stories tomorrow, complete with appearances from Viva and Barnes as podcast guests I would guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by monet
lol at your seedvalue comment, and yeah, can't wait for that drop!Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayIndeed - as only a single individual, Seedvalue can only do so much to rectify the situation. BTW, Baldwin got charged for manslaughter, so I fully expect an interesting drop from America's Untold Stories tomorrow, complete with appearances from Viva and Barnes as podcast guests I would guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by monet
Even though I am starting to think that Mark is way too sensitive on certain subjects.
It's like he can dish out all the jokes and bashing but he has a really hard time in taking any jokes or criticism and he admitted to this in a couple of his videos.
That's a very good point. What's interesting to me about that fact, is that he is thick-skinned with respect to his enemies (woke libtards and such), but a bit thin-skinned with some of his friends' jokes like Hunley's.Quote:
Originally Posted by monetlol at your seedvalue comment, and yeah, can't wait for that drop!Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayIndeed - as only a single individual, Seedvalue can only do so much to rectify the situation. BTW, Baldwin got charged for manslaughter, so I fully expect an interesting drop from America's Untold Stories tomorrow, complete with appearances from Viva and Barnes as podcast guests I would guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by monet
Even though I am starting to think that Mark is way too sensitive on certain subjects.
It's like he can dish out all the jokes and bashing but he has a really hard time in taking any jokes or criticism and he admitted to this in a couple of his videos.
Maybe married men should want to fuck their wife, when their wife wants to fuck them too.Quote:
Originally Posted by monet
I recall AxelAss claiming that he didn't want to have children.
LOL...that's code for impotent.
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Now that the old gang is back together, I can't get out of here fast enough. A few well placed posts. Lol lol lol. Ha.
Now That's What I Call Power Ballads: Total Eclipse of the Heart.
https://anagram-solver.net/Now%20tha....?partial=true
Actually, the same as the last time Singer took off, to GF's, when I posted up a snippet of a post of his over here, back then. Got the convo going, again, especially with Druff, Druff.Quote:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcOxhH8N3Bo
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https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/06/w...er-africa.html
First "heat officer" in Africa. I expect the ny times to play it up a bit but people already having a rough time regulating their bodies at the higher temperatures. Just wait til it starts a cookin' even more.
Gawd glad I was born in the US. Those people never even got to enjoy the lifestyle that will cause future people an incredible amount of suffering.
It looks like Jordan not only cleaned up his addiction problem but put some dough into his podcast as well...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reaABJ5HpLk
Haven't had enough of the Climate Con?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDWq7-eP5sE
Why always Jordan Peterson? You'd think the deniers would have a wider audience if they know the truth which is accepted all over the globe by the large majority of actual scientists. Peterson has been given enough chances from me wasting my time paying any attention to him.
I was curious what his background is. Psychology.. he even had a associate professorship at harvard. From my limited observation soft science academics often get where they are due to politics of some sort. Manipulation. Can't really do that with hard sciences. So all at once Jordan has a chance to make far more money being an infuencer type. It all kinda fits with my worldview. Guy is super sharp regardless, likely a real operator / manipulator. His polished his pander is magnificent.
But anyway... Media doesnt like talking about climate stuff much. It does not make for happy media consumers. The only guys who are not directly related to the climate and talk about it often are these uhm trumpesque pandering types. It brings the clicks no the contrarian right who sits around jerking off thinking they're independent thinkers because they fall for this shit.
^^ I should edit my posts. I'll be better. After all - for many this is their one stop shop for unambiguous end of first-world lifestyles at minimum and what is most likely global starvation. lolz
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/wi...ue/ar-AA16B4zX
Here is another one. So great salt lake is drying up. Government trying to figure out what to do. Salinitiy going way up, killing off lowest level of food chain. Migratory birds rely on the lake. Chain reactions are starting.
What option do they have in their toolbox? Don't pay farmers to grow food so there is more water to flow in. Yep thats the best mitigation they have start paying farmers for crops. Wow what mitigation and it has barely started !
Awww Shit, the WEF at it again...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRpVmrfZOnQ
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So I thought it was all the grant writers trying to hang on to their jobs so they made this all up. You know, 1000s or more, all across the world.Now I learn it is John Kerry's daughter and the WEF !
She needs to go die. Not sure what the argument is that she should be listened to outside of nepotism. Gee daddy, what can I do with myself? I'm of middling talent.
TBH I kinda like Shapiro related to the rest of these guys. He is kinda respectable.
It is one thing to point out that Earth warming has people wanting more control. It is an other one to say they have manufactured this. No, the WEF did not manufacture this. Kinda a stupid thing to say.
It is probably the case that some eco-fascist type government is needed but it ain't happening and why I stand behind the whole WE'RE FUCKING DOOMED. This isn't covid jab bullshit.
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Originally Posted by monet
So I thought it was all the grant writers trying to hang on to their jobs so they made this all up. You know, 1000s or more, all across the world.Now I learn it is John Kerry's daughter and the WEF !
She needs to go die. Not sure what the argument is that she should be listened to outside of nepotism. Gee daddy, what can I do with myself? I'm of middling talent.
TBH I kinda like Shapiro related to the rest of these guys. He is kinda respectable.
It is one thing to point out that Earth warming has people wanting more control. It is an other one to say they have manufactured this. No, the WEF did not manufacture this. Kinda a stupid thing to say.
It is probably the case that some eco-fascist type government is needed but it ain't happening and why I stand behind the whole WE'RE FUCKING DOOMED. This isn't covid jab bullshit.
Lol
What a complete lunatic
Capital allocators who are orders of magnitude smarter then you disagree lol.
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So I thought it was all the grant writers trying to hang on to their jobs so they made this all up. You know, 1000s or more, all across the world.Now I learn it is John Kerry's daughter and the WEF !
She needs to go die. Not sure what the argument is that she should be listened to outside of nepotism. Gee daddy, what can I do with myself? I'm of middling talent.
TBH I kinda like Shapiro related to the rest of these guys. He is kinda respectable.
It is one thing to point out that Earth warming has people wanting more control. It is an other one to say they have manufactured this. No, the WEF did not manufacture this. Kinda a stupid thing to say.
It is probably the case that some eco-fascist type government is needed but it ain't happening and why I stand behind the whole WE'RE FUCKING DOOMED. This isn't covid jab bullshit.
Lol
What a complete lunatic
Capital allocators who are orders of magnitude smarter then you disagree lol.
Elliot the pussy free cuck
No clue what you mean by "capital allocators". Everyone is a capital allocator in the US. You should be more specific if you're going to make clown statements.
Speaking of clarity, and precision, even our thoughts are of the universe, a product of it, and, so, even final answers are supposed to be somewhat fuzzy. Locking ourselves into one or the other, well, is the catch of death.
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Hysterically dire as it sounds, however, it's where you end up instead of
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if you don't learn how to extricate yourself from time and space (find the theory of everything) to connect, say, the big bang/crunch cycles of the universe proper, ha, as with
Yes, Tablepooey, numerals for some of the letters changes things beyond only that of the letters, but, it puts the numerals (math) on the words (physics). I like it when the numerals work themselves through their exponents, as with the 13467 result above. Blends in with a particular sort and degree of math and physics. Self-similar operations of numbers. The Eigenvalues, axes, or bases, etc, of the universe proper.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGrimReaperPutting three 6's for the three f's, the sixth letter of the alphabet, and, three 5's for the remaining s's, we have
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Father Time's image comes from the ancient Roman god of time, Saturn. The ancient Greeks often referred to Saturn as Kronos or Chronos, which means “time." Saturn was usually portrayed as an old man with a scythe since his functions related to farming, and his yearly festival was a harvest celebration.
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134 = 2 x 67; (134^2 - 67^2) = 13467 = 1*√9*[6*(10 + 0^0) + 7^0]^2 ---> 1961, and July 2.
https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post153679
Anyway, it's the Chinese Zodiac New Year's Day, today, to go with the twelve signs of the Zodiac. The Ox for 1961, a couple of years ago. Now I wonder that it was essentially the year before 2022, as the basis of 2022, instead of its latter part. (1961 + 61) = 2022, with the 61st year to continue on to July 2, 2023; or, is it the 62nd year to then? I've naturally come to take, say, dimension-3 to be the ordinal, fourth dimension, going from cardinal dimensions 0, 1, 2, to 3. Ah, just, noticed that (2022 / 12) = 168.5 = (169 - 0.6 + 0.1) ---> 1961.
https://www.chinahighlights.com/trav...hinese-zodiac/
Oh, one other thing for now. Now I thought to put the entire alphabet into the anagram solver, six times over, eight characters less than the maximum 164 allowed.
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abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwx yzabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklmnopqrstuv wxyzabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklmnopqrst uvwxyz
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136 ------------> 136 = (-1 + 137) ---> 1/137, or, (-0^0 + .197) ---> 0.197
Another moronic post can now be added to the massive trash pile of posts you have already created with your multiple aliases.Quote:
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What a "liberated" word, once dissected. Anyway, what's the point of joining a "nudist colony" (in terms of free speech, like this one) if you're not going to take off your "clothes"? I guess that I identify with "Seed", in this respect. Someone who's not afraid of his "sexuality", or whatever. It's a waste of freedom otherwise. Lol, people griping about every thing under the sun, but, in the end, all for nothing, with nothing to hope for, win, or lose.
You guys are more uptight than the moderated boards.
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What in the Fuck???
So, he basically owns the WHO.
I also read that the FDA is 70% funded by Big Pharma?
That's not a conflict of interest at all.
Nice of him to give Fauci at least 18 Million to do some "virus research".
I guess 155 Million to the CDC isn't that much.
Doesn't mean a thing!
Recall that the epidemiologist Neil Ferguson from Imperial College (it shows that Bill donated 280 million to Imperial College), whose models were used to inform the necessity of lockdowns in the UK, was caught violating a lockdown with his girlfriend.Quote:
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You’re just suffering from dual confirmation and survivorship biases.Quote:
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So funny.. the guy tries to finance things that are effective in bringing positive change to the people and it is some big conspiracy..Quote:
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Monet would be screaming about fluoride in the water if it was still a thing.
The FDA having the drug stuff funded by Big Pharma is crazy but hard to complain about taxes then also complain about that. Not sure what you think the alternative should be.
And so what is your point? He had a woman visit him. Hypcrocrisy sure but unless she was using mass transportation I fail to see how this was anywhere near risky behavior. Very lame of him. More lame that he was caught. (Wonder how?)Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayRecall that the epidemiologist Neil Ferguson from Imperial College (it shows that Bill donated 280 million to Imperial College), whose models were used to inform the necessity of lockdowns in the UK, was caught violating a lockdown with his girlfriend.Quote:
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But. it wasn't like he was caught having a party in his house. Sure though, read a ton into this. The smart guys yall are. Got'em in the BIG LIE.
Monet probably has his gf on lockdown anyway and Tableplay probably hasn't seen a naked girl outside $$$.
He built the models that created the lockdown policy in the UK and then disregarded the lockdowns - I guess he was a big believer in the models he built and the threat that Covid-19 posed. Anyway, no big deal - he probably just resigned after that for the heck of it.Quote:
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He probably resigned because he knew it cast a bad light on the government position. He still has plenty of posiitions in various places similar to that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayHe built the models that created the lockdown policy in the UK and then disregarded the lockdowns - I guess he was a big believer in the models he built and the threat that Covid-19 posed. Anyway, no big deal - he probably just resigned after that for the heck of it.Quote:
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Literally this is a conspiracy because a guy wanted to fuck his girlfriend and did so and had already caught it prior.
The people at the top have no interest in limiting their consumption of fossil fuels.
But they do seem to have an interest in limiting yours, mine and depopulating the Earth...
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Ahh Jordan Peterson the guy who leads beta-cucks to self-realization.Quote:
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Always the same few bullshit artists. Dore and Jordan are clearly in #1 and #2.
He probably resigned because he was probably told he would be fired if he didn't resign.Quote:
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Clearly his models determined that he was engaged in dangerous behavior, otherwise it would not have been in violation of the lockdown policy that his models informed. He violated the lockdown because he knew his models were bunk and that it wasn't dangerous to go fuck his girlfriend.Quote:
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A lot of people wanted to fuck their girlfriends during the lockdown but didn't because of the restrictions. A lot of people wanted to run a business, but instead went bankrupt because of his models. I completely agree with him that his models were bunk and I completely disregarded the US lockdowns like he did in the UK.