When you enlist a new team member to get cards for you, do you stake them for their initial play to generate the offers?
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Welcome new team member Coach Belly to the Dark Oz players' club card hustling team.
Nah, just a couple of candy-asses.
https://www.gamblingforums.com/threa...420#post-98845
That Freddy is hilarious.
He says if we can read forums so can casinos and my name is available to be looked up.
So? I use OTHER PEOPLE'S CARDS!!!.
One casino caught me and sent my info to another one so they cut my offers off. I had 28 cards there. After they cut off my personal offers now I had 27 cards.
I don't even go anymore. I send in my crew.
I'm not the one who is in fear, lol.
$20K in free slot play per week isn’t hard. It’s a lot of work and depends on the market.
If you look at the Sacramento, Reno, Tahoe, Fresno, LA, and San Diego markets, $20K a week is doable. It’s a lot of work to set up and run the coin-in through to set up the system. You just have to be careful of places like Red Hawk that don’t like dine and dash (Red Hawk will cut you off immediately); places where once you insert your players card, you get a host greeting you within 10 seconds, etc.
Casino reward clubs are set up differently and if you play at Class II casinos, they are going to be a lot more generous with their welfare checks (also called mailers or bounce backs).
The hard part is keeping the system running after setting it up. Some casino set the offer good for 3 months, others is for 2 months, etc.
You're preaching to the choir on that aspect, I didn't ask how much free-play he earned, I asked if it he was consistently making a profit of 20k a week. From my understanding, he's not going after 5 and 10K must hits and whatnot. I got the impression he's not jamming through 50k+ on any single card. If you consider all his history and the things that have said in the past when and how he got started and the fact that he doesn't do any other type of AP other than ABC multi-carding mail offers on the EC VIA THE BUS and TRAIN system, I find it hard to swallow(insert joke) is making close to 1 million a year.
Perhaps this is a better question, DarkOZ since you have been so open about stuff this far. Is your personal savings/ bankroll over 700k right now? I suspect it should be at least that, if you're making over $1000000 a year.
The better question is does grabbing freeplay and life lways go without a hitch.
If that was the case I would have over $700k.
I never said I made a mil a year. I said I make about $20,000 a week.
Bit there have been setbacks along the road.
A major burglary last year was one of them. I never said how much money it was for. I prefer to keep it unknown. Trust me it was for a lot and more than people here have surmised.
After the robbery tens of thousands were spent on replacing cards.
Then the Monticello casino closed. It was one of my major operations (no point in hiding that fact now).
Thru 2019 I had five different operations close on me literally in a month by month succession.
One casino with $100,000 freeplay a month (against $40,000 operating cost) changed ownership and the new owners understood exactly what I was doing and shut me down.
Another major operation I had an employee stealing my freeplay (pins would change and my people would come down to fix them, the offers for the day gone). Next week it would hit someone else. Can't complain cause they will follow the cards and see my people as well). One day they caught the employee stealing my cards offers and that led to uncovering my operation there.
2019 was brutal.
I spent a lot of the 2nd half of 2019 exploring new markets, and then investing in multiple markets for s big plunge. 2020 was the comeback year with everything scheduled for March.
Well that didn't go too well. Instead of my operations being frozen monthly like in 2019 they were all frozen simultaneously due to Covid-19.
So now it's been a brutal year and a half.
Yet I still had enough money to take care of my family through the months of lockdown and even invest some into the stock market.
I keep it real. If everything is perfect I make $20,000 a week and I have had long stretches where that's occurred.
But the last 18 months have been brutal. If I was BS I would brag about a million in the bank. I hope you appreciate I keep it real.
This is just the 2nd week back from shutdown and I am on track to make $20,000 again. Let's see what roadblocks occur now
If you had worked a normal job, saying you had $1million saved wouldn't be seen as "BS" at all. Your card nonsense is just that-a nonsensical way to supposedly make a living, especially for a family. Whenever someone needs to rely on a bunch of others that you don't spend every casino minute with, it's taking a foolish risk. People have big mouths, and they ALWAYS look out for #1 before anything else. I'm glad axel caught you on your $1million claim which made you rethink your story a bit.
Considering how 90% of Americans started claiming they could not live for 2 weeks with covid closures because they could not feed their families any claim that normal jobs allow people to have a million dollars saved is total bullshit.
I keep it real.
I never said I made a million a year. Axel said that. I said I make $20,000 a week.
Do you think I made $20,000 a week this past April May and June. If you do you are stupid. The casinos were closed.
BTW, Axel didn't call me out on anything. I have discussed with him my turbulent year and a half so he already knew. And I was honest enough to report the truth.
But yeah I made $20,000 last week. I will again if nothing goes wrong within the next day and s half( almost there.)
Will again next week and week after
Can't speak to August as I am not certain yet how offers are affected by the reopening that far in advance.
If it makes you feel better to claim Americans with "normal" jobs have million dollar bank accounts go right ahead and feel better. You are living in a fantasy
Rob Singer living in an alternate reality or fantasy world? Hum, never heard THAT one before. :rolleyes:
I am sure Rob would post proof of his claim if asked. He could post a bank statement showing 7 figures. It won't have the bank's logo on it and may be handwritten in his own handwriting, but he could post that "proof". :cool:
Maybe for credibility he could get the "infamous squeegee" in the same picture as the handwritten bank statement.
I understand if a person found themselves on the balls of their ass like DarkOz, living off the streets of NYC, finding shelter in the holes dug for subways, along with sleeping while endlessly traveling to nowhere on the trains throughout the nights; how lonely and devastating an effect that might be to ones ego and psychological programming. Most of these types of unfortunate conditions usually combine with drug and alcohol abuse to ease the fear and pain of being such a loser.
His past might explain after discovering Advantage Casino Play, (regardless how large or small the profits might be) it was like going from a VW to a Rolls Royce when compared to begging on the streets of NYC.
Imagine going through life endlessly following assorted casinos for free play offers? Imagine the type of desperate people you need to endlessly find willing to take the needless risk of handing over their personal information to a fucking moron like DarkOz for a couple a pesos or free gifts a month? God only knows where you could find these types of people. I’m thinking more than likely the same type of people we see all over our TV’s recently killing, looting, and burning down other people’s wealth. Imagine going through life not being able to count on the next months income due to a simple policy change of a casinos marketing plans.
So, for a guy like DarkOz to come here and brag how he makes all this money doing this stuff, it becomes obvious his past corrupts his view of life and drives him into a fantasy frame of mind trying to convince anonymous people of his alleged self-proclaimed life’s achievements.
All these alleged anonymous AP claims of success on these sites are as much of a fantasy as this mental patient Dark-Oz’s claims. No doubt there are well published confirmed successful casino AP plays. But the anonymous bullshit we read on these anonymous forums is second to none when it comes to bullshit.
I also wonder where this family of his was that he talks about while he was forced to be a homeless bum.
And what good would a post about an alleged AP bragging about all of his alleged profits be without an appearance from the self-proclaimed King of AP’s AXELWOLF the AP messiah himself, casting doubts about another alleged AP’s claims or in other words, how dare you try to out do me and make me look bad on my forums.
Do you remember that old saying believe nothing you hear and only half of what you see? I think these gambling sites go one step further. Believe nothing you hear and nothing of what you see on any of them. Full time gamblers are full time bullshit artists, snakes, two-timing, scamming, lying, cheating con-artists.
Regardless what you say or claim Dark-Oz you can’t escape the above facts. LOL
Well, I think that Bozo shit himself, yesterday, was drunk or something, so the coast is clear. Ha.
P.S. Watch out for the RaMbLers.
Despite, my reputation, I don't call most people out on their claims. I have called out 3 people because I found those claims to be ridiculously egregious. Most I keep my opinion to myself, as I have done with DarkOz claims.
So don't take this as defense of DarkOz claims because it is not, BUT, he never said he made a million dollars a year. He said he made 20k one week. :rolleyes:
Frankly my assumption was that he had 20k worth of FP for that particular week and managed to not lose too much in playing it through. While he didn't say it, I assumed this was a very A-typical week. Now he is claiming he has a number of these weeks at this particular time.
When my partner and I were doing fairly significant machine play to generate free play through mailers, there were cycles. You would hit any given casino with a big play and receive an initial big mailer amount and then diminishing amounts for several months. Then you would skip play for a month or two on that card and and hit them with another big play to regenerate the cycle. So, I took it that Dark Oz may have been at the top of the cycle at this particular time, that he stated 20k. Just my guess.
Here is the one question I have. Dark Oz you said you made 20k last week or for what ever week mentioned. Are you allowing for cost to generate that free play? In other words, if your initial play to generate that 20k free play cost say 4k, the net is 16k. Are you allowing for that and talking "net" or just saying you have 20k free play for a week or number of weeks?
As Bart would say, "Who the hell are you?"
This is a very specific phrase. In my experience, persons who say stuff like, "My own rational assumption," are, well, full of it. Anyway, why make assumptions about things you have already done for yourself?
Specifically for the here and now I generated $25,000 in freeplay for March.
.I got two weeks before the shutdown for Covid-19 and recouped my investment at that time.
The offers were re-instated (there was always a concern if that would happen) so now I am in profit mode.
.last week's$25,000 FP turned into $22,000 plus but I paid people to do my pickups. I paid for an overnight on July fourth. So there were expenses.
.I made over $20,000 but rounded it down. It wasn't much more. A few hundred over
Here’s another case of another mental patient on these forums seeking attention at all costs. Kewlj
Looks like his dream site WOV is taking a nose dive. It should have been obvious to Kewlj the only reason SadShack let him back was with the hopes of boosting the daily dive in ratings. Instead of Kewlj taking the opportunity to tell SadShack to fuck off after what he allegedly did to him, he couldn’t avoid what he thought would be an opportunity for more needed exposure for self-esteem along with another place for dreaming up more fairy-tales. (Pun not intended)
Notice how he injects himself into threads with temporary action from site to site speaking like some type of authoritarian on assorted matters being discussed.
After trashing this place for years he’ll still revisit if it means more attention, even though he still remains anonymous. That’s signs of a truly sick mother fucking weirdo.
AxelWolf, Dark Oz, Kewlj, just to name a few, I’m sure that puts everything into a nut shell about these forums.
What's the difference between claiming to make $20K a week and claiming to make $1M a year?
Didn't the Wolf of Wall Street say that he was upset when he made fifty million one year because he couldn't then claim that he made a million a week?
Except in your case you now added all sorts of asterisks to your claim, stating that it refers to gross revenues only, alluding to expenses, inability to maintain that level consistently, and most confusingly, now claim that you "hope" to bring in $20K gross revenue on some weeks.
In a roundabout way DarkO just repeated what I said in the first place,
although he is still not mentioning the actual cost of doing business.
Why not just tell it like it is. I mean, I don't post about what I "expect" to book on a day's trade, I just post the trade after it is concluded.
Better yet, tell us exactly what you are doing because I know this is what you truly wish to do. Tell all! Why be intimidated by these others into revealing only half truths, especially if you are indeed the Most Feared and the casinos already know what you and everyone else are doing. This is VCT, where free speech reigns. The Most Feared would not be afraid to speak.
I won't tell you cause I don't want to see you next to me doing it.
And you would once you understood it.
The reason people want radio silence on this is because they do understand what I do and how lucrative it is. They just doubt I have scaled it up to the size I claim.
As to all types of asterisks to my claim, I claimed I made $20,000 this week. I never said I made a million a year.
I didn't make any money last week or the last three months. Gee I think casinos were closed???
I can make this very BOLD claim right now though.
I made more money this week than any show on Broadway!!!
I am certain that if millions of people start doing what I do the casinos will be forced to change or obstructy methods.
Use common sense.
They know of me and what I do. To change their freeplay methods would hurt them more than it would be helpful in stopping me.
I don't want to see everyone doing it though.
It's one reason I haven't published my book yet
Boz isn't totally wrong.
I don't believe the mechanics of the play should be spelled out.
Boz and others don't want it even known that such plays exist.
That I disagree with.
The casinos know what I do. They don't know how I circumvent their protective measures.
Gotta keep it that way
Here is an old play I already posted (and it caused an uproar as you will see in the thread)
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-...ove-explained/
I suspect that many players already multi-card, just not nearly on the same scale as you do.
monet outlined the mechanics of generating free play some time ago, and explained that using his process for many players' cards would generate opportunities for substantial profits.
Before you hit the brakes when Boz questioned your motives, I asked about the initial play that generates the offers.
How long would it take to run $50K coin through for 80 different cards, at several different properties?
Shouldn't a player expect to get greeted many different times during that process?
You wrote earlier that you set yourself up for $25K in weekly FP starting in March...did you spend most of Jan & Feb running coin through to generate the March offers?
Having 80 cards at one location is to avoid high cards being seen by hosts. So you would not run through $50k coin in per card.
Each casino is different. Too many variables. So really pointless to answer specifics.
I have a crew that can handle even coin in for me. Not just pickups
As to when I did the coin in for March it was back in September. I am several months ahead in many markets so if one goes haywire I am able to instantly switch.
Of course when every market closes for Covid-19 now I am half a year if investment behind. 9 months now that they finally are beginning to reopen. A huge amount of my bankroll was tied up for months as a result
These above comments are what I mean when I say a delusional mind living in fantasy.
First of all, make sure to put 5K to 10K aside to publish your own book. Not one publisher would be interested in your unconfirmable bullshit.
No one cares how back in the day when you begged for $20.00 on NYC streets to take a bus ride to A.C., only to get your fare back in quarters and a free meal at the all you could eat buffet. It’s obvious how you eventually discovered AP while the only intention was to stuff your desperate face with a daily free meal.
End of story…... Everything after is based on hear-say, or AP plays already known and dead.
You might sell 50 to 100 books based on the amount of forum members that might remember your bullshit posts.
You use to be a rising star at WOV forum, what happened? Ran out of losers willing to give you their casino cards via pm’s?
Over the last 3 years I’ve been to casinos maybe 4 times. Your suggestion of me wishing I knew how to AP casinos has to be one of the funniest things ever said about me and casinos in one paragraph.
I lost more money to casinos than you’ll ever see in your lifetime. In fact, probably more than you and your entire alleged crew combined will see.
Edit to add = Throw in Cock and Balls Mickey also.
In a former life, I posted up a link from a casino executive who wrote that no matter how you slice it, well, slot machine vulturing is low income. The first reputable person here to comment on the matter.
So, the Blackasshole, maybe, meant that Mickey hasn't seen much money.
Now the "Wiz" is talking about Mensa, again. A guy in his mid-fifties. Not smart enough to realize even that I.Q. only goes down with age. Yes, you can practise such, but, it only goes down with age. It's a matter of physical brain function as much as what is known and understood. I took the test, in grade-10 or so, scored 156, never bothered with the membership fee(s), never tried to take it, again, never gave it a second thought. At the time, I thought that the test was made easy so that everyone was "eligible" (to pay the fee). Ha, one guy over at the "Wiz's", if I recall, wrote that he scored 136, but, he didn't want to join because "those people were weird". Well, if he scored 136, made the grade, then he's already weird. Lol, only at the "Wiz's". Likely, the "Wiz" yearns to redo his entire life.
I don't know, LMR. Lots of hot babes in Mensa. Nothing wrong with being in Mensa. I'm not a member, but I know a couple of people who are. A lot of it is right up the Wiz's alley -- some of the meetings feature game playing and stuff like that. For the record, I took quite a few IQ tests as a kid (not my choice). One was out there (or I may be conflating it with my best year bowling -- or my weight, my girlfriend says); the others had quite a range -- about a 30 point variance, depending. So one IQ test probably not a great measure of much.
If you bring up your IQ, you've pretty much lost whatever argument you're in. The crew I hang with -- I'm low man on the IQ totem poll, and that's the way I like it. If you're the smartest guy in the room, you're in the wrong room.
Someday, we should argue about the need for masks. I'm beginning to think that the whole thing is another misguided attempt to make the public feel safe. Seriously.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...es-mask-making
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-...dy/#post774604
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-...dy/#post774613
When Singer and others used to bash redietz I dismissed it and thought they were completely wrong.
It seemed redietz was more of a street wise guy, conservative, driving around in 250k vehicles and crushing the book.
Come to find out that he is perhaps the opposite of my first impression.
His wife passes away which could make me or anyone else want to commit suicide.
I know if mine goes before me I figure its pretty much over.
I'm in my mid 40s and realize if she goes, life is basically over.
I'm not the type looking to mingle for Hot Babes at Mensa or start over in the dating scene at this stage of life.
I'm surprised that redietz is all about the Hot Babes.
Redietz is in his 60s!!
I'm surprised that he has a slant eyed girlfriend after losing the love of his love.
I'm surprised he would even post about Hot Babes after losing his wife.
Whatever, it was just surprising to me that he would post such long responses on WoV about Mensa and Hot Babes.
After learning how redietz is a Gay Rights and BLM Sympathizer I guess nothing should surprise me from his posts in the future.
Funny thing is that I thought Singer was the bad guy and after a few years of posting I realize I agree with Singer on many topics.
Not sure about the whole RV thing but that really doesn't matter to me.
I realize now, that I hardly agree with anything redietz posts about and now he is talking about Hot Babes at 62 after a tragic loss of his wife??
I guess Liberal thinking is different than Conservative.
Dennis Quaid just married a woman 39 years younger than him. For some of us it is not liberal versus conservative but viagra versus cialis.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gami...17/#post774617
Just another Liberal Pussy.
I think if the virus spread and numbers were going down there might be some argument that masks aren't necessary.
I don't understand why people of any party are so intent on getting sick.
Numbers of Coronavirus are rising. The argument is everyone should be free to infect others???
Just kill off anybody that tests positive for it instead of letting them roam free. Easy peasy.
The mask idiots make no sense to me. While they are more than free to wear a mask, they are crazy about others not wearing them. We have people in my area reporting businesses to the state when they see customers without one on.
Most of the masks I see are pure garbage material, with no legitimate filters. But according to these lunatics, one piece of shitty cloth won’t protect them, but 2 will as they expect us both to have them on. How does that make any sense to anyone?
If they truly that scared and concerned, how about they wear 2? It solves the problem and we are all good.
Looks like the Serbs got hacked, or allowed someone to for cash.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info...14/#post774599
Note no response from the Wizard or the Serbs with legitimate posters concerns.
Just another example of why the site continues to lose posters and viewers. That said, good money says the numbers will go through the roof when MDawg comes back later this month. Or at least this Egomaniac will claim they did because of him.
When you cough do you put your hand over your mouth?
Or do you say to everyone in the room it's their choice if they want to put their hands over their mouths, you feel you have the right to cough without covering your mouth and if anyone ingests your spittle, that's their problem.
We cover our mouths when coughing so germs don't spread to other people.
Covid-19 is so contagious covering your mouth only when coughing isn't enough.
Why don't you fight for your right to cough without hands covering your mouth. Let your spittle fly. Fuck everyone else. You are a free man to literally spit on others as you please
What a fucking jackass. So you are saying a cloth mask will stop this “so contagious” virus, or is it 2 with a hand? Actually I have no clue what you said. And did we ever have rules on covering your mouth?
You and I both know this is all political BS on both sides. By the way I wore a mask on 2 flights yesterday and was told how great it was by multiple airline employees. Why? Because it was a Trump mask. I did get some dirty looks as well, but no one brave enough to say anything.
And, how did you like the animal on the Brooklyn Bridge with the stick beating the police? To me it would have been a justified shooting, but obviously the police are too afraid to deal with these savages. They don’t want to risk going to jail for protecting themselves and others in this environment. And by savages I mean both white and black. Plenty of white animals out there rioting with the blacks.
I wonder why any cop goes to work in these cities anymore.
You know exactly what I said.
That's why you changed the subject to some incident on the Brooklyn Bridge.
What the fuck a cop beaten with sticks in Brooklyn has to do with wearing masks to stop the spread of contagion I guess only right wing lunatics can understand
I made this case in a number of articles. It comes down to:
We know how contagious the virus is. If you want to be unrestricted in how you behave, fine. But then don't blow a fuse when ISIS shows up with a dozen folks who injected themselves with anthrax wandering about shopping malls and airports. If anything, the ISIS people (terrorists anyone?) are being more respectful of others because at least there's a vaccine and treatment for anthrax.
If you're going to allow covid transmission in the name of liberty, at least acknowledge that you're stuck green lighting anthrax, SARS, measles, and any number of other diseases in the name of liberty.
This guy is good...
Quote:
Anthrax is not contagious; the illness cannot be transmitted from person to person. Cutaneous anthrax is the most common naturally occurring type of infection (>95%) usually occurs after skin contact with contaminated meat, wool, hides, or leather from infected animals.
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Domestic and wild animals such as cattle, sheep, goats, antelope, and deer can become infected when they breathe in or ingest spores in contaminated soil, plants, or water. In areas where domestic animals have had anthrax in the past, routine vaccination can help prevent outbreaks.
People get infected with anthrax when spores get into the body. When anthrax spores get inside the body, they can be “activated.” When they become active, the bacteria can multiply, spread out in the body, produce toxins (poisons), and cause severe illness. This can happen when people breathe in spores, eat food or drink water that is contaminated with spores, or get spores in a cut or scrape in the skin. It is very uncommon for people in the United States to get infected with anthrax.
Anthrax is most common in agricultural regions of Central and South America, sub-Saharan Africa, central and southwestern Asia, southern and eastern Europe, and the Caribbean.
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But its okay to protest/loot/riot in massive numbers with no PPE because civil rights are more important than dying of covid 19. With all that yelling going on how much spittal do you think they got all over each other, Comrade Dietz? There was nothing but dead silence from you lefty assholes when all that was going on. Then when it all slowed down you went back to your fucked up routine of "we have to protect ourselves!" Fuck you. You didn't give a rats ass when the rioting was going on and you don't give a fuck now. You're just running your punk mouth for political purposes.
Fuck politics
Facts are facts
Is the case count rising
Are stated that reopened early without mask mandates reversing their decisions.
Are places like Florida, Arizona and Texas having massive rises in Coronavirus.
You are making it political.
The virus don't give a shit about your politics.
If you're really believing this is about politics then tell your republican Arizona and Florida and Texas governor to keep the places open with no masks.
So far that isn't working out.
Not because it's Democrats fault or Republican fault but because you are dealing with a fucking non-political disease
Fuck politics
Facts are facts
Is the case count rising
Are stateds that reopened early without mask mandates reversing their decisions.
Are places like Florida, Arizona and Texas having massive rises in Coronavirus.
You are making it political.
The virus don't give a shit about your politics.
If you're really believing this is about politics then tell your republican Arizona and Florida and Texas governor to keep the places open with no masks.
So far that isn't working out.
Not because it's Democrats fault or Republican fault but because you are dealing with a fucking non-political disease