That's profound Kj. Are you by any chance a medical doctor on the side?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
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That's profound Kj. Are you by any chance a medical doctor on the side?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Latest from CDC: https://reason.com/2020/05/24/the-cd...ate-below-0-3/
If somebody doesn’t mind, please post link on WoV to shut up those libtards!
The shutdown actually turned Montana's hospitals into ghost towns. No elective surgeries and not many hospitalizations from coronavirus. To date 479 CV cases with 65 hospitalizations out of a population of 909,000. Currently only 22 active cases with 3 active hospitalizations.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJIt sounds like Montana is one of the better places to be with relatively few cases. Not all that surprising with limited population and things seemingly more open and spread out compared to a place like NYC where people live on top of each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Nevada also has relatively low numbers. Last time I looked about 7000 cases and 300 some deaths. 300 deaths....hell that is just a couple good mass shootings. (sorry bad joke).
Here my fear is that as soon as they open up casinos and put people back together cases explode. Almost has to doesn't it? And it isn't even about getting the virus. I have had the virus and maybe have some protection. What if I am in a car accident or involved in a shooting or anything medical emergency requiring medical attention and the hospitals are all overwhelmed with Covid cases. All the ICU beds are full. The nurses and doctors all overworked working 80-100 hours a week and them getting sick on top of everything. That is the concern.
And while I don't know Montana's hospital ICU bed situation, I would imagine it isn't very much and wouldn't take all that much for it to become overwhelmed. So what if you need medical attention? God forbid have another heart issue or complication?
I am not making a case for shutting down for 2 years, because I don't want that. I don't know what the answer is because the thing isn't going away. And I hope I am wrong about that, but it isnt the way these viruses work. They go away when they go away, not when people will them to go away.
We've been reopened for a month. We've had no positives in the last 3,157 tests. Redietz doom & gloom prediction for Montana is just not happening.
Montana is a microcosm of the rest of the country. With the right precautions in place the virus is not flaring up with the reopening.
Montana is nothing like where most of the population exists in the US. "microcosm" because you live there? The whole state's population doesn't hit a million and it is huge. No one wants to go there during the winter and everyone is used to not doing anything so lockdowns worked out. "microcosm" yea right.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmThe shutdown actually turned Montana's hospitals into ghost towns. No elective surgeries and not many hospitalizations from coronavirus. To date 479 CV cases with 65 hospitalizations out of a population of 909,000. Currently only 22 active cases with 3 active hospitalizations.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJIt sounds like Montana is one of the better places to be with relatively few cases. Not all that surprising with limited population and things seemingly more open and spread out compared to a place like NYC where people live on top of each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Nevada also has relatively low numbers. Last time I looked about 7000 cases and 300 some deaths. 300 deaths....hell that is just a couple good mass shootings. (sorry bad joke).
Here my fear is that as soon as they open up casinos and put people back together cases explode. Almost has to doesn't it? And it isn't even about getting the virus. I have had the virus and maybe have some protection. What if I am in a car accident or involved in a shooting or anything medical emergency requiring medical attention and the hospitals are all overwhelmed with Covid cases. All the ICU beds are full. The nurses and doctors all overworked working 80-100 hours a week and them getting sick on top of everything. That is the concern.
And while I don't know Montana's hospital ICU bed situation, I would imagine it isn't very much and wouldn't take all that much for it to become overwhelmed. So what if you need medical attention? God forbid have another heart issue or complication?
I am not making a case for shutting down for 2 years, because I don't want that. I don't know what the answer is because the thing isn't going away. And I hope I am wrong about that, but it isnt the way these viruses work. They go away when they go away, not when people will them to go away.
We've been reopened for a month. We've had no positives in the last 3,157 tests. Redietz doom & gloom prediction for Montana is just not happening.
Montana is a microcosm of the rest of the country. With the right precautions in place the virus is not flaring up with the reopening.
So in Miami, the FL governor had a presser today, for Supreme Court appointments. A few questions came up. In Miami the mortality rate now stands at .14%. The CDC announced nationwide the rate is .26%. Why is this not broadcast far and wide? Simple, democrats need dead bodies to subvert President Trump, there is no other answer.
By the way, cranking out the calculator, the original guess was 3.4% or 11.2 million dead. New number via CDC is 858,000. This is all assuming we all get it. Bottom line Corona is 2.6 times more deadly than common flu, certainly not worth destroying the national economy.
Good Point and I agree but the snowball has already started down the mountain and has turned into an Avalanche.Quote:
Originally Posted by House of Orange
Now it's basically two sides yelling at each other.
One side believes we have to hide in our homes and get Free Everything.
The other side wants to go back to the way it was.
Nobody wins except the people selling PPP and the ones who make the rules.
Something has to be done!!!! Something has to be done!!!! We have to stay at home!!!! We have to stay at home!!!! Pretty soon there is going to be only 99.98% of us left!!!!
It will be interesting to see. The lockdowns worked too well. Literally impossible for those who made that decision look like they did the right thing to many of a certain mental persuasion. Even if you guys are right and we see a decrease because of summer this thing will be back during the winter.
We've had a flare-up of coronavirus cases in Montana the last few days. All the new cases are coming out of Big Horn County which is where the Crow Indian Reservation is. There was a case found then contact tracing found the rest. Of the 28 active cases in Montana 18 of them are in Big Horn County. Current stats are 493 cases out of 38,529 tests. Only 2 active hospitalizations.
Because of lightly populated rural areas contact tracing is an easy thing to do in Montana and it nips the spread of the virus in the bud.
What do you mean “worked too well?” If the cases continued to grow while everybody was locked down in their basements that would be one scary virus. We’d have the first virus known to mankind that spreads without human contact.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
The question we’ll never be able to answer is what would have happened if we’d locked gamma and grampa in the baesment and the rest of us got to go about our lives somewhat normally. We’d probably have a couple more cases, and yes, some people with preexisting conditions might have died (unless they decided to lock themselves in the basement too), but the economy wouldn’t have gone in the toilet.
There were no easy choices, but the reaction of locking everybody down was definitely overkill.
You dumb fucking fool, the CDC is no longer doing its job. It is fake science. Thats why.Quote:
Originally Posted by House of Orange
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Originally Posted by Bob21What do you mean “worked too well?” If the cases continued to grow while everybody was locked down in their basements that would be one scary virus. We’d have the first virus known to mankind that spreads without human contact.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
The question we’ll never be able to answer is what would have happened if we’d locked gamma and grampa in the baesment and the rest of us got to go about our lives somewhat normally. We’d probably have a couple more cases, and yes, some people with preexisting conditions might have died (unless they decided to lock themselves in the basement too), but the economy wouldn’t have gone in the toilet.
There were no easy choices, but the reaction of locking everybody down was definitely overkill.
The lockdown cut down on virus, then all the bozos come out and say "oh it was never a problem". Likely not enough people caught it either for any sort of herd immunity. So we're in same spot we were.
You can't lock up grandpa and grandma. Caretakers have kids. Schools. You're a fool if you think doing nothing would have led some a much better conclusion. I have no clue, but at least I'm smart enough to get that. Your kid is sick, you got to go to work, because this is America. You going to fret over losing your job and taking care of your kid, or send him to school? (Although that isn't a good example, given kids are asymptomatic.)
The biases of you Trump voters are on a new level from anythng I've seen in my lifetime.
There are places that have beat this, NZ, and some asian countries. Japan. The people there haven't been fed a constant stream of bullshit though and likely choose leaders based on competence and now showmanship.
Not in the good ol USA. Being a dumb mother fucker is a badge of honor! Everyone is a bigger expert than the experts, because they *know* its bullshit. Yea yea.
My take on the whole thing is we had to do what we did based on the situation, and no knowing much at that time. For the most part, I haven’t been critical of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionQuote:
Originally Posted by Bob21What do you mean “worked too well?” If the cases continued to grow while everybody was locked down in their basements that would be one scary virus. We’d have the first virus known to mankind that spreads without human contact.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
The question we’ll never be able to answer is what would have happened if we’d locked gamma and grampa in the baesment and the rest of us got to go about our lives somewhat normally. We’d probably have a couple more cases, and yes, some people with preexisting conditions might have died (unless they decided to lock themselves in the basement too), but the economy wouldn’t have gone in the toilet.
There were no easy choices, but the reaction of locking everybody down was definitely overkill.
The lockdown cut down on virus, then all the bozos come out and say "oh it was never a problem". Likely not enough people caught it either for any sort of herd immunity. So we're in same spot we were.
You can't lock up grandpa and grandma. Caretakers have kids. Schools. You're a fool if you think doing nothing would have led some a much better conclusion. I have no clue, but at least I'm smart enough to get that. Your kid is sick, you got to go to work, because this is America. You going to fret over losing your job and taking care of your kid, or send him to school? (Although that isn't a good example, given kids are asymptomatic.)
The biases of you Trump voters are on a new level from anythng I've seen in my lifetime.
There are places that have beat this, NZ, and some asian countries. Japan. The people there haven't been fed a constant stream of bullshit though and likely choose leaders based on competence and now showmanship.
Not in the good ol USA. Being a dumb mother fucker is a badge of honor! Everyone is a bigger expert than the experts, because they *know* its bullshit. Yea yea.
I was more critical of the people who wanted to extend the lockdown, beyond anything reasonable. I mean some of the liberals on tv were talking about 2 years. CNN would have so called experts on, and each one would talk about it like it was Armageddon and we’d be locked down forever.
The liberals never seemed to acknowledge that most people weren’t at risk. And when they’d report deaths, they didn’t like to report their ages. You’d have thought just random healthy people were dieing like flies and that was not the case.
Could we have opened up earlier? Probably. But I’m not gonna crible with a month here or there.
The states that were going to extreme measures like Michigan and California were the ones people made the most fun of. Even Saturday Night Live did a skit on Michigan’s govern. When a liberal spoofs another liberal, you know the first liberal has gone over the edge. And the states that sent the National Gaurd to people’s homes looking for vistors from NY, yeah was a little over the top.
I thought Trump handled it about right, and his press conferences were a hoot. He even played doctor in a couple of them, which got the libs screaming. I think he did that moslty to get under their skin. Libs like to attack his slightest little misstatement and run with it. Common Joe Blow doesn’t care. Trump knows that so he has fun with the press.
It is fascinating. I read every paragraph and you seem completely reasonable then Trump comes up. If there is Trump Derangement Syndrome then surely there must be Trump Love Syndrome. You give Trump way too much credit. He says shit that he thinks will appeal to his base. He double downed on his hydroquoliniene intake because his narcissism forced him to save face. He doesn't give a fuck about his followers. Howard Stern who has known Trump decades has it right. Trump wouldn't want his average follower in his hotels. Trump wouldn't want to associate with them or have anyhting to do with them, yet the fawn over him. Crazy shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob21My take on the whole thing is we had to do what we did based on the situation, and no knowing much at that time. For the most part, I haven’t been critical of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionQuote:
Originally Posted by Bob21
The lockdown cut down on virus, then all the bozos come out and say "oh it was never a problem". Likely not enough people caught it either for any sort of herd immunity. So we're in same spot we were.
You can't lock up grandpa and grandma. Caretakers have kids. Schools. You're a fool if you think doing nothing would have led some a much better conclusion. I have no clue, but at least I'm smart enough to get that. Your kid is sick, you got to go to work, because this is America. You going to fret over losing your job and taking care of your kid, or send him to school? (Although that isn't a good example, given kids are asymptomatic.)
The biases of you Trump voters are on a new level from anythng I've seen in my lifetime.
There are places that have beat this, NZ, and some asian countries. Japan. The people there haven't been fed a constant stream of bullshit though and likely choose leaders based on competence and now showmanship.
Not in the good ol USA. Being a dumb mother fucker is a badge of honor! Everyone is a bigger expert than the experts, because they *know* its bullshit. Yea yea.
I was more critical of the people who wanted to extend the lockdown, beyond anything reasonable. I mean some of the liberals on tv were talking about 2 years. CNN would have so called experts on, and each one would talk about it like it was Armageddon and we’d be locked down forever.
The liberals never seemed to acknowledge that most people weren’t at risk. And when they’d report deaths, they didn’t like to report their ages. You’d have thought just random healthy people were dieing like flies and that was not the case.
Could we have opened up earlier? Probably. But I’m not gonna crible with a month here or there.
The states that were going to extreme measures like Michigan and California were the ones people made the most fun of. Even Saturday Night Live did a skit on Michigan’s govern. When a liberal spoofs another liberal, you know the first liberal has gone over the edge. And the states that sent the National Gaurd to people’s homes looking for vistors from NY, yeah was a little over the top.
I thought Trump handled it about right, and his press conferences were a hoot. He even played doctor in a couple of them, which got the libs screaming. I think he did that moslty to get under their skin. Libs like to attack his slightest little misstatement and run with it. Common Joe Blow doesn’t care. Trump knows that so he has fun with the press.
Here’s why you and Haward Stern don’t get it. We all know that. Heck, Trump trades in his wife for a new model every couple years. Trump likes to mix with the wealth and elite, but he gets the working man, something the Dems don’t understand.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionIt is fascinating. I read every paragraph and you seem completely reasonable then Trump comes up. If there is Trump Derangement Syndrome then surely there must be Trump Love Syndrome. You give Trump way too much credit. He says shit that he thinks will appeal to his base. He double downed on his hydroquoliniene intake because his narcissism forced him to save face. He doesn't give a fuck about his followers. Howard Stern who has known Trump decades has it right. Trump wouldn't want his average follower in his hotels. Trump wouldn't want to associate with them or have anyhting to do with them, yet the fawn over him. Crazy shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob21My take on the whole thing is we had to do what we did based on the situation, and no knowing much at that time. For the most part, I haven’t been critical of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
I was more critical of the people who wanted to extend the lockdown, beyond anything reasonable. I mean some of the liberals on tv were talking about 2 years. CNN would have so called experts on, and each one would talk about it like it was Armageddon and we’d be locked down forever.
The liberals never seemed to acknowledge that most people weren’t at risk. And when they’d report deaths, they didn’t like to report their ages. You’d have thought just random healthy people were dieing like flies and that was not the case.
Could we have opened up earlier? Probably. But I’m not gonna crible with a month here or there.
The states that were going to extreme measures like Michigan and California were the ones people made the most fun of. Even Saturday Night Live did a skit on Michigan’s govern. When a liberal spoofs another liberal, you know the first liberal has gone over the edge. And the states that sent the National Gaurd to people’s homes looking for vistors from NY, yeah was a little over the top.
I thought Trump handled it about right, and his press conferences were a hoot. He even played doctor in a couple of them, which got the libs screaming. I think he did that moslty to get under their skin. Libs like to attack his slightest little misstatement and run with it. Common Joe Blow doesn’t care. Trump knows that so he has fun with the press.
Why do we like him? Because of his policies and his belief in America. Because he says what middle American believes. Because he’s not PC. Because he doesn’t go around the world appoligizing for America like Omba did.
Trump’s biggest supportest are the religious right. Trump probably wouldn’t want to hang out with most of them, and they know that. Why do they like Trump then? Because he came through with his Supreme Court nomination, because of his policy, etc. Becaue he’s 5,000 times better than the alternative.
You see conservatives aren’t shallow, like libs and the Dems. Conservatives evaluate policitians based on their actions, not based on if they think he’d want to hang out with them.
Libs base their decision based on superficial things, like gender. That’s why Biden has to find a women.
Well even if you do know all know it, it is crazy. He doesn't represent you or your interests, only when by random chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob21Here’s why you and Haward Stern don’t get it. We all know that. Heck, Trump trades in his wife for a new model every couple years. Trump likes to mix with the wealth and elite, but he gets the working man, something the Dems don’t understand.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionIt is fascinating. I read every paragraph and you seem completely reasonable then Trump comes up. If there is Trump Derangement Syndrome then surely there must be Trump Love Syndrome. You give Trump way too much credit. He says shit that he thinks will appeal to his base. He double downed on his hydroquoliniene intake because his narcissism forced him to save face. He doesn't give a fuck about his followers. Howard Stern who has known Trump decades has it right. Trump wouldn't want his average follower in his hotels. Trump wouldn't want to associate with them or have anyhting to do with them, yet the fawn over him. Crazy shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob21
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Libs base their decision based on superficial things, like gender. That’s why Biden has to find a women.
He gives the ambassador to wealthy donators like no other President ever had. What policy is that? Draining the swamp? I get rich people like cool unique vacations, but this *is* our country.
I tend to hate the identity politics of the vocal left and many democrats. Yet Trump will say or do anything. He's brought this country to a new low. I hope we recover and he hasn't set some standard and our country just become a corrupt shithole from here on out.
Trump was motivated the night Obama made fun of him. He would go around making birther comments to get air time, then Obama takes shots at him at whitehouse correspondance dinner, it disturbed his narcissism at the core. That motivated him to get elected and then motivated him to have 2 singular points. Get relected and remove anything positive Obama ever did. That sums up Trump. I would find it hard to believe a man as petty as Trump has ever been elected to the PResidency before him.
Like he won't take pictures with his fat daughter and things. I just can't begin to fathom this guy. He's so disgusting he couldn't find a successful American woman, so he's went mail-order most of the time. It goes on and on.. but he panders like no one else. He plays that game very well.
One thing I like about Trump though is I do like being against free-trade. My opinion has changed a bit over the past few years. My problem is that it monkeys with the free-market and plays favorites. It is also a tax on the American people. So it hasn't been all bad.. just the vast majority of his policies are shit just like the man himself
Have you noticed who is violating the lockdown in these liberal cities the last few days? The hard left has said "fuck the lockdown." They are out there rioting, looting, and, because of no social distancing, spreading coronavirus. These are the same people that vilified Trump supporters for wanting to end the lockdown. Talk about hypocrites. That word is not strong enough to describe what these idiots are doing. And no liberal politicians are calling them on it.
The hard left has now officially ended the lockdown.
In fairness there is a thing called science. Where the smartest guys usually form some form of consensus. While there is an element of hypocrite here, it is also known that outdoors is far better than indoors where air is recirculated.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
So that’s why they’re rioting. So they can enjoy the outdoors together, where they aren’t at as much risk catching coronavirus.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionIn fairness there is a thing called science. Where the smartest guys usually form some form of consensus. While there is an element of hypocrite here, it is also known that outdoors is far better than indoors where air is recirculated.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
I guess this type of logic makes sense if you’re a liberal. Lol
Updated Coronavirus Lockdown Rules - Churchgoers must continue to follow the old Lockdown rules, no crowds bigger than ten persons. Meanwhile, ganging up thousands strong to loot and pillage the downtown areas of liberal run towns is permitted.
Yeah Mick it’s totally permitted now. All those mayors and governors flapping their lips about social distancing are running like the French now. And when the covid numbers spike they’ll blame trump.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Redietz must be having a blast. The riots will cause a 2nd wave of coronavirus and he gets to watch his revolutionary brothers, Antifa, rape, pillage and plunder.Quote:
Originally Posted by dannyjYeah Mick it’s totally permitted now. All those mayors and governors flapping their lips about social distancing are running like the French now. And when the covid numbers spike they’ll blame trump.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Some more deceptive propaganda from Redietz wbo passes himself off as some kind of sports handicapper but has never put up any evidence of it. Oh, he had a winning season 30 years ago!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
He blames Trump for faulty coronavirus numbers back in early March. Well, so were Redietz' numbers. For some reason Redietz thinks the president of the united states is supposed to be an infectious disease expert. He's not. Where was Trump getting his numbers? Who was there? Fauci and Birx. Has redietz ever blamed those two for anything. That's where Trump was getting the numbers. A week after Trump shutdown air travel from China Fauci was still telling us we had nothing to fear from the virus. Has redietz ever mentioned that? No, it doesn't fit his narrative. Redietz so deep down in his marxist heart wants to blame Trump for everything.
Another bit of misinformation by redietz is that the number of deaths has been lowballed. Another bit of fantasy. At the hospital, if a person dies from a heart attack, or cancer or sepsis or anything but covid 19 the hospital gets nothing. If a person dies from Covid the hospital gets 1.2 million from the feds. So what do you think the hospital is going to report the death as? This is a no brainer. Some of the more peculiar reportings are a person dying from a primary cause off covid 19 and a secondary cause of a bullet in the head. You can't make this shit up. The real number of covid deaths is probably about half of what has been reported.
Now, we also have to knock off this nonsense that we are dealing with some kind of a professional in redietz. He has never proven any expertise in sports betting and his "gambling blog" is just socialist propaganda that has nothing to do with sports.
Redietz, you don't really think I'm going to click thru all those propaganda links do you?Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Good to see RED back. I wonder how he feels about all the looters and “protesters” out in large groups?
Sounds like 1918 to me, whatever the fuck he ever thought about that.
After the PC Police figured out the Virus was a Scam they are back in Full Force.
They got some Soccer Announcer, Drew Brees and others.
The newest iteration is LEGO.
It's a Dark Day in America when you can't even buy these LEGOs!
"Dark Day" was not meant to be a derogatory reference to people of color.
How I feel about it is laid out in the blog entry below, and will be expanded upon in later entries.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
I don't think, by the way, that you need to put quotations around "protestors," unless you're privy to some insights not available to the general public. I had a similar debate regarding use of quotation marks around the word "right" in my blog conclusion, and chose to use the quotes because "right" that costs lives isn't always right, and "right" is often in the eye of the beholder. But I think protestors are protestors when you're talking tens of thousands of people of all ethnicities. Kind of puts the Harrisburg "freedom" rally in perspective.
https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...ents-part.html
At long last ditz would you change the name of your blog. It has nothing to do with casino gambling. And your marxism shines through.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzHow I feel about it is laid out in the blog entry below, and will be expanded upon in later entries.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
I don't think, by the way, that you need to put quotations around "protestors," unless you're privy to some insights not available to the general public. I had a similar debate regarding use of quotation marks around the word "right" in my blog conclusion, and chose to use the quotes because "right" that costs lives isn't always right, and "right" is often in the eye of the beholder. But I think protestors are protestors when you're talking tens of thousands of people of all ethnicities. Kind of puts the Harrisburg "freedom" rally in perspective.
https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...ents-part.html
We accept deaths as part of the everyday risks we take, be it walking down the street, driving a car, etc. The Bering Sea kills fishermen every year just so you can eat fish. You never wrote about any of that being wrong although you had years here to do it. But all of a sudden this covid thing has you shutting down the economy to save lives. No amount of deaths is acceptable to you. Why weren't you for shutting things down to save lives before this covid epidemic? This covid thing has consumed you to the point you are a fanatic.
DarkOz, Redietz and Billryan approved these problems to save a few Americans.
As poor countries around the world struggle to beat back the Chink Virus...
They are unintentionally contributing to fresh explosions of illness and death from other diseases.
Ones that are readily prevented by vaccines.
Diphtheria is appearing in Pakistan, Bangladesh and Nepal.
Cholera is in South Sudan, Cameroon, Mozambique, Yemen and Bangladesh.
A mutated strain of Polio Virus has been reported in more than 30 countries.
And measles is flaring around the globe, including Bangladesh, Brazil, Cambodia, Central African Republic, Iraq, Kazakhstan, Nepal, Nigeria and Uzbekistan.
Of 29 countries that have suspended measles campaigns because of the pandemic, 18 are reporting outbreaks.
An additional 13 countries are considering postponement.
According to the Measles and Rubella Initiative, 178 million people are at risk of missing measles shots in 2020.
The risk now is “an epidemic in a few months’ time that will kill more children than COVID,” said Chibuzo Okonta, president of Doctors Without Borders in West and Central Africa.
Shut down the world and cause 178 Million People to miss their measles shots!
Who Cares?
Shit Happens.
Life Goes On!
Fuck It!
Let us Abort Some more Fetuses because Abortion is an Essential Business!!
Generally, in the US, abortion is an option from very early pregnancy (somewhere between 4-6 weeks, depending on where you go) until about 24 weeks!
Abortions are available later than 24 weeks only in rare cases for medical reasons.
24 Weeks Huh?
Fuck Me!
Many of the deaths from measles and diphtheria will probably be classified as Covid-19 deaths. Also, as others pointed out, if people congregate for a BLM rally there is no worry that the Covid-19 virus will spread. It only spreads if people congregate to protest Covid-19 lockdowns.Quote:
Originally Posted by monet
One of my dogs haven't been feeling well but I think she is out of the woods now.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
If she threw up one more time I was going to take her to the Vet.
I figured I would have to hear how my dog tested positive for the Chinese Flu.
My other dog is completely fine but I am sure they would say he is asymptomatic lol.
Glad to hear she is likely out of the woods Monet.Quote:
Originally Posted by monetOne of my dogs haven't been feeling well but I think she is out of the woods now.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
If she threw up one more time I was going to take her to the Vet.
I figured I would have to hear how my dog tested positive for the Chinese Flu.
My other dog is completely fine but I am sure they would say he is asymptomatic lol.
This is what CV deaths by the day look like. The peak was May 6 with 2,701 deaths. It's been a steady decline ever since. Yesterday, June 24 there were 688 deaths. The media and fear mongers keep on with the doom and gloom but this graph that you can view on worldometers by googling "coronavirus deaths by day" will let us know if there is a spike. The number of deaths per day is the real story.
The economic shutdown led to punk kids with nothing to do burning and looting businesses under the guise of "protesting." The result being that many of the businesses are gone forever. The prediction is the buildings in the area of CHOP will have just a 20% occupancy rate when the protestors leave.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzHow I feel about it is laid out in the blog entry below, and will be expanded upon in later entries.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
I don't think, by the way, that you need to put quotations around "protestors," unless you're privy to some insights not available to the general public. I had a similar debate regarding use of quotation marks around the word "right" in my blog conclusion, and chose to use the quotes because "right" that costs lives isn't always right, and "right" is often in the eye of the beholder. But I think protestors are protestors when you're talking tens of thousands of people of all ethnicities. Kind of puts the Harrisburg "freedom" rally in perspective.
https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...ents-part.html
Through all of redietz arguments the one thing he never addresses is the freedom of the individual. I never would have believed this if I hadn't seen it with my own eyes, All my life I've been told--and was under the impression--that I am free.
I found out I can be ordered to shut down my business without warning. I found out I can be ordered not to go to work. I found out I can be ordered to not come out of my place of abode. All under penalty of law. And while I'm under house arrest another group of people can get away with congregating up then burning and looting cities. Their being allowed to do so for political reasons.
If you would have told me all this could occur in America before it happened I would have told you that you are having delusions. No way it could occur. I was wrong as shit. I've found out that I don't live in the land of the free and the home of the brave. I found out that I am not free. I found out that it's all bullshit. I found out that the state has complete control over me.
And idiots like redietz have 101 reasons why I shouldn't have any rights. It's for the common good, right, redietz, you bag of fucking marxist shit.
Robert Dietz’ continual insistence that poor people be denied jobs over covid-19 violates all sense of decency. He should be tarred and feathered and ran out of town.
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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Good to know that "number of deaths per day" is the real story, as per mickey crimm. I don't know about you, but to me, 700 per day deaths does not seem like winning, unless you're Charlie Sheen.
There is no trick to this. The reduction in deaths was directly attributable to the shutdowns and younger people now getting the disease. Previously, deaths trailed hospitalizations by three to four weeks. As health professionals have gotten a handle on what works and what does not (method of intubation, for example, and how patients should be positioned while intubated), the lag has increased a bit. Previously, patients average length on a ventilator was roughly 21/22 days. If you were on that long, you were probably going to die.
So in case anyone is still reading the posts of one of the original "COVID-19 is a scam" folks, with his "only" 688 deaths yesterday schtick, here's the deal.
Reduction in deaths was directly attributable to shutdowns and social distancing.
With Memorial Day, the end of shutdowns, and the start of both church-going and protests all roughly three weeks ago, it figured to take three to four weeks for virus cases to dramatically increase. Here they are, exactly on schedule.
With the cases increasing, the death rates will start climbing in another three to four weeks after the usual lag time.
What mickey is quoting is exactly what should be happening, according to epidemiologists. What's silly about mickey's assertion is that, with cases currently exploding, people should celebrate the "low" death rate. That's great...for another three to four weeks. Then the death rate will start to climb again.
Now, a question. Before this entire COVID-19 thing got underway, would anyone have thought mickey would be claiming 700 deaths a day was a good thing? What exactly is mickey's metric on this? Would 1000 deaths a day be a sign the U.S. has this under control? What is mickey suggesting? That re-opening is "working" because the U.S. has "only" 700 deaths in a day?
More importantly, why would the U.S. opt for a shutdown a month SHORTER than Italy or Spain's shutdowns, which were harsher? What is it about the U.S. economy that is so fragile? What is it that makes U.S. citizenry uniquely unable to spend an extra four to six weeks in lockdown as opposed to, say, Italy or South Korea or New Zealand? Are Americans all snowflakes?
The projection now is for 180,000 dead by the end of September. I think that's low. I've been correct every single time. We'll see if I'm correct again. Fatality rates should go down some, with younger people infected and health care professionals having some experience under their belts. But the 180,000 is still low.
Also to consider, mickey's assertion that all that matters now is deaths. For those people who are taking months to recover, or who have permanent lung damage, it's a big deal. This is not a live-long-and-healthy-after-recovery or die disease.
Mickey has consistently been wrong and consistently given terrible advice. With any luck, no one is reading this thread any longer. I mean, what happens next? Mickey explains how 200,000 dead is winning because the death rate is low?
Mickey, you have really done people a disservice who are trying to figure out the virus. Why don't you tell everyone what "losing" would look like? What metric would be required for you to say that early re-opening was a bad idea? Take your time and lay it out. How many dead or infected would convince you that the U.S. does not really know what it's doing as compared to South Korea or New Zealand or Japan or Italy, which really butchered things at first? What numbers would lead you to say the U.S. has done a bad job? I think the UK and Brazil have done as poorly as the U.S., but that's about it. You have any other candidates?
"My cousin knows someone that has a friend that knew a person that worked in healthcare so I know everything about this issue." Robert DietzQuote:
Originally Posted by redietzQuote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Good to know that "number of deaths per day" is the real story, as per mickey crimm. I don't know about you, but to me, 700 per day deaths does not seem like winning, unless you're Charlie Sheen.
There is no trick to this. The reduction in deaths was directly attributable to the shutdowns and younger people now getting the disease. Previously, deaths trailed hospitalizations by three to four weeks. As health professionals have gotten a handle on what works and what does not (method of intubation, for example, and how patients should be positioned while intubated), the lag has increased a bit. Previously, patients average length on a ventilator was roughly 21/22 days. If you were on that long, you were probably going to die.
So in case anyone is still reading the posts of one of the original "COVID-19 is a scam" folks, with his "only" 688 deaths yesterday schtick, here's the deal.
Reduction in deaths was directly attributable to shutdowns and social distancing.
With Memorial Day, the end of shutdowns, and the start of both church-going and protests all roughly three weeks ago, it figured to take three to four weeks for virus cases to dramatically increase. Here they are, exactly on schedule.
With the cases increasing, the death rates will start climbing in another three to four weeks after the usual lag time.
What mickey is quoting is exactly what should be happening, according to epidemiologists. What's silly about mickey's assertion is that, with cases currently exploding, people should celebrate the "low" death rate. That's great...for another three to four weeks. Then the death rate will start to climb again.
Now, a question. Before this entire COVID-19 thing got underway, would anyone have thought mickey would be claiming 700 deaths a day was a good thing? What exactly is mickey's metric on this? Would 1000 deaths a day be a sign the U.S. has this under control? What is mickey suggesting? That re-opening is "working" because the U.S. has "only" 700 deaths in a day?
More importantly, why would the U.S. opt for a shutdown a month SHORTER than Italy or Spain's shutdowns, which were harsher? What is it about the U.S. economy that is so fragile? What is it that makes U.S. citizenry uniquely unable to spend an extra four to six weeks in lockdown as opposed to, say, Italy or South Korea or New Zealand? Are Americans all snowflakes?
The projection now is for 180,000 dead by the end of September. I think that's low. I've been correct every single time. We'll see if I'm correct again. Fatality rates should go down some, with younger people infected and health care professionals having some experience under their belts. But the 180,000 is still low.
Also to consider, mickey's assertion that all that matters now is deaths. For those people who are taking months to recover, or who have permanent lung damage, it's a big deal. This is not a live-long-and-healthy-after-recovery or die disease.
Mickey has consistently been wrong and consistently given terrible advice. With any luck, no one is reading this thread any longer. I mean, what happens next? Mickey explains how 200,000 dead is winning because the death rate is low?
Mickey, you have really done people a disservice who are trying to figure out the virus. Why don't you tell everyone what "losing" would look like? What metric would be required for you to say that early re-opening was a bad idea? Take your time and lay it out. How many dead or infected would convince you that the U.S. does not really know what it's doing as compared to South Korea or New Zealand or Japan or Italy, which really butchered things at first? What numbers would lead you to say the U.S. has done a bad job? I think the UK and Brazil have done as poorly as the U.S., but that's about it. You have any other candidates?
The shutdown got sold to us as a flattening of the curve so we wouldn't run out of hospital beds. We didn't run out of beds anywhere. We didn't run out of ventilators as fear monger redietz said we would.
So we get thru the curve and what do fear mongers and/or left wing zealots say? "No! No! No! we have to stay shutdown until we find a vaccine!!!! Till we find a cure!!! We never meant it was just to get thru the curve." Hey fuck those idiots. 688 deaths is just a fraction of the peak at 2700 per day. You got that Dietz? But if you listen to fucks like Robert Dietz he can play that sympathy shit from here until doomsday.
There's 909,000 people in Montana and we've had exactly 92 hospitalizations for CV over a three month period. That's it!!! Meanwhile we have 1100 hospital beds. They went mostly empty during the shutdown. Hospitals lost money. Doctors and nurses layed off.
Snowflakes, Dietz? The snowflakes are in New Zealand, South Korea and Italy. They let their punk ass leaders run over their asses and keep them locked up.
FREEEDOM, BITCH! FREEDOM, DIETZ!!!!! YOU GOT IT, DIETZ!!! FUCK YOUR SHUTDOWN!!!! FREEDOM, DIETZ!!!! FREEDOM, BITCH!!!!
Try harping as bad on the "protestors" (looters, robbers, arsonists, anarchists) that certainly spread the virus around as you harp on me.
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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm"My cousin knows someone that has a friend that knew a person that worked in healthcare so I know everything about this issue." Robert DietzQuote:
Originally Posted by redietzQuote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Good to know that "number of deaths per day" is the real story, as per mickey crimm. I don't know about you, but to me, 700 per day deaths does not seem like winning, unless you're Charlie Sheen.
There is no trick to this. The reduction in deaths was directly attributable to the shutdowns and younger people now getting the disease. Previously, deaths trailed hospitalizations by three to four weeks. As health professionals have gotten a handle on what works and what does not (method of intubation, for example, and how patients should be positioned while intubated), the lag has increased a bit. Previously, patients average length on a ventilator was roughly 21/22 days. If you were on that long, you were probably going to die.
So in case anyone is still reading the posts of one of the original "COVID-19 is a scam" folks, with his "only" 688 deaths yesterday schtick, here's the deal.
Reduction in deaths was directly attributable to shutdowns and social distancing.
With Memorial Day, the end of shutdowns, and the start of both church-going and protests all roughly three weeks ago, it figured to take three to four weeks for virus cases to dramatically increase. Here they are, exactly on schedule.
With the cases increasing, the death rates will start climbing in another three to four weeks after the usual lag time.
What mickey is quoting is exactly what should be happening, according to epidemiologists. What's silly about mickey's assertion is that, with cases currently exploding, people should celebrate the "low" death rate. That's great...for another three to four weeks. Then the death rate will start to climb again.
Now, a question. Before this entire COVID-19 thing got underway, would anyone have thought mickey would be claiming 700 deaths a day was a good thing? What exactly is mickey's metric on this? Would 1000 deaths a day be a sign the U.S. has this under control? What is mickey suggesting? That re-opening is "working" because the U.S. has "only" 700 deaths in a day?
More importantly, why would the U.S. opt for a shutdown a month SHORTER than Italy or Spain's shutdowns, which were harsher? What is it about the U.S. economy that is so fragile? What is it that makes U.S. citizenry uniquely unable to spend an extra four to six weeks in lockdown as opposed to, say, Italy or South Korea or New Zealand? Are Americans all snowflakes?
The projection now is for 180,000 dead by the end of September. I think that's low. I've been correct every single time. We'll see if I'm correct again. Fatality rates should go down some, with younger people infected and health care professionals having some experience under their belts. But the 180,000 is still low.
Also to consider, mickey's assertion that all that matters now is deaths. For those people who are taking months to recover, or who have permanent lung damage, it's a big deal. This is not a live-long-and-healthy-after-recovery or die disease.
Mickey has consistently been wrong and consistently given terrible advice. With any luck, no one is reading this thread any longer. I mean, what happens next? Mickey explains how 200,000 dead is winning because the death rate is low?
Mickey, you have really done people a disservice who are trying to figure out the virus. Why don't you tell everyone what "losing" would look like? What metric would be required for you to say that early re-opening was a bad idea? Take your time and lay it out. How many dead or infected would convince you that the U.S. does not really know what it's doing as compared to South Korea or New Zealand or Japan or Italy, which really butchered things at first? What numbers would lead you to say the U.S. has done a bad job? I think the UK and Brazil have done as poorly as the U.S., but that's about it. You have any other candidates?
The shutdown got sold to us as a flattening of the curve so we wouldn't run out of hospital beds. We didn't run out of beds anywhere. We didn't run out of ventilators as fear monger redietz said we would.
So we get thru the curve and what do fear mongers and/or left wing zealots say? "No! No! No! we have to stay shutdown until we find a vaccine!!!! Till we find a cure!!! We never meant it was just to get thru the curve." Hey fuck those idiots. 688 deaths is just a fraction of the peak at 2700 per day. You got that Dietz? But if you listen to fucks like Robert Dietz he can play that sympathy shit from here until doomsday.
There's 909,000 people in Montana and we've had exactly 92 hospitalizations for CV over a three month period. That's it!!! Meanwhile we have 1100 hospital beds. They went mostly empty during the shutdown. Hospitals lost money. Doctors and nurses layed off.
Snowflakes, Dietz? The snowflakes are in New Zealand, South Korea and Italy. They let their punk ass leaders run over their asses and keep them locked up.
FREEEDOM, BITCH! FREEDOM, DIETZ!!!!! YOU GOT IT, DIETZ!!! FUCK YOUR SHUTDOWN!!!! FREEDOM, DIETZ!!!! FREEDOM, BITCH!!!!
Try harping as bad on the "protestors" (looters, robbers, arsonists, anarchists) that certainly spread the virus around as you harp on me.
I don't know much of anything about COVID-19, except how to listen to experts and evaluate evidence. And yeah, my girlfriend has a friend who was recruited to work on the vaccine, and yeah, my girlfriend's daughter has a doctorate that is technically about how to push new medicines through the evaluation process, but those just add context to my very simple perspective: I listen to the scientists. You should try it sometime.
Mickey, you've gotten everything about the virus wrong. I mean, really, it's been embarrassing.
Like your 700 per-day death rate, take a victory lap nonsense. So check today's tallies, my friend. To use a famous and appropriate line, "Houston, we have a problem."
Greetings from the politburo. Good job, comrade. You are doing great things for the revolution. With continued efforts like yours we will soon bring the capitalist pigs to their knees. Long live the revolution!Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Now, we have another job for you. Go to Seattle to the CHOP ZONE. The useful idiot protestors there have outlived their usefulness to the revolution. We have reassessed their value to the revolution. We need you to go there and start passing out job applications. At the prospect of going to work they will all scatter to the hills.
Power to the people!!! Keep up the good work, comrade.
Commie pinko bastard is batting 1.000 on after the fact “predictions” about being “right on schedule.” Just wait for the fourth wave that’s still the first wave Mickey, going to be super duper deadly.
We all have a better chance of dying from the Protesters (Rioters) compared to the Kung Fu Flu.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcap
Most of chocolate Monet's posts involve death because the poor bugger wants so much to really and actually live. Hehehe.
As a public service, I'll correct you, mcap. Predictions I made were publicly posted, publicly dated, and read by many on my blog. I'll check in here July 4th, since I made a public prediction that the U.S. would hit 137,000 deaths on July 4th. Here you go. You can compare my prediction with the IHME model used by the White House a the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcap
https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...and-dying.html
Note, if you will, the May 7th date.
Also, in terms of things being right on schedule, please note:
https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...h-fudging.html
Note, if you will, the May 20th date. As I say in the opening line, "You can fudge numbers. You can't fudge reality. All you can do is obstruct the view."
And here's the July 4th prediction:
https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...-go-again.html
Note the May 10 date. We'll see how accurate this prediction turns out. I'll check in July 4th.
I'll be more than happy to point out the other not-so-remarkable but accurate predictions. All you had to do was listen to the scientists and avoid Fox News. Not exactly rocket science.
Always glad to provide the rational, folks.
Sorry not clicking on links to alt left propoganda blogs. I think I kind of understand how the exponential math works thanks to LMR though. Something like 1+1=2, buckle my shoe. 2+1=3, 3+2=5 buckle up buttercup. 137+163=300
Here's a quick read on the numbers of deaths and new cases. Just toggle, from the former to the latter.
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C...4dUDCAw&uact=5
Some other trivia. A full moon coming up, July 5th. I wondered about the distance between full moons, between the same days of the same months. I tried one day on one month, and found that it's a low multiple of nineteen years. Either 19, 38, or 57 years. Why the heck nineteen?
http://home.hiwaay.net/~krcool/Astro...llmoon.htm#top
So Fauci said we had nothing to fear. Then he said don't wear masks. Then he said we had something to fear. Then he said wear masks. Is that the scientist you've been listening to Comrade Dietz? Which Fauci should we have listened to, the one that said don't fear, or the one that said fear. And guess what, Fox News showed all those film clips of what Fauci said. I guess that's what you mean about watching Fox News. They were letting flip-flopping scientists speak.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzAs a public service, I'll correct you, mcap. Predictions I made were publicly posted, publicly dated, and read by many on my blog. I'll check in here July 4th, since I made a public prediction that the U.S. would hit 137,000 deaths on July 4th. Here you go. You can compare my prediction with the IHME model used by the White House a the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcap
https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...and-dying.html
Note, if you will, the May 7th date.
Also, in terms of things being right on schedule, please note:
https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...h-fudging.html
Note, if you will, the May 20th date. As I say in the opening line, "You can fudge numbers. You can't fudge reality. All you can do is obstruct the view."
And here's the July 4th prediction:
https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...-go-again.html
Note the May 10 date. We'll see how accurate this prediction turns out. I'll check in July 4th.
I'll be more than happy to point out the other not-so-remarkable but accurate predictions. All you had to do was listen to the scientists and avoid Fox News. Not exactly rocket science.
Always glad to provide the rational, folks.
So which Fauci do you believe, Comrade Dietz, the flip Fauci or the flop Fauci?
Fauci wowchi, and Barbi doll Birx. You can't trust anyone in government. They go whatever way the "wind" is fucking blowing. Lol.
Did you see today how much Fauci, the CDC and 140+ companies are receiving in Government Funding for the Kung Fu Flu???
Billions of your Tax Dollars!
Tell me this isn't all about money lol lol lol.
One report suggests they will charge each individual 2500 to 4000 dollars for the vaccine.
When Bernie Sanders asked if they agreed to make the vaccine affordable they agreed but you could tell they knew better.
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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
It's June 30, and everything has played out exactly as it figured to play out.
What's interesting is that I PM'ed mickey this way back when as I was concerned because he is highly vulnerable. So he decided to post this from the PM, without asking me did I care, as an example of something I'd gotten wrong.
I was waiting for mickey to mention that maybe I was right about Montana. But that kind of thing seems to be beyond him these days.
Since you are still predicting doomsday for Montana I'll go over the numbers for you. In March we had 204 cases, April 247, may just 64. Now for June we spiked up to 442 new cases. That looks awful bad don't it redietz?Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzQuote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
It's June 30, and everything has played out exactly as it figured to play out.
What's interesting is that I PM'ed mickey this way back when as I was concerned because he is highly vulnerable. So he decided to post this from the PM, without asking me did I care, as an example of something I'd gotten wrong.
I was waiting for mickey to mention that maybe I was right about Montana. But that kind of thing seems to be beyond him these days.
Except, for March/April/May we had 42,000 CV tests. In June we had 43,000 tests. So testing spiked up to 3X what it was in March/April/May.
The spike is concentrated in 3 counties out of 56, Yellowstone, Gallatin and Big Horn. Yellowstone is the most populated county, Gallatin is the gateway to Yellowstone Park with an international airport, Big Horn is where the Crow Indian Reservation is and they didn't have any cases then all of a sudden in June the explode to 80 cases. My home county has had only 33 cases in almost 4 months with only 4 active cases with no hospitalizations.
In almost 4 months Montana has only 105 hospitalizations. Only 14 hospitalizations are active now. We've had 22 deaths.
We didn't have a spike in deaths in June as there were only 5.
I seen an interesting stat yesterday. Of the 130,000 deaths only 160 have been for those under the age of 25. So it's a matter of who is catching the virus and are the old people staying away from them? In Montana, with a population estimated in 2019 at 1 million, the old people are doing a pretty good job of quarantining and social distancing as we have had only 22 deaths in almost 4 months.
On another note, I've been pretty active the last two months since we reopened. I've traveled the entire state. Tourism is way down this year. I don't see the motorcycles and RV's on the roads in numbers like years past. The RV parks are normally packed this time of year but this year they are less than half full. A lot of restaurants are still closed. Some of the Mom & Pop seasonal hotels on Hwy. 2 along the way to Glacier Park didn't open this year.
LOL. And the Montana peak is when?Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmSince you are still predicting doomsday for Montana I'll go over the numbers for you. In March we had 204 cases, April 247, may just 64. Now for June we spiked up to 442 new cases. That looks awful bad don't it redietz?Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzQuote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
It's June 30, and everything has played out exactly as it figured to play out.
What's interesting is that I PM'ed mickey this way back when as I was concerned because he is highly vulnerable. So he decided to post this from the PM, without asking me did I care, as an example of something I'd gotten wrong.
I was waiting for mickey to mention that maybe I was right about Montana. But that kind of thing seems to be beyond him these days.
Except, for March/April/May we had 42,000 CV tests. In June we had 43,000 tests. So testing spiked up to 3X what it was in March/April/May.
The spike is concentrated in 3 counties out of 56, Yellowstone, Gallatin and Big Horn. Yellowstone is the most populated county, Gallatin is the gateway to Yellowstone Park with an international airport, Big Horn is where the Crow Indian Reservation is and they didn't have any cases then all of a sudden in June the explode to 80 cases. My home county has had only 33 cases in almost 4 months with only 4 active cases with no hospitalizations.
In almost 4 months Montana has only 105 hospitalizations. Only 14 hospitalizations are active now. We've had 22 deaths.
We didn't have a spike in deaths in June as there were only 5.
I seen an interesting stat yesterday. Of the 130,000 deaths only 160 have been for those under the age of 25. So it's a matter of who is catching the virus and are the old people staying away from them? In Montana, with a population estimated in 2019 at 1 million, the old people are doing a pretty good job of quarantining and social distancing as we have had only 22 deaths in almost 4 months.
On another note, I've been pretty active the last two months since we reopened. I've traveled the entire state. Tourism is way down this year. I don't see the motorcycles and RV's on the roads in numbers like years past. The RV parks are normally packed this time of year but this year they are less than half full. A lot of restaurants are still closed. Some of the Mom & Pop seasonal hotels on Hwy. 2 along the way to Glacier Park didn't open this year.
It's okay, mickey. You're like the Fonz. You can't quite get the "I was wrong" out of the back of your throat. I imagine it's even harder to say, "Dietz was right; I was wrong." If you practice whispering in front of a mirror, that might help.
Comrade Robert Dietz , the Revolution needs men like you. You are skilled at lying with statistics. The peak was in mid April when we averaged a positive for every 23 people tested. It's currently around 1 in 90. That's not a spike no matter how much you want it to be. You do yourself and others a grave disservice. From March 13th to May 31st there were 17 deaths. In all of June there were just 5 deaths. That's not a spike Comrade Deitz. We've been averaging about 14 current hospitalizations for a couple of months now. Thats not a spike. However, if you twist your statistics around enough I'm sure you can come up with something that erroneously concludes there is a spike.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzLOL. And the Montana peak is when?Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmSince you are still predicting doomsday for Montana I'll go over the numbers for you. In March we had 204 cases, April 247, may just 64. Now for June we spiked up to 442 new cases. That looks awful bad don't it redietz?Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Except, for March/April/May we had 42,000 CV tests. In June we had 43,000 tests. So testing spiked up to 3X what it was in March/April/May.
The spike is concentrated in 3 counties out of 56, Yellowstone, Gallatin and Big Horn. Yellowstone is the most populated county, Gallatin is the gateway to Yellowstone Park with an international airport, Big Horn is where the Crow Indian Reservation is and they didn't have any cases then all of a sudden in June the explode to 80 cases. My home county has had only 33 cases in almost 4 months with only 4 active cases with no hospitalizations.
In almost 4 months Montana has only 105 hospitalizations. Only 14 hospitalizations are active now. We've had 22 deaths.
We didn't have a spike in deaths in June as there were only 5.
I seen an interesting stat yesterday. Of the 130,000 deaths only 160 have been for those under the age of 25. So it's a matter of who is catching the virus and are the old people staying away from them? In Montana, with a population estimated in 2019 at 1 million, the old people are doing a pretty good job of quarantining and social distancing as we have had only 22 deaths in almost 4 months.
On another note, I've been pretty active the last two months since we reopened. I've traveled the entire state. Tourism is way down this year. I don't see the motorcycles and RV's on the roads in numbers like years past. The RV parks are normally packed this time of year but this year they are less than half full. A lot of restaurants are still closed. Some of the Mom & Pop seasonal hotels on Hwy. 2 along the way to Glacier Park didn't open this year.
It's okay, mickey. You're like the Fonz. You can't quite get the "I was wrong" out of the back of your throat. I imagine it's even harder to say, "Dietz was right; I was wrong." If you practice whispering in front of a mirror, that might help.
Now, let's talk about your upcoming trip to Las Vegas. You talk shelter at home for all the little people. Your take that poor people don't need jobs is the height of arrogance. And you excluded, indeed ignored, small business in that take. Purely reprehensible. Let them live poor and eat cake.
But after all that, here you are going on a mission to Las Vegas to take advantage of the "essential service" of sportsbetting for YOUR clients. And you obviously have monetary interests in it. Talk about HYPOCRISY.
Comrade Robert Dietz is an arrogant hypocrite.
I picked this up off of twitter. Its unfiltered news about current state of CV in Texas. I like this guy's math better than yours, Comrade Dietz:
Yea, it is "unfiltered" because it is agreeable to Mick.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
It also comes from an attorney who has a large interest in emergency rooms. Just like the 2 doctors who were all against the closing down who got a lot of national play.
Apparently this Corona thing not good for private ER business.
I see 67 cases today in Montana. Hmmmm. Not a peak, I guess, according to mickey. Mickey, you let us know when things peak in Montana, okay? They must get more cases because Montana tests too much. LOL.
https://www.bing.com/search?q=Corona...3d&FORM=COVIDR
Oh wait, let's check the bar graph, shall we? I'll make sure to drop in and report Montana's caseload every day for a month. Mickey can help me with the math. I evidently need help. I thought the high points were peaks. But what do I know? I'm not really a stat guy.
Also, unless a miracle happens between now and the end of August, no Las Vegas for me. Sorry, mickey. Very possibly, no week to week handicapping for me. I have spoken with some folks running the biggest sport sites and publishers of the annual magazines. Unlikely that I'll be in any competitions this season, including my 30-year stint with the invitation-only Wise Guys Contest. Not sure what, if anything, I'll be doing sports-wise.
You totally ignored the twitter feed I posted about the ER's in Texas. Doesn't fit your narrative.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Still no spike in CV deaths here. Its the only stat that matters. We had 17 for all of Mar/Apr/May and 5 in June. None so far in July.
So someone else nixed your sportsbetting plans for this year. That should give you more time to contemplate whats good for all the little people, Comrade Dietz.
Ditz, here's some more bad news for your doom & gloom predictions. New CV cases started spiking in mid June yet deaths have continued to fall. This "new wave" is a much milder strain. The blue line in the graph is new cases per day and the brown line is deaths per day. Since the spike started in mid June, more than two weeks ago, the "deaths lag" argument is dead. Number of deaths continues to fall.
"I've said from the start the virus is real, the statistics are not. Tabulation of #'s has been botched or purposely manipulated--They've conflated positive VIRUS tests with positive ANTIBODY tests; single individuals counted multiple times; death counts wildly inflated." Dr. Kelly Victory
Breaking Down Covid 19 by Dr. Kelly Victory:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFD5sQjIyGg
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Originally Posted by redietzQuote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
It's June 30, and everything has played out exactly as it figured to play out.
What's interesting is that I PM'ed mickey this way back when as I was concerned because he is highly vulnerable. So he decided to post this from the PM, without asking me did I care, as an example of something I'd gotten wrong.
I was waiting for mickey to mention that maybe I was right about Montana. But that kind of thing seems to be beyond him these days.
Mickey, I'm having a hard time reconciling your post above, where you don't mention fatalities at all, with your new decision that all that matters is number of deaths. Can you help me and point out where you mention fatalities in the post above? Maybe it's a reading comprehension issue on my part. If your post was about cases of coronavirus in Montana, and my PM to you was about cases of coronavirus in Montana, how did both suddenly become about fatalities in Montana? It would seem to me, with "cases" and "deaths" being two different words, that they mean different things. And since you don't mention "cases" in your post, how did your post become about "deaths?"
Not sure. But if you explain it to me, I'll listen real hard.
Second, regarding the sports handicapping, nobody makes any decisions for me and nobody ever has, but good try, buddy. You completely misinterpreted what I said because you are on a confirmation bias addiction run. You thought I was ceasing the gambling because magazines are not being published or sites are down? C'mon, dude. I don't advertise. I must have said that ad nauseum. The sports sites are up and running, the contests will be active, the magazines are being published. Some come out July 20, in fact, on a month delay. I decided to not do certain things because it's the correct strategy -- from a professional gambling standpoint.
And finally, you realize you've painted yourself into another corner, right? Now your schtick is that death rates are down. Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but most viruses become less lethal over time. It's generally not a good spread strategy to kill your hosts real fast. And the most physically fragile and most vulnerable to contagion die first, so by definition death rates should go down. And health professionals figure out what works and what doesn't. So death rates should go down, and should go down significantly. These are three established ways death rates should decrease.
However, because death rates trail infection rates by a good month, Montana's fatalities should peak in August. See, if the caseload peaks in June/July (as I predicted), then mid to late August should see the deaths go up.
Thus, a month from now, mickey will be explaining how it's not so bad even though Montana has record deaths because the death rate is actually lower than April per infection. LOL.
Hey you Piece of Shit RED. And yes, if I EVER meet you, I will beat you into the ground, or you will kick my ass. Either way, I look forward to the day. I will never change my mind you enjoy the death of others as you think it pushes your political agenda. And I understand you believe in it so much you are willing to die for it like the communist garbage you are.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
You know why? Because you don’t believe in any of it, you saw this as an opportunity to MAKE money. Like the scam handicapper you are and have always have been. You played the rest are scammers, but said you were the honest guy for years. And I semi respect you for it.
Please explain why you won’t be in any of the SCAM contests you have pushed for years as being legit when both of us know are bullshit. What changed so you can’t be in them? They are weekly contests based on weekly odds. They have NOTHING to do with your trip to Vegas or preseason odds.
You are using this to push your SHIT website and your liberal agenda.
And if you want to ever meet me and go at it, I’ll be there you human piece of worthless shit.
And yes, in 55 years, I don’t think I ever wanted to kick someone’s ass like yours. Congratulations on being the face of everything wrong with white America Robert E Dietz.
Let’s set it up buddy and go at it.
Ditz, you are stuck on stupid. But I am getting a lot of laughs as you clutch at straws.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzQuote:
Originally Posted by redietzQuote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
It's June 30, and everything has played out exactly as it figured to play out.
What's interesting is that I PM'ed mickey this way back when as I was concerned because he is highly vulnerable. So he decided to post this from the PM, without asking me did I care, as an example of something I'd gotten wrong.
I was waiting for mickey to mention that maybe I was right about Montana. But that kind of thing seems to be beyond him these days.
Mickey, I'm having a hard time reconciling your post above, where you don't mention fatalities at all, with your new decision that all that matters is number of deaths. Can you help me and point out where you mention fatalities in the post above? Maybe it's a reading comprehension issue on my part. If your post was about cases of coronavirus in Montana, and my PM to you was about cases of coronavirus in Montana, how did both suddenly become about fatalities in Montana? It would seem to me, with "cases" and "deaths" being two different words, that they mean different things. And since you don't mention "cases" in your post, how did your post become about "deaths?"
Not sure. But if you explain it to me, I'll listen real hard.
Second, regarding the sports handicapping, nobody makes any decisions for me and nobody ever has, but good try, buddy. You completely misinterpreted what I said because you are on a confirmation bias addiction run. You thought I was ceasing the gambling because magazines are not being published or sites are down? C'mon, dude. I don't advertise. I must have said that ad nauseum. The sports sites are up and running, the contests will be active, the magazines are being published. Some come out July 20, in fact, on a month delay. I decided to not do certain things because it's the correct strategy -- from a professional gambling standpoint.
And finally, you realize you've painted yourself into another corner, right? Now your schtick is that death rates are down. Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but most viruses become less lethal over time. It's generally not a good spread strategy to kill your hosts real fast. And the most physically fragile and most vulnerable to contagion die first, so by definition death rates should go down. And health professionals figure out what works and what doesn't. So death rates should go down, and should go down significantly. These are three established ways death rates should decrease.
However, because death rates trail infection rates by a good month, Montana's fatalities should peak in August. See, if the caseload peaks in June/July (as I predicted), then mid to late August should see the deaths go up.
Thus, a month from now, mickey will be explaining how it's not so bad even though Montana has record deaths because the death rate is actually lower than April per infection. LOL.
I'm not sure if this is mention, however, there might be an increase in cases and drop in death rate because the increase is being spread throughout the young people in the community who are less likely to die.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Flu type viruses always work their way up from the younger kids, to the older kids, to the adults.
I have no idea what's going on. The rumor mill amongst casino people seems to be stuff is shutting down after the weekend. Supposedly the Venetian is going to lead the way again. This whole thing is just one giant shit show if true. Stick a fork in it if this rumor shit turns out to be true.
Exactly!Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfI'm not sure if this is mention, however, there might be an increase in cases and drop in death rate because the increase is being spread throughout the young people in the community who are less likely to die.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
So does this "Wise Guys" contest not really exist? I thought some of redietz's stuff was verifiable? Are these private contests?
Bosox seems relatively normal. Our politics far different but he seems sorta normal.
Then I see him fantasizing over beating up Redietz for making coronavirus estimations.
What is going on? We need a KJ like character to go after redietz like he went after Singer. LOL.
I wish I could give you guys a bowl of mom's mac'n'cheese and I think we'd all just get along.
I was curious if she was a normal doctor. No, she runs her own private ER. These are all doctors who figured out normal medicine practicing doesn't pay off as well as ER scams. She also was charged for dwi+firearm violations after an anti-pot rally starring anne coulter.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Yea, they're coming out "in droves." but apparently I can count a drove on 1 hand.
LarryS. went after both KJ, and Red. MrV tended to go after Monet. A couple of fairly determined guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
LarryS. was a pharmacist. Apparently, Larry thought that someone on here tracked him down, and, then, smashed up his car. Scared Larry stopped posting, the next day. After Larry left, MrV, a divorce lawyer, lost his long-time online buddy, so, he left, shortly after.
P.S. MrV was another big pot user.
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Originally Posted by The BozHey you Piece of Shit RED. And yes, if I EVER meet you, I will beat you into the ground, or you will kick my ass. Either way, I look forward to the day. I will never change my mind you enjoy the death of others as you think it pushes your political agenda. And I understand you believe in it so much you are willing to die for it like the communist garbage you are.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
You know why? Because you don’t believe in any of it, you saw this as an opportunity to MAKE money. Like the scam handicapper you are and have always have been. You played the rest are scammers, but said you were the honest guy for years. And I semi respect you for it.
Please explain why you won’t be in any of the SCAM contests you have pushed for years as being legit when both of us know are bullshit. What changed so you can’t be in them? They are weekly contests based on weekly odds. They have NOTHING to do with your trip to Vegas or preseason odds.
You are using this to push your SHIT website and your liberal agenda.
And if you want to ever meet me and go at it, I’ll be there you human piece of worthless shit.
And yes, in 55 years, I don’t think I ever wanted to kick someone’s ass like yours. Congratulations on being the face of everything wrong with white America Robert E Dietz.
Let’s set it up buddy and go at it.
What changed? Eight-five to ninety percent of my volume wagering is college football, and you are looking at -- if there is a season, which is increasingly doubtful -- teams routinely sidelining 20 to 30% of their rosters because they come down with the virus. Then quarantining the rest of the team. What kind of loony tune would wager seriously on that stuff, other than the team doctors? If you bet futures, the season could be canceled at any time. Betting on this would be for addicts and team doctors, not that there's anything wrong with that, as Seinfeld would say.
Already, large chunks of Iowa State, Alabama, Auburn, Oklahoma, LSU, and Clemson have come down with the virus. So you're looking at weeks of quarantine and not practicing for big chunks of the rosters. If the kids suffer any significant effects from having the virus (like lung capacity issues), or have to take a month off training and practicing, the players will not be anything like what they were last season.
I'm hoping they put off the college season until January. That would make some sense.
Boz is talking out his ass, and he probably knows it. I'm only in spread contests that include both college and NFL. I'm never in the SuperBook Contest, for example. When there were college-only contests in LV, like Bally's had 20 years ago, I was in them. I'm routinely in offshore NFL no spread contests. I'd still be in those. But I'm not going to enter spread contests. People follow my plays. I can't have people betting games because I take games when nobody knows how much of a roster is sidelined every blessed week for potentially every league and team.
I actually care about the people who follow my plays. And I care about my lifetime record. I'm not going to bet garbage just for the sake of betting.
All we are hearing is the increase air traffic into McCarran.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxPen
https://www.playbook.com//Vegas-Wise-Guys/Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
Of course it exists.
Correction: Boz wants to beat me up for making ACCURATE coronavirus estimations.
That was almost a KJ psycho killer rant and rave, when Coach and KJ wanted to go at it, a week or two after KJ's heart surgery. Bozo bar has a way to go.
Yea, I’m talking out my ass. Just like you have for years on these forums pushing your scam handicapping service EVERY chance you get. You play it sly but make no mistake, your goal is to sell your picks to anyone willing to fall for your scam.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzQuote:
Originally Posted by The BozHey you Piece of Shit RED. And yes, if I EVER meet you, I will beat you into the ground, or you will kick my ass. Either way, I look forward to the day. I will never change my mind you enjoy the death of others as you think it pushes your political agenda. And I understand you believe in it so much you are willing to die for it like the communist garbage you are.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
You know why? Because you don’t believe in any of it, you saw this as an opportunity to MAKE money. Like the scam handicapper you are and have always have been. You played the rest are scammers, but said you were the honest guy for years. And I semi respect you for it.
Please explain why you won’t be in any of the SCAM contests you have pushed for years as being legit when both of us know are bullshit. What changed so you can’t be in them? They are weekly contests based on weekly odds. They have NOTHING to do with your trip to Vegas or preseason odds.
You are using this to push your SHIT website and your liberal agenda.
And if you want to ever meet me and go at it, I’ll be there you human piece of worthless shit.
And yes, in 55 years, I don’t think I ever wanted to kick someone’s ass like yours. Congratulations on being the face of everything wrong with white America Robert E Dietz.
Let’s set it up buddy and go at it.
What changed? Eight-five to ninety percent of my volume wagering is college football, and you are looking at -- if there is a season, which is increasingly doubtful -- teams routinely sidelining 20 to 30% of their rosters because they come down with the virus. Then quarantining the rest of the team. What kind of loony tune would wager seriously on that stuff, other than the team doctors? If you bet futures, the season could be canceled at any time. Betting on this would be for addicts and team doctors, not that there's anything wrong with that, as Seinfeld would say.
Already, large chunks of Iowa State, Alabama, Auburn, Oklahoma, LSU, and Clemson have come down with the virus. So you're looking at weeks of quarantine and not practicing for big chunks of the rosters. If the kids suffer any significant effects from having the virus (like lung capacity issues), or have to take a month off training and practicing, the players will not be anything like what they were last season.
I'm hoping they put off the college season until January. That would make some sense.
Boz is talking out his ass, and he probably knows it. I'm only in spread contests that include both college and NFL. I'm never in the SuperBook Contest, for example. When there were college-only contests in LV, like Bally's had 20 years ago, I was in them. I'm routinely in offshore NFL no spread contests. I'd still be in those. But I'm not going to enter spread contests. People follow my plays. I can't have people betting games because I take games when nobody knows how much of a roster is sidelined every blessed week for potentially every league and team.
I actually care about the people who follow my plays. And I care about my lifetime record. I'm not going to bet garbage just for the sake of betting.
And you are using this event to promote your website that fronts for your service. Otherwise you would have spent the $20 it takes to create a new site to push your ghoulish death fantasy along with your liberal agenda.
You got caught by the Wizard, but nice try.
As Singer said years ago, you truly are a strange fuck RED.
Yea KJ had a heart surgery.Quote:
Originally Posted by LMR
And KJ “died”
And KJ had Coronavirus
And KJ had his husband die.
One sure Vegas bet is you can’t believe anything that comes out of KJ’s mouth, but you sure can bet on what goes in it.