Rob Singer quit this forum after his fake "Vegas trip" debacle, which we busted as being phony -- but why?

With mickeycrimm and redietz both on a mission to discredit the other, I am going to offer some opinions on each. You all know my thinking, that it just isn't that hard to figure out who knows what they are talking about and who is just talking.

Redietz: I have no doubt that redietz has made a living as a sports better for many years. As a matter of fact, what he does, a lot of contests and stuff, is something I hadn't even considered. I thought sports betters bet on games. This was a whole new angle for me and I must say, sort of crosses more into advantage play than just betting individual games. I would also be surprised if mickeycrimm doesn't know that redietz is who he claims.

I haven't mentioned it but one thing I don't like about redietz's claim about mickey is that mickey wouldn't know about larger w-2's because he is generally a lower limit slot AP. Tasha (of all people) said this about me when I opined that Mdog's claims didn't cut the mustard. Well here is the thing: While I don't play at Mdogs betting levels and play high limit rooms (I actually try to avoid them) and mickey may not play such high limits as to be getting w-2's for 10's or 100's of thousand of dollars, as real players who play for a living, we know and talk to people. Players that play those limits, dealers and casino workers. When you are a real player, spending a lot, maybe too much :rolleyes:, time in casinos, you get to know people on BOTH sides and how things work. So that arguement that so and so doesn't play those limits is out the window as far as I am concerned. Real players know, talk to and network with players and casino personel on BOTh sides and know how things work, even if it is something they aren't doing themselves.

Now mickey: Redietz is sarcastically saying mickey wins at all things. I have never heard mickey claim all that much about winning from sports betting. Same with Poker. And I specifically recently asked him about his blackjack card counting history. I am not saying he hasn't won some money from any of these things, he probably has, simply because mickey is one of the most complete AP's I have encountered. And I think redietz knows that too, so I don't know why either is on this mission to discredit the other.

And as far as redietz, not announcing his picks prior to the games, well this is a Rob Singer talking point that mickey is now repeating. OMG, imagine a professional level sportsbetter NOT sharing his picks on a public board before the game. Unheard of isn't it!!! Kind of like how AP's don't share a machine play or table game side bet opportunity on a public forum until well after it has played out. Unheard of right? :cool:

[QUOTE=redietz;151691]When Mickey "The Truth" Crimm talks, people listen. He's like E.F.Hutton.

WHEN STEVE STEVENS' PROTEGE, REDIETZ SPEAKS, SCAMDICAPPERS LISTEN.

Now mickey's going to explain how I was wrong about W2Gs being no proof of having done something, just of taking tax responsibility for it. Can't wait for the insights.

I NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT W2G'S BEING PROOF OF ANYTHING.

If you'll notice, mickey didn't offer his experience with people signing for others' wins until I spelled it out. Now why wouldn't he mention that when Singer is going around touting W2Gs as proof of something? You'd think Mickey "The Truth" Crimm would tell people that, wouldn't you?

I guess not.

GUESS AGAIN. I'VE POSTED SEVERAL TIMES OVER THE YEARS, IN MORE THAN ONE FORUM, ABOUT THE W2G SIGNERS AROUND THE SLOT TEAMS.

And there are many more elements to the W2G subbing than slot teams subbing in for "big payouts." LOL. But yeah, I'm not going into them.

EVERYONE HAS TO ASK THEMSELVES, WHY WOULD DITZ NOT TALK ABOUT IT? WHAT'S HE DOING. COVERING FOR NOT KNOWING? OR INVOLVED IN ILLEGAL ACIVITY?

OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD I THINK SOMEONE WHO HAS THE DOCUMENTED LOSSES TO COVER FOR THE W2G COULD SIGN OFF. THE SCAM YOU SPEAK OF PROBABLY STARTS RIGHT THERE.

HOW LONG HAVE YOU GUYS BEEN RUNNING THAT SCAM?

[QUOTE=redietz;151692]As far as mickey's profiling what I do, I welcome anyone to contact the Lawrences (publishers of PlayBook) or Billy Walters or Bob Fredericks of Inside Sportsview (who coordinated Las Vegas contest entries for out-of-staters for decades), then report back here what those folks think of me. There you go -- specific folks to check up on me. I don't think anyone can reasonably argue with their qualifications.

LOL! A SCAMDICAPPER WANTS US TO CONTACT OTHER SCAMDICAPPERS. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP. AND THE HONORABLE BILLY WALTERS? DIDN'T THEY LET HIM OUT OF THE BIG HOUSE EARLY BECAUSE OF COVID?

Mickey, of course, makes money in all sports, just like he makes money playing poker and machine playing. He's like Inspector Gadget. He always has the tools to win at everything.

ANOTHER REDIETZ PREVARUCATION. I'VE NEVER BEEN MUCH OF A SPORTS BETTOR. BUT I MADE A LITTLE MONEY BACK IN 2006/2007 WORKING THE LINES THAT MOVED ON GAME DAY IN WENDOVER. tAKING THE DOG AND AN EXTRA TWO POINTS BECAUSE OF THE WOODCHOPPERS THAN NEVER SEEN A FAVORITE THEY DIDN'T LIKE. IF PUSSY ASS REDITZ DON'T BELIEVE IT HE CAN SUCK DICK.

I STARTED OUT IN POKER AND YES MADE A PROFIT AT SOME FORMS OF THE GAME LIKE 7 STUD 8 OR BETTER. THE STUD GAMES STARTED DRYNG UP AND I STARTED MAKING MONEY PLAYING MACHINES. STUCK WITH THE MACHINES.

I think what galls me about this nonsense is when mickey wanted to know how to properly attack sign-up free play for the sports books, he asked me not so long ago. I gave him the best short answer I could. I guess it wasn't expert enough, eh mickey?

NO, IT WASN'T. I GOT BETTER ADVICE FROM SOMEONE ELSE.

Tell you what, mickey. You obviously don't want me posting here with your boy, Rob's, validity continually on the line. Since you're so brilliant, covering all aspects of gambling with your Leonardo Da AP act, I give you the floor. It's a bummer, as in the last year, I gave out futures that won here, a week's worth of a baseball angle that won to the tune of between 7 1/2 and 8 1/2 units, and instructions (to kewlJ) on which books to check in what order to get the proper futures odds for his to-win-division wager. All totally worthless stuff, as opposed to your brilliant insights.

DUDE, YOUR A DEGEN THAT GOT LUCKY

Oh yeah, almost forgot -- I pointed out an offshore where certain specific wagers, if lost, got you a 50% or 100% free play back up to $200 for losing. Nobody else seemed to know about it or kept it to themselves. But not me. As mickey says, however, I know nothing and share no specific information. Take the floor, mickey. You deserve it.

DEGENS SHARE INFORMATION ALL THE TIME.

Degen redietz was in another losing streak. But this one was worse, much worse than all the others. He owed the bookies hundred of thousands of dollars. He needed a mortal lock he could bet big to get out of the hole. Now, you all know redietz. He's got relatives that are experts or whatever at all kinds of stuff. And it just so happens he had a 4th cousin that was the coach of a nationally ranked college basketball team.

redietz calls his cousin, tells him his plight, and asks if there is anything his cousin can do for him. Any kind of inside information at all so he can get out of the hole. His cousin said "well, I shouldn't do this....but you're in a bad spot. You know, we're favored by 13 points in the game tonight but all my starters came down with the flu this morning. They've been pukin' and shittin' all day. We're the ones that should be 13 point dogs. We'll be lucky to stay that close to them. So bet the farm on the other team.

"Oh, Wow! redietz exclaimed. "Thank you, thank you, thank you so much! My God! You're a life saver! I can't thank you enough! Whew!"

"Oh, by the way" redietz exclaimed. "Do you know a good team I could parlay this to?"

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

Degen redietz was in another losing streak. But this one was worse, much worse than all the others. He owed the bookies hundred of thousands of dollars. He needed a mortal lock he could be big to get out of the hole. Now, you all know redietz. He's got relatives that are experts or whatever at all kinds of stuff. And it just so happens he had a 4th cousin that was the coach of a nationally ranked college basketballl team.

redietz calls his cousin, tells him his plight, and asks if there is anything his cousin can do for him. Any kind of inside information at all. His cousin said "well, I shouldn't do this....but you are in a bad way. You know, we're favored by 13 points tonight but all my starters came down with the flu this morning. We're the ones that should be 13 point dogs. So bet the farm on the other team.

"Oh, Wow! redietz exclaimed. "Thank you, thank you, thank you so much! My God! You're a life saver! I can't thank you enough! Whew!"

"Oh, by the way" redietz exclaimed. "Do you know a good team I could parley this to"

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I believe every word you type but at least use the word parlay instead of parley because I'm confused.

Par·ley
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NOUN
a conference between opposing sides in a dispute, especially a discussion of terms for an armistice:
"a parley is in progress and the invaders may withdraw"

SIMILAR:
negotiation
talk(s)
meeting
conference
summit

VERB
hold a conference with the opposing side to discuss terms:
"they disagreed over whether to parley with the enemy"

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Originally Posted by monet

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

Degen redietz was in another losing streak. But this one was worse, much worse than all the others. He owed the bookies hundred of thousands of dollars. He needed a mortal lock he could be big to get out of the hole. Now, you all know redietz. He's got relatives that are experts or whatever at all kinds of stuff. And it just so happens he had a 4th cousin that was the coach of a nationally ranked college basketballl team.

redietz calls his cousin, tells him his plight, and asks if there is anything his cousin can do for him. Any kind of inside information at all. His cousin said "well, I shouldn't do this....but you are in a bad way. You know, we're favored by 13 points tonight but all my starters came down with the flu this morning. We're the ones that should be 13 point dogs. So bet the farm on the other team.

"Oh, Wow! redietz exclaimed. "Thank you, thank you, thank you so much! My God! You're a life saver! I can't thank you enough! Whew!"

"Oh, by the way" redietz exclaimed. "Do you know a good team I could parley this to"

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I believe every word you type but at least use the word parlay instead of parley because I'm confused.

Par·ley
[ˈpärlē]
NOUN
a conference between opposing sides in a dispute, especially a discussion of terms for an armistice:
"a parley is in progress and the invaders may withdraw"

SIMILAR:
negotiation
talk(s)
meeting
conference
summit

VERB
hold a conference with the opposing side to discuss terms:
"they disagreed over whether to parley with the enemy"

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typo corrected. I usually catch them. thanks. But we both missed no question mark at the end of the sentence. Hahahaha!

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

With mickeycrimm and redietz both on a mission to discredit the other, I am going to offer some opinions on each. You all know my thinking, that it just isn't that hard to figure out who knows what they are talking about and who is just talking.

Redietz: I have no doubt that redietz has made a living as a sports better for many years. As a matter of fact, what he does, a lot of contests and stuff, is something I hadn't even considered. I thought sports betters bet on games. This was a whole new angle for me and I must say, sort of crosses more into advantage play than just betting individual games. I would also be surprised if mickeycrimm doesn't know that redietz is who he claims.

I haven't mentioned it but one thing I don't like about redietz's claim about mickey is that mickey wouldn't know about larger w-2's because he is generally a lower limit slot AP. Tasha (of all people) said this about me when I opined that Mdog's claims didn't cut the mustard. Well here is the thing: While I don't play at Mdogs betting levels and play high limit rooms (I actually try to avoid them) and mickey may not play such high limits as to be getting w-2's for 10's or 100's of thousand of dollars, as real players who play for a living, we know and talk to people. Players that play those limits, dealers and casino workers. When you are a real player, spending a lot, maybe too much :rolleyes:, time in casinos, you get to know people on BOTH sides and how things work. So that arguement that so and so doesn't play those limits is out the window as far as I am concerned. Real players know, talk to and network with players and casino personel on BOTh sides and know how things work, even if it is something they aren't doing themselves.

Now mickey: Redietz is sarcastically saying mickey wins at all things. I have never heard mickey claim all that much about winning from sports betting. Same with Poker. And I specifically recently asked him about his blackjack card counting history. I am not saying he hasn't won some money from any of these things, he probably has, simply because mickey is one of the most complete AP's I have encountered. And I think redietz knows that too, so I don't know why either is on this mission to discredit the other.

And as far as redietz, not announcing his picks prior to the games, well this is a Rob Singer talking point that mickey is now repeating. OMG, imagine a professional level sportsbetter NOT sharing his picks on a public board before the game. Unheard of isn't it!!! Kind of like how AP's don't share a machine play or table game side bet opportunity on a public forum until well after it has played out. Unheard of right? :cool:

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Tons of APs do plenty of sports betting stuff. There are many APs who know quite a bit more about sports betting than Redietz. Redietz knows about one sport. (I believe soccer) but not sure. Redietz doesn't know enough to begin to understand what he doesn't know. (We'll leave it at that)

Redietz loves to talk about himself and his promoting but I don't know if I have ever learned one thing from him.

Mickey however has written some stuff which is basically the best material there out there figuring out machines and how to approach that on your own. As opposed to all the crackheads and various degenerates given some numbers by another degenerate. Reading how he figures out equities by counting various things was very useful.

Mickey goes to the gutter too easily but Redietz is just so promoting and condescending at times. I don't know if he's gotten worse or I have just spent too much time on the forum.

Mickey has never shown to ever talk about stuff he doesn't know about. Redietz however.....

So readers, this is all you need to know about these 2 guys.

BTW I'm high so I am being self-indulgent in giving my opinions.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

With mickeycrimm and redietz both on a mission to discredit the other, I am going to offer some opinions on each. You all know my thinking, that it just isn't that hard to figure out who knows what they are talking about and who is just talking.

Redietz: I have no doubt that redietz has made a living as a sports better for many years. As a matter of fact, what he does, a lot of contests and stuff, is something I hadn't even considered. I thought sports betters bet on games. This was a whole new angle for me and I must say, sort of crosses more into advantage play than just betting individual games. I would also be surprised if mickeycrimm doesn't know that redietz is who he claims.

I haven't mentioned it but one thing I don't like about redietz's claim about mickey is that mickey wouldn't know about larger w-2's because he is generally a lower limit slot AP. Tasha (of all people) said this about me when I opined that Mdog's claims didn't cut the mustard. Well here is the thing: While I don't play at Mdogs betting levels and play high limit rooms (I actually try to avoid them) and mickey may not play such high limits as to be getting w-2's for 10's or 100's of thousand of dollars, as real players who play for a living, we know and talk to people. Players that play those limits, dealers and casino workers. When you are a real player, spending a lot, maybe too much :rolleyes:, time in casinos, you get to know people on BOTH sides and how things work. So that arguement that so and so doesn't play those limits is out the window as far as I am concerned. Real players know, talk to and network with players and casino personel on BOTh sides and know how things work, even if it is something they aren't doing themselves.

Now mickey: Redietz is sarcastically saying mickey wins at all things. I have never heard mickey claim all that much about winning from sports betting. Same with Poker. And I specifically recently asked him about his blackjack card counting history. I am not saying he hasn't won some money from any of these things, he probably has, simply because mickey is one of the most complete AP's I have encountered. And I think redietz knows that too, so I don't know why either is on this mission to discredit the other.

And as far as redietz, not announcing his picks prior to the games, well this is a Rob Singer talking point that mickey is now repeating. OMG, imagine a professional level sportsbetter NOT sharing his picks on a public board before the game. Unheard of isn't it!!! Kind of like how AP's don't share a machine play or table game side bet opportunity on a public forum until well after it has played out. Unheard of right? :cool:

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Anyone talking to both sides “networking” is most definitely a fucking rat that deserves to die of aids and have their family die of covid. I been dealing with rats like gun play all fucking year. Atlantic City is full of them so is Florida and Cincinnati. Networking with the other side is code for rate or felony crimes. Fuck off rat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEeUR8UDy-s

The funniest shit about Redietz is that I twisted him up so much he went off and made threads about me. " Accounting Lesson #1 "

TBH I did that with Rob Singer when we I posted "who is smarter Singer or Tash." But the effort to chuckle ratio was quite low. The results were pretty much as expected.

Oh shit I didn't quite catch that he says we can contact Billy Waters who will vouch for him being legit !!!!

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Originally Posted by monet

QueerJ, Redietz, Mr. V and Dan Druff missed you more but welcome back, nonetheless.
Your posts really do keep QueerJ up at nights as he writes never ending paragraphs about you that most of us do not read.

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Shut the FUCK up you fat disgusting homophobic, bigoted PIG. What a fucking low-life you are!

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Fuck you rat fuck “networking” both sides sucking the cock of every black casino employee in Vegas ! All to rat

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Originally Posted by redietz

As far as mickey's profiling what I do, I welcome anyone to contact the Lawrences (publishers of PlayBook) or Billy Walters or Bob Fredericks of Inside Sportsview (who coordinated Las Vegas contest entries for out-of-staters for decades), then report back here what those folks think of me. There you go -- specific folks to check up on me. I don't think anyone can reasonably argue with their qualifications.

Mickey, of course, makes money in all sports, just like he makes money playing poker and machine playing. He's like Inspector Gadget. He always has the tools to win at everything.

I think what galls me about this nonsense is when mickey wanted to know how to properly attack sign-up free play for the sports books, he asked me not so long ago. I gave him the best short answer I could. I guess it wasn't expert enough, eh mickey?

Tell you what, mickey. You obviously don't want me posting here with your boy, Rob's, validity continually on the line. Since you're so brilliant, covering all aspects of gambling with your Leonardo Da AP act, I give you the floor. It's a bummer, as in the last year, I gave out futures that won here, a week's worth of a baseball angle that won to the tune of between 7 1/2 and 8 1/2 units, and instructions (to kewlJ) on which books to check in what order to get the proper futures odds for his to-win-division wager. All totally worthless stuff, as opposed to your brilliant insights.

Oh yeah, almost forgot -- I pointed out an offshore where certain specific wagers, if lost, got you a 50% or 100% free play back up to $200 for losing. Nobody else seemed to know about it or kept it to themselves. But not me. As mickey says, however, I know nothing and share no specific information.

Take the floor, mickey. You deserve it.

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O shut the fuck up !! Attacking online sports bonus / freeplay is so fucking easy I doubt Mickey needed your advice ! I swear to god half you fucks most be paid prop posters. There’s just no way someone of you people are real

tableplay... thanks for the horse racing link.
Seedvalue... thanks for the last three posts.
I'm Rolling on the Floor laughing Out Loud!

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Fuck you rat fuck “networking” both sides sucking the cock of every black casino employee in Vegas ! All to rat

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No, FUCK YOU, you lying asshole! You are another low life piece of shit crackhead, ex-con.

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Originally Posted by monet

tableplay... thanks for the horse racing link.
Seedvalue... thanks for the last three posts.
I'm Rolling on the Floor laughing Out Loud!

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No problem.

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Originally Posted by monet

tableplay... thanks for the horse racing link.
Seedvalue... thanks for the last three posts.
I'm Rolling on the Floor laughing Out Loud!

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No problem.

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Tableplay, have you and Monet had sex yet? Please keep us updated

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Originally Posted by Seedvalue

Fuck you rat fuck “networking” both sides sucking the cock of every black casino employee in Vegas ! All to rat

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No, FUCK YOU, you lying asshole! You are another low life piece of shit crackhead, ex-con.

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Negative blacksuckJ never been arrested for anything. I once got a ticket for having my cock out on the beach but that was by accident because when it gets hard it’s impossible to keep hidden in a pair of Board shorts. Lucky for me you were no where around because most certainly you would have been begging for a taste.

Fact you rat and date casino employees black and white to further your rat fink fraudulent life.

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I once got a ticket for having my cock out on the beach but that was by accident because when it gets hard it’s impossible to keep hidden in a pair of Board shorts,

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Good grief.

Funny how guys with big money usually are pretty quiet about it, whereas wannabe rich dudes, guys with nothing, post false brags of wealth.

Gotta suspect the same dynamic is at work when it comes to cock size.

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Originally Posted by Seedvalue

Negative blacksuckJ never been arrested for anything. I once got a ticket for having my cock out on the beach but that was by accident because when it gets hard it’s impossible to keep hidden in a pair of Board shorts. Lucky for me you were no where around because most certainly you would have been begging for a taste.

Fact you rat and date casino employees black and white to further your rat fink fraudulent life.

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FUCK YOU asshole. You are a sick, lying, pervy sicko. Yeah, go take some more dick up the ass and call it "swinging".

Back to the topic of forum regulars that haven’t been around for a while.

Whatever happened to “The Boz.”