Do you hold a funeral service for every one of your socks that get booted off forums?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tasha
Can I interest you in some NFT cemetery space?
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Do you hold a funeral service for every one of your socks that get booted off forums?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tasha
Can I interest you in some NFT cemetery space?
Racquet wasn't one of my Socks... In fact, he joined YEARS before I even knew what WOV even was....Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxPenDo you hold a funeral service for every one of your socks that get booted off forums?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tasha
Can I interest you in some NFT cemetery space?
What's hilarious is all the peeps commenting on MDawg desperate for some kind of affirmation, just talking to themselves.
The worst of the lot was KewlJ, a scrawny little man with a manner between fag and pimp. Always the same thin, ratty face, shabby, out-of-date clothes, whiny, penetrating voice.
The most unbearable thing about KewlJ was his voice. It went all through you.
Fags are ventriloquists' dummies who have moved in and taken over the ventriloquist. The dummy sits in a queer bar nursing his beer, and uncontrollably yapping out of a rigid doll face.
If UNKewlJ were a REAL MAN he would have said what he REALLY thought about me at WOV, not kowtowed to the WOV's rules and posted something fairy like and toeing the line. He's afraid of getting suspended just like he's afraid of laying the big bets out there at the tables. It's obvious how much he admires real men because he isn't one!
Or perhaps...The worst of the lot was AxelWolf, a scrawny little man with a manner between fag and pimp. Axel was informer to the bone. He probably pulled out dirty lists of people -- his hands were always dirty -- and read them off to the law. You could see him bustling into Black and Tan headquarters during the Irish Trouble, in a dirty gray toga turning in Christians, giving information to the Gestapo, the GPU, sitting in a cafeteria talking to a narcotics agent. Always the same thin, ratty face, shabby, out-of-date clothes, whiny, penetrating voice.
The most unbearable thing about Axel was his voice. It went all through you.
When one personality meets another for the first time, there is a period of mutual examination on the intuitive level of empathy and identification. But it was impossible to relate one's self to Axel in any way. He was simply the focal point for a hostile intrusive force. You could feel him walk right into your psyche and look around to see if anything was there he could make use of.
In any case, all these guys jbjb (what a dumb name...is that like TommyTutone or Jimmy TwoTimes), jdaewoo, rainman, lilredrooster, terapined, sabre, TominNV, TomG, MisterV, darkoz, AxelWolf, KewlJ, PokerGrinder, EvenBob, BillRyan, etc. etc. why do they waste their time writing about me when they know I could care less to respond.
Meantime the winner's envelope grows in size, pushing +32K now, 8900 in cash and 23K in chips in that little zippered compartment, and fully comp'ed RFB in one of their largest suites. That's the reality...the rest, is their madness as their panties grow further tied in knots.
https://i.imgur.com/REMNo0hm.jpg
By the same logic, you should copy your post, verbatim, and go post it at WoV and eat your suspension.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
Also, is KewlJ thin? I thought he spoke to the contrary of that, at one point, but I could be misremembering.
I'm not really looking to get into this whole thing because it's a waste of time, so I'll reserve comment on the rest. The only reason that I comment as to the first part is because it's a serious inconsistency between what you suggest KewlJ should do and what you are doing yourself.
From this post it sounds very much like you have already met Axel and KewlJ.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
I was under the impression no one has met up with you from WOV or here
Is this the whole MDawg thing. Are you a previous sock who has just been doing a monumental troll to piss off people who know you are lying?
That's why you make certain no one meets up? Because you will be recognized and immediately called out as fake?
While I’m no fan of the Wiz, it would give MDawg some of the credibility he seeks by meeting Mike. Since it appears MD is in Vegas currently it should be easy to get in contact with Mike and I’m sure he would take the time to meet up in a casino, in a public place.
And Mike is trustworthy and wouldn’t bring anyone to hide in the shadows to watch if that is a concern to MD. It wouldn’t prove all his claims, but certainly would show he is a legitimate person with just a brief conversation.
It’s not an end all, prove all to his claims but it couldn’t hurt in my opinion.
Boz, in December Wizard posted "it is time for Mdawg to put up or shut up" and proposed meeting Mdawg to observe his play. Mike said something along the lines of he would fairly quickly be able to determine what Mdoggie was doing and whether it was a winning strategy or not. Not only would Mpuppy not agree to that but he went behind the scenes in his typical PMing bullshit, bullying and threatening Mike to drop that plan, which Mike did. I don't think Wizard was intimidated by Mbitch, Mike just gets to a point where he is like "I am not wasting anymore time on this".Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
Now that Mdog is back in Vegas and there are new calls for a meetup, I feel certain, Mike could be convinced to take a couple hours and meet and watch him play. But Mdawg is never going to let that happen. He will attach some stipulation about putting up money or something to insure that it doesn't happen. Now why would that be? Like you said, meeting with Wizard could go towards giving him the credibility he craves. My guess is that Mdope can't meet with wizard because he would reveal that he is a sockpuppet of someone else....someone Wizard already knows. :cool:
In other news....looks like a complete meltdown by Mdunce today here. I guess that was to be expected when EvenBob even is calling him a fraud. There is really no one left that believes any of this nonsense. Sure. some of us read, at least parts, for amusement purposes, but Mdog has about equaled Robbie in no one believing him and that is a bar, I didn't think I would ever see met. ;)
oh and as for rachet being a sock of Tasha/nathan? yeah pretty obvious now. And I feel a little stupid as I engaged in some blackjack discussion with Rachet, which I enjoyed at the time. But looking back it was nothing very technical that would demonstrate any real blackjack knowledge. I think it was mostly the rachet person talking about playing blackjack during retirement. So yeah, color me "sucker" for falling for tasha/nathans sock bullshit. I will do the red emoji, not because I am mad, just embarrassed having fallen for the troll. :mad:
And if Mike wants to meet with MDawg, it would be equally easy for Mike to get in contact with MDawg.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
Mike is the one who demanded the meeting, he should follow up ASAP while MD is in town.
Convinced by whom? Go right ahead and try to convince him since you are so certain.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Don't you know how to reach him? Haven't you been in contact with Mike outside of the WOV forum?
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Originally Posted by kewlJ
Kewlj, Racquet wasn't one of my Socks. Racquet joined in 2013. I found out what WOV was in 2015...
For once your telling the truth. Never did I believe you were racquet. He was used as a stooge.Quote:
Originally Posted by TashaQuote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Kewlj, Racquet wasn't one of my Socks. Racquet joined in 2013. I found out what WOV was in 2015...
Thanks for the vote of confidence. :) Thanks for also backing up me when you agree with me that Racquet was used as a Stooge. We both feel so bad for Racquet....Quote:
Originally Posted by OzzyFor once your telling the truth. Never did I believe you were racquet. He was used as a stooge.Quote:
Originally Posted by TashaQuote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Kewlj, Racquet wasn't one of my Socks. Racquet joined in 2013. I found out what WOV was in 2015...
Who the fuck is racquet?
So here is what I know about the racquet (I may have spelled it wrong earlier) situation. When I returned to WoV last summer, there were a few decent blackjack discussion and this racquet person participated in. You know I like and encourage more blackjack discussion. :) So this person seemed to be indicating that he or she was approaching retirement and intended or was interested in playing low limit advantage blackjack via card counting during their retirement. IIRC, they were interested in maybe making a few bucks and scoring a few comped meals. Pretty reasonable. So there were a couple enjoyable discussions (at least from my end). Nothing too deep about blackjack card counting, just very general.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxPen
Next thing I knew, this racquet person was banned. the reason given was that they were a sock puppet of another member who I didn't recognize. So in looking up that other member, they stopped posting some 6 years ago, and about 8 months later racquet joined and started posting. To me that looks like the original member who never was suspended or had any run-ins simply forgot their handle or more likely password after a number of months away, so they created a new account.
Didn't think any more about it until "fantom" was just banned as being a sock of racquet. And then you had tasha/nathan on 2 different forum, suddenly claiming he/she wasn't racquet, which usually means he/she is that person. :rolleyes:
So I don't know what is going on. It is not my forum and I don't have access to the IP information. If it really isn't tasha/nathan, I still wonder if it wasn't an honest mistake.
But here is the funny part. In just looking at the suspension list, Racquet who was nuked late last year is no longer even listed. It was listed that racquet was a sock of this other member from 6 years ago, but now that entry has disappeared. So I don't know exactly what is going on and am not going to involve myself. I have enough issues staying out of trouble on that forum. I don't need to go to bat for someone that I don't know what it all is about (and may very well have something to do with tasha)
I fail to see your point.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
It wasn't long ago that Mike said people only get one shot on his forum like in life.
Meaning that he will never allow a member who is banned/nuked back on his site.
Obviously he is a Liar like the rest of us.
He let you back.
Even after all your bullshit and continued bullshit.
And I don't see what the connection is between those two issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by monetI fail to see your point.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
It wasn't long ago that Mike said people only get one shot on his forum like in life.
Meaning that he will never allow a member who is banned/nuked back on his site.
Obviously he is a Liar like the rest of us.
He let you back.
Even after all your bullshit and continued bullshit.
It's like I say I won't go outside when it's raining and you say I take showers every day so I am a hypocrite.
Like a specious connection in your mind (getting wet) becomes a hypocritical statement
To be fair, when Kewlj got banned from WOV the first time, Mike got straight up played by someone who he THOUGHT was his Friend and manipulated him into banning Kewlj and then left him high and dry and hasn't even posted at WOV in YEARS. Coincidentally, he STOPPED posting at WOV very shortly after Kewlj's ban the first time... Apparently, Wizard himself admitted he made a mistake in banning Kewlj.Quote:
Originally Posted by monetI fail to see your point.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
It wasn't long ago that Mike said people only get one shot on his forum like in life.
Meaning that he will never allow a member who is banned/nuked back on his site.
Obviously he is a Liar like the rest of us.
He let you back.
Even after all your bullshit and continued bullshit.
On Racquet:
1.) I don't really recall ever talking much to Racquet, but that doesn't mean I didn't.
2.) The Suspension list currently has, "Fantom," listed as Nuked with one of the reasons being that Fantom is a sock of Racquet.
3.) I don't understand what standing there is to question the duplicate accounts. I don't have access to IP addresses and do not Admin the site in any way, shape or form, (except sometimes Nuking blatant spam posts) so can't help you there.
Nobody has even provided a possible motive why any Admin should want Racquet to be Nuked for multiple accounts. I think if anyone is going to accuse the Nuke of being meritless, the least they should be able to do is offer some sort of motive. What possible reason would there be to want someone gone who hasn't posted since December?
4.) Any long time poster/reader at WoV should certainly be aware of this site's existence and would almost definitely know about DiversityTomorrow. In fact, it appears that there is a Racquet registered at DiversityTomorrow as of a few days after Racquet's last WoV post. More than that, Racquet (at DT) was logged in as recently as January (on DT) which is more recent than Racquet's last WoV login.
Conclusion
Aside from some people merely just assuming that nothing from an Admin standpoint is on the up-and-up, it is my opinion that there is no reason to suspect that this isn't and no reason to want to Nuke Racquet aside from actually doing multiple accounts.
Additionally, it seems that Racquet has created an account at DT that is in good standing. That being the case, if the WoV ban is in err and Racquet cares, then Racquet can make this known at DT.
You are only looking at half the story here Mission. You have discovered why "fantom" was banned....for being a sock puppet of racquet. And if this person did that, meaning created a sock puppet after being banned to continue posting, that is against the rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mission146
But I am more interested in why racquet was banned in the first place which took place in December 2020. At that time Racquet seemed to have been a member for 6 years with zero suspensions, and seemed to be a very pleasant member, at least from my dealings. I see no previous suspensions or run-ins.
So when racquet was nuked about 3 months ago, seemingly out of the blue in December, the suspension list listed the reason as duplicate account of "RhodyRob", a name that looked very unfamiliar to me.
So if you go back and look up RhodyRob, you will see: RhodyBob...join date Nov 28, 2013. Last post...August 6, 2014..
Now looking at racquet, you will see: Racquet....join date Dec 31, 2014.
Since RhodyRob has not posted since August 6, 2014 and racquet joined and began posting on Dec 31, 2014, to me it looks as if this person RhodyRob simply forgot his handle or password after about a 5 month absence, so he/she simply created a new account "racquet". If that is the case, the proper way would have been to notify that you forgot your password or whatever, but I mean this looks like it could be an honest mistake. However if Racquet is active at DT, he/she should have contacted mike and straightened it out, so I don't know. That is just how it appears to me.
And the suspicious part now is that the listing in the suspension list that racquet was nuked for being a duplicate account of RhodyRob....has now disappeared completely. :confused:
ok, so the above was posted before I visited WoV today and I see it is being discussed and Oncedear claims there is more to the story...something about PMs.
That is fine. It just looked like it could have been an honest mistake. If it is not...that is fine. I still find it very strange that racquet, participated for 6 years, a pleasant poster, with no issues at the time of the original banning 3 months ago.
Shut the FUCK up cum breath. What could be worse than faking your own death on any forum?
How about MAXPEN exposing the true con-artist COWARD he really is on this forum?
Both of you should get a room together.
You’ve got mental problems man.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackhole
Most people that have the balls to tell it like it is usually pisses of bullshitters. The difference between the two types is obvious if you pay attention.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcapYou’ve got mental problems man.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackhole
So sorry your boy Singer feels the need to disappear permanently in a cloud of humiliation. Maybe you can team up with Man Servant Crimm or something going forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackholeMost people that have the balls to tell it like it is usually pisses of bullshitters. The difference between the two types is obvious if you pay attention.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcapYou’ve got mental problems man.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackhole
The only person humiliated around here is you COWARD.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxPen
No matter how many one paragraph insults you post, everyone here knows you are a confirmed con-artist. Five months of promises equaled five months of con-artist bullshit.
Give us or PM me some personal information on you like Rob did. I’d like the opportunity to even the playing field after the bullshit you tried to pull on Rob.
I’m sure eventually one of your AP pals will realize the skumbag you really are and forward me something, so I could prove how much of a COWARD you really are.
If Dan had any balls, he would ban you on principle for what you tried to do to one of his forum members. Sadly, he’s hooked up with the click here and clearly takes pre-determined sides.
But at least it’s his site. You’re nothing but an anonymous mutt.
Singer slaughtered himself in a futile attempt to prove a pack of lies.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackholeThe only person humiliated around here is you COWARD.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxPen
No matter how many one paragraph insults you post, everyone here knows you are a confirmed con-artist. Five months of promises equaled five months of con-artist bullshit.
Give us or PM me some personal information on you like Rob did. I’d like the opportunity to even the playing field after the bullshit you tried to pull on Rob.
I’m sure eventually one of your AP pals will realize the skumbag you really are and forward me something, so I could prove how much of a COWARD you really are.
If Dan had any balls, he would ban you on principle for what you tried to do to one of his forum members. Sadly, he’s hooked up with the click here and clearly takes pre-determined sides.
But at least it’s his site. You’re nothing but an anonymous mutt.
Would you like me to send you condolences with some flowers?...RIP,,,,,,,
No thanks, just some personal information about yourself please.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxPen
Quote EvenTurd:
"Does anybody else read these claims
and guffaw out loud? I mean c'mon,
does anybody here actually think
this stuff happens? Anybody who
plays for real knows it's fiction"
Absolutely we do buddy...including at your gambling posts. :rolleyes:
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gamb...tz/#post798943Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Not sure how you consider your reputation spotless when you have had 17 felony charges against you?
Doesn't really matter if you beat them every time.
Heck, I'm a bad guy and I've never had one felony charge against me lol.
You have had 17!
Perspective.
Looks like the little man suspended both RED & KJ for “insulting” MD again.
I have to give it to MD, he seems to get what he wants from the guy. As many have asked before, the only question is why.
And why do they keep going back to a place that is obviously so biased against math and treats them like this?
Heck I'm a good guy and I've only got one felony against me. Conviction that is.Quote:
Originally Posted by monethttps://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gamb...tz/#post798943Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Not sure how you consider your reputation spotless when you have had 17 felony charges against you?
Doesn't really matter if you beat them every time.
Heck, I'm a bad guy and I've never had one felony charge against me lol.
You have had 17!
Perspective.
Why they dont just block the nonsense thread and ignore the MF'er is beyond me. These guys have to quit trying to educate the masses. As AP's we need these morons and their stupid stories to keep the suckers engaged and losing their money.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
Mdawg gets what he wants from Wizard because he runs crying like a little baby. But I am going to fight this one because I simply voiced an opinion that Mdawgs posting, with all the claims, and tales of winning and pictures of cash, chips watches, talk of "victory strolls" represents narcistic behavior. That is an opinion not an insult and opinions are supposed to be allowed.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
And to back up my opinion, first day back, I will issue a challenge to Mike in which he can pick 3 psychiatrists and I will pay them for their time to read through MDawgs posts and issue a professional opinion if Mdawgs postings are that of narcistic behavior. If 2 of the 3 believe it is, then I should be entitled to 1) these 5 days back toward future suspensions (which are sure to come) :D, and 2) After each and every one of Mdawgs posts, I should be entitled to post my opinion (backed by medical professionals) that Mdawgs posts are that of a narcissist demonstrating narcistic behavior. So Mike has warning of what is coming. ;)
You should probably just not go on WoV or look at it. That plan is going to get you nowhere. The only opinion a person should have of WoV is that it is not worthy of one's participation. How many times do you have to get clubbed upside the head to understand?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJMdawg gets what he wants from Wizard because he runs crying like a little baby. But I am going to fight this one because I simply voiced an opinion that Mdawgs posting, with all the claims, and tales of winning and pictures of cash, chips watches, talk of "victory strolls" represents narcistic behavior. That is an opinion not an insult and opinions are supposed to be allowed.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
And to back up my opinion, first day back, I will issue a challenge to Mike in which he can pick 3 psychiatrists and I will pay them for their time to read through MDawgs posts and issue a professional opinion if Mdawgs postings are that of narcistic behavior. If 2 of the 3 believe it is, then I should be entitled to 1) these 5 days back toward future suspensions (which are sure to come) :D, and 2) After each and every one of Mdawgs posts, I should be entitled to post my opinion (backed by medical professionals) that Mdawgs posts are that of a narcissist demonstrating narcistic behavior. So Mike has warning of what is coming. ;)
Thank you for your opinion, Maxpen. :D as for WoV "not being worthy of one's participation": And this forum is ?!? :confused: We are all guilty of wasting time and energy on these forums.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxPen
I have no bone to pick with Mike. I have come to appreciate him. Where others see weakness in him allowing me to return when he said he wouldn't, I see a person willing to change their mind, based on changing circumstances. That is what growth is. And I learned something yesterday, that makes me appreciate him even more (at the moment). But I just don't believe these guys, the Mdogs and Singers should be allowed to continually post these fictitious, fantasy claims, that defy the mathematics of gambling without pushback and challenge.
It is bad enough on this forum, where Dan Druff has given up on the forum being anything but a troll forum based on some alternative reality and grade school yard name calling and drama. I like to think WoV hasn't gone there just yet and the mathematics that was supposed to be the basis of the forum still exists. I am actually in a sense trying to protect your buddy Wizard from himself. He doesn't seem to realize that allowing this alternative reality gambling bullshit without challenge is a reflection on him. His silence is a quasi endorsement.
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Originally Posted by jbjbWhy they dont just block the nonsense thread and ignore the MF'er is beyond me. These guys have to quit trying to educate the masses. As AP's we need these morons and their stupid stories to keep the suckers engaged and losing their money.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
I've been educating the masses since I called USA Today back in 1982 regarding their sports service ads. No sense stopping now.
There were some slightly subtle points embedded in the E.R. post I made. I figured Shackleford would suspend me (was kind of hoping, otherwise I'd have to write that stuff every other day). That's why, when I posted the "Semi-Meaningful Contribution" thread about sports betting this weekend, I signed off with "Don't say I never gave you anything."
Anyway, my E.R. post made some highly unlikely but testable claims. Unlike MDawg's posts, the claims in my E.R. post can be verified. I did that on purpose, to point out that what's in my post can be verified independently.
Shackleford is ignoring all math, and math is supposed to be the focus of the site. He's essentially sold out. If I were Axelwolf or whomever, I wouldn't trust Shackleford at all for anything.
The problem is you think WoV is an AP forum. It's NOT. As I mentioned, block the thread and put him on ignore.
KewlJ, at some point you have to wake up and smell the coffee. Shackleford isn't being fooled by anything. He's making anti-educational choices based on his pocketbook or ego. One or the other. He knows it's a reflection on him, and he's sold the viewing patrons up an anti-mathematical river. He should have his scrotum removed post haste. And put in his mouth. Because he's betrayed the cause, more or less.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJThank you for your opinion, Maxpen. :D as for WoV "not being worthy of one's participation": And this forum is ?!? :confused: We are all guilty of wasting time and energy on these forums.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxPen
I have no bone to pick with Mike. I have come to appreciate him. Where others see weakness in him allowing me to return when he said he wouldn't, I see a person willing to change their mind, based on changing circumstances. That is what growth is. And I learned something yesterday, that makes me appreciate him even more (at the moment). But I just don't believe these guys, the Mdogs and Singers should be allowed to continually post these fictitious, fantasy claims, that defy the mathematics of gambling without pushback and challenge.
It is bad enough on this forum, where Dan Druff has given up on the forum being anything but a troll forum based on some alternative reality and grade school yard name calling and drama. I like to think WoV hasn't gone there just yet and the mathematics that was supposed to be the basis of the forum still exists. I am actually in a sense trying to protect your buddy Wizard from himself. He doesn't seem to realize that allowing this alternative reality gambling bullshit without challenge is a reflection on him. His silence is a quasi endorsement.
And he's fully aware -- make no mistake about that. His ability to "change his mind" as you say is simply because you provide expertise for his site that he does not have. So the site benefits...as long as you stay in line and don't hassle the man or whoever props him up.
I mean, c'mon, Shackleford knows what he's doing. MDawg's posts are essentially a parody of AP'ing, and they've gotten more blatant over time. As I said, cut off Shackleford's scrotum and put it in his mouth. That is SOP with Italian entrepreneurs, correct?
It is not an AP forum, but is a forum supposed to be about gambling math and reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbjb
Did you happen to see the post I posted last night with quotes from Mdogs posts for just this trip. Win, win, win, Pictures of cash and chips and watches and talk of winning strolls down the strip. Every session, every day, every trip...win, win, win. That is not the reality of gambling, and defies gambling mathematics of which the forum is supposed to be based.
Interesting and amusing writings??? maybe..somewhat. But lets just be clear that it is fiction and be allowed to say so.
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Originally Posted by kewlJIt is not an AP forum, but is a forum supposed to be about gambling math and reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbjb
Did you happen to see the post I posted last night with quotes from Mdogs posts for just this trip. Win, win, win, Pictures of cash and chips and watches and talk of winning strolls down the strip. Every session, every day, every trip...win, win, win. That is not the reality of gambling, and defies gambling mathematics of which the forum is supposed to be based.
Interesting and amusing writings??? maybe..somewhat. But lets just be clear that it is fiction and be allowed to say so.
The problem at WoV IS NOT MDawg. The problem is Shackleford. Get that through your head. MDawg can't do a damned thing without Shackleford giving him the thumbs up.
In a way, MDawg's posts are, as I said many months ago, really funny in how they have flipped the ostensibly math-oriented WoV on its head. MDawg is parodying the idea that some math-oriented approach can beat the casinos. He's poking fun at all things WoV. He's making a mockery of the site and forum.
I salute him. He's completely undermined the site in a clever way, and with Shackleford's approval. My E.R. post was a parody of a parody, if there is such a thing. Except my parody of a parody had highly unlikely but eminently verifiable specific claims. For example, I did cash in nine consecutive poker tournaments recently, with an average of about 200 people per tourney. And my best finish was second. I can pull that up directly from my account history. So the stuff in my thread, while parody, was real when it came to gambling claims. MDawg can't provide that kind of specific gambling accounting.
So what? Do you do the same to every ploppie at the blackjack tables or is it best to keep shut and let them believe and talk their jibberish?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJIt is not an AP forum, but is a forum supposed to be about gambling math and reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbjb
Did you happen to see the post I posted last night with quotes from Mdogs posts for just this trip. Win, win, win, Pictures of cash and chips and watches and talk of winning strolls down the strip. Every session, every day, every trip...win, win, win. That is not the reality of gambling, and defies gambling mathematics of which the forum is supposed to be based.
Interesting and amusing writings??? maybe..somewhat. But lets just be clear that it is fiction and be allowed to say so.
As far as I'm concerned, the more morons that the Mdawg and Singer types get into casinos instead of AP's, is better for us long term.
Why can't he provide that?Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Come on, you know the saying....."there are other players at the table"? :confused: (I credit that response to 21forme, although Norm thinks he said it first. truth is probably someone else before either. :)).Quote:
Originally Posted by jbjb
But yes, unlike both of them, I acknowledge there are other players at the table (sometimes). Problem is that I can't hear them because of plastic dividers between players. :cool::D
As I said somewhere previously, that attitude is like a doc treating VD deciding to not have pamphlets in his office because it might cut into his patient volume. Maybe he's right; maybe he's wrong. But it's gonna hurt somebody eventually, for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbjb
I tend to tell people when they are doing something blatantly wrong (like betting parlays) as opposed to telling them how to actually do something properly. That's my middle ground. If somebody at kewlJ's table hits on 20, I would expect him to say something if the dealer does not.
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Originally Posted by kewlJThank you for your opinion, Maxpen. :D as for WoV "not being worthy of one's participation": And this forum is ?!? :confused: We are all guilty of wasting time and energy on these forums.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxPen
It is bad enough on this forum, where Dan Druff has given up on the forum being anything but a troll forum based on some alternative reality and grade school yard name calling and drama. I like to think WoV hasn't gone there just yet and the mathematics that was supposed to be the basis of the forum still exists. I am actually in a sense trying to protect your buddy Wizard from himself. He doesn't seem to realize that allowing this alternative reality gambling bullshit without challenge is a reflection on him. His silence is a quasi endorsement.
KJ, you really need to learn to read between the lines. Did you ever stop and think that Mike S is just trying to protect his job? Which could also possibly include a stipend for still using his name in the introductions to the site. There is a reason for that Name Recognition something that Stanford Wong "alias" may also receive. Now keeping that job may be important to Mike S, and, if it means changing some of the rules which are now likely out of his hands anyway so be it. Holding that job is obviously the priority to him. Those people who really know Mike understand what he is going through.
"Taken from WOV site"
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Originally Posted by kewlJ
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Originally Posted by kewlJ
KJ, in giving your opinion you also included the opinion of others as if you are talking for them which I believe got you suspended.
Unless you always play heads up, hat response of "other players at the table" stupid for many reasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJCome on, you know the saying....."there are other players at the table"? :confused: (I credit that response to 21forme, although Norm thinks he said it first. true is probably someone else before either. :)).Quote:
Originally Posted by jbjb
But yes, unlike both of them, I acknowledge there are other players at the table (sometimes). Problem is that I can't hear them because of plastic dividers between players. :cool::D
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Originally Posted by coach bellyWhy can't he provide that?Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Because all online sports betting and online poker playing has site accounting of every transaction and -- unless MDawg has someone watching him play or records every second of his play with time stamps -- MDawg's wagering does not.
But coach, you being such a bright boy and all, how could you not figure that out in 30 seconds or less? You should probably invest 30 seconds in cogitatin' before snapping off brain dead questions. It damages your omniscient rep.
Well unlike you, I want these stupid players doing those things in casinos.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzAs I said somewhere previously, that attitude is like a doc treating VD deciding to not have pamphlets in his office because it might cut into his patient volume. Maybe he's right; maybe he's wrong. But it's gonna hurt somebody eventually, for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbjb
I tend to tell people when they are doing something blatantly wrong (like betting parlays) as opposed to telling them how to actually do something properly. That's my middle ground. If somebody at kewlJ's table hits on 20, I would expect him to say something if the dealer does not.
I think Mike is a bit conflicted, because on one hand he thinks there should be some freedom to say things that might not be true and he doesn't see it as his place to be the "truth police". So lets say someone comes on and talks about Martingale as a winning system, which occurs just about every few weeks in some form. That is fine, let him go on. Mike can afford to stay silent and not play "truth police". Chances are someone will challenge it.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
But when that claim evolves into a 330 page thread, with about 100 straight winning sessions, over many trip over several years, with every trip, every session a winner, there comes a point that Mike needs to step up and say, "yeah that is NOT the way it works". There comes a point that staying silent makes him complicit. Like I said a quasi endorsement.
How does the saying go? Evil triumphs when good men do (and say) nothing? I don't know how much "evil" is in these fantasy, fictitious stories and claims, but there really comes a point that it is time to say something. And I believe that point is long before page 330 of a thread. ;)
I think his live casino play is recorded to the specificity of what's necessary for proof.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
But my question was about your online wagering...MDawg may also have an online record of casino play that he can provide, why couldn't he?
Your online history is specific to whatever site you choose to display, so your accounting only shows what you want to be shown.
And what have you shown?
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Originally Posted by MDawg
I don't know if you guys missed it but two pages ago the above was buried in a long post by MDawg.
Describing Axel both physically and the sound of his voice would mean MDawg and Axel met in the past.
This sounds like more to the story
LOL...You should go ahead and run with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkoz
Not sure what anyone expects out of Mike. He’s a great math expect, like many others on his site. Probably in the top tenth of 1% in the country. But other than that what has he ever done to gain respect or think he is some expert on how to handle normal life situations?
By his own admission, he was a failure at business to the point of begging until the Serbs bailed him out. He says he is a misfit when it comes to interactions with others. He looks like a homeless bum and if I saw him walking on an overpass on the strip I would give him a dollar. He treats women like shit, ogles them and acts like it is the 70’s. The Burning Man shit alone shows he isn’t what most of us consider normal. Some say he may be part autistic, but either way he is a misfit to most of us.
I believe he is doing what he thinks is best to bring traffic to the site and is intimidated by someone like MD. It’s why he suspends people over and over for “insulting” him, but doesn’t follow his own rules for length of the suspensions. In his failed business mind, people like drama and the short suspensions keep them coming back.
And let’s face it, it’s not a math site and honestly MD has proven anything can be claimed there and unless an insult is involved it’s allowed. Anyone (KJ) thinking it’s going to change is wasting their time. But he is right, it is entertaining seeing MD run the site, as I had said for a while. We all love a train wreck and it’s why people don’t follow the good advice JB gives to just block the man.
The thing is, by allowing this nitwit to spew his bullshit it almost gives him the stamp of credibility.
This may not affect the gambling behavior of we "seasoned" forum members, but what about the newbies, the lurkers, who read his drivel and start to believe it could happen to them?
Therein lies the danger: the proliferation of "false hope" among the clueless and the gullible, and lord knows there's a shitload of those folks wandering the casinos.
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Originally Posted by MisterV
It is good for business and AP's. I agree with you that MDawg spending a few hours with Dan Druff will solve nothing regarding variance.
WOV members are permitted to disagree with or disprove MDawg's claims without resorting to insults.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
That's fair.
From what I've read so far, all the experts have concluded that MDawg's claims do not defy math.
The detractors must find that fact so frustrating that they can't help but treat him unfairly.
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Originally Posted by coach bellyLOL...You should go ahead and run with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkoz
Not even a denial.
Yes, this is true. jbjb is correct in what he says that for selfish reasons, AP's are better of saying nothing and encouraging more idiots into the casino. So too were those members on other forums that I learned from and you recently concurred that you learned a lot from. From my perspective, thank goodness they didn't have jbjb (and some other APs) attitude.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoSox
BoSox, you and I like to help out newer players. Steer them in the right direction, if you will. It is fine if other AP's don't share that. But for god sakes, we should call out complete nonsense as complete voodoo nonsense....especially after 300 pages of it. :D I know it is a bit old fashioned and not something seen much on this forum, but there is just a principal of right and wrong for me.
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Originally Posted by coach bellyI think his live casino play is recorded to the specificity of what's necessary for proof.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
But my question was about your online wagering...MDawg may also have an online record of casino play that he can provide, why couldn't he?
Your online history is specific to whatever site you choose to display, so your accounting only shows what you want to be shown.
And what have you shown?
Stop babbling, coach. I said in my parody post that E.R. cashed in nine consecutive poker tournaments. I can pull that up and show it. Now MDawg has undoubtedly claimed to have won nine consecutive hands on many occasions. He hasn't shown it.
As far as your other, oblique point, a sports bettor could win a million at a dozen different sites and have lost 12 million at the one he doesn't show. So nothing is demonstrated that way. What constitutes the best proof of sports handicapping winning are public ATS records stretching over years or decades.
LOL -- but I'm glad you babbled, coach. You bring up an excellent point. MDawg has never mentioned playing online. That's beautiful. Thanks, coach. That is actually a key point in this whole discussion.
Coach, sometimes you stick your foot in it. This is one of those times. Now we get to debate why MDawg has never mentioned betting online. Gee, is it because he can't read a digital flow of cards? Is it because there'd be hand-to-hand complete accounting at every site? I mean, if you win at baccarat, what makes online baccarat a different animal? Seems like easy money. And there would be total, hand-to-hand, day-to-day records that would demonstrate that MDawg magic.
Coach, thanks a bunch, buddy. Never thought of you as an MDawg debunker, but you've made major contributions.
I see your point.Quote:
Originally Posted by quahaug
Nicely Done!
You guys love it over here on this Hate Site don't you!?Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzKewlJ, at some point you have to wake up and smell the coffee. Shackleford isn't being fooled by anything. He's making anti-educational choices based on his pocketbook or ego. One or the other. He knows it's a reflection on him, and he's sold the viewing patrons up an anti-mathematical river. He should have his scrotum removed post haste. And put in his mouth. Because he's betrayed the cause, more or less.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJThank you for your opinion, Maxpen. :D as for WoV "not being worthy of one's participation": And this forum is ?!? :confused: We are all guilty of wasting time and energy on these forums.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxPen
I have no bone to pick with Mike. I have come to appreciate him. Where others see weakness in him allowing me to return when he said he wouldn't, I see a person willing to change their mind, based on changing circumstances. That is what growth is. And I learned something yesterday, that makes me appreciate him even more (at the moment). But I just don't believe these guys, the Mdogs and Singers should be allowed to continually post these fictitious, fantasy claims, that defy the mathematics of gambling without pushback and challenge.
It is bad enough on this forum, where Dan Druff has given up on the forum being anything but a troll forum based on some alternative reality and grade school yard name calling and drama. I like to think WoV hasn't gone there just yet and the mathematics that was supposed to be the basis of the forum still exists. I am actually in a sense trying to protect your buddy Wizard from himself. He doesn't seem to realize that allowing this alternative reality gambling bullshit without challenge is a reflection on him. His silence is a quasi endorsement.
And he's fully aware -- make no mistake about that. His ability to "change his mind" as you say is simply because you provide expertise for his site that he does not have. So the site benefits...as long as you stay in line and don't hassle the man or whoever props him up.
I mean, c'mon, Shackleford knows what he's doing. MDawg's posts are essentially a parody of AP'ing, and they've gotten more blatant over time. As I said, cut off Shackleford's scrotum and put it in his mouth. That is SOP with Italian entrepreneurs, correct?
Be honest, you guys are Closet Haters.
I get it.
Spot on Boz, other then his expertise in mathematics, he seems to be completely ignorant and oblivious to many other things, including dealing with people in general. It still amazes me, the respect he gets from a handful of rational sound minded posters, mostly its from brownosing ignorant fools with no spine/ backbone. The old kiss ass saying of "Mike's house his rules" gets me every time LOL. Then you have guys like "Mr hypocrite Thank You Man Roger Kint" thanking him on a regular basis for his bullshit power tripping suspensions. What a chump!Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
You haven't shown anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Nobody believes you, or believes that you can pull that up and show it.
Anything you show can and will be faked anyway,
but go right ahead and do what you said you could do.
Call the clock.
If MDawg plays online, then he can provide the same accounting
that any other online player can.
Does he play online? Who knows? Why not? Maybe he prefers the perks of live play.
Go right ahead and debate it.
But his accounting from live play is equivalent of anything you can provide,
and infinitely better than what you have provided...which is zero.
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Originally Posted by kewlJYes, this is true. jbjb is correct in what he says that for selfish reasons, AP's are better of saying nothing and encouraging more idiots into the casino. So too were those members on other forums that I learned from and you recently concurred that you learned a lot from. From my perspective, thank goodness they didn't have jbjb (and some other APs) attitude.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoSox
BoSox, you and I like to help out newer players. Steer them in the right direction, if you will. It is fine if other AP's don't share that. But for god sakes, we should call out complete nonsense as complete voodoo nonsense....especially after 300 pages of it. :D I know it is a bit old fashioned and not something seen much on this forum, but there is just a principal of right and wrong for me.
First on the story that I asked you to share on WOV regarding the time period that you shared with your late partner I was sincere that I thought that the post was really good. As long as you understand that you and I are on completely different sides regarding sharing of your journey.
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Originally Posted by kewlJ
I do not like you saying that jbjb is selfish it is the other way around. jbjb's actions are that of a professional where I see the need of a narcissist in action all the time from you. I wanted to put this up on WOV's site but you always seem to be suspended, I still may call you on it when you come back. Now please tell everyone how the fuck sharing the journey every fucken year is teaching newer players. Saying bullshit like you just said a few days ago " I am proud of it " could not be more stupid or selfish as it gets. Look in the mirror buddy if you are looking for narcissistic behavior. And you actually stating that casinos know that AP's beat the game as an excuse while telling your style of play, where you play and you are always welcome back is a sickness buddy. By the way, how can you teach newer blackjack members when there is basically only one active blackjack board and you cannot currently post there? I am ashamed of your actions of blackjack and am sick of you always ducking the questions.
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Originally Posted by coach bellyYou haven't shown anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Nobody believes you, or believes that you can pull that up and show it.
Anything you show can and will be faked anyway,
but go right ahead and do what you said you could do.
Call the clock.
If MDawg plays online, then he can provide the same accounting
that any other online player can.
Does he play online? Who knows? Why not? Maybe he prefers the perks of live play.
Go right ahead and debate it.
But his accounting from live play is equivalent of anything you can provide,
and infinitely better than what you have provided...which is zero.
You stepped in it, buddy. You walked right into it of your own choosing. What was it you were saying -- anything worth proving should have some moolah on the line? Sounds good, coach.
No need to post it up. For a proper wager, I'll come to you and a witness (Dan would be fine) and pull up my poker account with the nine consecutive cashes.
And on the flip side, I don't think anybody witnessing a historical record of MDawg's online play is going to happen. Not if it's a session with more than a couple hundred hands.
I just checked. My hand history setting is 30 days -- I guess that's the default. Fortunately, my nine consecutive cashes have been in the past week.
As an aside, and to give proper props to Witteles, I suck at poker. Professionals would make my head spin. My theory is that, during the pandemic, a lot of bad players are spending time at the online tables. I played in a 1 AM bounty tournament and cashed 18 out of 25 this past month. Not making any real money, but it is surprising to cash that often.
Oh yes there is, post it up here or at whatever site where everybody can see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
The same as MDawg has done without compensation from the readers.
There's no conditions or backing out now...go right ahead and do what you said you could do.
I'll wager the value of your credibility...which is zero.
Nothing wrong with being selfish over AP. As Axel would say, this is a wolf eat dawg world.
Why do cats constantly express amazement being displayed on the wizard forum, hey hey?
Everything maddog posts is suspect, most especially alleged screenshots.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach belly
C'mon, are you new to the internet?
I'm aware that some consider MDawg's posts to be suspect.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
But nobody can deny his effort....so MDawg is the current standard based on effort alone.
Guys like mickey and monet used to give maximum effort,
but they got tired of getting shit on and stopped sharing.
I get the impression that MDawg is much younger, he'll get tired of getting shit on too.
It would be great if we could get some closure with this guy,
but the flies w/honey vs vinegar concept seems to be lost with the APs.
No biggie...I'm just a soul whose intentions are good,
Oh Lord please don't let me be misunderstood.
I am pretty certain MDawg is in his forties somewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyI'm aware that some consider MDawg's posts to be suspect.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
But nobody can deny his effort....so MDawg is the current standard based on effort alone.
Guys like mickey and monet used to give maximum effort,
but they got tired of getting shit on and stopped sharing.
I get the impression that MDawg is much younger, he'll get tired of getting shit on too.
It would be great if we could get some closure with this guy,
but the flies w/honey vs vinegar concept seems to be lost with the APs.
No biggie...I'm just a soul whose intentions are good,
Oh Lord please don't let me be misunderstood.
It was last year he said something that dated him.
That puts him less than a decade younger than me
Good one coach
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bw7RTUEZMyg
Nobody cares about you, asshole.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkoz
Either get lost or get found.
I'm not going to go searching for it, but do I recall a post where he said or indicated he was younger. Then I remember seeing him posting videos and pictures of things that only someone much older would be posting.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkozI am pretty certain MDawg is in his forties somewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyI'm aware that some consider MDawg's posts to be suspect.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
But nobody can deny his effort....so MDawg is the current standard based on effort alone.
Guys like mickey and monet used to give maximum effort,
but they got tired of getting shit on and stopped sharing.
I get the impression that MDawg is much younger, he'll get tired of getting shit on too.
It would be great if we could get some closure with this guy,
but the flies w/honey vs vinegar concept seems to be lost with the APs.
No biggie...I'm just a soul whose intentions are good,
Oh Lord please don't let me be misunderstood.
It was last year he said something that dated him.
That puts him less than a decade younger than me
Do you all need me to get on the MDawg case and put him out of business as well? :)
You should do some MaxPen on that Blackhole and then leave your wad all over the Coach BellyQuote:
Originally Posted by MaxPen
LOL, that's good: seems original as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach belly
*golf clap*
maxpen kept saying he would go to arizona but never did. He had the invitation from Singer. But he didn't go. Now he's saying he's got major shit on Singer but won't post it. The bullshit just keeps on flowing. Hey, it's Santa Claus, tooth fairy, man in the moon stuff. Oh, and don't forget the unicorns. maxpen is going to produce them all. You betcha.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackholeThe only person humiliated around here is you COWARD.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxPen
No matter how many one paragraph insults you post, everyone here knows you are a confirmed con-artist. Five months of promises equaled five months of con-artist bullshit.
Give us or PM me some personal information on you like Rob did. I’d like the opportunity to even the playing field after the bullshit you tried to pull on Rob.
I’m sure eventually one of your AP pals will realize the skumbag you really are and forward me something, so I could prove how much of a COWARD you really are.
If Dan had any balls, he would ban you on principle for what you tried to do to one of his forum members. Sadly, he’s hooked up with the click here and clearly takes pre-determined sides.
But at least it’s his site. You’re nothing but an anonymous mutt.