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Sounds like a fun trip RED. Big Elvis is always a blast, last time I was there he had a new younger assistant. Didn’t see the Col Parker guy who was with him for years. You should have walked over to Casino Royale for possibly the last time, rumors it’s going away but no confirmation yet.
I did not know that, Boz. Damn. The Love/volcano looks had that sad nostalgia sense to them as they were last looks. I did not know the Heart Attack Grill had survived the pandemic. There had been a place across the street from it, a kinda hip lesbian-oriented karaoke bar called Don't Tell Mama's, that had closed. Wish it had survived. I have some friends in bands who'd go in there and do a song or two. One friend did A-ha's "Take on Me" in there a few years ago and knocked it out of the park. Real difficult song to do well.
No Green Door tour. LOL. Maybe next time. Driving anywhere off strip is a hassle.
At some point, I'll add a segment about what I did after Dr. Beck left. Went out to South Point to field a buffet lunch session with any VCT luminaries who wanted a lecture on why "EV" should not be applied as a term in sports betting unless discussing arbitrage, bonuses, or in past tense. Dr. Beck, by the way, taught college sociology courses that emphasized probability analyses of data. He was the probability go to guy for undergrads. Obviously not an adjunct prof -- not that there's anything wrong with that -- LOL. He was actually on the committee to choose Western Hemisphere Fulbright scholars.
You've added "past tense>" Why did you do that? LOL
[QUOTE=The Boz;178054 You should have walked over to Casino Royale for possibly the last time, rumors it’s going away but no confirmation yet.[/QUOTE]
I recall playing craps at CR back when they had what I'm pretty sure were the highest ODDS on the PL in sin city: 1000 X IIRC.
But I heard that since then not only are the odds gone, so are the craps tables?
Say it isn't so!
[QUOTE=MisterV;178070]They pulled all table games after Covid. You are correct about the odds years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz;178054 You should have walked over to Casino Royale for possibly the last time, rumors it’s going away but no confirmation yet.[/QUOTE
Basically a slot parlor now with a White Castle and a crummy foot long hotdog place in the back. However they still have $3 bottles of beer, up for the $1 deal they ran for years. And they have whom I consider the hardest working bartender in Vegas, Mark at the bar.
I have much better memories of places now gone like O’Sheas, Westward Ho and Boardwalk but I’ll still miss this place when it’s gone.
Casino Royale lost the charm years ago. Used to play table games there. When I lived in LV and had my last bender gambling before I moved back that was the place.
I've always said that if you want to use past tense, have at it. I've probably said that 20 times just on this forum. It's not coin flipping, so as the caveat goes, past results are no predictor of future outcomes.
I think Munchkin set the stage for me using a simple line like "past tense." I had a whole spiel ready for him as to why "EV" was not appropriate terminology for predicting sports betting profits, but when the topic was introduced, he more or less shrugged his shoulders and said something like you should only use that past tense. It seemed obvious to him. That summed it up admirably, and no further discussion was needed. It's obvious that if "EV" is just a past tense descriptor and is no predictor, there's no real utility in using it as lingo regarding expectations going forward.
What was the place on Fremont back pre-Y2K that had a really cheap but decent breakfast?
I seem to recall walking downstairs to it, in a casino.
My first couple years in Vegas (moved here in late 2009), I didn't drive. I lived in a condo at Flamingo/Koval and played the strip and off strip places like, Terribles (now silver 7), Hooter, Orleans, Gold Coast, Palms. And I would take the bus downtown to play a lot. Eventually I started taking the bus to different Station casinos and South Point.
But every early on, the first year or two it was about the strip and Downtown (via bus). Almost every day, my path to the strip involved a stop at Casino Royale, coming or going. Then cut through Imperial Palace and out the back door, by the area that is now built up to include the High Roller, pass by and stop at Westin, for a few minutes on the dealers angels game.
At Casino Royal, I would do that free promotional spin, both coming and going looking for the $5 match play. Eventually the guy working that machine outside, would save up any discarded MP's that people threw away. The tourists were looking for the free drink. So maybe I would get in 4 or 5, $5 MP's Small time stuff but it all added up. In those days I was really "grinding". Made about the same (annual EV and win) as I did later on, just worked a lot harder to get it.
And the cherry on top back in those days was the $1 or $1.25 (maybe $1.50) foot long hotdog at Casino Royale. ;)
It is so idiotic. You can't know the EV of bonuses without knowing the EV of every bet involved in clearing the bonus. I suppose you could just bet randomly and calculate off that? Then it becomes the type of event where EV clearly works? lol
You also don't know the EV of something AFTERWARDS. That is far more nonsensical. So you have the results of an event and what does that get you? I'd like to see that explained in depth. lmao.
The problem is Redietz just doesn't get so much. Ignore him.
Yessirree, Bob. The guy who's been doing this for 50 years doesn't get it, but the youngster "APs" (and mickey) grasp it all. Indubitably. They must be using a whole different kind of math. You know, the kind that folks teaching college probability or getting perfect scores on math SATs just can't grasp.
Reading is a lost art. I am willing to concede "EV" might be useful to figuring bonus advantages. I am being nice.
And I completely understand that using the term "EV" afterwards is self-contradictory, a bit of an oxymoron. Again, I am being nice. I thought Munchkin, however, was spot on. Past tense is where it belongs vis-a-vis sports betting.
If you guys want to stagger through your Fred Flintstone bet-bet-bet lives thinking you can seriously apply a term like "EV" with any kind of useful precision to sports betting, be my guest. You don't even understand the basic construct that is a pointspread.
Not my job to explain the obvious.
And was it really necessary to hijack the thread? I mean, really -- a thread about a simple trip, featuring one simple futures bet and some adventures around town. I mean, what the hell, account gets to LV what, every few years? Mickey can't handle the place these days. So you insert some pseudo-expert idiocy into a thread that is a trip report?
Sounds like it was kinda a boring trip. Sociologists, not strippers. Anyways, now that the trip is in the past, how much EV did you accumulate?
Singer calls them phantom bucks, by the way.
Do you mean the old breakfast in the Gold Spike? I used to get 2 for 1 coupons and eat two. I didn't worry about cholesterol in my 20's. Or the 11 PM to 6 AM $3 to $4 deal at Binion's? You must mean Binion's with the downstairs coffee shop. That was a great, great coffee shop. No better place to be at 2 AM than that coffee shop. An action place, sometimes with famous folks. It was a nice place.
LOL. No "EV" accumulation for me. May as well stash "thoughts and prayers" for a rainy day. I did play some at the Plaza, hoping for a few offers down the road. Made one medium-sized future wager at Circa; not sure how I feel about it. I definitely got the best number anywhere, and the number will not improve, so that I feel was firmly correct. The actual team -- a bit of high-brow speculation. The number caught me by surprise, so I wasn't necessarily ready to fire.
The dogs were .99 years ago then went to $1,49, $1.99 and now $2.49. Add in the $1 beer and it was a cheap stop for those on a budget and the homeless that wouldn’t rather spend the money on a higher ABV “bum can” of Steel Reserve or Hurricane.
I remember the free play they offered for signing up years ago was like $75 or $100, but with a catch. It could only be used on special machines setup by the booth and they returned next to nothing. Total scam but brought customers through the door.
Also the place had, and still has some of the worst restrooms on the strip right up there with Flamingo. O’Sheas wasn’t any better either but at least they had the Piss Off machine where you could measure your piss for a quarter. Damn, I miss the Vegas of even 15 years ago.
And of course ... as it goes without saying .. absolutely no attempt to actually engage the subject. So typical. Wise as I would destroy this old fool.
Redietz, I get it you know someone who had a perfect SAT math score but I also got a 800 SAT score. Another one of your trolls got a 800 on both sections. Lots of people got an 800 on the math portion. Great the guy was good at academia. He learned how to suck dick. I get it. Lol. Why do you think anyone on this forum gives a fuck?
Anyway folks. It is beyond clownish.
I'm still wondering how EV works in past tense. This makes so little sense to me. You can't determine EV beforehand but somehow after the event occurs and you know the outcome then you know the EXPECTED value?!?! How!??!! hahaha... what?
Can anyone else argue Redietz's point? He clearly can't... lol
You should probably contact Richard Munchkin. Argue your point on his show. LOL.