I was just told that Ariana Grande will be the performer at Caesars Palace for the New Year's Eve party. "Who?" is what I said.
Rob Singer -- you might be right. I might not be going back to Vegas this year.
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I was just told that Ariana Grande will be the performer at Caesars Palace for the New Year's Eve party. "Who?" is what I said.
Rob Singer -- you might be right. I might not be going back to Vegas this year.
Wow -- I am stunned, and I knew who she was. She's more of a "Nickelodeon New Year's" performer. She's young, as in real young. I thought she was still a teenager, but I just looked it up, and I guess she's actually 22.
Don't get me wrong, she can sing, which is a rarity these days with pop stars. But for Caesars on New Years? Interesting choice.
I just found out she's the one who tasted donuts at the Temecula donut shop and made anti American comments. Now I'm in shock.
Most of her fans aren't old enough to gamble, so it's an outside the box choice, to be sure.
I made a mistake. She was the one who licked the donuts on the counter at the donut shop in Lake Elsinore near Temecula and made the anti America comments.
I asked around and yes she is best known among those too young to gamble.
Maybe Caesars is campaigning for a 16 year old minimum for gambling?
Caesars Palace will not be my New Year's Eve destination this year. And as a friend of mine told me in a phone call "she needs a lot of image reconstruction."
I hope they keep her out of the buffet.
So Caesars doesn't understand their customer base?
Shocking!
Never have I been so happy to be overcomped and not invited to the New Years festivities.
Two years ago when Katy Perry was there for New Year's they had the special concert in a ballroom in the Augustus Tower. Maybe they will do that again with this donut-licking, anti-America comment making youngster? And if that's the case is there another show in the Colosseum?
Last year Jennifer Lopez was in the Colosseum. I wonder if they think AG will also fill the Colosseum the way JLo did?
I think Caesars has changed what customers it wants, which is why there are now $10 craps tables and a new club and penny slots and pet friendly rooms. They don't want serious gamblers anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
I remember that report about her donut-licking and anti-American comments. When she realized she got caught and it was on tape she immediately apologized yada yada yada. Nothing came of it because the only ones who have any interest in her are teens. Just another dumbass foreigner/minority. But also a POOR choice for a Caesar's NYE entertainer. What responsible adult cares anything at all about seeing her (unless she licks more than donuts :))
For the record: she was born in Boca Raton, Florida.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Some might argue that Florida is no longer part of America because of all the foreigners who now live there. I guess you could also argue that America is no longer America since (with the exception of the American Indians) all of us -- or our parents or grandparents -- came from somewhere else.
That's right. The Indians spontaneously generated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
The natives aren't true natives either. They're Asian.
And S. California is just an extension of Mexico anyway.
Back to the topic at hand. I actually do think Alan is correct here (and --for the record, BG -- I hope this does not count as too much ass kissing). Caesars Palace, as opposed to CET in general, has decided they want a different customer. Now here's what I do not understand, and perhaps you CET aficionados can explain it. I always understood Harrah's, now CET, did not want serious gamblers. They were always the antithesis of Binions. But Caesars Palace kept its identity somewhat as the last CET bastion for classier higher-end serious gambling. To assign this performer for the biggest, highest profile night of the year suggests they are tossing everybody over 30 out of the window.
Comments, criticisms?
You have to remember what Vegas is becoming. Less of a gambling town and more of a young party city.
redietz I agree with you. jbjb I agree with you.
New Year's Eve party -- what's the captive audience? Is this something anyone can go to with charged admission? Or is this an invite-only type of party? If it's invite-only, then it's most likely a bad decision, since those who would be invited would almost certainly not be interested in Ariana Grande performing. If it's an anyone-can-go with charged admission kind of a thing, I don't think it's all that bad.
RS__ you are a dealer in Vegas?
Caesars restricts the tickets to its list of Seven Stars and Diamond players. Tickets are not for sale to the general public.
This is the entertainment that comes with their ballyhooed NYE event for their best patrons.
This popped up on my facebook page one day.
I don't think she's that much younger than Katie Perry...who I've read is someone's dream come true.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss9ygQqqL2Q
Oh pleaseeee. She doesn't come close to my love Katy Perry.
Thanks for posting. Now I definitely don't want to see her.
They also don't invite all Seven Stars to this -- only the ones they feel are worth good money to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
I have never been invited to one of these concerts, despite being a Seven Stars member since 2012.
From what I understand Katy Perry demanded in her contract that I had to be right under her at the stage two years ago. ;-)
Got an email invite to Caesars on NYE with Celine as performer in the colosseum.
I received that as well and IMMEDIATELY booked it. There were other options including Britney at Planet Ho and Olivia Newton John at Flamingo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chimp
There is no dinner included and Celine's show is at 7:30pm, which means the show will probably let out about 9pm. The question will be dinner? At midnight this year watching fireworks on the Strip which is fun.
What I am going to do tomorrow when my host gets in is determine what the options are for a late dinner.
I have no idea why anyone over the age of 35 would ever even CONSIDER being in LV for NYE, let alone going to see an American-hating minority or someone they've already seen. Oh....must be because they're being helplessly reeled in to get their gambling fix.
It's an experience, Rob. I don't say it's necessarily an ENJOYABLE experience, but it should be seen once a decade or something.
I flew in about 15 years ago so that I arrived an hour before midnight west coast time. The flight was cool because people were celebrating. I arrived at the bridge between NYNY and Luxor just in time for the fireworks.
Of course, being a cheap bugger, I had nowhere to stay, but into each life a little rain must fall. By the following evening, suites could be had for less than the usual price of regular rooms, and I stayed and had a good time.
Where I wound up staying New Years Eve is a story for another time. It wasn't pretty.
There are two choices for me for NYE -- stay at home and watch the ball drop on TV or go to Vegas. Over the last 25+ years being at home was the winner most years. I even avoided Vegas eight years in a row after one miserable weekend when I couldn't get my room cleaned by housekeeping. But seeing Celine and having Nobu and a steak from Ramsay or Old Homestead all within steps of each other can easily beat TV at home and a pizza. I'd be crazier staying in LA and driving to a restaurant here.
Rob the world and Vegas are not filled with gambling addicts.
Red, the experience is why I asked. I've been there twice for NYE and it got worse the 2nd time. Lesson learned.
Alan, the world & LV are not filled with gambling addicts. Forums are. And have you ever considered actually PAYING for a nice meal out near home?? I hear there's a few good ones in Calif.
You said staying in LA and driving to a restaurant is crazier than driving to & from LV? That's the video poker machine in you talking.
Gwen's birthday dinner cost $400+ at a trendy restaurant on Melrose. Afterwards we looked at each other and said it wasn't worth it.
I think my driving experience to and from Vegas at the times I choose beats local LA driving always. LOL
The one and only time I was in Vegas for NYE, I stayed in my hotel room which was nowhere near the strip and watched movies. Holidays are just another day of the week to me. They mean nothing.
Here's where a host can come through for you: my host just got me my dinner reservation after Celine on NYE. Last night when I rushed to book the Celine package with the phone number on the email I was told that dinner reservations were not yet available for NYE.
I like being in Vegas for NYE.
Have a nice meal... hang out in the Augustus Tower room at Caesars near midnight, and watch the fireworks in the warmth and comfort of the room, away from the crowds.
Also last year I took my son to go sledding at Mt. Charleston.
Two years ago after the Katy Perry concert we went outside to watch the fireworks. Caesars had its entrances closed so we got to stand in the driveway. The problem with the fireworks is that after a few minutes there is more smoke than fireworks above you. I think that's a function of the weather, however. (Last year the JLo concert ran till about 12:30-am.)
Nothing beats saying "ooh" and "ahh" at the fireworks. The other "negative" is having to dust off the ashes that fall on you. So be careful not to have your mouth open in awe as you watch the fireworks overhead.
You can see fireworks on the 4th of July that are equal to or better than those in LV just about anywhere. Going to LV to see them is just another excuse to gamble. And watching them from inside a hotel room out the window is the same as watching them on a TV. Kids enjoy them for sure. I'm not sure what the draw is for adults that have seen them many times over.
Alan, I take my wife out often, and we have a great time whether we spend $500 or ten bucks. It's all in the company, and whether or not one feels a bit agitated because they cannot be their happiest unless they're in a casino environment. Vacations are another telling barometer.
That person is simply following protocol on making sure their surprise $100k winner is given every opportunity possible to hand it all back in any way possible. And while on this subject, it baffles me severely how a 25c/$1/$2/$5 player who suddenly chooses to play a $25 machine and hits a royal within a few hands, can even seriously suggest that he may not end up a winner by year's end. Check your numbers--or your post--again. It doesn't add up, even on mickeycrimm's old calculator.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
LMAO! Good one!Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Rob a friend of mine who reads this forum asked me "why is Rob Singer so miserable?" I didn't know how to answer him.
She's of Italian descent (Ariana Grande). She may be anti-American, but she is an American.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Still, I'd never go see her in concert or buy her music.
Just sayin' Alan. No way your posts and claims could ever make you a loser by this year's end. You've said there'll be no more $25 play, so your numbers and proclamation that you STILL MAY BE A LOSER can't be real.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Is this a mean post? Only if you don't like the tough questions. Most people here either don't care or are too afraid to bring any of the hard issues up. And they certainly don't want to talk about addiction because there isn't one 7-Stars here who doesn't have a gambling problem.
Thank goodness I'm not 7* or even a TR member anymore.
I don't understand why it matters to you or anyone else what I win or lose each year. I am not the great Rob Singer who has a rivalry with Bob Dancer. I have nothing to prove to you or to anyone else. I never claimed to be a professional, and only said I was a recreational player. I do not depend on gambling winnings to support my lifestyle or even to pay my bills. I have a successful career and I am still working and not a retiree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
For the record I said I will probably show a profit this year. If I do it's between me and the IRS. And I pay my taxes honestly.
That's it Alan. You choose to say a lot of things about your play and whether you win or lose. On a forum, those posts beg for comments. And when the postings don't make sense, they beg for even more.
If I'm somehow mistaken, I can handle it. If someone says something wrong about me, life goes on without a hitch because these are opinions and not life-changing events. If I choose to mock someone like that idiot vegaslover foreigner here in my spare time, I can hug my grandchildren immediately afterwards and not miss a beat.
For instance, your lady friend chimp. We saw a number of big hits from her a while back. We also saw she couldn't stop playing those slots. Is she an addict who got lucky? Of course. Is she now kicking herself for losing so much of it because of a false sense of confidence? Very likely.
Am I in some sort of competition with Bob Dancer? I hope not! Look at the facts: he's a divorcee who treats women badly, he has no children due to a life of extreme selfishness, he needs to "put his creep on" and very awkwardly talk about sex in just about everything he gets involved with for some twisted reason, and he won't ever be able to stop working because of his gambling habit.
I'll take Manhattan.
Rob, you may be right about a good many things, but you may be wrong about a few things, too.
Calling out individuals you do not know, like chimp, about being an addict is an overreach. You said you think that most Seven Stars players are addicts of a sort. I actually agree with that statement, but here's the thing. Virtually everybody in American culture is addicted to something. What makes you the judge of which addictions are acceptable and which are not? What makes you the judge of what expenditures are acceptable and logical and correct and which are not?
For example, is anything more wasteful than buying a motor home? It's like wearing a bunch of gold chains that burn gas -- a lot of gas. But you chose to buy the thing and drive it, a very questionable use of resources from any practical perspective. Are you addicted to the ostentation of the thing?
Now, your buying the motor home, a decision, and your driving it, a behavior, were your choice. Both are blatant consumerism, which is an addiction. Why is your consumerism a better choice in your mind than Seven Stars' gambling? People devote resources to what they are driven to consume. Spending resources on the experience of gambling is no more objectively wasteful than spending it on giant depreciating motor homes, or petrol, or an array of solid gold chains.
It's all nuts.
Now do not get me wrong. I despise casinos for what they are, and I prefer people blow their cash on motor homes and gold chains than in casinos, but my personal tastes have no objective weight. To a poverty stricken person from Ethiopia, or someone from a thousand years ago, and maybe to someone from a thousand years hence, it's all a very odd use of resources.
Wow. Rob, I understand that you are using me as an example to Alan, but wow. As Red said, you don't even know me, and here you are calling me an addict. A lot of you here are much more thick-skinned than I am and are constantly jabbing back and forth at each other. But I take your comment personally and it hurt.
I initially started reading this forum to gain, and hopefully give, some knowledge about CET, Vegas, gambling, etc. and to enjoy stories that members share. But it has become mostly a vehicle for bashing each other. I don't want to be a part of that.
Chimp no one wants any part of the bashing that goes on. Rob has a problem -- he knows it and I've told him that for years. I told him in phone calls and to his face SEVERAL TIMES that he is his own worst enemy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chimp
On a more important note: today, Caesars Palace started sending out confirmations to anyone who already booked New Year's Weekend, and along with the correct confirmation emails were old confirmations from earlier in 2015. I received two other emails in addition to the confirmation for New Year's. In addition, the confirmation for New Year's Weekend was incorrect and I had to verify it with my host.
take note.
How many times has he been banned and unbanned here?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
I believe it's been twice.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS__
I can't say you're totally wrong red, except the extreme point about the RV. While they are overall a great big loss once they're driven off the lot and they require significant resources just to drive around let alone maintain properly, they have nothing to do with addiction. It's a one off purchase, similar to a home.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Gambling OTOH actually is a vice that keeps on eating away--and a bad one for those who choose to overdo it. Seven Stars is a club of addicts and as we'vs all scene so many times right here, these folks are so roped in to that system that they just can't help themselves. The result? Obviously, a club defined by losing, griping over perceived entitlements, and then whining & cursing when called out for making inconsistent, feel-good proclamations.
I should be getting paid for making suggestions like people use a vp approach similar to mine or that Alan lock in his first profitable year ever by STAYING AWAY FROM CASINOS THE REST OF THE YEAR INSTEAD OF CONSTANTLY MAKING UP THOSE WEAK EXCUSES OF WHY HE JUST HAS TO KEEP GOING TO LV. Instead, the 7-Stars crowd doesn't care and just cheers him on the path he's always been on. I see something that makes no sense and I post about it.
Chimp, tough love. You know what you're doing and now so doesn't everyone else. When someone gleefully posts several unusually high winners then explains going back several times to the hi limit slots while suddenly no more big hits, only a loving mother would look the other way on that. And then we have Alan, who not only tried to tell us how acceptable it was to blow ten grand after winning big--his justification story did not bode well for holding onto that profit by year's end.
This is a place for opinions, comments and questions. You let it get to you then go for a swim instead.
Roll Call: who has filed bankruptcy because of big gaming losses?
I haven't.
I know what I am doing. You do not. And everyone else here does not. And just because I have not posted more jackpots does not mean that I have not had any.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Chimp Rob is an angry man who hates casinos and anyone who enjoys them.
it needs to be a third and final time..
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
He'd be great on the mic in WWE.
The BEST place to be NYE in Vegas is... the 10 pm dinner seating on the patio at (Paris) Mon Ami and watching the fireworks from your table at midnight.
Best Seat in the house!!!!
Dillpic834 thanks for joining and posting. The last few NYEs in Vegas the temperature was about 30 degrees. Dinner outdoors??
Probably under heaters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Still, I prefer to watch it from the Augustus Tower in Caesars.
Nice and warm, no crowds, and great view.
After staying in Bellagio a few times, I would suggest that a great in-room view would be a fountain (strip) view room at Bellagio where you can get a full view of center strip. The August view only gets you looking one way on the strip.