This is just some music to go along with the theme of the title. Message two has the thread subject matter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eHQvQeH4qg
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This is just some music to go along with the theme of the title. Message two has the thread subject matter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eHQvQeH4qg
I was in one of the Stations properties last night and swiped this! Get it? Swiped!? It appears the Future is Upon us or is it already here!?
This topic was brought up in the other thread and I figured this is where we can all discuss Cardless Connect if we so choose.
"Future Games."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttliVM44Ilc
I did a thing last night
You know those future games
I turned off all the lights
Oh, the future came
You were by my side
Will you explain-oh yeah
Real rhyme or reason for those future games
Now you were there last night
And oh were you afraid
Of things we'd come upon
While playing future games
But baby it's alright and so have faith
Oh yeah, you invent the future that you want to face
How many people sit home at night
Wondering if they will be here tonight
Wondering if children will he bring to the light
Inherit the world, or inherit the night
Wondering if neighbors are thinking the same
All of the wild things tomorrow will tame
Talking of journeys that happen in vain
Well I know I'm not the only one
To ever spend my life sitting playing future games
You better take your time
You know there's no escape
The future sends a sign
Of things we will create
Baby it's alright
And so have faith
Oh yeah, you invent the future that you want to face
How many people sit home at night
Wondering if they will be here tonight
Wondering if children will he bring to the light
Inherit the world, or inherit the night
Wondering if neighbors are thinking the same
All of the wild things tomorrow will tame
Talking of journeys that happen in vain
And I know I'm not the only one
To ever spend my life sitting playing future games
Future games
I know I'm not the only one
I guess GuyIncognito lost the over.Quote:
Originally Posted by monet
No fair! You were past posting as you have probably known this has been over there for some time!?Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayI guess GuyIncognito lost the over.Quote:
Originally Posted by monet
Actually no Monet, I am in Northern Nevada and didn't realize it hit down there. To be fair to Guy Incognito, if someone would have told me it was going to hit the day after I posted on it, I would have also taken the over (I was thinking 5 years down the line). So I too am experiencing Future Shock (great synth riff groove from the great Herbie Hancock):Quote:
Originally Posted by monetNo fair! You were past posting as you have probably known this has been over there for some time!?Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayI guess GuyIncognito lost the over.Quote:
Originally Posted by monet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkhTGV_ikZA
Now speaking of VP, my friend was down there (Vegas) six months ago and ran into a casino on Boulder Highway that had OEJ paying 16 to 1 instead of 15 to 1 on the 4ofaK. He didn't remember where he saw it (or if the StrFl and WildRoyal were shorted to make up for it - that's the key), but said he would look for it again next time he's down there.
I was referring to tech being mandatory, as opposed to available.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayI guess GuyIncognito lost the over.Quote:
Originally Posted by monet
Yes, I know. I was ribbing you. I don't think it will be mandatory for 5 years or so (and even then only at the large chains like Stations, CET, etc.). In the meanwhile, cardholders will be looked upon with greater scrutiny than smart phone virtual card users IMHO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guy IncognitoI was referring to tech being mandatory, as opposed to available.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayI guess GuyIncognito lost the over.Quote:
Originally Posted by monet
Assuming multiaccounting can net you thousands a month, I'd assume people would just use burner phones to circumvent this, anyway.
Oddly enough I was just ribbing you ever so slightly as well. Truth be told, this cardconnect has been with that Casino for awhile now. I am not sure how long because I didn't care to notice but since it was brought up on the forum I figured I would take notice. I certainly would not want to run multi accounts with a bunch of burner phones. It is bad enough carrying around hundreds of cards on my person or in the car or at the house. I don't even want to begin to imagine trying to have a bunch of phones to take care of.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
I listened to the song Mr V but it sure was slow and I don't think I could listen to it again. I really only posted that other song because the title was the same as this thread title but if you want to get into "Future" titled songs I would have to go with the album the "Future" title by the late, great Leonard Cohen. Incidentally the man passed away by the very common occurrence of falling down.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
Very powerful lyrics like Give me back the Berlin Wall, Give me Stalin and St. Paul... Give me Christ or Give me Hiroshima!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsmWYhmTc64
Me neither, but I agree with Guy Incognito that some people will do it. I'll just focus mostly on cardless vulturing at the corporate chains once the smart phones take over. And then the rest of the plays will be at the small places that will always use a physical card or are cardless (where the slot attendant keys you up with credits when you redeem a promo or inserts a voucher if they at least have TITO).Quote:
Originally Posted by monet
"Time keeps on slippin', slippin', slippin', into the future" - Steve Miller Band.
I like a redneck drunk's future.
Future on Ice
Hank Williams Jr.
https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=Az_6...7I0dqXdDcYQ2E-
I like quotes from the past. Adapting to new circumstances will only be a problem for a few.
Physicists define matter as the atomic and subatomic particles composed of energy in various fields that slow it down enough for us to see it. Hence, the "grand illusion". Thing is, though, what we see is merely another illusion whether viewed as matter or energy. The illusion, itself, is but another illusion. What we see, as we glance across the universe, only appears to be a continuous, full cross section of it. Matter, and continuity, however, are by definition fundamentally different from that view. The underlying reasons for what is where when. Specifically, future now past.
I get the message. I think the quote, from Jefferson, could of just stopped with the first two words... (Don't Talk). You may have just told me or others to STFU ha ha. If you study Jefferson and you won't have to study very long. You will find that he most likely meant in that small quote you quoted that actions speak louder than words. It appears that he was always suggesting not to talk but to act because that is when we find out who the individual really is. The quote you quoted is a little bit misleading or confusing to a layman like myself. After some consideration I do believe that your quoted quote is guidance to be a man of action compared to a man who talks. If one followed your quoted quote verbatim they would have a hard time speaking at all since they couldn't talk about the past or future. I suppose they could talk about the present but that would be difficult since the present doesn't last very long. Bill Yung might be able to elaborate how the past, present and future are all illusions in actuality?Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxPen
Not bad MC. I suppose this is a matter of personal taste. I didn't really enjoy Fleetwood Mac's song but I do enjoy Hank Senior or Junior from time to time. This song and Hank Williams Jr many times seems like crossover music like Country/Rock or like this one which had a Country/Blues feel to it??Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Yung
Smash your finger with a hammer and tell me it's a "grand illusion."
Actually, your body went out of its way to put extra nerve endings (to and from your brain) in your hands and dick.
Yamaoka Tesshu, as a young student of Zen, visited one master after another. He called upon Dokuon of Shokoku.
Desiring to show his attainment, he said: “The mind, Buddha, and sentient beings, after all, do not exist. The true nature of phenomena is emptiness. There is no realization, no delusion, no sage, no mediocrity. There is no giving and nothing to be received.”
Dokuon, who was smoking quietly, said nothing. Suddenly he whacked Yamaoka with his bamboo pipe. This made the youth quite angry.
“If nothing exists,” inquired Dokuon, “where did this anger come from?”
Things exist just long enough to say they don't exist.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
Unlike science fiction, or the real thing, it's supposed to not make sense.
Attempting to discern some meaning from these obtuse statements is like trying to grasp smoke.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Yung
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_MaJDK3VNE
Yes but as you undoubtedly learned in law school, obtusity in this or even in a parallel realm of reality is conjugated by rather simplistic yet archaic pulses of entropy that is undeniable, yet it vexes the inner being so as to create figurative stipulated flocculation and literal thixotropic truisms
How so? A vacuum cleaner with a good filter can do that. Or an electronic air cleaner.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
Smoke is easy. Matter and dimension are harder to come by. Are there any completely empty spaces, or completely full materials? Then, can certainty, or its opposite, uncertainty, really exist? We are surrounded by compromises, and even paradoxes. Those are a dime a dozen. And on the scrap heap of talk.
Or is it our insecurity that drives us to feign and surround ourselves with our own whimsical laws and wishes? Can there be one right law of any sort to do anything? Political situations are dealt with to the letter of a so-called law regardless a democracy or other political structure. We reign in ourselves, or wait for others to do it for us. There is no book of life with the standard, definitive answers at the back. Yet we strive for such, and in such vainly pompous manners. The price of being yes-boys to universe.
The simple fact is that we are born and we experience our perceived surroundings through our several senses.
There will always be unanswered questions.
But the only relevant question for us here today is simply this: how should we best live our lives?
Paradoxes be damned; we must survive.
That is a biological imperative, the ultimate instinct.
We order our world as best we deem fit in order to feed, clothe, and shelter ourselves; everything else is optional.
Deep thoughts are fine, when life affords the luxury to dwell on them.
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Originally Posted by MisterV
Mr. V, this is Editor Bob. I feel obligated to point out that survival of genes, not individuals, is the ultimate biological goal. Food, clothing, shelter are all optional proximate goals. The ultimate goal is ongoing genetic survival.
Which is why the Prez, banging all these hot women, is such a stellar example of biological leadership. Claiming you'd run into the withering fire of automatic weapons while opting out of 'Nam due to bone spurs -- all in service of genetic representation. The claim gets you laid. The bone spurs let you get to the ripe old age of 70 while getting laid. A genius plan; a genius self-presentation. Of course, the plebes have to buy it, but that doesn't seem to have been a problem.
The killer’s AR was a semi-auto. The president didn’t exactly claim he would run in there, he said he believed he’d do it. Bluster to be sure. Even stupid you might say. But, to see all the misquotes today in print is kinda sad.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzQuote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
Mr. V, this is Editor Bob. I feel obligated to point out that survival of genes, not individuals, is the ultimate biological goal. Food, clothing, shelter are all optional proximate goals. The ultimate goal is ongoing genetic survival.
Which is why the Prez, banging all these hot women, is such a stellar example of biological leadership. Claiming you'd run into the withering fire of automatic weapons while opting out of 'Nam due to bone spurs -- all in service of genetic representation. The claim gets you laid. The bone spurs let you get to the ripe old age of 70 while getting laid. A genius plan; a genius self-presentation. Of course, the plebes have to buy it, but that doesn't seem to have been a problem.
Oh, c'mon.
He'd send in a couple of his Secret Service agents, had he actually been there.
Pre-presidency, he'd send in a body guard, if anyone.
But the notion that draft dodgin' Donnie would actually man up and grow a pair is simply too hard to believe.
He's got the roar down, I'll hand him that.
I’m not saying that he would actually do it. Some people would, most would like to believe they would.
I want to be clear on my personal standing regarding this. If I'm armed with a handgun, and I'm a school guard, there is no way on God's green earth I am going into a building with an unknown number of shooters toting AR-15s. You don't even have the shooter(s) identified at that point. And if you are an adult wearing a uniform of any kind, you are an instant priority target. If the shooter(s) is from the school and knows you, he also can identify you as an armed guard. So you are walking into a scenario with shooter(s) who have you massively outgunned, you can't easily identify them, and they can instantly identify you. It's suicide.Quote:
Originally Posted by dannyj
A trained LEO should be able to enter a school in that situation and work his way toward the shooter, using classrooms/classroom doors to leap frog from cover to cover until he sees the shooter and can take him down.
Arm-chair quarterbacking is just so easy.
He wasn’t just a school guard, he was a sheriff’s deputy. I don’t claim to know exactly what happened or what he did or didn’t do. I’m just going by what the sheriff has claimed the deputy didn’t do. Tough job indeed, but he signed up for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzI want to be clear on my personal standing regarding this. If I'm armed with a handgun, and I'm a school guard, there is no way on God's green earth I am going into a building with an unknown number of shooters toting AR-15s. You don't even have the shooter(s) identified at that point. And if you are an adult wearing a uniform of any kind, you are an instant priority target. If the shooter(s) is from the school and knows you, he also can identify you as an armed guard. So you are walking into a scenario with shooter(s) who have you massively outgunned, you can't easily identify them, and they can instantly identify you. It's suicide.Quote:
Originally Posted by dannyj
I agree with MrV in that a trained officer would work towards the shooter taking cover where possible but always moving forward, knowing that each shot they hear could be the end of another life.
Hence, the need for strategies to deal with this.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
There is no best way. The reason that there is no God; or a God who doesn't intervene. He wouldn't/doesn't know, either.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
Though a placement and understanding of paradox is helpful, those can all be cancelled out, eg, as are various mathematical infinities.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
Genes die out, too. Not even the human species was always here. There has to be more to it than even life.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
Comfort first, just behind the state of the economy. The bigger the economy, the bigger the army. At least that's how they do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
Deep thoughts dispel the want of superficial luxuries.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
Oh?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Yung
Why?
I accept the proposition and seeming reality that we are but a fortuitous grouping of chemicals which give rise to the spark of consciousness.
While I may yearn for more, I do not see that as viable.
"Be here now:" - Ram Dass
"That's all, folks!" - Porky Pig
We are what we eat, etc, but consciousness isn't similarly varied. Some have better brains than others, or better arms for swimming, but we are all as much "here" in the self, though to varying degrees of physical and mental alertness. Chemicals alone can't account for this. People don't have olympic or world-class consciousnesses. But then, how is consciousness distinguished?
It appears we may soon develop quasi-sentient AI; hello, Terminator.
Certain primates may be approaching sentience; hello, Planet of the Apes.
Running headlong into the abyss.
some live life to the fullest while they have the chance and others in their armchairs, as pseudo philosophers sit and wonder why, what and how.
i drove 7 hours round trip today to reno, to check in on the house(there was some light snow, and i like to spread salt to avoid a lawsuit) and make a few bets.I left at 8 am and got back at 3:30.
And not once did I wonder if life is a mutual masquerade as the existentialists submit, or if god loves me as the religious folks might , nor did I question what is real within the realm of quantum mechanics.
I took in the visual sights, listened to some tunes, some sports talk radio as well, stopped off for a snack......enjoyed every bite......and never once thought if "we are alone" or "whats the meaning of life"......I was too busy enjoying life .
I let the armchair philosophers in their make believe smoking jackets, smoking their make believe pipes do all the wondering. They can site atomic theory..doesnt matter....because stomic theory today will be shot to hell in 20 years....just as it was after I learned it in the 70's. We think we know.....but we dont know. Today we draw conclusions based onwhat are facts today, but down the road what we thought were facts....were just mere wrong observations based on incomplete information.
thats why the armchair philosophers of today make me smile. There is way too much missing information in this world,...and I am not going to discover it by sitting in the armchair blowing smoke. And there is way too much living to do rather than draw conclusions on the state of life in this world, while pondering the inponderable.
The point I think is not so much to "ponder the imponderable" as it is to "discern the discernable."
Socrates said that "An unexamined life is not worth living."
Horses work hardest with blinders on; should people be any different?
I try to live my life without bullshitting myself about the important stuff, which includes asking some questions which have no satisfactory answer.
Not "what is the meaning of life:" I figured that one out long ago.
The only meaning of life is to reproduce and nurture your offspring until they too can reproduce.
Full time APs, theologians all serve society with equal value.
Hey mom, I am bringing homr\e my boyfried.....he is a full time AP
Hey mom, I am bringing home my boyfriend...he is a stay at home theologian
Hey mom I have HIV
not words any parent wants to hear
Socrates said that "An unexamined life is not worth living."
ummm thats a nice declaration.....but maybe he was wrong. Or maybe he was prone to overstate things. Maybe thats an exaggeration. I know I know..its fucking Socrates.....what he says has to be valid. Maybe a less famous but equally astute theologian, Benji said "an examined life is a waste of time"
A horse with t he blinders removed will not spend his time examining his life. He will spend his time seeing and experiencing more of his world
A great Benjamin (Franklin) said the following (I have it inscribed on a framed plaque, something passed on from my mom):
"He that would live in peace and ease must not speak all he knows nor judge all he sees."
another declaration as if handed down by god. Its funny that these people never start their declaration with "In my opinion" or "it can be argued" or "I may be talking out of my ass, but,,,,,," 0r "for what its worth"
or "you may disagree but......" or I am a pompous ass so full of myself, but......."
You could say the same thing about all the "advice" in the Bible, e.g. "Judge not, lest ye be judged" etc.
Ever notice that the only people of REAL socio-political consequence in human history have been the folks giving out this advice?
Jesus, Mohammad, Moses come to mind.
Yes, their teachings are wrapped and bundled as religion, but in the end it's just fairly sage advice.
Advice from the bible is usually attributed to "devine" entities. So if you believe they exist....then you cant go againt it or question it. That is the fall back argument for all religions when people question. You cant question the words of an all knowing "god".
There was a british theologian, not to well know, named alfie
and I remember the question posed to him
"Whats it all about"
I am not sure what the answer was, but I am sure it was as profound and valid as Socrates, Franklin, or Stan Hart.
The answer's 42. I thought we all agreed on that.
AI is an excellent example of lots of ability but no consciousness. At the other end of the scale, the odd person whose language skills never developed still has an internal language; and a lot of psych patients consciously linger in a mind which doesn't work. You could pick people you think are more consciously aware, but I suspect that, on average, those persons would be average, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
The basic thing about consciousness is its seemingly quantum non-locality. It's not seated in any particular part of the brain or body. Astronauts experience this in zero gravity.
And it's this so-called quantum nature of consciousness that allows us to solve non-computational problems. Furthermore, it's easier to define what is computational, and then add something new to such a set of rules (or manner of construction of rules) to prove that no one set of rules can solve every problem.
true, but remember
your sperms in the gutter, your love's in the sink
Ha, not bad. It's 24 (dimensions)! Which reminds me of an old Ramanujan polynomial of degree 24 to do with L-functions. I wish I could remember it. Will have to ask around.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Don't forget your towel!Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
"In my opinion" you should take your own advice here.Quote:
Originally Posted by LarryS
I guess I went to WOV by mistake. I intended to go to vegascasinotalk but somehow ended up here.
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Originally Posted by quahaug
More of a mixed metaphor than a paradox?
or viaduct
http://www.rebelcircus.com/blog/vali...-eating-semen/
The tip of the iceberg of modern sexual practices.
Oh come on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Yung
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RC8wEqUHA2Q