This question comes from AxelWolf but several other forum members also want to know about the night at Golf Strike and Caesars.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
By the way include the fifth $4,000 payoff.
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This question comes from AxelWolf but several other forum members also want to know about the night at Golf Strike and Caesars.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
By the way include the fifth $4,000 payoff.
I was writing a reply... Then I found a folder called "Royal Weekend" on an old photo hosting site I used to use... Just a moment...
This is how I remember the weekend. I found photos from a folder on an old photo hosting site that I labeled "Royal Weekend" They are date stamped, and I think I can figure the time but not sure... This was the weekend of March 24th 2012.
Alan Mendelson and myself were driving to Vegas. Just before we hit Gold Strike, Cold Play La Vida came on and he said "This is my favorite song" so I said "Lets stop at Real Coins, it must be lucky."
We stopped. I put $100 in the $1 Double Bonus progressive and hit it for $4317
Then we continued to Caesars..................
We got to Caesars and I played some $10 Bonus and hit 4A's for $4K and Alan said "That is like hitting a Royal!"
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I played that $10 machine for a while until I went almost busto...
I wandered around and found what is my new favorite VP machine... 3 Way Action Poker. I don't think they have it in Caesars anymore, the only place I know where it is now is Red Rock.
I hit this and I couldn't figure out why it paid so much so I snapped a photo. I later found out that 4OAK + 3OAK pay a lot!
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I proceeded to play this game for a long time... I hit 4AWK on the Draw line which also paid on the 7 card hand for a hand pay...
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I played more on the machine, moved up in limit and hit a 7 card royal. This only paid $2K even though I was betting $10 per hand. If this was on the Draw line it would have been $8K
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I continued playing it...
I was dealt 4K's for a $1700 hit...
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I decided to move on. Stuck $100 in a 3 line $5 machine. I hit a Royal on the 3rd line for $4K
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Then I went back to the $10 bonus machine... $2.5K
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The last photo from the trip....
Another $10 straight flush for $2.5K
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I didn't recall the royal on the three line game.
And what was the net on this 24 hours?
This is all the photo evidence I have. I think this covers all the hand pays or significant wins. I feel like there was another Royal in there but I can't imagine not taking a photo of it. Even back then...
I do remember going home with $30K in W2G's and putting over 40,000 total reward points, this is before they did bonuses...
dat CRT monitor!Quote:
Originally Posted by SLaPiNFuNK
Was this the weekend I hit the $8K Royal as well?
I remember four royals plus another $4,000 win. I have no recollection of the straight flushes but was good to see the pictures.
We were sitting side by side when within a second of each other we both hit royals. You for 8 and me for 4. On the machines facing the restrooms. Different weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLaPiNFuNK
I don't recall that. I recall something else from this weekend where I was really nervous about having about $6K in my pocket...
Getting back to the "royal weekend." Perhaps my memory is off from six years ago. What was your net result from all that play?
Net loss... Probably -$500Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
And just to be sure you're not criticized I want to remind everyone that when you hit the progressive royal at Bellagio for $26,000+ you had a net profit over $20,000 and I think you also hit for $4,000 on TDB at Gold Strike on the ride home.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLaPiNFuNKNet loss... Probably -$500Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Yes, this trip with you I was stuck waiting for you to leave. So kept playing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan MendelsonAnd just to be sure you're not criticized I want to remind everyone that when you hit the progressive royal at Bellagio for $26,000+ you had a net profit over $20,000 and I think you also hit for $4,000 on TDB at Gold Strike on the ride home.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLaPiNFuNKNet loss... Probably -$500Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
The Bellagio I was on my own so was able to leave when I wanted to...
I hit for $26K at Bellagio. Had some other hand pay 4OAK's. Took a check for $20K home. Had $8K. Went to the $100 Wheel of Fortune. Put over $6K into it and didn't get a single spin.... On the way home I stopped at Gold Strike and hit 4AWK on a 5 line $1 Triple Double Bonus for $4K and ran out.
There was a time I got to Rincon with you. First $100 in the $1 progressive I hit for $4.5K ish... I wanted to leave, you wouldn't leave, I sat and watched you for a while, then got bored, started to play and left with a net loss.
Losing it back happens to all of us. Even the APs.
When I hit something significant, like a $4,000 Royal, I take it in the form of a check. Since I cannot stuff a check in the machines, I am essentially forced to leave that trip with a profit.
Thanks for the photos.
FAB
Partially true. I am not familiar with doing that, except during the 6 years I was a "strong" ap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
So if you hit the royal during the first hour of play, and you're in Vegas for a weekend, is that the end of your play?Quote:
Originally Posted by FABismonte
Exactly what payscales were you playing when you were an "AP?" What denom? Did you work cashback and for what amounts? Could you explain the details of the promotions you worked....if you worked any?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.SingerPartially true. I am not familiar with doing that, except during the 6 years I was a "strong" ap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Thanks for taking the time to post all this. I would say congratulations on all the nice hits, but since you lost I don't know what to say. 3-way action is a rough game as far as variance and I can't imagine most people know the correct strategy for that game or even come close.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLaPiNFuNK
Correct me if I'm wrong, I only see one legit single line Royal flush? I wouldn't have counted the 3-way action RF since I believe the cycle is much shorter than a regular RF cycle. I would have stated it can't be any special games. But Let's count the 3 way-action RF for argument sake. Hell, let's toss in another Royal for the hell of it. I'm still not counting 5 Royals, even if we tossed in the multi-line Royal.
Your father said you hit 5 SINGLE LINE royals in one day and still lost. I called BS many times. He insisted it happened many times. Your Father Alan was as sure that it happend just as sure as he was that he seen 18 yo's in a row. FYI: The and still lost was not even the biggest issue as far as I was concerned. It just made it even more unbelievable. He even went so far as to propose a bet with me and said something about having you come on and show the w2g's. I didn't even know who you were at the time so I wouldn't make a bet that relied solely on someone posting up some pictures of W2'gs. I would have needed a little more proof than that as far as a bet goes.
There were some people who thought it might have happened, but I never believed it one bit. I didn't even think you had hit 4 in one day.
I'm sure people have, I just didn't think your Dad was telling the truth(way too many gambling big fish stories), and it seems as if I was 100% right.
Thanks for being honest.
I guess the apple actully does fall VERY far from the tree.
Well AxelWolf I guess I was wrong about all the single line royals. I hope you're very happy now. Congratulations.
Hum, Alan didn't tell the truth? Dishonest? Lied?
Perhaps I am being too harsh. Maybe he just exaggerated a bit. He has been known to do that.....18 y.o.'s in a row ya know. ;)
Kewlj I know you want to call me a liar and dishonest. It comes as no surprise. So go ahead. Bask in the spotlight.
YOU ABSOLUTELY LIED, AND BY BIG FACTOR. He hit 2 single line Royals...NOT 5!!!! And one shouldn't even count since it's not what you were trying to imply when you made the statements. It would be like me saying I hit 10 single line royals today but I didn't explain they had wild cards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
It's just like I thought, when you want to make a point you just make up numbers(who know what other shit you make up, or is it just numbers?). How can you expect us to believe anything you say!!!??? NVM, we never really did, but at least now you can't claim with a straight face that you have journalistic integrity and therefore you should be believed. Anyone that ever actully thought there was a chance you seen 18 yo's in a row(all 3 people) can now be assured you made that shit up, just like you did this.
According to my estimate on how badly you lied about the 5 royals, I have to estimate you only actully seen 3.6 yo's in a row.
What was he trying to imply?Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
Yes, the over/under on the number of yos Alan actually saw in a row is about 3.5
I don’t think he deliberately lies. I believe he thinks he is honest. His memory is just hazy and selective.
So very tempting. I'll behave.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
I said many times Jason hit four single line $4,000 royals plus a fifth $4,000 pay in 24 hours. I was wrong. Jason raised the question that he might have hit another royal without a photo but he doubts it.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyWhat was he trying to imply?Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
He did come home with $30k in W2Gs and unfortunately he did finish with a $500 loss. I still would call it a great run.
I've known players who dropped thousands playing in one night. Even losing $8800 when they thought they were playing with an edge.
Your point was that he hit an unusual amount of big winners in one day,Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
and still finished with a loss?
You saw him hit for $4K and commented "that's the same as a royal",
it's understandable that some years later you'd remember that as a royal.
No big deal, but it's really been bugging what I understand to be a very little man,
for a very long time.
That his son hit 5 single line royals on a standard 5 card draw poker game and still lost. IIRC someone even did some kind of calculation given an estimated number of hands(I could be wrong about that). Failing to mention he was also playing 30 coins(that probably accounts for some of the loseing that happend) on a high variance game on a game that probably has a short cycle is shiesty.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyWhat was he trying to imply?Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
But let's count it anyways. It's still not even close to the 5 Royals in 24 hours that he claims happened.
Axel: Do you believe I hit three $2 royals and four aces w/kicker on a single line $2 machine at South Point in one hour and 45 minutes, including all the waiting for the handpays...and do you believe I'm no longer welcome there to play?
Alan, I don't care that you exaggerated the number of your son's royals on this trip. It is human nature to remember things incorrectly, maybe a little better than they were. This plays into "selective memory". I have long suspected that was the case with the 18 Y.o.'s in a row. I suspect you saw some, I don't know how many and the "tale" just sort of grew. :rolleyes: And once the math was explained, you probably didn't know how to back track. I am trying to give you the benefit of doubt here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
But in many other instances during my year here, selective memory, nor exaggerating wasn't part of the equation. You just flat out lied and manipulated things said, pictures taken, just about everything. I can not give you the benefit of doubt on these. You intentionally have been dishonest and manipulative.
Now, moving on, I enjoyed seeing Jason's jackpots and hearing of this trip. I always enjoy trip reports and such. But there is one thing, I find odd. For the year I have heard about this trip, every time Alan mentioned it, he emphasized that Jason did not win despite hitting a number (exaggerated number) of Royals and various other hand pays. When I say emphasized, it is almost as though Alan takes pride in that, in some odd way. Alan does similar when he talks about never having had a winning year including years that he hit 100k Royals. It just seems like he says that with some bizarre sort of pride. Maybe it's me. :confused:
Maybe it IS me. Being an AP, the fact that Jason didn't win on this trip, is the bottom line to me. Maybe I just don't know how to look at it from a regular gambler's view point. The regular gambler might say, I played, hit all these Royals and other significant hand pays, and came close to breaking even while having a fun trip. I just can't relate to that. :rolleyes:
Anyway, so tell me how the holiday dinners go. You guys (Alan and Jason) sit around reminiscing about such a trip, talking about the all big payouts, maybe show a few pictures. And then someone in the family chimes in and asks what you did with the winnings and you respond "No winnings, I lost money". :confused: Just seems odd to me.
But I did enjoy reading about it. Thanks for posting and going back and locating the pictures. :)
Yes, I do belive all of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Kewlj if I was a liar and manipulative and dishonest I would have said Jason hit five royals and went home with $20,000. Instead I was being honest and said he finished with a small loss.
Just like I hit two $100k royals in one year and I finished with a loss. I could have lied about winning. I had the photos of the W2Gs and the royals posted on this forum. I easily could have claimed to have a profit and you wouldn't know the difference.
You call me a liar but I think I'm the only one who is honest.
Lets take a look at where this all started. https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/ques...ds/#post383979
I will post up some key points. It seems like Alan is allready making up shit about what he said just to make it sound better. I should just wait and let him make up more shit.
mrjack9
mrjack9
Joined:May 18, 2011Threads: 3Posts: 9August 5th, 2014 at 10:23:10 PMpermalink
Hi Guys
I recently returned from a Las Vegas vacation and would like some help analyzing my video poker results. Over a ten day period, I averaged 5 hours of play per day, and estimate that I played around 300 hands/hour (I know that's pretty slow - I like to socialize). My game is double double bonus and I usually play 50 cent or 1 dollar (5 coin). Over a ten day period I hit three royals:
50 cent/5 coin, dealt 4 cards to royal, $2000
25 cent/ 10 coin progressive, dealt 4 cards to royal, $4300 (rounded down)
1 dollar/5 coin, dealt 2 cards to royal, $4000
My question: what is the probability of hitting this many royals during this period, out of this many hands?
Thank you in advance!
Pics available upon request. Two of the royals (#2 and #3) were on the same machine (!)
AlanMendelson
AlanMendelson
Joined:Oct 5, 2011Threads: 85Posts: 3126August 6th, 2014 at 12:53:48 AMpermalink
Nice hits.
A couple of years ago my son hit five $1 royals (single line machines) in 24 hours but came home with a net loss. Each royal cost him about $4000.
I'm guessing you came back with a net profit?
I read just enough to see that you made a lot of assumptions,Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
and then accused Alan of misleading everyone based on your assumptions.
If you were so sure that what he was claiming could not be true,
then why didn't you bet him when he offered to prove it?
It would have saved you many nervous days and sleepless nights obsessing over it,
and we'd have never heard about again...instead of reading you milk it for 4+ years.
AxelWolf
AxelWolf
Joined:Oct 10, 2012Threads: 121Posts: 14368August 6th, 2014 at 5:25:42 AMpermalink
If this was a standard VP machine. I just can't believe this.
AxelWolf
I respect Alan but .... this is way out of the norm. Perhaps he played some obscure game like draw till you win or 2nd chance royals.
Alan could have stopped me there and said it was not all standard VP.
But NO!!! Alan goes on to say this...
AlanMendelson
Joined:Oct 5, 2011Threads: 85Posts: 3126August 6th, 2014 at 8:30:23 AMpermalink
What don't you believe? Five royals in 24 hours?
First one was at Gold Strike at Jean. Next four came on different machines at Caesars. All single line, $1 denom. Almost non stop play.
Since there are W2Gs as proof care to challenge me with a small wager?
After confessing it was not all on$1 single line...Alan goes on to say this... I edited some of the other crap out.
I don't understand the question about travel time. Jean is abput 20 minutes outside of Vegas. Four royals at Caesars. One at Jean.
Regarding the original post it was true: he lost it all.
Did you even read my post Alan? If you did, perhaps you didn't understand it. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Let me ask you this....when you were a kid and took the bus to school, was it a "short" bus? ;) Seriously, you seem to have difficulty comprehending what has been said. You ALWAYS hear what you WANT to hear.
I didn't say you were lying about any results. THAT is Axelwolf saying that. I tried to give you the benefit of doubt, suggesting selective memory, which is human nature.
I thought Alan said he doesn't make personal bets? Just more shit he makes up. I said before, I am not going to take w2'gs as proof from someone I don't know(I had no clue who his son was at the time). For enough money someome who is in a bad financial situation might fake some w2gs, especially if they have a craps addiction. Had I known more about his son I would have taken the bet.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyI read just enough to see that you made a lot of assumptions,Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
and then accused Alan of misleading everyone based on your assumptions.
If you were so sure that what he was claiming could not be true,
then why didn't you bet him when he offered to prove it?
It would have saved you many nervous days and sleepless nights obsessing over it,
and we'd have never heard about again...instead of reading you milk it for 4+ years.
I'm just showing what happened that weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfThanks for taking the time to post all this. I would say congratulations on all the nice hits, but since you lost I don't know what to say. 3-way action is a rough game as far as variance and I can't imagine most people know the correct strategy for that game or even come close.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLaPiNFuNK
Correct me if I'm wrong, I only see one legit single line Royal flush? I wouldn't have counted the 3-way action RF since I believe the cycle is much shorter than a regular RF cycle. I would have stated it can't be any special games. But Let's count the 3 way-action RF for argument sake. Hell, let's toss in another Royal for the hell of it. I'm still not counting 5 Royals, even if we tossed in the multi-line Royal.
Your father said you hit 5 SINGLE LINE royals in one day and still lost. I called BS many times. He insisted it happened many times. Your Father Alan was as sure that it happend just as sure as he was that he seen 18 yo's in a row. FYI: The and still lost was not even the biggest issue as far as I was concerned. It just made it even more unbelievable. He even went so far as to propose a bet with me and said something about having you come on and show the w2g's. I didn't even know who you were at the time so I wouldn't make a bet that relied solely on someone posting up some pictures of W2'gs. I would have needed a little more proof than that as far as a bet goes.
There were some people who thought it might have happened, but I never believed it one bit. I didn't even think you had hit 4 in one day.
I'm sure people have, I just didn't think your Dad was telling the truth(way too many gambling big fish stories), and it seems as if I was 100% right.
Thanks for being honest.
I guess the apple actully does fall VERY far from the tree.
He wrote a "small wager".Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
You're a clown...I hope you're drunk, otherwise you're a tewl of a different dysfunction.
How many times have you called me a liar, dishonest, manipulative, a shyster and anti semite slurs? You expect me know to accept your selective memory explanation? Or should I consider it a euphemism for liar, dishonest, manipulative and shyster?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJDid you even read my post Alan? If you did, perhaps you didn't understand it. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Let me ask you this....when you were a kid and took the bus to school, was it a "short" bus? ;) Seriously, you seem to have difficulty comprehending what has been said. You ALWAYS hear what you WANT to hear.
I didn't say you were lying about any results. THAT is Axelwolf saying that. I tried to give you the benefit of doubt, suggesting selective memory, which is human nature.
ALL that was said at WOV, it was also discussed here. He had lots of time and chances to find out the truth, then come clean or says he might be mistaking. did he? Nope, he just kept tupleing down. What's the difference between just making up shit and lying? How can he have made such a big mistake? He didn't make a mistake, he wanted to prove a point (as if he knows about gambling and he's MR. ain't nothing I haven't seen in gambling, I have seen it all)and he just made shit up. When he was called on it he could not back down and went all in with the BS.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJDid you even read my post Alan? If you did, perhaps you didn't understand it. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Let me ask you this....when you were a kid and took the bus to school, was it a "short" bus? ;) Seriously, you seem to have difficulty comprehending what has been said. You ALWAYS hear what you WANT to hear.
I didn't say you were lying about any results. THAT is Axelwolf saying that. I tried to give you the benefit of doubt, suggesting selective memory, which is human nature.
So lots of messages to reply to...
When in a casino, Alan Mendelson can not see straight. He focuses on one thing and one thing only... The machine infront of him. Hey may have gotten details crossed, but the general large figure wins is accurate. We typically do not play sitting next to eachother so he does not see all my action. Telling someone you won $4K on a W2G they think royal, they don't always think, oh that could have been a full house with 10x multiplier on 10 lines or something odd like that...
Yes I do not count the Three-Way Action Royal as a true "Royal" those are only on a Deal/Draw 5 card game... I have had a dealt royal on a Dream Card game, but I don't exactly count that as a true royal just the same...
I kinda just shove my W2G's into my purse and wait for my accountant to figure that out from statements...
At this time I was gambling purely for entertainment value. If I came home with an extra $5K or a loss of $5K it wouldn't have mattered much... I typically was not going to Vegas at that time to make money but have fun. If I came home with money in my pocket then woohoo hope no one jacks me on the way home, if I had a loss, I usually have a heck of a fun time doing it in the long run.
I had a ton of play that weekend and it was fun. I like playing VP. I like calculating in my head the chances of hitting the card to draw. I like not having the dollar amount but only credits display as I do not think of it as money but bullets which is what they are until you hit the cash out button.
I don't play VP much at all anymore... Maybe a handful of times in the last few years. I am a father now, I have other priorities and responsibilities that require more of my attention and time.
I still enjoy playing Poker. I feel I have more of an edge in poker than any other casino game. I'd rather put my time into playing poker than anything else. Unfortunately don't have much time for that either...
THAT WAS AT WOV. The conversation continued here, please go look, you will see the amount discussed was significantly more. When you find it, perhaps you will apologize and call yourself a tewl.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyHe wrote a "small wager".Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
You're a clown...I hope you're drunk, otherwise you're a tewl of a different dysfunction.
His point was the guy had a bunch of big winners and still lost for the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
He recalled 5 $1 royals, so if anything he underestimated the wins,
which was closer to 8 $1 royals.
But he still made his point, and he was not being deceptive at all.
I didn't/don't really care what his original point was. I said it was not true. He kept going on as if it was absolutely true many times. He was basically saying he had proof and was willing to bet on it. THAT'S WHERE HE BECOMES DECEPTIVE.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyHis point was the guy won a bunch of money and still lost for the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
He recalled 5 $1 royals, so if anything he underestimated the wins,
which was closer to 8 $1 royals.
But he still made his point, and he was not being deceptive at all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gLMSf4afzoQuote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
Quote:
Originally Posted by coach belly
hum...maybe we should post a poll. Short and sweet. Is Alan Mendelson deceptive and dishonest? Yes. No.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
Axel you should have taken the bet. I even offered to show Jason's W2Gs for $5,000.
I don't think so, he wrote what he recalled and it was pretty accurate as to his point.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
He was sure that he had proof, you were sure that he could not.
He wanted to bet on it, but you didn't...instead you just wanted to
brow-beat him for almost 5 years and several hours tonight about it.
Now we know the truth, he wasn't being deceptive, he just made a mistake.
Who is "we" ? Do you have a mouse in your pocket...or elsewhere on your person?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Wow, I can’t believe what Alan said wasn’t true! I don’t think there’s a person in the world who truly believes his nonsense.
Alan you still winning money on the craps table? Lolol
OP" My question: what is the probability of hitting this many royals during this period, out of this many hands?" When somome is talking about odds of doing something and somome else chimes in compairing random handpays with their situation epsesilly one that isnt even in the same balpark, what point are they really trying to make? I could try to make a point now and say someone could hit 100 Jackpots in 24 hours and still lose. I might fail to mention it was all on VP $100 denom and HP's were all 3oak or better. It's not in the same pallpark of what Alans son achived now is it?Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyHis point was the guy had a bunch of big winners and still lost for the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
He recalled 5 $1 royals, so if anything he underestimated the wins,
which was closer to 8 $1 royals.
But he still made his point, and he was not being deceptive at all.
I try to avoid making bets with people who are dishonest and deceptive. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
KJ trying to get me to say it.
Kinda like the 18 yo's in a row?Quote:
Originally Posted by coach belly
ShShShSh.
Alan’s son hit 2 real 4000 coin royals in a weekend, not 5 in a day.
You said you don't make personal bets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
There is no way the bet would have ever happened, as soon as it got serious and before you actully made the bet you would have confirmed with your son and then backed out. And as I said, I would not take W2gs as absolute proof.
I didn't seem like a good situation for me and here's why.
It really happen and I lose. (Small chance but not entirely impossible.
It didn't happen and you back out before an official bet is made.
You know it isn't true so you try to be a weasel and twist the wording of the bet somehow(you have pulled word twisting BS in the past.)
It didn't happen and you provide fake evidence.
You would probably claim it was an illegal bet or some shit then claim if you were to pay me you would be breaking the law and you can't do that.
There's just no way you are parting with 5K to me under any circumstances.
I'm glad you think that way Axel because you saved me $5,000. Thank you.
Axelwolf: Your post at WoV updating a 4 year old thread just to make Alan look bad, was kind of a dick move.
Making a post like that, at a forum that he doesn't participate at and can't respond to, is pretty shitty IMO. Doesn't Alan do enough here to humiliate himself? Did you have to kick him on a site he isn't even on, just to humiliate him further?
Alan participates on THIS site. YOU participate on THIS site. IF you have something to say to or about him, say it here, where he can respond.
I typically bring only $2,000 or so in cash with me for a whole weekend. I purposely closed my lines of casino credit so I cannot go on tilt. If I get a significant jackpot I take it in check and can only lose the rest of my cash.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan MendelsonSo if you hit the royal during the first hour of play, and you're in Vegas for a weekend, is that the end of your play?Quote:
Originally Posted by FABismonte
It sounds to me like you have an underlying disease or problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by FABismonte
If you have to take checks and hide money and cut off credit limits, you could have a serious problem with losing.
I never had a problem gambling. I gamble every day, all the time but I have had a Losing Problem.
Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfOP" My question: what is the probability of hitting this many royals during this period, out of this many hands?" When somome is talking about odds of doing something and somome else chimes in compairing random handpays with their situation epsesilly one that isnt even in the same balpark, what point are they really trying to make? I could try to make a point now and say someone could hit 100 Jackpots in 24 hours and still lose. I might fail to mention it was all on VP $100 denom and HP's were all 3oak or better. It's not in the same pallpark of what Alans son achived now is it?Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyHis point was the guy had a bunch of big winners and still lost for the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
He recalled 5 $1 royals, so if anything he underestimated the wins,
which was closer to 8 $1 royals.
But he still made his point, and he was not being deceptive at all.
Oh the Honest AP Axelwolf who never lies about cutting down a cherry tree huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfI try to avoid making bets with people who are dishonest and deceptive. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
KJ trying to get me to say it.
It seems Axelwolf isn't listening to BBB's advice? What was it that she advised...
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-...38/#post664518
"If we ban somebody it means we don't want to hear from them any longer.
I would further suggest you leave that forum and not poison your world with those people.
There are many of us here who refuse to interact with those people.
They are banned for a reason, and we do not want to give them a voice here through you."
No Problem for Axelwolf though. He can talk about Alan and this forum over at WoV any time he pleases.
Axelwolf has 'Carte Blanche' over at WoV so he can continue to defy the rules and regulations and advice from the MoDs.
Correct me if I am wrong. Didn't Axelwolf and many other Crew Members at WoV associate and profit with WizardofNothing?
Some of them like GWAE and DarkOz's daughter even got hustled by WizardofNothing aka WoN!
Why won't they talk about it or tell us if Robsingerwho is WizardofNothing?
Don't the members of this forum deserve that in the least, so they don't get swindled?
I'll send you a whole case of Captain Morgan if you tell me where to drop it off.
Not a lot of people know this, but Axelwolf recently moved to Ohio. I'll give you the forwarding address for that case of Cap.Quote:
Originally Posted by monet
Gee, I wonder what other claims you made were "wrong" as well?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
"Truth is not truth," right?
Perhaps. I'm not sure why, probably due to all the back and forth, but for some reason, I took this one personally.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
From my understanding Alan is self-suspended and he can return any time he likes, he chooses not to. If not, he is free to send me something he wants to be posted and I will post it there and take the suspention(assuming its appropriate and not more BS).
There is really nothing for him to say the facts are facts.
He swore for years that something happened and it didn't (not even close)
Alan has been trolling us for years with outrageous stories claiming all his gambling stories are fact, all while indicating that the math guys and AP's are the ones not living in reality. He has gone on and tried to shame AP's while calling out their claims.
He got on his journalistic high horse and wanted us all to believe he couldn't possibly be mistaken, lying, embellishing or possibly be wrong. He always put it on us to prove he was mistaken, lying, embellishing or wrong.
Now we have that proof.
OK, so now what?
You've proven alan prevaricates.
Will you put him on "ignore" or let him keep wandering the forum festooned with a "kick me" sign while you put the shoe leather to him?
It's damned hard to ignore a two-headed calf.
Hang em at sundown
So all of a sudden you don't have a $2500 stop win? And if true you are in good company. Many strip casinos are known for backing off "over-royaled" players. Most top tier pros back themselves off before getting over-royaled because of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
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Originally Posted by MisterV
So there are top tier pros who keep themselves from being "over royaled"? Does this mean they get a crystal ball along with the AP ring, card, and secret handshake?Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmSo all of a sudden you don't have a $2500 stop win? And if true you are in good company. Many strip casinos are known for backing off "over-royaled" players. Most top tier pros back themselves off before getting over-royaled because of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
He was very deceptive. There is a big difference in the odds of collecting a bunch of W2-G's, and hitting five royals in one day.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyHis point was the guy had a bunch of big winners and still lost for the day. He recalled 5 $1 royals, so if anything he underestimated the wins, which was closer to 8 $1 royals.But he still made his point, and he was not being deceptive at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf