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If you were a casino employee charged with discouraging and eliminating AP's, how long would it take to throw yourselves to the curb?
Come on, now, how long would it take? Which of youze would fall for KJ's betting a shoe at $25, and, then, making one bet to $762, running, and hoping that no one will notice, crap? Not that what he does makes any mathematical sense.
Hard-nosed Mickey would be the first here to brag about how easy it is.
Why don't you non AP's use this thread to discuss your nonsense with each other? You're a total fucking idiot.
You know, I think that MrV is desperately seeking another "Pinky", since LarryS's departure. He tries so hard to suck up to an AP.
Casinos LOVE AP's! I've sat and watched them throw thousands of dollars away. A friend told me he sat and watched a guy throw $50k on that Buffalo Stampede game and NEVER hit anything substantial.
It's not even a fair contest. Casino guys with umpteen degrees against eggheads like Crimm on silly gambling forums.Quote:
Originally Posted by slingshot
Paranoid KJ would be running around a casino, if he worked for one, to throw everyone out who glanced at the mirrors on the ceiling.
Can you tell me which casinos love APs? Or which casinos won’t throw out APs for APing? I haven’t been able to find one AFAIK, but maybe you know the secret. Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by slingshot
The rest of us got the joke RS.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS__Can you tell me which casinos love APs? Or which casinos won’t throw out APs for APing? I haven’t been able to find one AFAIK, but maybe you know the secret. Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by slingshot
The Sheldon Cooper of the AP world doesn't get jokes...he's retarded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Good thread for antiAP'ers to jack each other off. I dont know what the new question is because I got the main jackoff blocked. Fuck that idiot.
Here we go again being called anti-AP when really we're anti-BS.
That was my objective. Finally a thread w/o Mickey in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Well done Yungster...hey wormm...fuck off, bitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Yung
Petunia, does Bill Yung moan when you give him head?Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyQuote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Well done Yungster...hey wormm...fuck off, bitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Yung
Rosey Palmer not doing it for you, so you fantasize about men having sex?Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
You're gay, wormm...not that there's anything wrong with that...but there's plenty wrong with you, besides the fact that you have homosexual fantasies.
Why are you so mad? Did Rob quit packing you up the ass again?Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyRosey Palmer not doing it for you, so you fantasize about men having sex?Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
You're gay, wormm...not that there's anything wrong with that...but there's plenty wrong with you, besides the fact that you have homosexual fantasies.
I've never met Rob Singer.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
That is a homosexual fantasy that you made up in your own head...who spends time thinking like that?
Good cover story.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyI've never met Rob Singer.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Three, I think your skill level on this part of the game is more attributable to your reputation than anything else. Example "just a joke as it would be real hard to wong in on someone playing 200 hph" two counters are back counting your solo play at a minimum of 200 hph and then the tc count gets very nice when suddenly a third person nudges his two buddies and tells them not to get in, which they oblige, but request a meeting. Later the other person told them anybody but him. He's the guy that left the casino after being harassed by a small group of bikers only to confront them in the parking lot and kick the biggest one in the nuts and ask if anyone else has a problem. Then proceded to his car with thirty K in his pockets.
Bosox writes:
Moses replies: A prime example of AP discussions. The tales continue to grow. We getter further away from the point of a forum in the first place. The "count" discussion seems to have been a topic of discussion since Jesus was a little boy. I don't know that any count matters in a shoe with 312 cards. Yet, there are many that makes millions with ease?
I believe there are two primary factors in the pitch game. 1.) the percentage of large cards that are played vs the percentage that still remain.
2.) The tag values assigned to cards. But try to get into a discussion about that and you get banned.
Also, NO, I do not believe a perfectly able bodied man should use a wheelchair in order to see the cut card. I don't care if I'm on a forum, in a bar, or in a brothel. THAT just isn't right. Stand up to it? You get put down.
How long would in take you too run the 1/4 mile, naked, on a very busy side walk?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Yung
Shut the fuck up garnabby.
I'm agreeing with Norm with if you have 16vsT and can't surrender you are screwed. It's a horribly negative expectation hand. How screwed? How horrible? With surrender available, you'd need to be down to around TC-7 to hit instead of surrender, a point that you should have wonged out unless there was some reason to stay. Thinking about the difference between -1,0,+1 whether to stand or hit when surrender is not available is not worth giving much thought to. Surrender, otherwise stand if surrender is unavailable is the way to go. The index is very broad brush compared to actual composition dependent play. It's possible be at TC-2 with the optimal decision to stand, and possible be at TC+2 with the optimal decision to hit! This hand, 16vsT, is heavily impacted by surplus and/or deficit (4,5). You can think of one surplus (5) as being the equivalent of three {T} removed. You can think of one surplus (4) as being the value of two {T} removed in pushing you in the direction to hit. Without factoring in key card impact, you are somewhere in the ball park at best, and whether you are at -2 or +2, to hit or stand (when surrender is unavailable) isn't going to make a lot of difference. Not to worry though, since even if you go with the very exact composition dependent play, it's not having a huge impact and you are screwed no matter what.
A few examples of what I'm talking about as follows:
DD, no surrender, 16vsT, 1.25 decks remaining, TC+2, no (4,5) have been removed, five (6) have been removed (2 deficit).-----HIT
DD, no surrender, 16vsT, 1.25 decks remaining, TC+2, more than eight (4,5) have been removed, no (6) have been removed (3 surplus).----- STAND
6D, no surrender, 16vsT, 3 decks remaining, TC-2, lots of (4,5) removed, enough to assume a substantial deficit, surplus middle cards, surplus (6).-----STAND
6D, no surrender, 16vsT, 3 decks remaining, TC-2, very few (4,5) removed, lots of (6) removed with eight in the remainder (4 deficit), deficit middle cards.-----HIT
The difference between composition dependent perfect play and simply going with surrender, otherwise stand if surrender is unavailable, is not that significant for this hand. What you are talking about in the original post is even less significant than that, since the index itself that you are going by is sort of broad brush. Don't freak out about whether not ever hitting 16 is going to hurt you in the long haul, it isn't. You've heard of pragmatism? What you are debating is the opposite of pragmatism.
Tarzan writes ^:
Moses writes: 16vs10; Your buddy Flash is simply wrong, Wrong, WRONG at the suggestion of Always Standing in the single deck game - straight up. Surrender is not an option. RC-2,-3,-4 etc and up is actually a positive play. At 43% high cards remaining vs 57% low cards remaining, standing is ludicrous. I don't know how you manage to track 4,5 and 6. But if your 3 column count is flush with 2-5s, why in the world would you stand?
The fact that card counters have to guess on when to hit, stand or surrender on 16 vs 10 shows the weakness of counting compared to advanced AP methods.
Buffalo Stampede? Lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by slingshot
The problem I have with the term EV is it's an estimate. I prefer position of power by knowing my percentages. A TC 26 or TC 30 doesn't mean you will automatically win the hand. IT simply means your in a stronger position of power. So don't be shocked if/when you lose those large bets. Of course, a deck with 67% in high cards remaining is better than 60%. Both are value plays. Neither guarantees a winning hand. However, 67% will win a higher percentage of hands. But it's also a lower percentage to get into that position of power opportunity.
Therefore, I disagree with those hairy high school methods of jumping your bet around. You're not fooling anyone. The only way to make an EITS delusional to your play is to skip what appears to be high value hands to them. The is best done with a column count.
I looked- it's a progressive game. About 8 machines set by themselves. Too rich for my blood.Quote:
Originally Posted by ProzemaBuffalo Stampede? Lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by slingshot
Just keep plugging away with Singers Strategy. In no time, you'll be able to afford it....NOT :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by slingshotI looked- it's a progressive game. About 8 machines set by themselves. Too rich for my blood.Quote:
Originally Posted by ProzemaBuffalo Stampede? Lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by slingshot
I've been trying to drag this thread back to a theoretical discussion, but you guys kept throwing practical or useful suggestions.
Every wise counter knows the benefit to always stand on 16 vs 10 when there's potential heat.
I simply would like to know if standing at RC 1, on average, is mathematically better than standing at TC 0. Anyway, I seem to get the answer.
San Jose Bella writes ^:
Moses replies: You're not going to get a straight answer to your question. In order to get your answer you will have to do a formula on a spreadsheet based on the results from CV Data. I can tell you that in a no surrender, straight up pitch game that standing at RC 1 is mathematically better than standing at RC O. However, it is a threshold (or a crap shoot) until to get hitting at RC -2. As for trying to compare on RC 1 to a TC 0? Wow, what is wrong with you? Impossible!
Consider, in a 52 card deck, there are 32 cards that will break your hand. Only 16 will improve it to 18 or better. So 67% break and only 33% improve your position. Now, in a straight up game, quite often the last card of your current hand is the first card of your next hand. That being said, it's rarely worth taking an Ace out of the deck to improve from a 16 to 17. However, starting a hand with an Ace is a great value.
These who say Always Stand on 16 in a pitch game are suffering from HIA syndrome. In a negative deck, perhaps you don't win the hand. But consider you took a negative card out of the card which improved your position on your next hand. A 6 for instance, gives you 22 at a negative RC -3. Bam, you lose. But at least you're not starting your next hand with a 6. Or a 3 gets you to 19. Dealer has 20. Bam you lose. But at least you're not starting your next hand with a 3.
Personally, I do not believe the pit boss or EITS is standing around waiting to see what I do on 16. It occurs maybe 3 times out of a 100 hands. However, if you are that twitchy about heat, let the dealer make the call at RC 1 to RC-1. It won't make one iota of difference until you've played a million hands (10 years for KJ). Even then, it's a threshold that could go either way.
So why must a dealer hit on 16?Quote:
Originally Posted by Moses
Moses, I appreciate that you are trying to initiate blackjack discussion, both here and in the "whatever is on your mind" subsection. Problem is there really are few here that want to discuss blackjack and those that do, only want to tear down any possibility of playing blackjack with an advantage. But since you are making the effort, I will try. :)
Do we really want to discuss hitting or not hitting 16 vs 10? The fact is that it is such a close play that playing it wrong either way, only costs a couple cents on a $100 wager. And that goes for shoe as well as pitch games. The bigger issue for 16 vs 10 is when player attempt to play it "correctly", hitting during neutral/negative counts and standing on positive counts. Because 16 vs 10 is one of the most common hands and occurs so frequently it is easy to spot a player playing it differently at different times (and counts), so I recommend playing it the same way all the time. That slight cost is well worth avoiding that huge "tell".
Going by 'card counter's basic strategy' you stand on all 16 vs 10's. Reasoning, you will be playing it incorrectly, at a very small cost, on negative counts when your smallest (waiting) bets are made and playing it correctly on all positive counts when you have larger wagers out. Very minimal cost. AND if you are a player who wongs out aggressively, to escape at least some of the negative counts, you will be playing it correctly even a higher percentage of the time, making the cost even less....less than minimal. ;)
KJ. I brought it up because it's a never ending topic at BJTF. Actually, according to Sims for pitch games, Always standing vs hitting at the proper index will reduce SCORE over 10%.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
The point is they confound the issue to create an understanding to their way by limiting free speech. I assure you "always standing" in single deck straight up is more than pennies. Hitting at RC-2^ pays extra bills each month. Going from memory, it was 11 wins and 4 losses over the course of 5k hands. A minimum bet at $25 is an extra $175. A closer look reflects always standing was a $175 loss. That is a difference of $350 in less than a month for most full time green chip players. Not pennies in my book. But then, I don't have your kind of money.;)
Flash should do some SIM research before just writing "blue ink balderdash." On the flipside, I could write doubling on 10vs 10 is not worth the risk. So always hit and it's not worth the dollars invested. Instead I would encourage others to draw out the picture from SIMS in order to determine if it is for them or not. You don't want to know how I look at it to improve my risk.:cool:
I don't comment on the blackjack posts because I'm not a blackjack pro. I can't get down into the nuts and bolts like you and Moses do. I can do it with video poker but not blackjack. But I do read everything you and Moses write on the subject. How other AP's operate is always interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
KJ, there are a few casual gamblers who are here to enhance their game, blackjack included. There are also those who just want to learn, period. I fall into both categories.
I see the logic of both sides and the different reasoning as to how Moses and you would play 16 vs 10. Since I am not a card counter, though my buddy is (and we casually gambler as a pair), I played by the statedgy card and always hit on 16 vs 10. Before posting, I did a little research and found out that a multi card (three or more) 16 vs 10 should be played as a hold. Interesting. I never knew this.
Just because many individuals do not respond to blackjack posts, it does not mean the information is not being absorbed.
Heck, on my last visit to Vegas a few months ago I was berated by the guy next to me on how I played a certain hand. I played it by the book. I even showed him the strategy card but that was not good enough. He left the table shaking his head. After he left, I looked at the other gamblers and said, “Let’s have some fun!”, Oh, for the record, I woke up at 5 AM the next morning and reviewed four different websites about the play. No author strayed from the card.
Keep the informational posts coming.
Deech. Feed back like yours is good. There are thousands of lurkers who never post. The general idea behind my posts are a series of notes to myself. I believe one can reduce variance by doing homework to determine the difference between a threshold and an advantage play. Money management is key. I spend hours in research when I'm not playing. "Winning is everything. But it sure beats losing."
Holy fart, it's good not to have this sort of crap in my head. No way to get it out?
KJ keeps coming back for more baloney. I guess that you have to give some to take some.
Now, I wonder that there is any reliable literature about high-level blackjack income. Sure as rain doesn't look like it. The new questions keep on a comin'.
It's like most anything else. It's just a job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Yung
Christ, he's off his meds again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Yung
You betcha! I don't take 'em at all.
I wonder what atheists say to swear? Stephen Hawking's drawers? Ha.
I believe more “lurkers” would respond if there was more positive information within the thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moses
Frankly, anyone casually looking at this section of the website, would reverse gears and exit.
Why do I view this site? MC, KJ, Reditz, Monet, and Moses. Yes, there are others but these individuals are the ones I have learned from. I am here for the math of gambling. Yes, I can be philosophical and give a dissertation that gambling is detrimental. Gambling is no different than other vices.
Live long and let’s have fun.
Thank you for posting Deech. When I share something about my play or experiences, I try to remember that there are lurkers (more than just you because you do participate, but other complete lurkers) that might benefits. So I thank you for reminding me of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeechI believe more “lurkers” would respond if there was more positive information within the thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moses
Frankly, anyone casually looking at this section of the website, would reverse gears and exit.
Why do I view this site? MC, KJ, Reditz, Monet, and Moses. Yes, there are others but these individuals are the ones I have learned from. I am here for the math of gambling. Yes, I can be philosophical and give a dissertation that gambling is detrimental. Gambling is no different than other vices.
Live long and let’s have fun.
It's funny...when Dan Druff banned Singer, about a year ago, Dan specifically mentioned that he had heard privately from several "lurkers", who confided in Dan that they do not feel comfortable participating because of the likes of Rob Singer. Dan stated at the time, that he wanted to move away from that so this site could be a place that more people felt comfortable participating at.
AND THEN...inexplicably Dan reversed course, never explaining why. I call Dan to revisit that decision to allow Singer back. It has not benefited this site in any way.
Ha. When pigs fly, and V stops using.Quote:
Originally Posted by MosesIt's like most anything else. It's just a job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Yung
You'll never see a "burger flipper" waste the rest of his/her time on the internet to wallow in the fantasy details of "burger flipping". This is how weird gambling is, no matter how much or in which way.
I read a rule once on 16 vs. Ten that went like this:Quote:
Originally Posted by Deech
Hit a 16 that has a 6 and also contains a 6,7,8 or 9. Stand on the rest. These would all have to have 3 cards or more. Don't know how accurate it is.
Life is a gamble. Numbers don't lie. People do. I went into McD for breakfast. My bill was $2.54. I gave the cashier $20.54. I thought his brain was going to break trying to figure out the change. Ask him for a refill on coffee. I could've driven home and made a pot in the time it took him to turn around and pour. So I don't recall having many conversations with fast food employees about blackjack.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill YungHa. When pigs fly, and V stops using.Quote:
Originally Posted by MosesIt's like most anything else. It's just a job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Yung
You'll never see a "burger flipper" waste the rest of his/her time on the internet to wallow in the fantasy details of "burger flipping". This is how weird gambling is, no matter how much or in which way.
Mick. I've spent hours researching charts and viewing logs of hands on this very subject. For one thing it's a high frequency decision by comparison to most other hands. The bold statements by armchair QBs who typically did no research. Perhaps you've heard of the Ill 18? 16v10 carries the 2nd highest priority. Insurance is #1. Again, I'm only speaking to no surrender pitch games because I don't play shoes. The results strongly indicate to stand when the count is positive. Hit when it's negative -2. And flip when it's even. There are quite a few plays that are simple logic.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmI read a rule once on 16 vs. Ten that went like this:Quote:
Originally Posted by Deech
Hit a 16 that has a 6 and also contains a 6,7,8 or 9. Stand on the rest. These would all have to have 3 cards or more. Don't know how accurate it is.
Back offs and countermeasures, need help handling them..
What the hell is wrong with you 21forme?
ra ra shish kum bah
ZeeBabar can do it
ZeeBabar can
If he can't do it nobody can
Bosox: Not to be critical. But your poem doesn't rhyme. ;)
Back offs and countermeasures, need help handling them..
Moses writes: Bosox: Not to be critical. But your poem doesn't rhyme.
You could at least offered him some encouragement.
Bosox writes to 21 forme:
21 Forme responds;
What kind of encouragement?
He's incapable of learning and posts just to get attention. He's as much an attention whore as he is a gambling addict.
Moses replies: So you stalk Zee from sight to site and harass a 70 year old Muslim doctor seeking employment at McDs? . That should solve his attention seeking problem. Shrewed: C'mon Norm. Time to put the Zee/21Forme puppets away for good and come up with another one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJe0bbdjKgA
IS 21FORME a/k/a Walter?
So I've been trying to follow the dialog between T3 and Bosox in the above thread thinking I might learn something. It seems as though they both have a jug. Bosox can blow into his jug and keep up with the beat of the band. But T3 can blow into his jug and get banjo, piano, trumpet, guitar, and all kinds of musical sounds to come out of his jug.
Here is what I don't understand. Both employ conventional counts. In other words, they assigned tag values to various cards. How is that T3 knows his count is different from Hilo at various points? I mean it's true - but how would he know - unless he is maintaining a HiLo count as well as his complex count? T3 says he ducks out of bets with poor deck compositions. But how would he know with tag values assigned as opposed to counting by columns? Perhaps the surplus or lack of Aces played/remaining is an indicator? Hell, that's no big deal. Why not just say so?
The Tarzan count reduces the lowest cards played in a column to 0. But what if one column jumps up and another one falls? Wouldn't that create inaccuracy over the course of 312 cards? Also, if Tarzan has to ability to track the amount of 23s,45s,67s,and 89s played/remaining why the need to reduce any column to 0?
What if Tarzan, T3, and Flash are one in the same? T3 and Flash tend to speak for Tarzan as if they know his count well enough to discuss. But yet neither employ it? T3 and Flash used to follow each others posts as if they were joined at the hip. Really, these 3 guys meet in a coffee shop somewhere along the east coast and write/discuss blackjack forum issues? And I thought I was the one without a life.
Anyway you slice it up, it's still 312 cards, a mindfuck in itself.
So, back to what my friend Lou stated "there are bull shitters and there are blowhards." My weakness is I have a difficult time separating shit from shinola sometimes.
Lou says the blowhards are the guys that always win and know more about everything than everyone else. Those guys are not worth the time of day. They are always going to hit you up for money.
However, bull shitters are looking for people to root for, follow, and feel sorry for them. Those are a little more tolerable. For instance, Dufus loses $50 on a game and says it was $500. Or buys in for $90 at a $25 table and then claims he lost $1500 in 15 minutes. The answer is "sorry to hear the Dufus. Now go kipe us some donuts and bananas from the VIP room."
In real life, it's much easier to spot. The blowhard might be some scraggly looking dude who sleeps in his van with his cats. The bull shitter is wearing a free T shirt that shrunk when he washed it and now it won't cover his stomach. Plus you can tell what he likes to eat because it's all over his shirt. Hence, he won't wash it out of fear it will shrink again.
Back to choir boy Bill. The same exists in the real world of which you are so proud of being a member. It's just the clothing is different.
RS writes to T3; You’ve gotta be joking. A 19 is a losing hand vs 20 whether you’re using HiLo or ho2 w/asc or any other count. Any two counts, if played side by side, are going to look damn close to identical. The stuff about negative swings, big buy-ins, etc. is all complete bullshit in reference to comparing 2 different counts. There’s a reason there is a SMALL difference between different systems and not a huge difference like your post implies. Do you have any numbers to support your nonsense claims?
Moses notes:
It is possible to compare two counts by using a spreadsheet and logging hands on Verite. But impossible to do by viewing logs on CV Data. There often is a significant difference between two counts. But yes, positive will be positive and negative will be negative. Even may swing either way depending on tags assigned. A CV Data sim SCORE might be 20% difference if comparing apples to apples. But most are 5% to 10%. It's not about the destination, it IS about the ride to arrive. A spreadsheet with Verite is like comparing Oranges to Oranges. But in the real game in the real casino, you want the Mandarin Orange. The taste is much sweeter.
Is using level 2 count in shoe game an overkill
I've always considered a player should use a counting system that they are most comfortable with and can perform virtually error free. Nothing new there but a Level 2 count with a higher Playing Efficiency than Hi-Lo is useful if a player is flat betting only in positive counts. The house advantage and penetration need to be taken into account but in this case a Level 2 count will generate better results than Hi-Lo.
Well said; Worth noting.
Don S played 1 year of Level 1 and then switched to Felt/RPC. As he and Norm put it. "They never found anything better." End of story? One can only hope.
Moses, I no longer read Norm's site, unless I am directed to something specific by someone, so I am not sure who you are quoting here (who wrote this?), but this quote is NOT end of story.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moses
In the last 2 years Don has stated that knowing everything he now knows, if he were starting out today he would play a level 1 count like hi-lo or possible K-O and use 20-30 index plays, rather than RPC which he has played for 40 years and 150 index plays. Now THAT speaks volumes to me, hindsight being 20/20. :)
And for anyone who this statement is not crystal clear, let me translate. Don is saying that for the mediocre shoe games that most players (myself included) are playing today, 2018, a higher level count, side counts and a large number of index plays adds little. The purist will give computer simulations that say these advanced techniques add this or that, but it is very much a case of diminishing returns and as such begs the question, is it worth it? My conclusion some 12 years ago (after I played RPC for 18 months) and Don's conclusion in the last 2 years are that no, it is not worth it. Simplicity is the way to go.
In today's world, today's blackjack games and conditions that most players play (you and your single deck are the exception), you win by getting out the money in advantageous situations. Almost any count will identify those situations. The trick is learning how to get that money out and still be welcome to play and figuring a way to escape the worst of the disadvantage situations. That is what makes for a winning game in 2018.
KJ. The green ink was me. The black was Davethebuilder. If you happen to take a gander at the thread you'll see it's evolving into the old Hi Opt vs HiLO yarn again.
The single deck straight up game depends on the actions of the dealer. Much like an official in basketball. IF an official is passive you teach your players to attack. IF an official is calling every touch, you spread the floor and keep the ball in your possession. This puts the other team at a disadvantage of being in foul trouble. Right Coach?
IF a dealer is going deep into a deck, then column strategy works best because your large bets have a solid deck composition and you can pick up some extra wins at the end of the deck because a column might be exhausted of cards.
IF a dealer is only going to 5 rounds? Game is postponed. The in between is the tricky part. I'm still working on it. But I think I've about figured it out. Getting the best value on your dollar is key and not wasting more time than necessary at a table is crucial.
As for Zee's game? HE needs a slice of Dog Shit Cake for his Double deck game and to stay the hell away from shoes. Just stick to his sandals.
Suppose you are going to employ Tarzan "the marquee" of all counts. Suppose you reduced the 2-5s column to 0 at some point in the deck. Now an abundance of the 2-5s come out which puts you in a situation of making a max bet. O good my first hand was a blackjack which took the remaining Ace from the deck. O damn my second hand is 16 vs 8. In a column count, I will know exactly how many 2-5s have been played and thus still remain. In this example, they've all been played. Therefore, there is no way you can win the hand by hitting. This, THIS is HOW YOU REDUCE VARIANCE.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moses
Here is another samples of bull.
Over the year, so far, I spent 402 hours (actually at table), spent $8,515 (airlines, car rentals, food, gas etc.), and won $32,115 playing 75% DD, 25% 6D games (about 75% rated, 25% anonymous). Its about $6k less in winnings than in 2017.
After almost 5 years, I finally burnt out all (the ones I played at) the local casinos. I did poorly in Las Vegas (8 trips) primarily because of high expenses (won $3380, played 110 hours had expenses of $2k) and playing too conservatively. I need to play more aggressively or cut down on expenses for Las Vegas but trips lose the fun when I do that.
So you made $80 per hour with HiLO, playing 75% DD, with no game or inclination to ever work on your game whatsoever. You walk away from strong counts because you're afraid of losing money. And you made $26K in 2017 and previous 5 years but did nothing but bitch and ask questions about your game. GUYS stop posting BULLSHIT
Congratulations, very impressive results for 2018. I think you might be running above expected value, but you surely can't knock almost $80 an hour.
Rah Rah sis boom bap.
Post some more of this crap.
KJ KJ he's so cool, wise, and meek
HE lost this much in a week :cool:
After almost 5 years, I finally burnt out all (the ones I played at) the local casinos. I did poorly in Las Vegas (8 trips) primarily because of high expenses (won $3380, played 110 hours had expenses of $2k) and playing too conservatively. I need to play more aggressively or cut down on expenses for Las Vegas but trips lose the fun quotient when I do that.
IF you got kicked out locally, it was because the pit bosses were laughing so hard at your game they couldn't see through the tears to view other players. IF, IF you can make $80 an hour. MOVE to Vegas. Think of what you'll save in travel expense. You could triple your time at the tables and still have time to improve your game. IMAGINE? Why hell, you'll be knocking down $100k in no time. No?
Congrats Zee. Nice post. You know what you need to do and seem resolved to do it. I hope you have the discipline to pull it off. That is the biggest struggle for most APs. It isn't knowing what to do. It is having the discipline to do it without deviation.
T3 writes:
Moses replies: O brother. The main person these yo hos need to stop bullshitting is themselves. Maybe you need to watch more Law & Order shows. It worked for me. You, of all people going gaga over short term results. Now, if he had reported a loss of $32K, which is more likely the case. You be telling him to think long term. He is seventy-friggin-years old making 8 trips a year to Vegas. So take 16 trips a year until your 80 and then drop by to 4 when you turn 90. You should be even by the time your reach 150.
Norm, your looney tune characters from Happy Days have turned into Happy Daze.