I have $2800 in Tiffany's gift cards or store credit if anyone wants them for 40% off.
My Wife does not really care for that kinda stuff, the more expensive stuff that she does have just sits in its original boxes in storage.
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I have $2800 in Tiffany's gift cards or store credit if anyone wants them for 40% off.
My Wife does not really care for that kinda stuff, the more expensive stuff that she does have just sits in its original boxes in storage.
Many people know Axel, trust him and know it’s a good deal IF you are into Tiffany’s merchandise. That said it’s a limited market and $2800 doesn’t go that far there are you are overpaying for the name.
The man’s not risking a reputation he built over many years for a couple thousand dollars.
Thanks Boz.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
That's much appreciated.
And so others know....
I have sold many thousands in various different gift cards
Coach, Macy's, Tiffanys, etc to various members on the forum and non members. All the gift cards were earned legit at a casino. I got an offer for 50% from an AP but I thinks that's too low. I can probably get 50% from a pawn shop if it's a gold item. That's what the girl who worked there said.
$1,700 is already spoken for. I do ussully have people lined up who buy them, but things didn't work out this year.
Im sure they are flush on all the other gift cards I sold them. Ill have more gift cards soon from various other more reasonably priced store's.
I even have 2k in Amazon Gift cards but Ill probably just hang on to those unless I get a good offer. I just sold 1k in gas cards for 15% off because I didn't have that gas station near me. And I tend to lose(misplace )shit like that.
If anyone who's actually interested in the cards has any concerns I can make sure you no longer have any.
I won't even consider selling anything to anyone I don't have a good feeling about.
They have simple jewelry too, if you haven't had her look and/or can't find a buyer.
I got a $500 one to burn off comps figuring I'd just sell it since I don't wear fancy stuff either. But they had simple gold chains and charms/pendants, every day type jewelry, so it was easy to spend it.
It can be quite lucrative to work a gift card promotion then sell the gift cards. Axel has had many business dealings with members of the forums and has a spotless reputation.
I have bought many gift cards from Axel and have never had a problem. Most recently a couple Gucci purses worth which made the wife unit very happy.
Thanks Max I appreciate your support and business. I think you spanked me on that deal. Had I waited or went to ebay I could have done much better.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxPen
I hope you are enjoying the upper class tranny dress up time with my discounted upper clas swag. You the ...man/girl.
Happy Thanksgiving anyways to the good ones out there. You know who you are.
Enjoy the day, whatever you are doing.
Me, I’ve already had a walk on the beach and am going to grill some burgers and watch some football.
Thank you Mickey for your support. Happy Thanksgiving.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
Thanksgiving is a working holiday for me. It's always a busy 4 days for the casinos so the money is good. I've got a comped Thanksgiving buffet coming and I'll be taking breaks today to watch some football. I think we're not far from a kickoff now. Happy Turkey Day everyone, even the Confederacy of Dunces.
I have a Thanksgiving thought/question related to axel's first post.
When these comps came rolling in, I assume it was part of some theoretically positive ap play. Of course, he didn't say whether he won cash or phantom bucks for that/those particular "play or plays" and from the AP-rhetoric we understand that to them it doesn't matter anyway.
However, shoving these comps out the door at a discount tells me that whatever value they placed on the theory of getting them is now worth 40% less. That could mean that the AP was actually playing a -EV game, or he played one of those small edges that "good ap's just don't play."
Truthfully, if you were penning this to a blog, how do you guys handle this? Or is there some kind of slick wordsmithing that's needed?
Did Alan hijack your account or something? Are you parked in his driveway, jacking his internet, for the Holidays?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Why do the gift cards have to be calculated at full value when deciding whether the play is a go or no go? Wise Up
Anyone I know in the AP world doesn’t include stuff like gift cards, hotels, food, or other comps when determining if a play is good or not, nor the value of the play. OCCASIONALLY there may be something where you have to put in minimal coin in to get lots of food, but 99.9% of the stuff isn’t going to be that. Comps are viewed as extra benefits like “the play is worth 5%, but will also probably get ______ on top of the 5%”.
Exception would be if you’re playing specifically for gift cards, in which case you’ll already know what gift cards to expect and the going rate for them. Gas, grocery, etc. are 100% of value because you’re going to be spending money on that stuff anyway. WalMart and Best Buy are pretty high % because they sell for something like 90-95%+ of face value.
Then you don't know Bob Dancer, Jean Scott, Elliott Fromm, Frank Kneeland and a few more AP's. All of them use the full value of gift cards every time they're part of the equation, in their claims of turning -EV plays into positive ones. But not the higher-up folks here. Selling them at discounts just because someone needs the money destroys the going-in position. It's like Dancer claiming to have made $150,000 in a calendar year, then getting thrown out of the house in a nasty divorce, thereby being scalped of a quick quarter mil. Anybody think he ever went back and adjusted any of his numbers claims because his ex is the one who hit "his" $400k jackpot?
Sense says these are excuses. We keep getting lectured by the self-proclaimed ap's here that "no AP would ever go into a play without knowing the exact value of the play." Now we can easily discount max's usual stupid reply because of his envy. And I strongly suspect that if the cast of characters above say they use gift cards in their calculations, all ap's do. What is unclear is why I can't get another SD implement answer without a world of contradiction from other ap-gurus.
What are you prattling on about now? I wouldn't consider most of those people you named as AP's. They are more like system hucksters, such as you tried to be. The difference is your failure. Most of them are succeeding while you continue trying to yank your dick while prattling on with a bunch of truckers in your man closet on wheels.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Per the usual you are ass backwards. No one calculates the full value of gift cards into the play if they plan on selling them at a discount. It's the discounted price thats calculated into the play, dumass. You are clutching at straws and looking stupid as ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
And Bob kept the house. Shirley moved to California, idiot. Remember? Bonnie helped her pack. No way that fact escaped you. You are just straight up lying about it, Robocchio.
And on the 400K royal they were playing as a team on his bankroll. No way that escaped you either.
Pretty sure you get more from the gift card buying vending machines.
I have banned blackhole from this thread, and deleted some messages.
Please do not clutter this thread with garbage or trolling.
Axel asked me if he could post this Tiffany gift card thread here, and I said it was fine. From what I know, Axel has been around the AP community for decades and never screwed anyone, so I don't see this being much of a risk.
Speaking of gift cards, I ran a play at Cosmo in 2012 which netted me $6k in Zappos gift cards. I've been slowly using them, as has my son and girlfriend.
Laughably, Zappos made an incredibly boneheaded mistake regarding the gift card numbers.
They were 16 digits, which is fine, but the first 10 digits are all the same, making them incredibly easy to hack (only a million different combos) for anyone who realized this.
How easy would this be to hack? If just 10,000 cards were made, you could guess a card number correctly once out of every hundred tries, on average!
Not surprisingly, by now, most of my gift cards have been hacked. Zappos knows about this idiotic mistake and honors them, but it requires me to call in and explain the whole thing each time, which blows.
I considered selling these at like 75%-80%, but I ended up saying fuck it, and just kept them, knowing that the family will eventually need enough shoes to use them all up.
You're like the apologist who never gives up.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmPer the usual you are ass backwards. No one calculates the full value of gift cards into the play if they plan on selling them at a discount. It's the discounted price thats calculated into the play, dumass. You are clutching at straws and looking stupid as ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
And Bob kept the house. Shirley moved to California, idiot. Remember? Bonnie helped her pack. No way that fact escaped you. You are just straight up lying about it, Robocchio.
And on the 400K royal they were playing as a team on his bankroll. No way that escaped you either.
Instead of reading whatever your idol Dancer writes you should be reading the divorce decree....or even talk to Shirley's family as I have. You act like he got everything and gave her nothing, which is just the opposite of what occurred, only because you want it to be your way and not the actual way. You want it to be that the woman got screwed, because of your bad/inactive life with women. He does not have the house you moron. Look it up--it's all old news.
Shirley's family says she hit the royal and the W2G was issued in her name because she was sitting at the machine playing it while he "instructed". It was played on money just won from a $25 royal where the W2G was issued to him because he was the player and she sat at the machine next to him watching. That's clear evidence that she won the $400k. Again, old news. Get your facts right next time. You'd have learned that trait if you weren't a high school dropout driving a junker with over 100,000 miles on it. :)
Now it's time to put your thinking cap on. All the apologist "AP's" are running on to defend "sure thing/good guy/AP-extraordinaire" Axel, who supposedly is well-known and has a plethora of contacts in the gambling community. Yet for some reason, because neither he nor his wife don't know how to appreciate the artistic and overall value of Tiffany products--and I agree, for a street gambler that's not at all unusual--with ALL these "highly bankrolled" and "highly respected" friends and associates he's said to have, HE NEEDS TO COME ON A FORUM WITH EIGHT POSTERS AND BEG TO SELL THEM?
mickey, if that doesn't smack of needing cash FAST....what does??
But I know this is not something the anonymous bunch here can fathom, so just push it under the rug.
Depends on what side of the fence you are on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
The Casino side may say Axel has screwed them out of millions of dollars.
They may say he screwed them out of a bunch of Tiffany Gift Cards.
It is a known fact that Axel has been escorted out of Casinos by security more than once.
You just can't help yourself, can you. More lies and tall tales from Robocchio. So after years of you trashing Bob AND Shirley in the forums her family just sat right down with you and had a nice chat....giving you all the juicy details of the divorce....and even showing you the divorce decree. Yeah, you betcha, Robocchio. Shirley hates you just as much as Bob does. That nose is getting longer and longer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.SingerYou're like the apologist who never gives up.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmPer the usual you are ass backwards. No one calculates the full value of gift cards into the play if they plan on selling them at a discount. It's the discounted price thats calculated into the play, dumass. You are clutching at straws and looking stupid as ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
And Bob kept the house. Shirley moved to California, idiot. Remember? Bonnie helped her pack. No way that fact escaped you. You are just straight up lying about it, Robocchio.
And on the 400K royal they were playing as a team on his bankroll. No way that escaped you either.
Instead of reading whatever your idol Dancer writes you should be reading the divorce decree....or even talk to Shirley's family as I have. You act like he got everything and gave her nothing, which is just the opposite of what occurred, only because you want it to be your way and not the actual way. You want it to be that the woman got screwed, because of your bad/inactive life with women. He does not have the house you moron. Look it up--it's all old news.
Shirley's family says she hit the royal and the W2G was issued in her name because she was sitting at the machine playing it while he "instructed". It was played on money just won from a $25 royal where the W2G was issued to him because he was the player and she sat at the machine next to him watching. That's clear evidence that she won the $400k. Again, old news. Get your facts right next time.
I never said she didn't hit the 400K royal, dumbo. I said they were playing as a team and on his bankroll. According to the book, which I can go back to and easily dig it out, after he hit the 100K royal he gave her a certain amount of money to potshot the $100 machine. Who the W2-G's were issued to are irrelevant. He taught her how to play. He bankrolled her. Your harping on "She hit the royal! She hit the royal!" is a red herring and totally irrelevant.
And I never said that in the divorce he got the goldmine and she got the shaft. What is public knowledge is the financial end of the divorce went smoothly. The communal property was divided equally and she moved to California.
http://i65.tinypic.com/vf8ody.jpg
So if someone is selling something they are hard up for cash? You must have been hard up so you sold that camper, right? He could easily sell the stuff on eBay. And I didn't see any begging going on. That's just your phony embellishment. What you don't know and won't learn is how these kind of advantage plays work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
This is the same with all credit cards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
This is why you need to verify the date and ccv (3 or 4 digit number).
Many gift cards also have a pin that needs to be scratched off.
A "known fact"...or just another AP wishful thinking, unverified/unverifiable feel-good claim?Quote:
Originally Posted by monetDepends on what side of the fence you are on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
The Casino side may say Axel has screwed them out of millions of dollars.
They may say he screwed them out of a bunch of Tiffany Gift Cards.
It is a known fact that Axel has been escorted out of Casinos by security more than once.
That's what I like about you anonymous armchair gamblers.
The Detroit Lions play Amped-Up on Thanksgiving!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.SingerA "known fact"...or just another AP wishful thinking, unverified/unverifiable feel-good claim?Quote:
Originally Posted by monetDepends on what side of the fence you are on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
The Casino side may say Axel has screwed them out of millions of dollars.
They may say he screwed them out of a bunch of Tiffany Gift Cards.
It is a known fact that Axel has been escorted out of Casinos by security more than once.
That's what I like about you anonymous armchair gamblers.
They also enjoy grilling burgers and walks on the beach every year on this Holiday.
You just keep on proving that an education is needed before anyone, esp. bums, should be allowed to post anything on the internet.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmSo if someone is selling something they are hard up for cash? You must have been hard up so you sold that camper, right? He could easily sell the stuff on eBay. And I didn't see any begging going on. That's just your phony embellishment. What you don't know and won't learn is how these kind of advantage plays work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
I bumped into Shirley's family at the Edgewater twice in the not-too-distant past. She had not moved to Calif. as of less than a year ago. You blindly believe all the stories Dancer writes, simply because you spew the same type of lies in all of your by-gone tales. The divorce info? All available online. Give it a try.Or maybe you wont--imagine mickey finally having to suck in the facts.
As I said, a moron like you would never want to understand how and why an addicted problem gambler like axel would ever possibly need to peddle gift cards for a discount on a forum with so few participants. Wake up bozo! He knows he could never unload them at face value, and by golly gee....a gambler actually buying something decent for his wife, who he defaced here as unworthy of Tiffany by blaming her?
All those supposed "highly bankrolled/highly knowlegeable" contacts he and others paint him as having, don't exist in any format other than being nothing but degenerate gamblers like him, and obviously they're all like you and have zero knowledge of Tiffany products.
Wise up.
This is odd stuff. Who in their right mind would EVER play for thousands of dollars in Zappo shoe cards....and who is desperate enough to even BOTHER trying to hack into someone else's shoe card?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Is this even real? Dan playing for shoes at the Cosmo? How many millions in play was required for that? And where was the post about playing at the Cosmo back in 2012? I remember the complaint about not playing enuf at Caesar's to get a free bottle of Gatorade. What's going on here anyway--one upmanship of axel's claim? C'mon man!
Are you applying for your "AP Badge of Honor" Dan??
Yep, and after all the trash talking for years you did to them Shirley's family rolled out the red carpet for you? Told you everything? You betcha, Robocchio. And you were snooping around online looking for their divorce papers? Proves your sick obsession with Bob Dancer. It just makes you sick that he continues to ignore you and your sick bullshit. What a psychotically sick SOB. What a baby. Grow up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.SingerYou just keep on proving that an education is needed before anyone, esp. bums, should be allowed to post anything on the internet.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmSo if someone is selling something they are hard up for cash? You must have been hard up so you sold that camper, right? He could easily sell the stuff on eBay. And I didn't see any begging going on. That's just your phony embellishment. What you don't know and won't learn is how these kind of advantage plays work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
I bumped into Shirley's family at the Edgewater twice in the not-too-distant past. She had not moved to Calif. as of less than a year ago. You blindly believe all the stories Dancer writes, simply because you spew the same type of lies in all of your by-gone tales. The divorce info? All available online. Give it a try.Or maybe you wont--imagine mickey finally having to suck in the facts.
As I said, a moron like you would never want to understand how and why an addicted problem gambler like axel would ever possibly need to peddle gift cards for a discount on a forum with so few participants. Wake up bozo! He knows he could never unload them at face value, and by golly gee....a gambler actually buying something decent for his wife, who he defaced here as unworthy of Tiffany by blaming her?
All those supposed "highly bankrolled/highly knowlegeable" contacts he and others paint him as having, don't exist in any format other than being nothing but degenerate gamblers like him, and obviously they're all like you and have zero knowledge of Tiffany products.
Wise up.
Actually, Tiffany products are highly overrated. They are comprised of a lot of Chinese junk marked up +1000%. If you know a Tiffany employee you can already get 50% off anything they sell thru them. If they give you access to the discontinued product list for employees you can get stuff that sold for 100's for as little as $5. Don't let facts get in the way of your BS though Robocchio.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.SingerYou just keep on proving that an education is needed before anyone, esp. bums, should be allowed to post anything on the internet.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmSo if someone is selling something they are hard up for cash? You must have been hard up so you sold that camper, right? He could easily sell the stuff on eBay. And I didn't see any begging going on. That's just your phony embellishment. What you don't know and won't learn is how these kind of advantage plays work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
I bumped into Shirley's family at the Edgewater twice in the not-too-distant past. She had not moved to Calif. as of less than a year ago. You blindly believe all the stories Dancer writes, simply because you spew the same type of lies in all of your by-gone tales. The divorce info? All available online. Give it a try.Or maybe you wont--imagine mickey finally having to suck in the facts.
As I said, a moron like you would never want to understand how and why an addicted problem gambler like axel would ever possibly need to peddle gift cards for a discount on a forum with so few participants. Wake up bozo! He knows he could never unload them at face value, and by golly gee....a gambler actually buying something decent for his wife, who he defaced here as unworthy of Tiffany by blaming her?
All those supposed "highly bankrolled/highly knowlegeable" contacts he and others paint him as having, don't exist in any format other than being nothing but degenerate gamblers like him, and obviously they're all like you and have zero knowledge of Tiffany products.
Wise up.
What a dummy. You might as well scream out loud about how you know nothing about marriage, relationships, or break-ups.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmYep, and after all the trash talking for years you did to them Shirley's family rolled out the red carpet for you? Told you everything? You betcha, Robocchio. And you were snooping around online looking for their divorce papers? Proves your sick obsession with Bob Dancer. It just makes you sick that he continues to ignore you and your sick bullshit. What a psychotically sick SOB. What a baby. Grow up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.SingerYou just keep on proving that an education is needed before anyone, esp. bums, should be allowed to post anything on the internet.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
I bumped into Shirley's family at the Edgewater twice in the not-too-distant past. She had not moved to Calif. as of less than a year ago. You blindly believe all the stories Dancer writes, simply because you spew the same type of lies in all of your by-gone tales. The divorce info? All available online. Give it a try.Or maybe you wont--imagine mickey finally having to suck in the facts.
As I said, a moron like you would never want to understand how and why an addicted problem gambler like axel would ever possibly need to peddle gift cards for a discount on a forum with so few participants. Wake up bozo! He knows he could never unload them at face value, and by golly gee....a gambler actually buying something decent for his wife, who he defaced here as unworthy of Tiffany by blaming her?
All those supposed "highly bankrolled/highly knowlegeable" contacts he and others paint him as having, don't exist in any format other than being nothing but degenerate gamblers like him, and obviously they're all like you and have zero knowledge of Tiffany products.
Wise up.
We all know the despicable way Dancer abused Shirley. So obviously, her family took HER side and can't stand him since the divorce. And guess how they talk about him ever since. Make sense yet mickey, or don't your "street smarts" get that?
All nonsense max. The #1 product line they have is special stones and jewelry. Look it up. That debunks your "Chinese junk" theory right there. I don't know any Tiffany employees, but even a cave man can smell you stepping up to the plate to try and save axel-face.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxPenActually, Tiffany products are highly overrated. They are comprised of a lot of Chinese junk marked up +1000%. If you know a Tiffany employee you can already get 50% off anything they sell thru them. If they give you access to the discontinued product list for employees you can get stuff that sold for 100's for as little as $5. Don't let facts get in the way of your BS though Robocchio.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.SingerYou just keep on proving that an education is needed before anyone, esp. bums, should be allowed to post anything on the internet.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
I bumped into Shirley's family at the Edgewater twice in the not-too-distant past. She had not moved to Calif. as of less than a year ago. You blindly believe all the stories Dancer writes, simply because you spew the same type of lies in all of your by-gone tales. The divorce info? All available online. Give it a try.Or maybe you wont--imagine mickey finally having to suck in the facts.
As I said, a moron like you would never want to understand how and why an addicted problem gambler like axel would ever possibly need to peddle gift cards for a discount on a forum with so few participants. Wake up bozo! He knows he could never unload them at face value, and by golly gee....a gambler actually buying something decent for his wife, who he defaced here as unworthy of Tiffany by blaming her?
All those supposed "highly bankrolled/highly knowlegeable" contacts he and others paint him as having, don't exist in any format other than being nothing but degenerate gamblers like him, and obviously they're all like you and have zero knowledge of Tiffany products.
Wise up.
We all know the despicable way you treated Bob and Shirley. But they forgave you and invited you in after all your years of publicly trashing them? You betcha, Robocchio. That nose is getting longer and longer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.SingerWhat a dummy. You might as well scream out loud about how you know nothing about marriage, relationships, or break-ups.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmYep, and after all the trash talking for years you did to them Shirley's family rolled out the red carpet for you? Told you everything? You betcha, Robocchio. And you were snooping around online looking for their divorce papers? Proves your sick obsession with Bob Dancer. It just makes you sick that he continues to ignore you and your sick bullshit. What a psychotically sick SOB. What a baby. Grow up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
We all know the despicable way Dancer abused Shirley. So obviously, her family took HER side and can't stand him since the divorce. And guess how they talk about him ever since. Make sense yet mickey, or don't your "street smarts" get that?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.SingerAll nonsense max. The #1 product line they have is special stones and jewelry. Look it up. That debunks your "Chinese junk" theory right there. I don't know any Tiffany employees, but even a cave man can smell you stepping up to the plate to try and save axel-face.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxPenActually, Tiffany products are highly overrated. They are comprised of a lot of Chinese junk marked up +1000%. If you know a Tiffany employee you can already get 50% off anything they sell thru them. If they give you access to the discontinued product list for employees you can get stuff that sold for 100's for as little as $5. Don't let facts get in the way of your BS though Robocchio.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Okay, let me try to translate Argentino's thought processes as a service for the poor sane saps who follow what he says.
Argentino is arguing that MaxPen is trying to "save axel-face" by saying that Tiffany products are "highly overrated" and "comprised of a lot of Chinese junk." Yes, it is true that axel is trying to sell gift cards for Tiffany products. So for the uninitiated, it may be real hard to fathom how denigrating Tiffany products is in service of someone trying to sell gift cards to buy those products. I had a hard time understanding it myself.
Then I realized that (1) the roads are jammed for the holidays, so RV driving is a bitch, and (2) perhaps logic has taken a back seat to imbibing.
Carry on.
You need to translate your own stuff first.
We aren't leaving the house until next Wed. Don't you have any leftovers? (or are you using Denny's Gift Cards?)
If AW has to come in here and post a thread in the Las Vegas Forum to sell Tiffany Gift Cards at a discount they must have nothing but Chinese Junk at a 95% markup.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
I mean this AxelWolf, is the best! He gets all the free creams and lotions.
If those cards were worth anything he would of already sold them like hot cakes.
This Super Advantage Player is on this Forum selling these cards at a 40% discount which tells you that you should be buying them at an 80% discount.
AW doesn't just give things away and especially to the members on this forum which are mostly against him.
What is amazing is that Dan Druff approves AxelWolf selling his gift cards right here in the Las Vegas Forum.
He didn't even have to move it to some other topic or forum thread since it neatly fits in with the Las Vegas information.
If you sell a Tiffany Gift Card do you have to show the profit on your taxes at the end of the year?
What if you sold it for less than the value on the Gift Card?
I must of missed it where he was on WoV and DT selling Tiffany Gift Cards.
Since Christmas is rolling around the corner and AxelWolf is some highly respected AP with a multitude of friends you would think he would just give them away as gifts but of course Mammon rules the Heart.
Worst case scenario he can trade them for bottles of Captain Morgan.
Next Singer will be selling the Singer Five information at a discount as well but I am not buying till he at least ups it to the Singer Ten.
Whether Tiffany is quality or overpriced junk is immaterial here.
Some people may be planning upon shopping there anyway because their wife/gf/whatever wants Tiffany stuff.
In such a case, it's much better to buy these gift cards at a big discount.
I believe that's what Axel is going for here.
And yes, it's quite common to end up with gift cards as part of a casino promotion, and then try to unload them for cash if you don't have much use for them.
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
About 12 years ago when I was a news reporter I did a story about shopping at Tiffany for one of my Best Buys news specials. I reported on some FOUR HUNDRED Tiffany items priced at $50 or less.
Inflation has taken its toll. Tiffany no longer has a listing of items priced $50 or less but they do list items at $250 or less.
https://m.tiffany.com/gifts/gifts-250-under?tfr=1
Now to be honest you're still paying for the name. You can buy similar products for half the price.
Any reputable jeweler can sell you top tier jewelry for far less than what Tiffany charges. And that's reality.
You're paying for the name and in the case of diamonds you're paying for the guarantee. And for diamonds you are paying dearly for that guarantee.
I don't know about AxelWolf's gift cards. There are too many warnings on the web about the risks. Basic risk: what if they get lost in the mail? What if the PIN has been revealed? Who knows how they were handled by the casino.
Several years ago Total Rewards had one hell of a problem with Shell gas cards from the Great Gift Wrap Up. Caesars forgot to activate the cards and replacement cards had to be sent out. If there's a problem with AxelWolf's cards where are the replacement cards going to be sent? If I bought them from AxelWolf, Tiffany certainly wouldn't send replacement cards to me.
By the way, with those Shell cards I gave them out as gifts and Shell sent me the replacement cards and then I had to give them out all over again.
On another subject, WTF is Dan Druff playing a promotion for SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS of Zappos Shoes gift cards? Was he dating Imelda Marcos at the time?
Dan that is so out of character for you, Mr. Cheap. You're the guy who times out his Seven Stars play over two years to maximize your Seven Stars benefits. You stop dead in your tracks at 150,000 points yet you played how many dollars for Zappos cards?
For a guy who can't get a casino host because he doesn't play enough, and for a guy who had trouble booking rooms because he doesn't play enough, and for a guy who gets ignored by the casino and couldn't get Gatorade sent up to his room because he doesn't play enough (and the casino made him sick), you played how much for SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS of Zappos cards?
We've all gotten gift card offers and the basic show up gift card amount is around $300.
Please tell me your figure of SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS was a mistake or that's the day you wanted to blow off the winnings from a Megabucks jackpot.
Thanks Dan and everyone else who participated with positive comments.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Alan, I can guarantee the gift cards will be new. I can meet the person at the store and they can watch as new gift cards are issued and handed directly to the buyer. After that, I have no clue what can or can't happen with any type of gift card from any place that someone buys from. Personally, I would rather have slightly less cash than a gift card since they can get miss placed, lost or stolen if you are not as careful as you would be with cash. For example, I might leave a gift card in my car but I wouldn't leave cash in there. I might be getting too many cards in my wallet and take some out and forget where I put them or they somehow find their way under the kitchen appliances.
Most of the times where I have made deals regarding store gift cards such as Tiffany's the buyer just went on a shopping spree. Then I just used the gift cards and paid for their stuff and they just gave me the cash.
I talked to a lady at the Pawn shop and she said she would pay 45% for certain items(gold) that were NEW as long and I brought a sales slip in my name. That way she could sell the item as brand new.
Just going to say in defense of Dan, not that he needs to explain anything he did, Cosmo had some incredible promotions years ago. MANY people on here and elsewhere made arge profits from them. The new casino was struggling to find its place and made many mistakes that were in the players advantage. Obviously Dan took advantage of one of them and while I don’t know the exact details of that one, I’m thinking the Gift Cards were icing on the cake.
Those days are long gone and Blackstone hires people to better watch the bottom line.
Just another promotion where Alan can’t see the forest for the trees. Fucking idiot, period.
Not just Vegas either. I mentioned that I got Tiffany cards once but that was a buy with comps event that was slightly less than dollar for dollar at the level I purchased at but much less at higher levels. But I've done several in recent years that were invitation only - either $x in gift cards for every $x in play over a specific period (like a week), or large amounts based on particular point levels earned over a defined period with both established individually by player based on play history. The former could have certainly generated that level of prize, if one had reasons or desire to work it, and the latter, while my offers weren't ever that high, was certainly lucrative for people who had past play to generate a higher offer and who were able and willing to play for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
All that is common understanding, but it was also dodging the main point. These super duper "AP's" here have been crowing about what a big deal their little axel is in the land of "highly bankrolled & respected" successful/winning/casino-killing/all-balls/luminary & savant-level LV knowledgeable gamblers. But let's get real for a change.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Yet with all these big shots that supposedly ride out of the same stables as axel, he cannot find even ONE Tiffany-loving/discount-seeking/woman-pleasing player in his sacred bunch? This alone is incredible, given the reputation we see planted here. What's even MORE fandangolicious is why he would try to peddle the cards here! Obviously, he's a little short on the money.
Undoubtedly, he would take $800 or even less if it were offered.
Looking at the other side of these "promos": I've been in Cosmo 3 times playing no promotions on their not-so-great pay tables for 3-4 hours total, and I've netted a little over $2k in profit. I still get crappy offers from them but the place ain't my bag.Quote:
Originally Posted by pkspinsNot just Vegas either. I mentioned that I got Tiffany cards once but that was a buy with comps event that was slightly less than dollar for dollar at the level I purchased at but much less at higher levels. But I've done several in recent years that were invitation only - either $x in gift cards for every $x in play over a specific period (like a week), or large amounts based on particular point levels earned over a defined period with both established individually by player based on play history. The former could have certainly generated that level of prize, if one had reasons or desire to work it, and the latter, while my offers weren't ever that high, was certainly lucrative for people who had past play to generate a higher offer and who were able and willing to play for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
On the Zappos thing, I agree. It doesn't even begin to pass the Dan test.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Don't worry Robocchio, I'm sure if Axel ever winds up with gift cards for vintage electronics and the CB store, he will offer them up here for you. Of course EBT cards will not be accepted, at least I think they wouldn't be. Oh that's right, Uncle Sam cut you off for welfare fraud.
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Originally Posted by Rob.SingerLooking at the other side of these "promos": I've been in Cosmo 3 times playing no promotions on their not-so-great pay tables for 3-4 hours total, and I've netted a little over $2k in profit. I still get crappy offers from them but the place ain't my bag.Quote:
Originally Posted by pkspinsNot just Vegas either. I mentioned that I got Tiffany cards once but that was a buy with comps event that was slightly less than dollar for dollar at the level I purchased at but much less at higher levels. But I've done several in recent years that were invitation only - either $x in gift cards for every $x in play over a specific period (like a week), or large amounts based on particular point levels earned over a defined period with both established individually by player based on play history. The former could have certainly generated that level of prize, if one had reasons or desire to work it, and the latter, while my offers weren't ever that high, was certainly lucrative for people who had past play to generate a higher offer and who were able and willing to play for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
I’ll bite, why would ANYONE play their bad paytables with no promotion?
And of course you made a profit.
So are you saying your system is so good you don’t even care about the paytables?
And fuck no, the place isn’t for you, no RV parking, no shitter dump and they monitor the Men’s room.
Rob, you have no clue how much I had, how much I have already sold, and who wants what. I have plenty of time to figure it out, as to why I didn't jump at a 50% cash offer. Most of the people I know have their own Gift cards or have already bought enough high priced stuff from me they don't really need any more. This isn't the first time I have had thousands of dollars in high end gift cards and it won't be the last. I have never had a problem selling the stuff. Since it's the holiday season I figured there might be someone here interested in a nice discount.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.SingerAll that is common understanding, but it was also dodging the main point. These super duper "AP's" here have been crowing about what a big deal their little axel is in the land of "highly bankrolled & respected" successful/winning/casino-killing/all-balls/luminary & savant-level LV knowledgeable gamblers. But let's get real for a change.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Yet with all these big shots that supposedly ride out of the same stables as axel, he cannot find even ONE Tiffany-loving/discount-seeking/woman-pleasing player in his sacred bunch? This alone is incredible, given the reputation we see planted here. What's even MORE fandangolicious is why he would try to peddle the cards here! Obviously, he's a little short on the money.
Undoubtedly, he would take $800 or even less if it were offered.
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Originally Posted by The BozQuote:
Originally Posted by Rob.SingerLooking at the other side of these "promos": I've been in Cosmo 3 times playing no promotions on their not-so-great pay tables for 3-4 hours total, and I've netted a little over $2k in profit. I still get crappy offers from them but the place ain't my bag.Quote:
Originally Posted by pkspins
I’ll bite, why would ANYONE play their bad paytables with no promotion?
And of course you made a profit.
So are you saying your system is so good you don’t even care about the paytables?
And fuck no, the place isn’t for you, no RV parking, no shitter dump and they monitor the Men’s room.
Okay, that was funny!
Ask Argentino at what pay table do his systems fail. There has not, in almost 7000 posts, been an answer to that question. They always win. Otherwise, being a paragon of straight-shooting and honest reporting (almost on a level with a certain intrepid reporter), "Rob" would certainly have mentioned it.
It was $6000.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
I could have sold them for like 80% if I wanted to, so yes, they could have been turned into real cash.
That's why you and Rob are so confused about all of this. You only see "gift card" and think to yourself, "Why would anyone play for gift cards?", not understanding that they can either be useful to the winner, sold for cash at a markdown, or both.
No Dan. The question is what was Mr Cheap doing putting thru extra coin in to get gift cards?
How much coin in was required for each $100 or $1000 of gift card? Of course you know, you're an AP. And what games did you play? Paytables please.
Why does he owe you an answer? You won’t believe it either way and just ask more questions trying to catch him in what you think is impossible. It’s why you are broke, you refuse to believe AP is possible even when shown past examples. Honestly why would anyone share a current advantage with you? It’s not worth the hassle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
And it’s now obvious paytables don’t matter if you follow Singer’s system, read above.
Playing for $6,000 of Zappos Shoes gift cards, and holding onto them, is an AP play? I guess if you have a shoe fetish it is.
What you continue to fail to consider is the cards were a bonus in addition to the play he was on. Again years ago Cosmo had some very juicy offers. So if he was ona good play, why would he have stopped?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Remember when Cosmo offered a $100 loss rebate to anyone. And gave free rooms to new players in addition. Some made a living off the loss rebate for a while.
Certainly no Dan defender but he obviously knew what he was doing, but again you only see him being “stuck” with $6000 in Gift Cards. Honestly you can’t make this shit up.
That's right. I can't make this shit up. Average shoe price from Zappos is about $50, but prices range from $15 to $200. Let's say Dan spends $100 per pair averaging shoes for his son and himself and girlfriend. That's 60 pair of shoes. If he buys a total of 20 pair per year that's 3 years of online shoe buying. What a deal.
The Macy's gift card deals at Caesars weren't good enough? Had he played at the Caesars promotion he would have Macy's cards and rooms for the WSOP.
I don't see the issue here. There exists an established, burgeoning market for gift cards that has some maturity to it. The cards generally fall into specific price ranges based on the type of card, so one knows ahead of time if the likely sales discount price is 70% or 80% or 90% of face value. If I were playing a lot, I would not account the values until sold, but there's little to no risk. People are unloading gift cards all of the time, whether earned in casinos or not.
People aren't unloading them all the time on this Las Vegas Casino Talk Forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Especially the King of Aps who has all the free creams and lotions.
Especially to a board that has a high percentage of members who do not agree or believe in Axel we Trust.
It just seems the oddest place to try to offload a mess of Tiffany Gift Cards none the less.
I guess these guys don't associate with WoN anymore.
He would of been able to get rid of them with a much higher success rate.
I am not opposed to selling your Gift Cards but the Captain Morgan of everything AP in Vegas trying to pawn them off on this site is odd.
After that you have Maxpen constantly endorsing this plan.
You also have a member named Boz who wants nothing to do with this site or the members but constantly posts these days.
At least he would be giving his son something, assholeQuote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
You mean his degenerate, gamble on anything son, named Slap n Funk??Quote:
Originally Posted by KeystoneAt least he would be giving his son something, assholeQuote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Why would you give him anything?
It is just going to end up in the machines or at some BJ table?
This thread proves that this forum and it's "AP gang" are performing in a theater of the absurd. LMAO
There's nothing wrong with buying or selling gift cards. Just be careful that the cards are valid. What you buy/sell them for is a decision each person makes based on their utility. If I were shopping at Tiffany I absolutely would buy gift cards at a discount.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
But I can't get over Dan and his shoe card play.
Alan, you keep ignoring the point made by Boz that the Zappos cards could have been earned incidentally while working some play with a different primary benefit (cash back,mailers, free play, tier level, etc.). If this is the case, then the Zappos gift card worth is gravy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Tableplay it's very interesting that you and Boz ran to Dan's defense without Dan even telling what his play was. Thanks to Google, I was able to find the Zappos 2012 gift card promotion at the Cosmo.
Alan, if Dan says Zappos was his only goal for running action then I will eat crow, otherwise, unlike you, I am not going to assume it was and then fault him for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Currently Cosmo has a Find the Key promo along with their annual Holiday Cash rebate. While due to reduced VP multipliers, even with Platinum, it may make sense for some.
Again Alan has no fucking clue. Engaging him is a waste of time but it’s halftime and I already pissed.
Actually Boz YOU have no fucking clue. You'll run to the defense of anyone who uses the code AP without even knowing the details. It's one big circle jerk for all of you.
Did the Fertitta clan overlook your turkey dinner comp this year at Red Rock? You seem grumpier than usual.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
One more week to go until the 1st. It's OK, you're degenerate ass will be back in action soon.
Stupid fuck probably sharked 1/2 the check in advance at a point a week to get his fix.
It's solid knowledge that anyone who goes into a play where they've created a "+EV" play out of it, will always use the full expected value of a gift card promotion as a part of the calculation to play. We've even seen info from other ap's here which tout the Cosmo's gift card promos in the past as AP-gems. Yet only after the tough questions pop up does the agenda change to "no AP uses the full value in their play theories".Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayAlan, you keep ignoring the point made by Boz that the Zappos cards could have been earned incidentally while working some play with a different primary benefit (cash back,mailers, free play, tier level, etc.). If this is the case, then the Zappos gift card worth is gravy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Sorry guys, the dam broke long ago....
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Originally Posted by Rob.SingerIt's solid knowledge that anyone who goes into a play where they've created a "+EV" play out of it, will always use the full expected value of a gift card promotion as a part of the calculation to play. We've even seen info from other ap's here which tout the Cosmo's gift card promos in the past as AP-gems. Yet only after the tough questions pop up does the agenda change to "no AP uses the full value in their play theories".Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayAlan, you keep ignoring the point made by Boz that the Zappos cards could have been earned incidentally while working some play with a different primary benefit (cash back,mailers, free play, tier level, etc.). If this is the case, then the Zappos gift card worth is gravy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Sorry guys, the dam broke long ago....
LOL. "It's solid knowledge..." Is that different from gaseous knowledge or fluid knowledge? What kind of a reference to authority is that? Is that the kind of writing they taught to engineers?
I've only gotten a few gift cards in my life from casinos, and it never even occurred to me to count them as anything. So I guess I would be one of them thar APer guys who don't count them gift cards as bein' worth nuttin'.
Am I getting the "engineer" lingo down? I'm sorry, dude. My best friends in college were all engineers. One was nuclear, one electrical, one was some kind of general. I edited many of their papers. They tried to pull the same inane passive voice appeal-to-authority stuff you just did. To quote our Prez, "Sad."
Robbochio was some sort of broadcast engineer until he got fired. Basically, he set up the microphone for the real talent. I wonder if he ever setup Alan's microphone? Someone has to do it for the 2-bit talent as well.😃Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzQuote:
Originally Posted by Rob.SingerIt's solid knowledge that anyone who goes into a play where they've created a "+EV" play out of it, will always use the full expected value of a gift card promotion as a part of the calculation to play. We've even seen info from other ap's here which tout the Cosmo's gift card promos in the past as AP-gems. Yet only after the tough questions pop up does the agenda change to "no AP uses the full value in their play theories".Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
Sorry guys, the dam broke long ago....
LOL. "It's solid knowledge..." Is that different from gaseous knowledge or fluid knowledge? What kind of a reference to authority is that? Is that the kind of writing they taught to engineers?
I've only gotten a few gift cards in my life from casinos, and it never even occurred to me to count them as anything. So I guess I would be one of them thar APer guys who don't count them gift cards as bein' worth nuttin'.
Am I getting the "engineer" lingo down? I'm sorry, dude. My best friends in college were all engineers. One was nuclear, one electrical, one was some kind of general. I edited many of their papers. They tried to pull the same inane passive voice appeal-to-authority stuff you just did. To quote our Prez, "Sad."
Solid knowledge, huh? Why would anyone calculate in the full value when they plan on selling for half price? What kind of stupid shit is that? Just more Robocchio bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.SingerIt's solid knowledge that anyone who goes into a play where they've created a "+EV" play out of it, will always use the full expected value of a gift card promotion as a part of the calculation to play. We've even seen info from other ap's here which tout the Cosmo's gift card promos in the past as AP-gems. Yet only after the tough questions pop up does the agenda change to "no AP uses the full value in their play theories".Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayAlan, you keep ignoring the point made by Boz that the Zappos cards could have been earned incidentally while working some play with a different primary benefit (cash back,mailers, free play, tier level, etc.). If this is the case, then the Zappos gift card worth is gravy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Sorry guys, the dam broke long ago....
I played a machine that was a 5% loser hoping my gift cards would get face value and I would make 1% on my play. Come to find out I can only get about 50%.
Can someone help a brother out and buy them for 60%.
I need to eat and feed my children and pets. Thanks in advance.
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Originally Posted by AxelWolf
Cats or dogs? Makes all the difference.
Yes, my strategy has won on several "negative" pay tables for BP and the advanced BP games.Quote:
Originally Posted by The BozQuote:
Originally Posted by Rob.SingerLooking at the other side of these "promos": I've been in Cosmo 3 times playing no promotions on their not-so-great pay tables for 3-4 hours total, and I've netted a little over $2k in profit. I still get crappy offers from them but the place ain't my bag.Quote:
Originally Posted by pkspins
I’ll bite, why would ANYONE play their bad paytables with no promotion?
And of course you made a profit.
So are you saying your system is so good you don’t even care about the paytables?
And fuck no, the place isn’t for you, no RV parking, no shitter dump and they monitor the Men’s room.
I recall they do park my Charger and Lexus in valet.
Axel, you geniuses jump on me whenever you can, making up story after story and by-line after by-line because I see thru the AP BS. Yet when I come back in your faces with obvious deductions, you people jump up and down like spoiled little children who just got grounded.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfRob, you have no clue how much I had, how much I have already sold, and who wants what. I have plenty of time to figure it out, as to why I didn't jump at a 50% cash offer. Most of the people I know have their own Gift cards or have already bought enough high priced stuff from me they don't really need any more. This isn't the first time I have had thousands of dollars in high end gift cards and it won't be the last. I have never had a problem selling the stuff. Since it's the holiday season I figured there might be someone here interested in a nice discount.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.SingerAll that is common understanding, but it was also dodging the main point. These super duper "AP's" here have been crowing about what a big deal their little axel is in the land of "highly bankrolled & respected" successful/winning/casino-killing/all-balls/luminary & savant-level LV knowledgeable gamblers. But let's get real for a change.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Yet with all these big shots that supposedly ride out of the same stables as axel, he cannot find even ONE Tiffany-loving/discount-seeking/woman-pleasing player in his sacred bunch? This alone is incredible, given the reputation we see planted here. What's even MORE fandangolicious is why he would try to peddle the cards here! Obviously, he's a little short on the money.
Undoubtedly, he would take $800 or even less if it were offered.
I have no idea what you did, got, or what it means to you---and neither does anybody else. But on the flip side of that, you and your gang choose to make up stupid scenarios about Alan and myself, probably because you folks don't want it to be that Alan's got more retirement money than you'll ever have and I and my wife have enough to spend minimum $10k/month at least until I'm 123.
It's all about hate with you guys. Learn to take it better.
I no longer have a doggy as he passed away a while ago(I'm still sad). We had a cool mouse who died recently(So sad) he would beat up the cats and ferret (no joke)Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzQuote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
Cats or dogs? Makes all the difference.
However, (true story) we have 2 cats (one I saved from heat stroke and certain death) 3 hedhogds, a
well behaved cute ferret and 4 turtles (the turtles are outside and might be cold, money will help me buy more heaters for them)
We do babysit little doggys often.
Please help save my babies and let them live the good life.
For only 2600, you too can save an animal.
Please no 1970's leaking roof camper's.
And all this time, I've been wasting my time being jealous of 21 year old Kylie Jenner (as disgusting as she and her family may be) who is a billionaire instead of Rob and Alan. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.SingerAxel, you geniuses jump on me whenever you can, making up story after story and by-line after by-line because I see thru the AP BS. Yet when I come back in your faces with obvious deductions, you people jump up and down like spoiled little children who just got grounded.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfRob, you have no clue how much I had, how much I have already sold, and who wants what. I have plenty of time to figure it out, as to why I didn't jump at a 50% cash offer. Most of the people I know have their own Gift cards or have already bought enough high priced stuff from me they don't really need any more. This isn't the first time I have had thousands of dollars in high end gift cards and it won't be the last. I have never had a problem selling the stuff. Since it's the holiday season I figured there might be someone here interested in a nice discount.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
I have no idea what you did, got, or what it means to you---and neither does anybody else. But on the flip side of that, you and your gang choose to make up stupid scenarios about Alan and myself, probably because you folks don't want it to be that Alan's got more retirement money than you'll ever have and I and my wife have enough to spend minimum $10k/month at least until I'm 123.
It's all about hate with you guys. Learn to take it better.
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Originally Posted by AxelWolfI no longer have a doggy as he passed away a while ago(I'm still sad). We had a cool mouse who died recently(So sad) he would beat up the cats and ferret (no joke)Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzQuote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
Cats or dogs? Makes all the difference.
However, (true story) we have 2 cats (one I saved from heat stroke and certain death) 3 hedhogds, a
well behaved cute ferret and 4 turtles (the turtles are outside and might be cold, money will help me buy more heaters for them)
That is so cool. The turtles here keep wandering down the mountain, and I have to keep them out of harm's way, although I do not adopt. Ferret, cats, and hedgehogs? Wow.
We do babysit little doggys often.
Please help save my babies and let them live the good life.
For only 2600, you too can save an animal.