2019 results

So on the 24th day of the year, I moved into the black for the first time. Yahhhhooo! :) (where is the dancing emoji)

At $187.50 blackjack profits, I could buy myself a good steak dinner. :rolleyes: It's a good thing I don't have rent to pay.


24 days is really nothing. In 2013, I was in the red until mid April, the longest negative start to a year I have encountered. Funny, thing, was results exploded over the next 5 weeks that year. 115, thousand dollars profit in 5 weeks. It seemed like every max bet, every double down, every split won during that period. :) And 2013 ended up being my best year ever as far as blackjack results (still is).

Boy I would like to go on a run like that again. But regardless, at least for today, when I look at my year to date records, I see a spec of black among that sea of red, where yesterday there was none.

How did 2018 end?

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Why? so people can cast doubt, challenge me to prove this or that? :(

The last quarter was down. 20k down from the high point of the year back in the fall, just before that very negative week that we talked about.

But the year overall very good. My second best Blackjack year of my career.

However. My non- blackjack supplemental AP machine play, was down significantly. $8200. I have averaged better than 20k supplemental machine play for years prior. AND more than half of my $8200 occurred before my partner passed in early April. This portion of my AP play was already declining, due to casinos tightening up offers. And with my Partner, who handled all this play, now gone, I just don't have the time, nor desire to invest much time in this aspect any more. I am willing to let this supplemental part of my AP go. I am now playing just enough to keep some food offers rolling in so I can eat for free each day. That is likely to be the extent of my supplemental play going forward. I am back to my blackjack roots. :cool:

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

So on the 24th day of the year, I moved into the black for the first time. Yahhhhooo! :) (where is the dancing emoji)

At $187.50 blackjack profits, I could buy myself a good steak dinner. :rolleyes:

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This is kind of like a federal worker. I have been working all month, just have no pay check to show for it. :rolleyes:

Why would you start a thread about 2019 results if you wouldn't want to talk about 2018?

I'm sorry I asked. You'll probably now accuse me of trolling.

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Why would you start a thread about 2019 results if you wouldn't want to talk about 2018?

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It wasn't entitled 2018 results was it....it was entitled 2019 results. :rolleyes: I just was having a little fun with the fact that I am off to a very slow start.

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I'm sorry I asked. You'll probably now accuse me of trolling.

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No, I don't think it was your intent to troll in this case. No big deal.

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How did 2018 end?

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Why? so people can cast doubt, challenge me to prove this or that? :(

The last quarter was down. 20k down from the high point of the year back in the fall, just before that very negative week that we talked about.

But the year overall very good. My second best Blackjack year of my career.

However. My non- blackjack supplemental AP machine play, was down significantly. $8200. I have averaged better than 20k supplemental machine play for years prior. AND more than half of my $8200 occurred before my partner passed in early April. This portion of my AP play was already declining, due to casinos tightening up offers. And with my Partner, who handled all this play, now gone, I just don't have the time, nor desire to invest much time in this aspect any more. I am willing to let this supplemental part of my AP go. I am now playing just enough to keep some food offers rolling in so I can eat for free each day. That is likely to be the extent of my supplemental play going forward. I am back to my blackjack roots. :cool:

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Because you open it up by putting this shit out there. Nothing wrong with Alan asking when you post this stuff.

Hard to defend you when others say you love the attention. And yes, I know you don’t want or need me defending you.

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So on the 24th day of the year, I moved into the black for the first time..

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And on the 25th day. HE rested.

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Yahhhhooo! :) (where is the dancing emoji)

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Let's go with What's at ZZ for $200 Alex.

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At $187.50 blackjack profits, I could buy myself a good steak dinner. :rolleyes:

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Texas Roadhouse. Click your heels for 3 happy hours. And get that extra tube shot for your margarita. But call a cab.

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It's a good thing I don't have rent to pay.

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You paid off your condo/townhome? Impressive.

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24 days is really nothing.:

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Until the DOC says you have 3 weeks left to live.

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In 2013, I was in the red until mid April, the longest negative start to a year I have encountered. Funny, thing, was results exploded over the next 5 weeks that year. 115, thousand dollars profit in 5 weeks. It seemed like every max bet, every double down, every split won during that period. :) And 2013 ended up being my best year ever as far as blackjack results (still is)..:

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I used to tell one of my star players. Just play the game. Stop worrying about the scorebook.

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Boy I would like to go on a run like that again. But regardless, at least for today, when I look at my year to date records, I see a spec of black among that sea of red, where yesterday there was none.

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Yes. We all have our runs. And get the runs from a bad buffet.

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Because you open it up by putting this shit out there. Nothing wrong with Alan asking when you post this stuff.

Hard to defend you when others say you love the attention. And yes, I know you don’t want or need me defending you.

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While I am unable to post a quote from WoV, here is a post you made word for word. You basically praised me (and thank you btw) for sharing my blackjack experiences, which is something I have tried to do since the day, I began posting in the blackjack/AP community, more than a dozen years ago now.

That is all I was doing here Boz, lightheartedly, posting about the slow start to the year I am having. It isn't me that has changed, Mr. Boz. :confused:

June 6th, 2016 at 6:18:32 AM
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KJ put a lot of info out on this forum, including earnings from his BJ playing. He offered advice on his VP coupons, reviews of buffets in town and more. He talked about his family situation and even his marriage. He did this while I assume trying to keep his identity secret for obvious reasons. Most of the true APers on here do as well, simply trying to protect their business interests.

I don't remember any legitimate poster having an issue with KJ until the situation with Norm came up and it hit KJ hard for reasons I still don't fully understand but again most backed him on here. Now i see posters starting to question his backstory and speak differently about him.

It's sad it ended this way and again the biggest loser is the forum. But it seems to be the trend here anymore to turn on anyone who doesn't say the things some want to hear.

BTW, the thread that this Boz post was taken from was a most interesting thread, entitled "KewlJ" started months after my banning at WoV by someone looking to trash me. It is hard to image I didn't know about this thread, maybe I just didn't remember until I stumbled on it this evening. But the guy wanting to trash me, didn't have a lot of success as most members, were very supportive of me, even months after my banning. To the point that Mr Shacky, angrily posted something along the line that I was dead to him and any references of me should go to his lawyer. (I need that laughing on the floor emoji again).

As I said, I don't really recall this thread, but I can't imagine I didn't know about it. But in re-reading tonight, looking for something totally unrelated, I was overwhelmed by the many comments of support (and I only reread 5-6 pages of the 28 page thread). Here is another post by member Ron C. makes me feel good that some members of the community and WoV appreciated what I tried to do. A belated thanks Ron C. and all the others that posted in support and there were quite a few. At least the WoV still has that "other guy" (QFIT) that Ron C speaks of. Oh wait...they don't. He is gone again, his intent never was to contribute. :rolleyes:

May 29th, 2016 at 2:35:15 PM
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As usual, Kewlj is posting some good info on that other forum about his side of the story. The most obvious thing is the loss of good contributor to someone who is not even a regular contributor to this forum over something that has been brewing across various boards for years. Kewlj admits some faults. The other guy? Not so much.

The "ban hammer" has fallen on too many decent members and this forum suffers because of it. Yes, they all "went off the rails" at some point, but what caused it? Oh, who cares...just ban them.

This board is not as good with so many decent contributors gone. Even if they were part of their own demise.

Also to my surprise and out of character, our MrV was extremely supportive. Thank you V.

And I have just reached the end of the KewlJ thread, where Shackleford says, "Normally I wouldn't do this on the grounds of free speech....thread closed.

Shades of my ban notice where Shacky posted, "normally we don't consider what is said on other forums, but I am banning KewlJ for something said on another forum".

For a guy so freaking anal about his rules....well I guess just when it's convenient for him. :rolleyes:

Which brings me full circle to this sock puppet fiasco. Hard and fast rule at WoV. No sock puppets. Except when management wants to use a bunch of sock puppets to bump up their sagging numbers.

A bit of a tangent, but how does your record keeping and actual cash/chips balance? As in, do they balance, or do you sometimes (frequently?) have an over or under the amount of cash/chips than your records dictate? Not accusing you of anything, btw. Just wondering because somewhat often my cash and records don’t balance — it’s not ever by much, and usually because I forgot to record a tip, a cash expense, or something small like that. Plus, dealing with other people (receiving and transferring money is probably the biggest factor to non-balancing records).

I just can’t imagine doing that with chips, that would be a total nightmare. Unless you specifically go to a casino with, say, exactly $500 or $1,000 in chips (plus whatever cash), making it easier to balance. But keeping track of 50c or 25c pieces? Oof. Not for me! I just generally try to have the same amount in my wallet starting off a day, which makes it easier to balance at the end of a session or play.



Either way, being up $187.50 is a lot better than being down 5 or 10k. In a way, though, it doesn’t really matter, since it’s an arbitrary figure (since Jan 1 when it could be since Dec 1 or Jan 15). But yes, one of the sad truths to AP is even if you bust your ass and put in many hours, you’re not necessarily going to make money. At least in the short term. Do you track your EV as well as standard deviation? I know you’ve said before but I can’t remember (and to me, tracking that stuff is interesting to see how all the lines move on a graph, and seeing a seemingly “big loss” is not that big in the grand scheme of things).


Another tangent, but what the hell. What do you think you would do if overnight blackjack in Vegas went to 100% CSMs, 6:5, or anything else that’d make it completely uncountable? Would you travel to play BJ? Start machine play in Vegas? Move to other forms of table games AP? Some other type of AP? Retire from AP?

Since KJ joined this site we are endlessly being subject to re-runs of his past problems with Qfuck, Shank, and whoever else from other forums. Just like this thread about win/loss, it only took a couple of posts before we got to the saga again.No matter where you go on this site, you’ll eventually be forced to read the same nonsense over and over again.

I see you quoted several posts from other forums who at one time at least loved you. Were these forum AP click members? Why not pull some negative posts? I’m sure there are plenty.

All you seek is attention regardless what angle you’ll use to get it. Just like this thread. Whatever you lost or didn’t earn so far this year, we all know you’re going to post about the recovery soon enough. A couple of times you posted about losing bundles that never technically were recovered. But, once again that won’t matter because at the end of the year regardless of your stories of un-recovered loses, we already know you’ll end up ahead because you still had a banner year through out except for those rough times when all is combined. You know the Plus-EV / Neg.-EV is going to work itself out because the math formula said so.

Does the math also say from Jan. 1 to Dec.31 the gambling math will always work itself out?

I’m polling for KJ’s banning from here just on the grounds from the amount of times he did and still is posting about how great it was at WOV until the devils Shank, and Qfuck teamed up and 86’d him from both places. It’s obvious he’s still bitter about all the volume of members he lost that were reading his posts. Why do you think he gives us reports on the WOV forums volume since he was banned. He's trying to claim responsibility for the down-slide. After all he felt like the BJ fairy godfather with loads of advice and wisdom, especially for newbies over there.

I’m sure he realizes by now his stories don’t fly very well where the majority of members are mostly mature experienced gamblers. These type of people know the tough questions to ask. He can't deal with this residence and will always make an argument for trolling, and convince others like Dan to buy into it.

We heard enough about Shank, Qfuck, and all the others he's had problems with. Either ban him from this site, or ban him from talking anymore about the same annoying shit. I think I know more details about KJ's issues then some people I knew my whole life.

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I'm guessing based on this comment by Boz, KJ made the rounds to the forum AP click via PM's to stop defending him.He may have finally realized how pathetic and obvious it was looking that most forum AP's were defending everything he said only based on forum posts without any other real life interactions, or real life facts. They coldn't pick him out in a line-up. LOL

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How did 2018 end?

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Why? so people can cast doubt, challenge me to prove this or that? :(

The last quarter was down. 20k down from the high point of the year back in the fall, just before that very negative week that we talked about.

But the year overall very good. My second best Blackjack year of my career.

However. My non- blackjack supplemental AP machine play, was down significantly. $8200. I have averaged better than 20k supplemental machine play for years prior. AND more than half of my $8200 occurred before my partner passed in early April. This portion of my AP play was already declining, due to casinos tightening up offers. And with my Partner, who handled all this play, now gone, I just don't have the time, nor desire to invest much time in this aspect any more. I am willing to let this supplemental part of my AP go. I am now playing just enough to keep some food offers rolling in so I can eat for free each day. That is likely to be the extent of my supplemental play going forward. I am back to my blackjack roots. :cool:

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Hey kJ, I’m one that has valued your posts - and advice - for at least two years now as a lurker. I don’t know or care what happened at the other forums where you got banned, but I’m glad you found this forum where free speech and debate is allowed.

Since you’ve been doing this for over ten years, I have a very general questions I hope you will answer. During your bj play, have you ever been a member of a team, or have you only worked as a lone wolf? It appears that most people on this site are lone wolfs. I’ve entertained joining a team for weekends, but so far haven’t gone down that road. I’ve heard too many horror stories about how team play can go wrong.

I’m interested in any advice - pros or cons...why you’ve done it, why you’ve stayed away from it, etc - you have on team play. Thanks!

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Hey kJ, I’m one that has valued your posts - and advice - for at least two years now as a lurker. I don’t know or care what happened at the other forums where you got banned, but I’m glad you found this forum where free speech and debate is allowed.

Since you’ve been doing this for over ten years, I have a very general questions I hope you will answer. During your bj play, have you ever been a member of a team, or have you only worked as a lone wolf? It appears that most people on this site are lone wolfs. I’ve entertained joining a team for weekends, but so far haven’t gone down that road. I’ve heard too many horror stories about how team play can go wrong.

I’m interested in any advice - pros or cons...why you’ve done it, why you’ve stayed away from it, etc - you have on team play. Thanks!

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Only took this new poster 4 posts to get to his goal. The ten year comment threw everyone off, since we all know it's 15 years. A lurker following KJ around don't know this? And of all threads to show up and post his love for KJ. First 4 posts was this posters love for Moses not one of KJ's favorite people here. Surprised Moses didn't catch on. I guess Moses expects to have fans suddenly show up after years of tracking.

Can you say SOCK PUPPET..... What's next with this weirdo??

Is this you KJ ??????????? Or a future boyfriend?

Dan ..... do something about this.

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Hey kJ, I’m one that has valued your posts - and advice - for at least two years now as a lurker. I don’t know or care what happened at the other forums where you got banned, but I’m glad you found this forum where free speech and debate is allowed.

Since you’ve been doing this for over ten years, I have a very general questions I hope you will answer. During your bj play, have you ever been a member of a team, or have you only worked as a lone wolf? It appears that most people on this site are lone wolfs. I’ve entertained joining a team for weekends, but so far haven’t gone down that road. I’ve heard too many horror stories about how team play can go wrong.

I’m interested in any advice - pros or cons...why you’ve done it, why you’ve stayed away from it, etc - you have on team play. Thanks!

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Only took this new poster 4 posts to get to his goal. The ten year comment threw everyone off, since we all know it's 15 years. A lurker following KJ around don't know this? And of all threads to show up and post his love for KJ. First 4 posts was this posters love for Moses not one of KJ's favorite people here. Surprised Moses didn't catch on. I guess Moses expects to have fans suddenly show up after years of tracking.

Can you say SOCK PUPPET..... What's next with this weirdo??

Is this you KJ ??????????? Or a future boyfriend?

Dan ..... do something about this.

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LOL

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Originally Posted by Bob21

Hey kJ, I’m one that has valued your posts - and advice - for at least two years now as a lurker. I don’t know or care what happened at the other forums where you got banned, but I’m glad you found this forum where free speech and debate is allowed.

Since you’ve been doing this for over ten years, I have a very general questions I hope you will answer. During your bj play, have you ever been a member of a team, or have you only worked as a lone wolf? It appears that most people on this site are lone wolfs. I’ve entertained joining a team for weekends, but so far haven’t gone down that road. I’ve heard too many horror stories about how team play can go wrong.

I’m interested in any advice - pros or cons...why you’ve done it, why you’ve stayed away from it, etc - you have on team play. Thanks!

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Only took this new poster 4 posts to get to his goal. The ten year comment threw everyone off, since we all know it's 15 years. A lurker following KJ around don't know this? And of all threads to show up and post his love for KJ. First 4 posts was this posters love for Moses not one of KJ's favorite people here. Surprised Moses didn't catch on. I guess Moses expects to have fans suddenly show up after years of tracking.

Can you say SOCK PUPPET..... What's next with this weirdo??

Is this you KJ ??????????? Or a future boyfriend?

Dan ..... do something about this.

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Prediction: Dan will ban Blackhole again.

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Hey kJ, I’m one that has valued your posts - and advice - for at least two years now as a lurker. I don’t know or care what happened at the other forums where you got banned, but I’m glad you found this forum where free speech and debate is allowed.

Since you’ve been doing this for over ten years, I have a very general questions I hope you will answer. During your bj play, have you ever been a member of a team, or have you only worked as a lone wolf? It appears that most people on this site are lone wolfs. I’ve entertained joining a team for weekends, but so far haven’t gone down that road. I’ve heard too many horror stories about how team play can go wrong.

I’m interested in any advice - pros or cons...why you’ve done it, why you’ve stayed away from it, etc - you have on team play. Thanks!

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Only took this new poster 4 posts to get to his goal. The ten year comment threw everyone off, since we all know it's 15 years. A lurker following KJ around don't know this? And of all threads to show up and post his love for KJ. First 4 posts was this posters love for Moses not one of KJ's favorite people here. Surprised Moses didn't catch on. I guess Moses expects to have fans suddenly show up after years of tracking.

Can you say SOCK PUPPET..... What's next with this weirdo??

Is this you KJ ??????????? Or a future boyfriend?

Dan ..... do something about this.

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Prediction: Dan will ban Blackhole again.

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Dan should. I asked a legitimate question with NO alternative motive and blackhole goes on a rant out in left field.

I’ve had several people ask me about joining up for team play and I’d be interested in some people (this includes Moses too and anybody else that would like to chime in) with their advice on this topic. This doesn’t mean I will follow it, but advice from people with more experience than me, I find helpful.

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If Dan and others want to remain in obvious denial, what could I say. As long as I could post and bring forward the obvious for all to see, I will.

This guy Bob falls out of the sky and starts posting conversations here thanking Moses for his writings, advice, and style of play which just so happen to be the complete opposite of what KJ believes. He actually asked where he could read more about Mosses play, this after following him for years.

Suddenly, he admits to also stalking KJ for years and loves him the same and got a lot out of KJ’s postings. The one topic KJ don’t talk about because he doesn’t do it, “team play” is what this guy is interested in. This after following his posts for years.

YOU CAN’T MAKE THIS SHIT UP

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If Dan and others want to remain in obvious denial, what could I say. As long as I could post and bring forward the obvious for all to see, I will.

This guy Bob falls out of the sky and starts posting conversations here thanking Moses for his writings, advice, and style of play which just so happen to be the complete opposite of what KJ believes. He actually asked where he could read more about Mosses play, this after following him for years.

Suddenly, he admits to also stalking KJ for years and loves him the same and got a lot out of KJ’s postings. The one topic KJ don’t talk about because he doesn’t do it, “team play” is what this guy is interested in. This after following his posts for years.

YOU CAN’T MAKE THIS SHIT UP

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Hey blackhole, you didn’t do a bad job summarizing things up in your own demented way. If you read your own posts (and do some thinking), you’ll see why I came out of my hole and went from lurker to asking questions. I had learned all I could through lurking and wanted more presise information. I was truly surprised Moses revealed so much information on what he did. Btw, other posters besides me liked what Moses posted on his system.

Like you said, KJ has not posted much on team play. Since I like his take on things, even though I don’t agree with it all the time. I wanted to know his thoughts on team play. I’m sure he’s had a lot of opportunity to play on teams since he’s been in Vegas, and it looks like he’s decided to stay a lone wolf. Since I’ve had some people recently ask me to join their team, I wanted to know his views on team play. I welcome any other opinions on this topic.

In fact, I probably should have opened a new thread called “Team Play”. I haven’t opened up a new thread on this forum yet so it’s my next step here. Hope that doesn’t throw you off kilter and into one of your rants. It’s hard to know what’ll get you riled up. You must have had a hard life. Sorry to hear that.

Hey blackhole, here’s something else to think about. The primary reason I registered to post on this site is to ask Moses a question about his system. He had just mentioned it again in one of the threads so I thought this would be a good opportunity to ask him to elaborate on it. I’ve thought about registering to post here in the past but never got around to it.

So the catalysis to get me motivated to register and post here was wanting to know more about Moses’s system.

You know it does take some effort to get registered to post here. Dan makes it easy, but you do have to go through some steps. Now that I’m registered here, it makes it easy to post. So I’m now entering into some threads I probably wouldn’t have in the past. My point is that I probably wouldn’t have registered on this site to ask KJ a question, but since I’m now registered it’s easy to do so, so why not?

See how all of this is starting to make sense...and there is not this underlining conspiracy you’re trying to concoct. I’ve never met Moses or KJ. I’m just asking them some questions. It’s there call if they want to answer them. And it’s your call if you want to make more out of these questions then what I meant by them.

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A bit of a tangent, but how does your record keeping and actual cash/chips balance? As in, do they balance, or do you sometimes (frequently?) have an over or under the amount of cash/chips than your records dictate? Not accusing you of anything, btw. Just wondering because somewhat often my cash and records don’t balance — it’s not ever by much, and usually because I forgot to record a tip, a cash expense, or something small like that. Plus, dealing with other people (receiving and transferring money is probably the biggest factor to non-balancing records).

I just can’t imagine doing that with chips, that would be a total nightmare. Unless you specifically go to a casino with, say, exactly $500 or $1,000 in chips (plus whatever cash), making it easier to balance. But keeping track of 50c or 25c pieces? Oof. Not for me! I just generally try to have the same amount in my wallet starting off a day, which makes it easier to balance at the end of a session or play.

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I start each day with sort of a daily bankroll in cash and chips from the casinos I plan to visit that day. I note that number in the memo section on my phone. After each session, I not win/loss, EV and many a brief note if anything usual occurred (heat-wise). When I get home I add it all up and yes, occasionally, not often though there is some discrepancy. Usually $50, $100, something fairly small. The number I record and go with is the cash/chips I actually have. That might mean I adjust the numbers that I recorded.

Personal money is kept separate, so that doesn't effect things at all.

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Since KJ joined this site we are endlessly being subject to re-runs of his past problems with Qfuck, Shank, and whoever else from other forums. Just like this thread about win/loss, it only took a couple of posts before we got to the saga again.No matter where you go on this site, you’ll eventually be forced to read the same nonsense over and over again.

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Boy you are really an idiot Blackhole. "forced to read"? Who is holding a gun to your head?

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I see you quoted several posts from other forums who at one time at least loved you. Were these forum AP click members? Why not pull some negative posts? I’m sure there are plenty.

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Yeah, there are some negative comments. Seriously not many though. If it gives you a tingle to read some negative comments, go back and do it. You know where the thread is.

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Does the math also say from Jan. 1 to Dec.31 the gambling math will always work itself out?

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For most players, No, a year, calendar year or any way you what yo break it up does not equate to "the long-term" where the math takes over and begins to "harness" short-term variance. But for me, a grinder type player who plays a lot, 70-100 thousand rounds a year, it is pretty close. I had that one year, far below expectation $27,000 vs EV of around $85,000, but most others are pretty close.

I would prefer to use an even larger sample size and segment of time, maybe 2 years as I think that would further smooth things out, BUT I don't get to make that choice. The Federal government, wants it done a certain way for tax purposes.

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I’m polling for KJ’s banning from here just on the grounds from the amount of times he did and still is posting about how great it was at WOV until the devils Shank, and Qfuck teamed up and 86’d him from both places.

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Idiot (again). Most of my posts and comments about WoV are in a thread entitled The WoV thread! Completely appropriate. Again, what it boils down to is you have such a hard-on for me, you can't help read every word I post and then need to comment. If I am so offensive to you, use the block feature, jackass.

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Like you said, KJ has not posted much on team play. Since I like his take on things, even though I don’t agree with it all the time. I wanted to know his thoughts on team play. I’m sure he’s had a lot of opportunity to play on teams since he’s been in Vegas, and it looks like he’s decided to stay a lone wolf.

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I tend to share my experiences and most of that was was solo play. Only the last two years, 2017, 2018 was I really involved in a small two man team. (more on that in a sec).

I have been asked to join several teams in my 15 years career, including a couple pretty, big known successful teams. Only one time did I briefly consider joining a very top end team. It might have been good at that time. :confused:

A couple things to be weary of concerning team play. 1) is cheating and being cheated. This issue seems to occur to most teams at some point. 2.) and a very big issue for anyone that has any kind of real longevity plans is that team blackjack play can and often does really shorten your career. It exposes you. It can link you to other known advantage players. Some players running teams actually can't play much any more, so they recruit players and burn out their face an identity and then move on to recruit new players, leaving the player who burned his face/identity to do what?

So I always said if I got involved with team play it would be a very small team (partnership) with players that I knew personally and really trusted. Close friends or family members. My late partner, professional and personal, and I did a bit of blackjack team play, when we were out of town mostly. My little version of the call in approach. But I did it very out in the open, playing the role of father and son. I can talk about it now that he is gone. He would sit down and play, signaling me when count got strong, I would wonder over and say something about "let's go eat", he would respond "after this shoe". At that point I would say something like "well then at least bet some real money" and encourage him to bet big. And he would bet much larger. I'd say things like "you know you can't take it with you". Sometimes even floorperson or dealer would play along if I did it right, also encouraging him to bet more. Imagine that, sometimes the pit person was encouraging him to bet bigger on very positive counts. :cool: Yep I am pretty proud of that little variation.

So anyway, that was just an occasional thing, mostly out of town. My partner, had some health issues and couldn't sit comfortably a blackjack table for very long. (oddly sitting at a machine didn't bother him as much).

But two years ago, my younger brother and I teamed up. I had taught my brother what I do, he played a year solo at low stakes and in 2017, we teamed up playing higher stakes, my stakes. It worked well for those two years and I think we both benefited. Me because team play smooths out the ride, the variance, him because I was there to look after him and help him along the way. Unfortunately going into 2019, he decided he wanted to go back to the "lone wolf" route. I don't think it was the best decision on his part, but I respect it. And we share a condo, so I am still around to look after him, so to speak.

It really takes a few years, to experience all the different things. Backoffs, different heat, negative swings, go through a couple 3, 4, 5 months periods of losing. All the things I have tried to share along my way. So any newer player that has access to a more experienced player that has gone through these things, is better off.

Oh and by the way, I have refrained from talking too much about my brother and our team play on purpose. It is one thing for me to decide I want to share some of my experiences. But completely inappropriate for me to share too much concerning a partner that is still actively playing. That simply is not my choice to make. So I have mentioned little about our partnership and when I did something very general.

And now...off to work. Being Friday, I wanted to get out earlier today. Already behind "schedule". :(

Blackhole: Qfuck? OMG. You're friggin hilarious sometimes. Darn near squirted coffee through my nose. LMAO. You made my day.

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So the catalysis to get me motivated to register and post here was wanting to know more about Moses’s system.
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Welcome aboard Bob. Don't be too hard on Blackhole. He just a good ole boy shit kicker that somehow got misplaced on the east coast. I'd be pissed too. lol He belongs in the Wild Wild West.

There is mucho wisdom in that grumpy ole fart. I'm kidding BH.

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Oh and by the way, I have refrained from talking too much about my brother and our team play on purpose. It is one thing for me to decide I want to share some of my experiences. But completely inappropriate for me to share too much concerning a partner that is still actively playing. That simply is not my choice to make. So I have mentioned little about our partnership and when I did something very general.(

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HE Ain't Heavy. He's my Brother.

My months in the red.
2019 Didn't play yet
2018 Never in the red
2017 Never in the red
2016 Went in red in Feb, April and July then in the black for rest of year.
2015 Went in red in Jan, Feb, March, April then in the black for rest of year.
2014 Went in red in May then in the black for rest of year.
2013 In red until March then in black for rest of year.

Kewlj wrote: "not often though there is some discrepancy. Usually $50, $100, something fairly small."

As they say... fifty dollars here, a hundred there, and pretty soon you're talking real money.

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Kewlj wrote: "not often though there is some discrepancy. Usually $50, $100, something fairly small."

As they say... fifty dollars here, a hundred there, and pretty soon you're talking real money.

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Must you find fault with everything I post Alan? Isn't it bad enough there are people like Blackhole that argue everything I say, just because I say it. :confused:

Look what do you want me to say. I play 6-10 sessions a day. I record what I won, or think I won, pocket the chips, or cash if I am cashing out. At the end of the day, if the amount I have doesn't jive with what I started with +/- what I have recorded, then I made a mistake recording. It's not like I magically lost of found extra money. The mistake is in recording results, which I am sometimes doing on the fly. So I adjust results to what I actually have.

It is not as hard as you might think. Maybe I sit down at the table with $200 chips in hand. I start losing and pull out another $100. Then I win a bit and at the end of the second shoe, I get up with $650 in chips. I mistakenly mark down a $450 win, forgetting that I pulled that extra $100 out and the win was only $350. So when I get home I have wins of $450, $900, $1600 and losses of $400, $800 and $1000, thinking I have won $750 for the day. I count up the money and I only have $650 more than I started with. So I record my win for the day at $650, which it actually is.

How else would you suggest I do it Alan? :confused: And by the way, like I said, this does not occur very often. But if we are talking thousands of sessions a year, yeah, I record a few results wrong. But they money tells the truth.

Oh lighten up kewlj.

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Kewlj wrote: "not often though there is some discrepancy. Usually $50, $100, something fairly small."

As they say... fifty dollars here, a hundred there, and pretty soon you're talking real money.

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How do you do it Allen? Small bills in my right pocket, large in my left. I get gas or breakfast at the beginning of the day or gas and groceries at the end of the day. My casino play is in between, so the difference is my daily profit/loss which I've forgotten by the time I go to sleep. Yes, I know how many sessions were won, lost, tied, and interrupted. But I'm not obsessed with it.