Loose Change: part 2

So a lot of folks here build up a mountain of loose change accumulated from their daily AP hustles just like I do. In an earlier post I had mentioned one fee-free way of getting rid of it was to go to Walmart early in the morning (or whenever it is pretty empty) and just put your mountain of change into one of the automatic kiosks to buy your groceries (or Safeway,Raley's etc.). Another tack is to note that Coinstar machines will not charge you a fee if you buy a gift card. So what I do is just use the change to purchase an Amazon gift card fee-free from a Coinstar kiosk. Once you have your gift card (in the form of a receipt with a gift card number on it), you can purchase whatever the Amazon.com site has. I like Panda Express, so I just by Panda Express gift cards with my Amazon gift cards (unless I need to go shopping).

Cheers, tp.

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Originally Posted by tableplay

So a lot of folks here build up a mountain of loose change accumulated from their daily AP hustles just like I do. In an earlier post I had mentioned one fee-free way of getting rid of it was to go to Walmart early in the morning (or whenever it is pretty empty) and just put your mountain of change into one of the automatic kiosks to buy your groceries (or Safeway,Raley's etc.). Another tack is to note that Coinstar machines will not charge you a fee if you buy a gift card. So what I do is just use the change to purchase an Amazon gift card fee-free from a Coinstar kiosk. Once you have your gift card (in the form of a receipt with a gift card number on it), you can purchase whatever the Amazon.com site has. I like Panda Express, so I just by Panda Express gift cards with my Amazon gift cards (unless I need to go shopping).

Cheers, tp.

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Not bad advice for most. I made a resolution on Jan.1st to toss anything less than quarters I get for change anywhere. What should I be doing?

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

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Originally Posted by tableplay

So a lot of folks here build up a mountain of loose change accumulated from their daily AP hustles just like I do. In an earlier post I had mentioned one fee-free way of getting rid of it was to go to Walmart early in the morning (or whenever it is pretty empty) and just put your mountain of change into one of the automatic kiosks to buy your groceries (or Safeway,Raley's etc.). Another tack is to note that Coinstar machines will not charge you a fee if you buy a gift card. So what I do is just use the change to purchase an Amazon gift card fee-free from a Coinstar kiosk. Once you have your gift card (in the form of a receipt with a gift card number on it), you can purchase whatever the Amazon.com site has. I like Panda Express, so I just by Panda Express gift cards with my Amazon gift cards (unless I need to go shopping).

Cheers, tp.

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Not bad advice for most. I made a resolution on Jan.1st to toss anything less than quarters I get for change anywhere. What should I be doing?

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Paying for everything with a debit card?

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

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Originally Posted by tableplay

So a lot of folks here build up a mountain of loose change accumulated from their daily AP hustles just like I do. In an earlier post I had mentioned one fee-free way of getting rid of it was to go to Walmart early in the morning (or whenever it is pretty empty) and just put your mountain of change into one of the automatic kiosks to buy your groceries (or Safeway,Raley's etc.). Another tack is to note that Coinstar machines will not charge you a fee if you buy a gift card. So what I do is just use the change to purchase an Amazon gift card fee-free from a Coinstar kiosk. Once you have your gift card (in the form of a receipt with a gift card number on it), you can purchase whatever the Amazon.com site has. I like Panda Express, so I just by Panda Express gift cards with my Amazon gift cards (unless I need to go shopping).

Cheers, tp.

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Not bad advice for most. I made a resolution on Jan.1st to toss anything less than quarters I get for change anywhere. What should I be doing?

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Undoing your New Year's resolution and then implementing the suggestion in the 1st post of the thread.

A guy said just with his loose change he was able to buy a flat screen TV! O O :D

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Originally Posted by tableplay

So a lot of folks here build up a mountain of loose change accumulated from their daily AP hustles just like I do. In an earlier post I had mentioned one fee-free way of getting rid of it was to go to Walmart early in the morning (or whenever it is pretty empty) and just put your mountain of change into one of the automatic kiosks to buy your groceries (or Safeway,Raley's etc.). Another tack is to note that Coinstar machines will not charge you a fee if you buy a gift card. So what I do is just use the change to purchase an Amazon gift card fee-free from a Coinstar kiosk. Once you have your gift card (in the form of a receipt with a gift card number on it), you can purchase whatever the Amazon.com site has. I like Panda Express, so I just by Panda Express gift cards with my Amazon gift cards (unless I need to go shopping).

Cheers, tp.

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I discovered by accident that occasionally certain small locals casinos in out of the way areas will often cash in coins for free to entice people to come there and I assume to make use of their old coin sorters they still have from before the TITO days.

Now, if I could only remember to bring my coins when I hit these places.......

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Originally Posted by DGenBen

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Originally Posted by tableplay

So a lot of folks here build up a mountain of loose change accumulated from their daily AP hustles just like I do. In an earlier post I had mentioned one fee-free way of getting rid of it was to go to Walmart early in the morning (or whenever it is pretty empty) and just put your mountain of change into one of the automatic kiosks to buy your groceries (or Safeway,Raley's etc.). Another tack is to note that Coinstar machines will not charge you a fee if you buy a gift card. So what I do is just use the change to purchase an Amazon gift card fee-free from a Coinstar kiosk. Once you have your gift card (in the form of a receipt with a gift card number on it), you can purchase whatever the Amazon.com site has. I like Panda Express, so I just by Panda Express gift cards with my Amazon gift cards (unless I need to go shopping).

Cheers, tp.

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I discovered by accident that occasionally certain small locals casinos in out of the way areas will often cash in coins for free to entice people to come there and I assume to make use of their old coin sorters they still have from before the TITO days.

Now, if I could only remember to bring my coins when I hit these places.......

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Yes that's right Ben. I think the Atlantis (Reno) will still give you paper for your coins as long as you have your players club handy. Peppermill (Reno) may still do it also and I don't think they ask for your players club card. So these are large properties that probably still do it, along with the smaller properties you mentioned.

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Originally Posted by tableplay

So a lot of folks here build up a mountain of loose change accumulated from their daily AP hustles

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Is there any reason to leave a casino with more than 99 cents in loose change?

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Originally Posted by coach belly

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Originally Posted by tableplay

So a lot of folks here build up a mountain of loose change accumulated from their daily AP hustles

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Is there any reason to leave a casino with more than 99 cents in loose change?

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Yes, if you have to do voucher chops with partners for example. You need to make change for them or they for you - you'll need to have change around for this. Also I don't like carrying around large vouchers. What if a big voucher gets damaged. What if you get 86ed with a large voucher ? If you are at a small casino, the last thing you want to happen at the kiosk is a partial redemption with the message "please see the cashier" where a new smaller voucher is spit out (for redemption at the cage) along with some cash, or the voucher is too big and the kiosk informs you that you must cash out the whole thing at the cage. I learned this the hard way on the old "Xpress" kiosks for a measly ~$400 voucher at a small shop a few years back (no problem cashing it out in that instance - but it draws unnecessary attention).
Cash your vouchers in and do it frequently. Cash is king.

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Originally Posted by coach belly

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Originally Posted by tableplay

So a lot of folks here build up a mountain of loose change accumulated from their daily AP hustles

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Is there any reason to leave a casino with more than 99 cents in loose change?

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Yes, if you have to do voucher chops with partners for example. You need to make change for them or they for you - you'll need to have change around for this.

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What's the most amount of change you'll need for a voucher chop?

Shouldn't you just save up your change and then deposit in the bank so you can make interest on it?

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Originally Posted by coach belly

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Originally Posted by tableplay

Yes, if you have to do voucher chops with partners for example. You need to make change for them or they for you - you'll need to have change around for this.

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What's the most amount of change you'll need for a voucher chop?

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per chop, 50 cents with pennies and nickles around. You'll be on the receiving end of chops also so that change accumulates. Several of them possibly. Once you chop, you may chop another voucher and another depending on if there are a lot of plays - so you'll want to have change around for all of these. Each chop generates change. Once the chopped voucher is exchanged for currency, the change from the kiosk must be split up. Then, whatever can't be split (unless it's an even amount of change), from the machine's change must be made whole by one of the partners using their change. So then there is change left over to each person. Then on a new split play, the same thing happens if it is not an even amount. The kiosk generates change for each person on each cash out. So if there are several splits then you are going to accumulate change that day each time the kiosk generates change for each partner. People like to get their splits after the play usually. I certainly do. There's no way to know in advance if you are only going to chop one voucher (i.e. that there is just one play). And of course, especially if you're doing plays on your own, you'll need to cash out vouchers several times with each generating change, unless you like keeping large vouchers - which I don't as already mentioned.

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Shouldn't you just save up your change and then deposit in the bank so you can make interest on it?

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You could. Personally I don't like rolling coins into rolls as most banks don't like large amounts of loose change and they request that you roll them into rolls. I like dumping it raw into the coin chute of a Walmart Kiosk (all of us have to shop so this is a necessary expense) or the Coinstar machine (I like to eat out so I use it to generate Panda Express gift cards). To each his own.

I wound up with a lot of change because of my penchant for hitting 4, 5 or 6 casinos a day and cashing tickets from each one. I hate having my pant pockets weighted down with coins. So the coins went into one of the cup holders in the car. I dumped a lot of it at the scan & go's at Walmart. But I also used the change at the drive thru's of the fast food joints. And some of it went to do laundry.

Note: When advantage playing a slot you always cash a ticket out. You never play down to zero credits and take a walk. This is because, win, lose, or draw, you quit the game when it's back in negative mode. That means hitting the cashout button.

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Originally Posted by coach belly

What's the most amount of change you'll need for a voucher chop?

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per chop, 50 cents with pennies and nickles around....whatever can't be split (unless it's an even amount of change), from the machine's change must be made whole by one of the partners using their change.

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About machine change that can't be split...do you mean something like 3 quarters?

Typically, how many partners participate in the chop?

In case nobody realizes this, they do make home coin-roller machines They don't separate coins but there may be some newer ones that do. What they're good for is filling the rolls so you can bring them to the bank. Just get a stamp with your acct. no. on it and no more need to bring loose change to casinos just to lose it.

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

Note: When advantage playing a slot you always cash a ticket out.

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Do you mean print the ticket out of the machine, or cash it out at the kiosk?

I recall a story (I think one of yours) where unaffiliated hustlers were interested in how big each others tickets got during a session, as they were moving from machine to machine.

It seemed that cash was used for the initial buy-in at the first machine, then a ticket after that for the rest of the plays, instead of constantly cashing out at the kiosk and using cash at the next machine.

I also recall photos where the cash balance indicated that the buy-in at the machine in the photo was obviously a ticket printed from another machine that was previously played.

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

In case nobody realizes this, they do make home coin-roller machines

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I haven't been to every bank, but every bank I've been to lately has a "coinstar" type of machine, where you can dump a pocketful or bucketful of loose change into a hopper, and it will count it for you and generate a voucher, which you redeem by depositing the voucher into an account at that bank.

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Originally Posted by coach belly

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

In case nobody realizes this, they do make home coin-roller machines

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I haven't been to every bank, but every bank I've been to lately has a "coinstar" type of machine, where you can dump a pocketful or bucketful of loose change into a hopper, and it will count it for you and generate a voucher, which you redeem by depositing the voucher into an account at that bank.

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That's an even better option. Haven't seen those yet.

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

That's an even better option. Haven't seen those yet.

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The banks like to hide them, because although they're a service to the clients, they can be a pain in the ass for the branch staff, as the machines occasionally clog or malfunction.

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Originally Posted by coach belly

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

Note: When advantage playing a slot you always cash a ticket out.

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Do you mean print the ticket out of the machine, or cash it out at the kiosk?

I recall a story (I think one of yours) where unaffiliated hustlers were interested in how big each others tickets got during a session, as they were moving from machine to machine.

It seemed that cash was used for the initial buy-in at the first machine, then a ticket after that for the rest of the plays, instead of constantly cashing out at the kiosk and using cash at the next machine.

I also recall photos where the cash balance indicated that the buy-in at the machine in the photo was obviously a ticket printed from another machine that was previously played.

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Print the ticket. With TITO you can just stick the ticket in another machine you find a play on. It's when you finally go to a kiosk that you wind up with change in your pocket.

There are some Indian casinos that when you cash your ticket at a kiosk it spits out the bills and then prints a ticket for the change. You can either stick the ticket back in a machine or take it to the cashier in the back of the casino to cash it. Its a pain in the ass to walk to the back of the casino to the cage to cash out a 27 cent ticket. A lot of people just leave those tickets on the top of the kiosk.

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Originally Posted by coach belly

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What's the most amount of change you'll need for a voucher chop?

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Originally Posted by tableplay

per chop, 50 cents with pennies and nickles around....whatever can't be split (unless it's an even amount of change), from the machine's change must be made whole by one of the partners using their change.

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About machine change that can't be split...do you mean something like 3 quarters?

Typically, how many partners participate in the chop?

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Yes, that's right Coach - 3 quarters is an example of this. As far as chops - it is myself and one other person on almost all occasions.

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

Note: When advantage playing a slot you always cash a ticket out.

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Originally Posted by coach belly

Do you mean print the ticket out of the machine, or cash it out at the kiosk?

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

Print the ticket. With TITO you can just stick the ticket in another machine you find a play on. It's when you finally go to a kiosk that you wind up with change in your pocket.

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OK, I understand.

With this method, when you have exhausted the plays you'll only have one ticket to cash at the kiosk, and you'll never leave the casino with more than 99 cents in change from your play...unless you also hit a hand pay(s) that included change.

Sometimes I see players sticking multiple slot tickets in the kiosk all at once...they hold up the line. The kiosk adds them all up and spits out the cash and change, but it can't ever be more than 99 cents in change...right?

They must be printing a TITO from one machine when they are done playing it, then buying in for cash at the next machine, instead of using the ticket from the previous machine to continue playing.

This sounds like what tableplay is doing...except he is cashing individual tickets at the kiosk one at at time in several separate trips to the kiosk, so he ultimately ends up with more change than is necessary.

Am I following this correctly?

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Originally Posted by coach belly

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

Print the ticket. With TITO you can just stick the ticket in another machine you find a play on. It's when you finally go to a kiosk that you wind up with change in your pocket.

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OK, I understand.

With this method, when you have exhausted the plays you'll only have one ticket to cash at the kiosk, and you'll never leave the casino with more than 99 cents in change from your play...unless you also hit a hand pay(s) that included change.

Sometimes I see players sticking multiple slot tickets in the kiosk all at once...they hold up the line. The kiosk adds them all up and spits out the cash and change, but it can't ever be more than 99 cents in change...right?

They must be printing a TITO from one machine when they are done playing it, then buying in for cash at the next machine, instead of using the ticket from the previous machine to continue playing.

This sounds like what tableplay is doing...except he is cashing individual tickets at the kiosk one at at time in several separate trips to the kiosk, so he ultimately ends up with more change than is necessary.

Am I following this correctly?

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Yes you are following it correctly. I do not like carrying around large vouchers when playing by myself and, if playing with a partner, I like to get cashed out after a play is done. I don't want to deal with voucher damage on a large voucher or with losing a large voucher or having the kiosk reject the voucher because it is too large and then getting forced to cash it at the cage. We are all different and for me having extra change to deal with later is not a big deal for me.

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Originally Posted by tableplay

We are all different and for me having extra change to deal with later is not a big deal for me.

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I'm struggling with the scenario where 2 grown men cash a ticket at a kiosk for, say $100.75. They stand there and split the cash $50-$50, then split the quarters 2-1, and then one guy gives the other 12 cents...or 13 cents?

Is that really how it goes down, over and over again? You gotta be kidding.

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Originally Posted by coach belly

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Originally Posted by tableplay

We are all different and for me having extra change to deal with later is not a big deal for me.

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I'm struggling with the scenario where 2 grown men cash a ticket at a kiosk for, say $100.75. They stand there and split the cash $50-$50, then split the quarters 2-1, and then one guy gives the other 12 cents...or 13 cents?

Is that really how it goes down, over and over again? You gotta be kidding.

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Yes that is how it goes down (except that we don't stand in front of the kiosk machine to perform the split - we go to a machine with a flat surface like a slant-top to make the division). So then this results in a situation that you don't like and that is how it will be.

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Yes that is how it goes down

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And you always cash the vouchers immediately and individually, never combine them, or use a ticket from a previous machine on the next machine? Always buy in at a machine for cash?

What's the largest voucher that you're comfortable carrying around?

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Originally Posted by tableplay

Yes that is how it goes down

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And you always cash the vouchers immediately and individually, never combine them, or use a ticket from a previous machine on the next machine? Always buy in at a machine for cash?

What's the largest voucher that you're comfortable carrying around?

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No the vouchers are not always immediately cashed out. Sometimes vouchers are combined and sometimes vouchers are used on the next machine. Machines are not always bought in for cash. I'll take the fifth on the largest voucher I feel comfortable carrying around.

If I wind up with a large voucher I cash it. It's a precaution because of accidentally leaving a ticket in a machine. I've done it before.