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Bob21
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DGenBen
You never answered my question directly how could you tell I’m a liberal from a 2 sentence post?
Look I get it, To you liberal is an insult and you just like throwing it around every chance you get with no real idea of whether the person is actually a liberal or not and probably not even understanding what its supposed to be since as you said its very broad, just as the Republican party has its moderate wing, conservative wing, and far right.
If the Democratic party were outlawed tomorrow and every Democrat was killed, then the liberals in the country would be the moderate wing of the Republican party. In other words, the word liberal as you frequently use it here is meaningless which is my whole point. If you take the most conservative Democrats and compare them to the most moderate Republicans, they are going to be very similar.
All we do is get bombarded by the news all day with these labels for each side and no real ideas or information being exchanged, just name calling back and forth and it gets old after awhile in the news and on here. If you really have valuable, meaningful ideas, put them out there!
For the record, I think that what you and others really mean when you say Liberal, is the far left wing of the Democrat party. The AOCs and the crazies who make us all choke on political correctness, welfare state, 89 different gender types etc, etc. I am all for being against that kind of stuff just as I’m sure (or at least assume) you are against the extreme far right with the Nazi’s and KKK.
When you post on here you like to complain about how liberals twist words, change the subject, make things up, mischaracterize the other side, attack people, and then you do the exact same thing. You like to paraphrase what people say and change the meaning while at the same time nitpicking other people that paraphrased you on a technicality that made no difference in the meaning. You are so obsessed with talking about liberals that I wonder if deep down you are a deeply repressed closet liberal?
Actually I’m pretty sure what your deal is, is that you just enjoy being argumentative for the sake of it. Hey if that’s what gives you your Jollies more power to you! Not a lot to do right now anyway so maybe you have the right idea.
Look, if we want to be honest here, you could care less what I consider a “liberal”. You made your post to attack my character. What’s your motive? Who knows? Why did you say I think I’m smarter than Einstein and bring up my advice to my niece to stay away from trying to find a mathematical formula to unify the fields? This has nothing to do with any point you were trying to make. It was just to attack me.
And if you think my advice is wrong, spend some time studying Einstein’s last years. Just go on Wikipedia and look Einstein up and then go down to “Unified field theory”. Here are two sentences: “Although he continued to be lauded for his work, Einstein became increasingly isolated in his research, and his efforts were ultimately unsuccessful. In his pursuit of a unification of the fundamental forces, Einstein ignored some mainstream developments in physics, most notably the strong and weak nuclear forces...”
Bottom line is Einstein was a genius, but he also made a lot of mistakes, especially in his later years. Doesn’t it make sense that we should learn from them and not follow the same path? There are many physicist that would give my niece the same advice I gave her. Don’t waste your time trying to find a mathematical formula to unify the fields.
And from a creationist perspective, I understand it might not even be possible. The belief that these fields can be unified comes from a belief (or you could call it faith) in the Big Bang. If the Big Bang didn’t happen (and I don’t believe it did), there is no reason to waist time trying to unify these fields.
If you want to make fun of me for being a creationist and believing in science and God that’s your call. I deal with it all the time when I give lectures on college campuses on creation. So I understand where your kind comes from. You mock people who think differently than you. You have no evidence for what you believe, but you still believe it.
As far as your description of the far right and far left, for the most part, I agree with you. I have actually said on this forum that voting for George Bush Senior was not that different than voting for a liberal Democrat. Today both parties would be considered very liberal compared to how they would’ve been back in the 1930s.
Also I’ve said, we’re slowly sliding to the left ever since FDR and will continue to slide that direction until we get to a more socialist state. There’s nothing much people can do, so we’ve got to deal with it.
So you asked me how I could tell you were a liberal? Easy, you attacked my character, and you made that rant about liberals raping kittens. This is usually a hallmark of what liberals do. So there you got your answer. Like you said there’s not much to do with the lockdown. I didn’t spend much time on forums until this lockdown. I will give you credit, you don’t get into name calling, which is impressive.
So first of all, I don’t have any problem with you, I know that peoples internet personas are not the same as the person in real life. If I ever run into you into a casino, I’ll buy you a beer.
As far as attacking your character, I just interacted with you the same way you interact with everyone else.
I honestly wanted to know what your definition of a liberal is and now it’s because I attacked your character. Would it be impossible to attack your character if I was conservative?
Thats really my whole point, liberal should refer to what your actual political positions are. If you noticed in all the posts I primarily pointed out the conservative positions I agree with and liberal positions I disagreed with,
So if you generally agree with conversation positions and generally disagree with liberal positions, how does that make you a liberal? I don’t like labeling people and demonizing people when you have no idea what their positions actually are.
We probably actually agree on a lot more things than you would imagine. I agree that Einstein wasted time looking for the unified theory because he just couldn’t believe the randomness in quantum mechanics. I also agree with your thought that string is nonsense because you have to add all the extra dimensions for it to work.
Thats my point though, if you knew that about me first you might say something like wow, you sure know more than those dumb liberals, even though it has nothing to do with politics.
I am equal opportunity, I don’t like listening to people bash liberals all day without providing substance or even knowing if the person is actually a liberal, the same way I don’t like people that bash Trump and the Republicans all day without looking at the positive things.
I do on the another hand like hearing substance, I.E. I dont like liberals because they support X policies which lead to Y.
I like Trump because he promised to do X which I support and he did X.
I know its a lot to ask to because this is the internet after all, but I just think you can actually learn from those types of discussions. When I was young I considered myself very liberal, after years of listening to talk radio, Fox news, and having substantive discussions with conservative & liberal friends I moved much more to the right and consider myself moderate now and can see where my thinking was flawed on certain issues in the past. This is why I like discussing V. insulting.
