KJ can't help himself. He said he would leave here when he got back on WoV. That sure didn't happen. KJ will be trolling here forever.
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KJ can't help himself. He said he would leave here when he got back on WoV. That sure didn't happen. KJ will be trolling here forever.
KJ needs this forum and won’t ever leave. It’s a place where he thinks he is better than the owner or any of us. It’s also where his true vile personality can come out since he can’t do it at the place he may or may not have paid to be allowed to post at.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
You know the place where he wants to help people new to Vegas. NO, I’m not talking about the bus station downtown.
Ironic coming from self proclaimed king troll.
That is Medicaid Mickey, the drunk, welfare, hobo APQuote:
Originally Posted by mcap
If someone comes in and posts about something, anything about which he has personal knowledge, that’s fine in my book. Mostly J sticks to what he knows.
Then you have someone like Regnis who comes in and claims to have WRITTEN the regulations on CTRs and doesn’t even understand them.
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Originally Posted by MDawg
Or Axel, who comes in with some post like this about SEO
demonstrating complete lack of knowledge on the subject,Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
(Incidentally Axel was also wrong just like Regnis about CTRs here:
when he thought that some guy who won a million at the tables would have a physical piece of paper, a CTR, to show someone, or would have had to get one (which was absurd in that no big table winner would take a seven figure win in cash – would take a check or bank wire and there would be no CTR, which anyone, cash or no cash no player is HANDED a CTR to “show Axel.”))Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
POINT BEING that some people here post about things they know little or nothing about. Of course the extreme example is Axel with TENS of THOUSANDS of posts merely commenting on what others have done, mostly sticking his foot in his mouth repeatedly, but there are others like him too.
At least J seems to know what he knows, and what he doesn’t know.
I have also been guilty of trying to sound smart and ended up looking like a huge Fool and a Troll. A Newbie asked about a Progressive Question on WOV on a sign that read something lije,"Progressive must hit by $15,000. The Progressive was at $14,600. He wanted to know how much coin in he would have to play to get the $15,000. I trying to earn brownie points and praise said something like,"It looks like you only need to play $400 coin in in order to get the $15,000, but it's not that easy. You'd have to play like $2,000 coin in to get the $15,000 that only looks like it is $400 coin in away. It's really not that good of a deal." The responses really dragged me through the mud saying stuff like,"That's a really stupid answer you gave. $2,000 coin in to win $15,000 would be beyond ideal. You'd actually play more like $20,000 coin in before that $15,000 hits." Even the Newbie pointed out he thought my answer was ridiculously optimistic but didn't want to say anything even remotely bad to older Longtime Members when he was a Newbie. Understandable. I was given a two week Suspension for giving Newbies bad Gambling advice. So, not only did I NOT get the praise and brownie points I was expecting, I got ridiculed and then Suspended for two weeks!Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawgIf someone comes in and posts about something, anything about which he has personal knowledge, that’s fine in my book. Mostly J sticks to what he knows.
Then you have someone like Regnis who comes in and claims to have WRITTEN the regulations on CTRs and doesn’t even understand them.
Or Axel, who comes in with some post like this about SEO
demonstrating complete lack of knowledge on the subject,
(Incidentally Axel was also wrong just like Regnis about CTRs here:
when he thought that some guy who won a million at the tables would have a physical piece of paper, a CTR, to show someone, or would have had to get one (which was absurd in that no big table winner would take a seven figure win in cash – would take a check or bank wire and there would be no CTR, which anyone, cash or no cash no player is HANDED a CTR to “show Axel.”))Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
POINT BEING that some people here post about things they know little or nothing about. Of course the extreme example is Axel with TENS of THOUSANDS of posts merely commenting on what others have done, mostly sticking his foot in his mouth repeatedly, but there are others like him too.
At least J seems to know what he knows, and what he doesn’t know.
MDawg
They are plenty of people who “know their shit” when it comes to AP play. You may not agree with everything they post, but these are type people who always have an advantage when they make a play. They may not always win, but they will over time. It’s not up for debate for those that know what they do. There are others I’m missing because I don’t have 1st hand knowledge of their plays. And I’m adding Dark Oz because I understand what he does but have had no interactions with him, but I do believe him.
Mickey
Axel
Max Pen
Dark Oz
That is something you or I can’t say 100% of the time.
Well, what I meant, and I believe you are agreeing with me, is more along the lines of....
I just bought extra shares of AMZN before the FED announcement at 2140 and sold afterwards at 2146.
And then someone comes in and says NO WAY! Well, why, on what basis, does someone gainsay that? And invariably the comment comes from some guy who knows little or nothing about the stock market.
Or, I post claiming that I won $32K on that last trip in Vegas.
Someone who has never played high end table games or certainly Baccarat in his life, comes in and says, NO WAY!
Or, like the examples I gave above...Axel has never boosted the SEO of a site in his life, wouldn't know a backlink from any other URL, and then he posts some nonsense like that about how it is "easy" to "manipulate" Alexa rank with those "methods" (I use the term loosely) he describes. Or he asks for a CTR from a table game player (or from any player, as if it were a piece of paper handed out).
These sorts of things make ME anyway, realize that some of these guys are quick to comment on about anything, whether they know much (or anything) about it at all.
I try not to do that, immediately pounce on anything someone says especially if I am not an expert on the subject. As far as Rob's claim to have won all that money at some double up bug, and to own that $1.3M (or is it $1.5M :D) motor home, I gave it to him UNTIL people came in with hard evidence contradicting whatever it is that the guy was claiming. But some of these others, the first words out their mouths are "couldn't be" and Axel is the worst of that lot. Maybe he's been conned a lot in his life that makes him so skeptical, but he's wading in unknown (to him) waters and would appear wiser if he'd listen (and maybe research) more than he spoke (to the tune of TENS OF THOUSANDS of times that he does speak, without listening or researching).
BTW this poll
https://i.imgur.com/Cz3ziAe.png
is along the lines of, "When did you stop beating your wife?"
How did I get dragged into this again? I saw pictures of piles of cash that you said you won. Cash =CTR.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawgIf someone comes in and posts about something, anything about which he has personal knowledge, that’s fine in my book. Mostly J sticks to what he knows.
Then you have someone like Regnis who comes in and claims to have WRITTEN the regulations on CTRs and doesn’t even understand them.
Or Axel, who comes in with some post like this about SEO
demonstrating complete lack of knowledge on the subject,
(Incidentally Axel was also wrong just like Regnis about CTRs here:
when he thought that some guy who won a million at the tables would have a physical piece of paper, a CTR, to show someone, or would have had to get one (which was absurd in that no big table winner would take a seven figure win in cash – would take a check or bank wire and there would be no CTR, which anyone, cash or no cash no player is HANDED a CTR to “show Axel.”))Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
POINT BEING that some people here post about things they know little or nothing about. Of course the extreme example is Axel with TENS of THOUSANDS of posts merely commenting on what others have done, mostly sticking his foot in his mouth repeatedly, but there are others like him too.
At least J seems to know what he knows, and what he doesn’t know.
Now leave me out of any further discussion as I have pretty much "quarantined' myself from this forum.
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Originally Posted by The Boz
And I forgot to put Monet in the same group as Dark Oz. We haven’t always gotten along and I never had any dealings with him. But anyone who doesn’t think he doesn’t know his shit is crazy.
No argument on most of what you are saying. I only believe they give you shit because while what you claim is possible or even probably happened, the odds of it being the entirety are slim. Saying you never lose, on stocks or baccarat is hard to believe, but possible on a limited scale.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
Saying you have a winning system for Baccarat is unbelievable mathematically and most would think someone as successful and intelligent as you would understand that.
I believe that is why you get so much grief. When in the end for the most part you are dealing with successful and knowledgeable people in their specific field. It’s when we get into stuff we don’t know about and try to sound like we do is when the BS starts.
Okay - stocks, let's talk stocks. The stocks I trade, as I've mentioned are stocks like AMZN, GOOGL, CMG, TSLA, NFLX - the same stocks I also hold long term. I hold far more stocks than just five, but those are the ones I trade primarily, if not exclusively.
All day long I track a LOT of stocks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymfminbmgZY
which the above tracking screen represents just a small portion of what I track, but for the most part, as mentioned, I trade just the same five stocks. (I track so many stocks because (1) I own many of them long term, and (2) these others give me a feel for the market, and then also occasionally too if I see something interesting going on, I will jump on a trade with a different stock from the usual five.) These are stocks that tend to go up over time, and hit new all time highs regularly. As I have posted, I do get stuck occasionally, but when I do I just average in more shares and ride it out.
If you understand the market, and understand these stocks, it is easy to see how even if I were completely inept, I'd win every time with these stocks given my buying power and ability to ride out any trade.
The fact that I am able to win QUICKLY with my trades, is a testament to years of experience. But even if I knew nothing at all and just threw a dart at these stocks, still I'd win eventually.
Anyone who cannot see that, is most likely not IN the market, and shouldn't even be commenting.
If anything, I sell myself short on my trades, I'd probably do better just buying more and more shares of the same stocks I trade, and never selling. Which occasionally, like in the corrections we just had, I DO buy more shares to hold for good, but while I do not let go of what I have, I do trade additional shares of these long term winners almost daily.
Thanks for not including me in that list. Any schmuck that doesn't know how free play works on video roulette, clearly has no idea how to win money in a casino! :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
We have had next to no interactions on gambling and I’m not even sure what you do. I actually thought you were a hole carder, honestly. Tells you how little I’ve paid to your gambling skills.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbjbThanks for not including me in that list. Any schmuck that doesn't know how free play works on video roulette, clearly has no idea how to win money in a casino! :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
But I love your take on things on these forums. You are right 99%+ of the time. The same percentage of dying we had of Coronavirus!
Yeah, mainly table games stuff. I do indulge in the easy to pick off video poker/slot machine plays though. Just not as comprehensive as guys like Mickey. I don't have the patience to knock of plays like "Must hit bys" or chasing banking free games plays like BD.Quote:
Originally Posted by The BozWe have had next to no interactions on gambling and I’m not even sure what you do. I actually thought you were a hole carder, honestly. Tells you how little I’ve paid to your gambling skills.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbjbThanks for not including me in that list. Any schmuck that doesn't know how free play works on video roulette, clearly has no idea how to win money in a casino! :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
But I love your take on things on these forums. You are right 99%+ of the time. The same percentage of dying we had of Coronavirus!
MDawg is now posting the same drivel in this thread that he posts in his thread. Why is he posting it here? I'll tell you why. He's got no audience in his thread any more. I don't even click on that piece of shit thread and I'm sure others don't. So he's over here looking for attention. I got no time for him.
C'mon, KJocchio. Loosen up. Give us some tips on cheating the IRS, SS and Medicare. Enquiring minds want to know how you do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJThat is Medicaid Mickey, the drunk, welfare, hobo APQuote:
Originally Posted by mcap
Bottom line is not one of us has ever seen KJ back up one word he has ever posted on his gambling knowledge and income. Not one person.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmC'mon, KJocchio. Loosen up. Give us some tips on cheating the IRS, SS and Medicare. Enquiring minds want to know how you do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJThat is Medicaid Mickey, the drunk, welfare, hobo APQuote:
Originally Posted by mcap
I can’t say that about you, Axel, Max or others on here. I get his reasons for privacy, but it still comes down to him never proving anything. You and others could vouch for me being who I am if asked, KJ has nothing.
He could be a 70 YO guy in a basement somewhere who may or not have helped the homeless at the downtown shelter. And has fucked with all of us for years.
It's still all talk. I'm the only one who has posted any sort of backup.
Even so, I am not commenting one way or another on their "all talk" about what they claim they do - but when they try to comment on things they know little or nothing about, they look ridiculous.
Very strange Boz. You write "I understand his reasons for privacy", but then go on to make unfounded accusations because I don't meet any people. Obviously then you don't understand my need for privacy.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
I am almost strictly a blackjack card counter AP. That is very different from most AP's on these forums that machine play makes up a good deal of their play. Strictly blackjack AP's of which there aren't many of us left, have been fighting the "war" with the casino industry for decades, the cat and mouse game, and all the infiltrating forums, and players switching sides that goes along with it. Decades...since long before I began playing. Machine players have only been fighting this war for a few years now (maybe 5).
There are two types of pure blackjack card counter AP's. The first is guys that play on teams and usually have a short career. They usually don't have a lot of BR which is why they join a team. It is the people that manage and run the teams that have longer careers. The players they recruit are pretty much disposable.
The second is the solo player, like me and again there aren't many of us left. We tend to be loners as far as who we associate with. We may have a very small handful of other players that we trust and that takes years to develop. In my case it is 3 people. Two very high end, very known players, who both reside part-time or fulltime in Vegas that I have met with and one that I network with and although I turned him down for meeting in the past, would meet him if the chance occurred again. Those are my 3 guys. I don't hang out or socialize with AP's, go drinking, go to forum meetups. Pure blackjack card counter AP's at my level don't do that. It isn't conducive to longevity.
So you can say "I understand his reasons for privacy", but everything you say after that proves you don't understand or have a clue.
Now let's get into your little list Boz. You made that list, for one reason, so you could leave me off it. That is fine you can do that. You don't like me and that is fine too. But I don't believe for a minute that you don't KNOW that I know what I am talking about. If you don't then you are not as smart as I always gave you credit for.
Either way, it is fine. Doesn't effect my life or income.
Yet you have to be such a braggart that you go on WoV and post about the number of casinos on your rotation and how the playing conditions are actually better for you now.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
How in any way, shape or form does that help you? With less players out there currently due to the conditions you are only making yourself possibly more under the radar. It proves your need for attention. They is no possible longevity or AP reason to post that.
And my point sticks that I have no proof what you actually do. Your posting current conditions makes me confused as hell.
And you still haven’t denied paying the Wizard off.
I did not pay Wizard one cent. We simply spoke like adults and came to an arrangement, allowing us to move forward. Now you will just post that you don't believe that, so what is the point?Quote:
Originally Posted by The BozYet you have to be such a braggart that you go on WoV and post about the number of casinos on your rotation and how the playing conditions are actually better for you now.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
How in any way, shape or form does that help you? With less players out there currently due to the conditions you are only making yourself possibly more under the radar. It proves your need for attention. They is no possible longevity or AP reason to post that.
And my point sticks that I have no proof what you actually do. Your posting current conditions makes me confused as hell.
And you still haven’t denied paying the Wizard off.
I posted general information, didn't list a single casino in my report. I almost never mention a casino by name. Occasionally El Cortez. I have my reasons for that and KNOW mentioning it can't really hurt me.
Advantage machine play goes back at least to the 70's, not just a few years ago.Quit spreading disinformation. The first advantage plays were on the old electro-mechanical slots.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJVery strange Boz. You write "I understand his reasons for privacy", but then go on to make unfounded accusations because I don't meet any people. Obviously then you don't understand my need for privacy.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
I am almost strictly a blackjack card counter AP. That is very different from most AP's on these forums that machine play makes up a good deal of their play. Strictly blackjack AP's of which there aren't many of us left, have been fighting the "war" with the casino industry for decades, the cat and mouse game, and all the infiltrating forums, and players switching sides that goes along with it. Decades...since long before I began playing. Machine players have only been fighting this war for a few years now (maybe 5).
There are two types of pure blackjack card counter AP's. The first is guys that play on teams and usually have a short career. They usually don't have a lot of BR which is why they join a team. It is the people that manage and run the teams that have longer careers. The players they recruit are pretty much disposable.
The second is the solo player, like me and again there aren't many of us left. We tend to be loners as far as who we associate with. We may have a very small handful of other players that we trust and that takes years to develop. In my case it is 3 people. Two very high end, very known players, who both reside part-time or fulltime in Vegas that I have met with and one that I network with and although I turned him down for meeting in the past, would meet him if the chance occurred again. Those are my 3 guys. I don't hang out or socialize with AP's, go drinking, go to forum meetups. Pure blackjack card counter AP's at my level don't do that. It isn't conducive to longevity.
So you can say "I understand his reasons for privacy", but everything you say after that proves you don't understand or have a clue.
Learn to read drunk old man.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmAdvantage machine play goes back at least to the 70's, not just a few years ago.Quit spreading disinformation. The first advantage plays were on the old electro-mechanical slots.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJVery strange Boz. You write "I understand his reasons for privacy", but then go on to make unfounded accusations because I don't meet any people. Obviously then you don't understand my need for privacy.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
I am almost strictly a blackjack card counter AP. That is very different from most AP's on these forums that machine play makes up a good deal of their play. Strictly blackjack AP's of which there aren't many of us left, have been fighting the "war" with the casino industry for decades, the cat and mouse game, and all the infiltrating forums, and players switching sides that goes along with it. Decades...since long before I began playing. Machine players have only been fighting this war for a few years now (maybe 5).
There are two types of pure blackjack card counter AP's. The first is guys that play on teams and usually have a short career. They usually don't have a lot of BR which is why they join a team. It is the people that manage and run the teams that have longer careers. The players they recruit are pretty much disposable.
The second is the solo player, like me and again there aren't many of us left. We tend to be loners as far as who we associate with. We may have a very small handful of other players that we trust and that takes years to develop. In my case it is 3 people. Two very high end, very known players, who both reside part-time or fulltime in Vegas that I have met with and one that I network with and although I turned him down for meeting in the past, would meet him if the chance occurred again. Those are my 3 guys. I don't hang out or socialize with AP's, go drinking, go to forum meetups. Pure blackjack card counter AP's at my level don't do that. It isn't conducive to longevity.
So you can say "I understand his reasons for privacy", but everything you say after that proves you don't understand or have a clue.
MDawg. Still grasping at what little straws you think you have. That really must suck for you.
I already said that I don't know much about the Alexa ranking from the very beginning. I know enough to know that it's not accurate and there are ways to manipulate it. Since you have so much knowledge and an obsession with it, I believe you probably figured out a way to manipulate it, if not, it's somehow coincidence or your cherry picking.
It's good to know your little gash gets wet over your Alexa ranking.
I've never been concerned with how much traffic I do or don't bring to the site like you do.
Guess how many people including the site owners actually care about what you may or may not bring to the websites we all participate at? That number is exactly one.
It's painfully obvious everyone knows damn well you have a burning desire for attention and undeserved admiration. I believe you're willing to go to any lengths including, but not limited to making up complete b******* and fakery to achieve that attention and admiration you clamor for.
Remember how you posted up how good you are at heads up poker and how you would crush it? Remember I offered you a heads-up match and you proceeded to run away like a phony little b****?
You made up some type of BS excuse about not wanting to play with an RNG generated deck. I said we could figure out how to get around that and play with a live dealer and cards online and you quickly scampered off. I think I might have actually found a place that does exactly what I was suggesting, I was going to bring it up again but I just said f*** it you're just going to find another lame excuse.
You asked before why anybody would make up lies about gambling and put up fake s*** online. I offered a few examples of people who have done so. Siegfried(or whatever his name is) claiming he could show proof he made over $1000000 blah blah blah blah, and as it turns out, it was a mistake of some kind via the casino or some other b*******.
I and others have already responded to the CTR bullshit. I'm not going to repeat myself, people can go read it(next time quote my response)
You've showed no legitimate proof of anything other than the fact that you know how to spin a good yarn and post up some fake pictures. People have posted up pictures before that have fold people(not me) and guess what?... They have turned out to be fraudulent/ fakes.
Let me say this again, just in case anybody missed it before. You claimed you wanted to meet up with the Wizard and perhaps other someone else to prove your b*******. You claim to have been to Las Vegas many times, and yet you have not once made that happen.
I even suggested that I would spring for a spy pen and you could record a session of your big High rolling action that you claim. I noticed not one of your pictures have actually been during a hand getting paid off on 1 of these big bets you claim you make. I've already explained my loose theory on how I believe these pictures are materializing. Whatever the case, something isn't right, that's for damn sure.
You basically claim never lose playing Baccarat(I believe that, because I don't believe you're actually playing like you're suggesting you do). You claim to have been buying Bitcoin and holding it since it was like under $5 or whatever(I don't remember the exact price time and price you claim to have bought it at, but it was super duper low, perhaps lower then $5 bucks). You have also made outrageous stock market trading claims.
Please feel free to tell us what all your trades are going to be prior to making your claims and then let us judge for yourself.
Remember over on Wizard of Vegas when you post up a picture and claimed you are one particular Casino when you took the picture, when in fact, it was proven that picture was not at the place you claimed it was taken?
Considering the fact that you claim to have all this knowledge about big Ballin baccarat play... when I brought up the private third party host, you certainly didn't seem to have any knowledge about that. You were basically claiming you had to be some kind of whale in order to get that. That was certainly not true as I pointed out you don't even have to be close to a whale. You just someone who makes semi periodic trips to Vegas with an average bet of $50 to $200 and someone who brings about 15,000 each trip and actually put some some play. And from what I understand you've claimed before is that you don't really get anything extra other than what a normal host would offer to anyone at your level and what they send you the other normal marketing. Basically, if it were true that your betting at the levels you claim you're not negotiating well enough and you're leaving a ton of s*** on the table. If it were actually true that you have all this money, in addition to a super duper baccarat winning strategy/system, then we would actually consider you to be one of the dumbest gamblers in the world considering the fact that you're not making tens of millions of dollars a year with it was not all that much time invested. Unless you're cheating casinos don't give a flying f*** what kind of system you use on baccarat or how much you win, they will keep letting you play till the f****** cows come home and you can bet staggering amounts of money.
"It's still all talk." if you haven't yet to meet one legitimate person that can back up any of your claims whatsoever, especially when just about everything everything you say just doesn't add up. There are other people that actually have things that make sense and actually add up along with multiple reputable people that have witnessed said things.
I don't care how well you write something or what you've learned from someone else or by reading it on the internet. What actually matters is some legitimate evidence that you actually do all these things you're claiming to be doing/ have knowledge about. There's been multiple people I know who can slurp up information online and spew that s*** back up as if they have some type of actual experience and knowledge about it.
When are you going to get it through your thick head, almost nobody believes most of the things you're saying. Why don't you feel free to start a poll and ask who actually believes you're rubbish. make sure it's a poll where everyone can see who actually voted. Don't worry Tasha will vote for you.
I could write point for counterpoint, but...why? The more you write the more stupid and ignorant you sound. And jealous. :cool:
You're just a self-educated bore who goes on and on about things he knows little about. The less you know about something, the more you write about it!
Which let's just say - for a moment - that it is okay to be uneducated, and education has little to do with being a successful gambler, fine - but at least stick to what you know don't presume to pass judgment on the stock market, the internet, SEO, financial transaction laws, casino or other credit, or anything that requires a little more than just whatever it is you have picked up off the streets.
You also have never played any big sums at a casino, definitely not at any very high limit table game, you're a self-admitted small time player who hides his presence on the internet in offshore casinos, you never walked into a casino with a big credit line in your life, so stop commenting on what or what might not have happened in the world of high rollers - you've never been one.
I am not trying to put you down, you're doing that quite successfully half the time you open your mouth. Just stick to what you know, you just appear silly when you try to appear like an expert on everything, or some kind of seer who knows what is real and what is not.
What the hell are you talking about 5 years or so?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
I see what you said to Mickey. So I'm not sure what he misread or why you were saying that to him, but I'm getting the same impression he did.
I played quite a bit of blackjack back up until about 2003 including pure card counting, obviously nowhere near as much card counting as you and many others have. I don't really care what the game is if there's a good enough advantage, I'll play it... including Sports, live keno, bingo, any and all table games, horses, poker, online and anything else you can think of.
Aside from blackjack, while playing machines I've been playing a cat-and-mouse game with the casino since the 90s I was one of Bob N's very early cases where I was roughed up by the casino and that was simply because I was playing and hitting too many video poker progressives. I've been back roomed and 86ed at multiple casinos multiple times just for Advantage Playing machines, and that's just me. if you consider how many serious card counters there are versus how many serious machine players there are, I'm almost wondering if it isn't actually worse for machine players than blackjack players when it comes to back-rooming in an actual 86ing.
I think your theories and the categories that you put blackjack players in are not as accurate as you think. If you're only communicating with 3 people how can you possibly come up with these categories assessments and statements? I certainly hope you're not getting your information from what people are saying online. I haven't been out Counting cards in a long time but the fact that I talk to a network with a lot of blackjack players, I'm going to hazard a guess to say that I can make a better assessment than you about the overall Blackjack community and what's going on.
I really don't know what you're talking about when you say so few solo blackjack players out there, I can think of a bunch of them off the top of my head who are fairly successful. I think there's more solo successful Blackjack counters today than there ever was. Some of these guys have been doing it for many years. I think it's actually very rare for there to be a solo blackjack player such as yourself who actually doesn't hang out with and know multiple other Advantage players. At least not people that have been doing it for a number of years full time.
https://i.imgur.com/mnJSfpt.png
https://i.imgur.com/dyLSIEv.png
You gotta understand, if Axel thinks something is true (or not true), he'll write volumes about it even though he has no personal experience in the matter, or what dim recollection he does have on the subject is faded through that terrible memory of his from decades ago.
Let's take this one step at a time so you can't steer the conversation into another Direction.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
We've already went over all this before(perhaps somebody can help me find my response to this claim of his). Now you're completely lying and spinning s***. Please show me where I admitted I was a small-time gambler? Please show me this before you move on.
I believe I said, I don't care if I'm playing pennies a spin or thousands a round, I have done it all, I only care about extracting the most money from the casino with the least amount of risk possible. That's just smart gambling.
I'm 100% certain I put down much bigger bets and risked much more than you ever have. And no doubt, I've won more at one time than you ever have as well. But no I'm not some super high roller who dunks off his money and the high-limit room with no advantage. That's just f****** retarded in most people's opinion.
I tell you what, I'll be happy to dig out a box full of old W-2g's, pictures, Witnesses and testimony and whatever other legitimate proof you have going back as far as you'd like and present it to Michael Shackelford to verify and make an assessment. And then you show him all your legitimate proof throughout the years. Whomever he believes won more and put more in action, the other person will have to f*** off ALL the forums for 3 months. Oh, I would also be willing to presented to dandruff as well.
Just the fact that you're talking about a W-2g underscores how out of your league you are - trying to prove a SLOT MACHINE win to establish that you were a high roller at table games.
Just like a wop to bring a knife to a gun fight.
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/d0f1c08...f-13ef5eb59692
This goes RIGHT back to your asking SiegfriedRoy for his "CTR" to prove his big table game win. :D;)
PLEASE quit while you are behind, you've made enough of a fool of yourself tonight.
Like I said,
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Originally Posted by MDawg
Hey, why don't we put a cherry on top we have 48 hours to round up as much cash as you possibly can then take a close up video of it while showing a majority of the bills close up and then we resent that video to them as well.
Just reach into (or is it under?) your mattress I am sure all your cash is riiight there.
Do I have to keep saying anything more, or do you just keep making my points about you for me?
Please show me where I ever said I was a high roller at table games?Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawgJust the fact that you're talking about a W-2g underscores how out of your league you are - trying to prove a SLOT MACHINE win to establish that you were a high roller at table games.
This goes RIGHT back to your asking SiegfriedRoy for his "CTR" to prove his big table game win. :D;)
PLEASE quit while you are behind, you've made enough of a fool of yourself tonight.
Like I said,
Just like a wop to bring a knife to a gun fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/d0f1c08...f-13ef5eb59692
I bet have bet many thousands per hand on table games, I don't even know what you call that. I don't want to be a high roller, I want to do whatever rolling it takes to "roll" the casino.
At least I have knowledge about table games where you seem to have zero knowledge about the rest of the games in the casino. Do you realize there's a much higher variance playing slots, video poker and other games than there is playing Baccarat?
Just as I expected, you won't show proof of the things you're claiming I said.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
And you're not willing to back up anything you say or claim.
My point is simply that you know little or nothing about the things I have lived.
On the other hand, I know very little about machine play.
Stick to your slots. If I come in and try to school you on how I think that machine world works, then you may start calling me Axel.
Then maybe you too should re-read what I actually said.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
I didn't say machine AP has only been around 5 years. I said the war for machine players has only been 5 years or so, since the casino industry declared war on machine AP's much the same as blackjack players have been fighting for decades.
You do?? I see maybe half dozen a year. 3 that are local and 3-4 that maybe I see once or twice a year, so I suspect they are on trips.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
Are we talking about the same things here? I am talking professional players playing black or above that make a living solely from blackjack card counting. I am not talking about low limit counters or weekend warriors, or players playing under bankrolled or too scared to through the money out. Again, I am talking about professional blackjack players, making a living only through card counting. You think there are more than there ever was? :confused: Well, they sure anit playing Vegas.
Nope, that's exactly what I interpreted it to be. Did you read my entire post where I basically said the casinos have been warring against machine players at least since the early 90s.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJThen maybe you too should re-read what I actually said.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
I didn't say machine AP has only been around 5 years. I said the war for machine players has only been 5 years or so, since the casino industry declared war on machine AP's much the same as blackjack players have been fighting for decades.
How would you know, if you were not even around back then?
If you don't play machines all that often, and you only know a few people that are Advantage players, how would you know what type of wars are going on outside of blackjack?
For the most part I think there's a lot more people online airing their grievances about blackjack than other forms of Advantage Play. Card counters seem to be a chatty bunch online, so it might seem that way. You're way off on your 5-year estimate.
Yeah, I'm not talking about the Weekend Warriors and the low chippers. I'm talking about professional players who make a living playing Blackjack.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJYou do?? I see maybe half dozen a year. 3 that are local and 3-4 that maybe I see once or twice a year, so I suspect they are on trips.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
Are we talking about the same things here? I am talking professional players playing black or above that make a living solely from blackjack card counting. I am not talking about low limit counters or weekend warriors, or players playing under bankrolled or too scared to through the money out. Again, I am talking about professional blackjack players, making a living only through card counting. You think there are more than there ever was? :confused: Well, they sure anit playing Vegas.
I know very few people that only stick to Las Vegas when counting cards.
So basically you know nothing other than how to lose at baccarat and possibly blackjack. Other than a few dumbfucks nobody believes you beat Baccarat.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
I know exactly how those things work, I have played both of those games admittedly very little Baccarat. I'm a lifetime winner on both games over many years. Of course, I only Play those games when I have an advantage.
Of course, I know little or nothing about the things you have lived(and that's the point, no one does on the forums since you have made a point to make sure not to meet anyone, even after claiming you wanted to, and you had plenty of opportunity). There's people around the Gaming Community that have known me and know what I do since the 90s. And I'm not just talking about some Joe blow off the street nobody knows. I even have a copy of a griffin book sitting right here on my shelf with my name in it and approximately how much money I took out of the casino(actually, I took the page out in case someone I don't know very well wants to look at it, but you get the point).
You on the other hand have a few snapshots of some floated credit line that you use to purchase chips and take pictures of them for the purpose of pretending you won while playing Baccarat.
Some of us don't need to float company credit lines when we can simply put cash on deposit and take out markers, get comps, and all the other b*******.
Jackie Gaughan was chasing out machine pros in the 80's, dimwit.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
KJocchio, its about time you talked about self employment tax. Or are you paying it? I don't think so. If we are to believe your income level, about 80K per year, then you would be paying 10 or 12K a year in self employment tax. But yet you refer to people on SS as welfare people. If you are making that big of an investment do you plan on passing it by when you get older because you consider it to be a government handout. And if so then it must really chap your ass to be paying so much. That is, if you are really paying it. I don't think you are.
PS: I'm in my 40th month without a drink. How about you?
As usual you go on for pages and pages about why you think something might not be true, offering not a shred of evidence to support your thoughts, and just making it even more clear that you've never done much other than low end play.
But why should I point out what a low end has-been you are? You already make that point yourself when you make a big deal about bragging about lying in bed all day and buying crap at garage sales to make a hundred bucks.
Again, not saying there is anything wrong with being low end. That's the salt of the earth. But, stick to your lane and don't comment on what you don't know!Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
Go back to...whatever it is you do. The market opens in thirty minutes I will neither be lying in bed all day like you, nor trying to spend the whole day making a hundred bucks like you.
When you have something other than bitter rant to post, let me know! :cool:
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Originally Posted by kewlJI did not pay Wizard one cent. We simply spoke like adults and came to an arrangement, allowing us to move forward. Now you will just post that you don't believe that, so what is the point?Quote:
Originally Posted by The BozYet you have to be such a braggart that you go on WoV and post about the number of casinos on your rotation and how the playing conditions are actually better for you now.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
How in any way, shape or form does that help you? With less players out there currently due to the conditions you are only making yourself possibly more under the radar. It proves your need for attention. They is no possible longevity or AP reason to post that.
And my point sticks that I have no proof what you actually do. Your posting current conditions makes me confused as hell.
And you still haven’t denied paying the Wizard off.
I posted general information, didn't list a single casino in my report. I almost never mention a casino by name. Occasionally El Cortez. I have my reasons for that and KNOW mentioning it can't really hurt me.
I appreciate you denying it. That’s all I asked for all along. The issue is now with him and his credibility, but that was always the case with the Wizard. This is just another example of him and his word being worthless.
And I still think what you post is stupid for your “career”. But your ego won’t allow you to stop in some demented way trying for respect or acceptance.
I'm going to disagree with the part of his word being worthless. Wizard said something years ago and has since changed his mind in light of new information/developments, is what it sounds like to me. The world would be an even worse place if every person were so inflexible they had to go with their first thoughts about every single thing out of some misguided notion of maintaining integrity.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
Nope, I disagree. He knew EXACTLY what was going on with Norm and KJ when all this originally happened. There was no new information or developments. The time to investigate and make the decision was then. He then made it worse by saying KJ was dead to him afterwards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mission146I'm going to disagree with the part of his word being worthless. Wizard said something years ago and has since changed his mind in light of new information/developments, is what it sounds like to me. The world would be an even worse place if every person were so inflexible they had to go with their first thoughts about every single thing out of some misguided notion of maintaining integrity.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
Now it just reeks of an attempt to increase traffic to the site. If he really wanted to do the right thing he would reach out to Mickey and invite him back. But every time that was brought up, including during Mick’s health scare he shot it down immediately.
Of course I believe Mickey would tell him to go Fuck himself. Compared to KJ begging for years.
The new development to which I refer is Norm essentially being completely inactive on WoV, which lends itself to the notion that he may have only been there to satisfy his vendetta against KewlJ. Wizard couldn't have known that, at the time, because it was a future event.
As has been mentioned, WoV is not the moneymaker of the sites. Again, I don't know whether or not it's independently profitable (that info has nothing to do with me), but that said...I don't think they hold Wizard accountable for actual traffic to that site. Even if they did, then they made a business decision followed by Wizard making a business decision---worst case scenario. It'll hardly be the first time someone has made a revenue-focused decision in business and this one should be harmless. Honestly, if so many people didn't despise Wizard completely, then nobody would have to pretend to actually care all that much.
And, if we assume your last couple of sentences are correct, wouldn't the (assumed) fact that Mickey would tell him to fuck himself play into the decision of whether or not to ask him?
I don’t speak for Mickey naturally, it’s just a feeling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mission146
Of course we all know and understand WoV doesn’t make money unless there are a lot of lurkers who actually click on the sites. The majority of regular posters there do not use those sites, even if they believe there is money to be made online.
As for the Wizard, most everyone knows he is bad with money and it’s why he had to beg for cash like a hobo on the street. Selling to the Serbs was the best thing that ever happened to him. I understand you know them and say they are good guys. I just don’t trust people who promote illegal activities that flaunt US laws to make money that for the most part never comes back to our country.
Of course the US needs to legalize online casinos that pay taxes and are regulated like it is starting to happen in some states like PA and NJ. As for Axel and others saying they are a voice for online gamblers, I see that as BS. There is no regulation and he even admits you are taking a risk on getting paid. There is nothing they do that isn’t in their best financial interest. Again nothing wrong with this but to think they are looking out for players, it’s a naive thought.
I would never play a continuous shuffle machine.
I tend to agree with your feeling and also don't speak for Mickey. I wouldn't dare. He might be seventy and recently had a heart attack, but he's the sort of dude that would find a way to kick my ass if I crossed him. Totally old school. Love it.Quote:
Originally Posted by The BozI don’t speak for Mickey naturally, it’s just a feeling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mission146
Of course we all know and understand WoV doesn’t make money unless there are a lot of lurkers who actually click on the sites. The majority of regular posters there do not use those sites, even if they believe there is money to be made online.
As for the Wizard, most everyone knows he is bad with money and it’s why he had to beg for cash like a hobo on the street. Selling to the Serbs was the best thing that ever happened to him. I understand you know them and say they are good guys. I just don’t trust people who promote illegal activities that flaunt US laws to make money that for the most part never comes back to our country.
Of course the US needs to legalize online casinos that pay taxes and are regulated like it is starting to happen in some states like PA and NJ. As for Axel and others saying they are a voice for online gamblers, I see that as BS. There is no regulation and he even admits you are taking a risk on getting paid. There is nothing they do that isn’t in their best financial interest. Again nothing wrong with this but to think they are looking out for players, it’s a naive thought.
I mostly agree with your second sentence, though I do think there are a lot of lurkers and not even all of which who sign in, create an account (on WoV) and what have you. I also have no idea what the revenue-sharing arrangements are, but I should imagine that they only really need a small percentage of traffic to use the gambling sites. I don't see how it would be sustainable otherwise. There are also other ways to make money on traffic info, cookies, targeted advertising, metadata collection, etc. etc. I don't know that they do those things, just that those things exist.
I'd be lying not to admit that some of whatever money is collected finds its way to me via getting paid to write for the family of sites. The only illegal activity, at least the only activity any level of Government would actually care about, has to do with the banks processing the stuff. Even then, the banks would have to know that's what they are processing for it to even be illegal. That's not to say there aren't state laws; there are and I have said as much in my writings...just that nobody really cares about individual people playing at online casinos. In some states, however, it's not even illegal to participate in unlawful gambling as long as you're doing it in the capacity of a player.
You take a risk on getting paid even with PA casinos, exception only to your initial deposit...which they can essentially free roll because if you lose, you just lose. I wrote a relatively recent article about the Terms & Conditions associated with one of them. The only real protection with that one is that, if you won money, they'd at least have to eventually give your initial deposit back...whatever else happens.
Hold on now, let me clarify what I was trying to say. They have a business model that makes a s*** ton of money, I can't fault them for that. People are going to play online casinos with or without them, it's been happening since the late 90s. There's a ton of Rogue affiliate sites out there who don't give a flying f*** who gets ripped off or who doesn't, they'll advertise and bolster complete rip-off joints and offer nothing but a fake review.Quote:
Originally Posted by The BozI don’t speak for Mickey naturally, it’s just a feeling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mission146
Of course we all know and understand WoV doesn’t make money unless there are a lot of lurkers who actually click on the sites. The majority of regular posters there do not use those sites, even if they believe there is money to be made online.
As for the Wizard, most everyone knows he is bad with money and it’s why he had to beg for cash like a hobo on the street. Selling to the Serbs was the best thing that ever happened to him. I understand you know them and say they are good guys. I just don’t trust people who promote illegal activities that flaunt US laws to make money that for the most part never comes back to our country.
Of course the US needs to legalize online casinos that pay taxes and are regulated like it is starting to happen in some states like PA and NJ. As for Axel and others saying they are a voice for online gamblers, I see that as BS. There is no regulation and he even admits you are taking a risk on getting paid. There is nothing they do that isn’t in their best financial interest. Again nothing wrong with this but to think they are looking out for players, it’s a naive thought.
At least latest Casino bonuses, from what I've seen... they don't censor the reviews and what people have to say about the casinos(I guess I might censor profanity). For instance, there might be a casino that has 400 reviews and it's getting a green 4.5 out of 5 stars. On the other hand we have a casino getting red 1.1 five stars with only 28 reviews. I'm going to venture to guess it only has 28 reviews because people avoid that place like the plague simply because of the reviews. There are also all other kinds of resources on that site that can help guide you to find a worth while casino to play at, and tell you which ones to avoid. Of course they're always going to be casinos that start off good and end up bad and they're going to be casinos that start off bad and end up good.
I'm not fooled into thinking, nor am I claiming they are a noble and great do-gooders looking to reform and police the gaming industry for the players benefit. They're in business to make money in an industry that has a multitude of problems. I have no doubt if a few people get screwed by one of their biggest money makers that they're going to suddenly put them on a blacklist until the problem gets solved. Let's just put it this way, it's better than nothing.
Hell, you're not going to find that in regulated license to casinos. Does everyone know what happens if a casino in Nevada decides not to pay someone after you've won your case with gaming? If you ever read one one of Gaming's decision letters in your favor, it basically says they are not debt collectors and cannot force the casino to actually pay you your money. I guess they can be fined, but I haven't heard of them getting fined for not paying someone after decision. I think it's very rare that the casino doesn't pay when gaming rules against them.
I'm all for online regulated casinos, however, I'm not for making unregulated online casinos illegal here in the United States. You'll notice that some of these New Jersey casinos are now basically being ran and operated bye all the casinos that were unregulated at one time. Go look at their terms and conditions, basically they are the same thing you would find at an unregulated site. If we take away all the options and give the power and business to all to the land-based casinos, eventually the licensed online casinos will all tighten up and become practically unplayable as far as Advantage Play goes(it's already starting to happen).
As far as unregulated offshore casinos go, I'm all for some type of system/ authority/ regulation that allows players to recoup their money when they get f***** and even jail time for owners and operators who f*** those people.
Much of my comments are coming from an advantage players perspective, because I've made a lot of money at online casinos and there's a lot of money left to be made playing online casinos. It would obviously be better for a majority of the population if all online casinos we're strictly licensed and regulated. But I also think it would be better for most of the population if 80% of the casinos were gone.
It's not so much that I would tell the Wiz to fuck off if invited back to WoV. I don't hate the Wizard but I would never agree to live up to the rules. Plus I'm not really up to groveling to get back on a forum.
The Wizard is a public person. No matter how good of a public person you are you are going to make enemies. With most normal people I would say it's about half like you and half don't. It comes with the territory. People are just that way. If nothing else some people will hate you just because you are to damn good. Even Mother Theresa had her detractors.
Theoretically, if he just offered you back and all he wanted was a straight yes/no answer, what would the answer be?Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
ADDED: Yes, I'm obviously asking because I'd like to have you back there if it was possible.
It was mentioned for years that Norm never posted after the banning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mission146
It was known and Mike knew that Norm was never going to post again, that he was only posting to make sure of the banning.
Mike even admitted that he only banned KJ as a personal favor to Qfit.
It didn't take Mike over 3 years to figure the whole thing out.
Stop making up bullshit... we all know the story.
queerJ won't let us forget.
Of course now I'm sure he will play nice and never bash Mike again like he did for the last 3 to 4 years.
Here is a post from kewlJ himself bashing the Wizard lol...
This was on Feb 25, 2020!!
https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...Thread/page190
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Originally Posted by kewlJ
Monet, you need to stop holding on to every word everyone says. People say shit on forums.
Hell I know of one guy claiming to own a million and a half dollar Newell RV, when he really owned a $17 grand Winnebago pull behind camper. :cool:
Poll results are Tasha vs everybody.
I'm not making anything up, just giving my perspective. He certainly didn't know that QFIT would not be a regular participant the day after he banned KewlJ, or anything. If you're going to ask if I think KewlJ should have been let back sooner, I'd say probably, but that's not my decision to make. I also don't know what private discussions did or didn't take place. Maybe QFIT said he was going to be more active over there, I don't know. It did seem like he'd pop up from time to time, post in small spurts, then disappear again.Quote:
Originally Posted by monetIt was mentioned for years that Norm never posted after the banning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mission146
It was known and Mike knew that Norm was never going to post again, that he was only posting to make sure of the banning.
Mike even admitted that he only banned KJ as a personal favor to Qfit.
It didn't take Mike over 3 years to figure the whole thing out.
Stop making up bullshit... we all know the story.
queerJ won't let us forget.
Of course now I'm sure he will play nice and never bash Mike again like he did for the last 3 to 4 years.
Here is a post from kewlJ himself bashing the Wizard lol...
This was on Feb 25, 2020!!
https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...Thread/page190
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Originally Posted by kewlJ
It's not possible for me to answer the question because I'd have to stipulate that KewlJ is trolling here in the first place. If he is, then he's not doing any worse trolling than some 25-50% of the other people here.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcap
You have solid points.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mission146
I don't think anyone can dispute that kewlJ went from saying this...
and 3 months later he is allowed back at DT and WoV.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
I would think saying that Mike is no friend to gamblers or the gambling community is far worse than anything Mike banned kewlJ for years ago.
Forgive and Forget I suppose but I would think trust would be an issue.
How do you trust or respect a member who just said that shit about you 3 months ago lol??
He even doubled down saying that he proves he is no friend everyday on his own forum and that he is only propping up his own EGO lol.
Not only did Mike allow him back but he was welcomed back with open arms by many members after many derogatory posts about WoV's Hero.
I guess Mike can always ban him again which would be fun for him I suppose.
Boz is probably right that something smells wrong.
But when you are talking about Axel and what he does you are talking about something you don't know about. Clean up your own backyard.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawgAs usual you go on for pages and pages about why you think something might not be true, offering not a shred of evidence to support your thoughts, and just making it even more clear that you've never done much other than low end play.
But why should I point out what a low end has-been you are? You already make that point yourself when you make a big deal about bragging about lying in bed all day and buying crap at garage sales to make a hundred bucks.
Again, not saying there is anything wrong with being low end. That's the salt of the earth. But, stick to your lane and don't comment on what you don't know!Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
Go back to...whatever it is you do. The market opens in thirty minutes I will neither be lying in bed all day like you, nor trying to spend the whole day making a hundred bucks like you.
When you have something other than bitter rant to post, let me know! :cool:
The answer would be NO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mission146Theoretically, if he just offered you back and all he wanted was a straight yes/no answer, what would the answer be?Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
ADDED: Yes, I'm obviously asking because I'd like to have you back there if it was possible.
KJocchio, you rode the Singer RV story clean into the ground. Hammered it flat. Left no stone unturned. Now you are telling someone they shouldn't do the same with the KJ/Shack story. With the timing of your statement, Feb 25, and your recent reinstatement to WoV being pretty close to that I'm sure Shack missed that little missive from you. Someone should make him aware of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Yeah, I mean, KewlJ says that both decided to let bygones be bygones and that's good enough for me. Also, like I said to Boz, worst-case scenario is it's a business decision...which I doubt...but that's still not the worst thing in the world for a worst case scenario.Quote:
Originally Posted by monetYou have solid points.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mission146
I don't think anyone can dispute that kewlJ went from saying this...
and 3 months later he is allowed back at DT and WoV.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
I would think saying that Mike is no friend to gamblers or the gambling community is far worse than anything Mike banned kewlJ for years ago.
Forgive and Forget I suppose but I would think trust would be an issue.
How do you trust or respect a member who just said that shit about you 3 months ago lol??
He even doubled down saying that he proves he is no friend everyday on his own forum and that he is only propping up his own EGO lol.
Not only did Mike allow him back but he was welcomed back with open arms by many members after many derogatory posts about WoV's Hero.
I guess Mike can always ban him again which would be fun for him I suppose.
Boz is probably right that something smells wrong.
I don't see how trust is an issue, it's a message board. Is KewlJ going to say something, like, really bad? He's not asking KewlJ to babysit his kids for a week, or anything. He's not lending KewlJ a half million dollars.
queerJ could be a ticking time bomb.
She has endless postings over here and other sites bashing Mike over and over again.
Does Mike have any postings anywhere bashing queerJ??
queerJ even created the sock Spiderman.
How many socks does he have that we don't know about?
Trust is an issue when you are dealing with a guy who fakes his own death, 4 years of bashing Mike, calling internet police on internet ghosts, becomes Chinese Flu crazy, thinking the virus goes through plumbing and walls, troll after troll and lie after lie.
This is a pretty good post on March 1, 2020.
Oh but bygones are bygones so all of this was just queerJ spewing bullshit and he didn't mean anything he posted???
It didn't take long for queerJ to snap on Axel lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
March 5, 2020
How long before she snaps at WoV or brings the seething over here instead??
https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...Thread/page192
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Originally Posted by AxelWolf
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Originally Posted by kewlJ
Again, with the trust thing, what's the worst possible result? That KewlJ floods WoV with offensive posts insulting Wizard (or someone else) before anyone can do anything about it? He's not even making him an Admin of the site, he's just letting him post there.
I mean, yeah, maybe if the world of message boards was the end all and be all of all of human existence, then you would be concerned about letting someone who said certain things post there. Since it's not, and, in fact, doesn't matter at all whatsoever in the grand scheme of things--I fail to see the problem.
With that logic it would seem you have grounds to unban all banned members.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mission146
KJ can be trusted but Boz or Mickey can't be trusted??
They were talking about this over on GF a few days back. First of all, I'm not an Administrator there, so it has nothing to do with me. Secondly, I wouldn't oppose going through and reviewing the Nukes (of more than six months, or so) on a case-by-case basis and would let most of them back. I wouldn't let all of them back because some Nukes have had to do with things occurring outside of the forum. But, almost all of the people banned for posting-related things would be allowed back.Quote:
Originally Posted by monet
With that said, I'd selectively let people know they were back, others I would unban and not send a PM. That's not to be a prick; it's just the process itself would take half of forever, so I'm going to be selective in the people I let know about it.
Okay, so MickeyCrimm gets a PM, Boz gets a PM, you get a PM, 1BB gets a PM...there are probably others.
But, Wizard's site, Wizard's call. Just because I would do it a certain way doesn't mean I take issue with how he does it---because he created the site and is the head of that site, so he can run it however he wishes. I suppose the owners could theoretically overrule him on something, but if that has ever happened, I'm certainly not aware of it. People do love to speculate. Even when I was an Admin with current ownership in place, nobody from ownership ever gave me any instructions vis-a-vis forum administration. But, again, there are some biased folks who want to assume the worst possible conclusions about anything even remotely having to do with Wizard, so there you go.
If any previously Nuked are allowed back do a posting offense within a particular period of time---that only I am aware of (the period of time)---then they will be Nuked again.
Generally speaking, I think the longest ban I would do is six months, barring off-forum incidents. One thing that you wouldn't like is that I would be pretty aggressive on post deletion for previously banned members, so if someone goes off on a complete tirade---and has previously been Nuked---that post is getting edited/deleted and I'm probably going to Nuke them permanently.
ADDED: There are some people more likely than others to go on such a tirade, so for optics purposes, I might stagger unbanning certain people a few days at a time. The only reason for that is I don't want 3+ people going completely off the rails all at the same time, and say I take a two-hour nap, now I wake up and have 100+ posts to delete? No thanks on that.
The better question might be:
Will I ever quit trolling queerJ?
queerJ has over 3 years of
deceitful
insincere
double-dealing
hypocritical
backstabbing
false
untrustworthy
duplicitous
Janus-faced
deceiving
dissembling
dishonest
disloyal
treacherous
perfidious
faithless
lying
untruthful
mendacious
posts on this site alone!
At least I get a break from your trolling while you stuff your face, which being a 400 lb porky bastard is pretty freaking often. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by monet
Just for the record, I have nor would ever have any interest in being at WoV again. I made it clear what I think about the Wizard when I made my last post. The site lost value to me when the political discussions were ended. Other than being able to find creative ways to insult Billryan without being suspended, there is nothing there for me to contribute. I can read anything I want and we know there is next to no valuable information discussed there to help anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJAt least I get a break from your trolling while you stuff your face, which being a 400 lb porky bastard is pretty freaking often. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by monet
It is much more important for KJ to be there as he is trying to find respect in a so called community he thinks is out there. He also says he wants to help young Blackjack players I guess he thinks he will meet on that site. That is if you believe him to have no other motives in meeting these young players just getting started in the career.
Thank god that deadbeat tax cheating medicaid queen KJ finally quit posting here.
Mickey you’ve been about the biggest troll on the site since you had your heart attack. Bumping this inactive thread combined with Rob being absent for awhile now pretty much proves it.
He's just unleashing his inner hobo. I look at it as a hobo unchained. He wandered his whole life and never really got anywhere. That has to be tough.
mickeycrimm stated that he was King Troll a few years back on this site.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcap
However, he convinced me that kewlJ is the biggest Troll on this site.
If you and others don't start posting gambling related threads, this site will die.
Unless you, I and others keep posting up drama.
I can only embarrass myself so much with pictures of vomit on my dinner plates.
There's no doubt he changed radically since his heart attack, I guess a close brush with death, will do that to some people.
I'm sticking with my oxygen deprivation theory. That's hell on brain cells.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozzy
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Originally Posted by monet
Yes Monet, it's all about you, and a few of the other "candies" here. When you cease to exist, then the world ceases to exist. Except for Mcap. There will always be an Mcap.
We've got your uppers and downers, and, Red's. We've got your Deech's pieces, ha. Your Danny Boys, to go with the hot Toddy Potty, and TablePooey. Geez, amazing, the same grouping's as from the real fake Bus. Some HCQ and SS, left over from the Bus. SS is always himself, even on the bus, and, off, as a candy.
It's not surprising that you and KJ are totally ignorant about hobos and bums. You both think it means the same thing. LOL! Hobos don't like bums....but you wouldn't know that. The term hobo basically means migrant worker. A hobo works everywhere he goes. A bum won't travel and won't work. He just stays in one spot and leeches off of others.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxPen
As a hobo I did the hardest work in all the towns. All the work no one else wanted to do. It takes a lot of gumption to do that. In my prime I could put anyone to shame if they tried to match me tit for tat doing physical labor.
All that roaming around I did ran me into professional gambling. My income certainly went way up but as a contributing member of society I took a big step downward. Gambling for a living is a non-redeeming endeavor. There are no goods or services delivered. Nothing is produced. A professional gambler is nothing but a leech. A bloodsucker. He produces or delivers nothing. Just strip mines the economy. Pure lowlife. In these respects a professional gambler has far more in common with a bum than he does a hobo.
BTW, Max. What do you and KJ do for a living?
You guys forget all that trolling I did on Singer. I trolled the hell out of him for years. None of you had a complaint then. All I did was change up who I was trolling. I quit trolling Singer and started trolling those asshole punks that started trolling me over my opinion on the DUB. I didn't start it. THEY STARTED IT!!!!! But I will damn sure finish it.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcap