Going Mobile

Although I've come a long way I still don't have the stamina I had before the heart attack. I have no problem parking and walking into and out of the small 20 machine casinos in Montana, or going grocery shopping at Albertsons or Safeway.

But getting around in the big hotel/casinos propose problems if I ever want to go back to them. I need to negotiate the parking lot and hotel with luggage plus....since I only play advantages I need to be able to make laps around the casino several times a day. Thats just way to much walking for me. So far it has kept me out of the big out of state hotel/casinos.

I started researching power wheel chairs online. This is the one I settled on. It's about a 4 minute video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5XamnIcn5w

So I went and bought one. The unit easily breaks down into 4 pieces and fits in the trunk of my car. Then I went to a big hotel/casino to try it out. I assembled it in the parking lot in about two minutes then headed into the casino. Talk about taking the strain off. Easy negotiation from parking lot to hotel. Then I was lapping the hell out of those machines all day. And you know those restrooms that are always far away. Well, they ain't so far away now. I'm tickled fricking pink.

Well thought out. Most players here have to leave their chairs to the side. This one could pull right up to the machine and the player just rotate the seat.

Congratulations Mickey, can’t keep a good man down when there is a will.

A good lesson for those sitting on their asses bitching about the extra $600 they were getting. As always, and in spite of whatever is going on, opportunities exist for this willing to put the effort in.

Have a great day Mick!

You have to wonder what the hell you are doing, when it comes down to this.

Dieting doesn't work, pills don't work, wheelchairs don't work, fancy strategies don't work, shrinks don't work - not really. Don't settle for this garbage. Get up, and do something about it. Park those fuckers. Fight back, until you are right again, however long it takes.

Geez, reminds me of the guy on oxygen whom I saw, one day, years ago, at one of those small shit-hole casinos. Dragging that small tank around. Waiting to die. Lol.

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Originally Posted by The Boz

Congratulations Mickey, can’t keep a good man down when there is a will.

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Yeah, the annals of casino gambling are filled with heros and "good men".

Can't make this shit up.

Kerry Packer
the Worlds Greatest Gambler
dragged around an oxygen tank during his last years, including in the back room of the Bellagio in 2001, where he played high stakes Baccarat. I was there and watched him play. They didn't have private salons yet. He lost that trip after being ahead but he won so much in a prior trip he was banned from all MGM casinos for some years.

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

So I went and bought one. The unit easily breaks down into 4 pieces and fits in the trunk of my car. Then I went to a big hotel/casino to try it out. I assembled it in the parking lot in about two minutes then headed into the casino. Talk about taking the strain off. Easy negotiation from parking lot to hotel. Then I was lapping the hell out of those machines all day. And you know those restrooms that are always far away. Well, they ain't so far away now. I'm tickled fricking pink.

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By the way, those Hexbreaker machines are a good mathematical challenge for you to keep busy. Some are obvious plays but I would believe they have burnt many an AP that thought they figured them out.

"You have to wonder what the hell you are doing, when it comes down to this.

Dieting doesn't work, pills don't work, wheelchairs don't work, fancy strategies don't work, shrinks don't work - not really. Don't settle for this garbage. Get up, and do something about it. Park those fuckers. Fight back, until you are right again, however long it takes."


LMR, I know that you mean well, but it just sounds insulting to me. How the fuck do you know what the hell kind of workouts mickey has been undergoing? Shouldn't workouts and exersize for recovery be done in stages? Please give the guy the benefit of doubt will you? I'm sure mickeycrimm is doing everything that he can withstand right now.

I had someone run into me with one of those damn things about 2-3 years ago in the Bayou right before they went out of business. Hurt like hell. Those things should be outlawed in highly occupied areas. But hey, whatever it takes I guess.

Would be pretty funny if some other vulture started using tire spikes to keep you off plays:D

You might want to look into some run flats.

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Originally Posted by BoSox

LMR, I know that you mean well, but it just sounds insulting to me. How the fuck do you know what the hell kind of workouts mickey has been undergoing? Shouldn't workouts and exercise for recovery be done in stages? Please give the guy the benefit of doubt will you? I'm sure mickeycrimm is doing everything that he can withstand right now.

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Anyone who knows my history well, as Bill Yung, here, and, Garnabby, elsewhere, knows that I wrote of my partner going through a bypass, many years ago, just after I met her, and, a kidney transplant, about ten years ago. She had what is called one dwarf kidney, and, one pea kidney. Look, the sort of stuff that you can't really know of until you have kidney problems. A lot of people have only one kidney, but, like her, don't find out about it unless something goes wrong. She was a twin, something to do with this, where one of the twins dominated. Anyway, I've been through all of the medical stuff, with her, all of the special dietary stuff, and, so on. And, I was the one who donated the kidney. Just happened to match, about a one in three thousand chance. You have to be in virtually perfect health to donate. The heart and kidney are "one", in the health sense. Years ago, most doctors thought that dead heart tissue didn't regenerate, but now, they know that it does, but, as far as I know, only with the usual exertion. If you don't push it, well, you won't get this regeneration. Anyway, I've done all sorts and degrees of long distance running. It takes about ten years to become a half-decent runner. So, saw all of this stuff from also the other perspective. Had my own ups and downs, in other ways, enough to know that the "luxuries" you indulge up front will cost you double in back.

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LMR, I know that you mean well, but it just sounds insulting to me. How the fuck do you know what the hell kind of workouts mickey has been undergoing? Shouldn't workouts and exercise for recovery be done in stages? Please give the guy the benefit of doubt will you? I'm sure mickeycrimm is doing everything that he can withstand right now.

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Anyone who knows my history well, as Bill Yung, here, and, Garnabby, elsewhere, knows that I wrote of my partner going through a bypass, many years ago, just after I met her, and, a kidney transplant, about ten years ago. She had what is called one dwarf kidney, and, one pea kidney. Look, the sort of stuff that you can't really know of until you have kidney problems. A lot of people have only one kidney, but, like her, don't find out about it unless something goes wrong. She was a twin, something to do with this, where one of the twins dominated. Anyway, I've been through all of the medical stuff, with her, all of the special dietary stuff, and, so on. And, I was the one who donated the kidney. Just happened to match, about a one in three thousand chance. You have to be in virtually perfect health to donate. The heart and kidney are "one", in the health sense. Years ago, most doctors thought that dead heart tissue didn't regenerate, but now, they know that it does, but, as far as I know, only with the usual exertion. If you don't push it, well, you won't get this regeneration. Anyway, I've done all sorts and degrees of long distance running. It takes about ten years to become a half-decent runner. So, saw all of this stuff from also the other perspective. Had my own ups and downs, in other ways, enough to know that the "luxuries" you indulge up front will cost you double in back.

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Wow, that was a great post that certainly put things into it's proper perspective, coming from your own life experiences. Your partner may not have been the dominating twin but she was fortunate to meet a one in a million individual who is a class act.

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Originally Posted by BoSox

"You have to wonder what the hell you are doing, when it comes down to this.

Dieting doesn't work, pills don't work, wheelchairs don't work, fancy strategies don't work, shrinks don't work - not really. Don't settle for this garbage. Get up, and do something about it. Park those fuckers. Fight back, until you are right again, however long it takes."


LMR, I know that you mean well, but it just sounds insulting to me. How the fuck do you know what the hell kind of workouts mickey has been undergoing? Shouldn't workouts and exersize for recovery be done in stages? Please give the guy the benefit of doubt will you? I'm sure mickeycrimm is doing everything that he can withstand right now.

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I don't normally read LMR but since you quoted him here I took a look to see what he is up to. You know the old saying. When you assume. You make an ass out of u and me. Get it? Ass + u + me = assume. lol!

One of my problems after the heart attack has been shortness of breath. How do you run track when you can't breath? It's gotten better but I still pack around an oxygen concentrator to sleep at night. I can hardly sleep without the oxygen. And the oxygen doesn't improve it that much. I'm taking naps during the day. My doctors have me in the middle of a sleep study. My next night with them I'll be sleeping with a CPAP to see how that works.

I'm 67 years old with a breathing problem and a heart that works at only two-thirds capacity. How much track am I supposed to run to "get back in shape?"

LMR is a young buck in good health that thinks thats the way its always going to be. I'm happy for him. But he will find out on his own that growing old ain't for lightweight pussies. No one escapes time, tide and old age unless they die young.

LMR said it took him ten years running track to get in shape. If I had to bet on whether I will be alive ten years from now, as a highly knowledgeable professional gambler, I would take the under. But I ain't bitchin' about it. I'm doing my best to stay mobile.

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

I had someone run into me with one of those damn things about 2-3 years ago in the Bayou right before they went out of business. Hurt like hell. Those things should be outlawed in highly occupied areas. But hey, whatever it takes I guess.

Would be pretty funny if some other vulture started using tire spikes to keep you off plays:D

You might want to look into some run flats.

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Mine has a top speed of 3.5 MPH. It has a speed control I only use the top speed in the parking lot. I cut the speed way down on the inside. I could have bought a scooter chair with a top speed of 12 MPH and a range of 25 miles before charging but I thought that was overkill.

I seen one idiot going to fast when I was at the casino.

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Congratulations Mickey, can’t keep a good man down when there is a will.

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Yeah, the annals of casino gambling are filled with heros and "good men".

Can't make this shit up.

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Mickey probably is a good guy. Just misled, but he seems like a decent person in many ways. It is funny though the thought of "good guys" hanging out in casinos.

Anyway, I was going to post for Mickey. Cool thread talking about life and such. Takes a bit of bravery to put these sort of things out there. Contrary to what his opinion may be, I'm not out to get him or troll him when his political points don't invite it.

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I had someone run into me with one of those damn things about 2-3 years ago in the Bayou right before they went out of business. Hurt like hell. Those things should be outlawed in highly occupied areas. But hey, whatever it takes I guess.

Would be pretty funny if some other vulture started using tire spikes to keep you off plays:D

You might want to look into some run flats.

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Mine has a top speed of 3.5 MPH. It has a speed control I only use the top speed in the parking lot. I cut the speed way down on the inside. I could have bought a scooter chair with a top speed of 12 MPH and a range of 25 miles before charging but I thought that was overkill.

I seen one idiot going to fast when I was at the casino.

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He wasn't an idiot going to fast, he was calling you out for only being able to do 3.5 mph. He wants to RACE.

Ok..fuck.. I said I wouldn't troll. Dammit.

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Congratulations Mickey, can’t keep a good man down when there is a will.

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Yeah, the annals of casino gambling are filled with heros and "good men".

Can't make this shit up.

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Mickey probably is a good guy. Just misled, but he seems like a decent person in many ways. It is funny though the thought of "good guys" hanging out in casinos.

Anyway, I was going to post for Mickey. Cool thread talking about life and such. Takes a bit of bravery to put these sort of things out there. Contrary to what his opinion may be, I'm not out to get him or troll him when his political points don't invite it.

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Nice post. Seriously.

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LMR, I know that you mean well, but it just sounds insulting to me. How the fuck do you know what the hell kind of workouts mickey has been undergoing? Shouldn't workouts and exercise for recovery be done in stages? Please give the guy the benefit of doubt will you? I'm sure mickeycrimm is doing everything that he can withstand right now.

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Anyone who knows my history well, as Bill Yung, here, and, Garnabby, elsewhere, knows that I wrote of my partner going through a bypass, many years ago, just after I met her, and, a kidney transplant, about ten years ago. She had what is called one dwarf kidney, and, one pea kidney. Look, the sort of stuff that you can't really know of until you have kidney problems. A lot of people have only one kidney, but, like her, don't find out about it unless something goes wrong. She was a twin, something to do with this, where one of the twins dominated. Anyway, I've been through all of the medical stuff, with her, all of the special dietary stuff, and, so on. And, I was the one who donated the kidney. Just happened to match, about a one in three thousand chance. You have to be in virtually perfect health to donate. The heart and kidney are "one", in the health sense. Years ago, most doctors thought that dead heart tissue didn't regenerate, but now, they know that it does, but, as far as I know, only with the usual exertion. If you don't push it, well, you won't get this regeneration. Anyway, I've done all sorts and degrees of long distance running. It takes about ten years to become a half-decent runner. So, saw all of this stuff from also the other perspective. Had my own ups and downs, in other ways, enough to know that the "luxuries" you indulge up front will cost you double in back.

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Wow, that was a great post that certainly put things into a proper perspective, coming from your own life experiences.

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

Cool thread talking about life and such. Takes a bit of bravery to put these sort of things out there.[/QUOTE]

From another thread titled sad news:

Originally Posted by LMR

Don't bring your dead to a sewer like a gambling forum.[/QUOTE]

Reading about your own life story was very pleasing to me, but rather hypercritical of you to bring plenty of personal history to a gambling forum like your above quote. For the record, MidWest Player attached the link on his own without my knowledge period, about my wife passing away. I already knew this type of personal information is not welcomed here.

I don't recall that I wrote that BoSox started a thread about, or he mentioned that, his wife passed away.

As for personal information placed on gambling forums, I draw the line with dead relatives, and fellow posters. Nor am I into wishing harm to others on gambling forums. I'm sure that, on very few occasions, I joked about such, but, specifically, this I don't recall.

I brought up the kidney stuff here, after Alan brought up another fundraiser he was doing. Alan received a kidney, if I recall, over ten years ago. I brought it up, again, after you wondered that I was trying to insult Crimm. Yes, I tried to insult Crimm, on several occasions. If he wants to give up, settle for a glorified wheelchair, this is fine. If Maximal penis bar, and, old Chocolate Monet, enjoy masochistic archaic movies, dieting, etc, attitudes in general, then more "power" to them. Eventually, the nonsense movies, dieting, end, so, then what? Have to face reality and actuality, at some point.

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I don't recall that I wrote that BoSox started a thread about, or he mentioned that, his wife passed away.

As for personal information placed on gambling forums, I draw the line with dead relatives, and fellow posters. Nor am I into wishing harm to others on gambling forums. I'm sure that, on very few occasions, I joked about such, but, specifically, this I don't recall.

I brought up the kidney stuff here, after Alan brought up another fundraiser he was doing. Alan received a kidney, if I recall, over ten years ago. I brought it up, again, after you wondered that I was trying to insult Crimm. Yes, I tried to insult Crimm, on several occasions. If he wants to give up, settle for a glorified wheelchair, this is fine. If Maximal penis bar, and, old Chocolate Monet, enjoy masochistic archaic movies, dieting, etc, attitudes in general, then more "power" to them. Eventually, the nonsense movies, dieting, end, so, then what? Have to face reality and actuality, at some point.

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Ever notice how insults on this forum have the opposite effect desired?

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Originally Posted by The Boz

Congratulations Mickey, can’t keep a good man down when there is a will.

A good lesson for those sitting on their asses bitching about the extra $600 they were getting. As always, and in spite of whatever is going on, opportunities exist for this willing to put the effort in.

Have a great day Mick!

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Thanks, Boz. There's more than one way to skin a cat.

LMR's AKA Onehitwonderwas banned by Druff and is a coward that keeps creating sock puppets to circumvent his bannings. A MAN would take his medicine and disappear. But not the crying little coward, Onehitwonder, LMR, Garnaby, Billyung. This guy has no useful purpose on a gambling forum. I've had him on ignore forever and it was a mistake to take him off to see his frivolous, get his rocks off, trashing of people. Back on ignore he goes and everyone else should do the same. Not one word he writes is worth reading.

This country was built and made great by those who found other ways to get things done in the face of adversity. You can either complain, whine, lie about and concoct a fantasy internet existence like kew disgustingly and continuously does....or use Trump-style common sense to overcome and improve upon any situation.

I was driving by several large farms in the Carson Valley yesterday. It made me realize: Black Cows Matter.

When the Golden Nugget Poker Room reopened in 2004 Eric Drache was able to use his influence to get the Chip & Doyle game under the roof. Their everyday game was 4000-8000 Holdem.

I noticed that Doyle Brunson arrived at the poker room everyday on a motorized wheel chair. And I seen him leave at night on that chair. He was always alone so must have had a van with a chair lift on it. Doyle didn't let his physical limitations keep him from playing poker. And it wasn't a burden on his family for him to get to and from the game.

By using the wheel chair did Doyle give up? Well, he was around 70 years old then. It's 16 years later. He's still alive. He still plays poker. It looks to me like the wheel chair extended his career.

A person on twitter told me that he was looking at the same wheel chair as me to buy for his mother. She's 92 with limited physical mobility. But he said he was hesitant to buy it because he was afraid that if he bought it for her she may quit walking altogether.

Ones physical mobility deteriorates as one gets older. Thats just a natural fact. His mother is never going to go back to the physical mobility she once had.

Buy her the fricking wheelchair so she can have some mobility. And if anyone tells her she is giving up if she uses it. Tell her to tell that person to fuck off.

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LMR's AKA Onehitwonderwas banned by Druff and is a coward that keeps creating sock puppets to circumvent his bannings. A MAN would take his medicine and disappear. But not the crying little coward, Onehitwonder, LMR, Garnaby, Billyung. This guy has no useful purpose on a gambling forum. I've had him on ignore forever and it was a mistake to take him off to see his frivolous, get his rocks off, trashing of people. Back on ignore he goes and everyone else should do the same. Not one word he writes is worth reading.

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He's the only poster on this forum, that's completely useless. Tasha/Nathan even adds more value.

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Originally Posted by LMR

As for personal information placed on gambling forums, I draw the line with dead relatives, and fellow posters. Nor am I into wishing harm to others on gambling forums. I'm sure that, on very few occasions, I joked about such, but, specifically, this I don't recall.

I brought up the kidney stuff here, after Alan brought up another fundraiser he was doing. Alan received a kidney, if I recall, over ten years ago. I brought it up, again, after you wondered that I was trying to insult Crimm. Yes, I tried to insult Crimm, on several occasions. If he wants to give up, settle for a glorified wheelchair, this is fine. If Maximal penis bar, and, old Chocolate Monet, enjoy masochistic archaic movies, dieting, etc, attitudes in general, then more "power" to them. Eventually, the nonsense movies, dieting, end, so, then what? Have to face reality and actuality, at some point.

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That last paragraph is in fact very insulting whether you think so or not. Why do you think that you have all the right answers? Someone may come back at you and say you don't seem so smart considering that you could have saved a kidney if you only went after the dominating twin. Personally I have a lot of respect for what you did do.

If I recall, the first time Dan banned me was after I posted up a small image of a pistol with its barrel pointed toward the user. I called it the AP gun, or something like this. Ha, it didn't matter, anyway, because, in the grand scheme of things, AP's shoot blanks. Maybe, the second time, or before he banned me for the "gun", was after I put Mickey's own words here in my signature line. Something about getting the motherfucker troll on. Dan didn't ban Bill Yung. Alan Mendelson banned at least one of my my user accounts here, after Singer and I pointed out Alan's obvious gambling problem. Alan could and would become livid, off the deep end. If I recall, well, how not to recall, the username Thomas Clines. It's an anagram for slot machines. Alan banned almost anything that moved, back then, including, of course, Crimm. Alan kept talking about comps, which, I guess, Dan took to greater heights. Then a gizillion pages about the two dice problem. Then Alan got his thumb or finger caught in a casino door. One total fuck up after the other. I guess Dan has learned to lighten up, after Alan left the building. Another fuck up.

As far as the twin, she has three brothers, and one sister. Funny how, suddenly, one had a cyst on the kidney, one had jaundice, as a kid, and, the others weren't talking, when it came time to put Michelle on the waiting list for a kidney. I offered to the surgical hospital to get tested as a donor, but, they told me not to bother, They didn't want to test me, because the chance of a match was so slight. So, I went to the family doctor, had the initial appropriated bloodwork done. A week later, the surgical hospital called, for further testing. Beyond this, it was a year and a half of a test or two, each month, to check out all aspects of my health, then, and, going forward. I could tell a bunch of gritty stories about all of this stuff, too, but, frankly, it's all water under the bridge. Incidentally, I kept wondering when, the precise moment, it would "hit" me that I was donating a kidney. Up to the point the surgeon talked to me while the anesthetic set in. It never did.

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I don't recall that I wrote that BoSox started a thread about, or he mentioned that, his wife passed away.

As for personal information placed on gambling forums, I draw the line with dead relatives, and fellow posters. Nor am I into wishing harm to others on gambling forums. I'm sure that, on very few occasions, I joked about such, but, specifically, this I don't recall.

I brought up the kidney stuff here, after Alan brought up another fundraiser he was doing. Alan received a kidney, if I recall, over ten years ago. I brought it up, again, after you wondered that I was trying to insult Crimm. Yes, I tried to insult Crimm, on several occasions. If he wants to give up, settle for a glorified wheelchair, this is fine. If Maximal penis bar, and, old Chocolate Monet, enjoy masochistic archaic movies, dieting, etc, attitudes in general, then more "power" to them. Eventually, the nonsense movies, dieting, end, so, then what? Have to face reality and actuality, at some point.

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Ever notice how insults on this forum have the opposite effect desired?

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Also this helps to tie a few loose ends here together.

I think that it has to do with codependency. "Codependency is a behavioral condition in a relationship where one person enables another person's addiction, poor mental health, immaturity, irresponsibility, or under-achievement. Among the core characteristics of codependency is an excessive reliance on other people for approval and a sense of identity."



The problem with supporting and condoning bad habits. It takes persons within the clique or other group to speak up. Outsiders only tend to (unintentionally) reinforce the individual bad habits of the group. The old cult line about "they" will try to talk you out of it. Well, when someone does, then the cult member feels vindicated in believing the clearly "self-evident" nonsense.

You notice all sorts of wacky beliefs, and assertions all over the gambling and other forums. How often, ever, does anyone from the in-crowd here and there challenge such basic beliefs, from their fellow members? It's so much easier to just call a crock a crock, get off on the right foot, but, people get sucked up into such groups. Psychology is psychology, it wouldn't exist, in the first place, were there any real and actual cure to any such problems.

This was overly evident at the Wizard's forum, all along. To its extent, it became a matter of driving out any and all manner and degree of outside "threat" to the group. Like Trump driving out the scientists from the White House. Members of such groups can't agree on everything, so, they fumble around to try to "reconcile" each other's beliefs, etc. Like, "I agree with your not eating out during the virus, but, you know, you live only once." Just look at the jerkoffs in the food thread here. Everything becomes what shrinks called qualified. Oh, not good, but, at the same good. Before you know it, the members are all "vouching" for each other. Cult equals putting your head in the "sand". Blowing smoke up the ass.

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When someone is "blowing smoke up your arse" today, it is a figure of speech that means that one person is complimenting another, insincerely most of the time, in order to inflate the ego of the individual being flattered.

Back in the late 1700s, however, doctors literally blew smoke up people's rectums. Believe it or not, it was a general mainstream medical procedure used to, among many other things, resuscitate people who were otherwise presumed dead.

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I mean, there's the outrage, the complaints to the owner/admin of the forum. The online attacks. The rumor mill. And, their made-up stories. And so on, all the way to pretending to be the victim, waxing and waning nostalgic, making a big deal of the forum ignore features, and, etc. Years ago on a different forum, I put up a rather detailed list of these steps involved. The same thing over and over. Again, no, it can never change. You see, we evolve back toward the animals. People can't remain people long enough to thusly arrive at something called a truly direct democracy, in the sense that each of us is an informed voter. Evolution passes also people by. The best that can happen, the group winds down, and, then, old "alliances" fall apart, with no outside forces (unintentionally) reinforcing their alliances. It's like talking about "voodoo" and "ploppies" to reinforce what you do, but, never talking about what you really (in theory) and actually (in practice) do do.

Instead of no one, ever, taking responsibility for any real and actual decision, well, every one of us should and ought to. Everything is set up so that no one can, ever, really and actually be held accountable for anything decided by any government. Such persons just can't tell the truth about anything. This gets back to, say, the problem with even civil rights leaders. The distortion of mind and body that goes along with nothing yoyos becoming congressmen just because they got beat up on some shit hole bridge. Right, every one of us has a responsibility, in the course of normal life, to defend, fight for or whatever, the wrongs against us. But, the laziness, cowardliness, profiteering or whatever in each of us always takes over. Ha, even in the casinos, people act like sheep because they, still, "want to get their money back".

I've always maintained that life is the cocksucker, and, death your friend. I mean, only in death is everything resolved, fair or whatever. Fight life, but, embrace death. Someone on a different forum stated that the Devil came from God. But, plus times plus is still plus. Only negative times negative can change sign (to something else). So, maybe, in many ways, maybe, the Devil had it right, all along. We all got too hung up on God or whatever.

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

This country was built and made great by those who found other ways to get things done in the face of adversity. You can either complain, whine, lie about and concoct a fantasy internet existence like kew disgustingly and continuously does....or use Trump-style common sense to overcome and improve upon any situation.

I was driving by several large farms in the Carson Valley yesterday. It made me realize: Black Cows Matter.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tr3E5vz0ADs

I will have to admit, his penmanship is better than mine.

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I don't care where you stand on this, it's funny because it actually looks like something he would do. LOL!

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I don't care where you stand on this, it's funny because it actually looks like something he would do. LOL!

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Kind of like extended UC benefits, a moratorium on evictions, removing the payroll tax and delaying student loan payments.

But we all know the liberals will take issue with it.

The same Idaho casino sent me 2X 200 freeplay for August. The first $200 has to be used by the 15th so I won't be able to cash it. But I will make a late in the month trip over for the 2nd $200. Time to bust the wheelchair out again. It's been sitting in the trunk since my last time over. I'm looking forward to jetting around on the plays.

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The same Idaho casino sent me 2X 200 freeplay for August. The first $200 has to be used by the 15th so I won't be able to cash it. But I will make a late in the month trip over for the 2nd $200. Time to bust the wheelchair out again. It's been sitting in the trunk since my last time over. I'm looking forward to jetting around on the plays.

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Sounds like getting there just before midnight, on the 15th might be worth it. Then again it's only 200. I would go out of my way considerably for 1000 or more.

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I don't care where you stand on this, it's funny because it actually looks like something he would do. LOL!

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Something tells me sling is in for another Martha Radatz-style World of Hurt! come election night.....Four years ago it was a B-E-A-U-T-I-F-U-L thing to watch, as CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, RINO's, anti-Trumpers, the racist and corrupt OBAMA's, and especially incompetent and pathological liar Hillary Clinton and her pathetic election crew all watched in shock as the true America spoke loud and clear.

Oh my.....WHAT will they do this time around? Mass Suicides would be very, very acceptable :)

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Something tells me sling is in for another Martha Radatz-style World of Hurt! come election night.....Four years ago it was a B-E-A-U-T-I-F-U-L thing to watch, as CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, RINO's, anti-Trumpers, the racist and corrupt OBAMA's, and especially incompetent and pathological liar Hillary Clinton and her pathetic election crew all watched in shock as the true America spoke loud and clear.

Oh my.....WHAT will they do this time around? Mass Suicides would be very, very acceptable :)

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LOL ----- After 2020 Trump win, imagine what they would do if 2024 Ivanka Trump our first woman president won !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Something tells me sling is in for another Martha Radatz-style World of Hurt! come election night.....Four years ago it was a B-E-A-U-T-I-F-U-L thing to watch, as CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, RINO's, anti-Trumpers, the racist and corrupt OBAMA's, and especially incompetent and pathological liar Hillary Clinton and her pathetic election crew all watched in shock as the true America spoke loud and clear.

Oh my.....WHAT will they do this time around? Mass Suicides would be very, very acceptable :)

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LOL ----- After 2020 Trump win, imagine what they would do if 2024 Ivanka Trump our first woman president won !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I completely agree 2020 Donald win, but 2024 Ivanka, I'll pass on first woman president. Republicans all the way, just no female.

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I don't care where you stand on this, it's funny because it actually looks like something he would do. LOL!

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Something tells me sling is in for another Martha Radatz-style World of Hurt! come election night.....Four years ago it was a B-E-A-U-T-I-F-U-L thing to watch, as CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, RINO's, anti-Trumpers, the racist and corrupt OBAMA's, and especially incompetent and pathological liar Hillary Clinton and her pathetic election crew all watched in shock as the true America spoke loud and clear.

Oh my.....WHAT will they do this time around? Mass Suicides would be very, very acceptable :)

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Well, suicide won't be my thing. If THIS pathological liar wins I won't have to-I'll accept the consequences and hope for the best. I'll have to admit they were smart to avoid a stimulus package so it would appear Trump became a great savior so as to save his ass by seeming to create solutions from preplanned stalling for 13 weeks. So after a day of golf everything is fine!

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The same Idaho casino sent me 2X 200 freeplay for August. The first $200 has to be used by the 15th so I won't be able to cash it. But I will make a late in the month trip over for the 2nd $200. Time to bust the wheelchair out again. It's been sitting in the trunk since my last time over. I'm looking forward to jetting around on the plays.

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Sounds like getting there just before midnight, on the 15th might be worth it. Then again it's only 200. I would go out of my way considerably for 1000 or more.

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I've got Doctors appointments standing in the way of being there the 15th. And the 2nd part of the freeplay has to be cashed on the last two days of the month.

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I don't care where you stand on this, it's funny because it actually looks like something he would do. LOL!

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Something tells me sling is in for another Martha Radatz-style World of Hurt! come election night.....Four years ago it was a B-E-A-U-T-I-F-U-L thing to watch, as CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, RINO's, anti-Trumpers, the racist and corrupt OBAMA's, and especially incompetent and pathological liar Hillary Clinton and her pathetic election crew all watched in shock as the true America spoke loud and clear.

Oh my.....WHAT will they do this time around? Mass Suicides would be very, very acceptable :)

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Well, suicide won't be my thing. If THIS pathological liar wins I won't have to-I'll accept the consequences and hope for the best. I'll have to admit they were smart to avoid a stimulus package so it would appear Trump became a great savior so as to save his ass by seeming to create solutions from preplanned stalling for 13 weeks. So after a day of golf everything is fine!

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Obama set the record for recreational days off while president. His record is so high it can't be broken. Trump is the hardest working president of my lifetime.

Sling, the intellectual dishonesty of you lefties is stunning. If Trump makes you so mad that you would vote democrat you never were a conservative to start with.

The violence in the big cities was not spontaneously created by protestors demonstrating against police brutality. It is totally orchestrated by the hard left who have broken ranks with run of the mill liberals. The lust for power of the hard left has caused them to go violent. They've grown impatient in trying to create their socialist utopian dream. They think violence will do the trick. But take a look at all those big city dwellers now protesting against defunding the cops. These are not conservative people. They are run of the mill liberals and they are fed up with the violence. Who do you think is going to benefit from all of this on election day? It won't be Hidin' Biden.

PS: You have tunnel vision. Trump's lies pale in comparison to the monumental and prolific lies of the dems.

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Something tells me sling is in for another Martha Radatz-style World of Hurt! come election night.....Four years ago it was a B-E-A-U-T-I-F-U-L thing to watch, as CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, RINO's, anti-Trumpers, the racist and corrupt OBAMA's, and especially incompetent and pathological liar Hillary Clinton and her pathetic election crew all watched in shock as the true America spoke loud and clear.

Oh my.....WHAT will they do this time around? Mass Suicides would be very, very acceptable :)

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Well, suicide won't be my thing. If THIS pathological liar wins I won't have to-I'll accept the consequences and hope for the best. I'll have to admit they were smart to avoid a stimulus package so it would appear Trump became a great savior so as to save his ass by seeming to create solutions from preplanned stalling for 13 weeks. So after a day of golf everything is fine!

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Obama set the record for recreational days off while president. His record is so high it can't be broken. Trump is the hardest working president of my lifetime.

Sling, the intellectual dishonesty of you lefties is stunning. If Trump makes you so mad that you would vote democrat you never were a conservative to start with.

The violence in the big cities was not spontaneously created by protestors demonstrating against police brutality. It is totally orchestrated by the hard left who have broken ranks with run of the mill liberals. The lust for power of the hard left has caused them to go violent. They've grown impatient in trying to create their socialist utopian dream. They think violence will do the trick. But take a look at all those big city dwellers now protesting against defunding the cops. These are not conservative people. They are run of the mill liberals and they are fed up with the violence. Who do you think is going to benefit from all of this on election day? It won't be Hidin' Biden.

PS: You have tunnel vision. Trump's lies pale in comparison to the monumental and prolific lies of the dems.

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Glad you agree Trump is a liar. Hopefully someone like a Bolton will quit being a pussy and verify what I see as intentional delay of stimulus headed by Trump to make Congress look like the culprits so he can swoop in as MAGA MAN and save the day. Sure I'm a little weird, but it fits his style.

Don't fret sling--ALL never-Trumpers are weird.

All the nonsense now is sooo worth it. It just makes Trump's coming re-election that much more satisfying, as he once again breaks the hearts--and minds--of every libtard, pussified girly-men, homos, and totally misguided weirdos in the country.

Can't wait!!

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Well, suicide won't be my thing. If THIS pathological liar wins I won't have to-I'll accept the consequences and hope for the best. I'll have to admit they were smart to avoid a stimulus package so it would appear Trump became a great savior so as to save his ass by seeming to create solutions from preplanned stalling for 13 weeks. So after a day of golf everything is fine!

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Obama set the record for recreational days off while president. His record is so high it can't be broken. Trump is the hardest working president of my lifetime.

Sling, the intellectual dishonesty of you lefties is stunning. If Trump makes you so mad that you would vote democrat you never were a conservative to start with.

The violence in the big cities was not spontaneously created by protestors demonstrating against police brutality. It is totally orchestrated by the hard left who have broken ranks with run of the mill liberals. The lust for power of the hard left has caused them to go violent. They've grown impatient in trying to create their socialist utopian dream. They think violence will do the trick. But take a look at all those big city dwellers now protesting against defunding the cops. These are not conservative people. They are run of the mill liberals and they are fed up with the violence. Who do you think is going to benefit from all of this on election day? It won't be Hidin' Biden.

PS: You have tunnel vision. Trump's lies pale in comparison to the monumental and prolific lies of the dems.

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Glad you agree Trump is a liar. Hopefully someone like a Bolton will quit being a pussy and verify what I see as intentional delay of stimulus headed by Trump to make Congress look like the culprits so he can swoop in as MAGA MAN and save the day. Sure I'm a little weird, but it fits his style.

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All politicians are liars. That means the dems you love so much are liars. But you never point out their lies. What's up with that? Bolton is a lying weasal. He fabricated lies on Trump to sell books. Only dimwits think he has any credibility.

Where you are totally off the wall is who is delaying the stimulus. Your precious socialist whack job dems are the ones holding out. Damn dude. Wake up and smell the coffee.

While I knew some of the results, I decided to spend some time reviewing data over the last 45 years regarding US Presidents and their acknowledged vacation days. I first utilized Wikipedia, but then read about 8 to 10 articles covering this subject. Wikipedia gave a broad range for both Presidents Clinton and Reagan, but I will use use the higher number for both individual as additional articles supported the higher number. The numbers are based as if each President served two terms, 8 years. Remember, an average worker has weekends off (104 days) and approximately ten federal holidays. Over 8 years, that number is 912 days. Here are the results based on most vacation days listed first:

Elder Bush 1,086, Younger Bush, 1,020, Reagan 866, Trump 632, Clinton 345, Obama 328, and Carter 158.

I always believed Jimmy Carter was the hardest working ex-President, specifically working with Habitat for Humanity. While he may not be viewed as a successful President, no one outworked him while in office.

As for golfing, Trump averages 87 rounds/year and Obama averaged 42 rounds/year. There is actually a website that monitors this: https://presidentialgolftracker.com/

For me, the success of a President ties into the people he surrounds himself with, not the time spent working. Still, reviewing these numbers was interesting.

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While I knew some of the results, I decided to spend some time reviewing data over the last 45 years regarding US Presidents and their acknowledged vacation days. I first utilized Wikipedia, but then read about 8 to 10 articles covering this subject. Wikipedia gave a broad range for both Presidents Clinton and Reagan, but I will use use the higher number for both individual as additional articles supported the higher number. The numbers are based as if each President served two terms, 8 years. Remember, an average worker has weekends off (104 days) and approximately ten federal holidays. Over 8 years, that number is 912 days. Here are the results based on most vacation days listed first:

Elder Bush 1,086, Younger Bush, 1,020, Reagan 866, Trump 632, Clinton 345, Obama 328, and Carter 158.

I always believed Jimmy Carter was the hardest working ex-President, specifically working with Habitat for Humanity. While he may not be viewed as a successful President, no one outworked him while in office.

As for golfing, Trump averages 87 rounds/year and Obama averaged 42 rounds/year. There is actually a website that monitors this: https://presidentialgolftracker.com/

For me, the success of a President ties into the people he surrounds himself with, not the time spent working. Still, reviewing these numbers was interesting.

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One such person was Peter Navarro. Watching him on Face the Nation was hilarious. He was actually using the very words Mickey and Rob were using and I almost accused them of using his words. At First I was upset with Todd for only calling him out on two statements, but then I decided it was better to just let him rant on. It got funnier and more bizarre the more he talked.

Not sure about the Reagan 866 number. Every online article I look at states 335.

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I am somewhat tempted to believe this, based on the fact that Reagan had one of his addresses changed.

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Maybe, he vacationed two additional days, so that it wouldn't be 333.

https://www.cheatsheet.com/culture/w...ld-trump.html/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...mments-wrapper

At the end of this last article are 666 comments. At least the first few are hilarious.

I try to stay down the center path. Both Presidential individuals are making word gaffs. Within the last 24 hours Trump stated that the 1917 Spanish Flu effectively ended World War !!. The flu basically covered the years 1918 and 1919. Yes, it could have ended World War ! but not World War !!.

The latest from a WH spokesman is whether Harris called Biden a racist during a debate. It will be interesting how this accusation pans out. Never a dull moment regarding both sides.

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I try to stay down the center path. Both Presidential individuals are making word gaffs. Within the last 24 hours Trump stated that the 1917 Spanish Flu effectively ended World War !!. The flu basically covered the years 1918 and 1919. Yes, it could have ended World War ! but not World War !!.

The latest from a WH spokesman is whether Harris called Biden a racist during a debate. It will be interesting how this accusation pans out. Never a dull moment regarding both sides.

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Yeah-my son argued with me in 2016 for voting for Trump as the "lesser of two evils." Now this year presents more of the same. I cringe for our nation.

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I try to stay down the center path. Both Presidential individuals are making word gaffs. Within the last 24 hours Trump stated that the 1917 Spanish Flu effectively ended World War !!. The flu basically covered the years 1918 and 1919. Yes, it could have ended World War ! but not World War !!.

The latest from a WH spokesman is whether Harris called Biden a racist during a debate. It will be interesting how this accusation pans out. Never a dull moment regarding both sides.

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Yeah-my son argued with me in 2016 for voting for Trump as the "lesser of two evils." Now this year presents more of the same. I cringe for our nation.

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Sling, you are stuck on stupid.

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While I knew some of the results, I decided to spend some time reviewing data over the last 45 years regarding US Presidents and their acknowledged vacation days. I first utilized Wikipedia, but then read about 8 to 10 articles covering this subject. Wikipedia gave a broad range for both Presidents Clinton and Reagan, but I will use use the higher number for both individual as additional articles supported the higher number. The numbers are based as if each President served two terms, 8 years. Remember, an average worker has weekends off (104 days) and approximately ten federal holidays. Over 8 years, that number is 912 days. Here are the results based on most vacation days listed first:

Elder Bush 1,086, Younger Bush, 1,020, Reagan 866, Trump 632, Clinton 345, Obama 328, and Carter 158.

I always believed Jimmy Carter was the hardest working ex-President, specifically working with Habitat for Humanity. While he may not be viewed as a successful President, no one outworked him while in office.

As for golfing, Trump averages 87 rounds/year and Obama averaged 42 rounds/year. There is actually a website that monitors this: https://presidentialgolftracker.com/

For me, the success of a President ties into the people he surrounds himself with, not the time spent working. Still, reviewing these numbers was interesting.

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Obama was out playing basketball 300 days a year.

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The Spanish flu, also known as the 1918 flu pandemic, was an unusually deadly influenza pandemic caused by the H1N1 influenza A virus. Lasting from February 1918 to April 1920, it infected 500 million people–about a third of the world's population at the time–in four successive waves.

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A massive flu pandemic is known to have caused tens of millions of deaths worldwide in 1918 and 1919, not 1917; there has been some research suggesting this flu was circulating in 1917, but it caused its vast destruction in the two following years. Regardless, this pandemic obviously did not end the "Second World War," which occurred from 1939 to 1945; it did sicken soldiers during the final year of World War I.

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The 1918 influenza virus's style of killing was unlike that seen for most other influenza strains known. Airborne, it was highly infectious, causing illness in 50 percent or more of those exposed to it, and its morbidity and mortality rates were peculiar, too: it had an estimated mortality rate of 20 percent, whereas other strains of influenza normally kill just 0.1 percent of their victims. Its patterns of lethality were unique, preferentially killing healthy young people between 20 and 40 years of age whilst leaving older people relatively unharmed. Additionally, it was an especially efficient killer of pregnant women, whose mortality rate ranged between 23 and 71 percent.

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I try to stay down the center path. Both Presidential individuals are making word gaffs. Within the last 24 hours Trump stated that the 1917 Spanish Flu effectively ended World War !!. The flu basically covered the years 1918 and 1919. Yes, it could have ended World War ! but not World War !!.

The latest from a WH spokesman is whether Harris called Biden a racist during a debate. It will be interesting how this accusation pans out. Never a dull moment regarding both sides.

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It was an obvious verbal slip. Everyone knows he was talking about WW 1. Jeez, what's up with you guys? The slightest little thing. And Trump is screwing off playing golf all the time? The dude holds a press conference a day. Hardest working president I've ever seen. And he's gotten a shit ton of stuff done too. You might not support it but he's gotten a lot done.

If you guys elect China Joe Biden then the Chi-Comm's are going to start back up fucking us all up the ass with steel wool. Hidin' Biden will make the best president China ever had.

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I try to stay down the center path. Both Presidential individuals are making word gaffs. Within the last 24 hours Trump stated that the 1917 Spanish Flu effectively ended World War !!. The flu basically covered the years 1918 and 1919. Yes, it could have ended World War ! but not World War !!.

The latest from a WH spokesman is whether Harris called Biden a racist during a debate. It will be interesting how this accusation pans out. Never a dull moment regarding both sides.

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Yeah-my son argued with me in 2016 for voting for Trump as the "lesser of two evils." Now this year presents more of the same. I cringe for our nation.

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Sling, you are stuck on stupid.

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No, some days I surprise myself! After all, a broken clock is on the money twice a day.

Trump sleeps an avg. of 4 hours a night because he knows the country needs someone who cares about it 110 percent and not 50 like Obama. The guy works harder than a sports handicapping-scammer desperately trying to sell picks. Can anybody even begin to image Hiden' Biden trying to wake up at 4am while expecting to get a solid ten every night?

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Yeah-my son argued with me in 2016 for voting for Trump as the "lesser of two evils." Now this year presents more of the same. I cringe for our nation.

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Sling, you are stuck on stupid.

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No, some days I surprise myself! After all, a broken clock is on the money twice a day.

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The "lesser of two evils"? Are you insane? Do you have a 401k or any market investments? Have you watched them grow since the "evil Trump" was elected?

Now we'll hear "oh the guy's rude, crude and irreverent" or "he acts like he's a king". Who gives a f*** about that stuff? If he wants to give you Manhattan, you don't take Staten. And if he wants to keep Law and Order as the cornerstone of the land, you don't allow weirdos to roam the streets every night in big libtard-run cities. You bust heads.

Wise up sling.

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No, some days I surprise myself! After all, a broken clock is on the money twice a day.

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The "lesser of two evils"? Are you insane? Do you have a 401k or any market investments? Have you watched them grow since the "evil Trump" was elected?

Now we'll hear "oh the guy's rude, crude and irreverent" or "he acts like he's a king". Who gives a f*** about that stuff? If he wants to give you Manhattan, you don't take Staten. And if he wants to keep Law and Order as the cornerstone of the land, you don't allow weirdos to roam the streets every night in big libtard-run cities. You bust heads.

Wise up sling.

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Spot on Rob...too many people, including some relatives and close friends of mine, focus on his personality and behavior instead of the bottom line. Although I agree he does himself zero favors with the stupid shit he says on Twitter and elsewhere, he was never brought up as a professional politician to begin with....all I know is that my retirement accounts thank him and have just gotten fatter and fatter

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No, some days I surprise myself! After all, a broken clock is on the money twice a day.

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The "lesser of two evils"? Are you insane? Do you have a 401k or any market investments? Have you watched them grow since the "evil Trump" was elected?

Now we'll hear "oh the guy's rude, crude and irreverent" or "he acts like he's a king". Who gives a f*** about that stuff? If he wants to give you Manhattan, you don't take Staten. And if he wants to keep Law and Order as the cornerstone of the land, you don't allow weirdos to roam the streets every night in big libtard-run cities. You bust heads.

Wise up sling.

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Spot on Rob...too many people, including some relatives and close friends of mine, focus on his personality and behavior instead of the bottom line. Although I agree he does himself zero favors with the stupid shit he says on Twitter and elsewhere, he was never brought up as a professional politician to begin with....all I know is that my retirement accounts thank him and have just gotten fatter and fatter

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You both hit it on the head. But here is the issue, far too many losers never saved a dime and have no vested interest as we do in being rewarded for our hard work. And worse yet, the are jealous and hate seeing the market go up.

They are full of excuses for why they saved nothing, yet in most cases a simple look shows all you need to know. They always had the newest cars, the fanciest clothes and accessories, newest electronics and so much more. I’m 55 and have been fortunate enough to have saved since my early 80’s through the greatest stock market gains in history. For the most part I am in mutual funds and don’t gamble with individual stocks, though I have as my assets grew. With this years hoax, I have been through 4 major corrections and have gotten everything back every time.

The old adage is people vote their own best financial interest come election time. I hope that is true again, but you have to be worried with the amount of irresponsible people out there just looking for a handout and a do over for a lifetime of failures and bad choices.

Dow Jones - 10 Year Daily Chart

https://www.macrotrends.net/1358/dow...-last-10-years

Trump put all of his "eggs" into one basket. No wonder that all he could do was maintain the trend. Anyway, is the market supposed to depend on current leaders?

If you guys are like Crimm and Singer, with also the baloney, then very likely you, either, have the proverbial pot to piss in. Sounds like overcompensating from a bunch of morons.

Well, we know that Crimm and Singer are morons, so, surely Bozo bar, and Keystoner can't be far behind. Keep your drinks close, gentleman. Something to get you through your old age. Ha.

I had a response typed up a few hours ago and now I have to update it. I agree with all three comments from Sling, Rob, and LMR

Sling - The President's behavior is abhorrent. He is an individual that rarely, if ever, admits mistakes. Lost too many cabinet members. Resents and sometimes takes revenge on fellow Republicans that disagree with him. Goes off script and makes unique comments that make no sense. If I was an employee, I would have a difficult time working for him. If I was in business, I would have a difficult time selling to him (bankruptcies). Do you want your daughter marrying an individual similar to him (excluding the money)? I believe COVID, economy, unemployment, and the polls have sent his personality to a new extreme.

Rob - Like Rob, for the most part I live off my 401K. The President's job is to perform and not be soft. The market has done well. He has forced other countries to pay their fair share in various organizations (United Nations, etc.). He tried to work with China and North Korea. He is forcing US companies to bring back their foreign manufacturing business back home. He tried to implement tariffs on unequal trade relations. Both Boz and Keystone have agreed that you have to get past the personality. If not for COVID, Trump might have had a slight lead in the polls. Four years ago, America wanted change. Those who are older and were fortunate to put money aside, have been rewarded.

LMR - Does a President, as an individual or member of a certain party have influence on the stock market? Some believe that Republicans are more fiscally response and more friendly to big business which relates well to Wall Street. If Biden becomes President will the recent market surge stop? Is it because he is a Democrat and/or because he will likely raise taxes on higher income individuals? Six months ago I addressed comments made here about how much better Trump has done influencing the market than Obama. Granted Obama came in after a horrible 2008. COVID has impacted 2020. If you take the first 36 months of Obama 1, Obama 2, and Trump (purposely stopping at January 31st to keep COVID out of the equation) the Dow Jones collective increase was 53%, 14.5%, and 33.5%. The S&P 500 numbers were 51%, 24%, and 33%. If you add February, March, April, and May 2020 Obama 1 numbers stay the same but Obama 2 numbers increase tremendously and Trumps' fall behind Obama 2. It is not fair for any President to experience a pandemic, but these numbers do support much of what LMR states.

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I had a response typed up a few hours ago and now I have to update it. I agree with all three comments from Sling, Rob, and LMR

Sling - The President's behavior is abhorrent. He is an individual that rarely, if ever, admits mistakes. Lost too many cabinet members. Resents and sometimes takes revenge on fellow Republicans that disagree with him. Goes off script and makes unique comments that make no sense. If I was an employee, I would have a difficult time working for him. If I was in business, I would have a difficult time selling to him (bankruptcies). Do you want your daughter marrying an individual similar to him (excluding the money)? I believe COVID, economy, unemployment, and the polls have sent his personality to a new extreme.

Rob - Like Rob, for the most part I live off my 401K. The President's job is to perform and not be soft. The market has done well. He has forced other countries to pay their fair share in various organizations (United Nations, etc.). He tried to work with China and North Korea. He is forcing US companies to bring back their foreign manufacturing business back home. He tried to implement tariffs on unequal trade relations. Both Boz and Keystone have agreed that you have to get past the personality. If not for COVID, Trump might have had a slight lead in the polls. Four years ago, America wanted change. Those who are older and were fortunate to put money aside, have been rewarded.

LMR - Does a President, as an individual or member of a certain party have influence on the stock market? Some believe that Republicans are more fiscally response and more friendly to big business which relates well to Wall Street. If Biden becomes President will the recent market surge stop? Is it because he is a Democrat and/or because he will likely raise taxes on higher income individuals? Six months ago I addressed comments made here about how much better Trump has done influencing the market than Obama. Granted Obama came in after a horrible 2008. COVID has impacted 2020. If you take the first 36 months of Obama 1, Obama 2, and Trump (purposely stopping at January 31st to keep COVID out of the equation) the Dow Jones collective increase was 53%, 14.5%, and 33.5%. The S&P 500 numbers were 51%, 24%, and 33%. If you add February, March, April, and May 2020 Obama 1 numbers stay the same but Obama 2 numbers increase tremendously and Trumps' fall behind Obama 2. It is not fair for any President to experience a pandemic, but these numbers do support much of what LMR states.

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If I may reply one last time since you hit the crux of the matter. Trump has taken EVERYTHING America stands for and what I voted for to hide behind to secure his nomination. Tear gassing a crowd so he could pose with a Bible in front of a church was the ultimate of hypocrisy and exposure of his true intentions. Over and out.

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Dow Jones - 10 Year Daily Chart

https://www.macrotrends.net/1358/dow...-last-10-years

Trump put all of his "eggs" into one basket. No wonder that all he could do was maintain the trend. Anyway, is the market supposed to depend on current leaders?

If you guys are like Crimm and Singer, with also the baloney, then very likely you, either, have the proverbial pot to piss in. Sounds like overcompensating from a bunch of morons.

Well, we know that Crimm and Singer are morons, so, surely Bozo bar, and Keystoner can't be far behind. Keep your drinks close, gentleman. Something to get you through your old age. Ha.

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When a fucking weirdo on medication like this clown above thinks I`m a moron, it tells me my thought process is right where it should be :)

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I had a response typed up a few hours ago and now I have to update it. I agree with all three comments from Sling, Rob, and LMR

Sling - The President's behavior is abhorrent. He is an individual that rarely, if ever, admits mistakes. Lost too many cabinet members. Resents and sometimes takes revenge on fellow Republicans that disagree with him. Goes off script and makes unique comments that make no sense. If I was an employee, I would have a difficult time working for him. If I was in business, I would have a difficult time selling to him (bankruptcies). Do you want your daughter marrying an individual similar to him (excluding the money)? I believe COVID, economy, unemployment, and the polls have sent his personality to a new extreme.

Rob - Like Rob, for the most part I live off my 401K. The President's job is to perform and not be soft. The market has done well. He has forced other countries to pay their fair share in various organizations (United Nations, etc.). He tried to work with China and North Korea. He is forcing US companies to bring back their foreign manufacturing business back home. He tried to implement tariffs on unequal trade relations. Both Boz and Keystone have agreed that you have to get past the personality. If not for COVID, Trump might have had a slight lead in the polls. Four years ago, America wanted change. Those who are older and were fortunate to put money aside, have been rewarded.

LMR - Does a President, as an individual or member of a certain party have influence on the stock market? Some believe that Republicans are more fiscally response and more friendly to big business which relates well to Wall Street. If Biden becomes President will the recent market surge stop? Is it because he is a Democrat and/or because he will likely raise taxes on higher income individuals? Six months ago I addressed comments made here about how much better Trump has done influencing the market than Obama. Granted Obama came in after a horrible 2008. COVID has impacted 2020. If you take the first 36 months of Obama 1, Obama 2, and Trump (purposely stopping at January 31st to keep COVID out of the equation) the Dow Jones collective increase was 53%, 14.5%, and 33.5%. The S&P 500 numbers were 51%, 24%, and 33%. If you add February, March, April, and May 2020 Obama 1 numbers stay the same but Obama 2 numbers increase tremendously and Trumps' fall behind Obama 2. It is not fair for any President to experience a pandemic, but these numbers do support much of what LMR states.

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If I may reply one last time since you hit the crux of the matter. Trump has taken EVERYTHING America stands for and what I voted for to hide behind to secure his nomination. Tear gassing a crowd so he could pose with a Bible in front of a church was the ultimate of hypocrisy and exposure of his true intentions. Over and out.

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Sling, you are braindead. You haven't said one word about the criminals trying to burn that Church down. They are lucky they got off just being tear gassed to get rid of them. They should have been shot. I would tell you that you need to correct your thinking but the problem is you can't fix stupid.

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Dow Jones - 10 Year Daily Chart

https://www.macrotrends.net/1358/dow...-last-10-years

Trump put all of his "eggs" into one basket. No wonder that all he could do was maintain the trend. Anyway, is the market supposed to depend on current leaders?

If you guys are like Crimm and Singer, with also the baloney, then very likely you, either, have the proverbial pot to piss in. Sounds like overcompensating from a bunch of morons.

Well, we know that Crimm and Singer are morons, so, surely Bozo bar, and Keystoner can't be far behind. Keep your drinks close, gentleman. Something to get you through your old age. Ha.

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When a fucking weirdo on medication like this clown above thinks I`m a moron, it tells me my thought process is right where it should be :)

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Keystoner is too good of a name for such a bore ass loser. Crimm isn't a moron but he definitely loves his man Trump.

LMR is great for this site. You have to wonder what the person behind this account is? Everyone else you can more or less figure out. LMR is a total wild card though. The fact he has Crimm bugging Dan Druff on the daily for the ban-hammer is epic lolz. I asked Dan to ban Singer at one point but now I've realized it was simply jealousy over the fact Singer owns such a bad-ass Newell. I accept these facts, just like I've accepted that I live in my parent's basement. LMR doesn't really even say that that much - not really excessively nasty or anything. Not like Singer going after KJ relentlessly.

LMR though is lol in his own class. I'm not saying he makes sense but he isn't exactly nonsensical either. Might be a genius of some sort, might just need some medications. Regardless, much like Tasha he actually helps this board which is pretty much either looney wingnut stuff, why WOV is bad, or on the rare occasion something relevant to life.

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I had a response typed up a few hours ago and now I have to update it. I agree with all three comments from Sling, Rob, and LMR

Sling - The President's behavior is abhorrent. He is an individual that rarely, if ever, admits mistakes. Lost too many cabinet members. Resents and sometimes takes revenge on fellow Republicans that disagree with him. Goes off script and makes unique comments that make no sense. If I was an employee, I would have a difficult time working for him. If I was in business, I would have a difficult time selling to him (bankruptcies). Do you want your daughter marrying an individual similar to him (excluding the money)? I believe COVID, economy, unemployment, and the polls have sent his personality to a new extreme.

Rob - Like Rob, for the most part I live off my 401K. The President's job is to perform and not be soft. The market has done well. He has forced other countries to pay their fair share in various organizations (United Nations, etc.). He tried to work with China and North Korea. He is forcing US companies to bring back their foreign manufacturing business back home. He tried to implement tariffs on unequal trade relations. Both Boz and Keystone have agreed that you have to get past the personality. If not for COVID, Trump might have had a slight lead in the polls. Four years ago, America wanted change. Those who are older and were fortunate to put money aside, have been rewarded.

LMR - Does a President, as an individual or member of a certain party have influence on the stock market? Some believe that Republicans are more fiscally response and more friendly to big business which relates well to Wall Street. If Biden becomes President will the recent market surge stop? Is it because he is a Democrat and/or because he will likely raise taxes on higher income individuals? Six months ago I addressed comments made here about how much better Trump has done influencing the market than Obama. Granted Obama came in after a horrible 2008. COVID has impacted 2020. If you take the first 36 months of Obama 1, Obama 2, and Trump (purposely stopping at January 31st to keep COVID out of the equation) the Dow Jones collective increase was 53%, 14.5%, and 33.5%. The S&P 500 numbers were 51%, 24%, and 33%. If you add February, March, April, and May 2020 Obama 1 numbers stay the same but Obama 2 numbers increase tremendously and Trumps' fall behind Obama 2. It is not fair for any President to experience a pandemic, but these numbers do support much of what LMR states.

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If I may reply one last time since you hit the crux of the matter. Trump has taken EVERYTHING America stands for and what I voted for to hide behind to secure his nomination. Tear gassing a crowd so he could pose with a Bible in front of a church was the ultimate of hypocrisy and exposure of his true intentions. Over and out.

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Sling, you are braindead. You haven't said one word about the criminals trying to burn that Church down. They are lucky they got off just being tear gassed to get rid of them. They should have been shot. I would tell you that you need to correct your thinking but the problem is you can't fix stupid.

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LMAO maybe I am wrong. Maybe Crimm is a moron. Why does he defend everything Trump does? How did Trump get his hand so far up Mick's asshole? Straight fucking puppet.

This is where people lose their credibility. There comes a time where you at least stand against SOME of what Trump has done.

Literally the most value Crimm brings is he allows me to be plugged directly into the mainline of the mindset from right-wing topdown thought control. Apparently, it now has been rewritten in some circles that Trump apparently gassed some people who were BURNING THE CHURCH DOWN. One presumes - he did this to save the church. Oh my lolz.

Anyway, the above reality couldn't be further from the truth and I believe some of the clergy who were there at the church have a differing opinion on their being tear-gassed.

But to each his own....

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I had a response typed up a few hours ago and now I have to update it. I agree with all three comments from Sling, Rob, and LMR

Sling - The President's behavior is abhorrent. He is an individual that rarely, if ever, admits mistakes. Lost too many cabinet members. Resents and sometimes takes revenge on fellow Republicans that disagree with him. Goes off script and makes unique comments that make no sense. If I was an employee, I would have a difficult time working for him. If I was in business, I would have a difficult time selling to him (bankruptcies). Do you want your daughter marrying an individual similar to him (excluding the money)? I believe COVID, economy, unemployment, and the polls have sent his personality to a new extreme.

Rob - Like Rob, for the most part I live off my 401K. The President's job is to perform and not be soft. The market has done well. He has forced other countries to pay their fair share in various organizations (United Nations, etc.). He tried to work with China and North Korea. He is forcing US companies to bring back their foreign manufacturing business back home. He tried to implement tariffs on unequal trade relations. Both Boz and Keystone have agreed that you have to get past the personality. If not for COVID, Trump might have had a slight lead in the polls. Four years ago, America wanted change. Those who are older and were fortunate to put money aside, have been rewarded.

LMR - Does a President, as an individual or member of a certain party have influence on the stock market? Some believe that Republicans are more fiscally response and more friendly to big business which relates well to Wall Street. If Biden becomes President will the recent market surge stop? Is it because he is a Democrat and/or because he will likely raise taxes on higher income individuals? Six months ago I addressed comments made here about how much better Trump has done influencing the market than Obama. Granted Obama came in after a horrible 2008. COVID has impacted 2020. If you take the first 36 months of Obama 1, Obama 2, and Trump (purposely stopping at January 31st to keep COVID out of the equation) the Dow Jones collective increase was 53%, 14.5%, and 33.5%. The S&P 500 numbers were 51%, 24%, and 33%. If you add February, March, April, and May 2020 Obama 1 numbers stay the same but Obama 2 numbers increase tremendously and Trumps' fall behind Obama 2. It is not fair for any President to experience a pandemic, but these numbers do support much of what LMR states.

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If I may reply one last time since you hit the crux of the matter. Trump has taken EVERYTHING America stands for and what I voted for to hide behind to secure his nomination. Tear gassing a crowd so he could pose with a Bible in front of a church was the ultimate of hypocrisy and exposure of his true intentions. Over and out.

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Sling, you are braindead. You haven't said one word about the criminals trying to burn that Church down. They are lucky they got off just being tear gassed to get rid of them. They should have been shot. I would tell you that you need to correct your thinking but the problem is you can't fix stupid.

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The church had been boarded up four months from a previous fire. No one from the church was present when the.protesters (peaceful) were marching down that street. But, as you say, they couldn't fix stupid.

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If I may reply one last time since you hit the crux of the matter. Trump has taken EVERYTHING America stands for and what I voted for to hide behind to secure his nomination. Tear gassing a crowd so he could pose with a Bible in front of a church was the ultimate of hypocrisy and exposure of his true intentions. Over and out.

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Sling, you are braindead. You haven't said one word about the criminals trying to burn that Church down. They are lucky they got off just being tear gassed to get rid of them. They should have been shot. I would tell you that you need to correct your thinking but the problem is you can't fix stupid.

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The church had been boarded up four months from a previous fire. No one from the church was present when the.protesters (peaceful) were marching down that street. But, as you say, they couldn't fix stupid.

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"Peaceful protestors?" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Sling, you're the textbook definition of misguided. Anyone who's stoopid enuf to waste their time running around protesting nonsense which always turns violent, they ask for the gas. If I were in charge I'd shoot a couple dozen of these idiots and burn the bodies in public. Wanna bet the BS will end after that?

I believe a fire was set in the basement of the church a day or two before the Trump Bible display.

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While I knew some of the results, I decided to spend some time reviewing data over the last 45 years regarding US Presidents and their acknowledged vacation days. I first utilized Wikipedia, but then read about 8 to 10 articles covering this subject. Wikipedia gave a broad range for both Presidents Clinton and Reagan, but I will use use the higher number for both individual as additional articles supported the higher number. The numbers are based as if each President served two terms, 8 years. Remember, an average worker has weekends off (104 days) and approximately ten federal holidays. Over 8 years, that number is 912 days. Here are the results based on most vacation days listed first:

Elder Bush 1,086, Younger Bush, 1,020, Reagan 866, Trump 632, Clinton 345, Obama 328, and Carter 158.

I always believed Jimmy Carter was the hardest working ex-President, specifically working with Habitat for Humanity. While he may not be viewed as a successful President, no one outworked him while in office.

As for golfing, Trump averages 87 rounds/year and Obama averaged 42 rounds/year. There is actually a website that monitors this: https://presidentialgolftracker.com/

For me, the success of a President ties into the people he surrounds himself with, not the time spent working. Still, reviewing these numbers was interesting.

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Obama was out playing basketball 300 days a year.

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When I read this in the morning, I was on my way to run a basketball clinic, ironically. A 70 year old gentleman who played NAIA basketball, who is our Freshmen girls head coach and varsity assistant, runs the clinic and I help. We do this at 9 AM, six days a week since June 1st. The free clinic runs for one hour. I make an average of five clinics per week. At most, it takes 1 1/2 hours of my time. I am semi retired. A good basketball workout does not take a lot of time.

Obama put a basketball court in the White House. Hence, a workout with politicians and advisors probably lasted 1 1/2 hours during lunchtime. After a work out, they probably skipped lunch (I did). Hence, it is not documented as a vacation day.

Yes, Obama played a good amount of basketball in his first term, but I cannot find any documentation as to the amount. But Obama admitted that he hardly played basketball in his second term due to age. He played more golf, which I had documented.

I cannot find any documentation as to any President playing basketball, for any amount of hours. With that stated, I will safely comment that Trump has taken more vacation days than Obama.

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Originally Posted by Deech

While I knew some of the results, I decided to spend some time reviewing data over the last 45 years regarding US Presidents and their acknowledged vacation days. I first utilized Wikipedia, but then read about 8 to 10 articles covering this subject. Wikipedia gave a broad range for both Presidents Clinton and Reagan, but I will use use the higher number for both individual as additional articles supported the higher number. The numbers are based as if each President served two terms, 8 years. Remember, an average worker has weekends off (104 days) and approximately ten federal holidays. Over 8 years, that number is 912 days. Here are the results based on most vacation days listed first:

Elder Bush 1,086, Younger Bush, 1,020, Reagan 866, Trump 632, Clinton 345, Obama 328, and Carter 158.

I always believed Jimmy Carter was the hardest working ex-President, specifically working with Habitat for Humanity. While he may not be viewed as a successful President, no one outworked him while in office.

As for golfing, Trump averages 87 rounds/year and Obama averaged 42 rounds/year. There is actually a website that monitors this: https://presidentialgolftracker.com/

For me, the success of a President ties into the people he surrounds himself with, not the time spent working. Still, reviewing these numbers was interesting.

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Obama was out playing basketball 300 days a year.

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When I read this in the morning, I was on my way to run a basketball clinic, ironically. A 70 year old gentleman who played NAIA basketball, who is our Freshmen girls head coach and varsity assistant, runs the clinic and I help. We do this at 9 AM, six days a week since June 1st. The free clinic runs for one hour. I make an average of five clinics per week. At most, it takes 1 1/2 hours of my time. I am semi retired. A good basketball workout does not take a lot of time.

Obama put a basketball court in the White House. Hence, a workout with politicians and advisors probably lasted 1 1/2 hours during lunchtime. After a work out, they probably skipped lunch (I did). Hence, it is not documented as a vacation day.

Yes, Obama played a good amount of basketball in his first term, but I cannot find any documentation as to the amount. But Obama admitted that he hardly played basketball in his second term due to age. He played more golf, which I had documented.

I cannot find any documentation as to any President playing basketball, for any amount of hours. With that stated, I will safely comment that Trump has taken more vacation days than Obama.

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And there is no doubt you are counting the days he goes to his own rally's--which are really working days--as vacation days. Trump has a lot of energy for his age. Hardest working president I've ever seen. But the biggest thing about it is HE GETS THINGS DONE!!!! I would much rather have a president that takes a lot of vacations but gets thing done than a president that sits in the oval office everyday and doesn't get jackshit done. Trump has done more in 4 years than prior presidents have done in the past 30 years.

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If I may reply one last time since you hit the crux of the matter. Trump has taken EVERYTHING America stands for and what I voted for to hide behind to secure his nomination. Tear gassing a crowd so he could pose with a Bible in front of a church was the ultimate of hypocrisy and exposure of his true intentions. Over and out.

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Sling, you are braindead. You haven't said one word about the criminals trying to burn that Church down. They are lucky they got off just being tear gassed to get rid of them. They should have been shot. I would tell you that you need to correct your thinking but the problem is you can't fix stupid.

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The church had been boarded up four months from a previous fire. No one from the church was present when the.protesters (peaceful) were marching down that street. But, as you say, they couldn't fix stupid.

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https://www.episcopalnewsservice.org...ington-church/

You can find other references, but this uhm straight from the source. Yea, fake news, right?

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Obama was out playing basketball 300 days a year.

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When I read this in the morning, I was on my way to run a basketball clinic, ironically. A 70 year old gentleman who played NAIA basketball, who is our Freshmen girls head coach and varsity assistant, runs the clinic and I help. We do this at 9 AM, six days a week since June 1st. The free clinic runs for one hour. I make an average of five clinics per week. At most, it takes 1 1/2 hours of my time. I am semi retired. A good basketball workout does not take a lot of time.

Obama put a basketball court in the White House. Hence, a workout with politicians and advisors probably lasted 1 1/2 hours during lunchtime. After a work out, they probably skipped lunch (I did). Hence, it is not documented as a vacation day.

Yes, Obama played a good amount of basketball in his first term, but I cannot find any documentation as to the amount. But Obama admitted that he hardly played basketball in his second term due to age. He played more golf, which I had documented.

I cannot find any documentation as to any President playing basketball, for any amount of hours. With that stated, I will safely comment that Trump has taken more vacation days than Obama.

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And there is no doubt you are counting the days he goes to his own rally's--which are really working days--as vacation days. Trump has a lot of energy for his age. Hardest working president I've ever seen. But the biggest thing about it is HE GETS THINGS DONE!!!! I would much rather have a president that takes a lot of vacations but gets thing done than a president that sits in the oval office everyday and doesn't get jackshit done. Trump has done more in 4 years than prior presidents have done in the past 30 years.

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From Mickey's standpoint, a man who has declared multiple bankruptcies and fucked over a long list of creditors is "getting stuff done".

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Sling, you are braindead. You haven't said one word about the criminals trying to burn that Church down. They are lucky they got off just being tear gassed to get rid of them. They should have been shot. I would tell you that you need to correct your thinking but the problem is you can't fix stupid.

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The church had been boarded up four months from a previous fire. No one from the church was present when the.protesters (peaceful) were marching down that street. But, as you say, they couldn't fix stupid.

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https://www.episcopalnewsservice.org...ington-church/

You can find other references, but this uhm straight from the source. Yea, fake news, right?

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No, fake Church!

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The church had been boarded up four months from a previous fire. No one from the church was present when the.protesters (peaceful) were marching down that street. But, as you say, they couldn't fix stupid.

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https://www.episcopalnewsservice.org...ington-church/

You can find other references, but this uhm straight from the source. Yea, fake news, right?

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No, fake Church!

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All bow to DeMango = Amen, God, and, God name. The young-earth dude.

Say, what happened to ("pastor") Bob21?

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When I read this in the morning, I was on my way to run a basketball clinic, ironically. A 70 year old gentleman who played NAIA basketball, who is our Freshmen girls head coach and varsity assistant, runs the clinic and I help. We do this at 9 AM, six days a week since June 1st. The free clinic runs for one hour. I make an average of five clinics per week. At most, it takes 1 1/2 hours of my time. I am semi retired. A good basketball workout does not take a lot of time.

Obama put a basketball court in the White House. Hence, a workout with politicians and advisors probably lasted 1 1/2 hours during lunchtime. After a work out, they probably skipped lunch (I did). Hence, it is not documented as a vacation day.

Yes, Obama played a good amount of basketball in his first term, but I cannot find any documentation as to the amount. But Obama admitted that he hardly played basketball in his second term due to age. He played more golf, which I had documented.

I cannot find any documentation as to any President playing basketball, for any amount of hours. With that stated, I will safely comment that Trump has taken more vacation days than Obama.

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And there is no doubt you are counting the days he goes to his own rally's--which are really working days--as vacation days. Trump has a lot of energy for his age. Hardest working president I've ever seen. But the biggest thing about it is HE GETS THINGS DONE!!!! I would much rather have a president that takes a lot of vacations but gets thing done than a president that sits in the oval office everyday and doesn't get jackshit done. Trump has done more in 4 years than prior presidents have done in the past 30 years.

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From Mickey's standpoint, a man who has declared multiple bankruptcies and fucked over a long list of creditors is "getting stuff done".

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Quit deflecting and admit the truth, Mr. Trump Derangement Syndrome. As president Trump has gotten a lot done. How do you like his latest accomplishment, getting Israel and UAE together. Everybody trying to take credit for it but it was a Trump deal. Sticking your head in the sand won't change that.

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And there is no doubt you are counting the days he goes to his own rally's--which are really working days--as vacation days. Trump has a lot of energy for his age. Hardest working president I've ever seen. But the biggest thing about it is HE GETS THINGS DONE!!!! I would much rather have a president that takes a lot of vacations but gets thing done than a president that sits in the oval office everyday and doesn't get jackshit done. Trump has done more in 4 years than prior presidents have done in the past 30 years.

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From Mickey's standpoint, a man who has declared multiple bankruptcies and fucked over a long list of creditors is "getting stuff done".

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Quit deflecting and admit the truth, Mr. Trump Derangement Syndrome. As president Trump has gotten a lot done. How do you like his latest accomplishment, getting Israel and UAE together. Everybody trying to take credit for it but it was a Trump deal. Sticking your head in the sand won't change that.

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TDS. I rarely bring up Trump in a vacuum. His record should speak for itself and if it doesn't - that is when you hear from me, correcting some bullshit. I think we know who REALLY is deranged over Trump - to the extent they've likely changed their values as a person over the guy.

Israel and UAE thing is already falling apart due to a disagreement about settlements. Thats how I first heard about it, but hey good for the President. I wasn't aware that UAE and Israel was a thing, but hey couldn't be bad !

Trump has done some good things. I went from having no real opinion on free trade to being against it. It really just finds the next country where labor and pollution costs are the lowest. I think raising people's negative view towards China to be a good thing. This will help push back on their policy and such. Maybe people will stop to see "Is this made in China?" before clicking buy. The list of negative he has done is tremendous and if I started thinking I wouldn't be able to stop for some time.

Trump is not our finest. Seems likely he had someone take his SAT just to get into college. Pathetic. A con man from the start. Only fools couldn't see through the shit.

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From Mickey's standpoint, a man who has declared multiple bankruptcies and fucked over a long list of creditors is "getting stuff done".

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Quit deflecting and admit the truth, Mr. Trump Derangement Syndrome. As president Trump has gotten a lot done. How do you like his latest accomplishment, getting Israel and UAE together. Everybody trying to take credit for it but it was a Trump deal. Sticking your head in the sand won't change that.

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TDS. I rarely bring up Trump in a vacuum. His record should speak for itself and if it doesn't - that is when you hear from me, correcting some bullshit. I think we know who REALLY is deranged over Trump - to the extent they've likely changed their values as a person over the guy.

Israel and UAE thing is already falling apart due to a disagreement about settlements. Thats how I first heard about it, but hey good for the President. I wasn't aware that UAE and Israel was a thing, but hey couldn't be bad !

Trump has done some good things. I went from having no real opinion on free trade to being against it. It really just finds the next country where labor and pollution costs are the lowest. I think raising people's negative view towards China to be a good thing. This will help push back on their policy and such. Maybe people will stop to see "Is this made in China?" before clicking buy. The list of negative he has done is tremendous and if I started thinking I wouldn't be able to stop for some time.

Trump is not our finest. Seems likely he had someone take his SAT just to get into college. Pathetic. A con man from the start. Only fools couldn't see through the shit.

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You are long on blanket statements with no facts to back them up. Thats how you lefties operate. Why don't you start proving some shit. Like who took the SAT for him. You just talk shit. All innuendo with no facts to back it up.

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I had a response typed up a few hours ago and now I have to update it. I agree with all three comments from Sling, Rob, and LMR

Sling - The President's behavior is abhorrent. He is an individual that rarely, if ever, admits mistakes. Lost too many cabinet members. Resents and sometimes takes revenge on fellow Republicans that disagree with him. Goes off script and makes unique comments that make no sense. If I was an employee, I would have a difficult time working for him. If I was in business, I would have a difficult time selling to him (bankruptcies). Do you want your daughter marrying an individual similar to him (excluding the money)? I believe COVID, economy, unemployment, and the polls have sent his personality to a new extreme.

Rob - Like Rob, for the most part I live off my 401K. The President's job is to perform and not be soft. The market has done well. He has forced other countries to pay their fair share in various organizations (United Nations, etc.). He tried to work with China and North Korea. He is forcing US companies to bring back their foreign manufacturing business back home. He tried to implement tariffs on unequal trade relations. Both Boz and Keystone have agreed that you have to get past the personality. If not for COVID, Trump might have had a slight lead in the polls. Four years ago, America wanted change. Those who are older and were fortunate to put money aside, have been rewarded.

LMR - Does a President, as an individual or member of a certain party have influence on the stock market? Some believe that Republicans are more fiscally response and more friendly to big business which relates well to Wall Street. If Biden becomes President will the recent market surge stop? Is it because he is a Democrat and/or because he will likely raise taxes on higher income individuals? Six months ago I addressed comments made here about how much better Trump has done influencing the market than Obama. Granted Obama came in after a horrible 2008. COVID has impacted 2020. If you take the first 36 months of Obama 1, Obama 2, and Trump (purposely stopping at January 31st to keep COVID out of the equation) the Dow Jones collective increase was 53%, 14.5%, and 33.5%. The S&P 500 numbers were 51%, 24%, and 33%. If you add February, March, April, and May 2020 Obama 1 numbers stay the same but Obama 2 numbers increase tremendously and Trumps' fall behind Obama 2. It is not fair for any President to experience a pandemic, but these numbers do support much of what LMR states.

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If I may reply one last time since you hit the crux of the matter. Trump has taken EVERYTHING America stands for and what I voted for to hide behind to secure his nomination. Tear gassing a crowd so he could pose with a Bible in front of a church was the ultimate of hypocrisy and exposure of his true intentions. Over and out.

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Sling, you are braindead. You haven't said one word about the criminals trying to burn that Church down. They are lucky they got off just being tear gassed to get rid of them. They should have been shot. I would tell you that you need to correct your thinking but the problem is you can't fix stupid.

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Person, woman,man,camera,tv. Not so, Mickey! I just passed the cognitive test!