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Comrade Dietz, thank you for bringing your cognitive dissonance to the attention of this forum. Yes, you know the story is a hoax, but you truly want to believe the president dissed the soldiers. So you have looked for anything you could find to rectify your false belief.
How long have you been bashing Fox News? I even explained to you that Fox News has as many left wing operatives as right wing. But you continued to disparage Fox News as an alt-right news network. But now you want to use them to perpetuate the false narrative that the president dissed the soldiers. You, Comrade Dietz, have dissed Fox News more than anyone else on this forum. But now you want to use them as truth sayers after you called them liars for so long? GTFO!!
Now, I know what you are up to. You think people like me are going to think "WTF? The president dissed the soldiers? I believe in low taxes and less government but by golly because the president dissed the soldiers I'm going to vote for high taxes and more government!! Yeah, that's the ticket!! That'll show the bastards!!
Comrade Dietz, you have portrayed yourself as the cynical one but here you are ready to believe the bullshit because it can benefit your attempts to turn the country into a socialist dictatorship. But have you taken a look at the timing of the story? It happened to have coincided with Trump's rise in the polls and Biden's free fall in the polls.
The Atlantic false narrative is designed to stop the Trump poll surge. Wise up.
Red, you remain the idiot you've always been.
How many times is it gonna take before you people learn that making up and repeating false negative stories from anonymous sources about our great president only plays in his favor?
He's beaten phonies like you into the ground so many times that it's almost embarrassing.
Gentlemen,
Thank you for answering the query. Fox News, of course, has completely different sources than those used by The Atlantic. Otherwise, obviously, Fox News would not have spent 36 hours denying the reports, but then, after actually asking their own sources, then verifying the reports.
The questions regarding cognitive dissonance are simply, for those interested readers:
1) Confronted with all major media outlets reporting the same thing from completely different sources, would Trump supporters stand firm and decide that all media, including Fox News, was fake news?
2) Would Trump supporters then acknowledge that they have better sources and better knowledge than all American media sources combined, including Fox News?
or:
1) Would Trump supporters acknowledge that they have limited knowledge of what the president actually thinks and has said, and that reporters for all American media companies have better access to such information than they, the down-on-the-street, Trump supporters?
2) Would they budge in their Trump support, or would the most damning information disconfirming Trump as noble leader simply be rejected as "not religious canon" regardless of uniform reportage?
The answer, at least with the first two responders, is clearly the former.
We know how those with TDS will respond. He can't do anything wrong. He is their god.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
I keep seeing TDS used differently.
I know it's Trump Derangement Syndrome.
I see it used
1) by Trump supporters to show how deranged the left is whenever they hear about Trump the left gets deranged.
2) by Dems who say anyone supporting Trump is deranged especially if following him blindly.
So which is the correct usage.
Thx
"As someone who is just to the right of center I believe in low taxes and less government. But this thing about Trump dissing the troops has me pissed off to high heaven! I'm so pissed I'm going to vote for China Joe Biden so I get much higher taxes and much bigger government!"
Do you think the above statement makes a lot of sense? That you should vote against what you consider to be your best interests because you are pissed at the president for something he said.
I'M FUCKING TIRED OF "ANONYMOUS SOURCES." AND I'M TIRED OF LUNATICS LIKE COMRADE DIETZ PERPETUATING HOAXES.
dupe
Cunt you and that idiot Dietz just don't get it. I will not vote for socialism under any circumstances. It's preposterous what they are accusing the president of saying. But even if he did say it I'm not your fucking dupe that is going to vote socialist because of it. Get a clue.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionWe know how those with TDS will respond. He can't do anything wrong. He is their god.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Comrade Dietz is having a blast because he knows its impossible to disprove a negative. Thats the spot Trump is in. You are silly with glee, aren't you, Comrade Dietz? The only ones falling for this new hoax are lefties. At least they are acting like they are enraged. But they know the story isn't true. Dietz, don't any of you lefty hoaxers move to Hollywood. You idiots are lousy actors.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
The TDS is the antithesis of ODS-Obama Derangement Syndrome-which has plagued Trump since his inception.
Not cool comred. You just drop a link that has nothing to do with Las Vegas in the Las Vegas subforum without mentioning at all what it’s about. Clickbait comred.
Mickey you missed something. This was FOX reporting. This is why it is so interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmComrade Dietz is having a blast because he knows its impossible to disprove a negative. Thats the spot Trump is in. You are silly with glee, aren't you, Comrade Dietz? The only ones falling for this new hoax are lefties. At least they are acting like they are enraged. But they know the story isn't true. Dietz, don't any of you lefty hoaxers move to Hollywood. You idiots are lousy actors.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
I have no idea if it is true or false but it is completely within the realm of believability if you've been paying attention for the past 4 years and not ran around with your head stuck up your ass.
Good point. I didn't know ODS was also a diagnosable condition but it makes sense. Pretty much the sole driving force behind Trump. If it has the name Obama written on it - Tear it down. So pathetic. If not for that sorta thing, I could perhaps get behind Trump on some issues where I may be in agreement with.Quote:
Originally Posted by slingshot
When the defendant says that all the witnesses against him are lying and he's the one telling the truth...the defendant gets convicted. Lots of criminals lamenting that fact of life.
It will be SO much fun watching the pitiful reactions here the night Trump gets re-elected....which by all rights should be by a landslide. In fact, the only part of the night that will be even more interesting and satisfying will be watching the dikes and faggots of CNN and MSNBC boil over again--not in disbelief because they're all smart enuf to comprehend that anybody with a job, a 401k, or a market account ain't voting to see all that go up in smoke--but because it's a kick watching all the poor anchors cry crocodile tears....once again!
Wise up. And sling, come to your senses please.
I DID wise up. Capitalism is the STEALING of benefits from "socialism". The classic EpiPen gouging is an example because they knew Medicare would pick up the tab. Enter exorbitant drug and hospital costs, and the Affordable Care Act looks very expensive- but, hey, the thieves are making it in a free, capitalist country! Enter my wife's $10,000 Bill to BCBS to give her an infusion of an antidiarhea medication that had she have been able to wait till morning would have cost $100! But who's gonna tell your wife "you can make it!" when she's throwing up and about to pass out? Don't fret, Red. Trump probably was in pain kneeling on his bone spurs while lamenting over his hero, John McCain, when he made these statements. Just forgot ths: when we get in a bind, just BORROW from SS for-whenever- then pay it back-whenever! But wait! Now Trump's gonna phase it out! I would close with the words on the Statue of Liberty- but since it doesn't say energetic, rich, well fed,they may want to take THAT statue down!
Sounds like "Rob Singer" might want to invest some of that double up bug money in the election. BetOnline has Trump -120 right now. LOL. Northbet has Republicans-to-win Presidency at -107. Of course, that's essentially "Action" as opposed to designated pitchers. If Trump wins, "Rob Singer" will "Double Up!" Seems only right.
LOL! You fucking idiot. I didn't miss anything. I'm just not going with the anonymous sources bullshit anymore. Get these goddam cowards to come forward and state their case so we can see if they were even in an arena where they could have heard such a thing. A long list of people have come forward saying they were there and Trump didn't say anything like that. They are not anonymous. Sarah Huckabee for example.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionMickey you missed something. This was FOX reporting. This is why it is so interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmComrade Dietz is having a blast because he knows its impossible to disprove a negative. Thats the spot Trump is in. You are silly with glee, aren't you, Comrade Dietz? The only ones falling for this new hoax are lefties. At least they are acting like they are enraged. But they know the story isn't true. Dietz, don't any of you lefty hoaxers move to Hollywood. You idiots are lousy actors.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
I have no idea if it is true or false but it is completely within the realm of believability if you've been paying attention for the past 4 years and not ran around with your head stuck up your ass.
Cunt, you and comrade dietz have an agenda. YOU WANT TO BELIEVE ANONYMOUS SOURCES OVER NAMED SOURCES. As far as I'm concerned yellow bellied anonymous sources can go straight to hell. I'm sick and tired of the cowards that write that shit.
LMAO.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmLOL! You fucking idiot. I didn't miss anything. I'm just not going with the anonymous sources bullshit anymore. Get these goddam cowards to come forward and state their case so we can see if they were even in an arena where they could have heard such a thing. A long list of people have come forward saying they were there and Trump didn't say anything like that. They are not anonymous. Sarah Huckabee for example.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionMickey you missed something. This was FOX reporting. This is why it is so interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
I have no idea if it is true or false but it is completely within the realm of believability if you've been paying attention for the past 4 years and not ran around with your head stuck up your ass.
Cunt, you and comrade dietz have an agenda. YOU WANT TO BELIEVE ANONYMOUS SOURCES OVER NAMED SOURCES. As far as I'm concerned yellow bellied anonymous sources can go straight to hell. I'm sick and tired of the cowards that write that shit.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/04/polit...eck/index.html
Also - I have no clue if he said it. Given everything else about him it isn't hard to believe though. Not wanting to be seen in pictures with his fat daughter and many other things.
I'm not going to bother arguing over it - this whole thing is LOL. The guy was LOL from the start. He was never Presidential material. LOL at the losers who think otherwise. LOL LOL LOL.
Theres one glaring hole in your argument. All the witnesses are not against Trump. The NAMED witnesses say he didn't say it. Only the ANONYMOUS witnesses say he said it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
Trump is the hardest working president we ever had. And he's accomplished much more than any president in my lifetime. But you keep drinking that kool-aid, loser.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionLMAO.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmLOL! You fucking idiot. I didn't miss anything. I'm just not going with the anonymous sources bullshit anymore. Get these goddam cowards to come forward and state their case so we can see if they were even in an arena where they could have heard such a thing. A long list of people have come forward saying they were there and Trump didn't say anything like that. They are not anonymous. Sarah Huckabee for example.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
Cunt, you and comrade dietz have an agenda. YOU WANT TO BELIEVE ANONYMOUS SOURCES OVER NAMED SOURCES. As far as I'm concerned yellow bellied anonymous sources can go straight to hell. I'm sick and tired of the cowards that write that shit.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/04/polit...eck/index.html
Also - I have no clue if he said it. Given everything else about him it isn't hard to believe though. Not wanting to be seen in pictures with his fat daughter and many other things.
I'm not going to bother arguing over it - this whole thing is LOL. The guy was LOL from the start. He was never Presidential material. LOL at the losers who think otherwise. LOL LOL LOL.
And you are citing CNN for fact checking? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHA !!!!!!!!!!
Speaking of cognitive issues, have you seen China Joe Biden's press conference? Hey, the place was packed. At least a dozen people showed up. Joe is in poor shape. He was very slow in answering the softball questions from the media even though the questions and answers were scripted. It was embarrassing how easy the media was on him. Every question was set up so he could attack Trump. It would be funny if it weren't so sad. I can't believe you lefties nominated such an old sad no energy figure to be the next president.
What about the thirty or so named women who claim that Grump raped or sexually assaulted them?Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmTheres one glaring hole in your argument. All the witnesses are not against Trump. The NAMED witnesses say he didn't say it. Only the ANONYMOUS witnesses say he said it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
What about Tara Reide?Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawgWhat about the thirty or so named women who claim that Grump raped or sexually assaulted them?Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmTheres one glaring hole in your argument. All the witnesses are not against Trump. The NAMED witnesses say he didn't say it. Only the ANONYMOUS witnesses say he said it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
Very incoherent sling. I'm a simple guy. Gimmee something I can understand.Quote:
Originally Posted by slingshot
Thanks to Trump I'm not needing any of that DU money, and if you had any money invested in the stock market instead of in loafers, busses, and gay bath houses you'd comprehend why it's not necessary. And I already put money on Trump as the underdog at SP.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
I am not sure where you get I "rely on CNN for fact-checking". Your logic is pathetic. Amazing you can do the machine math.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmTrump is the hardest working president we ever had. And he's accomplished much more than any president in my lifetime. But you keep drinking that kool-aid, loser.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionLMAO.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/04/polit...eck/index.html
Also - I have no clue if he said it. Given everything else about him it isn't hard to believe though. Not wanting to be seen in pictures with his fat daughter and many other things.
I'm not going to bother arguing over it - this whole thing is LOL. The guy was LOL from the start. He was never Presidential material. LOL at the losers who think otherwise. LOL LOL LOL.
And you are citing CNN for fact checking? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHA !!!!!!!!!!
CNN put fact checking in the title. I saw a screen cap and googled it. CNN was only one covering it, but I looked a bit elsewhere just to not waste time on your puppet-like response. If you want to argue with the facts then have at it.
Puppet, playing golf and canceling everything you can attached to someone's name out of spite does not count for "work".
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Originally Posted by accountinquestion
Account, I am very disappointed in you. I have to side with mickey crimm on this one, as his answer is science-based. In science, specifically physics, work is defined as "measure of energy transfer that occurs when an object is moved by an external force, at least part of which is applied in the direction of the displacement."
Lugging 290 pounds around a golf course is therefore quite an impressive bit of work. Thus, golfing 140 times in three years is consistent both with taking a lot of time off and doing a yeoman's amount of work, in the scientific sense. Scientifically, President Trump may quite possibly be "the hardest working president in history." If you ever wore a 75-pound weight vest while golfing, you would have some appreciation for his abilities. Having worn a 30-pound vest while running and struggling mightily, I certainly am in awe of the man.
If the number of named witnesses ever got anywhere near thirty I'd definitely start to worry.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmWhat about Tara Reide?Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawgWhat about the thirty or so named women who claim that Grump raped or sexually assaulted them?Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Hey have you seen this?
https://keepamericagreat.com/
is Grump always a day late and a dollar short or how did Biden one up him again by swooping this domain name before Grump could even think of it. Then again we're talking about a guy who knows he's going to lose so he probably didn't want to waste the bread on a domain name. After all, names that haven't been picked up yet do cost all of what, eight bucks.
America is a mix of socialism and capitalism to offset the weaknesses of each. I voted for Trump based on a sane balance of these tenets-help for the needy without misuse for those hoping for handouts. It soon became evident his obsession was make Trump great and not America. Dear God- every time he opens his mouth, I wanna throw up! How can anyone believe this habitual liar? Honestly, the last election is just like this one-choosing the lesser of two evils. His hatred for Obama, McCain, or ANYONE who disagrees with him is the fuel to drive his reasoning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.SingerVery incoherent sling. I'm a simple guy. Gimmee something I can understand.Quote:
Originally Posted by slingshot
It is refreshing to see someone who voted for Trump is objective.Quote:
Originally Posted by slingshotAmerica is a mix of socialism and capitalism to offset the weaknesses of each. I voted for Trump based on a sane balance of these tenets-help for the needy without misuse for those hoping for handouts. It soon became evident his obsession was make Trump great and not America. Dear God- every time he opens his mouth, I wanna throw up! How can anyone believe this habitual liar? Honestly, the last election is just like this one-choosing the lesser of two evils. His hatred for Obama, McCain, or ANYONE who disagrees with him is the fuel to drive his reasoning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.SingerVery incoherent sling. I'm a simple guy. Gimmee something I can understand.Quote:
Originally Posted by slingshot
This whole matter reminds me of a Law and Order episode where the defendant gets on the stand and tries to present his version of what happened all composed and rationally trying to lie his way out of whatever it is that he did. Then next thing you know he gets triggered by the prosecutor into somehow losing his cool and letting loose with some "That bitch!" type remark that makes it obvious that he has a violent temper and really did hack his wife to bits knowingly versus whatever amnesiac or psych defense he was trying to lay down, all this as the dramatic background music crescendoes to emphasize how badly he just blew it and gave himself away.
Similarly with
Trump Faces Uproar Over Reported Remarks Disparaging Fallen Soldiers
Grump tries to lie his way out of this one
“It’s a fake story and it’s a disgrace that they’re allowed to do it,” he told reporters in the Oval Office, insisting that he respected the troops. “To me, they’re heroes,” he said. “It’s even hard to believe how they could do it. And I say that, the level of bravery, and to me, they’re absolute heroes.”
but just can't help himself and lets loose with enough anti-military comments such as about his arch-nemesis McCain or about Kelly to make it clear that he's guilty as charged.
But he railed against one former military officer, John Kelly, a retired four-star Marine general who served as his White House chief of staff at the time of the reported episode and who he seemed to blame for the article. “Didn’t do a good job, had no temperament and ultimately he was petered out,” Trump said when asked about Kelly on Friday evening. “He was exhausted. This man was totally exhausted. He wasn’t even able to function in the last number of months.”
Trump says "I say what I say" when asked about 2015 McCain comments.
And of course the next scene we cut away to is the jury coming in refusing to look at him before they read their verdict.
Your problem sling is, either you have zero money invested in the markets, or you haven't been paying attention to the ENORMOUSLY effective job Trump's been doing overall. Learn not to read his tweets if they offend you. It's his way of needling the liberal press, and he does a very good job of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by slingshotAmerica is a mix of socialism and capitalism to offset the weaknesses of each. I voted for Trump based on a sane balance of these tenets-help for the needy without misuse for those hoping for handouts. It soon became evident his obsession was make Trump great and not America. Dear God- every time he opens his mouth, I wanna throw up! How can anyone believe this habitual liar? Honestly, the last election is just like this one-choosing the lesser of two evils. His hatred for Obama, McCain, or ANYONE who disagrees with him is the fuel to drive his reasoning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.SingerVery incoherent sling. I'm a simple guy. Gimmee something I can understand.Quote:
Originally Posted by slingshot
Alternatively, you can learn to ignore the rantings of California flakes like Mdawg. He has no choice but to believe Biden has any value at all. These are the type of libtards that'll come apart at the seams when Trump gets re-elected. And for all the violent vitriol he and his ilk speak, they'll simply wilt like ineffective and weak stems when they end up having to face those of us on the right who obviously far out-gun those wimpy-ass losers.
This reminds me of Trump not being able to understand the many who chose to serve their country instead of MONEY!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.SingerYour problem sling is, either you have zero money invested in the markets, or you haven't been paying attention to the ENORMOUSLY effective job Trump's been doing overall. Learn not to read his tweets if they offend you. It's his way of needling the liberal press, and he does a very good job of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by slingshotAmerica is a mix of socialism and capitalism to offset the weaknesses of each. I voted for Trump based on a sane balance of these tenets-help for the needy without misuse for those hoping for handouts. It soon became evident his obsession was make Trump great and not America. Dear God- every time he opens his mouth, I wanna throw up! How can anyone believe this habitual liar? Honestly, the last election is just like this one-choosing the lesser of two evils. His hatred for Obama, McCain, or ANYONE who disagrees with him is the fuel to drive his reasoning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Alternatively, you can learn to ignore the rantings of California flakes like Mdawg. He has no choice but to believe Biden has any value at all. These are the type of libtards that'll come apart at the seams when Trump gets re-elected. And for all the violent vitriol he and his ilk speak, they'll simply wilt like ineffective and weak stems when they end up having to face those of us on the right who obviously far out-gun those wimpy-ass losers.
I hear the betting odds are now favoring Trump.
It's ironic that George Floyd's death has now put Minnesota into play for Repubicans. They haven't won there since 1972. The rioting/burning/looting has chased a lot of liberals over to the republican side.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
It's not hard to figure. You're a good liberal and a small businessperson in a liberal town. You vote democrat. Then when the shit hits the fan you find out that the liberal lunatics you elected won't do a damn thing to protect your property or business. They order the cops to stand down. And they defund the police. They leave you in a dangerous spot where you have to arm and protect yourself. All that tax money you paid in the town didn't benefit you one iota.
The dem strategy has backfired on them. They alienated a lot of liberals. That's why Trump is surging to the lead.
I'm no fan of Biden's. Fairly annoyed that is the best the democratic party can do. Which is worse for voters, Biden being that old or being gay? I mean if they're going with standard white guy, should have just threw it all behind Pete. Then Kamala.. is she even black? Or another Jewish woman? (I kid.... I kid..)
Trump isn't any better mentally. They seem about equal to me. Trump just doesn't play by the rules. Which is ok and all, but this country was founded on rules and such. That is where a great deal of our strength is derived. It is to the point where a debate is no longer a positive thing. Usually I'd say Biden is a blah blah, but honestly, Trump is about everything but honesty. To debate, you have to at least agree to not just talk out your ass constantly.
<shrug> what're ya gonna do?
Q: Do you know how to tell when dems are lying?Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
A: Their lips are moving.
The dems throw up hoax after hoax after hoax about Trump. The press is even worse. Dems don't care about truth, only power. To them the end justifies the means.
I see a puppet with kool-aid stained lips.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmQ: Do you know how to tell when dems are lying?Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
A: Their lips are moving.
The dems throw up hoax after hoax after hoax about Trump. The press is even worse. Dems don't care about truth, only power. To them the end justifies the means.
Say something wrong, and of course MickeyCrimm is going to jump on it without even researching, if it supports his thoughts.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
The payout, such as at Betfair, was originally favoring Biden at 61, but has lowered to favor Biden at 50.5 This still doesn't mean "the betting odds are now favoring Grump" as AxelWolf has stated, Biden is still favored.
However, what's more important is WHY the odds dropped. The polls still favor Biden tremendously, and he is still slated to win the election. All that happened is that a lot of big money, not so much combined smaller bets, but a lot of very large bets by individual bettors, piled onto Grump, and so the betting markets lowered the payout odds so as not to get caught in a net losing position. All they did was counterbalance the odds - the same as if a lot of bettors placed a lot of money on a long shot horse at the last minute at a race. The chances that the horse would win didn't change, just the payout odds dropped.
This is just the sort of imprecision we've come to expect from our resident gambling expert. :eek:
And what you don't get because you are an amateur ploppie "stick a pin in it" gambler is the polls are shaded to the dems. One of the easiest hustles in the busines. Just poll 60% dems and 40% repubs. It'll show the dem ahead every time. According to the polls Hillary was a mortal lock. What happened? Not even Fox News Poll in an honest poll.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawgSay something wrong, and of course MickeyCrimm is going to jump on it without even researching, if it supports his thoughts.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
The payout, such as at Betfair, was originally favoring Biden at 61, but has lowered to favor Biden at 50.5 This still doesn't mean "the betting odds are now favoring Grump" as AxelWolf has stated, Biden is still favored.
However, what's more important is WHY the odds dropped. The polls still favor Biden tremendously, and he is still slated to win the election. All that happened is that a lot of big money, not so much combined smaller bets, but a lot of very large bets by individual bettors, piled onto Grump, and so the betting markets lowered the payout odds so as not to get caught in a net losing position. All they did was counterbalance the odds - the same as if a lot of bettors placed a lot of money on a long shot horse at the last minute at a race. The chances that the horse would win didn't change, just the payout odds dropped.
This is just the sort of imprecision we've come to expect from our resident gambling expert. :eek:
That's all politicians. Not just dems.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmQ: Do you know how to tell when dems are lying?Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
A: Their lips are moving.
The polls were accurate in 2016 - Clinton did beat the hell out of Grump on the popular vote. Just, they didn't account for that some measly 77,000 votes across three states tipped those three states' electoral votes to red and made the election for Grump.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmAnd what you don't get because you are an amateur ploppie "stick a pin in it" gambler is the polls are shaded to the dems. One of the easiest hustles in the busines. Just poll 60% dems and 40% repubs. It'll show the dem ahead every time. According to the polls Hillary was a mortal lock. What happened? Not even Fox News Poll in an honest poll.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawgSay something wrong, and of course MickeyCrimm is going to jump on it without even researching, if it supports his thoughts.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
The payout, such as at Betfair, was originally favoring Biden at 61, but has lowered to favor Biden at 50.5 This still doesn't mean "the betting odds are now favoring Grump" as AxelWolf has stated, Biden is still favored.
However, what's more important is WHY the odds dropped. The polls still favor Biden tremendously, and he is still slated to win the election. All that happened is that a lot of big money, not so much combined smaller bets, but a lot of very large bets by individual bettors, piled onto Grump, and so the betting markets lowered the payout odds so as not to get caught in a net losing position. All they did was counterbalance the odds - the same as if a lot of bettors placed a lot of money on a long shot horse at the last minute at a race. The chances that the horse would win didn't change, just the payout odds dropped.
This is just the sort of imprecision we've come to expect from our resident gambling expert. :eek:
https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post107234
https://i.imgur.com/sI8iSyF.jpg
Even Grump didn't think he was going to win in 2016 (there are stories about how he covered his eyes and refused to hear any election results early in the night while the initial results were coming in mostly blue, and only let anyone discuss the ongoing election results with him much later when it started to look like he might win), and he certainly doesn't believe in his prospects this time around. In 2016, he pretty much acted like a guy at the tables holding a hard 16 while the dealer checks his card below his ace. He started to breath only after the dealer told him he could now draw.
What some fail to acknowledge is that Grump barely won in 2016 - barely won four years ago and is even more behind this year.
Typical whine from a pathetic California flake who pretends to be "wealthy" but truly hasn't the first clue about what makes a person wealthy.
It didn't take much snooping around the internet to find out that the author of the Atlantic piece, Jeff Goldberg, has a history of writing discredited stories. And the owner of Atlantic, David Bradley, is a Biden megadonor.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
And since Redietz is now a Fox News fan here's some more FNC commentary on whether the Atlantic story is true or not:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77gXAD9XlEU
Funny how they harp on anonymous stuff but lets not bring up all the stuff Trumps family and handlers have written in past month. Melanie's gf, Trumps niece, and now we have Cohen. People who know him have 0 loyalty. Any guesses why that seems to be the case?Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmIt didn't take much snooping around the internet to find out that the author of the Atlantic piece, Jeff Goldberg, has a history of writing discredited stories. And the owner of Atlantic, David Bradley, is a Biden megadonor.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
And since Redietz is now a Fox News fan here's some more FNC commentary on whether the Atlantic story is true or not:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77gXAD9XlEU
Deflection. Deflection. Deflection.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionFunny how they harp on anonymous stuff but lets not bring up all the stuff Trumps family and handlers have written in past month. Melanie's gf, Trumps niece, and now we have Cohen. People who know him have 0 loyalty. Any guesses why that seems to be the case?Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmIt didn't take much snooping around the internet to find out that the author of the Atlantic piece, Jeff Goldberg, has a history of writing discredited stories. And the owner of Atlantic, David Bradley, is a Biden megadonor.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
And since Redietz is now a Fox News fan here's some more FNC commentary on whether the Atlantic story is true or not:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77gXAD9XlEU
Not really, we were talking about how it is always anonymous sources. Not true at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmDeflection. Deflection. Deflection.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionFunny how they harp on anonymous stuff but lets not bring up all the stuff Trumps family and handlers have written in past month. Melanie's gf, Trumps niece, and now we have Cohen. People who know him have 0 loyalty. Any guesses why that seems to be the case?Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
It is anonymous when Trump still holds power over them.
A free citizen - he does not. While Trump idolizes and adores Putin, this is not Russia.
God Bless this Country for that.
You are totally ignorant when it comes to Trump and Russia. No way is Putin happy about Trump's moves against him. Here's some reading material so you can bone up. Putin is Trumps bitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionNot really, we were talking about how it is always anonymous sources. Not true at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmDeflection. Deflection. Deflection.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
It is anonymous when Trump still holds power over them.
A free citizen - he does not. While Trump idolizes and adores Putin, this is not Russia.
God Bless this Country for that.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...TwWlRlOl5lhnlJ
In your little puppet head, EVERYONE is Trump's bitch. I read part of it, yes we did some sanctions. I have no idea how that stuff relates to anything else, but I've consistently read how Trump idolizes Puton and I do not have a hard time believing it. He has expressed support for many crazy evil totalitarian government leaders - not just Putin.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmYou are totally ignorant when it comes to Trump and Russia. No way is Putin happy about Trump's moves against him. Here's some reading material so you can bone up. Putin is Trumps bitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionNot really, we were talking about how it is always anonymous sources. Not true at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
It is anonymous when Trump still holds power over them.
A free citizen - he does not. While Trump idolizes and adores Putin, this is not Russia.
God Bless this Country for that.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...TwWlRlOl5lhnlJ
That isn't my point though, my point was only how people who don't work with Trump etc are a lot more free. They wouldn't be free in other country, like Putin's Russia, but they are fairly safe to speak out against Trump in OUR country.
You're the one who went off on Trump defense. Good puppet, good boy.
https://www.theatlantic.com/internat...tators/554810/
Maybe that is normal behavior for a President and I am being manipulated.. maybe not.
You're the puppet because you believe all that fake news from the main stream media about Trump and Putin. You're a sucker for the fake news and that makes you Putin's bitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionIn your little puppet head, EVERYONE is Trump's bitch. I read part of it, yes we did some sanctions. I have no idea how that stuff relates to anything else, but I've consistently read how Trump idolizes Puton and I do not have a hard time believing it. He has expressed support for many crazy evil totalitarian government leaders - not just Putin.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmYou are totally ignorant when it comes to Trump and Russia. No way is Putin happy about Trump's moves against him. Here's some reading material so you can bone up. Putin is Trumps bitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...TwWlRlOl5lhnlJ
That isn't my point though, my point was only how people who don't work with Trump etc are a lot more free. They wouldn't be free in other country, like Putin's Russia, but they are fairly safe to speak out against Trump in OUR country.
You're the one who went off on Trump defense. Good puppet, good boy.
100% Trump is a superior President in interests of the Kremlin. There doesn't need to be fake news to know that.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmYou're the puppet because you believe all that fake news from the main stream media about Trump and Putin. You're a sucker for the fake news and that makes you Putin's bitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionIn your little puppet head, EVERYONE is Trump's bitch. I read part of it, yes we did some sanctions. I have no idea how that stuff relates to anything else, but I've consistently read how Trump idolizes Puton and I do not have a hard time believing it. He has expressed support for many crazy evil totalitarian government leaders - not just Putin.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
That isn't my point though, my point was only how people who don't work with Trump etc are a lot more free. They wouldn't be free in other country, like Putin's Russia, but they are fairly safe to speak out against Trump in OUR country.
You're the one who went off on Trump defense. Good puppet, good boy.
Russia does this sort of stuff. America does too, just not to such a degree. Given that Russia has been known to do this stuff for years and given how Facebook+twitter have come along, it only stands to reason that Russia WOULD ACTUALLY DO THIS.
So put 2 and 2 together. That doesn't mean Trump had any part in directing the Russian manipulations or he did anything particularly anti-American. TBH - I don't really know. I know there are a lot of dirtbags in his administration.
Funny how puppet acts like he knows what I believe. That what they tell themselves to feel right.
Democrats had tougher stance where it counts. Perhaps I am wrong, but your evidence is just one sided nonsense.
You show some list of sanctions, but it really is all relative.
Arguing with you is such a waste of time as you just dive off into fantasy land denial before admitting being wrong about anything. You're the puppet. It is clear as day to anyone thinking.
Basically the answer to Mickey 90% of the time is "Yes, good boy, you can use google to come up with evidence for any reasonably possible argument. That doesn't mean they're all true."
Putin's plan is/was to get lefty idiots like you to call Trump his bitch. His plan certainly worked as you lefties are calling Trump his bitch. THAT MAKES YOU, AND THE LEFTIES LIKE YOU, PUTIN'S BITCHES.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion100% Trump is a superior President in interests of the Kremlin. There doesn't need to be fake news to know that.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmYou're the puppet because you believe all that fake news from the main stream media about Trump and Putin. You're a sucker for the fake news and that makes you Putin's bitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
Russia does this sort of stuff. America does too, just not to such a degree. Given that Russia has been known to do this stuff for years and given how Facebook+twitter have come along, it only stands to reason that Russia WOULD ACTUALLY DO THIS.
So put 2 and 2 together. That doesn't mean Trump had any part in directing the Russian manipulations or he did anything particularly anti-American. TBH - I don't really know. I know there are a lot of dirtbags in his administration.
Funny how puppet acts like he knows what I believe. That what they tell themselves to feel right.
Democrats had tougher stance where it counts. Perhaps I am wrong, but your evidence is just one sided nonsense.
You show some list of sanctions, but it really is all relative.
Arguing with you is such a waste of time as you just dive off into fantasy land denial before admitting being wrong about anything. You're the puppet. It is clear as day to anyone thinking.
Basically the answer to Mickey 90% of the time is "Yes, good boy, you can use google to come up with evidence for any reasonably possible argument. That doesn't mean they're all true."
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Originally Posted by mickeycrimmPutin's plan is/was to get lefty idiots like you to call Trump his bitch. His plan certainly worked as you lefties are calling Trump his bitch. THAT MAKES YOU, AND THE LEFTIES LIKE YOU, PUTIN'S BITCHES.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion100% Trump is a superior President in interests of the Kremlin. There doesn't need to be fake news to know that.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Russia does this sort of stuff. America does too, just not to such a degree. Given that Russia has been known to do this stuff for years and given how Facebook+twitter have come along, it only stands to reason that Russia WOULD ACTUALLY DO THIS.
So put 2 and 2 together. That doesn't mean Trump had any part in directing the Russian manipulations or he did anything particularly anti-American. TBH - I don't really know. I know there are a lot of dirtbags in his administration.
Funny how puppet acts like he knows what I believe. That what they tell themselves to feel right.
Democrats had tougher stance where it counts. Perhaps I am wrong, but your evidence is just one sided nonsense.
You show some list of sanctions, but it really is all relative.
Arguing with you is such a waste of time as you just dive off into fantasy land denial before admitting being wrong about anything. You're the puppet. It is clear as day to anyone thinking.
Basically the answer to Mickey 90% of the time is "Yes, good boy, you can use google to come up with evidence for any reasonably possible argument. That doesn't mean they're all true."
sniff sniff.
I smell booze.
If thats your "go to" you are a weak fucking little peckerwood. You just made me count though. I'm in my 43rd month without a drink.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionQuote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmPutin's plan is/was to get lefty idiots like you to call Trump his bitch. His plan certainly worked as you lefties are calling Trump his bitch. THAT MAKES YOU, AND THE LEFTIES LIKE YOU, PUTIN'S BITCHES.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
sniff sniff.
I smell booze.
I smell skunk weed on you, doper. Do you got the munchies? Eat dog shit, deuchbag.
John Bolton's recent book was not to kind to the President. Bolton was highly critical of him. But Bolton was by the President's side the entire time they were in France. He says that if the President would have said anything dissing the troops he would have dedicated an entire chapter to it in his book. But he said it is patently untrue that the President dissed the troops.
Not really my "go to". You actually come off better if we can blame it on booze. Regardless, if you say you haven't drank in 43 months I have no reason to not believe you. Congrats.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmIf thats your "go to" you are a weak fucking little peckerwood. You just made me count though. I'm in my 43rd month without a drink.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionQuote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
sniff sniff.
I smell booze.
I smell skunk weed on you, doper. Do you got the munchies? Eat dog shit, deuchbag.
Weed doesn't give me the munchies. If anything I might eat less. Luckily I'm not a natural fatass.
I see acuntinquestion with Putin's giz in his mouth.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionI see a puppet with kool-aid stained lips.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmQ: Do you know how to tell when dems are lying?Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
A: Their lips are moving.
The dems throw up hoax after hoax after hoax about Trump. The press is even worse. Dems don't care about truth, only power. To them the end justifies the means.
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Originally Posted by mickeycrimmI see acuntinquestion with Putin's giz in his mouth.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionI see a puppet with kool-aid stained lips.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
giz is short for gizzards ?
Lol. The shit you come up with in your head is funny... not sure how Russians have manipulated me or what position I take that helps them. It isn't about me though, it is about what Mickey Crimm WANTS to believe.
You're a strange one. You're like some sort of Rainman but instead of memorizing things, you're good at gambling machines.
What I heard Bolton say was that he was present for a conversation about going to the cemetery and didn't hear what was alleged. He did say he would have included it in his book had he heard it. He also said that Trump may have said these things later. I'm confident that the claim that Bolton was by Trump's side the whole time he was in France to be completely fabricated and nonsensical. Does anyone here actually believe this?Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
By now I believe that Trump and his administration will say anything to get through a news cycle. Bolton has been critical of Trump. If Bolton had heard what is reported, he probably would have included it in his book. That he didn't hear it, makes me wonder if this part of the Atlantic story is true. Bolton's response does not disprove it, but does call it into question. It would be a much stronger pushback, if Bolton was saying that it couldn't have happened because he was involved in all the relevant conversations during that trip.
As a counterpoint, Trump claimed that he never claimed he called McCain a loser. He has. Trump also claimed that he was upset that he couldn't make the trip and called home to his wife to talk about it. Melania was with him in France. Lying to dispute a story Trump is labeling as lies is not a persuasive strategy with me.
I'm also wondering why Trump is not calling on John Kelly to tell what he knows about this. If the Atlantic story is not true, Kelly is in a position to punch enough holes in it to make it sink.
More dissonance:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/09/polit...rus/index.html
As is standard with Woodward, almost all of it is on tape.
There's much more coming. It was humorous watching The View this morning as Stephanie, author of "Melania and me", told her story. Every few minutes the Trump legal team sent legal notices basically saying she was a troubled woman, that they had to read on the air. As the old Chinese saying goes, "Pretty soon bus come."Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Sling, if you're really aligning yourself with a weirdo creep like red, you are truly a lost soul. Now I can see why you have such a hard time deciphering simple common sense. And if you're the same as redietz with no money invested in the stock market and you have no job, then I can see why you make such obscure comments about Trump and hope he loses the election.
And for your "moral authority" bloviations, no one has ever done more for minorities than this president. You're so confusingly caught up in the CNN interpretations of Trump's rallies, tweets and press conferences that you've corrupted your ability to figure out how decent the man really is.
Please wise up.
LOL. Now, Rob, people in glasshouses shouldn't throw...oh, wait, you have no house. Scratch that, then. My bad.
Guess I'm a lost cause. Even funnier was Sarah Huckabee's interview the day before. I swear they sit down a new press secretary and teach them to answer with " alternative facts" instead of directly answering the question. I actually couldn't tell if I was listening to Kayleigh McEnany, Kelly Conway, or if that was really Sarah Huckabee! And the same follow through- talk long and fast until it gets so bad SOMEONE has to say stop, please.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
If Woodward thought Trump playing down the disease was a huge danger to the country why didn't he report it when it happened? Did you criticize Woodward for sitting on such dangerous information? Fuck no. Ditz, you just keep getting ditzier. We can expect "bombshells" like this (actually duds) to fall everyday until election day. The Dems are desperate.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Actually, mickey, fuck yes. I just got off the phone with the former CFO of a pharmaceutical firm. He called to ask, given my journalism background, what I thought of Woodward sitting on the tapes this long. My answer was that I could not in good conscience, in Woodward's shoes, sat on them longer than the March tapes. I would have felt both a national obligation and an obligation in terms of saving lives to have gone full blown public at that time.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmIf Woodward thought Trump playing down the disease was a huge danger to the country why didn't he report it when it happened? Did you criticize Woodward for sitting on such dangerous information? Fuck no. Ditz, you just keep getting ditzier. We can expect "bombshells" like this (actually duds) to fall everyday until election day. The Dems are desperate.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
In fact, to take it a step further, I think Bernstein knew about the tapes. That's why he was so damning of Trump in tone during his interviews without adding any additional insider information. So I think to the degree that Bernstein knew what was on the tapes, he also had an obligation to make them public even though they were Woodward's property.
Sometimes, mickey, you simply don't know what you're talking about. That's increasingly the case. And before spouting off, if you want the email of the former CFO to discuss my conversation with him today, PM me and I will send it along. But agree to email him and report the conversation here.
Woodward is just as guilty as the rest. The only viable excuse was the author of "Melania and Me" who claims to have hit the record button after she was used, sold out, and tossed as a loser.
There has to be some way you could measure what it'd take from a man to psychology separate from his master instead of just absolute denial. Like where is that line of decency in a person?Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmIf Woodward thought Trump playing down the disease was a huge danger to the country why didn't he report it when it happened? Did you criticize Woodward for sitting on such dangerous information? Fuck no. Ditz, you just keep getting ditzier. We can expect "bombshells" like this (actually duds) to fall everyday until election day. The Dems are desperate.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Clue bus coming down the road here.
Bob Woodward is not the President.
Fuck the dumb ass CFO and fuck your dumb ass. You just keep fucking doing it don't you, puke. Nothing but fake fucking fake fucking fake fucking moral outrage from you. Do you ever listen to your punk ass dropping fucking names all the time. You know this person and you know that person and because of it you know a hell of a lot. No, fuck you, YOU DON'T!!! You're a village fucking idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzActually, mickey, fuck yes. I just got off the phone with the former CFO of a pharmaceutical firm. He called to ask, given my journalism background, what I thought of Woodward sitting on the tapes this long. My answer was that I could not in good conscience, in Woodward's shoes, sat on them longer than the March tapes. I would have felt both a national obligation and an obligation in terms of saving lives to have gone full blown public at that time.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmIf Woodward thought Trump playing down the disease was a huge danger to the country why didn't he report it when it happened? Did you criticize Woodward for sitting on such dangerous information? Fuck no. Ditz, you just keep getting ditzier. We can expect "bombshells" like this (actually duds) to fall everyday until election day. The Dems are desperate.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
In fact, to take it a step further, I think Bernstein knew about the tapes. That's why he was so damning of Trump in tone during his interviews without adding any additional insider information. So I think to the degree that Bernstein knew what was on the tapes, he also had an obligation to make them public even though they were Woodward's property.
Sometimes, mickey, you simply don't know what you're talking about. That's increasingly the case. And before spouting off, if you want the email of the former CFO to discuss my conversation with him today, PM me and I will send it along. But agree to email him and report the conversation here.
You don't remember Dems spouting off about "go on out and play, everybody." You don't remember Fauci saying "Go on, go to the Super Bowl. Have a blast." THAT GOT THOUSANDS KILLED!! No, you dont remember any of that shit. YOU JUST WANT TO PUT IT ALL ON TRUMP BECAUSE YOU ARE A FASCIST SOCIALIST PIG.
When Fauci played it down Trump played it down. When Fauci played it up Trump played it up. What the fuck else was he supposed to do? He's not a fucking scientist. But your fascist socialist pig ass puts the whole thing on Trump. You are a straight up bag of shit THAT HAS NO CLUE WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
The Woodward story is just a bunch of hot air about nothing. It's a fucking nothingburger.
Now FUCK OFF AND DIE, BITCH
Smoke some more dope, loser. And ask you mommy to wipe your ass.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionThere has to be some way you could measure what it'd take from a man to psychology separate from his master instead of just absolute denial. Like where is that line of decency in a person?Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmIf Woodward thought Trump playing down the disease was a huge danger to the country why didn't he report it when it happened? Did you criticize Woodward for sitting on such dangerous information? Fuck no. Ditz, you just keep getting ditzier. We can expect "bombshells" like this (actually duds) to fall everyday until election day. The Dems are desperate.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Clue bus coming down the road here.
Bob Woodward is not the President.
This is primo good shit right here. I love it. You ever smoke pot Mickey? Or were you too scared?Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmSmoke some more dope, loser. And ask you mommy to wipe your ass.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionThere has to be some way you could measure what it'd take from a man to psychology separate from his master instead of just absolute denial. Like where is that line of decency in a person?Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Clue bus coming down the road here.
Bob Woodward is not the President.
edit - I'll be honest - I just smoked a good deal of THC and thats why the mommy wiping my ass thing had me in stitches. It is good to laugh.
Redietz is a straight up fucking coward. Pelosi and the Dems played down virus. Fauci played down the virus.Trump played down the virus. Not one peep out of redietz about Fauci and the Dems. It's all Trumps fault. Fuck you, redietz. You're a goddam coward.
Even if we agree Fauci played it down, you understand there is a huge difference in magnitude?Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Fauci is not some Democrat stooge BTW. You need to get out of the house more so to speak. Read some new news sources. Pull it together.
So why did Trump never fire Fauci? Is that something he can't actually do? Or did he know it'd just be that bad of a look. Thats one thing I never understood. Fauci has been a thorn in the side of the way the President has wanted to run things.
Trump wanted to run this shit proper. No tests. No records. Let is just plow through everyone at once without masks. Running from within that context it seems kinda obvious Fauci is going to have to navigate politics. I wouldn't assume Fauci got to speak 100% what he wanted to say. Trump did though.
I tuned into the NFL's first game 15 minutes ago and it's been nothing but a bunch of black shit. Instead of appeasing these thugs, how about somebody ask them why so many black punks kill other black punks---every day!? Not that we disapprove.....
I really hope Rodgers or Brady or Brees wins the MVP and Super Bowl this year. I'm sick and tired of all the praise being bestowed on black QB's when NONE of them will ever have a career like the big three.
I felt cheated on the Saint's call that kept them outta the Super Bowl. The game EVERYONE wanted- Brees/Brady! After that, my interest left. That would have been THE game of Super Bowl history-TWO great quarterbacks, two great coaches, two great franchises.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer