Caesars Rewards/Mlife "day of play" Daily Theo

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Hi, I'm sure this has been asked multiple times but things change so who knows.

A certain CET property resets their day of play at 6am. Meaning the TCs earned begins anew at that time. (if you're trying to earn bonuses, or when a certain promo or multiplier ends) But does anyone know how/when it interacts with other activities? Such as spending reward credits, or checking into a property. Say I want to check in on Friday night, but have no intention of playing until Saturday morning, will that affect my comps negatively? What if I DONT check in, or use my reward credits (NOT food comps) at a restaurant? Does all of those count as a day of play?

Would like a discussion going regarding this and other related information on what we can or should not do if we don't intend to play on a specific day. What else can be done to preserve the Daily theo.

I'm a diamond lounge level card holder (what the hell do they call this card level now, I cannot figure it out). I also have a Gold Mlife card, because of my Hyatt Rewards program. But I have no experience with Mlife properties, and would also be ears to related discussion about daily theo and other strategies from Mlife properties.

I am making an LV trip in the next couple weeks or so. I play mostly video poker and I'm fine playing $5 per hand at 'bad' games that return around 97%-99%

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Originally Posted by ccship

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Hi, I'm sure this has been asked multiple times but things change so who knows.

A certain CET property resets their day of play at 6am. Meaning the TCs earned begins anew at that time. (if you're trying to earn bonuses, or when a certain promo or multiplier ends) But does anyone know how/when it interacts with other activities? Such as spending reward credits, or checking into a property. Say I want to check in on Friday night, but have no intention of playing until Saturday morning, will that affect my comps negatively? What if I DONT check in, or use my reward credits (NOT food comps) at a restaurant? Does all of those count as a day of play?

Would like a discussion going regarding this and other related information on what we can or should not do if we don't intend to play on a specific day. What else can be done to preserve the Daily theo.

I'm a diamond lounge level card holder (what the hell do they call this card level now, I cannot figure it out). I also have a Gold Mlife card, because of my Hyatt Rewards program. But I have no experience with Mlife properties, and would also be ears to related discussion about daily theo and other strategies from Mlife properties.

I am making an LV trip in the next couple weeks or so. I play mostly video poker and I'm fine playing $5 per hand at 'bad' games that return around 97%-99%

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At most ceasars properties you are tripped out for two days even when staying only one

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At most ceasars properties you are tripped out for two days even when staying only one

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That makes sense, as if you are checking in a certain day and checking out the next, its 2 days.

So even though you are told to leave your room at 11am or noon, give or take. They expect a day of play out of you.

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Originally Posted by ccplay

That makes sense, as if you are checking in a certain day and checking out the next, its 2 days.

So even though you are told to leave your room at 11am or noon, give or take. They expect a day of play out of you.

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I'm pretty certain you interpret that wrong.

They don't expect a second day of play even though you were there two days

Ok so the day I check out I do not have to play. But the day I check in, I am?

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Originally Posted by ccship

Ok so the day I check out I do not have to play. But the day I check in, I am?

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If they trip you for a hotel stay and they trip you for two days it doesn't matter how you do it.

Play only the day you check in or

Play only the day you check out

Or play both days.

You have been tripped for two days as in one combined trip

I've been in Vegas for something like three weeks now. I never play on checkout day, and I almost never play on check in day.

First resort, end bill was about five hunny, and that was just tips and spa retail (spa services covered 100%). And I won money.

Second resort, the total bill was barely over a hundred dollars. Again, all spa services were covered, only thing left was spa retail and tips. We ate only take-out in-suite food that leg of the trip (pretty much ate only take-out at the first resort too), so restaurant tips were almost nothing. And I won at that resort too.

There is no need to knock yourself out playing on check in or check out days. You'll generally be tired on check in days, so why give them any edge? Check out days you're under time constraints which is also a bad scenario under which to play.

So no you do not need to play on check in or check out days to be fully comp'ed. I probably average three or four hours a day for the days I play NOT for every night of the stay, and I still get fully comp'ed. At the first resort my average bet was probably something like a thousand, at the second more like seven hundred. Table games only.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

I've been in Vegas for something like three weeks now. I never play on checkout day, and I almost never play on check in day.

First resort, end bill was about five hunny, and that was just tips and spa retail (spa services covered 100%). And I won money.

Second resort, the total bill was barely over a hundred dollars. Again, all spa services were covered, only thing left was spa retail and tips. We ate only take-out in-suite food that leg of the trip (pretty much ate only take-out at the first resort too), so restaurant tips were almost nothing. And I won at that resort too.

There is no need to knock yourself out playing on check in or check out days. You'll generally be tired on check in days, so why give them any edge? Check out days you're under time constraints which is also a bad scenario under which to play.

So no you do not need to play on check in or check out days to be fully comp'ed. I probably average three or four hours a day for the days I play NOT for every night of the stay, and I still get fully comp'ed. At the first resort my average bet was probably something like a thousand, at the second more like seven hundred. Table games only.

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Just curious how much freeplay you get per day?

You know, that's a good question.

Through this stay I've seen people show up with promotional chips $100.s and $500.s and plop them on the Baccarat table. I've seen players show up with as much as a couple grand in these chips. I haven't watched ultra closely but I think on some of the chips if they win they get to keep the chips for another bet, which are the best kind of freeplay chips.

I haven't asked for any, because I have been winning. Years ago (we're talking before that decade or so hiatus from gaming of mine), when I used to have savage up and down trips, they would hand me as much as five grand of those free chips at a time.

At the first resort, since I had not played at that resort in many many years, I asked what it would take to get my player card back to gold. Was told a 15,000 theo loss. I passed that. Then I needed a 30,000 theo loss to get to platinum (their highest level), and by the time we checked out was told I was just a hair under that. I ended up winning not a huge amount, just a couple grand on that leg of the trip but over the course of the trip at that first resort with bets I put for the dealers next to mine I probably tipped out as much as I won, so maybe they have me down for a 4000 win that trip. In any case I won.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

You know, that's a good question.

Through this stay I've seen people show up with promotional chips $100.s and $500.s and plop them on the Baccarat table. I've seen players show up with as much as a couple grand in these chips. I haven't watched ultra closely but I think on some of the chips if they win they get to keep the chips for another bet, which are the best kind of freeplay chips.

I haven't asked for any, because I have been winning. Years ago (we're talking before that decade or so hiatus from gaming of mine), when I used to have savage up and down trips, they would hand me as much as five grand of those free chips at a time.

At the first resort, since I had not played at that resort in many many years, I asked what it would take to get my player card back to gold. Was told a 15,000 theo loss. I passed that. Then I needed a 30,000 theo loss to get to platinum (their highest level), and by the time we checked out was told I was just a hair under that. I ended up winning not a huge amount, just a couple grand on that leg of the trip but over the course of the trip at that first resort with bets I put for the dealers next to mine I probably tipped out as much as I won, so maybe they have me down for a 4000 win that trip. In any case I won.

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Correct me if I’m wrong but FP (slot or table play) offers don’t get asked for. They are sent based on previous action through, win or lose.

As I don’t play table games at the limits you do, maybe you can get more if you ask, like discretionary comps. And if you can and don’t as, regardless of winning or losing, it just shows again you are leaving money on the table.

But of course we all understand you have been in Vegas weeks playing a negative game and are up of course. And helped another poster on here win $400,000.

It’s good to be MDawg, lol.

One thing I'm curious about - my general impression, is that they are comp'ing more right now than pre-pandemic.

We stayed twelve nights at that first resort in an 1850 square foot suite that, I checked, was about $600. a night (estimating - that particular level of suite we were in does not show as available for booking because it is top tier, but the 1500 square foot suite that is just below it is around $450. a night). This is less than half of what that suite cost per night pre-pandemic, as all room rates are much lower these days at least at that resort, but anyway, figure $600. a night. Then we also added resort fee to the stay, which is another $50. a night. All this was comp'ed up front.

P.S. I did not come in and say "hey guys we're staying twelve nights." We booked for five, then kept extending a few days at a time. I've always done it that way.

The spa that she had comp'ed was around $1000.

We were pretty cheap dates this time around, but still, food daily was average $150. (partly because sometimes we just got food from places that took cash only no room charge, such as off-property). So that's another $1800.

Total comps would be in the neighborhood then of $10,600. if I am estimating the room price correctly (based on rack rate). That's a good 30% of my theoretical loss, more than 30% actually. That's a very solid comp, especially considering that I won, and more than I expected actually. I was actually a little surprised that both resorts comp'ed all spa services - didn't even need to ask actually.

Maybe they are trying hard to reel in the high rollers right now.


Compare this to that stay a couple years ago, not at this resort but another one that is probably not even quite as top tier, but definitely up there, where after we stayed two weeks the host refused to pick up about $800. as I recall in remaining food and spa, after comp'ing the suite and most of the food. Host said, "NOBODY stays two weeks at the ______." (That two year or so ago trip ended up winning a fair amount though, so maybe host was looking at that, but the win shouldn't matter, the theo loss should.) Yet this trip, I got the impression that the host would have let us stay even longer. I mean, whenever I asked for another three days I kept wording it in terms of "If you don't mind...." and the response was so easy going that I understood it to mean that we could have stayed longer.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

One thing I'm curious about - my general impression, is that they are comp'ing more right now than pre-pandemic.

We stayed twelve nights at that first resort in an 1850 square foot suite that, I checked, was about $600. a night (estimating - that particular level of suite we were in does not show as available for booking because it is top tier, but the 1500 square foot suite that is just below it is around $450. a night). This is less than half of what that suite cost per night pre-pandemic, as all room rates are much lower these days at least at that resort, but anyway, figure $600. a night. Then we also added resort fee to the stay, which is another $50. a night. All this was comp'ed up front.

P.S. I did not come in and say "hey guys we're staying twelve nights." We booked for five, then kept extending a few days at a time. I've always done it that way.

The spa that she had comp'ed was around $1000.

We were pretty cheap dates this time around, but still, food daily was average $150. (partly because sometimes we just got food from places that took cash only no room charge, such as off-property). So that's another $1800.

Total comps would be in the neighborhood then of $10,600. if I am estimating the room price correctly. That's a good 30% of my theoretical loss, more than 30% actually. That's a very solid comp, and more than I expected actually. I was actually a little surprised that both resorts comp'ed all spa services - didn't even need to ask actually.

Maybe they are trying hard to reel in the high rollers right now.

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You do know the female director that sits in charge of everything at Caesar's Palace is over at the Flamingo working out of an office whenever there's a problem with one of the top-tier executive hosts or questions, she's the one that gets the call.

I find it hard to believe MDawg gets no mailers with Freeplay. He doesn't check his mail from casinos. And would not want any freeplay because he is such a successful winner

I guess one of the main reasons I asked about these scenarios, is because I usually arrive and check-in when it is just about midnight, or even after midnight - So that would be a very late check-in. And in the same way, there are times when I need to leave the hotel in the middle of the night. Mostly due to work reasons.

Most often I don't like a 9-5 lifestyle, I do run a lot through the machines, but just not structured day by day. I just wonder how much is that screwing me in offers.

As far as the days where I am in Vegas for the whole day, meaning if I have a 4 day hotel stay, I am speaking for day 2 and 3. I will generally play over 10 hours for each of those days. I generally don't roam around or go to shows etc. I just play and eat.

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Originally Posted by Darkoz

I find it hard to believe MDawg gets no mailers with Freeplay. He doesn't check his mail from casinos. And would not want any freeplay because he is such a successful winner

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MDawg does not appear to be aware that freeplay offers come through the mail.

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Originally Posted by Darkoz

I find it hard to believe MDawg gets no mailers with Freeplay. He doesn't check his mail from casinos. And would not want any freeplay because he is such a successful winner

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MDawg does not appear to be aware that freeplay offers come through the mail.

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Yeah something smells and it ain't bacon

ccship - all that makes sense.


Of all the casinos I go to only one mails me anything and whatever they mail me just duplicates the emails. High end players don't want crap being mailed to them. It may have something to do with not wanting whoever gets your mail (i.e. your spouse!) knowing that you gamble. In my case, not an issue my wife travels with me and knows everything that's going on, but most big players do not want anything mailed to them.

"Free play" is primarily for slots players anyway. Or for table games players who lose a lot and then the casino wants to help them out and feel better about their losses. I don't fall in either category.

How would any of you know about free play chips? You guys never played anything significant at a table game under a real identity. I'd rather get no response at a forum than a response from people who have no idea. If you want to follow my Adventures you know where to find me.

Hey DarkOz in case you haven't noticed your CYDY is in the toilet again. Once again, for the second (or third?) time you held a modest winner all the way down to a big loser.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

ccship - all that makes sense.


Of all the casinos I go to only one mails me anything and whatever they mail me just duplicates the emails. High end players don't want crap being mailed to them. It may have something to do with not wanting whoever gets your mail (i.e. your spouse!) knowing that you gamble. In my case, not an issue my wife travels with me and knows everything that's going on, but most big players do not want anything mailed to them.

"Free play" is primarily for slots players anyway. Or for table games players who lose a lot and then the casino wants to help them out and feel better about their losses. I don't fall in either category.

How would any of you know about free play chips? You guys never played anything significant at a table game under a real identity. I'd rather get no response at a forum than a response from people who have no idea. If you want to follow my Adventures you know where to find me.

Hey DarkOz in case you haven't noticed your CYDY is in the toilet again. Once again, for the second (or third?) time you held a modest winner all the way down to a big loser.

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Mdawg, everything you posted above it’s pretty much completely inaccurate

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Originally Posted by MDawg

ccship - all that makes sense.


Of all the casinos I go to only one mails me anything and whatever they mail me just duplicates the emails. High end players don't want crap being mailed to them. It may have something to do with not wanting whoever gets your mail (i.e. your spouse!) knowing that you gamble. In my case, not an issue my wife travels with me and knows everything that's going on, but most big players do not want anything mailed to them.

"Free play" is primarily for slots players anyway. Or for table games players who lose a lot and then the casino wants to help them out and feel better about their losses. I don't fall in either category.

How would any of you know about free play chips? You guys never played anything significant at a table game under a real identity. I'd rather get no response at a forum than a response from people who have no idea. If you want to follow my Adventures you know where to find me.

Hey DarkOz in case you haven't noticed your CYDY is in the toilet again. Once again, for the second (or third?) time you held a modest winner all the way down to a big loser.

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Until I sell my holdings or Cytodyn goes out of business I haven't lost anything. I still own the same portion of the company.

Again, for someone who claims to understand business and stocks, Cytodyn is a pre-revenue drug Development company so the stock is volatile until FDA approval which takes a long time.

As for this whole Freeplay thing you claim not to receive, that has to be the biggest crock of bullshit I ever heard

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Mdawg, everything you posted above it’s pretty much completely inaccurate

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You're trying to tell the Pope he's not Catholic. I can only relate my own actual experience.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

One thing I'm curious about - my general impression, is that they are comp'ing more right now than pre-pandemic.

We stayed twelve nights at that first resort in an 1850 square foot suite that, I checked, was about $600. a night (estimating - that particular level of suite we were in does not show as available for booking because it is top tier, but the 1500 square foot suite that is just below it is around $450. a night). This is less than half of what that suite cost per night pre-pandemic, as all room rates are much lower these days at least at that resort, but anyway, figure $600. a night. Then we also added resort fee to the stay, which is another $50. a night. All this was comp'ed up front.

P.S. I did not come in and say "hey guys we're staying twelve nights." We booked for five, then kept extending a few days at a time. I've always done it that way.

The spa that she had comp'ed was around $1000.

We were pretty cheap dates this time around, but still, food daily was average $150. (partly because sometimes we just got food from places that took cash only no room charge, such as off-property). So that's another $1800.

Total comps would be in the neighborhood then of $10,600. if I am estimating the room price correctly (based on rack rate). That's a good 30% of my theoretical loss, more than 30% actually. That's a very solid comp, especially considering that I won, and more than I expected actually. I was actually a little surprised that both resorts comp'ed all spa services - didn't even need to ask actually.

Maybe they are trying hard to reel in the high rollers right now.


Compare this to that stay a couple years ago, not at this resort but another one that is probably not even quite as top tier, but definitely up there, where after we stayed two weeks the host refused to pick up about $800. as I recall in remaining food and spa, after comp'ing the suite and most of the food. Host said, "NOBODY stays two weeks at the ______." (That two year or so ago trip ended up winning a fair amount though, so maybe host was looking at that, but the win shouldn't matter, the theo loss should.) Yet this trip, I got the impression that the host would have let us stay even longer. I mean, whenever I asked for another three days I kept wording it in terms of "If you don't mind...." and the response was so easy going that I understood it to mean that we could have stayed longer.

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I guess if I could help it, it might be better to book as least nights as possible and have it extended as needed. As I should definitely have enough play to qualify. It's not like I get a great room either, i'm not rich. I just get standard rooms, my only preference is a low floor near the elevator. I don't want to walk as much :D

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Mdawg, everything you posted above it’s pretty much completely inaccurate

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You're trying to tell the Pope he's not Catholic. I can only relate my own actual experience.

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Which is another reason your experiences appear more and more like bullshit.

Yes, some marketing departments don't send mailers. This usually upon request which it is clear you didn't do. Otherwise it's automatic.

Casinos don't assume high rollers don't want mail. In fact, quite the opposite. They assume they want to have offers thrown at them and the mail is just one form of doing that.

Your combined claims (you always have winning trips at negative ev games while hosts compliment you for never losing, don't question it and invite you back while somehow not giving you any freeplay (which you mistakenly think is only to help compensate losing players) points to the distinct possibility that every claim you have made regarding casino trips is a paid for Vacation on your own dime.

It probably makes sense since at one point you were so proud of being comped free ketchup bottles

Tell it!!

cya.

You know it's like you guys see a real pretty girl in the street and you drool over her and you realize you cannot have her and then you go home to your overweight out of shape used and abused woman with three or four tattoos of her ex lovers names all over body and then you want the girl you had seen in the street that you drooled over, finally realizing you'll never see her again you break down and cry.

I got some information for you, MDawg is tired of you idiots. He has left the building!

You beat yourself by mere seconds. Timing at it's finest !!

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Originally Posted by MDawg

How would any of you know about free play chips?

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You might be surprised at what some of us know about freeplay chips....and how to capture their maximum value. It would be interesting to see you give us all a clinic on how to gain their maximum value. Why don't you give us a clinic?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...7rxld70lTS83yJ

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Originally Posted by Advantageplay

Mdawg, everything you posted above it’s pretty much completely inaccurate

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You're trying to tell the Pope he's not Catholic. I can only relate my own actual experience.

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Which is another reason your experiences appear more and more like bullshit.

Yes, some marketing departments don't send mailers. This usually upon request which it is clear you didn't do. Otherwise it's automatic.

Casinos don't assume high rollers don't want mail. In fact, quite the opposite. They assume they want to have offers thrown at them and the mail is just one form of doing that.

Your combined claims (you always have winning trips at negative ev games while hosts compliment you for never losing, don't question it and invite you back while somehow not giving you any freeplay (which you mistakenly think is only to help compensate losing players) points to the distinct possibility that every claim you have made regarding casino trips is a paid for Vacation on your own dime.

It probably makes sense since at one point you were so proud of being comped free ketchup bottles

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Congratulations to DarkOz! For showing I, like any semi knowledgeable casino patron, agrees with him.

While myself and many others think DarkOz brags way too much and gives too much away, I don’t debate he knows his stuff. Who other than either a sock of his or a psychopath believes MDawg?

If he made MD run away again, more power to him.

*But you still are gambling and not investing in CYDY.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

How would any of you know about free play chips?

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You might be surprised at what some of us know about freeplay chips....and how to capture their maximum value. It would be interesting to see you give us all a clinic on how to gain their maximum value. Why don't you give us a clinic?

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One can’t give a clinic when they don’t need, accept or ask for them. When you win at will on negative games and tip thousands more, you can’t be bothered with such minor details.

This guy makes Don Johnson look like more and more of a schmuk with every post for needing rebates to beat the casinos.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

You're trying to tell the Pope he's not Catholic. I can only relate my own actual experience.

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Which is another reason your experiences appear more and more like bullshit.

Yes, some marketing departments don't send mailers. This usually upon request which it is clear you didn't do. Otherwise it's automatic.

Casinos don't assume high rollers don't want mail. In fact, quite the opposite. They assume they want to have offers thrown at them and the mail is just one form of doing that.

Your combined claims (you always have winning trips at negative ev games while hosts compliment you for never losing, don't question it and invite you back while somehow not giving you any freeplay (which you mistakenly think is only to help compensate losing players) points to the distinct possibility that every claim you have made regarding casino trips is a paid for Vacation on your own dime.

It probably makes sense since at one point you were so proud of being comped free ketchup bottles

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Congratulations to DarkOz! For showing I, like any semi knowledgeable casino patron, agrees with him.

While myself and many others think DarkOz brags way too much and gives too much away, I don’t debate he knows his stuff. Who other than either a sock of his or a psychopath believes MDawg?

If he made MD run away again, more power to him.

*But you still are gambling and not investing in CYDY.

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Thanks

I am most definitely a braggart. I admit it.

But an honest one. Note I had the balls to post my stock pick before I brag. MDawg always brags afterwards. A Braggart version of past-posting.

If Cytodyn finally does crash and burn I will painfully own it. However if I am eventually proven right and make good money on it, no one can accuse me of making my success up.

Except for Blackhole who still questions my investment. I would think being open about investing in a stock that has gone down recently would not be so doubted, lol

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Originally Posted by MDawg

my general impression, is that they are comp'ing more right now than pre-pandemic

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When the host comps incidentals that were charged to the room, do the charges show up in the debit column on your folio by date, with the host's corresponding credit to cover the charges posted on the bottom of the folio at the end of the stay?

Or do the room charges that were comped not even show up on the folio?

Last I heard, this is how it works:

If you check into the hotel, you are in the system for 2 days of play, regardless of how much you actually play. The timing of the play doesn't matter (if you do it right when you check in, during the middle, etc). If you check in, run play to rack up $4000 worth of theo, and check out after 1 or 2 nights, your ADT is $2000.

If you do not check into the hotel, you are only in the system for each day you show up there. However, if you come on consecutive days, it counts as one "trip", as if you had stayed there. I am not sure how it works if you aren't staying there, show up on one day, and then show up again 2 days later.

Regarding the play times, this only matters if you aren't staying there. If you're staying there, it's a 2-day minimum trip, and the number of days beyond that matches how many days your hotel is booked. If you aren't staying there, I believe it does track it by Caesars day, which usually begins around 6am. So if you show up at 5am, play 2 hours, and quit, it might track you as 2 days. Maybe they have a mechanism to stop that from happening, but I wouldn't chance it.

Also be aware that they utilize something called Marketing Daily Value (MDV), which is your ADT minus any comps redeemed (food, rooms, freeplay, etc). They base your comps on MDV, not ADT, in most cases. However, there's more complexities which go into it, and I won't discuss those out here.

Additionally, do NOT swipe your card for anything if you're not staying there and you aren't playing that day. That will count as a trip. That means don't swipe it for parking, RCs at the restaurants, gift shop, etc, unless you're either playing a lot, staying there, or don't care about your ADT. Actually not a bad idea to get someone else's card for the parking, in the case you're going to visit without playing sometimes (if you care about your ADT).

Some of this might be different now, given the weird state of Vegas at the moment.

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They base your comps on MDV, not ADT, in most cases. However, there's more complexities which go into it, and I won't discuss those out here.

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Where will you discuss those complexities, if not here?

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They base your comps on MDV, not ADT, in most cases. However, there's more complexities which go into it, and I won't discuss those out here.

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Where will you discuss those complexities, if not here?

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Druff needs to make a new sub-forum where everyone who doesn't totally lurk and isn't a total troll gains access. It'd be far more interesting. Fuck people could still troll, but at least the non-participants / randoms wouldn't be able to read lesser known things.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Last I heard, this is how it works:

If you check into the hotel, you are in the system for 2 days of play, regardless of how much you actually play. The timing of the play doesn't matter (if you do it right when you check in, during the middle, etc). If you check in, run play to rack up $4000 worth of theo, and check out after 1 or 2 nights, your ADT is $2000.

If you do not check into the hotel, you are only in the system for each day you show up there. However, if you come on consecutive days, it counts as one "trip", as if you had stayed there. I am not sure how it works if you aren't staying there, show up on one day, and then show up again 2 days later.

Regarding the play times, this only matters if you aren't staying there. If you're staying there, it's a 2-day minimum trip, and the number of days beyond that matches how many days your hotel is booked. If you aren't staying there, I believe it does track it by Caesars day, which usually begins around 6am. So if you show up at 5am, play 2 hours, and quit, it might track you as 2 days. Maybe they have a mechanism to stop that from happening, but I wouldn't chance it.

Also be aware that they utilize something called Marketing Daily Value (MDV), which is your ADT minus any comps redeemed (food, rooms, freeplay, etc). They base your comps on MDV, not ADT, in most cases. However, there's more complexities which go into it, and I won't discuss those out here.

Additionally, do NOT swipe your card for anything if you're not staying there and you aren't playing that day. That will count as a trip. That means don't swipe it for parking, RCs at the restaurants, gift shop, etc, unless you're either playing a lot, staying there, or don't care about your ADT. Actually not a bad idea to get someone else's card for the parking, in the case you're going to visit without playing sometimes (if you care about your ADT).

Some of this might be different now, given the weird state of Vegas at the moment.

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This is in-line with most of what I knew and believed.

What's new to me is the Consecutive days counting as one trip. I think thats what Stations treats me so well, Many times I visit 2-3 days in a row without staying at all.

So as far as swiping the card for parking, I also think it triggers a gaming day. But FABismonte replied on a different topic of mine, saying that it Doesn't (for Caesars at least)

I said I was going to go to Vegas in the next month or so, park at Harrahs, not play at all and go straight to the Mirage. Let's see what happens. My ADT is already atrocious because I mostly just milk them for the hotel stay, which I elaborate more on the other topic here:
https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...-trip-strategy

Hopefully more people will reply regarding the topic like you did Dan, instead of hitting each other in the head with a plastic hammer, which, for the record is amusing but I don't know the history between you all.

If your ADT is already atrocious, then using them for parking and not playing won't answer anything. My ADT is also atrocious in the Vegas Caesars market, so I also don't care about being tripped.

I'm not 100% sure if the parking counts. I don't like to do anything to indicate I'm on property, even if I'm told it doesn't count. You get a million different answers from Caesars employees, and none are reliable.

Consecutive days counting as one trip doesn't matter too much if you're not staying on property. Yes, a trip of $100 theo followed by $9900 theo the next day is different than a 2-day trip with $10000 Theo, but it's still averaging to $5000 per day.

As I said, Caesars is more into the MDV calculation. Basically they're asking themselves, "After all is said and done, how much money can we expect to make from this person per day?"

BTW, I have found that the "reset period" is somewhere between 18-24 months. That is, if you don't set foot on any Caesars property (or if you at least never swipe your card or indicate you're there), it somewhat forgets about your past history and you can start semi-fresh. This isn't as good as a new card, of course, but it's a good way to restart offers after they've gone cold. This may not work in 2020-2021, though.

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How would any of you know about free play chips?

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You might be surprised at what some of us know about freeplay chips....and how to capture their maximum value. It would be interesting to see you give us all a clinic on how to gain their maximum value. Why don't you give us a clinic?

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One can’t give a clinic when they don’t need, accept or ask for them. When you win at will on negative games and tip thousands more, you can’t be bothered with such minor details.

This guy makes Don Johnson look like more and more of a schmuk with every post for needing rebates to beat the casinos.

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I figured challenging MDawg to give us a clinic on freeplay chips would send him scurrying for the hills. Looks like I was right. He hasn't been back in this thread.

Hey people, wise the fuck up!

The reason MDawg hasn't been back to this thread is he doesn't have time for stupid white trash!

Okay? You comprehend? That's the reason why!!!!!!

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Hey people, wise the fuck up!

The reason MDawg hasn't been back to this thread is he doesn't have time for stupid white trash!

Okay? You comprehend? That's the reason why!!!!!!

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If he doesn't have time for white trash I suggest using Hefty 32 gallon black trash bags instead

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If your ADT is already atrocious, then using them for parking and not playing won't answer anything. My ADT is also atrocious in the Vegas Caesars market, so I also don't care about being tripped.

I'm not 100% sure if the parking counts. I don't like to do anything to indicate I'm on property, even if I'm told it doesn't count. You get a million different answers from Caesars employees, and none are reliable.

Consecutive days counting as one trip doesn't matter too much if you're not staying on property. Yes, a trip of $100 theo followed by $9900 theo the next day is different than a 2-day trip with $10000 Theo, but it's still averaging to $5000 per day.

As I said, Caesars is more into the MDV calculation. Basically they're asking themselves, "After all is said and done, how much money can we expect to make from this person per day?"

BTW, I have found that the "reset period" is somewhere between 18-24 months. That is, if you don't set foot on any Caesars property (or if you at least never swipe your card or indicate you're there), it somewhat forgets about your past history and you can start semi-fresh. This isn't as good as a new card, of course, but it's a good way to restart offers after they've gone cold. This may not work in 2020-2021, though.

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Years ago, my ADT was trashed by the time I finally learned that sticking in my CET card into a kiosk to monitor my RC's triggered gaming days.

It caused me to avoid CET action for a couple of years, I guess that was enough time to "reset" when I gave it action again.

If parking triggers a gaming day, then you had better guard your Platinum and higher tier card and not leave it in a machine. Because that will allow someone to take it and get free parking to your detriment which will give free parking to another, while trashing your ADT. If parking does not trigger a gaming day, then such a scenario would be of little consequence.

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Hey people, wise the fuck up!

The reason MDawg hasn't been back to this thread is he doesn't have time for stupid white trash!

Okay? You comprehend? That's the reason why!!!!!!

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Nope. He exposed himself for not knowing a damn thing about freeplay so he hauled ass until he can maybe bone up on it a little. No one, I repeat, no one, I'll say again, no one that claims as much experience as he does would not know about freeplay. Repeat, no one that claims as much experience as he does would not know about freeplay. I'll say again, no one that claims as much experience as he does would not know about freeplay. (mic drop)

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Hey people, wise the fuck up!

The reason MDawg hasn't been back to this thread is he doesn't have time for stupid white trash!

Okay? You comprehend? That's the reason why!!!!!!

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Nope. He exposed himself for not knowing a damn thing about freeplay so he hauled ass until he can maybe bone up on it a little. No one, I repeat, no one, I'll say again, no one that claims as much experience as he does would not know about freeplay. Repeat, no one that claims as much experience as he does would not know about freeplay. I'll say again, no one that claims as much experience as he does would not know about freeplay. (mic drop)

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I know you hate me Mickey but you speak truth above

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Originally Posted by Wynnpleasure775

Hey people, wise the fuck up!

The reason MDawg hasn't been back to this thread is he doesn't have time for stupid white trash!

Okay? You comprehend? That's the reason why!!!!!!

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Nope. He exposed himself for not knowing a damn thing about freeplay so he hauled ass until he can maybe bone up on it a little. No one, I repeat, no one, I'll say again, no one that claims as much experience as he does would not know about freeplay. Repeat, no one that claims as much experience as he does would not know about freeplay. I'll say again, no one that claims as much experience as he does would not know about freeplay. (mic drop)

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I know you hate me Mickey but you speak truth above

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I don't hate you. I'm just living up to my reputation as an old curmudgeon. I don't hate liberals just think they are misguided. Can't stand marxists though.

Listen you fucktards, Yeah yeah yeah MDawg posts PROOF of his wins and PROOF that he gets full food beverage and room comp'ed. What have you two MickeyCriminal and DarkStupidOz ever posted proof of? Homelessness? Shut up you white trash!

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Listen you fucktards, Yeah yeah yeah MDawg posts PROOF of his wins and PROOF that he gets full food beverage and room comp'ed. What have you two MickeyCriminal and DarkStupidOz ever posted proof of? Homelessness? Shut up you white trash!

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MDawg grossly outed himself by claiming that winning table games players don't get offers of upfront promo chips.

Pure jealously, written and publicly conveyed by Boz, lol! So concerned with attempting to distract the reader, what a fucking idiot you really are Boz or is it supposed to really be Bozo??

Listen you white trash scum, MDawg never said that “winning table games players don't get offers of upfront promo chips” – what he said was that HE had not received any promo chips lately. He said he used to get thousands of dollars in them years ago but hadn’t even asked for any lately.

He also posted here a YEAR ago
https://www.truepassage.com/forums/s...ht=Promotional
about how he did get some promo chips,

and here
https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post114653
he talked about it too, saying that it was a year ago and only $500. so he had forgotten about it.

The great MDawg has been in Vegas now a MONTH, LIVING in $2000. a night suites, and WINNING, something all you scum white trash could only dream about.

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Pure jealously, written and publicly conveyed by Boz, lol! So concerned with attempting to distract the reader, what a fucking idiot you really are Boz or is it supposed to really be Bozo??

Listen you white trash scum, MDawg never said that “winning table games players don't get offers of upfront promo chips” – what he said was that HE had not received any promo chips lately. He said he used to get thousands of dollars in them years ago but hadn’t even asked for any lately.

He also posted here a YEAR ago
https://www.truepassage.com/forums/s...ht=Promotional
about how he did get some promo chips,

and here
https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post114653
he talked about it too, saying that it was a year ago and only $500. so he had forgotten about it.

The great MDawg has been in Vegas now a MONTH, LIVING in $2000. a night suites, and WINNING, something all you scum white trash could only dream about.

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I'm sure he is living in $2000 per night suites.

But they aren't comped. The dude says he doesn't even get mail as evidenced by the fact he doesn't know what freeplay he gets

I have had plenty of times I wasn't planning to go use the mail from a casino including email offers. I still was aware of what the offers were.

No way he is getting mail and has no idea what promo offers he gets

I also question his host claims. I can tell you from personal experience that hosts trying to keep high rollers happy will REMIND YOU OF YOUR CURRENT FREEPLAY AND PROMO OFFERS!

So even if MDawg claims he never checks his mail, there is no way a high rolling host didn't go over some review of it. They want him feeling pampered and happy. Unless of course he is full of bullshit.

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Pure jealously, written and publicly conveyed by Boz, lol! So concerned with attempting to distract the reader, what a fucking idiot you really are Boz or is it supposed to really be Bozo??

Listen you white trash scum, MDawg never said that “winning table games players don't get offers of upfront promo chips” – what he said was that HE had not received any promo chips lately. He said he used to get thousands of dollars in them years ago but hadn’t even asked for any lately.

He also posted here a YEAR ago
https://www.truepassage.com/forums/s...ht=Promotional
about how he did get some promo chips,

and here
https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post114653
he talked about it too, saying that it was a year ago and only $500. so he had forgotten about it.

The great MDawg has been in Vegas now a MONTH, LIVING in $2000. a night suites, and WINNING, something all you scum white trash could only dream about.

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I'm sure he is living in $2000 per night suites.

But they aren't comped. The dude says he doesn't even get mail as evidenced by the fact he doesn't know what freeplay he gets

I have had plenty of times I wasn't planning to go use the mail from a casino including email offers. I still was aware of what the offers were.

No way he is getting mail and has no idea what promo offers he gets

I also question his host claims. I can tell you from personal experience that hosts trying to keep high rollers happy will REMIND YOU OF YOUR CURRENT FREEPLAY AND PROMO OFFERS!

So even if MDawg claims he never checks his mail, there is no way a high rolling host didn't go over some review of it. They want him feeling pampered and happy. Unless of course he is full of bullshit.

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"I have had plenty of times I wasn't planning to go use the mail from a casino including email offers. I still was aware of what the offers were."


And that is you, YOU. Does not mean everyone imitates YOU, ROMAFL!

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Pure jealously, written and publicly conveyed by Boz, lol! So concerned with attempting to distract the reader, what a fucking idiot you really are Boz or is it supposed to really be Bozo??

Listen you white trash scum, MDawg never said that “winning table games players don't get offers of upfront promo chips” – what he said was that HE had not received any promo chips lately. He said he used to get thousands of dollars in them years ago but hadn’t even asked for any lately.

He also posted here a YEAR ago
https://www.truepassage.com/forums/s...ht=Promotional
about how he did get some promo chips,

and here
https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post114653
he talked about it too, saying that it was a year ago and only $500. so he had forgotten about it.

The great MDawg has been in Vegas now a MONTH, LIVING in $2000. a night suites, and WINNING, something all you scum white trash could only dream about.

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I'm sure he is living in $2000 per night suites.

But they aren't comped. The dude says he doesn't even get mail as evidenced by the fact he doesn't know what freeplay he gets

I have had plenty of times I wasn't planning to go use the mail from a casino including email offers. I still was aware of what the offers were.

No way he is getting mail and has no idea what promo offers he gets

I also question his host claims. I can tell you from personal experience that hosts trying to keep high rollers happy will REMIND YOU OF YOUR CURRENT FREEPLAY AND PROMO OFFERS!

So even if MDawg claims he never checks his mail, there is no way a high rolling host didn't go over some review of it. They want him feeling pampered and happy. Unless of course he is full of bullshit.

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"I have had plenty of times I wasn't planning to go use the mail from a casino including email offers. I still was aware of what the offers were."


And that is you, YOU. Does not mean everyone imitates YOU, ROMAFL!

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Notice how you ignored the host issues I gave. Because you can't explain why MDawg would have hosts who don't ever discuss his promo offers.

EPIC FAIL!!!

Bozo lol

Listen homeless stinky scum, loser all your life that ended up on the streets, MDawg posted proof of full comps for room food and beverage on one leg of his journey right here
https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post114667
and again, what have you posted proof of? Homelessness?

Your buddy Boz admitted he’s nothing but poor white trash right here
https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...848#post108848
“I grew up poor white trash”

How about you? You’re obviously uneducated and stupid buying CYDY penny stocks. Maybe you can join the class action try to get your money back
https://www.businesswire.com/news/ho...oDyn-Inc.-CYDY
you stupid Dark idiot.

There I reposted for you idiots too much cognac on my end!!

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Listen homeless stinky scum, loser all your life that ended up on the streets, MDawg posted proof of full comps for room food and beverage on one leg of his journey right here
https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post114667
and again, what have you posted proof of? Homelessness?

Your buddy Boz admitted he’s nothing but poor white trash right here
https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...848#post108848
“I grew up poor white trash”

How about you? You’re obviously uneducated and stupid buying CYDY penny stocks. Maybe you can join the class action try to get your money back
https://www.businesswire.com/news/ho...oDyn-Inc.-CYDY
you stupid Dark idiot.

There I reposted for you idiots too much cognac on my end!!

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Posting pics is only partially proof. They can be faked.

Boz and MickeyCrimm can tell the truth by posters claims of which MDawg claims smell of dogshit.

Boz complaint about me is I give away TOO MUCH valuable info but he probably doesn't doubt too much of my claims

But MDawg basically discusses dogshit info. His proof is dogshit, his claims are dogshit and anyone who claims he helped them win nearly a half-a-million bucks in one sitting is dogshit

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Listen homeless stinky scum, loser all your life that ended up on the streets, MDawg posted proof of full comps for room food and beverage on one leg of his journey right here
https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post114667
and again, what have you posted proof of? Homelessness?

Your buddy Boz admitted he’s nothing but poor white trash right here
https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...848#post108848
“I grew up poor white trash”

How about you? You’re obviously uneducated and stupid buying CYDY penny stocks. Maybe you can join the class action try to get your money back
https://www.businesswire.com/news/ho...oDyn-Inc.-CYDY
you stupid Dark idiot.

There I reposted for you idiots too much cognac on my end!!

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Posting pics is only partially proof. They can be faked.

Boz and MickeyCrimm can tell the truth by posters claims of which MDawg claims smell of dogshit.

Boz complaint about me is I give away TOO MUCH valuable info but he probably doesn't doubt too much of my claims

But MDawg basically discusses dogshit info. His proof is dogshit, his claims are dogshit and anyone who claims he helped them win nearly a half-a-million bucks in one sitting is dogshit

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Why do you Twist and Turn?

Besides the point it was three sessions.

As well why are you so damn jealous?

This is a forum not a competition.

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Originally Posted by Wynnpleasure775

Listen homeless stinky scum, loser all your life that ended up on the streets, MDawg posted proof of full comps for room food and beverage on one leg of his journey right here
https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post114667
and again, what have you posted proof of? Homelessness?

Your buddy Boz admitted he’s nothing but poor white trash right here
https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...848#post108848
“I grew up poor white trash”

How about you? You’re obviously uneducated and stupid buying CYDY penny stocks. Maybe you can join the class action try to get your money back
https://www.businesswire.com/news/ho...oDyn-Inc.-CYDY
you stupid Dark idiot.

There I reposted for you idiots too much cognac on my end!!

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Posting pics is only partially proof. They can be faked.

Boz and MickeyCrimm can tell the truth by posters claims of which MDawg claims smell of dogshit.

Boz complaint about me is I give away TOO MUCH valuable info but he probably doesn't doubt too much of my claims

But MDawg basically discusses dogshit info. His proof is dogshit, his claims are dogshit and anyone who claims he helped them win nearly a half-a-million bucks in one sitting is dogshit

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MDawg has posted plenty of proof of everything. The only thing you've ever proven is that you're a homeless failure in life. This is why you are so bitter , jealous and have so much to try to prove, because you've been a complete fuckup your whole life. No one here likes you. Now move along, homeless scum. No wonder you buy penny stocks, only idiots buy crap like that. Loser!

And be sure to digest, I love you guys even if there are some Transvestites, Transsexuals, Pre-Ops and some Aliens mixed in amongst you! As the song goes 'Light My Fire' baby, because it sure the fuck applies to you!!

Love you too!