Here is how he plays baccarat ...
https://www.truepassage.com/forums/s...in-at-Baccarat
Basically follow the trend with a mini-martingale ("double up").
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Here is how he plays baccarat ...
https://www.truepassage.com/forums/s...in-at-Baccarat
Basically follow the trend with a mini-martingale ("double up").
Isn't the basis of martingale doubling up after losses?Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
Is that what MDawg explained that he does in that thread you linked?
I press as I win. That's not a martingale. Sometimes I press as follows (using for example 100 as the unit):
100, 150, 250, etc.
I don't press exactly 1.5 for that sequence, but approximately.
other times
100, 300, 900, etc.
For this sequence I press exactly 3.
Just depends on the shoe and the circumstances.
There are times I have been down thirty grand, and gotten it back simply by betting average 500 for hours. No martingale. Martingale is stupid. I never got past my first year even of any kind of gambling, and I had just turned gambling age, before I abandoned any kind of martingale.
There is no mechanical progression or mechanical system to my winning. It just depends on the shoe and the circumstances.
The last trip, the very last day, the last shoe I played, I had a shoe where the bank NEVER went more than one. I mean, every time the bank hit, it went single only, and for that entire shoe, the next hand was player. It didn't take me long before I figured it out and I was rolling with laughter, chanting this mantra, BANK GOES ONE, NEXT HAND PLAYER! Just like that. The only reason I didn't empty the tray was...I kept thinking...there is NO WAY this is going to keep up. But it did. And, I bet it for a modest amount each time, 1800 for me, 100 on the side for the dealer on player each time the bank hit, and cleared about twenty grand on that shoe.
Then on another shoe, about a week earlier, I came in about fifteen hands into the shoe, and for the rest of the shoe, about sixty or so more hands, I missed...maybe 3 hands. Unfortunately, I was having such a good time I forget to bet...I bet a measly couple hundred the whole way through. So by the end, given that I didn't bet the ties and pushed on the tie hands, I had about ten five ($10,500.). Try to tell me that's just luck...winning 57/60 hands (minus ties).
But just as important as winning...is leaving...after a good shoe, which I'm excellent at that too. I try to always leave as soon as I'm sufficiently ahead. (Recall that both Teliot and the Wizard declared that about 97% of Vegas visitors are ahead at some point during their trips.)
On the other hand, there are sometimes shoes that follow no discernible pattern whatsoever. During this last trip I was playing a shoe, and not doing very well, and my friend (who plays with a half million line and is allowed to bet up to forty grand a hand), came over to look and declared that "It's impossible to win on that shoe!" - and, he was right, at least around that time. Later, that shoe settled into a discernible pattern and I started to win. But during the time when the shoe was unpredictable, I bet small.
Why do high rollers sometimes win millions on a single Baccarat shoe? Is it because they are lucky, or because there are in fact certain Baccarat shoes that allow any half way decent player to win, and other shoes where it will be very hard to win.
I'm just telling you, I am able to win at Baccarat very regularly, and very consistently, and it's not luck. Looking from the outside, there will always be non-believers, but so what - that leaves more deng (money), for me. And less crowded tables. I prefer it that way actually.
Same with stock trades. I just don't miss any longer. Now first off, I trade additional shares on top of my long term shares. I am not strictly a trader - I am mostly an investor, who also trades on occasion. Sometimes, I do get stuck, and then I just ride it out, and the stock always comes back. (For example today in the A.H. I sold some AMZN at 3384 that I had been holding at a loss, at 3328 for some time, on an intended day trade that turned into a position trade.) And I trade only very blue chip tech stocks for the most part, which is why the stocks I trade tend to make new ATHs (all time highs) eventually, such that it becomes impossible to lose trading them, so long as you are able to ride it out.
My luck or whatever you want to call it is good and I am determined to avoid contamination. Sometimes, contact with the lucky may change a man's run of bad luck, but generally it works out the other way. I prefer to play alone. I also stock trade alone. I don't waste time in groups when it comes to winning at stocks or gambling.
After reading the post that V linked, how did he conclude that you played using martingale ?Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
I just skimmed back through that post. I have no idea how he thought anything mentioned in that post had anything to do with martingale?
MDawg, do you have the coach as a full-time employee? Or are you also a phenomenal online ventriloquist?
Its obvious they share the same basement.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoSox
You desert rats can't even afford a basement.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
I know, they are very expensive and difficult to dig in this desert, very few people have them, even the super rich people oftentimes don't have them.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyYou desert rats can't even afford a basement.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
I said "mini-martingale (double up)."Quote:
Originally Posted by coach belly
To me pressing after a loss constitutes a mini-martingale; YMMV.
If it's not luck, and it's not skill, it must be ...Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
*bows*
All hail the Messiah, truly he walks among us!
The Ant had no problem digging holes in the desert.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
So, I think I pulled a muscle in my stomach laughing so hard. :D MDawg is playing a progressive betting system. I mean really, everyone with a brain already knew that. I have just been waiting for him to reveal or confirm it.
I am going to say it one time and that is it. A progressive betting system can not do what you are claiming. It is a mathematical fact proven decades, maybe centuries ago. A progressive betting system can not change a -EV game into a long-term winning game. PERIOD! And all the name calling and attacks won't change that.
And this is exactly why Wizard wanted to watch you play. He would have recognized almost immediately it was a progressive system. He probably would have been gentlemanly and not laughed out loud in your face, but he would have had to bite his tough awfully hard to keep from doing so.
AND, this is precisely why you refused to meet Wizard and show him. You knew you would have been laughed off the forum.
So congratulations, you have discovered a system hundreds of years old....THAT DOESN'T WORK! Nothing else to say, let your name calling and attacks and denial begin,
To the rest of you: What the Fuck is it with these guys? It is ALWAYS some sort of rehashed progressive wagering system and usually with stop limits thrown in as if piling two or more losing strategies on top of one another does anything but make it worse.
That is all I am going to say. Happy trails M-Huckleberry Finn.
As I explained.
But, if whatever I have to say inspires an admirer to post 263 words about me, hey...there's no press like bad press.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
MDawg, you posted the above and now you say there is no progression betting. I think I see the problem. You don't understand the definition of progression wagering.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
Here let me lay the definition on you: adjusting the size of your stake based on whether your previous bet has won or lost. Exactly how you adjust your stakes depend on the system being used, and whether it is a negative progression or a positive progression.
A progression system isn't just one of the many variations of Martingale where you increase wagers after losing.
PRESSING WINNING BETS IS ALSO PROGRESSION WAGERING! :D and it doesn't work.
Before the early 2000's, MDawg used to play blackjack and baccarat
with roughly average results.
In the early 2000's, he quit playing, partially over some losing trips
and partially to focus on law school and real life matters.
In 2018 he resumed playing and exclusively played baccarat.
Since resuming play in 2018, he has made 9 or 10 Vegas trips.
Each trip he played at approximately three casinos.
He claims a net win not just every trip, but every casino at every trip.
His total credit line between casinos he plays is about $250,000.
His strategy on a daily basis is a net win for that day.
To achieve this, he might play one shoe only or for 12 hours.
Some days he might win as little as $100.
Since 2018, he is up about $200,000 overall.
This is an average win of about $20,000 per trip.
That said, with ammunition of a quarter million dollars,
it is not incredibly unlikely to do what he has done.
For one thing, his net win is only 80% of his bankroll.
To look at it another way, if his overall trip goal was to win $20,000
and he had $250,000 to achieve that, if we tease the house edge out of it,
his probability of success is 92.59%.
To do that 10 out of 10 times has a probability of 46.32%.
No big deal.
It seems to me that he has just been lucky,
using the word "luck" in the mathematical sense.
Nothing that should raise any eyebrows.
To conclude, nothing MDawg claimed makes him look like anything
other than just a moderately lucky player.
I submit for the consideration of the forum that this whole thread
is replete with misunderstandings about what MDawg is claiming.
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Originally Posted by coach belly
How is this possible?
Are you sure that this device doesn't defy the math?
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Originally Posted by MisterV
The problem with the Wizards summation is that it was built on lies.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach belly
I linked at that forum to posts where MDrag actually claims to have ammunition of only $25,000. Not $250,000
MDrag claims to win $20,000 with ammunition of $25,000 on a regular basis and the Wizard would have written his analysis different had he known that.
Its hard to get them to work for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyThe Ant had no problem digging holes in the desert.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
A total credit line of $25K for all casinos?Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkoz
The problem with DarkOz is that he's stupid. That, and must be referring to the wrong posts that refer to my credit lines from about two decades ago. Which even back then they were 20 - 50K each, not total.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkoz
What's interesting if any of you know about credit line play is how few high rollers who had credit lines long ago still have them today. That's because so many get blown out. A guy who has even higher lines today than before, and still has impeccable credit, must be a very disciplined player. A winner.
You gotta know a guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
I agree...I think he's stupid. I've seen his photo...he looks stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
What did he do before he was homeless...clean theater seats on 42nd street or something like that ?
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Originally Posted by MisterV
Shut it down, MisterV's concept of God. ---> The Discount of Monte Cristo.
https://anagram-solver.net/shut%20it...d?partial=true
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Dantes, a sailor is falsely accused of treason by his best friend Fernand, who wants Dantes' girlfriend Mercedes for himself. Dantes is imprisoned on the island prison of Chateau d'If for 13.0 years.
Anyway, OMG. Has anyone, ever, put up a picture of Jesus H. Christ on a gambling forum?Quote:
Judas Iscariot was one of the Twelve Apostles. He is notorious for betraying Jesus by disclosing Jesus' whereabouts for 1*30 pieces of silver. As told in the New Testament Gospels, Judas betrayed Jesus for 1*30 pieces of silver, identifying him with a kiss in front of Roman soldiers. Later the guilt-ridden Judas returns the bribe and commits suicide, according to the Bible. The Gospel of Judas, however, gives a very different account.
It amazes me even more how people fail to see the vastly greater number of individual "train" wrecks all around us on a daily basis.
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If you do in fact play with markers, its because you cant afford to play with cash you don't have. You are scrabbling around trying to pay off your markers at the end of your trips.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawgThe problem with DarkOz is that he's stupid. That, and must be referring to the wrong posts that refer to my credit lines from about two decades ago. Which even back then they were 20 - 50K each, not total.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkoz
What's interesting if any of you know about credit line play is how few high rollers who had credit lines long ago still have them today. That's because so many get blown out. A guy who has even higher lines today than before, and still has impeccable credit, must be a very disciplined player. A winner.
As I said before, I think you are a bitch boy for some Rolex dealer. The markers and credit lines are just so you have access to cash when you need it. No doubt a Rolex dealer would want to impress his buyers and sellers with some fancy meals and rooms.
To write something like the above quote and expect it to stand up for itself is astounding. You must literally love yourself. Talk about having a set of balls, buddy you set the record. That quote is worth repeating.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
There is no mechanical progression or mechanical system to my winning. It just depends on the shoe and the circumstances.
Coach belly there is no defending that no matter whatever you say.
The only MCrap claim I ever believed was he received complimentary ketchup bottles
He was so overjoyed at those. They were just the right size for his thumb and his penis to fit. The ketchup made good lubrication for his only real action, masturbating to thoughts of beating (beating Baccarat while beating himself off, lol)
MDawg, Mister V started a thread in the Whatever's on your mind page titled: Any millionaires here, I thought you would have already responded by saying something meaningful. Such as that you already have a million dollars expense just in your underpants drawer with 20 pair of custom made fur-lined fruit of the loom DEPENDS the very same Depends you wear when you are playing Baccarat. When the betting all depends on the circumstance of whether or not you made a poop in those very same underpants.
Yeah basically MCrap claims he has a system and it's comprised of getting lucky and knowing in advance when he is due to get lucky and taking advantage of his luck by raising his wagers.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoSoxTo write something like the above quote and expect it to stand up for itself is astounding. You must literally love yourself. Talk about having a set of balls, buddy you set the record. That quote is worth repeating.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
There is no mechanical progression or mechanical system to my winning. It just depends on the shoe and the circumstances.
Coach belly there is no defending that no matter whatever you say.
Pure rubbish!
As usual, you love to put your spin on what is said and what is going on, but then I suppose we all do that. Nevertheless, whatever I am doing...works!
If you count lying about your winning working I suppose!Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
No one believes a word you say. Not only have you posted zero proof, even your own lies are inconsistent. First you post that you make $20,000. a week then later qualify it by saying that you only make $20,000. some weeks. A person who doesn't even know what he makes, is clearly lying.
And the fact that you would boast about something so provincial as having benjis in your pocket shows where you came from which is...the homelessness of the street!
My chronicles are all consistent, and backed up by plenty of evidence.
So, get back on the bus Drak, it's waiting for you! What's really changed for you anyway? You rode the bus homeless and you ride it now.
https://i.imgur.com/si2nlKph.jpg
As far as AxelAss, I wouldn't expect him to have any decent credit or understand the concept of marker play, or its benefits. The more he opens his mouth the less he shows that he knows.
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Originally Posted by AxelWolfIf you do in fact play with markers, its because you cant afford to play with cash you don't have.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawgThe problem with DarkOz is that he's stupid. That, and must be referring to the wrong posts that refer to my credit lines from about two decades ago. Which even back then they were 20 - 50K each, not total.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkoz
What's interesting if any of you know about credit line play is how few high rollers who had credit lines long ago still have them today. That's because so many get blown out. A guy who has even higher lines today than before, and still has impeccable credit, must be a very disciplined player. A winner.
This reminds me about, in general, how "happy" gamblers are with the casino "gift" shoppe stuff. Cheap and gaudy as hell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkoz
Saved for easy viewing. This is going to be good.....Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
That might be his best post ever HOF !Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfSaved for easy viewing. This is going to be good.....Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
He's a legend in his own mind.
The winnings, the cash, and the fun, are all real.
Why don’t you look at the original posts, and picture of the shoe while you are it, dunceballs.
Day Twelve play shoe
Final shoe of the trip
Anyone who didn't clean up on those two shoes, doesn't deserve to step foot in a casino.
So despite blocking someone, you still "get" to read when they are quoted. Such joy. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by OzzyThat might be his best post ever HOF !Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfSaved for easy viewing. This is going to be good.....Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
The second paragraph from MDawg is quite possible and I find it quite believable. I had a similar experience in blackjack back in 2011 that I wrote about at WoV and a blackjack forum, which I called "the perfect shoe". In short, from the time the count got very positive (max bet territory), I won every single round except 1, which was a 20 to 20 push. I don't even know how many rounds somewhere between 30 and 40.
So this kind of thing is very possible. The problem with MDawg is this kind of thing is ALL he shares. We never hear about the losing periods. And for anyone really gambling, even playing with an advantage there is plenty of losing as well. As a real player I share my winning and losing, my good and bad. I sometimes refer to it as the good, the bad and the ugly, because that is what REAL life and gambling is. These guys telling you only of winning are either leaving out the losing, or making the whole thing up like a tale of fiction. Might as well call it The adventures of... Oh wait....he did. :cool:
I got as close to a seal of approval from my friend KewlJ as I'll ever get! Wow.
Gotta go, five minutes to TSLA reports. Then at 1:30pm PST...AAPL. I hold a lot of old time shares but I might trade additional. Damn. Four minutes.
Golly gee MDawg, with you spending all your time posting on message boards and assiduously day trading stocks how do you ever get your legal work done?
Bwa ha ha ha
I assume you're more a lawyer than a businessman. I'm more a businessman than a lawyer. Either way is fine, just saying.
I have a friend who's a surgeon who will practically leave the operating room if he gets a call related to his real estate investments.
I had a telephonic hearing today. Other times lately we do MSFT Teams or Webex, depending on which county. I will have to show for an actual trial soon if we don't win the summary judgment or settle. C'mon, you know all this, why are you asking? You know how it is for some time now due to coronavirus.
Anyway, AAPL moved a little. TSLA moved a lot - to the downside. I managed to clip 815 to 825, and calling it a day.
3 or 4 at least, while he argues with like 10 people at once defending his fake BS. And has the time to scour threads taking screen shots and posting them up while make threads about me and others, sending PM's all day (half of them crying to Mike, no doubt).Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
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Originally Posted by MDawg
The highlighted last sentence reaffirms to me that you are just some rich guy out to have fun, never an AP. Even though you were betting for the dealer 100 every other hand on the player, as the results were going back and forth 1 Bank / 1Player even discounting ties you still tipped about 3K and won for yourself nearly 20 K that comes out to about 15% tip of your winnings. Not to mention the upfront house advantage percentage. Of course, I am not taking into account that you win most every time.
As long as I walk sufficiently ahead for the amount of time I have spent in town, I'm satisfied. Why shouldn't the dealers make money when I make money?
Plus as I have mentioned time and again, if I'm trying to walk ahead, say, five grand, if I tip five hundred or so along the way via dealer bets alongside mine, it might delay my getting to five grand by some minutes, but it's not like I'll end up walking with 5500 versus 5000 if I do not place any dealer bets. When I reach my goal, I just leave.
Anyone who comes on here to justify tipping little or nothing, such as for example the microscopic amounts KewlJ talks about tipping is just a tight a** as far as I am concerned. I cringe when I read about his tossing the dealer five dollars at the end of the session. Then again, yes, I understand, he's doing it for a living while I am not, but still, that's just cheesy giving the dealer only five dollars. That's what I tip per non-alcoholic beverage to the cocktail waitress, which is the same as many others tip too I am sure.
I see some of the biggest Asian Baccarat players tip almost nothing, and yet they almost always lose in the end, while I tip a lot and win consistently.
I believe MCrap does win about 90% of the time.
For example in Baccarat if he loses 10 hands and then wins 9 hands he has a win ratio of 90%.
He explained this math when he saw he had 70% of the votes (7 no/17yes)
Starting in the early 1980s my late wife and I took many trips to Las Vegas and I believe around 1985 we were at a casino called Boomtown and while my wife was in a slot tournament I hit a royal flush on a 50 cent JOB for 2k which was hand paid to me along with a tax receipt with three or four employees standing nearby, I took the money and thanked them. Later on, I told my wife what happened and said to her it was strange in that they gave me 19 one hundreds and five twenty's they actually ran out of hundreds. Now coach belly yes I can still prove it as I saved the receipt just for remembrance. Although, I would have to mail it to you as I never used my phone camera and would not know how to transfer it to the internet anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
I ask because quite frankly I think you are lying through your nicotine stained teeth.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
But just for shits and giggles:
You have a trial coming up, you say?
What area of law do you specialize in, or is yours a "general practice" (lawyerspeak for "I'll take anything that walks through the door"), and what type of case are you taking to trial?
I'm happy to talk shop with you, Mr. Mason: your turn.
For those who care to see some actual boring math showing that losses due to Martingale = (house edge) x (total Wagers), at least in roulette (baccarat is also on the spreadsheet, I just haven't made a video of it yet), I give you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C1m1oRQaXs
This is a boring video. But playing a losing system is boring, so what can I do?
Wow...what a story...doesn't seem possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoSox
But receipts can be faked, so I'm going to create a poll
to see if anybody else has heard of such a thing and believes you or not.
The results of the poll will establish whether or not you're telling the truth.
Nah, the math does that already.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyWow...what a story...doesn't seem possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoSox
But receipts can be faked, so I'm going to create a poll
to see if anybody else has heard of such a thing and believes you or not.
The results of the poll will establish whether or not you're telling the truth.
The poll just established how many people are stupid at math and believe MCrap
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Originally Posted by BoSox
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Originally Posted by coach belly
I'm not sure how math applies to Bosox's tall tale of getting paid with singles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkoz
He wrote that it happened to him once about 40 years ago,
but even though it happened long ago, it's so bizarre that it can't be true.
But I'm not sure, so I'll start a poll and the voters will decide if it's true or not.
Well I was just cashing out from a redemption machine a few weeks ago when it most likely ran out of decent sized bills.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach belly
I'm not sure how math applies to Bosox's tall tale of getting paid with singles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkoz
He wrote that it happened to him once about 40 years ago,
but even though it happened long ago, it's so bizarre that it can't be true.
But I'm not sure, so I'll start a poll and the voters will decide if it's true or not.
Received about fifteen hundred dollars in fives
I am glad you guys are having fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach belly
I'm not sure how math applies to Bosox's tall tale of getting paid with singles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkoz
He wrote that it happened to him once about 40 years ago,
but even though it happened long ago, it's so bizarre that it can't be true.
But I'm not sure, so I'll start a poll and the voters will decide if it's true or not.
The machine spit out more than 300 bills?Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkoz
I don't believe you...this calls for yet another poll.
Did you at least tip the closest attendant,
or did you save the fives for 300 drinks from the cocktail waitresses?
Mickey calls me mcrap lol I think that nickname is taken.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkoz
1) One I don't drinkQuote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyThe machine spit out more than 300 bills?Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkoz
I don't believe you...this calls for yet another poll.
Did you at least tip the closest attendant,
or did you save the fives for 300 drinks from the cocktail waitresses?
2) I would not tip more than $1 for a drink if I did.
Okay I will call him MDragQuote:
Originally Posted by mcapMickey calls me mcrap lol I think that nickname is taken.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkoz
Five dollar tips for three hundred drinks, no way those are MDawg tips. That would get me tips for 1500 bottles of water. Now to close my Royal Flush story, it only occurred to me on the plane ride home 4 days later why the last hundred was paid to me in twenty's. Foolish of them, if they only knew.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyThe machine spit out more than 300 bills?Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkoz
I don't believe you...this calls for yet another poll.
Did you at least tip the closest attendant,
or did you save the fives for 300 drinks from the cocktail waitresses?
What do you do, take fluids intravenously?Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkoz
The cocktail waitress will bring non-alcoholic beverages too...I'm surprised you didn't know that.
And what about 3)...the ticket redemption machine spit out more than 300 bills?
That's going to be the poll question...who believes that?
You're obviously old school, you probably grew up during the Great Depression.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoSox
A little slow on the uptake? You must be a country mouse.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoSox
How many rubber bands did it take for that plane to get you back to The Holler?
Number one is a stupid childish question about drinking alcohol vs non-alcoholic drinks. It's the questions of a child thinking he's cute.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyWhat do you do, take fluids intravenously?Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkoz
The cocktail waitress will bring non-alcoholic beverages too...I'm surprised you didn't know that.
And what about 3)...the ticket redemption machine spit out more than 300 bills?
That's going to be the poll question...who believes that?
2) I'm not tipping $1 for a watered down Pepsi
3) not sure why you find it difficult to believe. It wasn't in Vegas or Atlantic City. I find different states have different redemption machine quirks. For example I know one location that won't accept vouchers over $600, others over $2000, some over$2500 and most $3000.
So if you are trying to put your limited knowledge of how redemption machines work in your neck of the woods you just show your stupidity
Well, you always do that anyway
Whether or not you drink alcohol has no bearing on how much you may tip the waitress.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkoz
An acknowledged table game player on this forum tips $5 per round,
exclusively for non-alcoholic beverages.
He drinks, but doesn't drink alcohol at the tables.
You wrote that you don't tip cocktail waitresses, because you don't drink.
It's been explained that a key element of successful casino play is to stay hydrated.
If you don't drink in the casino, then how do you take fluids...intravenously?
The machine's dollar redemption limit per transaction is not in question, but the number of bills is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkoz
You've claimed that a machine dispensed over 300 bills for one transaction.
I'm familiar enough with how redemption machines work, and I don't believe you.
Since you're likely not willing or able to explain or prove your dubious claim,
the truth of your claim must be decided by vote of the members.
I have no clue what the maximum number of bills a theses machines can can spit out in one transaction. 300+ seems like a lot. I do know its annoying when they mainly spit out $5 bills.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyWhether or not you drink alcohol has no bearing on how much you may tip the waitress.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkoz
An acknowledged table game player on this forum tips $5 per round,
exclusively for non-alcoholic beverages.
He drinks, but doesn't drink alcohol at the tables.
You wrote that you don't tip cocktail waitresses, because you don't drink.
It's been explained that a key element of successful casino play is to stay hydrated.
If you don't drink in the casino, then how do you take fluids...intravenously?
The machine's dollar redemption limit per transaction is not in question, but the number of bills is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkoz
You've claimed that a machine dispensed over 300 bills for one transaction.
I'm familiar enough with how redemption machines work, and I don't believe you.
Since you're likely not willing or able to explain or prove your dubious claim,
the truth of your claim must be decided by vote of the members.
someone could call and ask.
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Firstly, if you knew jackshit about how redemption machines work then YOU WOULD HAVE THE PROOF TL PROVE ME WRONG!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyWhether or not you drink alcohol has no bearing on how much you may tip the waitress.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkoz
An acknowledged table game player on this forum tips $5 per round,
exclusively for non-alcoholic beverages.
He drinks, but doesn't drink alcohol at the tables.
You wrote that you don't tip cocktail waitresses, because you don't drink.
It's been explained that a key element of successful casino play is to stay hydrated.
If you don't drink in the casino, then how do you take fluids...intravenously?
The machine's dollar redemption limit per transaction is not in question, but the number of bills is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkoz
You've claimed that a machine dispensed over 300 bills for one transaction.
I'm familiar enough with how redemption machines work, and I don't believe you.
Since you're likely not willing or able to explain or prove your dubious claim,
the truth of your claim must be decided by vote of the members.
This is like so simple. You believe you have proof my claim is impossible. Present the evidence. Some type of article, handbook, or other writing from official redemption machine manufacturing that backs up your claim.
To ask me to prove it is ridiculous. Obviously I didn't expect it was going to happen so didn't have a camera out to record it. And you just get handed money at the redemption machine no receipt so no there is no proof it did happen.
But again Mr. bullshit caller, I am calling your bullshit.
Provide your evidence redemption machine manufacturing prevents it. This one is so damn simple.
The fact you want a poll is obvious you are full of bullshit. If it was the other way around I would not have even suggested a poll. I just would have posted documents proving my claims.
As for staying hydrated being a method of successful AP that's a load of dungshit. I use other people players card for freeplay. Takes me about ten to twenty minutes a card. Collect my money, move onto another machine. STOP AT GIFT SHOP, USE COMPS OR PAY FOR FULL STRENGTH SODA!
Literally Coach Belly you prove yourself to be a total retard. Not even sure you aren't getting help on how to type on a keyboard
Hold the horses, MDawg that 3k that you bet for the dealers won most of all those hands so it was not a 15% tip that you gave but closer to 30% as you won nearly 20 k for yourself and in reality tipped nearly 6k for the dealers. MDawg, your stories get worse and worse the more you talk about them.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoSoxQuote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
The highlighted last sentence reaffirms to me that you are just some rich guy out to have fun, never an AP. Even though you were betting for the dealer 100 every other hand on the player, as the results were going back and forth 1 Bank / 1Player even discounting ties you still tipped about 3K and won for yourself nearly 20 K that comes out to about 15% tip of your winnings. Not to mention the upfront house advantage percentage. Of course, I am not taking into account that you win most every time.
Did the $5s come out in multiple stacks?
I have never seen a machine with an outfeed that could handle 300 bills.
Most machines limit deposits to 50 items because they can't accommodate taking in more thickness than that at a time. More and then you have to do another transaction. I am having a hard time figuring out how the machine has the ability to handle multiple stacks of 5s for a single transaction.
I'm amazed it took people this long for everyone to figure out. Obviously there are one or two retards that haven't figured it out.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoSoxHold the horses, MDawg that 3k that you bet for the dealers won most of all those hands so it was not a 15% tip that you gave but closer to 30% as you won nearly 20 k for yourself and in reality tipped nearly 6k for the dealers. MDawg, your stories get worse and worse the more you talk about them.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoSoxQuote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
The highlighted last sentence reaffirms to me that you are just some rich guy out to have fun, never an AP. Even though you were betting for the dealer 100 every other hand on the player, as the results were going back and forth 1 Bank / 1Player even discounting ties you still tipped about 3K and won for yourself nearly 20 K that comes out to about 15% tip of your winnings. Not to mention the upfront house advantage percentage. Of course, I am not taking into account that you win most every time.
I bet MDawg and Coach can't say that about their Ass Holes.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxPen
It did come out in two stacks.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxPen
The first stack was thick and I was confused at first because I usually got hundreds from that machine. I started walking away when the guy behind me yelled that the machine was still dispensing money.
I even gave him a fifty dollar tip because he could easily have walked off with my cash before I realized I didn't have everything.
(Perhaps he knew he could get evicted for just taking the money if I complained or maybe he was just honest to a fault. He actually refused the tip but I insisted)
I haven't made any claims, you made the claim that the machine spit out over 300 bills for one transaction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkoz
I haven't asked you to prove it, I know for a fact that you can't, and I don't believe you.
The hissy fit you are throwing over this just reveals that you've been caught in a lie.
Why is tipping 30% worse? How is it worse? Worse than what?Quote:
Originally Posted by BoSox
Obviously there are more than one retard (besides you) unaware that tipping 30% is common.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
Maybe not common among elderly hillbillies, NYC deadbeats, and LV street cons,
but they're all clueless if unaware that plenty of folks tip 30%.
Neither can your wife, and neither can the Ass Hole she's married to.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfI bet MDawg and Coach can't say that about their Ass Holes.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxPen
This entire story is bullshit, and the $50 tip story is whipped cream on the bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkoz
Nobody else has ever heard of what you are claiming, nobody believes you,
and we don't need to vote anymore to determine the truth.
I have had a couple times I was cashing out small amounts, lets say $100 and been given mostly 5's. Maybe 2 20's and the rest 5's. You can actually hear the machine counting and pause, as if it is saying "oh boy, what do I do now" (that is what I envision it saying anyway. lol), then it continues counting and dispenses. At least one time, I noticed the red light come on and machine go out of service, immediately after my transaction.
I don't know, $1500 in 5's seems unlikely to me. In Vegas, the station casino machines STILL aren't giving out change (supposedly due to quarter shortage). So if you put a voucher in that has change on it, it will pay out the cash part and print a second voucher for just the change, for you to take to the cashier. I would think if the machine ran out of large bills in the middle of a larger transaction, you would get a partial payment and voucher for the remainder, But I really don't know, so I am not going to say it didn't happen. Nothing surprises me anymore.
So basically we have Coach Belly who makes the following position.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Of course MDawg beats a Baccarat because he posted photos of hotel suites and chips (but conveniently zero pics or proof of actual play.
Coach Belly refuses to believe a redemption machine could spit out 300 $5 bills. He knows this for a fact even though he can present no evidence.
I think this policy is a bunch of bullshit from the casinos.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Think about it: if a coin shortage justifies not putting coins in the self-service redemption machines, how is it that there is no coin shortage at the cage, the place where you can redeem your change?
Does not compute.
I asked my local bank lady if there was a coin shortage and she said no, not that she's seen.
I suspect casinos do it with the understanding that lots of people will not bother to go to the cashier to redeem their change, which leaves more money in the casino coffers.
Any claim by the casinos that covid caused it is silly.
No, it's just another ruse by the bean counters to fuck over the patrons, like resort fees and parking fees.
When casinos reopened in June, most of them were not issuing change at the kiosk and printing a voucher for the change part. But every place stopped doing that and went back to normal within a month or so, except Stations properties. Surely most people don't bother with an extra trip to the cage for change. So almost every transaction they are making, let's say 50 cents average. That is going to add up, especially for a chain of properties.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV