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I made a living buckin up against the baccarats on the fulls time basis for bit more than 12 year. I'm willing to prove my style against REAL live dealt shoe. I know that most ap-wiseguy, and mathite are penny antes operator playin for peanut so be willing to pony up sufficient cake to make it worths my while, hey hey.
Sox, I always liked your style, hey hey.Quote:
Originally Posted by soxfan
Assuming you don't have a mathematical advantage or some angle, because there are legit non-betting system ways to beat baccarat. There is a simple way to do this without some complicated x number of hands, up or down x amount, or whatever BS people come up with. Whatever you normally bet, just bet a fraction of that amount, and one will book the rest of your action win or lose at x times your bet. For example, if you normally bet 500k per hand, just bet $10, and you will be paid 50x whatever you win or you will owe that person 50x whatever you lose. You can have someone both people trust there to hold the money and make there are the proper settlements being paid out. Either person can stop or continue whenever they want.
Does it really matter to you who pays you the money, either an individual or the casino?
soxfan, the best this bozo could come up with was asking me to bankroll him effectively by covering his losses if he played with me. Ignore anything he has to say.
Anyway, how exactly would what you propose work? I already know it is possible to win long term at Baccarat as I do it myself, but I am just curious in that - where are you located? Forgive me if I am wrong but for some reason I thought you were in Canada.
NO, that's not how it went down you fucktard. IF YOU ALWAYS WIN, like you were basically claiming, then you shouldn't have a problem paying any losses if I were to mimic your bets and I lost. YOU WOULD NOT HAVE TO PAY ANYTHING BECAUSE YOU NEVER LOSE. I was going to give you half the profits. It's a win-win if you are telling the truth about your play. My point was... YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT, or you could easily offer that deal, and you should as a business proposition. Since I would be using my own money, you would have nothing to lose. I have offered people deals when AP'ing because I'm so confident they will win that THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY ANY OF THEIR LOSSES IF THEY LOSE, or even use their own money, I COVER IT and if they win they get to keep half, or whatever deal we come up with. They get a free roll because I'm not full of shit when it comes to making real money that can be backed up by the math, game rules/paytables/promotions, and real people in real life who can verify many of those things.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
On a recent AP play, I was so confident we would win, I loaned someone 5K just to play and made a deal with them. I had never even done any AP business with this person or known them very long, they are not really an AP, but I bet that's going to change soon enough, I had/have enough faith and confidence in them knowing they will be start and low key.
MDwag = no value to anyone other than totally unsubstantiated BS LOL entertainment on a few forums.
Again, let me know when anyone has actually gained anything substantial from anything you are rambling on about. I can guarantee you people have made significant amounts of money and knowledge from the information, plays, teachings, and help I have provided.
The baccarats was my fulls time gig and onlyn source of active income for a bit more than 12 year. I made the scene five days per week played 6 shoes per day, 48 weeks per year. So, I probably buck up against a bit more than 13 000 shoe in that time. Now I did have losing session, some losing weeks but overall I won well and regular. Of course I'm sure some mathite will, say a paltry 13 000 shoe ain't constitute the "long run", hey hey.
Why is that a problem?Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
If that's true, then that makes him more valuable to more forum members than you are.
I wish that the mickey crimm was still boozin so I could challenge him to the drinkings contest, hey hey.
Depends on how you define "value."Quote:
Originally Posted by coach belly
If you mean it as in "spectacle" and "ongoing train wreck," then yes.
But if you mean "truth, justice and the American way" you're coming up short.
Funny thing: up until I retired I didn't post while working; I was too busy and long ago learned to compartmentalize my interests.
In contrast, the braying dingbat who claims he's a wealthy, highly successful California lawyer posts constantly.
Hmmm ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBAijg5Betw
You can define it as a combination of all the things you mentioned...MDawg is still way more valuable than Axel.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
Would you like to take a poll on that?Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyYou can define it as a combination of all the things you mentioned...MDawg is still way more valuable than Axel.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
13,000 shoes isn't a large enough sample size.
Only if all forum members are required to vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoSox
But you and tewlj can take each others' poles.
I'll bet you'd like that.
That's right up there with one of the dumbest requirements you have come up with. How the fuck could you possaby think that's a logical request/requirement? The act of requiring it would be easy, but it would be next to impossible to make that happen. I would agree, MDawg is more entertaining than me, but so is Nathan. Everyone loves a couple of court Jesters.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyOnly if all forum members are required to vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoSox
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It wasn't a request or requirement dumbass.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
Everybody loves the poker grinder's monkey too...so you got that going for you, which is nice.
"Only if all forum members are required to vote." I'm only going by what you said.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyIt wasn't a request or requirement dumbass.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
Everybody loves the poker grinder's monkey too...so you got that going for you, which is nice.
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So, how many shoe would constitute the significant samples size, hey hey?
How would Axel have any losses if he played with you. You always win. So your argument is no good here.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
You wouldn't have had a chance to win. I have a hollow leg.Quote:
Originally Posted by soxfan
Millions.Quote:
Originally Posted by soxfan
I didn't request a poll, and I don't have any authority to instate any requirements,Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
so what the fuck are you talking about dumbass?
The poll BoSox asked about is worthless unless all members vote.
You figure out where to take it from there.
He suggested it, and you had a requirement, you said that in your post. How is a poll worthless unless ALL members vote? That's one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. A poll may be worthless in the first place, but that would have nothing to do with ALL people having to vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyI didn't request a poll, and I don't have any authority to instate any requirements,Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
so what the fuck are you talking about dumbass?
The poll BoSox asked about is worthless unless all members vote.
You figure out where to take it from there.
You know how that poll would end so that's why you are claiming all people would have to vote, something you know is next to impossible.
I played five day per week, six shoe per day and 48 week per year. So, in a year worths of fulls time play I buck up against about 1 440 shoe so I could play for several lifes time and never buck up against the significant samples size, hey hey.
I wonder just how much MDawg pays for his private internet security coach belly?Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfHe suggested it, and you had a requirement, you said that in your post. How is a poll worthless unless ALL members vote? That's one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. A poll may be worthless in the first place, but that would have nothing to do with ALL people having to vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyI didn't request a poll, and I don't have any authority to instate any requirements,Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
so what the fuck are you talking about dumbass?
The poll BoSox asked about is worthless unless all members vote.
You figure out where to take it from there.
You know how that poll would end so that's why you are claiming all people would have to vote, something you know is next to impossible.
He didn't suggest a poll, he asked if I would like one.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
I would not like one unless all members had to vote...that was my answer.
That has nothing to do with requirements for a poll...I don't get to institute requirements for polls.
The poll he asked about would be worthless unless all members voted.
Why waste time with silly questions like that?Quote:
Originally Posted by BoSox
Is that the question you really came here to ask?
What do you want to ask about next, MDawg's favorite color?
I've heard that said another way..."the player cannot reach the long term".Quote:
Originally Posted by soxfan
That's why the eventual bankrupting loss that some insist must happen may not occur.
Same goes with card counters in blackjack. A single counter will never amass the amount of hands it took to prove that counting works. I suggest keep doing what you're doing and don't worry about what others think.Quote:
Originally Posted by soxfan
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Originally Posted by BoSoxI wonder just how much MDawg pays for his private internet security coach belly?Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfHe suggested it, and you had a requirement, you said that in your post. How is a poll worthless unless ALL members vote? That's one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. A poll may be worthless in the first place, but that would have nothing to do with ALL people having to vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach belly
You know how that poll would end so that's why you are claiming all people would have to vote, something you know is next to impossible.
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Originally Posted by coach belly
I was trying to give you the benefit of doubt, that you were only doing this for a salary. If that is not the case, it does not say much about your gaming knowledge.
It doesn't say anything about my gaming knowledge.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoSox
I rarely comment about MDawg's gaming.
But again, is that what you really meant to say?
No, I had a problem with one of your earlier quotes.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyIt doesn't say anything about my gaming knowledge.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoSox
I rarely comment about MDawg's gaming.
But again, is that what you really meant to say?
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Originally Posted by coach belly
I think that you are full of baloney.
So what? I think that you are an old queen who is not very bright.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoSox
You know it would be next to impossible to get all members to vote. Explain the logic behind your theory of why it would be useless unless all members vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyQuote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
The poll he asked about would be worthless unless all members voted.
There will always be guys that are " To cool to vote" usually the same handful of regulars. You know who you guys are :)Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfYou know it would be next to impossible to get all members to vote. Explain the logic behind your theory of why it would be useless unless all members vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyQuote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
The poll he asked about would be worthless unless all members voted.
The poll question is who is more valuable to most forum members.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
The only way to determine that via poll is to require that all members vote.
Otherwise, most members may not even vote (like every other poll).
Dan can require members to vote, the same way he can require members to update their email address.
I guess you have never heard of a sample size. Even if Dan required that(and I highly doubt he would) I doubt most members even would then since there are over 1500 members here and I would guess that less than 5% are actually active, especially when you toss sockpuppets in the mix.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyThe poll question is who is more valuable to most forum members.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
The only way to determine that via poll is to require that all members vote.
Otherwise, most members may not even vote (like every other poll).
Dan can require members to vote, the same way he can require members to update their email address.
Sample only has a correlation if the respondents are randomly selected.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
Even then the results are unreliable, since some of the population won't participate if asked,
and there is a bias among those willing to participate in polls.
Members would be required to vote, it would be a condition of membership.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
I understand that Dan may not want to do that, but he certainly could.
Irrelevant anyway, since I wasn't asked by BoSox what Dan would or could do.