Hahahah Happy labor day you studied cocking faggot bitches

-2225 in less than 2 hours. Tell me last time I lost 2k in less than 2 hours but as soon as a holiday weekend rolls around that happens? Glad I did my own fucking research. Maybe if more than one person actually played blackjack on these forums you guys would know the truth too but wtf do u guys know. U know how to scam and be immoral bitches forming teams and thinking ur some big shots. Casinos just like you guys immoral fucking pricks. Gaming commission also. Everyone is dead in 50 years and money means that much to u idiots. No wonder this world went to fucking shit

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-2225 in less than 2 hours. Tell me last time I lost 2k in less than 2 hours but as soon as a holiday weekend rolls around that happens? Glad I did my own fucking research. Maybe if more than one person actually played blackjack on these forums you guys would know the truth too but wtf do u guys know. U know how to scam and be immoral bitches forming teams and thinking ur some big shots. Casinos just like you guys immoral fucking pricks. Gaming commission also. Everyone is dead in 50 years and money means that much to u idiots. No wonder this world went to fucking shit

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What moron would go out and play on a holiday weekend when you know they cheat?

And we are the “idiots”. While you are the King.

Please keep posting, some of us enjoy watching a moron in action doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

Any of us could have seen this post coming months ago. While some look forward to holidays to spend quality time with family and friends, the King looks forward to handing his money over to casinos while they fuck him in the ass. And he says Thank You, I’ll be back next holiday weekend to let you fuck me again.

If losing 2k sets you off like this you're a failure at AP. Cunt.

And what exactly is a “studied cocking faggot bitches”.

My understanding of crack head speak is a little light I will admit.

This guy, Zenking just has a really bad approach, a mentality that has to change if he is really to succeed (and he hasn't yet despite what he insists on labeling himself). A card counter has to have a short memory, just like a quarterback who just threw an interception or a closing relief pitcher that just blew a save. If you dwell on the negatives, they spiral out of control effecting your play and game.

I know when I get in one of those bad runs, where I am losing for weeks and months at a time, and I have had 5-6 that last months, but it effects you and your game and contributes to that downward spiral. When I am in one of those really bad ruts, the first max bet or double down that I lose in a new day or session, you think to yourself "here we go again". Then without even realizing it, you are pressing and chasing losses. It is human nature and you have to work hard to fight it.

So in Zenkings case, he has convinced himself that casinos are cheating on holiday weekends, so as soon as he losses a big hand, a max bet or double down, he is saying to himself "here we go again" and immediately transformed into that negative mindset where the discipline needed to play the game fades and compulsive poor decision making takes over, contributing to even more losses and reinforcing this false narrative.

One option which I frequently mention is avoid whatever trigger is setting you off, in this case the holdiay weekend. But then you will have different triggers, a certain casino (which we already see) or a certain dealer or any number of things that "cause" your losing and if you avoid them all, it won't be long before you have no place or time to play.

The better option is to change that mentality, accept and understand that blackjack card counting involves periods of losing and stop dwelling on and making these periods worse. Next thing you know you will have a winning holiday weekend or two and or that long period of losing ends and you realize there was nothing unusual, just the natural swings of the game.

A player must focus on the longterm and stop reading things into shortterm results or small sample size, which is easy to do. Any player that can't learn to do that is probably doomed to failure or at least limited success compared to what he should experience. Longterm! Everything about this game is longterm. Shortterm means nothing.

Might be a coincidence, but I got a #fraudalert from my credit card while reading the last post

Seems odd.
I've been running pretty bad for the last couple months but I won 92k in the last 8 hours of play.
Sucks to be the King I suppose.

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If losing 2k sets you off like this you're a failure at AP. Cunt.

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Shut Up. Faggot!

Yesterday, which was a Saturday during the holiday weekend, I payed 3 sessions on the strip late afternoon, early evening before attending the BYU-Arizona football game at Allegiant stadium, more to check out the stadium than the game, but it was fun and a good game. The stadium is magnificent BTW. Probably way too nice for the Raider fans that will attend, especially those "crazies" traveling from Oakland. :D I hope they don't destroy the stadium before my next visit end of October for the Eagles game.

So my 3 sessions prior to the game at 3 different strip properties were uneventful. One good winning session, one big losing session and one basically even (a very small loss) Basically even for the day (technically a very small loss). But it was enough that I can say, I didn't feel anything was rigged. Seemed like a very fair and typical game. Will be playing twice more during the holiday weekend, at least once on the strip. I don't know if I will report results, but I feel very comfortable that there is no reason not to play the strip or play at all during a holiday weekend. It is a chance for me to bump up my stakes.

So here is an unrelated observation:. While playing, there were players in BYU "garb" at 2 of my 3 tables played, plus I noticed other playing in the casinos. BYU fans always travel well and are well represented when one of their teams is playing in Vegas, so nothing unusual about that. But I found myself wondering....BYU is a Mormon school and isn't gambling against Mormon rules or beliefs?

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Yesterday, which was a Saturday during the holiday weekend, I payed 3 sessions on the strip late afternoon, early evening before attending the BYU-Arizona football game at Aligent stadium, more to check out the stadium than the game, but it was fun and a good game. The stadium is magnificent BTW. Probably way too nice for the Raider fans that will attend, especially those "crazies" traveling from Oakland. :D I hope they don't destroy the stadium before my next visit end of October for the Eagles game.

So my 3 sessions prior to the game at 3 different strip properties were uneventful. One good winning session, one big losing session and one basically even (a very small loss) Basically even for the day (technically a very small loss). But it was enough that I can say, I didn't feel anything was rigged. Seemed like a very fair and typical game. Will be playing twice more during the holiday weekend, at least once on the strip. I don't know if I will report results, but I feel very comfortable that there is no reason not to play the strip or play at all during a holiday weekend. It is a chance for me to bump up my stakes.

So here is an unrelated observation:. While playing, there were players in BYU "garb" at 2 of my 3 tables played, plus I noticed other playing in the casinos. BYU fans always travel well and are well represented when one of their teams is playing in Vegas, so nothing unusual about that. But I found myself wondering....BYU is a Mormon school and isn't gambling against Mormon rules or beliefs?

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Gambling Mormons from Utah is why Wendover is the gambling town it is. Granted not Vegas or even Laughlin. But it’s bigger than a small town on the border should be. Like all of us, they aren’t all the perfect people we think they are from general public perception.

The official stance of the LDS faith is that they are opposed to all forms of gambling, which would include charitable gambling and Government-run lotteries.

However, the LDS Faith distinguishes between, "Sins," and more minor actions which are known as, "Lesser Transgressions." Gambling is seen as a lesser transgression (if done by an individual) because it is not a sin, per se, but the pursuit of something for nothing is seen as spirtually impure as it creates the possibility for greed and decreases one's notion of self-reliance.

Thanks for the interesting replies Boz and Mission. Is your handle derived from "mormon mission"? Just kidding, don't answer.

So the Mormon guys come to Las Vegas, gamble, get drunk and visit the gay bars and show off their strange underwear in a moment of "lesser trangressions". :rolleyes:

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Gambling Mormons from Utah is why Wendover is the gambling town it is. Granted not Vegas or even Laughlin. But it’s bigger than a small town on the border should be. Like all of us, they aren’t all the perfect people we think they are from general public perception.

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It's the same dynamic we see with "dry counties:" next to the "dry" county line there's always stores offering alcohol for sale in the adjoining county, catering to those coming from the "dry" one.

It really is impossible to legislate morality.

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This guy, Zenking just has a really bad approach, a mentality that has to change if he is really to succeed (and he hasn't yet despite what he insists on labeling himself). A card counter has to have a short memory, just like a quarterback who just threw an interception or a closing relief pitcher that just blew a save. If you dwell on the negatives, they spiral out of control effecting your play and game.

I know when I get in one of those bad runs, where I am losing for weeks and months at a time, and I have had 5-6 that last months, but it effects you and your game and contributes to that downward spiral. When I am in one of those really bad ruts, the first max bet or double down that I lose in a new day or session, you think to yourself "here we go again". Then without even realizing it, you are pressing and chasing losses. It is human nature and you have to work hard to fight it.

So in Zenkings case, he has convinced himself that casinos are cheating on holiday weekends, so as soon as he losses a big hand, a max bet or double down, he is saying to himself "here we go again" and immediately transformed into that negative mindset where the discipline needed to play the game fades and compulsive poor decision making takes over, contributing to even more losses and reinforcing this false narrative.

One option which I frequently mention is avoid whatever trigger is setting you off, in this case the holdiay weekend. But then you will have different triggers, a certain casino (which we already see) or a certain dealer or any number of things that "cause" your losing and if you avoid them all, it won't be long before you have no place or time to play.

The better option is to change that mentality, accept and understand that blackjack card counting involves periods of losing and stop dwelling on and making these periods worse. Next thing you know you will have a winning holiday weekend or two and or that long period of losing ends and you realize there was nothing unusual, just the natural swings of the game.

A player must focus on the longterm and stop reading things into shortterm results or small sample size, which is easy to do. Any player that can't learn to do that is probably doomed to failure or at least limited success compared to what he should experience. Longterm! Everything about this game is longterm. Shortterm means nothing.

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You never do get it kew. ZK provides these dumb stories to get you to pretend he's being serious so you can respond like a fool who believes he's interjecting anecdotes.

By the way, there's no need for you to "report results" anytime anymore. We've already got the stories down pat: "I started out losing quite a bit, but by the time the weekend was over I ended up slightly ahead". Or....(and we've seen this multiple times also)--"I got killed for the last several months, but I made it all back and more with the wonderful month that just ended!" And, of course, many more that appease all the make-believe kew fans....

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The funny part is that this is exactly the way playing with an advantage works...you just have no clue what it means to play with an advantage.

If you are playing with an advantage, and playing disciplined and correctly (not chasing or overbetting), your longterm results will be an upward trajectory. It is not an accident, or something miraclulous as you seem to think. The mathematics guarantees it. So while there will be valleys, consisting of losing periods, some consisting of weeks and months and 10's of thousands of dollars, the math guarantees, you will continue that upward trajectory and reach new heights.

The only thing astonishing is that after all these years, you still haven't the slightest clue as to what playing with an advantage is and continue to say the stupid things you just did.

Who is having compulsive behavior at the tables? Don't project your shitty skillset and lack of discipline on to me. Chasing losses? Lmao. Maybe you do cause you're a fraud degen bitch that loves to talk like he's an expert like everyone else on discord, but I don't need your shit unsolicited advice. It's so easy to try and talk like an expert in blackjack and just repeatedly say 'long term', the game is about the 'long term'. Some guy in India that never played a hand in his life can say that too. WOW. Thank you so much for that expert advice.

And for the millionth time, it's not the 2k loss, it's the scenario that causes it you fucking braindeas pigeons. Why do I have to keep reminding you idiots. 2k happens especially at 2x250 and avoiding negatives. But why must it always happen on holiday weekends? Literally tell me how many times I lost 2k in the past 600 hours within a 2 hour span. I lost -2725 yesterday. Tell me the last time in a 2 hour span I lost close to 3k. It rarely happens and all of a sudden a holiday weekend comes around and boom immediately lose 3k. What happened on memorial day weekend. I lost 5500. HOW. You're telling me 2 out of the last 3 times I've had a big loss in a short span came from 2 recent holiday weekends rofl. It's like you guys are retarded. The whole industry is shady as fuck. I have the data. It's official. I'm done believing it's a coincidence. And here's the thing, let's say it continues to be a coincidence. Imagine being trolled nonstop to never win on a holiday weekend just to piss you off even further. You guys have no clue. I'm literally 3 for 23 in past holiday weekends. That's a rough estimate off the top of my head cause I was keeping a tally at one point. I don't know how many I exactly lost but I only remember winning 3 times. THREE times since May 2017 hahahahah. Not only have I lost literally every time. I get KILLED

My god you are an ungrateful prick.

Keep telling us how you are the greatest while in the next breath how you can't win and everyone is cheating you and out to get you. Idiot.

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Who is having compulsive behavior at the tables? Don't project your shitty skillset and lack of discipline on to me. Chasing losses? Lmao. Maybe you do cause you're a fraud degen bitch that loves to talk like he's an expert like everyone else on discord, but I don't need your shit unsolicited advice. It's so easy to try and talk like an expert in blackjack and just repeatedly say 'long term', the game is about the 'long term'. Some guy in India that never played a hand in his life can say that too. WOW. Thank you so much for that expert advice.

And for the millionth time, it's not the 2k loss, it's the scenario that causes it you fucking braindeas pigeons. Why do I have to keep reminding you idiots. 2k happens especially at 2x250 and avoiding negatives. But why must it always happen on holiday weekends? Literally tell me how many times I lost 2k in the past 600 hours within a 2 hour span. I lost -2725 yesterday. Tell me the last time in a 2 hour span I lost close to 3k. It rarely happens and all of a sudden a holiday weekend comes around and boom immediately lose 3k. What happened on memorial day weekend. I lost 5500. HOW. You're telling me 2 out of the last 3 times I've had a big loss in a short span came from 2 recent holiday weekends rofl. It's like you guys are retarded. The whole industry is shady as fuck. I have the data. It's official. I'm done believing it's a coincidence. And here's the thing, let's say it continues to be a coincidence. Imagine being trolled nonstop to never win on a holiday weekend just to piss you off even further. You guys have no clue. I'm literally 3 for 23 in past holiday weekends. That's a rough estimate off the top of my head cause I was keeping a tally at one point. I don't know how many I exactly lost but I only remember winning 3 times. THREE times since May 2017 hahahahah. Not only have I lost literally every time. I get KILLED

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The GOAT advice would be to not play holiday weekends. This scam city is rigged with Chinese prison decks.....RIP

Why do you think the casinos are willing to pay those ridiculous lease rates for shufflers? :D

AGAINNN vabahhahah. First 45 minutes down 1400 rofll. Tell me the last time I had these swings hhahha. Oh that's right memorial day weekend lmao. -5500 that weekend. Rinse and repeat. And to think you idiots and the public think everything's on the up and up. Look at my fucking results. Every holiday weekend this happens? I don't just lose I fucking get crushed? I'm down 7600 after 117 hours during this losing streak and guyess what is responsible for it? I lost a total of 8300 so far memorial day weekend and labor day weekend. July 4th was basically breakeven. 8300 hahahahha. And you guys think that's NORMAL rofl

https://i.imgur.com/ZswV2dh.jpg

I guarantee whether or not it's a holiday weekend has nothing to do with whether ASMs are rigged or not. You're probably just misplaying when you're on tilt due to superstition.

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Yesterday, which was a Saturday during the holiday weekend, I payed 3 sessions on the strip late afternoon, early evening before attending the BYU-Arizona football game at Allegiant stadium, more to check out the stadium than the game, but it was fun and a good game. The stadium is magnificent BTW. Probably way too nice for the Raider fans that will attend, especially those "crazies" traveling from Oakland. :D I hope they don't destroy the stadium before my next visit end of October for the Eagles game.

So my 3 sessions prior to the game at 3 different strip properties were uneventful. One good winning session, one big losing session and one basically even (a very small loss) Basically even for the day (technically a very small loss). But it was enough that I can say, I didn't feel anything was rigged. Seemed like a very fair and typical game. Will be playing twice more during the holiday weekend, at least once on the strip. I don't know if I will report results, but I feel very comfortable that there is no reason not to play the strip or play at all during a holiday weekend. It is a chance for me to bump up my stakes.

So here is an unrelated observation:. While playing, there were players in BYU "garb" at 2 of my 3 tables played, plus I noticed other playing in the casinos. BYU fans always travel well and are well represented when one of their teams is playing in Vegas, so nothing unusual about that. But I found myself wondering....BYU is a Mormon school and isn't gambling against Mormon rules or beliefs?

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What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. There's an old joke about Mormons that goes like this: How many Mormons should you carry with you on a fishing trip? The answer is at least two. If carry only one he'll drink all your beer and smoke all your cigarettes.

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Gambling Mormons from Utah is why Wendover is the gambling town it is. Granted not Vegas or even Laughlin. But it’s bigger than a small town on the border should be. Like all of us, they aren’t all the perfect people we think they are from general public perception.

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It's the same dynamic we see with "dry counties:" next to the "dry" county line there's always stores offering alcohol for sale in the adjoining county, catering to those coming from the "dry" one.

It really is impossible to legislate morality.

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Mormons that have gone astray are called "Jack Mormons." And while its against Mormon belief to gamble it's quite okay for them to work in a casino. Mormons ran Howard Hughes casino empire. The casino employee's in Mesquite used to be mostly mormons that lived in St. George, Utah.

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I guarantee whether or not it's a holiday weekend has nothing to do with whether ASMs are rigged or not. You're probably just misplaying when you're on tilt due to superstition.

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I dunno, the data is pretty compelling.

I can't believe none of these guys told you the holiday weekend move on the rigged decks. Send me a PM. I'll hook you up.

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Mormons that have gone astray are called "Jack Mormons." And while its against Mormon belief to gamble it's quite okay for them to work in a casino. Mormons ran Howard Hughes casino empire. The casino employee's in Mesquite used to be mostly mormons that lived in St. George, Utah.

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Mormons have a very long history in Las Vegas: see "Old Mormon Fort."

Mormon money helped build the casinos, too: Mormon banker E. Parry Thomas bankrolled them when nobody else would, and made a lot of money.

He also jump-started the career of that Las Vegas mogul, Steve Wynn: I always wondered "Why?" he took Wynn under his wing and spoon-fed him deals and Mormon money.

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Mormons that have gone astray are called "Jack Mormons." And while its against Mormon belief to gamble it's quite okay for them to work in a casino. Mormons ran Howard Hughes casino empire. The casino employee's in Mesquite used to be mostly mormons that lived in St. George, Utah.

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Mormons have a very long history in Las Vegas: see "Old Mormon Fort."

Mormon money helped build the casinos, too: Mormon banker E. Parry Thomas bankrolled them when nobody else would, and made a lot of money.

He also jump-started the career of that Las Vegas mogul, Steve Wynn: I always wondered "Why?" he took Wynn under his wing and spoon-fed him deals and Mormon money.

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Also made the loan to Bill Bennett and William Pennington for 25 mil to buy Circus Circus when their combined assets only totaled 1.5 mil...they then parlayed that into Excalibur, Luxor and Mandalay Bay. Although I don’t know if either was around for Mandalay Bay

Back in its heyday Circus Circus was perhaps the most profitable casino on the strip.

Most folks know nothing about Bennett and Pennignton; read "Super Casino" if curious.

Zenking will never accept he is not self-aware when there are holidays as the most likely reason by now. I suspect the most likely reason beyond him being right is he is oblivious to the mental mistakes he is making and is in complete denial of. He I allege cannot see and cannot remember and he remembers what he thinks he remembers. The casino can at times be a terrorizing place where the mind doesn't sometimes function properly under stress. People can sometimes not remember even being there at a casino.

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Zenking will never accept he is not self-aware when there are holidays as the most likely reason by now. I suspect the most likely reason beyond him being right is he is oblivious to the mental mistakes he is making and is in complete denial of. He I allege cannot see and cannot remember and he remembers what he thinks he remembers. The casino can at times be a terrorizing place where the mind doesn't sometimes function properly under stress. People can sometimes not remember even being there at a casino.

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This pretty much sounds right. I mean it should be sorta obvious to anyone that what Zenking does and what he remembers himself doing are very likely 2 different things. Dude is too mental to have any sort of significant and valuable self-introspection. It is all some external forces, never himself and he does this publicly. There is almost 0 chance his own introspection is very valid unfortunately.

But damn fuck they're some great rants.

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Zenking will never accept he is not self-aware when there are holidays as the most likely reason by now. I suspect the most likely reason beyond him being right is he is oblivious to the mental mistakes he is making and is in complete denial of. He I allege cannot see and cannot remember and he remembers what he thinks he remembers. The casino can at times be a terrorizing place where the mind doesn't sometimes function properly under stress. People can sometimes not remember even being there at a casino.

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This pretty much sounds right. I mean it should be sorta obvious to anyone that what Zenking does and what he remembers himself doing are very likely 2 different things. Dude is too mental to have any sort of significant and valuable self-introspection. It is all some external forces, never himself and he does this publicly. There is almost 0 chance his own introspection is very valid unfortunately.

But damn fuck they're some great rants.

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Just another reason to look forward to Columbus Day weekend. Appliance Sales and ZK getting fucked, now that’s America!

As he claims to be the GOAT, and as he seems to fancy himself the secret king of the world, it is tough for mere mortals like us to actually relate to a being of such self-proclaimed magnificence.

Hard drugs would probably help.

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As he claims to be the GOAT, and as he seems to fancy himself the secret king of the world, it is tough for mere mortals like us to actually relate to a being of such self-proclaimed magnificence.

Hard drugs would probably help.

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Whatever V, you’re probably the type of guy who lives in Gresham and tells people you’re from Portland

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Whatever V, you’re probably the type of guy who lives in Gresham and tells people you’re from Portland

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Isn't the Lents neighborhood part of Portland?

Ah, felony flats: where hope goes to die.

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Just another reason to look forward to Columbus Day weekend. Appliance Sales and ZK getting fucked, now that’s America!

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I don't know, Columbus day weekend, Martin Luther King weekend and President's day weekend all seem to be a little different than say, Labor Day weekend and Memorial Day weekend. With the 3 mentioned first, almost all the additional traffic from that of a normal weekend, comes from people driving in from California. I think a check of air traffic would show only a minor increase if any from normal weekends. But Labor day and Memorial day while drawing that California drive in traffic, also seems to draw more air traffic in people from say the midwest and even east coast.

I don't know why as it is the same 3 day weekend.

Personally, I started playing the strip at least one weekend night each week, in July when masks were mandated again, as I knew I could play higher limits than I normally do. In July the strip on a Saturday night seemed like old times (pre-covid). By August, as covid numbers began to climb again, it was less crowded. Labor Day seemed less like a holiday weekend and more like a regular weekend as far as crowds. I didn't play last weekend and have friends coming to town for the Life is Beautiful festival downtown this weekend, so won't be playing. I may give strip play at higher limits a shot on Columbus day weekend and see how crowded it is, but I think my plan of playing weekends on the strip with crowded conditions and the mask mandate might be about over for the moment. Not crowded enough to get done what I am trying to get done.

As for Zenking and what he is doing on holiday weekends....who knows?!?! :confused: What he should do is take the holiday weekends off, relax, have a cookout with friends, almost anything but play blackjack, as he is just not of the right mindset to do so on holiday weekends right now. But what do I know? :rolleyes:

Make every day a holiday. I revel in his losing!