Singer VS Crimm

Two gritty veteran forum warriors with very colourful history's are currently in a battle for first to get to 10k posts, this is a VCT milestone. The only other pioneer to accomplish this is AWOL defunct crybaby Alan/Andrew. Singer has a comfortable lead currently sitting at 9670 with a somewhat inconsistent erratic posting volume. Crimm has 9209 posts and has a lot more momentum going then Robbie has. Which one of these hardcores is going to get there first ? Reliving the forum glory days when these two jokers, had some of the best back in forths in the last 15+ years. One thing is certain whatever happens, these two are an absolute shoe in for the forum Hall of Fame.

Neck and neck; who will falter and who will grab the brass ring>

So much at stake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z66hw6q-zY

If Kewlj is posting here it will be slobby Robby. If Kew takes a break Mick has a chance.

I know Ozzy and a few others celebrate the act of the troll. I don't.

Mickeycrimm is a real advantage player and a top notch one at that. He has shared some of his story, some of what he does in great detail, supported by the math, and has at times called out those making claims that can't be because they defy math....one of those being Singer. AP's and really anyone have a right to do this, if the math doesn't work.

Rob Singer is a guy who for decades now has made claims that defy math. I am not even speaking of the double up bug claim, which is a real claim, just one that he stole. I am talking about all the progression system wagering claims, special plays, stop limit, machines telepathing information, duplicate short term variance type wins, overcoming long-term negative expectation. Mickeycrimm and others had and still have every right to challenge these math defying claims.

And because Singer can't answer for these challenges to claims that defy math, he personally attacks those that legitimately challenge. This is a pure troll play. And the play of a bully meant to send a message to others, not to challenge his fantasy claims. Mickey, just refused to allow this bullying and trolled back.

I get that Ozzy and others enjoy that, but for God sakes, don't even mention Singer in the same breath as Mickeycrimm. One is a real advantage player who has shared his story and plays backed by mathematics. The other an internet troll/bully making claims that defy math.

And now others seem to be following that same playbook. When they can't answer legitimate challenges to their claims that defy math, they resort to personal attacks.

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I know Ozzy and a few others celebrate the act of the troll. I don't.

Mickeycrimm is a real advantage player and a top notch one at that. He has shared some of his story, some of what he does in great detail, supported by the math, and has at times called out those making claims that can't be because they defy math....one of those being Singer. AP's and really anyone have a right to do this, if the math doesn't work.

Rob Singer is a guy who for decades now has made claims that defy math. I am not even speaking of the double up bug claim, which is a real claim, just one that he stole. I am talking about all the progression system wagering claims, special plays, stop limit, machines telepathing information, duplicate short term variance type wins, overcoming long-term negative expectation. Mickeycrimm and others had and still have every right to challenge these math defying claims.

And because Singer can't answer for these challenges to claims that defy math, he personally attacks those that legitimately challenge. This is a pure troll play. And the play of a bully meant to send a message to others, not to challenge his fantasy claims. Mickey, just refused to allow this bullying and trolled back.

I get that Ozzy and others enjoy that, but for God sakes, don't even mention Singer in the same breath as Mickeycrimm. One is a real advantage player who has shared his story and plays backed by mathematics. The other an internet troll/bully making claims that defy math.

And now others seem to be following that same playbook. When they can't answer legitimate challenges to their claims that defy math, they resort to personal attacks.

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Kewl, who is more evil Putin or Singer?

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I know Ozzy and a few others celebrate the act of the troll. I don't.

Mickeycrimm is a real advantage player and a top notch one at that. He has shared some of his story, some of what he does in great detail, supported by the math, and has at times called out those making claims that can't be because they defy math....one of those being Singer. AP's and really anyone have a right to do this, if the math doesn't work.

Rob Singer is a guy who for decades now has made claims that defy math. I am not even speaking of the double up bug claim, which is a real claim, just one that he stole. I am talking about all the progression system wagering claims, special plays, stop limit, machines telepathing information, duplicate short term variance type wins, overcoming long-term negative expectation. Mickeycrimm and others had and still have every right to challenge these math defying claims.

And because Singer can't answer for these challenges to claims that defy math, he personally attacks those that legitimately challenge. This is a pure troll play. And the play of a bully meant to send a message to others, not to challenge his fantasy claims. Mickey, just refused to allow this bullying and trolled back.

I get that Ozzy and others enjoy that, but for God sakes, don't even mention Singer in the same breath as Mickeycrimm. One is a real advantage player who has shared his story and plays backed by mathematics. The other an internet troll/bully making claims that defy math.

And now others seem to be following that same playbook. When they can't answer legitimate challenges to their claims that defy math, they resort to personal attacks.

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Another going-nowhere essay from the most prolific forum-phony of all time.

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I know Ozzy and a few others celebrate the act of the troll. I don't.
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And now others seem to be following that same playbook. When they can't answer legitimate challenges to their claims that defy math, they resort to personal attacks.

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Kewl, who is more evil Putin or Singer?

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Kewwwl, puuuhleeze. I sincerely want to read your take.

Let me put it another way, who cause a greater harm to the world?

Well let me put it yet another way..

Is it more admirable to valiantly defend your homeland of Ukraine or more admirable to make sure no one believes Rob Singer?

Which of these 2 group of defenders is more important?

Don't be an asshole, AinQ. I never said or implied Singer, Mdog or any person intentionally misleading other gamblers and players were on a level with madmen world leaders murdering people.

This isn't supposed to be a political forum and I try to steer clear of political discussions, even as horrendous as the Ukranian situation is. What this is supposed to be is a gambling forum. And to that, people that repeatedly spout bullshit claims that defy math, reality and serve to harm other that will attempt to duplicate, should be called out. And if the person is going to continue to repeat the BS claims, then the calling out should also be continuous.

I had this very discussion with Norm Wattenberger on the blackjack forum that I first called someone out for claims that defied math. It so happens the poster was the leading poster on that forum (isn't that always the case). The guy had 14,000 posts when no one else even had 4000. And most of his 14,000 posts were about his bullshit super duper count and claims that defied math. I criticized Norm, a math guy for not calling out the claims. Norm responded that he had called out the claims as BS and he was right...he had. Maybe half dozen time. But the guy made these claims thousands of times! THAT is the way these guys work. They just keep repeating their BS claims, knowing they can overwhelm anyone challenging them. It then becomes a case of a lie repeated enough times becomes accepted as the truth. :(

Well, I sorry if it bothers you, but I won't let that happen. As long as these BSers continue to repeat their claims, I will continue to call them out.

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What this is supposed to be is a gambling forum. And to that, people that repeatedly spout bullshit claims that defy math, reality and serve to harm other that will attempt to duplicate, should be called out. And if the person is going to continue to repeat the BS claims, then the calling out should also be continuous.

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Spike/Evenbob and a few others are over on Gambling Forums continually saying they consistently beat roulette. You post a lot over there yet you never call them out on their bullshit. Why? Here you say people that defy the math should be continually called out. Why aren't you calling them out?

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Spike/Evenbob and a few others are over on Gambling Forums continually saying they consistently beat roulette. You post a lot over there yet you never call them out on their bullshit. Why? Here you say people that defy the math should be continually called out. Why aren't you calling them out?

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I don't read Spike, nor the roulette threads. I am also trying not to participate there much as the owner allowed people to doxx a fulltime player, trying to harm or end their career. THAT I cannot support. Why are YOU reading him and if it bothers you, you should say something.

But here is the difference with Spike. 1) No one takes him seriously. It is obvious from his long history he wants to argue. Now before you claim the same of Singer, there were people on this forum like SlingShot who admitted to trying to use Singer's progression system. And surely there were others. The guy wrote 2 books for God sakes.

Also, again, I don't read Spike, so I don't know what his claims are as to specifics. What I have read I don't remember him promoting progression wagering. I only remember him vaguely saying he beats roulette with no explanation. So I have nothing to challenge. Again, if YOU have read something more specific, YOU should challenge him.

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What this is supposed to be is a gambling forum. And to that, people that repeatedly spout bullshit claims that defy math, reality and serve to harm other that will attempt to duplicate, should be called out. And if the person is going to continue to repeat the BS claims, then the calling out should also be continuous.

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Spike/Evenbob and a few others are over on Gambling Forums continually saying they consistently beat roulette. You post a lot over there yet you never call them out on their bullshit. Why? Here you say people that defy the math should be continually called out. Why aren't you calling them out?

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Well certainly one would expect kew to follow thru on his claim of being the AP Sheriff on all internet gaming forums. However, the administrator over at GF caught onto, exposed, and excoriated kew for being full of shit on multiple occasions. So we can understand his timidness and excuse for once again, failing to do what he espouses.

According to kew, people who seem to defy gambling math should be called out . But just like our lying president's despicable cowering from behind pansy-ass NATO's allowing Putin to do whatever inhumane actions he chooses after our Joey promised the people of Ukraine he'd "always have their back" in 2014, all liberals seem to meltdown like warm, rotten butter when actual rubber hits the road.

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However, the administrator over at GF caught onto, exposed, and excoriated kew for being full of shit on multiple occasions.

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This is another Singer lie. The administrator NEVER said I was full of shit. What he said was "I wasn't special". I had requested that Mdog and Moses not be allowed to doxx me, potentially harming my career. His response was that I wasn't special....a position no other gambling forum administrator would take. But of course that guy isn't a gambling guy...he is a guy that runs forums....all different kind of forums. And that is why few real gambling people and even fewer AP's participate there. There once was a whole group of real players and AP's, mickey and myself and Axel and several others that were there.

So you know what that retard (The GF administrator) does when someone doxxes like Mdog and Moses did? His penalty is he slows their internet access down for a few days. This is also a penalty he imposes on me when I say something negative about him. :D

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What this is supposed to be is a gambling forum. And to that, people that repeatedly spout bullshit claims that defy math, reality and serve to harm other that will attempt to duplicate, should be called out. And if the person is going to continue to repeat the BS claims, then the calling out should also be continuous.

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Spike/Evenbob and a few others are over on Gambling Forums continually saying they consistently beat roulette. You post a lot over there yet you never call them out on their bullshit. Why? Here you say people that defy the math should be continually called out. Why aren't you calling them out?

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Well certainly one would expect kew to follow thru on his claim of being the AP Sheriff on all internet gaming forums. However, the administrator over at GF caught onto, exposed, and excoriated kew for being full of shit on multiple occasions. So we can understand his timidness and excuse for once again, failing to do what he espouses.

According to kew, people who seem to defy gambling math should be called out . But just like our lying president's despicable cowering from behind pansy-ass NATO's allowing Putin to do whatever inhumane actions he chooses after our Joey promised the people of Ukraine he'd "always have their back" in 2014, all liberals seem to meltdown like warm, rotten butter when actual rubber hits the road.

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Rob if you had to vote for the lesser of the evils, who would you choose ? Senile Bumbling Biden or you're buddy Barrack Osama ?

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Don't be an asshole, AinQ. I never said or implied Singer, Mdog or any person intentionally misleading other gamblers and players were on a level with madmen world leaders murdering people.

This isn't supposed to be a political forum and I try to steer clear of political discussions, even as horrendous as the Ukranian situation is. What this is supposed to be is a gambling forum. And to that, people that repeatedly spout bullshit claims that defy math, reality and serve to harm other that will attempt to duplicate, should be called out. And if the person is going to continue to repeat the BS claims, then the calling out should also be continuous.

I had this very discussion with Norm Wattenberger on the blackjack forum that I first called someone out for claims that defied math. It so happens the poster was the leading poster on that forum (isn't that always the case). The guy had 14,000 posts when no one else even had 4000. And most of his 14,000 posts were about his bullshit super duper count and claims that defied math. I criticized Norm, a math guy for not calling out the claims. Norm responded that he had called out the claims as BS and he was right...he had. Maybe half dozen time. But the guy made these claims thousands of times! THAT is the way these guys work. They just keep repeating their BS claims, knowing they can overwhelm anyone challenging them. It then becomes a case of a lie repeated enough times becomes accepted as the truth. :(

Well, I sorry if it bothers you, but I won't let that happen. As long as these BSers continue to repeat their claims, I will continue to call them out.

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Kewl, I try to not take this stuff too seriously. I've had similar issues as you do in the past. Ultimately I'm just razzing you. It is too enticing to me when you take yourself so seriously. I'm basically an anti-social troll.

Asshole or not, I hope I made a few people chuckle. Your obsession with the goofball that is Rob Singer is one of the best most consistent things this forum has going for it.

You keep on being you and regardless of what the admin of GF says, YOU ARE SPECIAL.

LOVE YOU MAN - NO GAY STUFF THOUGH.

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Spike/Evenbob and a few others are over on Gambling Forums continually saying they consistently beat roulette. You post a lot over there yet you never call them out on their bullshit. Why? Here you say people that defy the math should be continually called out. Why aren't you calling them out?

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I don't read Spike, nor the roulette threads. I am also trying not to participate there much as the owner allowed people to doxx a fulltime player, trying to harm or end their career. THAT I cannot support. Why are YOU reading him and if it bothers you, you should say something.

But here is the difference with Spike. 1) No one takes him seriously. It is obvious from his long history he wants to argue. Now before you claim the same of Singer, there were people on this forum like SlingShot who admitted to trying to use Singer's progression system. And surely there were others. The guy wrote 2 books for God sakes.

Also, again, I don't read Spike, so I don't know what his claims are as to specifics. What I have read I don't remember him promoting progression wagering. I only remember him vaguely saying he beats roulette with no explanation. So I have nothing to challenge. Again, if YOU have read something more specific, YOU should challenge him.

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Spike says he beats roulette everyday and you are saying you don't give a fuck about his math defying lies. Why are you giving HIM a pass? You just said anyone that says they defy the math sould be called out everyday. But here you are not doing it. That makes you a bald face liar.

And it means you are really going after people not because of math defying claims but because you have a grudge.

The administration at GF have absolutely no credibility. Just go back to it's founding and all of the fake profiles they created. And they still steal posts from other sites.

Give it up Crimm.

GF might be a farce overall, but I have a lot more respect for the Admin over there then I do for weasel boy Rusty and his "house". At least the restrictions are at a bare minimum over at GF.

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However, the administrator over at GF caught onto, exposed, and excoriated kew for being full of shit on multiple occasions.

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This is another Singer lie. The administrator NEVER said I was full of shit. What he said was "I wasn't special". I had requested that Mdog and Moses not be allowed to doxx me, potentially harming my career. His response was that I wasn't special....a position no other gambling forum administrator would take. But of course that guy isn't a gambling guy...he is a guy that runs forums....all different kind of forums. And that is why few real gambling people and even fewer AP's participate there. There once was a whole group of real players and AP's, mickey and myself and Axel and several others that were there.

So you know what that retard (The GF administrator) does when someone doxxes like Mdog and Moses did? His penalty is he slows their internet access down for a few days. This is also a penalty he imposes on me when I say something negative about him. :D

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Kew is not special like he wants to believe he is, because he's always so full of shit.

You know that's true, I know that's true, and the GF admin. obviously knows it's true. You also know what a laughing stock you are across the forums. Plus you love licking hairy asses. :)

So take your medicine and stop having nervous breakdowns!

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Kew is not special like he wants to believe he is, because he's always so full of shit.

You know that's true, I know that's true, and the GF admin. obviously knows it's true. You also know what a laughing stock you are across the forums. Plus you love licking hairy asses. :)

So take your medicine and stop having nervous breakdowns!

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I have never heard anyone....not a single person on any gambling forum, talk about licking hairy asses other than you, completely infatuated with gay male sex. I have no doubt you are the biggest, closeted fag on the internet.

Rob hates fags and he hates blacks because Rob is a closeted fag of African heritage. Self hate!

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Rob hates fags and he hates blacks because Rob is a closeted fag of African heritage. Self hate!

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There are definitely some questions I'd like to ask for confirmation and/or denial.

If I troll both you and Rob in the same post, is that morally ok?

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There are definitely some questions I'd like to ask for confirmation and/or denial.

If I troll both you and Rob in the same post, is that morally ok?

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What are you talking about now?

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Give it up Crimm.

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Everyone is right about you, KJ. You're just a bullshit hypocrite. To candy ass to back your own words up. And you lick hairy asses.

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Everyone is right about you, KJ. You're just a bullshit hypocrite. To candy ass to back your own words up. And you lick hairy asses.

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Crawl back inside your bottle Crimm. Talk about your candy asses, here is a guy afraid to face the world outside his bottle for 40 years.

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There are definitely some questions I'd like to ask for confirmation and/or denial.

If I troll both you and Rob in the same post, is that morally ok?

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What are you talking about now?

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Well to be more specific, I'd like to see you answer why you don't go after the roulette guy.

Come'on admit it is CLEARLY something personal with Rob.

The fact that you can't do so just makes all this more lolable.

Seriously - I get a rise out of you just by complimenting Singer. ROFL.

Singer's book is out of print and it isn't exactly selling for a premium. Who're you savin' from who ! ???

I don't want to ask Robert about his ancestry because the liberal side of me says to avoid being racist.

I'm going with "yes it is ok if you troll both of us at once".

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Come'on admit it is CLEARLY something personal with Rob.

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Well of course it becomes personal when someone tries to discredit me for years with complete lies.

It doesn't start out personal with me. It starts out with me challenging claims that can't be. It isn't personal. It is math. And that is how it started with Singer. But when these guys attack back, attack someone's race, or sexuality, family members and then start all this lying, about everything from education to what spouses died of, to what I made last year, YES it becomes personal.

And all these guys do that or have done that with me. Singer, Mdog, Moses. They can't answer that their math doesn't only not work but the claims outright defy the mathematics, so they start attacking with made up lies, like a 3rd grader. I never attack anyone first. I point out their claim don't work because of the math or in Moses's case because you can't play BJ professionally in Reno.

The first guy I called out on a blackjack forum, that his claims couldn't be because the math didn't work (he was claiming a 5% advantage from his super duper card counting system), he was different than these others in that he never attacked me personally. Nor I him. It was just about the math and not personal. And years later we still talked on a different forums, and low and behold he admitted he was using a small sample size and when he played more, his math didn't hold up.

And that is the way it should be. It is about the math. But most of these guys, when they can't answer for that their math doesn't work and their claims defy math, do what Singer does, attack. He does that to deter others from challenging. It is a bully tactic. But I will not be bullied. His claims defy math....no matter what names he calls me.

And Mdog has followed Singers playbook to a tee. Read the lies these guys continue to post at GF's. Stupid stuff, like I am a high school drop out and has a losing year in 2020. Nobody has shared the things I have shared in the detail I have shared. 2020 was a horrible year for me. The worst of my career. I shared it as I was going through it. I finished at 14k profit, some 70k below expectation. But it wasn't a losing year. Yet Mdog has stated I had a losing year probably 100 times now.

And Singer, he continues to say this stupid shit about high school drop out and calling my partner my sugar daddy. I graduated high school and was homeless the last 3 months, so had to take 2 public transit buses from the shelter to school every day. I am damn proud that I finished and graduated. And my partner was on disability for 20 years since the day I met him and had no money.

But these guys can't answer that their math doesn't work so they lie with their attacks. They are trolls. These are supposed to be fucking grown men!

And as for the "roulette guy", I already explained that. I haven't read most of his posts and claims. I didn't read much of his million posts at WoV, where he was Evenbob, and I don't read much at GF where he is Spike. I just have never found much interest in what he posts.

There also are a million people on Youtube that I don't go after, as well as other platforms. Why? because I don't read them! I don't go searching for people to call out. BUT if someone is on a forum that I am on and I read repeated claims that defy math and can't be, I will say something.

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And as for the "roulette guy", I already explained that. I haven't read most of his posts and claims. I didn't read much of his million posts at WoV, where he was Evenbob, and I don't read much at GF where he is Spike. I just have never found much interest in what he posts.

There also are a million people on Youtube that I don't go after, as well as other platforms. Why? because I don't read them! I don't go searching for people to call out. BUT if someone is on a forum that I am on and I read repeated claims that defy math and can't be, I will say something.

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Well you put yourself up as some lofty dude helping the rubes out. In your longer post (lol) you pretty much admit to it being personal - only that you're justified because they went after you first. We're making progress.

Acknowledging you have a problem is the first step.

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Everyone is right about you, KJ. You're just a bullshit hypocrite. To candy ass to back your own words up. And you lick hairy asses.

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Crawl back inside your bottle Crimm. Talk about your candy asses, here is a guy afraid to face the world outside his bottle for 40 years.

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March 1st was five years since I had a drink, bitch. You're just a shit talking IDIOT. You don't give a fuck about people being on the wrong side of the math. You just give a fuck about trashing people you hold a grudge against. YOU HAVE NO CREDIBILITY. REPEAT. YOU HAVE NO FUCKING CREDIBILITY. YOU'RE THE LAUGHING STOCK OF THE GAMBLING FORUMS. CAN'T BACK YOUR OWN FUCKING WORDS UP, LOSER. NOW GO LICK SOME HAIRY ASS.

KJ IS EVENBOB'S BITCH

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Everyone is right about you, KJ. You're just a bullshit hypocrite. To candy ass to back your own words up. And you lick hairy asses.

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Crawl back inside your bottle Crimm. Talk about your candy asses, here is a guy afraid to face the world outside his bottle for 40 years.

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March 1st was five years since I had a drink, bitch. You're just a shit talking IDIOT. You don't give a fuck about people being on the wrong side of the math. You just give a fuck about trashing people you hold a grudge against. YOU HAVE NO CREDIBILITY. REPEAT. YOU HAVE NO FUCKING CREDIBILITY. YOU'RE THE LAUGHING STOCK OF THE GAMBLING FORUMS. CAN'T BACK YOUR OWN FUCKING WORDS UP, LOSER. NOW GO LICK SOME HAIRY ASS.

KJ IS EVENBOB'S BITCH

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Crimm, you are insane. Seriously, you have lost your mind. Evenbob's bitch.....lol. I have zero interactions with the man. Don't know him. Don't care.

You get all bent out of shape now when I say things about Singers claims, which by the way are the same exact things you said for a decade, challenging his claims. Just now you have formed some silly alliance with Singer because he promised to stop trolling you.

Well i don't care if he is your new boyfriend and you two hairy ass obsessed freaks are doing what to each other, or you are just scared shitless of him, or what. Doesn't change a fucking thing....his claims are still bullshit and he (and now you) bully, troll and attack because he can't answer for the fact that the math doesn't work.

This will be an interesting race folks, it's Robbie's to lose. He's in the drivers seat !

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This will be an interesting race folks, it's Robbie's to lose. He's in the drivers seat !

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I guess this may be the one thing in his life, Singer has a chance to win.....Most posts on a message board. :D

Here are the facts about this guy:

He isn't a winning gambler. He is basically Alan, a losing, degenerate, life long gambler.

Singer endorses and promotes long disproven voodoo gambling ideas, like progressive wagering, stop limits, "special plays", hot and cold cycles, machine talking to him. I mean come on!

He has promoted conspiracy theories that machines aren't random, something that would be illegal in every jurisdiction in America.

He isn't some James Bond like character.

He hasn't made any money gambling.

He doesn't even have any money, nor ever property in his name.

What he is, is a guy who worked a job, gambled ALOT and retired and now has very modest retirement and social security income and lives off his kids.

He can say whatever he likes, Newell. :D Traveling the world as James Bond. :D Double up bug. :D The magical holy grail of progressive wagering and "special plays". :D That is all bunk and because his real identity is known, anyone can see for themselves.

So I don't know what this deal is of celebrating this guy who has lied and trolled for 20 years? He is a degenerate, losing gambler, the likes of Alan. Why is Singer celebrated and Alan not? Because Alan doesn't attack people with 3rd grade insults like Singer does? What the fuck!?!

Going out of your way to bring Alan into a discussion he’s not involved in to take shots at him. Nice work man.

I am sure it seems that way. I just figure it is generally accepted (except by him) that Alan is your everyday -EV, losing type gambler. (Nothing wrong with that)

And that is exactly what this Rob Singer is, so why is he viewed differently because he is a nasty troll on top?

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This will be an interesting race folks, it's Robbie's to lose. He's in the drivers seat !

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I guess this may be the one thing in his life, Singer has a chance to win.....Most posts on a message board. :D

Here are the facts about this guy:

He isn't a winning gambler. He is basically Alan, a losing, degenerate, life long gambler.

Singer endorses and promotes long disproven voodoo gambling ideas, like progressive wagering, stop limits, "special plays", hot and cold cycles, machine talking to him. I mean come on!

He has promoted conspiracy theories that machines aren't random, something that would be illegal in every jurisdiction in America.

He isn't some James Bond like character.

He hasn't made any money gambling.

He doesn't even have any money, nor ever property in his name.

What he is, is a guy who worked a job, gambled ALOT and retired and now has very modest retirement and social security income and lives off his kids.

He can say whatever he likes, Newell. :D Traveling the world as James Bond. :D Double up bug. :D The magical holy grail of progressive wagering and "special plays". :D That is all bunk and because his real identity is known, anyone can see for themselves.

So I don't know what this deal is of celebrating this guy who has lied and trolled for 20 years? He is a degenerate, losing gambler, the likes of Alan. Why is Singer celebrated and Alan not? Because Alan doesn't attack people with 3rd grade insults like Singer does? What the fuck!?!

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Who is "celebrating" Rob Singer. Rob is a funny guy, doesn't mean I celebrate him.

You left out the one of the great if any traits of Rob Singer - getting you all twisted 24/7.

Can't stay away.

This stuff cracks me up.

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I am sure it seems that way. I just figure it is generally accepted (except by him) that Alan is your everyday -EV, losing type gambler. (Nothing wrong with that)

And that is exactly what this Rob Singer is, so why is he viewed differently because he is a nasty troll on top?

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Why don't you explain to the rest of the board how we view Rob Singer?

Please man.

I'm going to keep asking til I get an answer.

I appreciate the entertainment value Singer provided during the fake pandemic.

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So I don't know what this deal is of celebrating this guy who has lied and trolled for 20 years?

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*waves hand*

I know, I know why!

Rob comes off as a Trump, you come off as a Biden.; not poltically, but more text and tone.

Even gambling has become somewhat politicized.

Hey Gringo Rob,

I was recently in Vegas the end of last month for the Rock N Roll Half marathon. I searched everywhere and used every resource I could (ie. VpFree, Wizard of Odds, etc) Still, I couldn't find those Non-Random Video poker Machines you were fraudulently talking about.

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I appreciate the entertainment value Singer provided during the fake pandemic.

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Yea, TBH the Newell thread was one of the higher comedy moments of my history on this forum. Whether Rob intended it or was trying to convince people, I have 0 clue but DAMN it was entertaining.

Rob Singer, I salute you.

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I appreciate the entertainment value Singer provided during the fake pandemic.

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Yea, TBH the Newell thread was one of the higher comedy moments of my history on this forum. Whether Rob intended it or was trying to convince people, I have 0 clue but DAMN it was entertaining.

Rob Singer, I salute you.

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Singer/Jerry Logan/Banjo Jerry/ Aceshii is the most comedic poster of the last 15 years on all forums. Runner up would be a toss between Tyde/ Marty and Frank " Sky Pilot " Stanton to round off the Top 3. Old Frank is most certainly deceased by now and Tyde/ Marty hasn't been heard from in a long while. Rob is the only one still going strong !

Google shows that Frank "Sky Pilot" Stanton is still alive and living at his long time Austin address; hopefully he still has enough teeth left to "nibble at the cheese."

John Patrick is still with us as well.

Singer has certainly made a legacy of sorts for himself due to his posts but he failed at what I thought must be his end goal: monetizing it.

Think how much different things would be if his VP book were deemed credible, millions of copies were sold, and he had his own gambling site and forum devoted to all things Singer.

Alas, we're denied that bit of excess.

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I appreciate the entertainment value Singer provided during the fake pandemic.

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Yea, TBH the Newell thread was one of the higher comedy moments of my history on this forum. Whether Rob intended it or was trying to convince people, I have 0 clue but DAMN it was entertaining.

Rob Singer, I salute you.

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Dan Druff has been waging war against this Christopher Mitchell dude, youtube scammer of gambling claims for a number of years now. Before that, there was the Blackjack Army guy, Morgenstein, or Morganstern, that was scamming people via his youtube videos with piles of money and claims. Everyone was outraged at him. More recently I know there was a lot of talk about a newer youtube scammer....the guy with the stringy long hair. Nobody in the gambling community "salutes" any of these scammers.

I don't get what makes Rob Singer and his 15 years of scamming and trolling so admirable to you guys. And don't give me that Rob hasn't scammed people for money. That is exactly what those two books, (one in your possession) were about. Maybe he didn't sell a lot of books, meaning he was a failure at even scamming people, but he tried. If youtube had been a thing 10 years ago with all the gambling scammers, Rob would have been on youtube.

And let's not forget, he claims he taught, I believe he said a thousand people his progression system, with magical less optimal "special plays" and stop limits. I don't believe he taught 1000 people, but if he did teach even one, you can bet your ass it wasn't for free. He charged for teaching that losing voodoo system. That makes him absolutely no different that Christopher Mitchell or the Blackjack Army guy. Yet somehow, you "salute" Rob Singer. Where is the vomiting emoji?

Rob Singer: Failed advantage player. Failed gambling scammer. Successful losing gambler. Retirement plan: Live off his kids. I don't salute you!

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Crawl back inside your bottle Crimm. Talk about your candy asses, here is a guy afraid to face the world outside his bottle for 40 years.

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March 1st was five years since I had a drink, bitch. You're just a shit talking IDIOT. You don't give a fuck about people being on the wrong side of the math. You just give a fuck about trashing people you hold a grudge against. YOU HAVE NO CREDIBILITY. REPEAT. YOU HAVE NO FUCKING CREDIBILITY. YOU'RE THE LAUGHING STOCK OF THE GAMBLING FORUMS. CAN'T BACK YOUR OWN FUCKING WORDS UP, LOSER. NOW GO LICK SOME HAIRY ASS.

KJ IS EVENBOB'S BITCH

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Crimm, you are insane. Seriously, you have lost your mind. Evenbob's bitch.....lol. I have zero interactions with the man. Don't know him. Don't care.

You get all bent out of shape now when I say things about Singers claims, which by the way are the same exact things you said for a decade, challenging his claims. Just now you have formed some silly alliance with Singer because he promised to stop trolling you.

Well i don't care if he is your new boyfriend and you two hairy ass obsessed freaks are doing what to each other, or you are just scared shitless of him, or what. Doesn't change a fucking thing....his claims are still bullshit and he (and now you) bully, troll and attack because he can't answer for the fact that the math doesn't work.

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I appreciate the entertainment value Singer provided during the fake pandemic.

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Yea, TBH the Newell thread was one of the higher comedy moments of my history on this forum. Whether Rob intended it or was trying to convince people, I have 0 clue but DAMN it was entertaining.

Rob Singer, I salute you.

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Dan Druff has been waging war against this Christopher Mitchell dude, youtube scammer of gambling claims for a number of years now. Before that, there was the Blackjack Army guy, Morgenstein, or Morganstern, that was scamming people via his youtube videos with piles of money and claims. Everyone was outraged at him. More recently I know there was a lot of talk about a newer youtube scammer....the guy with the stringy long hair. Nobody in the gambling community "salutes" any of these scammers.

I don't get what makes Rob Singer and his 15 years of scamming and trolling so admirable to you guys. And don't give me that Rob hasn't scammed people for money. That is exactly what those two books, (one in your possession) were about. Maybe he didn't sell a lot of books, meaning he was a failure at even scamming people, but he tried. If youtube had been a thing 10 years ago with all the gambling scammers, Rob would have been on youtube.

And let's not forget, he claims he taught, I believe he said a thousand people his progression system, with magical less optimal "special plays" and stop limits. I don't believe he taught 1000 people, but if he did teach even one, you can bet your ass it wasn't for free. He charged for teaching that losing voodoo system. That makes him absolutely no different that Christopher Mitchell or the Blackjack Army guy. Yet somehow, you "salute" Rob Singer. Where is the vomiting emoji?

Rob Singer: Failed advantage player. Failed gambling scammer. Successful losing gambler. Retirement plan: Live off his kids. I don't salute you!

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KJocchio, do you ever prove any of the claims you make?

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Google shows that Frank "Sky Pilot" Stanton is still alive and living at his long time Austin address; hopefully he still has enough teeth left to "nibble at the cheese."

John Patrick is still with us as well.

Singer has certainly made a legacy of sorts for himself due to his posts but he failed at what I thought must be his end goal: monetizing it.

Think how much different things would be if his VP book were deemed credible, millions of copies were sold, and he had his own gambling site and forum devoted to all things Singer.

Alas, we're denied that bit of excess.

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Glad to hear old Frank is still kicking at around 92-93. I knew Patrick was still alive and giving em shit.

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I appreciate the entertainment value Singer provided during the fake pandemic.

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Yea, TBH the Newell thread was one of the higher comedy moments of my history on this forum. Whether Rob intended it or was trying to convince people, I have 0 clue but DAMN it was entertaining.

Rob Singer, I salute you.

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Dan Druff has been waging war against this Christopher Mitchell dude, youtube scammer of gambling claims for a number of years now. Before that, there was the Blackjack Army guy, Morgenstein, or Morganstern, that was scamming people via his youtube videos with piles of money and claims. Everyone was outraged at him. More recently I know there was a lot of talk about a newer youtube scammer....the guy with the stringy long hair. Nobody in the gambling community "salutes" any of these scammers.

I don't get what makes Rob Singer and his 15 years of scamming and trolling so admirable to you guys. And don't give me that Rob hasn't scammed people for money. That is exactly what those two books, (one in your possession) were about. Maybe he didn't sell a lot of books, meaning he was a failure at even scamming people, but he tried. If youtube had been a thing 10 years ago with all the gambling scammers, Rob would have been on youtube.

And let's not forget, he claims he taught, I believe he said a thousand people his progression system, with magical less optimal "special plays" and stop limits. I don't believe he taught 1000 people, but if he did teach even one, you can bet your ass it wasn't for free. He charged for teaching that losing voodoo system. That makes him absolutely no different that Christopher Mitchell or the Blackjack Army guy. Yet somehow, you "salute" Rob Singer. Where is the vomiting emoji?

Rob Singer: Failed advantage player. Failed gambling scammer. Successful losing gambler. Retirement plan: Live off his kids. I don't salute you!

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One of the MANY differences between Chrissy Kyle Prescott Mitchell and Robbie is, Mitchell is an obnoxious want to punch his face, ultimate narcissistic delusional scamming cockroach. Singer is funny as fuck and ultimately harmless, not to be taken seriously except to bust a gut in laughter. The only guy impressed by Chrissy Mitchell on these forums is " BaccaratDegen"

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Had to go back and count. I haven't thought about it for awhile. I'm in my 23rd month of sobriety. But you can't say the same can you, Argentino. Got to have that beer buzz everyday, don't you? Your narcissistic imagination runs wild after a couple of beers and you write your most notorious lies about others here on VCT. You're a lush.

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You're the one that rubs the bottle with the genie in it hoping for good results.. You're a pure voodoo gambler.

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Anyone can tell I'm much more educated than you. All you spew is lying ignorant blather. As stupid as they come:
stupid X 29 = Robert Harry Argentino

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Yes, a very good day to remember. Singer shows his ignorance and stupidity again.

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Yes, very lovely story from the past....just like Singer. Over the years he's told hundreds of stories from way back then. And I know you've read a lot of them. You've also seen tons of evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that Singer will lie about anything.

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You were caught as a bald face liar again, Robocchio. When the picture fits....

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Singer definitely claimed to have had Axel followed, dipshit. Just another routine Singer prevarication. He's the most prolific liar in the history of the internet gambling forums.

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Great. We don't want to know what the prolific liar is doing either so why don't you start keeping it to yourself.

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Your life revolves around reading all of KJ's posts word for word. You are obsessed with him. He's in you ignorant head bigtime.

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Robocchio, the attention whore, is having a dialogue with "anonymous coward," blackhole. How appropriate. Maybe Robocchio has changed his mind about anonymous cowards. He likes them now.

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Just more lying Robocchio bullshit. The number of people that read Gaming Today is no more than thousands, if that. I remember the rag. There weren't that many copies spread around town. The widow fired your punk ass and the new owners don't want you. Remember, you told us you were going to have some things published again. That is, when you thought you could squeeze your punk ass back in. They told you to fuck off and die. Then you let the story die here that you were going to have some more things published.

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The above are some mickeycrimm quotes to and about Rob Singer from just a 1 week period in 2019. 1 week! There is 10 more YEARS of this. But that was back when mickey told the truth. Now anybody that still speaks these truths about Rob is the bad guy and mickey will join in the attacks. Sad Crimm....just Sad! Be true to yourself.

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One of the MANY differences between Chrissy Kyle Prescott Mitchell and Robbie is, Mitchell is an obnoxious want to punch his face, ultimate narcissistic delusional scamming cockroach. Singer is funny as fuck and ultimately harmless, not to be taken seriously except to bust a gut in laughter. The only guy impressed by Chrissy Mitchell on these forums is " BaccaratDegen"

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See I think Rob Singer is that same obnoxious, want to punch in the face, ultimate narcissistic delusional scamming cochroach AND a failed advantage player and gambler, who is bitter as hell at that failure. No difference!

What can I google to read some of this Sky Pilot guy's posts?

Thank you for the attempt Kewlj, but you really didn't tell us how we view Singer. I view him as a producer of laughs as do a lot of people at this point. Same thing with you for that matter.

You gave justification for why we should despise him so, but not what our actual view of Singer is.

I really don't care about him and I don't think anyone else here does either. If I saw his pop-up I'm not sure what I'd do. Probably talk to him like I did with Mickey. lolz.

Ok - Step 1 - admit you have a problem.

Kewl, are you on board? Can we have an intervention in this thread.

Lets get you off the Rob Singer crack.

Hairy or not, I'll let you 2 keep it amongst yourselves.

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What can I google to read some of this Sky Pilot guy's posts?

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His board seems to be DOA so I guess your best bet would be to try the wayback machine re: internet archives.

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What can I google to read some of this Sky Pilot guy's posts?

Thank you for the attempt Kewlj, but you really didn't tell us how we view Singer. I view him as a producer of laughs as do a lot of people at this point. Same thing with you for that matter.

You gave justification for why we should despise him so, but not what our actual view of Singer is.

I really don't care about him and I don't think anyone else here does either. If I saw his pop-up I'm not sure what I'd do. Probably talk to him like I did with Mickey. lolz.

Ok - Step 1 - admit you have a problem.

Kewl, are you on board? Can we have an intervention in this thread.

Lets get you off the Rob Singer crack.

Hairy or not, I'll let you 2 keep it amongst yourselves.

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There is limited accessible archives from Gamblers Glen posted at GF, wasn't very hard to find if someone has it on hand. Frank " Sky Pilot " Stanton was named CaptainX something if I recall, absolutely hilarious old dude.

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Anyone can tell I'm much more educated than you. All you spew is lying ignorant blather. As stupid as they come:
stupid X 29 = Robert Harry Argentino

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Yes, a very good day to remember. Singer shows his ignorance and stupidity again.

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Yes, very lovely story from the past....just like Singer. Over the years he's told hundreds of stories from way back then. And I know you've read a lot of them. You've also seen tons of evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that Singer will lie about anything.

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You were caught as a bald face liar again, Robocchio. When the picture fits....

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Singer definitely claimed to have had Axel followed, dipshit. Just another routine Singer prevarication. He's the most prolific liar in the history of the internet gambling forums.

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Great. We don't want to know what the prolific liar is doing either so why don't you start keeping it to yourself.

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Your life revolves around reading all of KJ's posts word for word. You are obsessed with him. He's in you ignorant head bigtime.

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Robocchio, the attention whore, is having a dialogue with "anonymous coward," blackhole. How appropriate. Maybe Robocchio has changed his mind about anonymous cowards. He likes them now.

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Just more lying Robocchio bullshit. The number of people that read Gaming Today is no more than thousands, if that. I remember the rag. There weren't that many copies spread around town. The widow fired your punk ass and the new owners don't want you. Remember, you told us you were going to have some things published again. That is, when you thought you could squeeze your punk ass back in. They told you to fuck off and die. Then you let the story die here that you were going to have some more things published.

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The above are some mickeycrimm quotes to and about Rob Singer from just a 1 week period in 2019. 1 week! There is 10 more YEARS of this. But that was back when mickey told the truth. Now anybody that still speaks these truths about Rob is the bad guy and mickey will join in the attacks. Sad Crimm....just Sad! Be true to yourself.

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Some of Mickeys finest quotes above on VCT. Just think Rob gave it back twice as hard. Mickey held his own, but ultimately Rob was victorious in the decade long duel between the two combatants. Consolation prize to Mickey, he absolutely decimated all time forum AWOL lowlife loser Walter Sobchak, along with Simpboy Sloppy Soy and all the other hard left mongs over at PFA.

This is just too funny. Kew is getting castrated here, he's being destroyed on GF, and if he checks with wizard he'll find that his recent message to him BEGGING Shack to badmouth MDawg on WoV while admitting he's in some kind of cahoots with the dawg, is being laughed at like watching fags with lithps jumping to their deaths.

Gimmee more!

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... like watching fags with lithps jumping to their deaths.Gimmee more!

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What casino has that as an attraction?

It's not quite as entertaining as watching a guy get mauled by a tiger but hey, any port in a storm.