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So Redietz had a thread awhile back aimed directly at me titled "something something sports betting 101".
He believes one can only handicap to win at sports betting. Well most everyone else disagrees. I found this somewhat interesting and thought that Redietz would benefit the most from it.
https://analytics.bet/articles/how-winners-win-a-framework-for-breaking-down-expected-value/
And how high did these guys place in the Poughkeepsie Gazette's 31st Regional Wiseguys Invitational NFL Handicapping Contest?
This is actually a complete misrepresentation of my position, which is why account paraphrased rather than finding a direct quote from me.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
As I have said on this forum multiple times, the only handicapper I know who I believe won every year was Larry Fletcher, AKA Southern Comfort, who primarily used arbitrage and middles shooting across most sports to make half of his profits. Fletcher had programs red alerting him to arbitrage opportunities before most people had internet.
The problems with "taking advantage of soft numbers" and middles shooting is to make any money, you have to have well into five digits spread across a dozen or more shops, meaning an outlay of half a million dollars or more. The other problem is that taking advantage of allegedly "soft numbers" usually gets you into the kind of bind that people who bet "soft numbers" would have found themselves in this NFL playoff season. The numbers moves are mostly wrong and you get killed.
The other element to this that requires expertise is anticipating where numbers will move. That requires much, much more than following injuries and "smart money."
By the way, the article is sad. You can't define EV in a non-mathematical universe, which is what pointspreads are. Spreads aren't coin flips, boys, or haven't you figured that out? Jesus, account, you're better than this.
Let me give you boys a hint. Whatever most folks prefer to believe regarding any aspect of gambling is probably wrong. Whatever most people prefer to believe, whatever they are motivated to believe, don't believe it. Simple rule of thumb. Rarely wrong.
Recently, it was TopBet's NFL Picks Pool, where I finished first out of 1328 entries. I like to participate in these contests as it publicly demonstrates what I can do, and anonymous dudes like smurgerburger and account cannot.Quote:
Originally Posted by smurgerburger
Those who can, do. Those who can't, post anonymously and don't.
The article is sad because you can't grasp the concepts. :( Now I'm also sad.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzThis is actually a complete misrepresentation of my position, which is why account paraphrased rather than finding a direct quote from me.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
As I have said on this forum multiple times, the only handicapper I know who I believe won every year was Larry Fletcher, AKA Southern Comfort, who primarily used arbitrage and middles shooting across most sports to make half of his profits. Fletcher had programs red alerting him to arbitrage opportunities before most people had internet.
The problems with "taking advantage of soft numbers" and middles shooting is to make any money, you have to have well into five digits spread across a dozen or more shops, meaning an outlay of half a million dollars or more. The other problem is that taking advantage of allegedly "soft numbers" usually gets you into the kind of bind that people who bet "soft numbers" would have found themselves in this NFL playoff season. The numbers moves are mostly wrong and you get killed.
The other element to this that requires expertise is anticipating where numbers will move. That requires much, much more than following injuries and "smart money."
By the way, the article is sad. You can't define EV in a non-mathematical universe, which is what pointspreads are. Spreads aren't coin flips, boys, or haven't you figured that out? Jesus, account, you're better than this.
Let me give you boys a hint. Whatever most folks prefer to believe regarding any aspect of gambling is probably wrong. Whatever most people prefer to believe, whatever they are motivated to believe, don't believe it. Simple rule of thumb. Rarely wrong.
This is exactly why I posted it - hoping to help you grow in your field. To help you understand a bit more beyond your little world. Looks like I have failed. total bummer.
Regardless, to anyone else - It is definitely worth a read. I'm not suggesting it'll show you how to beat sports but it does give a framework for the various ways people beat sports and how one might look at it mathematically.
Curiously redietz, if you don't believe EV is a thing how do you bet straight sports profitably via a regular book and not some contest in Poughkeepsie?
https://youtu.be/bDLW3TRnijEQuote:
Originally Posted by redietz
AccountinQuestion, man you used to be a normal dude. Now all you do is troll. Me, Red. And oh yeah you make your political, climate change arguments. Man just NOT who you used to be.
I don't know why you guys give Redietz such a hard time. Is it because he is a winning sports better and you guys aren't? I am not either but I am damn well smart enough to know that he is. There just are no red flags.
I have to admit, I didn't know of, never even considered, the contest angle that Red goes for. If entry into these contests are free based on whatever other wagers or play you are giving the casino, that is hidden +EV, advantage play. Nothing less.
I can't know if Redietz only tells us about the contests he is doing well in and doesn't mention the ones he tanks in, but if entry is free so what? That is very different than a player like Maddog that only tells you of winning sessions and not losing. A contest entered for free that you do bad in is not costing one thin dime.
It has been a few years now, but my first half dozen or so years in Vegas, when I and my late partner were putting through a lot of VP, play, I would qualify for a lot of different contests and drawings. I won 3 different five figure drawings and contests, a truck, mortgage/rent payments for a year and a 10k weekly football contest that the entry for me was free. This kind of thing is hidden value. Hidden EV.
I just don't know what you guy's problem is. Show me something redietz has said or claimed that really does raise red flags, because I haven't seen a thing. All I see is people repeating fucktard Rob Singer's jealousy induced accusation.
AccountinQuestion, dude, you have to know that if you are on the same page as a coach belly in these discussions, you are on the wrong side.
https://files4.revize.com/johnsontn/...uent_taxes.pdfQuote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Maybe I am on the wrong side or maybe Redietz asks for it so much that he deserves it from both of us.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
I'm kidding while trying to inform. If you can't see Redietz's constant condescension and the 'oh you guys are anonymous' nonsense then that is on you. When you call him out on it the ONLY valid reason to not be anonymous is 'well maybe you want to be in a movie some day'. That in itself speaks to who Redietz is. All paraphrases but the gist was there.
You're missing a few yourself if you can't pick up on any of this. My post was no worse than Redietz starting the same style of thread aimed at me.
Fuck, look at how he doubles-down on how EV isn't a thing. Read the article. It is explain what is typically considered EV and all generalized successful sports bettors should readily understand such concepts. Yet you get more condescension from Redietz when it is clear as day to almost all successful sports bettors.
BTW what I posted was far more valuable than whatever it was Redietz typed up. I promise you.
What the fucK! What am I supposed to be looking at/for?Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyhttps://files4.revize.com/johnsontn/...uent_taxes.pdfQuote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Redeitz is condescending sometimes? Big woop! Lots of AP's and winning players are. Ever read Grosjean? How about jbjb, the almighty hole-carder who looks down on card counters?Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionMaybe I am on the wrong side or maybe Redietz asks for it so much that he deserves it from both of us.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
I'm kidding while trying to inform. If you can't see Redietz's constant condescension and the 'oh you guys are anonymous' nonsense then that is on you. When you call him out on it the ONLY valid reason to not be anonymous is 'well maybe you want to be in a movie some day'. That in itself speaks to who Redietz is. All paraphrases but the gist was there.
You're missing a few yourself if you can't pick up on any of this. My post was no worse than Redietz starting the same style of thread aimed at me.
Fuck, look at how he doubles-down on how EV isn't a thing. Read the article. It is explain what is typically considered EV and all generalized successful sports bettors should readily understand such concepts. Yet you get more condescension from Redietz when it is clear as day to almost all successful sports bettors.
BTW what I posted was far more valuable than whatever it was Redietz typed up. I promise you.
The anonymity argument, he is flat out wrong. I don't know why he doesn't seem to understand the issue with real players using their real names when there is an industry (several actually) searching for that information and attempting to identify and stop us. Alan had the same position. I understood it from Alan, I don't from redietz. But that has nothing to do with, nor in any way means he isn't a successful sports better doing what he claims. I just have seen no red flags with anything on topic. Have you. If so do tell.
I remember early on, I referred to or included redietz among the AP crowd on this very forum. He seemed to take exception to that, saying he wasn't an AP. Ok whatever. I am not sure he thinks in terms of EV, expected value or expected win, based on the math, like most traditional AP's do, but for sure the contests and approach of free entry into contests is an AP play. It is free +EV. Non AP's might use the term "free roll".
Dude, there really needs to be less of this trying to discredit someone because you don't like their attitude, or you think they are condescending, or any other non-gambling thing about them that you may not like. That is bullshit. I live it everyday on these forums. People don't like things about me that have zero to do with my blackjack and card counting AP play and spend enormous amounts of energy trying to discredit me, based on that totally unrelated thing.
Redietz can be a dick. He also can come across as weird sometimes. I get tired of hearing that he knows some sort of expert on every topic like his ex-girlfriend in high schools, brothers best friend ;), but again dude, show me one thing he has said that seriously raises red flags about his sports betting claims. And please, if what you are going to give me is some, 10 year list of people in East bubblefuck Tennessee with over a million names, please direct me to what you think is relevant and how someone disputing or not paying some local property tax proves anything.
I mean seriously, I will use a redeitz line: I don't know if he bets sports a couple months a year (football season) and works in a brothel in Pahrump 8 months as a male prostitute. ;) What I do know is I have not seen any red flags, and for me, he passes the knows what he is talking about vs just talking test. If you have some legitimate concern, hopefully something stronger than he is condescending, please share.
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Originally Posted by redietzRecently, it was TopBet's NFL Picks Pool, where I finished first out of 1328 entries. I like to participate in these contests as it publicly demonstrates what I can do, and anonymous dudes like smurgerburger and account cannot.Quote:
Originally Posted by smurgerburger
Those who can, do. Those who can't, post anonymously and don't.
But why would anyone care?
I've never tried to discredit him like you seem to think. I discredit how he seems to think other people can't beat sports etc. His view on sports-betting is narrow and outdated. I'm not even sure why he posts here since he seems to think everyone else is full of shit. You probably don't get this for various reasons I will not enumerate.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJRedeitz is condescending sometimes? Big woop! Lots of AP's and winning players are. Ever read Grosjean? How about jbjb, the almighty hole-carder who looks down on card counters?Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionMaybe I am on the wrong side or maybe Redietz asks for it so much that he deserves it from both of us.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
I'm kidding while trying to inform. If you can't see Redietz's constant condescension and the 'oh you guys are anonymous' nonsense then that is on you. When you call him out on it the ONLY valid reason to not be anonymous is 'well maybe you want to be in a movie some day'. That in itself speaks to who Redietz is. All paraphrases but the gist was there.
You're missing a few yourself if you can't pick up on any of this. My post was no worse than Redietz starting the same style of thread aimed at me.
Fuck, look at how he doubles-down on how EV isn't a thing. Read the article. It is explain what is typically considered EV and all generalized successful sports bettors should readily understand such concepts. Yet you get more condescension from Redietz when it is clear as day to almost all successful sports bettors.
BTW what I posted was far more valuable than whatever it was Redietz typed up. I promise you.
The anonymity argument, he is flat out wrong. I don't know why he doesn't seem to understand the issue with real players using their real names when there is an industry (several actually) searching for that information and attempting to identify and stop us. Alan had the same position. I understood it from Alan, I don't from redietz. But that has nothing to do with, nor in any way means he isn't a successful sports better doing what he claims. I just have seen no red flags with anything on topic. Have you. If so do tell.
I remember early on, I referred to or included redietz among the AP crowd on this very forum. He seemed to take exception to that, saying he wasn't an AP. Ok whatever. I am not sure he thinks in terms of EV, expected value or expected win, based on the math, like most traditional AP's do, but for sure the contests and approach of free entry into contests is an AP play. It is free +EV. Non AP's might use the term "free roll".
Dude, there really needs to be less of this trying to discredit someone because you don't like their attitude, or you think they are condescending, or any other non-gambling thing about them that you may not like. That is bullshit. I live it everyday on these forums. People don't like things about me that have zero to do with my blackjack and card counting AP play and spend enormous amounts of energy trying to discredit me, based on that totally unrelated thing.
Redietz can be a dick. He also can come across as weird sometimes. I get tired of hearing that he knows some sort of expert on every topic like his ex-girlfriend in high schools, brothers best friend ;), but again dude, show me one thing he has said that seriously raises red flags about his sports betting claims. And please, if what you are going to give me is some, 10 year list of people in East bubblefuck Tennessee with over a million names, please direct me to what you think is relevant and how someone disputing or not paying some local property tax proves anything.
I mean seriously, I will use a redeitz line: I don't know if he bets sports a couple months a year (football season) and works in a brothel in Pahrump 8 months as a male prostitute. ;) What I do know is I have not seen any red flags, and for me, he passes the knows what he is talking about vs just talking test. If you have some legitimate concern, hopefully something stronger than he is condescending, please share.
He can be a dick and I can be a dick. If he was a dick in the normal sense I wouldn't care.
The fact that he is behind on property taxes suggests he isn't as successful as he claims but I'd never care enough about Redietz to go through the time to dig up such things. I also don't think it necessarily indicates that much.
The short of it - he is fun to wind up - much like yourself. Thats half of what this board is. Everyone trying to wind up everyone else. It can get nasty but I will never try to take it to someone's personal life.
Thats about it.
Still waiting to hear from Redietz on how you can successfully bet sports with normal bookie wager and still not use what the rest of the successful sports betting world calls "EV". My guess is if you ask guys who have made 100K over sports-betting none of them will have the same impression of EV. Yet here we have Redietz trying to condescendingly claim otherwise because he fails to understand a fairly simple concept. You NEED EV (or whatever you wish to call it) to know if a bet is worth betting. He just doesn't get that so it sorta throws into question his prowess overall.
I still don't even see the property tax thing. In the link from smelly belly, I see lists of literally a million names and addresses coving a number of years. I took a couple minutes and looked at several years under the "R"'s. I don't see anything. I did not look for Nathan Forrest drive or wherever he lives. That would have taken too long. Like you, I don't think it means much. But now, my curiosity peeked, I would like to see what coach belly thinks is his "gottch ya" moment in this case. Could you or someone point me to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
As far as what I quoted above, I guess this is one of the thing that makes me different than most on this forum.
I don't need to try to discredit or tear anyone else down to build myself up. You CAN NOT even build yourself up by tearing others down. Show me one instance where I ever tried to discredit a real AP or winning player.
If I am challenging someone it is because their claims can't be either mathematically or because that is not the way things work.
Those that can, pay their property tax.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
It's a list of those who are delinquent on property taxes in Johnson City, Tennessee.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJWhat the fucK! What am I supposed to be looking at/for?Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyhttps://files4.revize.com/johnsontn/...uent_taxes.pdfQuote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
It's an alphabetical list. All you have to do is scroll down to Dietz, Robert to see that the "highly successful sport bettor Bob Dietz" is delinquent on the property taxes for the two-room shack he lives in.
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Originally Posted by redietzThis is actually a complete misrepresentation of my position, which is why account paraphrased rather than finding a direct quote from me.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
As I have said on this forum multiple times, the only handicapper I know who I believe won every year was Larry Fletcher, AKA Southern Comfort, who primarily used arbitrage and middles shooting across most sports to make half of his profits. Fletcher had programs red alerting him to arbitrage opportunities before most people had internet.
The problems with "taking advantage of soft numbers" and middles shooting is to make any money, you have to have well into five digits spread across a dozen or more shops, meaning an outlay of half a million dollars or more. The other problem is that taking advantage of allegedly "soft numbers" usually gets you into the kind of bind that people who bet "soft numbers" would have found themselves in this NFL playoff season. The numbers moves are mostly wrong and you get killed.
The other element to this that requires expertise is anticipating where numbers will move. That requires much, much more than following injuries and "smart money."
By the way, the article is sad. You can't define EV in a non-mathematical universe, which is what pointspreads are. Spreads aren't coin flips, boys, or haven't you figured that out? Jesus, account, you're better than this.
Let me give you boys a hint. Whatever most folks prefer to believe regarding any aspect of gambling is probably wrong. Whatever most people prefer to believe, whatever they are motivated to believe, don't believe it. Simple rule of thumb. Rarely wrong.
All I know is not you or queerJ have made what I have gambling. I would also bet I’ve made more for other people then you guys combined. This includes more then 7figs taking sports bonus money without knowing anything about betting sports. Most of you are frauds who just write bull shit long post
When I read this line in the PlusEV Analytics article, "idealistic try-hards that think they are better than everyone" I immediately thought of redietz.
BTW, PlusEV Analytics follows me on Twitter.
EV (expected value) pertains to all gambling games. Sportsbetting is no exception.
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Originally Posted by kewlJ
Winning sport bettor you say ? Literally if you didn’t make a minimum of 200k the last few years just taking the bonus money then are you really a sports Bettor ? Are you really an AP ? Red flags for me that confirm fraudulent status are posters with 1000s of short essays posted on gambling forums across the internet. Guys like you can’t win because all your time is consumed posting online.
Thank you. You know what, I didn't even know his name was Deitz. I honestly thought his last name was redeitz. I guess it is (R)obert E. Deitz which makes redeitz? I guess that is on me. So he owes $500 in property tax. This proves what?Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmIt's a list of those who are delinquent on property taxes in Johnson City, Tennessee.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJWhat the fucK! What am I supposed to be looking at/for?Quote:
Originally Posted by coach belly
All you had to do was scroll down to Dietz, Robert to see that the "highly successful sport bettor Bob Dietz" is delinquent on the property taxes for the two-room shack he lives in.
And 2 room shack? I looked at zillow and truia and don't see number of bedrooms but there are 2 bathrooms alone, so according to mickey this is a house with 2 bathrooms and no other rooms? No kitchen, no bedrooms, no living room.
This 2 room shack comment is a very typical troll move. Something Singer would and does do. Why would you stoop to this level mickey crimm? Sad, just sad.
Search for "dietz". It is a text pdf so this is possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJI still don't even see the property tax thing. In the link from smelly belly, I see lists of literally a million names and addresses coving a number of years. I took a couple minutes and looked at several years under the "R"'s. I don't see anything. I did not look for Nathan Forrest drive or wherever he lives. That would have taken too long. Like you, I don't think it means much. But now, my curiosity peeked, I would like to see what coach belly thinks is his "gottch ya" moment in this case. Could you or someone point me to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
As far as what I quoted above, I guess this is one of the thing that makes me different than most on this forum.
I don't need to try to discredit or tear anyone else down to build myself up. You CAN NOT even build yourself up by tearing others down. Show me one instance where I ever tried to discredit a real AP or winning player.
If I am challenging someone it is because their claims can't be either mathematically or because that is not the way things work.
You try and tear down Rob Singer all the time. If you didn't do that, maybe he wouldn't be such a dick.
Actually, I shouldn't feel sorry for redietz as this is what you get for not being anonymous.
Then you really don't understand as much about advantage play and the different aspects as you claim/think. I know AP's that play less than 30 days a year. Even more that play less than 60 days a year. 6-12 trips to different locations consisting of anywhere from 3-4 days to a week. And that is it. That leaves a hell of a lot of time for whatever else one wants to do, whether it be post on a forum or whatever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seedvalue
I myself used to play 300ish days a year. Was your typical grinder. In the last year + have completely changed to where I now play less than 100 days, mostly weekends and holidays.
But YOU apparently know it all.
Smartest thing you've ever said. Luckily this site is dead enough it can't take up too much of anyone's time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seedvalue
I take pride in making a short simple thread and having it blow up. Any child thread is a bonus in my book. Bringing in the great Singer or Mdawg into the ring? ..
Thats strong.
If Dan Druff was monetizing this site I would demand a piece.
yes, I see it now. Thank you. Still don't know exactly what that proves?Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
Come on man, be serious. Singer was a dick and a troll, for decades before I ever even heard of or encountered him. Get real.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
Agreed. Look, I don't know how it is for sports betters as far heat and casinos wanting to stop them. In theory, sports betters aren't playing against the casino, but kind of against other sports betters, similar to poker and horseracing, so maybe there isn't that same fight and battles by/with the casino industry that other AP's particularly table players fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
But just this information that is known about redietz because he uses his real name, would have been very problematic for a table game blackjack AP. They would have zoomed in on the car in the driveway of some of the real estate sites and pulled the license plate, providing even more information, which would lead to a picture. Plus the places that use license plate scanners would have a car make, model and license plate number for their database.
Players that doesn't fight these battles don't see to even understand the war we fight daily.
Amen to that brother. Amen to that.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Here's what I do know. We will call it Red Flag 101.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seedvalue
When a poster say the things in this post like "I make more than you" or "I make 7 figures" or " my dick is bigger than yours". I immediately dismiss this person as a very insecure fucktard. And that is before we even get to the math. :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by kewlJHere's what I do know. We will call it Red Flag 101.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seedvalue
When a poster say the things in this post like "I make more than you" or "I make 7 figures" or " my dick is bigger than yours". I immediately dismiss this person as a very insecure fucktard. And that is before we even get to the math. :rolleyes:
Let’s get to the math loser . A 12 inch ruler is easy to use. Lay my fat cock on one and Measure it easy .
Math lesson two let’s say each account in a particular state was worth approximately 17k in bonus signups. I’m not talking EV I’m talking literally betting both sides on two different accounts to guarantee a win. How hard do you think it is for someone who regularly runs 20 to 30 cards at one time to clear a million with their contacts ? Easy as 1 2 3 Gunplay
Some of us actually do real shit in the casinos others like you and red Just post online about what you think is possible or whatever.
There’s nothing you post that remotely makes anyone think you are real. Just because you plagiarize everything you have read online as your own doesn’t make it true. You post way to much do actually have time to make money in casinos.
Now you want everyone to believe your gay brother is posting on your accounts lol. What a freak
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Originally Posted by SeedvalueQuote:
Originally Posted by kewlJHere's what I do know. We will call it Red Flag 101.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seedvalue
When a poster say the things in this post like "I make more than you" or "I make 7 figures" or " my dick is bigger than yours". I immediately dismiss this person as a very insecure fucktard. And that is before we even get to the math. :rolleyes:
Let’s get to the math loser . A 12 inch ruler is easy to use. Lay my fat cock on one and Measure it easy .
Math lesson two let’s say each account in a particular state was worth approximately 17k in bonus signups. I’m not talking EV I’m talking literally betting both sides on two different accounts to guarantee a win. How hard do you think it is for someone who regularly runs 20 to 30 cards at one time to clear a million with their contacts ? Easy as 1 2 3 Gunplay
Some of us actually do real shit in the casinos others like you and red Just post online about what you think is possible or whatever.
There’s nothing you post that remotely makes anyone think you are real. Just because you plagiarize everything you have read online as your own doesn’t make it true. You post way to much do actually have time to make money in casinos.
Now you want everyone to believe your gay brother is posting on your accounts lol. What a freak
The reason you can’t believe it is because you don’t even have 5 friends. You bring no value to others is it’s impossible to understand. So you make up shit like counting 2 tables and running a play you read about online as your own lol. You have the problem not me. Gay men always have these problems it’s well documented science.
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Originally Posted by kewlJ
yes, I see it now. Thank you. Still don't know exactly what that proves?
Come on man, be serious. Singer was a dick and a troll, for decades before I ever even heard of or encountered him. Get real.
Agreed. Look, I don't know how it is for sports betters as far heat and casinos wanting to stop them. In theory, sports betters aren't playing against the casino, but kind of against other sports betters, similar to poker and horseracing, so maybe there isn't that same fight and battles by/with the casino industry that other AP's particularly table players fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
But just this information that is known about redietz because he uses his real name, would have been very problematic for a table game blackjack AP. They would have zoomed in on the car in the driveway of some of the real estate sites and pulled the license plate, providing even more information, which would lead to a picture. Plus the places that use license plate scanners would have a car make, model and license plate number for their database.
Players that doesn't fight these battles don't see to even understand the war we fight daily.
I understand it because I live it. You read about it and talk about it with theory. You never been part of a multi state casino investigation. You never seen shit. All you do is just blab your cum stain lips online. At least WON is a real player and lives the life.
You on the other are a complete fucking made up fraud
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Originally Posted by accountinquestionAmen to that brother. Amen to that.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
What you know about it ? Nothing so now you are a fraud ? Crazy to fraud in the blink
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Originally Posted by kewlJThen you really don't understand as much about advantage play and the different aspects as you claim/think. I know AP's that play less than 30 days a year. Even more that play less than 60 days a year. 6-12 trips to different locations consisting of anywhere from 3-4 days to a week. And that is it. That leaves a hell of a lot of time for whatever else one wants to do, whether it be post on a forum or whatever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seedvalue
I myself used to play 300ish days a year. Was your typical grinder. In the last year + have completely changed to where I now play less than 100 days, mostly weekends and holidays.
But YOU apparently know it all.
No one knows it all gunz but I know enough to absolutely say you are a fraud.
If you’re not putting in max time like 30 to 50 hours a week doing what you claim you do then you are nothing but a recreational gambler. It’s impossible to make money in the long term as a card counter without putting in massive hours unless your lucky. It’s luck for must of you anyway
It’s no different then poker. You must play full time hours to realize your edge or play 1000s of hands week online.
The edges playing blackjack are way to small to make significant money playing if you Just play part time. This is why half the guest on gambling with an edge are frauds. Most of them play part time and have other jobs. Real players who actually make significant money mid 6 figures to 7 figures year after year are not talking. They are not selling shit to others they actually are making the money gambling.
Many run teams as they are well known by casinos. They don’t sell picks or plays or start subscription based websites. They don’t chase clout online for fame and attention. They just win week after week.
I don’t believe your lies. You’re a joke attention seeking gay man who has his wires crossed
About trolling? Quite a bit actually. This site is basically my recent portfolio if you disagree.Quote:
Originally Posted by SeedvalueQuote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionAmen to that brother. Amen to that.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
What you know about it ? Nothing so now you are a fraud ? Crazy to fraud in the blink
Ozzy won't give me the respect I deserve tho so I keep playing the game.
Grinding, grinding.
What you know about the game?
This post proves, you don't know shit about anything. You certainly don't know anything about me. And as evident by your last line and many other comments you have made, you are just another homophobic hater. You people need to get a life. There are gay people in the world....get over it.Quote:
Originally Posted by SeedvalueQuote:
Originally Posted by kewlJThen you really don't understand as much about advantage play and the different aspects as you claim/think. I know AP's that play less than 30 days a year. Even more that play less than 60 days a year. 6-12 trips to different locations consisting of anywhere from 3-4 days to a week. And that is it. That leaves a hell of a lot of time for whatever else one wants to do, whether it be post on a forum or whatever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seedvalue
I myself used to play 300ish days a year. Was your typical grinder. In the last year + have completely changed to where I now play less than 100 days, mostly weekends and holidays.
But YOU apparently know it all.
No one knows it all gunz but I know enough to absolutely say you are a fraud.
If you’re not putting in max time like 30 to 50 hours a week doing what you claim you do then you are nothing but a recreational gambler. It’s impossible to make money in the long term as a card counter without putting in massive hours unless your lucky. It’s luck for must of you anyway
It’s no different then poker. You must play full time hours to realize your edge or play 1000s of hands week online.
The edges playing blackjack are way to small to make significant money playing if you Just play part time. This is why half the guest on gambling with an edge are frauds. Most of them play part time and have other jobs. Real players who actually make significant money mid 6 figures to 7 figures year after year are not talking. They are not selling shit to others they actually are making the money gambling.
Many run teams as they are well known by casinos. They don’t sell picks or plays or start subscription based websites. They don’t chase clout online for fame and attention. They just win week after week.
I don’t believe your lies. You’re a joke attention seeking gay man who has his wires crossed
He has posted his real name (and address) many times...you don't read his posts?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
He signed his real name in a thread that he started,
and it was repeated 30 times in the thread,
including in a post that you replied to just 11 days ago.
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Originally Posted by redietz
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Originally Posted by kewlJThis post proves, you don't know shit about anything. You certainly don't know anything about me. And as evident by your last line and many other comments you have made, you are just another homophobic hater. You people need to get a life. There are gay people in the world....get over it.Quote:
Originally Posted by SeedvalueQuote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
No one knows it all gunz but I know enough to absolutely say you are a fraud.
If you’re not putting in max time like 30 to 50 hours a week doing what you claim you do then you are nothing but a recreational gambler. It’s impossible to make money in the long term as a card counter without putting in massive hours unless your lucky. It’s luck for must of you anyway
It’s no different then poker. You must play full time hours to realize your edge or play 1000s of hands week online.
The edges playing blackjack are way to small to make significant money playing if you Just play part time. This is why half the guest on gambling with an edge are frauds. Most of them play part time and have other jobs. Real players who actually make significant money mid 6 figures to 7 figures year after year are not talking. They are not selling shit to others they actually are making the money gambling.
Many run teams as they are well known by casinos. They don’t sell picks or plays or start subscription based websites. They don’t chase clout online for fame and attention. They just win week after week.
I don’t believe your lies. You’re a joke attention seeking gay man who has his wires crossed
Listen queerJ and listen good I’m going to give you a lesson for free.
I’ve run AP teams for close to 15 years. I ran solo until I was starting to get 86ed from basically every casino I stepped foot in. There’s only so much one man can make. Ten equally intelligent men with the same work ethic will run circles around the lone wolf. Getting data based and 86ed from most stores only increased my earn, because I started implementing team play. The key is the selection process.
Outside of the core group of poker boom Leftovers who make up our original crew we pick a very specific person. We only choose people that have served in a very specific Branch of the military who achieved a certain rank. They must not have a gambling background and must be married. I’m not going to get into the specifics of why this profile is what we look for, but let’s just say trust, discipline, and the desire to serve others on the team is more important then anything else. Something a home wrecker like yourself wouldn’t understand. As you look to entrap married in the closet gay men for bribes.
Well adjusted men who have dedicated their life to a cause will work circles around gay fairytale degenerate forum posters. As well as most self taught gamblers with the degenerate gene. Discipline is much more important then talent. All the math is easy to learn. The plays are easy to teach. What’s hard is finding the right dudes to get the job done under pressure.
You talk all this shit about what you do in the casino. You don’t know anything and certainly don’t actually execute what you talk about. Nothing you Say is real it’s all bullshit lies.
Maybe look inside talk to a therapist about how neighbor guy twisted up your sexual identity as a teen. He got to you young and you never delt with the trauma. Unpack all those cock issues you have, and maybe you can achieve success. Instead of living out this fairytale forum life .
One last thing I made over a million online playing poker well before going into casino Ap. So your fucking remark about i don’t know about gambling and putting in hours with a small edge is laughable. I’ve sat and at the tables with all the super stars included Dan here and bicycleKick at limit poker on absolute. I know the small edge grind you fraud. So go fuck yourself with that long black dildo you ride on baby Bros lap
You don't know that it was I that responded to it. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by coach belly
I also don't care one way or the other what his name is, so yeah, I may have glossed over that kind of thing.
I got a list 200 deep to get in. I got bodies for days so I don’t fear any casino qeerj
Ok, so Dan Druff will vouch for you? Let's here what he has to say.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seedvalue
Look, I don't know if you are who you say in regards to 15 years of running multi-card teams. Honestly I don't know much about that. First I heard of it was Dark oz talking about that stuff at WoV, and frankly what you now say, seems like it could very well be lifted from that. We have someone in this community that has "lifted" a claim, the double up claim from other players, so it wouldn't be the first time. :rolleyes:
There are some players here, some members that seem to think you are legit, and that is good enough for me. But when you get into all this other shit, "I made a million dollars doing this", "I make more than anyone else", "I have a bigger dick that anyone", it becomes hard to take you seriously.
And when you continue with some silly vendetta against me, completely making shit up, it becomes even harder to take you seriously. You very much seem like just another homophobic hater, hating for something that has nothing to do with my blackjack claims.
So I don't know if everything you say is a lie, or what parts are and what parts aren't, but I have a starting point, because I KNOW just about everything you say about me is untrue, most of it pretty far out nonsense.
That you are now repeating phrases by Rob Singer, like "crossed wires" and praising Singer and his 330k a year aerospace career, seems pretty suspicious to me.
Actually if he still has his data base of hands he probably can verify exactly the Date and time last we played. I still have all my hands from those days stored. I also can prove it with PTR if need be. But it’sQuote:
Originally Posted by kewlJOk, so Dan Druff will vouch for you? Let's here what he has to say.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seedvalue
Look, I don't know if you are who you say in regards to 15 years of running multi-card teams. Honestly I don't know much about that. First I heard of it was Dark oz talking about that stuff at WoV, and frankly what you now say, seems like it could very well be lifted from that. We have someone in this community that has "lifted" a claim, the double up claim from other players, so it wouldn't be the first time. :rolleyes:
There are some players here, some members that seem to think you are legit, and that is good enough for me. But when you get into all this other shit, "I made a million dollars doing this", "I make more than anyone else", "I have a bigger dick that anyone", it becomes hard to take you seriously.
And when you continue with some silly vendetta against me, completely making shit up, it becomes even harder to take you seriously. You very much seem like just another homophobic hater, hating for something that has nothing to do with my blackjack claims.
So I don't know if everything you say is a lie, or what parts are and what parts aren't, but I have a starting point, because I KNOW just about everything you say about me is untrue, most of it pretty far out nonsense.
Not that serious because I know you won’t put up any significant money to bet. This again proves you are fake. We are on a gambling board and you won’t bet shit on the claims you make. I’m
Willing to bet significant sums on my claims against yours any fucking day of the week fraudj
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Originally Posted by SeedvalueActually if he still has his data base of hands he probably can verify exactly the Date and time last we played. I still have all my hands from those days stored. I also can prove it with PTR if need be. But it’sQuote:
Originally Posted by kewlJOk, so Dan Druff will vouch for you? Let's here what he has to say.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seedvalue
Look, I don't know if you are who you say in regards to 15 years of running multi-card teams. Honestly I don't know much about that. First I heard of it was Dark oz talking about that stuff at WoV, and frankly what you now say, seems like it could very well be lifted from that. We have someone in this community that has "lifted" a claim, the double up claim from other players, so it wouldn't be the first time. :rolleyes:
There are some players here, some members that seem to think you are legit, and that is good enough for me. But when you get into all this other shit, "I made a million dollars doing this", "I make more than anyone else", "I have a bigger dick that anyone", it becomes hard to take you seriously.
And when you continue with some silly vendetta against me, completely making shit up, it becomes even harder to take you seriously. You very much seem like just another homophobic hater, hating for something that has nothing to do with my blackjack claims.
So I don't know if everything you say is a lie, or what parts are and what parts aren't, but I have a starting point, because I KNOW just about everything you say about me is untrue, most of it pretty far out nonsense.
Not that serious because I know you won’t put up any significant money to bet. This again proves you are fake. We are on a gambling board and you won’t bet shit on the claims you make. I’m
Willing to bet significant sums on my claims against yours any fucking day of the week fraudj
I sent you a PM let’s bet Fraudj
Yes I know Oz he runs multi card only teams. Most of the damage he did was alone not with a crew.
He also doesn’t run table plays or other things as far as I know. We crossed paths on mail plays over the years at certain stores long before multi carding was cool.
He’s a real player not like you. As stated before so is WON but certainly not you.
To think the biggest con in the game has more credibility then you is saying something.
Fraudj the great lol
I'll answer you right here. No I am not interested in a wager with money escrowed with Dan Druff. I trust Druff. But I don't trust you. I have seen literally hundreds of these wagers proposed and not a single one occur. I think you would probably try to use such a wager, without paying to see what information, you could come up with/on me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seedvalue
I take a look to see if Druff's forum has anything going on, and big surprise--kew is still fighting with everyone and still telling the same lies about himself. And me. And mickey now too as well as seedvalue. And it's all because he just can't get his way. Nobody cares about or is buying into his agenda that he claims to be something he isn't and never has been, and nobody cares about any of his lies. He can't take it, so he posts essay after essay, all filled with fake stories, uneducated "information", silly speculation, and more envy than watching his sicko baby bro get jerked off by his degenerate and worthless mommy.
Your ranting only proves how little you know about life anywhere outside that dumpy high-rise, non-private and noisy apt. you live in with your clan, kew. We've already seen how you contradict yourself every time you claim "I don't care about how wealthy MDawg is; I only care about his gambling claims yada yada yada". Which, of course, is complete BS. Why? Because you've spent hours trying to downplay his wealth by lying about how he's supposedly "spending his family's money and his inheritance in the casinos". In other words, you just can't stand it that the guy has so much more resources than you. Poor kew--always the victim of his own failures.
Same goes with me. "Singer's net worth is the lowest there is"; "says he bought several houses with cash"; "he worked instead of being a professional VP player because that's how you get a big SS check in retirement"; and all that's on top of your lies about our Newell and the big VP jackpot I hit last year. You're jealous about everything any successful person does or has, and it's all because you're just a queer loser with no way to make anything out of your misery-laden existence.
Take this as a teachable moment from someone with a whole lifetime of life experience around the world compared to your what did you call it?--a NOTHING BURGER.
My wife & I both get a SS pymt. of around $2750/mo. each now (raises thx to Biden who caused massive inflation). My wife worked her whole life and retired at 59. I retired in 1999 at 50. We just happen to have earned similar pymts. by coincidence. Why is my SS so high when I worked many years less than her? BECAUSE MY YEARLY INCOME WAS A LOT HIGHER THAN HERS, bozo. How dense are you?
Cash in a suitcase? What an idiot. It's called "gifting" and the "cash" came from something a dopey loser like you wouldn't know anything about: 401k's, and several legal overseas accounts. And neither is applicable to anyone's net worth BECAUSE ONE IS PRIVATE AND THE OTHER IS ONLY KNOWN TO THE IRS....esp. from those silly online snoop sites that you, as a loser-in-life, spin in order to feel better. Oh, my having lived all over the world bothers you, I know. For an ever worse feeling, check with the nosey and always-trying-to-fit-in MrV. He somehow just found that I had an address in the UK in the '90's.
You've told enuf repeated lies about our having had the Newell that It's clear you finally believe we owned it---or else you wouldn't keep trying to convince yourself otherwise. On the largest VP jackpot ever hit? You want to hang your hopes of it not being real from "positivevariance's" flawed and foolishly desperate guesses (debunked "blue line and cursor" theories; the reaching for straws "looks like exercise equipment in the reflection" nonsense--the machine was put in a semi-private room, I have no idea what was in there or on the shelves. Play hi-limit VP in this manner and you'll learn that; and the immortal "the card holder is blocked off so it MUST be a home machine!", which only shows how little experience PV MUST have....casinos block those off all the time when they install the newer video box card readers on older machines, that have many more options).
I made this post to drive you crazy. I know you hate it when your phony narratives get destroyed, and I know you hate people with money. How many times have I challenged you, redietz, Druff, and anyone else who's threatened to "sue me" over their thin skin not being able to stomach my tough words, to go do it? Guess why no one ever does.... I'm always available.
I suggest you look around at all the people here and at every forum that are disgusted at your habitual lying, they don't appreciate a loser like you saying you're something you're not, and NO ONE appreciates having the sickening gay agenda being pushed in their faces.
I no return control over your useless life back to you. :)
No need to even reply.
BULL FUCKING SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
I suck at math and sports in general, but I could show someone with reasonable intelligence and dedication how to parlay (no pun intended ) their 20k into a nice bankroll without any handicapping or knowledge of sports whatsoever. Once you head down that road you start learning more and more as you go. it's amazing, all the different opportunities you will come across if you are dedicated and looking for such things.
Not everyone can become a wolf like you.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfBULL FUCKING SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
I suck at math and sports in general, but I could show someone with reasonable intelligence and dedication how to parlay (no pun intended ) their 20k into a nice bankroll without any handicapping or knowledge of sports whatsoever. Once you head down that road you start learning more and more as you go. it's amazing, all the different opportunities you will come across if you are dedicated and looking for such things.
Well, that was an exceptionally short reprieve, but, hopefully, an even shorter stint now, for me, to finish off the latest obit, however. And, just, before Groundhog Day. Ha.
Old Red's only way out of here was by shame. What happens when you try to cheat the Universal Anagram-with-Gematria Solver.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyhttps://files4.revize.com/johnsontn/...uent_taxes.pdfQuote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Earlier, when he announced that he was leaving, and, with the 4's for death, it came to
---> Here's Where the Story Ends (Tin Tin Out song).Quote:
It's shut down, Redietz, 4t post seven thous4nd, eight hundred sixty-three.
https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post153284
This time around, with the very same input line except with the numerals of his latest post,
---> Rendezvous with Destiny (TV series).Quote:
It's shut down, Redietz, 4t post seven thous4nd, eight hundred seventy-nine.
https://anagram-solver.net/It%27s%20...e?partial=true
But look what happens with also the reason included. Last time, Red didn't specify reason.
--->Quote:
It's shut down, Redietz, 4t post seven thous4nd, eight hundred seventy-nine, for t4x ev4sion.
Here's Where the Story Ends (Tin Tin Out song).
https://anagram-solver.net/It%27s%20...n?partial=true
Yes, it ended right back where it started, err, first ended with old Red. Darn funny odd, even fuckingly so, how the new end point, in terms of his latest post, with the offset numeral, returned a shorter output line than before, but, the addition of the corrected reason for his leaving brought back the very same output line from before. Even the destiny bit referred to where it ended as before.
In addition, Red's last words, followed by a few of KJ's, as fished out by Coach.
---> Shadowy Men on a Shadowy Planet.Quote:
Those who can, do. Those who can't, post anonymously and don't.
https://anagram-solver.net/Those%20w....?partial=true
---> Desert Greens of Utah.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
https://anagram-solver.net/There%20j....?partial=true
Just not enough letters to make Nevada, in the last one, and, so, the solver did the best it could.
Ain't no wolfing involved. It's like a magic trick, it seems so impossible like magic, but once you see how the trick is done, it's often times simple stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by OzzyNot everyone can become a wolf like you.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfBULL FUCKING SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
I suck at math and sports in general, but I could show someone with reasonable intelligence and dedication how to parlay (no pun intended ) their 20k into a nice bankroll without any handicapping or knowledge of sports whatsoever. Once you head down that road you start learning more and more as you go. it's amazing, all the different opportunities you will come across if you are dedicated and looking for such things.
No? You don't say?Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfAin't no wolfing involved. It's like a magic trick, it seems so impossible like magic, but once you see how the trick is done, it's often times simple stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by OzzyNot everyone can become a wolf like you.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
Too bad that the casinos don't hand out the brains like they, supposedly, according to Tablepooey, hand out the cash. Multi-billion dollar brains, but, you guys are left to the shit, let alone any of the truth. Ha.
They certainly didn't hand one (a brain that is) out to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGrimReaper
Almost all of you are fag pansies metaphorically speaking. What a bunch of retarded losers playing with their small dicks all day together.
Oh, now I see. The whole Redietz eulogy, however, as a quick series of Reaper posts, has to do with education, honor, and the like. How fitting. Yes, dear Red was big on also the Bible.
---> The Bible and Its Story, Taught By One Thousand Picture Lessons.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGrimReaper
https://anagram-solver.net/Too%20bad....?partial=true
---> International Student Identity Card.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
https://anagram-solver.net/They%20ce...0?partial=true
---> List of International Baccalaureate schools offering the Middle Years Programme.Quote:
Originally Posted by theywontpayontuesday
https://anagram-solver.net/%20%20%20...0?partial=true
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The International Baccalaureate Middle Years Programme (MYP) is an educational programme for students between the ages of 11 to 16 around the world as part of the International Baccalaureate (IB) continuum. Middle Year Programme is intended to prepare students for the two-year IB Diploma Programme.
It is used by 1,358 schools in 108 countries. It has been available since 1994. It was updated in 2014 and called MYP:New chapter.
In the Middle Year Programme students are required to receive instruction in all eight subject groups; Language Acquisition, Language and Literature, Individuals and Societies, Sciences, Mathematics, Arts, Physical and Health Education, and Design.
Oh, now I see that there are only four schools in Ontario, Canada with the IB program. And, that 1,358 = 14*97 = (2 X 7)*(10*9 + 6 + 1) ---> 2/7, 1961, with 108 = half of 6*6*6 ---> 666. Ha.
Gee, for someone like me (without a brain), also that 1,775 looks interesting. 1,775 = 5*5*71. But, what the heck can it mean? Hey, (1775 + 1) is 5115 in base 7. And, (1775 + 1) = 1776 = 4*444. Moving along, 1776 the difference of two fourth powers. Anyone here offhand know which two? That's a good one, I think.Quote:
Cameron Heights Collegiate Institute is a public secondary school in Kitchener, Ontario, run by the Waterloo Region District School Board. It is part of the International Baccalaureate program. The school is located at 301 Charles St. E. As of the 2019–2020 school year, the school has 1,775 students.
Double P.S.S. It had to be at 301 Charles St. E., given the title of this thread.
Yes no offense to you what I said. A manwhore should know, you don't play tummy sticks unless they're willing buyers with the cash and you don't let them tease you with maybes. Upgrayedd going to get his money.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
I think that some of you all cats should pass a hats, take up the collections and send the re-dietz some cake so the boy can pay his tax. I hear tell that they got some real hard case down there in the Pulaski TN, hey hey.
Anytime, anyone references Upgrayedd, I get a good laugh.
Two D's for a Double Dose of Pimping!
Normally I'd feel sorry for someone in Redietz's spot with the property tax situation. However he's SOO unabashedly proud of using his real personality I can't sit back and chuckle. Poor feller.
Still waiting to hear how you can determine whether a non-gimmick sports bet is a good bet or not without the concept of EV as described in the paper I posted.
Bullshit! You don't even know the tax situation, nor do I. It could be any number of things. Maybe his property taxes were recently re-assessed, and he is disputing that and didn't want to pay until resolved. I have no idea, but do you seriously think he doesn't have $500 to pay his property tax?Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
You set out to troll with this thread, because you find him condescending. You fucking admitted it. Apparently you guys won't be happy until this is only a forum with people trolling and hating on each other. and you have driven everyone else away.
Bullshit what? huh? I have no idea of his exact situation but the fact is he is on that list and it is out there because he was insistent on giving his real name. That is a situation. It'd never happened had he not used his real name. Now that'll be the go to insult for many guys around here. I try to be more creative though.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJBullshit! You don't even know the tax situation, nor do I. He could be any number of things. Maybe his property taxes were recently re-assessed, and he is disputing that and don't want to pay until resolved. I have no idea, but do you seriously think he doesn't have $500 to pay his property tax?Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
You set out to troll with this thread, because you find him condescending. You fucking admitted it. Apparently you guys won't be happy until this is only a forum with people trolling and hating on each other. and you have driven everyone else away.
Again - on these forums I will never move anything into someone's real life. I hope others feel the same way. The only one who seems to not really agree with this is Seedvalue who apparently read a large amount of my previous postings thinking I'd dox myself. The thing is, I understand this game so very unlikely I screw up. Ozzy understands it better but he is just a judge. He doesn't play the game. Anyway, I'm halfway kidding but this is why you don't give your name to anyone you don't reasonably trust.
And about chasing everyone else away. Pretty sure this forum has been like this for years now. If someone wants to post something about APing they'll do it. There are many other places if that is what you're looking for. If you want freespeech amongst childish men whose average age is north of 40, then this is your place. The real question is why you insist on posting here with all your proclamations.
Lay me 7 extra points on every game next season. We make all the bets before the season starts so there is no handicapping. If you take the proposition I will have pretty some good positive EV and you will have very bad negative EV. Would you like to deny that?Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzThis is actually a complete misrepresentation of my position, which is why account paraphrased rather than finding a direct quote from me.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
As I have said on this forum multiple times, the only handicapper I know who I believe won every year was Larry Fletcher, AKA Southern Comfort, who primarily used arbitrage and middles shooting across most sports to make half of his profits. Fletcher had programs red alerting him to arbitrage opportunities before most people had internet.
The problems with "taking advantage of soft numbers" and middles shooting is to make any money, you have to have well into five digits spread across a dozen or more shops, meaning an outlay of half a million dollars or more. The other problem is that taking advantage of allegedly "soft numbers" usually gets you into the kind of bind that people who bet "soft numbers" would have found themselves in this NFL playoff season. The numbers moves are mostly wrong and you get killed.
The other element to this that requires expertise is anticipating where numbers will move. That requires much, much more than following injuries and "smart money."
By the way, the article is sad. You can't define EV in a non-mathematical universe, which is what pointspreads are. Spreads aren't coin flips, boys, or haven't you figured that out? Jesus, account, you're better than this.
Let me give you boys a hint. Whatever most folks prefer to believe regarding any aspect of gambling is probably wrong. Whatever most people prefer to believe, whatever they are motivated to believe, don't believe it. Simple rule of thumb. Rarely wrong.
If I didn't know better I'd swear I was arguing with Evenbob (the math don't matter) over roulette. I can't believe redietz can't grasp the simple concept of expected value.
"Point spreads aren't mathematical." Bob Dietz
A dumber statement has never been written in the gambling forums.
---> (One) More Today Than Yesterday: The Greatest Hits Tour.Quote:
Originally Posted by soxfan
https://anagram-solver.net/I%20hear%...0?partial=true
This is a forum of gamblers. So, what do you expect?
I liked Red's non-gambling related stuff, but it quickly went downhill over the last year or so. He seemed to avoid me, so, I let it at that.
In general, the pattern of thus posters, like Crimm, with some pedigree, ended up at the end of a lowly genealogical branch. KJ's pedigree? At least he will be out of thus forums, soon enough. Probably outlive most of us "bitter old men", so, left to the nostalgia to add to his usual repertoire on the new forums, whichever. Stuff rotated ad nauseam, as he claims to rotate through the local casinos daily.
One last thing, [(1*7)^4 - (5*1)^4] = (1775 + 1) = 1776. Sort of memorable with, say, the Declaration of Independence date, of July 4 = 2^2. Not sure how 1721/1961 fits into that. (1961 + 1776) = 3737; (1961 ÷ 1776) = (1.104 + 0.00016666...) ---> 411, and 166.
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166 ---------> 616. The 666-stuff came up a lot in my translations of Red's posts. I guess that he's 65 = (66 - 1) ---> 661.
The more Ditz opens his mouth the more he proves he's just a quack with no real gambling skills.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfBULL FUCKING SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
I suck at math and sports in general, but I could show someone with reasonable intelligence and dedication how to parlay (no pun intended ) their 20k into a nice bankroll without any handicapping or knowledge of sports whatsoever. Once you head down that road you start learning more and more as you go. it's amazing, all the different opportunities you will come across if you are dedicated and looking for such things.
Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJI'll answer you right here. No I am not interested in a wager with money escrowed with Dan Druff. I trust Druff. But I don't trust you. I have seen literally hundreds of these wagers proposed and not a single one occur. I think you would probably try to use such a wager, without paying to see what information, you could come up with/on me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seedvalue
Of course you wouldn’t bet because you don’t have the money to put up. I’ve made hundreds of similar escrow wagers and never stiffed if I lost. Once again you are insinuating I’m literally a con or fraud. This is my point about you. You talk all this shit about someone but won’t back it up with a bet. If I escrowed the money with Dan then literally you would get paid if I lost idiot.
You really need those cum stained lips slapped off your face. Me not pay if i lost lol what a fucking loser you are.
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Originally Posted by kewlJI'll answer you right here. No I am not interested in a wager with money escrowed with Dan Druff. I trust Druff. But I don't trust you. I have seen literally hundreds of these wagers proposed and not a single one occur. I think you would probably try to use such a wager, without paying to see what information, you could come up with/on me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seedvalue
Of course you wouldn’t bet because you don’t have the money to put up. I’ve made hundreds of similar escrow wagers and never stiffed if I lost. Once again you are insinuating I’m literally a con or fraud. This is my point about you. You talk all this shit about someone but won’t back it up with a bet. If I escrowed the money with Dan then literally you would get paid if I lost idiot.
You really need those cum stained lips slapped off your face. Me not pay if i lost lol what a fucking loser you are.[/QUOTE
By the way I literally know everything about you idiot.
You know nothing about me. You have proven that with all your silly lies for months now. No doubt you seem to be obsessed with me, but don't know shit!Quote:
Originally Posted by Seedvalue
Maxpen already posted why just a few days ago and wasn't due to that lie you made up about him being locked up. That was just another stupid lie from you.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJYou know nothing about me. You have proven that with all your silly lies for months now. No doubt you seem to be obsessed with me, but don't know shit!Quote:
Originally Posted by Seedvalue
Other than that, whether MaxPen posts here or decides it not worth it to do so, is his business. Why would I post his business?
You are just another fucking retard.
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Originally Posted by kewlJMaxpen already posted why just a few days ago and wasn't due to that lie you made up about him being locked up. That was just another stupid lie from you.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJYou know nothing about me. You have proven that with all your silly lies for months now. No doubt you seem to be obsessed with me, but don't know shit!Quote:
Originally Posted by Seedvalue
Other than that, whether MaxPen posts here or decides it not worth it to do so, is his business. Why would I post his business?
You are just another fucking retard.
I said he was locked up ? When ?
Is baby bro ready to get on a plane and meet me ? I will send the car. I love to fight it’s fun to me.
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Originally Posted by kewlJMaxpen already posted why just a few days ago and wasn't due to that lie you made up about him being locked up. That was just another stupid lie from you.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJYou know nothing about me. You have proven that with all your silly lies for months now. No doubt you seem to be obsessed with me, but don't know shit!Quote:
Originally Posted by Seedvalue
Other than that, whether MaxPen posts here or decides it not worth it to do so, is his business. Why would I post his business?
You are just another fucking retard.
Max pen can suck my dick also. Anyone who believes in you can get fucked. Literally they are as fake ad you. Anyone who has your back after this decade long fantasy troll log is a complete fucking idiot
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Originally Posted by kewlJYou know nothing about me. You have proven that with all your silly lies for months now. No doubt you seem to be obsessed with me, but don't know shit!Quote:
Originally Posted by Seedvalue
All but I do puppet j.
You’re like a ball of yarn that a cat plays with.
I feel sad for your mom actually. What a disappointment you must be.
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Originally Posted by Seedvalue
What an idiot! You can't even remember what you posted a week ago?Quote:
Originally Posted by SeedvalueHe’s locked upQuote:
Originally Posted by kewlJNo he didn't. He enjoyed fighting with you, just as you do fighting with him, both saying things you knew were not true.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Just fuck off idiot.
I responded to him told him I would fuck him in front of your brother and mom.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
What an idiot! You can't even remember what you posted a week ago?Quote:
Originally Posted by SeedvalueHe’s locked upQuote:
Originally Posted by kewlJNo he didn't. He enjoyed fighting with you, just as you do fighting with him, both saying things you knew were not true.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Just fuck off idiot.
He’s locked up definitely
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Originally Posted by kewlJ
What an idiot! You can't even remember what you posted a week ago?Quote:
Originally Posted by SeedvalueHe’s locked upQuote:
Originally Posted by kewlJNo he didn't. He enjoyed fighting with you, just as you do fighting with him, both saying things you knew were not true.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Just fuck off idiot.
I be willing to do time to fuck you up if you talked that shit to me in real life
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Originally Posted by kewlJ
What an idiot! You can't even remember what you posted a week ago?Quote:
Originally Posted by SeedvalueHe’s locked upQuote:
Originally Posted by kewlJNo he didn't. He enjoyed fighting with you, just as you do fighting with him, both saying things you knew were not true.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Just fuck off idiot.
I may send in the working girls to handle baby bro. He’s so easily manipulated. Wires crossed like you. Bad genetics
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Originally Posted by kewlJ
What an idiot! You can't even remember what you posted a week ago?Quote:
Originally Posted by SeedvalueHe’s locked upQuote:
Originally Posted by kewlJNo he didn't. He enjoyed fighting with you, just as you do fighting with him, both saying things you knew were not true.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Just fuck off idiot.
Why don’t you come handle it ? You want to meet rob to fight meet someone willing. Coach belly wanted to meet you declined lol
Not exactly, Seed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seedvalue
tewlj was coming East, and he challenged me to meet in AC, where he would kick my ass.
We agreed to a time and place, and he never showed up.
As it turned out, he had tickets to the Eagles game that day, and never intended to meet.
tewlj is a fraud in all aspects, a dishonest pathological liar, incapable of posting truthfully.
I didn't realize that when I agreed to meet him.
Now I know what telecommunications harassment is.