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*** DRUFF'S NOTE ***
This thread was spun off from the one about Ed Sheeran, which got way off the rails, starting with the below post. This then led to the interesting revelation by Tasha that she's an asexual virgin.
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In other entertainment news, I read that Kid Rock had to cancel some shows as half the band members contracted covid while they played at Sturgis; once again Sturgis was a "superstpreader."
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...-b1910918.html
Apparently Tasha is a superspeader.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
https://i.imgur.com/Z0mYgdH.jpegQuote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
V, when will it sink in that your warped Portland libtard views are worthless to true Americans? (same with your poor attempts at dealing with your declining years' monotony with those weak interjections in nearly every thread).
Fuck off, Robert.
My post was an appropriate counterpoint to Dan's original post.
What, you ran out of kids to chase off your lawn?
Now you need to pick on guys who are wiser and stronger than you?
Dangerous game you're playing, boyo...
What the hell, Axelwolf?:/Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfApparently Tasha is a superspeader.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
Not covid, I wouldn't dare accuse you of that... I meant your legs.Quote:
Originally Posted by TashaWhat the hell, Axelwolf?:/Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfApparently Tasha is a superspeader.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
Axel, I'm a virgin, so your post makes no sense at all. :/Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfNot covid, I wouldn't dare accuse you of that... I meant your legs.Quote:
Originally Posted by TashaWhat the hell, Axelwolf?:/Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
Is your hymen still intact?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tasha
If so auction yourself off here to be defoliated by the highest bidder.
Heck, Robert said he won $1.5M on one VP pull: can you imagine him bidding $1.5M and then popping your cherry via his nasty, presumably wart and puss-covered anaconda?
Could be a life changing event.
I had no idea Tasha was a virgin. That's the most eye popping fact in this entire thread.
Hardly.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterVIs your hymen still intact?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tasha
If so auction yourself off here to be defoliated by the highest bidder.
Could be a life changing event.
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Of course, in New York (and many states) teens have a right to confidential care so I cannot tell the mother anything unless the teen gives me permission to do so,” Roye writes. “But even if I am allowed to talk to the parent frankly, I often can’t give the yes-no answer they want. It is not so easy to tell whether a girl is a virgin, because hymens are so varied. If there is not much of a hymen I have no way of knowing what happened to it. Was it a boyfriend or a bicycle? Or, perhaps, this girl did not have much tissue there to begin with.
https://www.ourbodiesourselves.org/b...ing-the-myths/
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Your hymen is a piece of tissue covering or surrounding part of your vaginal opening. It's formed during development and present during birth. It thins over time and tears. Some people will feel pain or bleed when their hymen breaks, but most will not notice.
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/body/22718-hymen
Yep, I'm a stone's throw away from being the 40 year old virgin like Steve Carrell's character was! :D ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Just wondering, Tasha: why are you still a virgin?
WTF are you waiting for?
At your age the "fruit" no longer ripens on the vine: it "rots."
Just sayin;.
Otherwise, "Get ye to a nunnery."
I’m sure there are laws against sex with retards not capable of giving consent. And NO, this isn’t doxxing since she provided this picture to the Wizard to prove she was real.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
I don't recall seeing this pic before at WoV.
When was it posted, any link to it?
Due diligence, transparency and all ...
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Originally Posted by MisterV
I'm actually asexual, where I'm not interested in having sex...
So then it was just a blowjob. congrats.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Did they adopt her? If so, I think she can sue once the movie comes out. Nathan, did they touch your special area? Get you some white people money.Quote:
Originally Posted by The BozI’m sure there are laws against sex with retards not capable of giving consent. And NO, this isn’t doxxing since she provided this picture to the Wizard to prove she was real.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
I think you mean AnelsexualQuote:
Originally Posted by TashaQuote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
I'm actually asexual, where I'm not interested in having sex...
You’re a big mean jerk Boz.Quote:
Originally Posted by The BozI’m sure there are laws against sex with retards not capable of giving consent. And NO, this isn’t doxxing since she provided this picture to the Wizard to prove she was real.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
I admit I had to look that picture Boz posted up, in order to figure out what it really was.
Turned out it's woman who died at 33 from COVID in 2020.
Not sure what April's disability was, but it must have been more than just mental, as 33-year-olds almost never died from COVID, even when COVID in its more dangerous 2020-21 incarnations.Quote:
April Dunn, 33, center, was an outspoken disability rights advocate in Louisiana state government. Denied a high school diploma and shut out of jobs because of her disabilities, she helped rewrite state law to make sure people like her had equal access to education and employment.
Most of the under-40 crowd dying of COVID had existing major health issues.
Anyway, unless Tasha is posting from the grave, I think we can safely say that's not her.
Tasha, I do wish you told us you were asexual on PFA Radio during our 10th Anniversary show in 2022, where you were our first guess. One of the co-hosts was trying to hook you up with PFA members, and you could have just told us we were wasting our time.
Asexuality in humans is a real thing. I know several asexuals in real life -- people who are not gay, but just have no sexual/romantic attraction to anyone.
I have always wondered if more males or more females are asexual. I think it's more common in males, believe it or not, despite males in general having a much higher sex drive than females.
In fact, there has been a societal concern that the current young generation of males has retreated to video games and doesn't seem to be pursuing sex nearly as much as prior generations. In 1989, the percentage of men 18-to-30 who didn't have sex in a year's time was just 7%. In 2019, it was something like 30%.
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Originally Posted by Dan Druff
In my defense, I sounded uncomfortable with the flirting that seemed to be going on towards me on that PFA Radio Interview. Other Posters were like,"Tasha seemed uncomfortable when they seemed to be flirting with her."
#MeeToo. Get you some of that Jew money.Quote:
Originally Posted by TashaQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
In my defense, I sounded uncomfortable with the flirting that seemed to be going on towards me on that PFA Radio Interview. Other Posters were like,"Tasha seemed uncomfortable when they seemed to be flirting with her."
I thought Hymen was Druff’s cousin?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gottlob1
Like I figured: a nasty, cheap shot from The Boz; a falsehood, a lie, a wholly unwelcome and uncalled for prevarication.
Have you no shame?
Thanks for clarifying that he lied, Dan.
memo to The Boz: If you step up your game a bit you might have a future in national politics.
Certainly, Druff, Druff is the weathered "hymen" of the forum, which may be viewed more as a vagina than a urinal. Besides, and as certainly, yes-man gamblers don't translate to yes-girls. More like a "goodbyeman" when it comes to the Druff, Druff, and the other Burning Manboys on the internet.Quote:
Originally Posted by DGenBen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRgWvvkSvfk
Sorry that offend you V, is this better? Though I would believe the female in the picture never begged for loans via PM on Dan’s other forum, unlike TashaQuote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
Unfortunately I’m not good enough with photoshop to cover her titties with a Walgreens smock.
Feel free to confirm this Druff.
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Bozo is the Mcap on steroids. Not a "happy camper". Another Mr. Idontposthereanymore. Ha.
The Boz does seem to have issues with Tasha.
Poor Tasha: the only girl in a hot tub with some misogynistic racists.
No wonder the blacks want reparations: will the undeserved hatred never end?
*note to self: continue to fight for the underdog*
She's mentioned that she is a virgin before, as much as almost three years ago. But about her being asexual, that's a new one.
My buddy recently told me he is asexual.
Twice divorced, he blew his savings and inheritance at the roulette tables and put on a lot of weight and has been depressed ever since.
Not gay, but has zero interest in meeting / dating women.
Too bad: life is easier with a good partner.
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Originally Posted by MisterV
I don't get into other than what's posted. Tasha made no per se statement about asexuality. Probably has no clue, anyway. And, what makes life easier is all bullshit. I recently heard that all you have to do to take over a society is get everyone to watch television. Simple as that. Nothing on tv is for your benefit. It's not hard to figure out, either, if parse out each bit, beyond the silliness of it all.
https://youtu.be/A_OboeBSMdk
I have Boz on ignore. He and I used to be cool until I made that one time cussing rant about Beachbumbabs and then he turned on me badly. I was like,"Boz, I thought we were cool. Why are you turning on me?" He himself admitted he was cool with me, but turned on me because I insulted his friend.
Was he always asexual, or just became that way recently? How old is he?Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
Some people have always been asexual, but got married anyway due to either social pressure or the desire to have children or a family structure.
Some people do lose their sex drive when they age. For women it can start as early as late 30s, for men sometimes it happens in the early 50s. Some dudes never lose their sex drive, and desire it up until the day they die in their 80s or whatever.
However, being asexual isn't even completely about sex. True asexuals have no desire for romantic love either. These are two different things. Some people don't like sex but have the desire for romantic/emotional love. This is often true of elderly women. Actual asexuals do not want any sex or any kind of romantic relationship. That's why there's now terms called "heteroromantic" and "homoromantic", where you can want romance with people but also be considered asexual. But I more consider that just having zero sex drive, which is different than being asexual.
I am in my early 50s and have not had any noticeable decline to my sex drive.
I've known him for a decade or more and he's always been this way since I've known him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
He's in his late sixties.
In his youth, per his report, he chased a \lot of tail.
He has clinical depression.
Then it's probably a result of the depression. He might have something called "anhedonia", which is an offshoot of depression where you lack the ability to feel any kind of positive emotions. Sometimes this completely robs you of a sex drive, as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterVI've known him for a decade or more and he's always been this way since I've known him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
He's in his late sixties.
In his youth, per his report, he chased a \lot of tail.
He has clinical depression.
I had anhedonia for about 6 weeks in 2018. It was a weird and extremely unpleasant thing to go through. This was combined with crippling high anxiety and depression at the same time, which was all from a physical cause.
The anhedonia robbed me of the ability to enjoy food (I could tell it tasted good but got no pleasure from it), music (no appeal), sports (I didn't care if my favorite teams won or lost), poker (no pleasure in winning), comedy (I found nothing funny), or anything else which could produce a positive feeling or emotion. Perhaps most disturbing, I could not feel the emotion of love anymore, not even for my own family. I knew I loved them, but I could not feel the warm emotion associated with it. However, I had a full range of negative emotions.
It finally broke when I was watching a YouTube show I enjoyed at the time, while walking my dog late at night. The host said something funny, and I laughed. Then the co-host said something funny about a minute later, and I laughed again. While seemingly minor, this was one of the best moments of my life, as this was a sign things were starting to "crack" and I was starting to return to normal. I had almost resigned myself to believing I would be stuck that way forever. It was not the YouTube show which did it, but it just happened to be at that moment when the symptoms were lifting. From there the depression and anhedonia 100% vanished within days, and the anxiety went away about 75%, eventually getting about 85-90% better. It never completely went away, due to permanent psychological damage I took from those 2 terrible months. But I am very thankful I broke out of it and returned mostly to normal. Many never do. I did this through my own custom treatment plan I developed through hundreds of hours of research.
Druff did MULTIPLE hundreds of hours of research that he was also able to implement within 6 weeks. Right.
Nice fucking catch, mcap. Ha. Here I get up to take a piss for the night, and, next, this bit.
---> How To Win The Championship: Hold'em Strategies For The Final Table.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcap
https://anagram-solver.net/Druff%20d....?partial=true
Definitely, the mind has ways to fool itself, especially with convincing itself that everything is okay. I mean, such healing, if ever, takes many years. With each bit, you become convinced of that, that you forgot what normal felt like.
As definitely, as I noted more than a few times, Druff, Druff has something seriously wrong with his head. Stuff that he's not really or actually dealing with.
(Oh, well, off to copy and paste the post before he deletes, or moves it. Ha.)
Yup. I did it all day and all night because I was so miserable and couldn't do anything else. Nor did I have a desire to do anything because of the super high levels of anxiety, depression, and anhedonia. Probably put 200 hours into it. The anhedonia was 6 weeks, but that showed up about 3 weeks in. The entire thing lasted at a high level for 9 weeks, and then after rapidly improving, still took another 2 months for the anxiety to lighten to the point where it is now.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcap
I don't care if anyone here believes me or not. That's what happened. I wouldn't make this up.
Also, for this psycho Gottlob/Bill Yung/Garnabby to say something is wrong with MY head is ironic.
I've tolerated his garbled drivel on this forum for years without doing much about it, aside from removing a few excessive shitposts. But if this weirdo is going to attempt to turn on me now, I'm just gonna show him the door. He doesn't add anything to this forum. I have already been close to just banning him because he's annoying and clutters threads with bullshit.
“Probably 200 hours.”
Ok so MAYBE multiple hundreds lol, and you’re not sure.
Dude you exaggerated and got caught, not a big deal. No accusations of you of flat out lying or not having suffered through the condition.
I for one believe you Druff. I think you're capable of almost anything mentally. Not so much physically :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffYup. I did it all day and all night because I was so miserable and couldn't do anything else. Nor did I have a desire to do anything because of the super high levels of anxiety, depression, and anhedonia. Probably put 200 hours into it. The anhedonia was 6 weeks, but that showed up about 3 weeks in. The entire thing lasted at a high level for 9 weeks, and then after rapidly improving, still took another 2 months for the anxiety to lighten to the point where it is now.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcap
I don't care if anyone here believes me or not. That's what happened. I wouldn't make this up.
Well deserved, he's absolute trash and a complete disrespectful ahole.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
I was about to thank Dan myself for that post but you beat me to the punch. Gott is ridiculous. It was funny at FIRST, but got old a REALLY long time ago. Also I don't get why Gott is able to freely create a bunch of random accounts and I got a roughly three week Suspension and threatened with a permanent banning if I created another Sock after my Cookie Monster Sock. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by OzzyWell deserved, he's absolute trash and a complete disrespectful ahole.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Thanks, V. I was meaning to thank you for that, but, I waited for the right time. It also amounted to another neat anagram-with-gematria (which I elected to keep to myself).Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
I didn't attempt to do anything. I simply did simply state my opinion or whatever, but, only after someone, in this case you, stated something per se. If you don't want replies, then don't put it out there, let alone in dribs and drabs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Turn on you? I have no idea what that could mean, on an anonymous internet message board, other than, say, decades of the neurotic Singer, KJ et al entanglements coupled with schizophrenic interjections, in fits and spurts, from the peanut gallery. Regardless, you have total control over your own message boards. And, so, what would be the point of even that with you? Same as calling me a psycho, by which who could truly care?
Moreover, there's no rule against anagrams-with-gematria, which isn't per se spam, in any way: "Irrelevant or inappropriate messages sent on the internet to a large number of recipients." The one above was hardly irrelevant, but right on topic ... in the sense of the internal narrative of a (professional) poker player wrt his perceived mental illnesses. No definition of anagram, or gematria, mentions anything about spam, pornography, and so on. There are internet message boards about each form of those harmless recreations. And, your boards have a block function. But, as far as uncensored boards go, even the StackExchange professional English language and usage board allows you to sincerely ask about anything that's in English, no matter how profane or otherwise offensive. Most people can deal with whatever stuff out in the open.
In general, are casino people that sure of themselves that they try to cure or whatever even their own admitted mental health conditions? I mean, all of them seem convinced that they are the "cream" of the intellectual crop. Sorry, but I stand by the truth, however I know and understand it. So, if that offends you, then you know where to shove it. Wouldn't want to get seriously caught up in shit like that.
I believe you. I’ve had similar issues myself for a long time. Took me years to get on right meds for this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffYup. I did it all day and all night because I was so miserable and couldn't do anything else. Nor did I have a desire to do anything because of the super high levels of anxiety, depression, and anhedonia. Probably put 200 hours into it. The anhedonia was 6 weeks, but that showed up about 3 weeks in. The entire thing lasted at a high level for 9 weeks, and then after rapidly improving, still took another 2 months for the anxiety to lighten to the point where it is now.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcap
I don't care if anyone here believes me or not. That's what happened. I wouldn't make this up.
Best advice I can give for anyone that experiences any type mental health issues is if you have Kaiser, dump them as soon as possible & get a different plan, they are the worst for this stuff.
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Originally Posted by Dan Druff
For years I thought the boy was "touched," or fucking with us.
Not any more:now I suspect he really is intelligent, he's not posting shit to fuck with us, it's just the way his brain works and how he copes with the world.
I suspect HE understands the stuff he posts, it makes sense to him.
The fact that most posters don't care for him should mean very little: we don't get to vote those who are different off the island, eh?
You don't like him: block him.
The Boz seems like a nice normal dude in that nice normal way but the consistent punching down towards Tasha is wtf. I feel bad enough giving Kewl so much shit but I it is mostly deserved given his insistence on continuing with his lies.
I even feel bad about Redietz at times. If Redietz did his football analysis and talked about his tournaments without insulting APs all the time he'd be fine. He'd get more positive attention without the insults.
Tasha? Sheesh. WTF. I'd be ashamed. So she begged for money supposedly at some point. Who cares. Why care? Why would a successful guy go out of his way? He should pick on anyone else.
Hell I live in my parent's basement. Boz should be giving me shit.
If you think about it, the guy names himself out of his football hero and attacks some harmless goofy woman with a gambling problem. Come'on dude. An embarrassment to the real boz. Can you imagine The Boz picking on some poor black woman? Normal successful people don't do that stuff.
Blocking people is an option but it isn't like it removes the problem. He still affects your reading in various ways.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterVQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
For years I thought the boy was "touched," or fucking with us.
Not any more:now I suspect he really is intelligent, he's not posting shit to fuck with us, it's just the way his brain works and how he copes with the world.
I suspect HE understands the stuff he posts, it makes sense to him.
The fact that most posters don't care for him should mean very little: we don't get to vote those who are different off the island, eh?
You don't like him: block him.
The problem with Garnabby is he is one of those anti-AP guys. Who cares, be an anti-AP but why hang out on a forum with APs? You're not helping the world. No one here gives a fuck about his opinions. Maybe he has a gem here and there but no one with a modicum of intelligence is going to read most of his posts to extract these gems. The anti-AP thing makes him much like Redietz.
People saying APs are bullshit is fine. It isn't a completely wrong at all but it also invites people to be even less tolerant.
So you have THAT and you also have his nonsense.
You can make sense of what he posts too if you want to spend the time comprehending things of 0 value.
Boz and I used to be cool, but he turned on me because I did a fed up cussing rant about Beachbumbabs. He himself admitted that he was cool with me until I cussed out his friend and that's why he started attacking me. As if all the shit I got over that cussing rant wasn't bad enough. I had problems with another Website and I mentioned having problems with another Website, and Boz was like,"Tell us the other Website that is bothering you and we'll stand up for you. " I ignored him since he was/is my enemy and his signature at the time was cussing me out. WHY would I think Boz would HELP me? Boz soon admitted he wasn't trying to help me, he was trying to make me look even worse at that other Website by looking like a tattle tale or something. He was like,"Tasha didn't take my bait. I tried to make Tasha get even MORE attacked at that Website that was attacking her. I'm surprised she figured out right off the bat I was trying to set her up for more attacks, not help her. She's not as stupid as I thought." I have Boz on ignore because he constantly harasses and insults me.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
What, did I start a lot of threads? Obviously, I had no effect on you, which is just fine. Your arguments continue to be void of even any faults worth correcting.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
The truth is the truth, ie, it isn't anything else, let alone takes sides.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
Now you're sounding a lot like Seedvalue, to do with his rants about Discord gambling forums. Ever try to find a specific forum over there using the forum search function, on Discord? Even if you know a name, the search function for that simply doesn't work. You're left to 60,000(?) pages of forums in non-alphabetical order to search through. Without that, it's not really possible to get an "invite", unless from an already specific forum member, which is required to join any of the forums there. But, Seedvalue seems to think that casinos search through and find also those gambling forums for information about such plays from the AP's. You guys are plain paranoid about such stuff, I guess, that doesn't exist anyway. Yeah, sure, "plays" in the tens of thousands dollars a week. Unicorns. Incidentally, the Discord forums are pretty much limited to "texting" because it's impossible to structure posts there.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
You still haven't provided any specifics, let alone about any unicorn plays, or the existence of. Just one AP dildo after the other, such as KJ, Redietz, Seedvalue, and MaxPen.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
Guys (except for Red) who made a big deal about ditching the Wizard, coming here, and, next, supposedly, to straighten out Alan's board to do with comps, casino management, and the like. So, who was the unwelcome addition? Alan never deleted anything, he was okay with the "refuge" troublemakers, but, he later noted that the place had thus become an "asylum". Virtually all of the regulars cleared out. But now you come along to accuse me of being anti- anything. Just fuck off, and let me out of your useless crap. You totally ungrateful piece of shit.
P.S. Dan. Time to remove the RIP banner. The "refuges" couldn't give a shit about Alan. Especially Boz, who tried to stamp out even Alan's spirit and soul, his very being.
I once told Dan that if I said what I was really thinking, that he couldn't take it. That still holds.
Boz = Rat Fink
AxelWolf = Drunken Fool
Garnabby + 8.5 Aliases = Cool
(That is, until, Garnabby Fucked it all up, with his long-winded replies, in fear of being banned.)
mcap is still a redskin, faggot, nigger though.
Monet….Quote:
Originally Posted by monet
Admitted junkie
Admitted he lives of his gook wife
Admitted lover of handjobs at massage parlors
Admitted he thought about how easy it would be to rob a member here
Admitted how fat he is
Admitted how he can’t stick to drinking healthy vegetable drinks
Admitted how afraid he was of Covid
Admitted he never leaves Vegas but dreams of living elsewhere
Admitted no one should ever believe anything he posts about gambling
Didn’t admit he can’t see his cock, but that’s obvious from his posts
Definitely the biggest piece of shit on these forums in a community of misfits.
Monet….Quote:
Originally Posted by monet
Admitted junkie
Admitted he lives of his gook wife
Admitted lover of handjobs at massage parlors
Admitted he thought about how easy it would be to rob a member here
Admitted how fat he is
Admitted how he can’t stick to drinking healthy vegetable drinks
Admitted how afraid he was of Covid
Admitted he never leaves Vegas but dreams of living elsewhere
Admitted no one should ever believe anything he posts about gambling
Didn’t admit he can’t see his cock, but that’s obvious from his posts
Definitely the biggest piece of shit on these forums in a community of misfits.
Double posted because this site sucks at times, but worth saying twice.
Nope, not named after Bozworth but whatever. Those who know, know.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
Sorry I don’t fit the model of how you expect someone in my life situation to act. It’s exactly why I’m in my life situation, I didn’t follow the norms of how society expects one to act.
I beat the system that most believe you need to follow to be “successful”. And many on here did the same and I’m thinking you are “semi” similar.
As I said before to you, you appear to be one of reasonably normal ones here, at least compared to Garanby. But yea, in my mind if you live in your parents basement you made some shitty life choices. At least in my world, but again, we all have our own paths to lead and maybe you can justify it. Not my determination. I’m sure you have your reasons.
As for Tasha, it’s probably bad I bash a retarted minority that enjoys her interactions here. Most of us have no clue what it’s like to be part of generation after generation of inferior intelligence that keeps breeding, blaming their lives on something that happened 160 years ago. I give her credit for not breeding and ending what unfortunately is probably one of 6-11 kids in a family that refuses to improve their life opportunities.
As for an embarrassment to the “real” Boz, did you ever see the movie Stone Cold? If so you owe me an apology. ��
Hey, I thought Lance Henriksen made a fine biker boss villain.
When pitting the two football players as bikers movies, Joe Namath's "CC and Company" and Boz's "Stone Cold," against each other, I have to say that Lance Henriksen gives Stone Cold a chance. But then Ann Margaret is in CC, so tough to choose which film is better. Stone Cold is probably easier on the mind and CC is easier on the eyes. I give them each a D+ because of Henriksen and Margaret.
While I said your prior post seemed "racist," I am not really faulting you for it as I, too, often harbor and express such thoughts.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
But I'm really trying to be a better person these days.
Picking on Tasha is simply "too easy:" like only picking the low hanging fruit.
Where is the satisfaction in getting something over on her?
I still give her some friendly shit but flaming her is NOT challenging; I have "moved on" to engaging with more formidable opponents such as the dawg and Robert when the opportunity arises.
To conclude: I ain't the forum police but Tasha is a bit, shall I say, "vulnerable..."
He was certainly better in Pumpkinhead. But that red haired dude was semi likable.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Yes it (she, he, whatever) is.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterVWhile I said your prior post seemed "racist," I am not really faulting you for it as I, too, often harbor and express such thoughts.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
But I'm really trying to be a better person these days.
Picking on Tasha is simply "too easy:" like only picking the low hanging fruit.
Where is the satisfaction in getting something over on her?
I still give her some friendly shit but flaming her is NOT challenging; I have "moved on" to engaging with more formidable opponents such as the dawg and Robert when the opportunity arises.
To conclude: I ain't the forum police but Tasha is a bit, shall I say, "vulnerable..."
As for Rob, you won’t get anything bad out of me towards him. Did it years ago, met the guy and liked him. He’s who he is like most of us and enjoys fucking with people who set themselves up for it. And if anyone ever gambled based on his “teachings” that’s on them.
And MDawg, most see him for what he is as well. Amusement fantasy postings looking for attention. Of course it’s mostly BS with some truth sprinkled in. I personally loved the stories from Ace of Spades years ago if I wanted the high rolling tales of a lawyer in Vegas. I will say about Ace those who say they wish MD was more truthful gave Ace a lot of shit about how he played. KJ and others bitched about the basic card counting system he used under the guise of trying to “help” him. So saying they wanted a more truthful or inclusive adventure from MD is BS.
Hell MD could be Ace reincarnated getting back at the members who gave him so much shit, but I don’t believe that. He’s just another WoV member that the crowd left there chased away over the years.
Thanks, Monet. As they say, two out of three ain't bad. And, lots of fun times.Quote:
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If the board causes Dan such angst, then it would be best for him to just walk away from it, ie, shut it down. But, laying that on me is a bit much.
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Boz, I don't think I gave Ace of Spades a lot of shit. I enjoyed his posts...a look into a higher limit player, that most of us won't experience. Same as I would have enjoyed that from MDawg if he had been honest About his play.
AofS was playing what? Ace-five count? Or was it speed count? I forget. Either way it wasnt enough to come close to turning the games he was playing +EV. I just wanted to be sure he understood this.
Frankly it just doesnt make sense to go to the trouble to count cards just to reduce the house advantage.
30 losses in a row was no doubt over-exaggerated.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
However, for the most part, he was a good poster and a cool guy.
I had to dig my parent's basement on my own bro. Thats how hard of a life I've had. If i had to literally live with my parents that shit would have motivated me to go get a fucking job. BUT digging the basement was free except for my own labor. They were pretty pissed when they found out but I'd basically already dug a hole big enough to put a cot in. I said pa', I just need a place to stay while I get on my feet. He had an engineer check it out. He wouldn't sign off on the safety but he gave us a wink and a nod and said we'd probably be ok. Been livin' here ever since.Quote:
Originally Posted by The BozNope, not named after Bozworth but whatever. Those who know, know.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
Sorry I don’t fit the model of how you expect someone in my life situation to act. It’s exactly why I’m in my life situation, I didn’t follow the norms of how society expects one to act.
I beat the system that most believe you need to follow to be “successful”. And many on here did the same and I’m thinking you are “semi” similar.
As I said before to you, you appear to be one of reasonably normal ones here, at least compared to Garanby. But yea, in my mind if you live in your parents basement you made some shitty life choices. At least in my world, but again, we all have our own paths to lead and maybe you can justify it. Not my determination. I’m sure you have your reasons.
As for Tasha, it’s probably bad I bash a retarted minority that enjoys her interactions here. Most of us have no clue what it’s like to be part of generation after generation of inferior intelligence that keeps breeding, blaming their lives on something that happened 160 years ago. I give her credit for not breeding and ending what unfortunately is probably one of 6-11 kids in a family that refuses to improve their life opportunities.
As for an embarrassment to the “real” Boz, did you ever see the movie Stone Cold? If so you owe me an apology. ��
Seriously though I wish I had bought a house and now I'm not sure sure. Houses are a lot of upkeep but they let you bump the pussy notch up by a 1 or 2. Yet if you're not going to be there half the time .. shrug. Part of my doomerism is that housing is going to just keep going up in price due to inflation driven by attempts at people saving themselves from mother unnature.
Anyway -back to the subject. My take is you were successful at business but really I have 0 clue about your life experience. So from what I picture you as - picking on Tasha just seems.. beneath who you should be but everyone sees things differently. The woman has a job. She's weird as fuck. She likes gambling too much but she has a job so who are we to judge her harshly?
Anyway in general I've tried to be a nicer person on these forums. We'll see if it lasts. My anti-social streak has been fading with age. I drink far less. I used to binge 2nd to few. I'm trying to be a normal average fella.
You ripping into Monet is far more justified. lol
No - did not see Stone Cold but I googled the boz in the course of the first post and saw that movie. I'm not a sports guy but perhaps I will watch the movie to gather a clue.
Even if blacks are not as smart by IQ standards - is there anything gained by being so blunt and antagonistic? You suggest you want these people to improve themselves but you sorta shit on the whole group of people. How does that help? I actually consider myself racist but I make a real effort to try and be a better person about it. These people need more role models. Maybe Tasha has blamed slavery. We all have shitty experiences with blacks and I've definitely had my share but then you meet well meaning honest black people.. or some black person helps you out. and you think - How can I not try to give everyone a chance and not pre-judge them? I just try to avoid ghettos. anyway.. Some random black dude out there just working and doing the American thing and he reads what you say? Just a shitty vibe. Why not be more considerate even if you have your own views. Whatever. Even in my greying days I still expect too much of people.
There really is no get rich quick stuff. APing isn't about getting rich for 99% of APs. It is many different things to many different people. If something is a unicorn play then it should be clear you never tell anyone and milk it yourself. The reality is that these things don't even ever come up for the vast majority of APs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gottlob1
Why would I provide specifics of anything? Most of it is out there.. counting cards.. walking around checking machines. There are plenty of specifics. If it isn't known then no reason to broadcast it on a forum with 100s of lurkers.
APs are mostly it is just people who were too quirky to get or hold or even want a job. People who never liked to work in the normal sense. Life is too short. That is why we have civilization. Some APs are too smart to work. Most never bought into the protestant work ethic.
I remember the day I was walking through the halls of a large blue-chip company. (Name would be recognized by everyone on here) Those grey walls.. one door past another and just htinking.. is this really what I want to do with myself? Just use my talents for some assholes? I get that is how it works but that is only because it is by default for most people in my position of life. So from there I started messing with poker and used it as an excuse to not work. I was never that good at poker. Too emotional, not level-headed enough, not willing to put in the work to improve myself in a proper way, etc etc. I can nit grind pretty well but now I have too much money to even do that very well.
Now I look back and see those all as wasted years yet here I am still fucking with gambling. At least I didn't have some shitty depressing job. I was depressed without the depressing job.
You are an intelligent person so why would you ever even expect people to talk about specifics of value? Why?
The difference here is that working casino comps like Alan did has not value. It is something to be shared. Things are burnt out over time but no one is all at once missing out on their primary income.
PS - I'm in a weirdly happy mood today. Don't worry I won't stay in sharing mode long.
The definition of becoming "rich" via AP varies between individuals and their goals. I know what mickey does and how he operates, and why. He may have far surpassed his goal long ago, and feel rich and happy just cruising along. Someone like axel, who is married with a home, probably has loftier goals and may or may not feel he's there yet. Same with max or seed or monet etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionThere really is no get rich quick stuff. APing isn't about getting rich for 99% of APs. It is many different things to many different people. If something is a unicorn play then it should be clear you never tell anyone and milk it yourself. The reality is that these things don't even ever come up for the vast majority of APs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gottlob1
Why would I provide specifics of anything? Most of it is out there.. counting cards.. walking around checking machines. There are plenty of specifics. If it isn't known then no reason to broadcast it on a forum with 100s of lurkers.
APs are mostly it is just people who were too quirky to get or hold or even want a job. People who never liked to work in the normal sense. Life is too short. That is why we have civilization. Some APs are too smart to work. Most never bought into the protestant work ethic.
I remember the day I was walking through the halls of a large blue-chip company. (Name would be recognized by everyone on here) Those grey walls.. one door past another and just htinking.. is this really what I want to do with myself? Just use my talents for some assholes? I get that is how it works but that is only because it is by default for most people in my position of life. So from there I started messing with poker and used it as an excuse to not work. I was never that good at poker. Too emotional, not level-headed enough, not willing to put in the work to improve myself in a proper way, etc etc. I can nit grind pretty well but now I have too much money to even do that very well.
Now I look back and see those all as wasted years yet here I am still fucking with gambling. At least I didn't have some shitty depressing job. I was depressed without the depressing job.
You are an intelligent person so why would you ever even expect people to talk about specifics of value? Why?
The difference here is that working casino comps like Alan did has not value. It is something to be shared. Things are burnt out over time but no one is all at once missing out on their primary income.
PS - I'm in a weirdly happy mood today. Don't worry I won't stay in sharing mode long.
While I wont bring it up again, I'm glad you recognize the proper and only way to treat a "unicorn" play.
I'm not agreeing that some AP's are too smart to work. That depends on their mindset, how & if they've planned out their lives, and again what their goals are--and when they choose to work as an AP. Those "grey walls with lots of doors" in those blue chip companies provide many professional employees and others with rewarding experiences, enduring friendships, early retirement opportunities, and financially secure futures thru their lucrative benefits programs. Yes the pensions, 401k match, and healthcare were far better in my day--and social security is a true bonus that might not be around long--but younger generations, with their aspirations, adapt and adjust.
Alan gambled at a fairly high level until he no longer could. That's why he closed out his life working the lower level comps. He wasn't doing anything that most Las Vegans don't do. I like to think he did it his way.
Do you really see your life in terms of "wasted years" along with depression? Is that why you post so much here? At least you're happy tonight.
We all know you had the biggest unicorn of them all. Even Kewl. He just doesn't want to admit. LOL. Just don't start bragging how long the horn was, please. Most of us will not be so blessed. Yea, thats it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
By APs being too smart to work I simply mean that they realized that the quality of life trade-off with the job life just simply wasn't there and they quit before they spent too much of their live developing any career. I've been lucky enough to know a few outliers in this area and listened to podcasts that interview successful people. Yes, some really were too smart to work. I don't put myself in that category which is why I refer to poker years as wasted years. It wasn't all bad but I think I would have simply found life more fulfilling having not made my living off poker. I'm not really proud of it so yea, I call it wasted. Yet there would have been other trade-offs and I have no idea where I would have wound up as a 9-5er.
I see poker as wasted just because I spent too much time with no financial gain at the end of it all. Had I applied myself with skills I had previously and just sucked it up I'd have far more to show for it. Yes, I am a depressed person. I don't like people much by default. I'm picky and finicky but on the other hand i don't need much. I can start living a real frugal life and it won't bother me much at all. THere have been long periods in my life where too few fucks were given.
Regardless I just look back at poker and it is not something i can be proud of. I have some decent stories. I don't think there is much chance of doxing me on this forum because it is so limited in size so I'll tell of a few things in my life.
This year I was staked in a game in a full on cartel compound. Rows of dune buggies, outdoor pool big enough for a dock with jetskis, house with no windows but thick metal door etc it was real deal shit. Not some netflix set. The games weren't big but the prostitutes were pretty enough. I had to drive to bumfuck but it is the sort of thing your average dude will never do.
I once fucking lost a 50 BTC poker hand. That's 1.5 fucking million dollars. Life changing money for me. Sure great story but what is the ending of it? 0 fucking BTC. I sold many BTC for relative pennies because I saw no real chance of it continuing to grow in value.
I once thought I was smart because of a crypto coin I had slithered my way into seemed to be run by scammers. So I sold it, right? Well I was spot on about the scammers but I just didn't realize we were on the same team when I sold. Fuck me ! I probably sold it back to them. Had I sold it at the right time it was 5 million.
This year (maybe last) I had a famous coked out degenerate rubbing my nipples through my shirt laughing his ass off with his whore at his side. Just being weird as fuck. I just awkwardly laughed about it. I think that made it even more funny for him. I don't think ti was a gay thing but who knows. I do know each line of his tab sheet had an increment of 10k. He was blind raising PF in a shorthanded PLO game. Best game I've ever seen but it was literally too much for me in other ways. Pretty sure the game wasn't even on the square and I was there on my own money but regardless I should have stuck it out but I'm too much of a pussy. I am going to half-assed try and get back to being staked in that game but not sure I want to stay up until 5am to keep a game going with a bunch of rich weirdos. It just fucks too much with life elsewhere and watching them give rich immigrants some sorta drugs so they'll dump their money is ehhh uhh not my thing. At this game I go to get cashed out and they make some special trip into the other room to give me packets half full of fucking 1rst generation hundreds. Seemed like they were waiting for some way to off load them.
Within the last year there was another game which I beleive I can be staked in. Haven't played there this year though so who knows. I go with my friend and we're let in and I'm just sorta looking around at the $$ put into the bar and such. It was a legitimate gangster's game. So these uhh henchmen type guys are apparently very concerned I am casing the place. So they all quickly get up around me and it was like.. woah woah. I tell them George brought me here to play with David.. but that didn't really seem to matter until David himself motioned me over. lol fuck
Anyway... lots of stories but I don't really care to share them. Why would i? I don't want people's attention. I never have. I just want to keep moving because that is life.
Rich in stories doesn't necessarily get you anywhere. (duck) Ask Redietz.
A few months ago I had a date with a girl I grew up around. I think all of our mutual friends were curious what happened to me. I had no interactions with them after I was done with HS. I started telling her about my life and multiple times throughout she did this whole mouth agape thing. (no not for that. too bad) I bet all those hens I grew up with were cluck cluck clucking. I didn't even tell her stories. Just an A,B,C,D where my life went. lol that still cracks me up. I 100% know AIQ hit the grapevine hard. I don't even know how to relate to people like that. "WHat do you do - she asks?"
My life has been interesting but still .. wasted. I have a lot of stories I don't even like telling. Sometimes - with people I find to be somewhat degenerate but not really otherwise.
Pretty sure lots of guys around here have lived more than their share of stories. Crimm for sure. Anyone with a serious drinking habit. Any longterm gambler who gambles in the physical world will have. Thats part of what makes it fun.
This place I just laugh at the absurdities. Sometimes try to get some AP info. Sometimes I try to make the best joke I can. Yea, I know I try too hard but it is too easy and too tempting. Sometimes I'm all goofed up on THC rambling on like now. Here you get one of these moments.
I don't have Kaiser. They suck. I told people 25 years ago to ditch them, and I still say the same today.Quote:
Originally Posted by DGenBenI believe you. I’ve had similar issues myself for a long time. Took me years to get on right meds for this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffYup. I did it all day and all night because I was so miserable and couldn't do anything else. Nor did I have a desire to do anything because of the super high levels of anxiety, depression, and anhedonia. Probably put 200 hours into it. The anhedonia was 6 weeks, but that showed up about 3 weeks in. The entire thing lasted at a high level for 9 weeks, and then after rapidly improving, still took another 2 months for the anxiety to lighten to the point where it is now.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcap
I don't care if anyone here believes me or not. That's what happened. I wouldn't make this up.
Best advice I can give for anyone that experiences any type mental health issues is if you have Kaiser, dump them as soon as possible & get a different plan, they are the worst for this stuff.
It was a pain in the ass getting a psychiatrist at all. They were all either booked or didn't take my insurance. Then I started being open to just saying fuck insurance and paying for one, and I still couldn't find one in the area (or even in the outlying areas) taking new patients, aside from a few who were known as shitshow pill pushers.
I finally found a decent one who was reasonably close, who also took my insurance. He actually spent time listening, which a lot of psychiatrists don't -- they just fire pills at you and ask the next week how it went. This guy actually listened. I didn't need someone to listen to my problems, as this was a physically caused issue, and not from any troubles in my life. Still, I wanted someone who fully understood my symptoms and would do the best at working with me to find a solution.
I told him I didn't want to go on any permanent meds like Paxil. It was too early in the situation (maybe 6 weeks into the whole thing), and once you get on this shit, you can't really get off. They also cause you to not be able to get it up anymore, so fuck that. I knew I didn't have hereditary anxiety/depression, as it was showing up way too late for that (age 46). I just wanted to get to the bottom of what the fuck was going on and take care of it.
I can't say I agreed with all of his suggestions, but some of them were good. He also was accepting that I didn't want to try those meds yet, and wanted to try to work this out on my own, using just Xanax as necessary. Part of the plan I came up with for myself was an every-5-days low dose Xanax to kind of get my mind back used to feeling normal again, even just for fleeting time periods. He said he never heard of Xanax being used that way, but was fine with it if I wanted to try, as once-every-120-hours low dose Xanax would never cause addiction, especially in someone like me who doesn't do recreational drugs. When not on Xanax, I used something counterintuitive -- caffeine (based upon research of how I was metabolizing it, meaning it was good for me). I made some other changes I felt would push the dopamine levels in my brain back to the levels they were prior to the problems. It was my determination after all the research that I was suffering from a low dopamine level, and that solving the dopamine meant solving the psychological issues.
My regimen worked. When I went to the psychiatrist and reported my success, he called the regimen "interesting" and had never seen something done like that before, but actually thought there might be some validity to my theories. Whatever it was, things were working and bringing me back closer to my old self.
Anyway, bottom line is that after a lot of self-directed failures at curing this, I put an end to the worst symptoms of it, and now live normally again. And it only took 2 terrible months and one sub-normal but improving month after. By the time 3 months had past, I was significantly better. All without being on any long term psych meds (I take none except the very occasional Xanax).
I did develop a new appreciation for those who suffer from severe anxiety and depression. I never knew what it felt like before. Now I do, and I understand exactly what those people are going through. Some are cursed to deal with it their entire lives. I got out of it after a few months.
The 5-year-anniversary of the very worst day of the whole thing just passed. September 7, 2018. I was at such an intense level of anxiety and depression that my brain felt a tremendous pressure, as if I had just experienced major trauma minutes beforehand. I spent most of the day in a dark room, in bed, completely debilitated. I could still think rationally and wondered how my own brain was betraying me like this. Rationally I knew everything was fine, but my emotions and perceptions were that of high trauma and stress. I could write or speak and sound normal, but I was anything but. On that day, I said to myself, "I don't have to get all better, but if I could just be able to live normally again, maybe get 85% of the way there, I'll be so thankful. That's all I'm asking for." And that's what I eventually got.
accountingquestion - Did I know you in poker? I didn't know you were a poker guy before.
I had a 9-to-5 through my early 30s. By that point, I was starting to really regret it. I thought about how many years of my existence I would be wasting, toiling for someone else, just to live for the weekends and whatever little recreational time I could make for myself after work.
I think many poker players sometimes feel guilty that they are not "contributing" to society. Well, you don't have to work a 9-5 to contribute to society. There's plenty of other things you can do.
Bottom line is I didn't want to be on my deathbed and think about all the years I wasted at work.
As usual, there is a lot of babbling without really saying much.Quote:
Originally Posted by gottlob1I didn't attempt to do anything. I simply did simply state my opinion or whatever, but, only after someone, in this case you, stated something per se. If you don't want replies, then don't put it out there, let alone in dribs and drabs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Turn on you? I have no idea what that could mean, on an anonymous internet message board, other than, say, decades of the neurotic Singer, KJ et al entanglements coupled with schizophrenic interjections, in fits and spurts, from the peanut gallery. Regardless, you have total control over your own message boards. And, so, what would be the point of even that with you? Same as calling me a psycho, by which who could truly care?
Moreover, there's no rule against anagrams-with-gematria, which isn't per se spam, in any way: "Irrelevant or inappropriate messages sent on the internet to a large number of recipients." The one above was hardly irrelevant, but right on topic ... in the sense of the internal narrative of a (professional) poker player wrt his perceived mental illnesses. No definition of anagram, or gematria, mentions anything about spam, pornography, and so on. There are internet message boards about each form of those harmless recreations. And, your boards have a block function. But, as far as uncensored boards go, even the StackExchange professional English language and usage board allows you to sincerely ask about anything that's in English, no matter how profane or otherwise offensive. Most people can deal with whatever stuff out in the open.
In general, are casino people that sure of themselves that they try to cure or whatever even their own admitted mental health conditions? I mean, all of them seem convinced that they are the "cream" of the intellectual crop. Sorry, but I stand by the truth, however I know and understand it. So, if that offends you, then you know where to shove it. Wouldn't want to get seriously caught up in shit like that.
I'm just going by my experience reading your posts.
Only occasionally do you actually add to the discussion. Usually it's a bunch of bizarre babble, numerology, anagrams, or other crap that most people scroll past.
Now, to be fair, this is an offbeat site full of offbeat people. Viewed through that lens, you're just part of the bizarre scenery here, and I chose not to interfere with it, provided it didn't create too much clutter.
But I noticed within the past week or so that you seem to be sniping at me. That part isn't against the rules here. People are allowed to bash me if they want. Hell, Rob has done it multiple times, and he's still here. However, when it's a combo of annoying babble AND random snipes at me, that's when I start thinking of hitting the ban button. And as you've seen, it's a button I almost never use here.
I'm never going to use the block button on my own forum. First off, I think block buttons are stupid, because you're just sticking your head in the sand and pretending not to see what everyone else does. More importantly, when I get to the point where I have to block someone her, I'm better off just removing them.
Finally, regarding the RIP Alan message at the top...
I was initially going to leave it up for a few months, but I've gotten used to it being there. Whether you liked Alan or not, he started this place in 2010, and he handed it off to me in 2016 when it was stressing him out too much. Now he's no longer on this earth. I didn't agree with him on a number of things, and we had our share of arguments. But I still respected him and the fact that this place was originally started by him. That's why I kept it fairly close to its Alanbestbuys roots when I took over, and just shifted some things around.
Even though he left the forum for awhile, I'm at least glad that he returned prior to his semi-unexpected passing. Given that he gave me the site for free, I think the least I can do is honor his memory with that small message at the top.
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Originally Posted by Dan DruffAs usual, there is a lot of babbling without really saying much.Quote:
Originally Posted by gottlob1I didn't attempt to do anything. I simply did simply state my opinion or whatever, but, only after someone, in this case you, stated something per se. If you don't want replies, then don't put it out there, let alone in dribs and drabs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Turn on you? I have no idea what that could mean, on an anonymous internet message board, other than, say, decades of the neurotic Singer, KJ et al entanglements coupled with schizophrenic interjections, in fits and spurts, from the peanut gallery. Regardless, you have total control over your own message boards. And, so, what would be the point of even that with you? Same as calling me a psycho, by which who could truly care?
Moreover, there's no rule against anagrams-with-gematria, which isn't per se spam, in any way: "Irrelevant or inappropriate messages sent on the internet to a large number of recipients." The one above was hardly irrelevant, but right on topic ... in the sense of the internal narrative of a (professional) poker player wrt his perceived mental illnesses. No definition of anagram, or gematria, mentions anything about spam, pornography, and so on. There are internet message boards about each form of those harmless recreations. And, your boards have a block function. But, as far as uncensored boards go, even the StackExchange professional English language and usage board allows you to sincerely ask about anything that's in English, no matter how profane or otherwise offensive. Most people can deal with whatever stuff out in the open.
In general, are casino people that sure of themselves that they try to cure or whatever even their own admitted mental health conditions? I mean, all of them seem convinced that they are the "cream" of the intellectual crop. Sorry, but I stand by the truth, however I know and understand it. So, if that offends you, then you know where to shove it. Wouldn't want to get seriously caught up in shit like that.
I'm just going by my experience reading your posts.
Only occasionally do you actually add to the discussion. Usually it's a bunch of bizarre babble, numerology, anagrams, or other crap that most people scroll past.
Now, to be fair, this is an offbeat site full of offbeat people. Viewed through that lens, you're just part of the bizarre scenery here, and I chose not to interfere with it, provided it didn't create too much clutter.
But I noticed within the past week or so that you seem to be sniping at me. That part isn't against the rules here. People are allowed to bash me if they want. Hell, Rob has done it multiple times, and he's still here. However, when it's a combo of annoying babble AND random snipes at me, that's when I start thinking of hitting the ban button. And as you've seen, it's a button I almost never use here.
I'm never going to use the block button on my own forum. First off, I think block buttons are stupid, because you're just sticking your head in the sand and pretending not to see what everyone else does. More importantly, when I get to the point where I have to block someone her, I'm better off just removing them.
Great story Dan, & I’m glad you got the issues resolved!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffQuote:
Originally Posted by DGenBenI believe you. I’ve had similar issues myself for a long time. Took me years to get on right meds for this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Best advice I can give for anyone that experiences any type mental health issues is if you have Kaiser, dump them as soon as possible & get a different plan, they are the worst for this stuff.
I don't have Kaiser. They suck. I told people 25 years ago to ditch them, and I still say the same today.
It was a pain in the ass getting a psychiatrist at all. They were all either booked or didn't take my insurance. Then I started being open to just saying fuck insurance and paying for one, and I still couldn't find one in the area (or even in the outlying areas) taking new patients, aside from a few who were known as shitshow pill pushers.
I finally found a decent one who was reasonably close, who also took my insurance. He actually spent time listening, which a lot of psychiatrists don't -- they just fire pills at you and ask the next week how it went. This guy actually listened. I didn't need someone to listen to my problems, as this was a physically caused issue, and not from any troubles in my life. Still, I wanted someone who fully understood my symptoms and would do the best at working with me to find a solution.
I told him I didn't want to go on any permanent meds like Paxil. It was too early in the situation (maybe 6 weeks into the whole thing), and once you get on this shit, you can't really get off. They also cause you to not be able to get it up anymore, so fuck that. I knew I didn't have hereditary anxiety/depression, as it was showing up way too late for that (age 46). I just wanted to get to the bottom of what the fuck was going on and take care of it.
I can't say I agreed with all of his suggestions, but some of them were good. He also was accepting that I didn't want to try those meds yet, and wanted to try to work this out on my own, using just Xanax as necessary. Part of the plan I came up with for myself was an every-5-days low dose Xanax to kind of get my mind back used to feeling normal again, even just for fleeting time periods. He said he never heard of Xanax being used that way, but was fine with it if I wanted to try, as once-every-120-hours low dose Xanax would never cause addiction, especially in someone like me who doesn't do recreational drugs. When not on Xanax, I used something counterintuitive -- caffeine (based upon research of how I was metabolizing it, meaning it was good for me). I made some other changes I felt would push the dopamine levels in my brain back to the levels they were prior to the problems. It was my determination after all the research that I was suffering from a low dopamine level, and that solving the dopamine meant solving the psychological issues.
My regimen worked. When I went to the psychiatrist and reported my success, he called the regimen "interesting" and had never seen something done like that before, but actually thought there might be some validity to my theories. Whatever it was, things were working and bringing me back closer to my old self.
Anyway, bottom line is that after a lot of self-directed failures at curing this, I put an end to the worst symptoms of it, and now live normally again. And it only took 2 terrible months and one sub-normal but improving month after. By the time 3 months had past, I was significantly better. All without being on any long term psych meds (I take none except the very occasional Xanax).
I did develop a new appreciation for those who suffer from severe anxiety and depression. I never knew what it felt like before. Now I do, and I understand exactly what those people are going through. Some are cursed to deal with it their entire lives. I got out of it after a few months.
The 5-year-anniversary of the very worst day of the whole thing just passed. September 7, 2018. I was at such an intense level of anxiety and depression that my brain felt a tremendous pressure, as if I had just experienced major trauma minutes beforehand. I spent most of the day in a dark room, in bed, completely debilitated. I could still think rationally and wondered how my own brain was betraying me like this. Rationally I knew everything was fine, but my emotions and perceptions were that of high trauma and stress. I could write or speak and sound normal, but I was anything but. On that day, I said to myself, "I don't have to get all better, but if I could just be able to live normally again, maybe get 85% of the way there, I'll be so thankful. That's all I'm asking for." And that's what I eventually got.
Funny story, when I had my issues Kaiser had this week long outpatient class that I took.
Some of their advice was to buy scented candles & a shiny ball you can squeeze to help reduce stress.
When the class ended (there were about 30 people in it) they asked everyone for feedback & the feedback I gave was, I think I am going to upgrade my insurance to at least the next step above “play with a shiny ball” when experiencing mental health issues.
Yes Todd you know me. I ask that you not mention who I am in any way but we were in a car once while we evacuated you from an impending natural disaster. If you still can't figure out who I am then DM me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
You have a point. I didn't want to waste my life doing a 9-5 but then looking back I feel the poker time was wasted. You were more successful at poker though. I was always mediocre although in some games my PTR said I was quite solid.
Ironically this discussion about depression and the likes. I'm going to add something here a bit personal and I'm sure I'll catch some shit. I am on a drug that seconds as a mood stabilizer. (not an anti-depressant) A few days ago I wrote about my experiences in fair detail and then couldn't sleep. The next day I realized I hadn't taken the pill and so the previous night I had leaned on the manic side. Otherwise I'd never told this forum any of that. lol. I questioned whether the drug did anything but the longer I take it the more I see little things like that. Used to be drinking that'd sorta bring out the mania.
If you're spending money you're contributing to society. The question is about "are you productive".Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
For many many people, a lifetime of doing the 9 to 5 is not even close to have been wasting their time. My particular "9 to 5" for the 25 years I did it was hardly traditional. In one form or another it is that way around the world, and the world continues to churn. But for those who choose to leave that scene, there's no less value.
Alan's arguing is missed. Alan is missed.
Thanks for that, Ray.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray Finkle
As usual the most useful answers are deeply embedded in the garbage.
The way I look at your thumbs-up, I guess, to Dan, is that "When you point the thumb (at God), then there are four fingers pointing back at you."Quote:
Maybe you know the saying, "When you point one finger, there are three fingers pointing back to you." Jesus had a version of this wisdom when he said, "Don't focus on the speck in your brother's eye while ignoring the log in your own eye." When cruel accusations fly, we all need to hear the voice of reason that says, "Look in the mirror, sister. You might just be talking about yourself."
Anyway, were the road to the "end of science" (Hawking's words) a straight, or serious, road, then all of us would have ended up there, a long time ago.
P.S. Bobert. At least I harbor no illusions about being missed. Who the heck are you talking to, anyway? Lololol. Ha. Fuck.
P.P.S. Mental illness, like a back problem, can't be exercised. You just have to step back, for however long it takes, to properly and fully re-evaluate your "place in the world". Note as well that the spinal cord is merely an extension of the brain, but, in this case, for secondary mental processes.
Even though I did my share of bashing Alan's foolishness/ utter stupidity, he will always remain as the pioneer of VCT and amongst the most colorful forum legends of all time. Easily top 10 in notoriety.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.SingerIf you're spending money you're contributing to society. The question is about "are you productive".Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
For many many people, a lifetime of doing the 9 to 5 is not even close to have been wasting their time. My particular "9 to 5" for the 25 years I did it was hardly traditional. In one form or another it is that way around the world, and the world continues to churn. But for those who choose to leave that scene, there's no less value.
Alan's arguing is missed. Alan is missed.
Miss him big time! He was awesomeQuote:
Originally Posted by OzzyEven though I did my share of bashing Alan's foolishness/ utter stupidity, he will always remain as the pioneer of VCT and amongst the most colorful forum legends of all time. Easily top 10 in notoriety.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.SingerIf you're spending money you're contributing to society. The question is about "are you productive".Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
For many many people, a lifetime of doing the 9 to 5 is not even close to have been wasting their time. My particular "9 to 5" for the 25 years I did it was hardly traditional. In one form or another it is that way around the world, and the world continues to churn. But for those who choose to leave that scene, there's no less value.
Alan's arguing is missed. Alan is missed.
Also miss his lawyer AndrewG