KJ's Mdawg challenges (multiple)

1.) Mdawg release Wizard, Michael Shackleford from the NDA, so that Shackleford a respected gambling expert can give his opinion on various subject involving Mdawgs claims and answer various questions involving these claims and I will prove some things to Dan Druff that several people here have been demanding that I prove, even though I am opposed to this on principal.

2.) Mdawg release Wizard from the DNA so he can say what he thinks and answer questions and I will join Mdawg, Wizard and Axelwolf, who I know has many of the same questions on Wizards stream or podcast or whatever you call it. And we will just see who knows what they are talking about.

3). I accept Mdawg Challenge in principle except I am not interested in focusing on any one specific session. I am interested in longer term. Mdawg's challenge says he will prove to the challengers satisfaction. Well my satisfaction can't be met with win statements or casino records that can be doctored. My satisfaction involved someone I know and trust (possibly myself) witnessing and maybe recording a months' worth of Mdawg play and lets just see if it matches or even comes close to matching any months worth of play he has claimed over the last 5 years.

These challenges are all fair. I am giving up something I am opposed to in two of them. The third I am agreeing to Mdawgs terms, just on a longer month long period instead of individual session.

Let's see if he is man enough to accept any? I made this an individual thread so I can periodically bump it to remind of his cowardness to accept.

Edit: I would accept Dan Druff's radio show as an alternative to Wizards stream, although I would like Wizard to be free to participate and express his opinions, which he has been restricted from doing. maybe we can get Mike and Axelwolf, along with Mdawg and myself on Druff's show. That way no one need show their face. I am sure details can be worked out.

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

MDawg already challenged you to the point you could have doubled your made up settlement. He really owes you no response until you prove that even one bit piece of anything you claim has merit.
How about just a pic of the surfboard with the "fuck you Max" sign on it? You don't even have to cart your fraud ass to the pool that doesn't exist in the tunnels.

We all are waiting. That should take all of two minutes to get done.

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The UNKewl Challenge - did UNKewlJ receive any settlement money for his fictional backrooming incident?

At this point the frequency of your posting alone is enough to undermine your claim to spend significant hours at BJ tables.

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Originally Posted by smurgerburger

At this point the frequency of your posting alone is enough to undermine your claim to spend significant hours at BJ tables.

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One has nothing to do with the other.

For the second half of this year, my BJ play has taken place on Friday and Saturday nights into early morning hours. I suggest you check for any postings by me during these times. You will find none. I announced last week I am done for the year (possible one more day of play between Xmas and NYE), which is why I will probably post some more tonight while I watch some football and basketball.

Exactly. At least I've posted about refraining from the tables so whatever I am doing these days, I am not playing!

UNKewlJ on the other hand, would need to spend so much time driving around just to be able to get in his fictional short sessions that he'd be busy round the clock just trying to get from one place to another. Which come to think of it, how does he even get around? All he's mentioned in all his years of fictionalized play is the Escalade car service from the Dean Martin Dr. Panorama / The Martin towers which we established he doesn't even live at. Not one bad taxi story, not one bad Uber/Lyft story, how does this guy even get around, other than by pushing a shopping cart?

He does occasionally mention a bicycle, which the homeless do ride those occasionally.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

Exactly. At least I've posted about refraining from the tables so whatever I am doing these days, I am not playing!

UNKewlJ on the other hand, would need to spend so much time driving around just to be able to get in his fictional short sessions that he'd be busy round the clock just trying to get from one place to another. Which come to think of it, how does he even get around? All he's mentioned in all his years of fictionalized play is the Escalade car service from the Dean Martin Dr. Panorama / The Martin towers which we established he doesn't even live at. Not one bad taxi story, not one bad Uber/Lyft story, how does this guy even get around, other than by pushing a shopping cart?

He does occasionally mention a bicycle, which the homeless do ride those occasionally.

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Where I live is part of what I am willing to prove to independent party Dan Druff. So all you have to do is accept the more than fair terms and we can end this.

Or yoiu can keep trolling. Wonder which Mdawg will choose? :confused:

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

At this point anyone who thinks FraudJ represents anything truthfully or factually correct is a fool.....RIP

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Anything requiring research with FraudJ is a complete waste of time.

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

You haven't given anything. Your deal doesn't seem to give anything before you get what you want. When dealing with socios like yourself it's imperative that you go first.

I'm all for getting to the bottom of people's nonsense. Your two decades of fraud and deceit was completely called into question. So far crickets on anything. Right now your attempt to flip the script is failing.

The major thing you have to understand is your words have a negative intrinsic value. Completely worthless....RIP

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More trolling as Mdawg cowardly refuses to accept my challenges.

That is all we will get from him.

Until he is ready to accept something I will leave ya'll to troll amongst yourselves.

I know Mdawg has no shame but I will bump this thread every day.

Is that a promise like when you said to me, (more than once)

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Originally Posted by KewlJ

I will no longer respond to anything you say

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Originally Posted by MDawg

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Originally Posted by DGenBen

Interesting,

But I think what everyone on here is really interested in is your thoughts about Kewlj?

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When it comes to classic Star Trek and UNKewLyingJ, this comes to mind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WRtqmHpLvg

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Two nights a week, playing short sessions. Making 6 figures.

I don't know why anyone even bothers to leave Las Vegas.

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Originally Posted by smurgerburger

Two nights a week, playing short sessions. Making 6 figures.

I don't know why anyone even bothers to leave Las Vegas.

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I did not make 6 figures playing blackjack this year. I made just over 60k from blackjack play (and I don't include any settlement as blackjack play). Nor have I averaged 6 figures for the 14 years I have played Vegas playing blackjack. I have averaged just under 80k, about 79k, maybe 78k after this year strictly from blackjack.

I have averaged 6 figures, very low 6 figured with my other advantage play things added in (mostly VP play). This year my other AP is almost as much as my blackjack as I have had 3 other forms of advantage play, including sports betting bonus whoring or play. This diversification is something some of my AP friends have wanted me to do for a long time. This year I accomplished that at least some. We will see what the future brings. I really consider myself a blackjack player AP, but there are good opportunities elsewhere.

I don't know if you are intentionally twisting numbers, but it feels like you are being intentionally dishonest. Be better than that.

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Originally Posted by smurgerburger

At this point the frequency of your posting alone is enough to undermine your claim to spend significant hours at BJ tables.

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One has nothing to do with the other.

For the second half of this year, my BJ play has taken place on Friday and Saturday nights into early morning hours. I suggest you check for any postings by me during these times. You will find none. I announced last week I am done for the year (possible one more day of play between Xmas and NYE), which is why I will probably post some more tonight while I watch some football and basketball.

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Ol John comes to town on these nights.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

1.) Mdawg release Wizard, Michael Shackleford from the NDA, so that Shackleford a respected gambling expert can give his opinion on various subject involving Mdawgs claims and answer various questions involving these claims and I will prove some things to Dan Druff that several people here have been demanding that I prove, even though I am opposed to this on principal.

2.) Mdawg release Wizard from the DNA so he can say what he thinks and answer questions and I will join Mdawg, Wizard and Axelwolf, who I know has many of the same questions on Wizards stream or podcast or whatever you call it. And we will just see who knows what they are talking about.

3). I accept Mdawg Challenge in principle except I am not interested in focusing on any one specific session. I am interested in longer term. Mdawg's challenge says he will prove to the challengers satisfaction. Well my satisfaction can't be met with win statements or casino records that can be doctored. My satisfaction involved someone I know and trust (possibly myself) witnessing and maybe recording a months' worth of Mdawg play and lets just see if it matches or even comes close to matching any months worth of play he has claimed over the last 5 years.

These challenges are all fair. I am giving up something I am opposed to in two of them. The third I am agreeing to Mdawgs terms, just on a longer month long period instead of individual session.

Let's see if he is man enough to accept any? I made this an individual thread so I can periodically bump it to remind of his cowardness to accept.

Edit: I would accept Dan Druff's radio show as an alternative to Wizards stream, although I would like Wizard to be free to participate and express his opinions, which he has been restricted from doing. maybe we can get Mike and Axelwolf, along with Mdawg and myself on Druff's show. That way no one need show their face. I am sure details can be worked out.

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It seems unlikely that an interview that wasn't done in person would bear any fruit. At best it would possibly divulge some things that don't make sense. But what good is that? There are already many things that don't make sense, but it still hasn't proven anything either way. They can always mask, backtrack, or cover that up with more BS. There's examples of this already. 60 "some" hands of blackjack in a row.

To really debunk someone or something in a situation like this, you really need an in-person interview where the interviewee is willing to participate in whatever challenges that are presented at the time.

Unfortunately, your memory is pretty bad too. Maybe as bad, maybe worse, maybe slightly better. But still bad.

In any case UNkewLyingJ won't ever deliver anything because he has nothing to deliver. Only a fool would engage with him before he performed entirely or at least performed with somethin' to show that he's not the fraud we all know he is.

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Originally Posted by smurgerburger

Two nights a week, playing short sessions. Making 6 figures.

I don't know why anyone even bothers to leave Las Vegas.

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I did not make 6 figures playing blackjack this year. I made just over 60k from blackjack play (and I don't include any settlement as blackjack play). Nor have I averaged 6 figures for the 14 years I have played Vegas playing blackjack. I have averaged just under 80k, about 79k, maybe 78k after this year strictly from blackjack.

I have averaged 6 figures, very low 6 figured with my other advantage play things added in (mostly VP play). This year my other AP is almost as much as my blackjack as I have had 3 other forms of advantage play, including sports betting bonus whoring or play. This diversification is something some of my AP friends have wanted me to do for a long time. This year I accomplished that at least some. We will see what the future brings. I really consider myself a blackjack player AP, but there are good opportunities elsewhere.

I don't know if you are intentionally twisting numbers, but it feels like you are being intentionally dishonest. Be better than that.

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Funny these "AP friends" are not known by dozens of verified and known APs.:cool:

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Originally Posted by MDawg

Unfortunately, your memory is pretty bad too. Maybe as bad, maybe worse, maybe slightly better. But still bad.

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Everybody's memory is bad. Or they are a drunk, or a drug addict. Or whatever else you can come up with to attempt to discredit them.

You are already laying the ground work for claiming Shackleford's memory is bad.

You are a real sleezeball.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

is something some of my AP friends have wanted me to do for a long time.

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Funny these "AP friends" are not known by dozens of verified and known APs.:cool:

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

I was recruited for teams at least twice. Another top, long running team claims they were recruiting me that I was not aware of. I turned down all offers.

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There is a clear trend that has developed now. All of KewlJ's implied associates are turning out to be other invented characters in his years of lies. ...RIP

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Originally Posted by MDawg

You have to figure about how after all these years of claiming that he has worked with this or that "AP," that this or that "AP" knows what happened to him here or there (including his lie about how various "APs" have contacted him about his fictitious backrooming incident after hearing about it), the only thing verified about him by multiple actual persons is that he has played a little red and green blackjack in the company of a sugar daddy.

THAT (to use an UNKewl introductory intensifier) says it all.

By now if there were any truth to any of what he claims something other than verification for his being a male prostitute would have come out.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

1.) Mdawg release Wizard, Michael Shackleford from the NDA, so that Shackleford a respected gambling expert can give his opinion on various subject involving Mdawgs claims and answer various questions involving these claims and I will prove some things to Dan Druff that several people here have been demanding that I prove, even though I am opposed to this on principal.

2.) Mdawg release Wizard from the DNA so he can say what he thinks and answer questions and I will join Mdawg, Wizard and Axelwolf, who I know has many of the same questions on Wizards stream or podcast or whatever you call it. And we will just see who knows what they are talking about.

3). I accept Mdawg Challenge in principle except I am not interested in focusing on any one specific session. I am interested in longer term. Mdawg's challenge says he will prove to the challengers satisfaction. Well my satisfaction can't be met with win statements or casino records that can be doctored. My satisfaction involved someone I know and trust (possibly myself) witnessing and maybe recording a months' worth of Mdawg play and lets just see if it matches or even comes close to matching any months worth of play he has claimed over the last 5 years.

These challenges are all fair. I am giving up something I am opposed to in two of them. The third I am agreeing to Mdawgs terms, just on a longer month long period instead of individual session.

Let's see if he is man enough to accept any? I made this an individual thread so I can periodically bump it to remind of his cowardness to accept.

Edit: I would accept Dan Druff's radio show as an alternative to Wizards stream, although I would like Wizard to be free to participate and express his opinions, which he has been restricted from doing. maybe we can get Mike and Axelwolf, along with Mdawg and myself on Druff's show. That way no one need show their face. I am sure details can be worked out.

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It seems unlikely that an interview that wasn't done in person would bear any fruit. At best it would possibly divulge some things that don't make sense. But what good is that? There are already many things that don't make sense, but it still hasn't proven anything either way. They can always mask, backtrack, or cover that up with more BS. There's examples of this already. 60 "some" hands of blackjack in a row.

To really debunk someone or something in a situation like this, you really need an in-person interview where the interviewee is willing to participate in whatever challenges that are presented at the time.

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Mike's stream is face to face. I would be willing to work something out. I think we could reach an agreement acceptable to everyone. Well except Mdawg. He simply can't have this go down because it would be the end of the Mdawg fantasy story. So I dont expect he will agree to anything. Instead he will just call people homeless, and drunks, and drug addicts, and "wizard's memory isn't good". Whatever he has to, to discredit anyone challenging his claims. THAT has been his play for a year now.

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

Kew you're not fooling anybody with your stoopid "my blackjack journey" stuff....and you never have. You've never done anything more than "lift" information, procedures and tactics off of the true players and concocted stories of your own with it. If you're not seeing this reputation you've earned, then you are certified Philadelphia-dumb. And continuously trying to divert and deflect by using the mdawg "journey" while showing your irritation with and hatred of wizard for ignoring your constant nonsense & obsession, all you're doing is making an even bigger fool of yourself.

THAT'S how things really work.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

1.) Mdawg release Wizard, Michael Shackleford from the NDA, so that Shackleford a respected gambling expert can give his opinion on various subject involving Mdawgs claims and answer various questions involving these claims and I will prove some things to Dan Druff that several people here have been demanding that I prove, even though I am opposed to this on principal.

2.) Mdawg release Wizard from the DNA so he can say what he thinks and answer questions and I will join Mdawg, Wizard and Axelwolf, who I know has many of the same questions on Wizards stream or podcast or whatever you call it. And we will just see who knows what they are talking about.

3). I accept Mdawg Challenge in principle except I am not interested in focusing on any one specific session. I am interested in longer term. Mdawg's challenge says he will prove to the challengers satisfaction. Well my satisfaction can't be met with win statements or casino records that can be doctored. My satisfaction involved someone I know and trust (possibly myself) witnessing and maybe recording a months' worth of Mdawg play and lets just see if it matches or even comes close to matching any months worth of play he has claimed over the last 5 years.

These challenges are all fair. I am giving up something I am opposed to in two of them. The third I am agreeing to Mdawgs terms, just on a longer month long period instead of individual session.

Let's see if he is man enough to accept any? I made this an individual thread so I can periodically bump it to remind of his cowardness to accept.

Edit: I would accept Dan Druff's radio show as an alternative to Wizards stream, although I would like Wizard to be free to participate and express his opinions, which he has been restricted from doing. maybe we can get Mike and Axelwolf, along with Mdawg and myself on Druff's show. That way no one need show their face. I am sure details can be worked out.

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Bump

When it comes to FraudJ, "When you ain't got nothing, you got nothing to lose."

Lets just see if you have any answers, other than your bag of insults to offer.

At WoV a couple members asked how Mdawg has been able to win for 5+ years and still be welcome to play and get all the comps he claims. A question I have asked for quite a while.

Mdawgs answer was "And I move around enough, have so many casinos at which I play, and I alternate baccarat with blackjack enough so that no one seems to know or care. And at the same time, I’ve brought in many extremely high level players many of whom do nothing but push buttons at slot machines all day long, who have made it clear that they go where I go, that my train and long caboose over all give great value to the casinos".

Ok let's dig into this. Casinos don't know or care that he is winning because he plays both baccarat and blackjack? What kind of freaking nonsense is that? The man claims he plays rated, which he would need to do to get the comps he claims. So his win and losses are right there on the computer screen. Also moving around between multiple casinos is only cover if you are not playing rated. If you are playing rated, all that information travels with you.

And that casinos don't care is just the biggest bag of nonsense this guys sells. Casinos care about winning players! Period. That is why they go to the extremes they do to stop real winning players. And individual pit folks care, because their jobs depend on caring. This not caring stuff is just nonsense.

Now, Mdawg bringing in many high level players (whales) that presumably lose more than he wins, is something new to the story. I would like to give him the opportunity to explain such a revelation.

Or he can just continue to deflect and call people names and troll. :rolleyes:

Kj, when you posted you were dead, was that truthful?

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

That is why they go to the extremes they do to stop real winning players.

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DRich's experience contradicts your conjecture.

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Originally Posted by DRich

Unless the casinos believe that you are doing something nefarious they will continue to do whatever it takes to continue to get you to play at their place. At the highest levels they understand the math and past performance has no bearing on future performance. They probably have scrutinized the bettor and not found anything suspicious. Let them keep playing and eventually the math will kick in.

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Originally Posted by Ray Finkle

Kj, when you posted you were dead, was that truthful?

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No, it wasn't Ray Finkle. And people have given me shit for 12 years over that. So why do none of you guys say anything about Mdawg?

AND me lying about being dead, for whatever reason I may have had, didn't affect anyone else, did it? It didn't serve to mislead other players so they might to emulate my death. Mdawgs claims do potentially harm other players.

If you or someone else wants to step up with a disclaimer that these claims by Mdawg are just tall tales, then hell yes, I can and will take a break and not have to be the lone voice doing so. Even if some of you only occasionally say so, I would be satisfied.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Mdawg doesn't answer legit questions from me, or Axelwolf or anyone else.

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MDawg answers many questions, but if he doesn't answer a specific question then you should assume that he considers the matter to be none of your business.

You must understand the concept that there may be questions asked that are not deserving of a response, because you ignore many questions yourself.

The fact that the questions are asked during a live steam or podcast won't change their classification from NOYB.

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Originally Posted by Ray Finkle

Kj, when you posted you were dead, was that truthful?

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No, it wasn't Ray Finkle. And people have given me shit for 12 years over that. So why do none of you guys say anything about Mdawg?

AND me lying about being dead, for whatever reason I may have had, didn't affect anyone else, did it? It didn't serve to mislead other players so they might to emulate my death. Mdawgs claims do potentially harm other players.

If you or someone else wants to step up with a disclaimer that these claims by Mdawg are just tall tales, then hell yes, I can and will take a break and not have to be the lone voice doing so. Even if some of you only occasionally say so, I would be satisfied.

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People have said this numerous times.

Seek help.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

In fact, even this story doesn't make sense. He's insisting the backrooming really happened, but just the lawsuit part of it was fake. He said he told that lie in order to protect his privacy. Huh?? How does adding a fake postscript to the story protect your privacy?

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Originally Posted by MDawg

How did it protect your privacy to lie there UNKewlJ, how? :o

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I am not going to tell you about the very concerns I didn't want going public to begin with

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Ah, well, saying nothing is better than this crap you tried a few minutes ago:

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I made up that timeline and lawsuit portion because details of the settlement were about to become known.

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Oh so, on a matter where you're worried that the details are about to come out, which you don't even explain why that would matter (including because your latest story is that all this happened a long time ago anyway), you suddenly come to the forums and tell a gaggle of online people about this matter yourself and then make up that there was a lawsuit behind it. But finally tell us that EVERYTHING HAPPENED EXACTLY THE WAY I CLAIMED other than the lawsuit.

And HOW does that prevent the details coming out? Or change anything? How does lying to a group of a dozen people change in any way what was about to become known? When you disclosed it all yourself anyway?

Which, in the end, the reason nothing became known (other than the lies you posted) is because nothing ever happened.

Truly,

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You can't get to the truth with a fraud.

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I would be satisfied.

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I don't want to hear some heroic noble BS about how nobody's going to run me off BS. I'm not an idiot, that's not what this is about.

If I had to ask myself and wonder why someone would stay and keep taking a pounding while taking into account all the bad things they claim have happened to them....

I would have to guess that it's all BS, therefore nothing bad has ever happened to them, and therefore there's no real reason to leave/ stop.

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So why do none of you guys say anything about Mdawg?

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Because everybody doesn't say everything about everybody else, and besides...you're a proven and admitted liar.

MDawg catches plenty of abuse, but none for being a proven or admitted liar.

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Kj, when you posted you were dead, was that truthful?

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No, it wasn't Ray Finkle. And people have given me shit for 12 years over that. So why do none of you guys say anything about Mdawg?

AND me lying about being dead, for whatever reason I may have had, didn't affect anyone else, did it? It didn't serve to mislead other players so they might to emulate my death. Mdawgs claims do potentially harm other players.

If you or someone else wants to step up with a disclaimer that these claims by Mdawg are just tall tales, then hell yes, I can and will take a break and not have to be the lone voice doing so. Even if some of you only occasionally say so, I would be satisfied.

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Ok
So you're a liar.
Got it...

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Kj, when you posted you were dead, was that truthful?

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No, it wasn't Ray Finkle. And people have given me shit for 12 years over that. So why do none of you guys say anything about Mdawg?

AND me lying about being dead, for whatever reason I may have had, didn't affect anyone else, did it? It didn't serve to mislead other players so they might to emulate my death. Mdawgs claims do potentially harm other players.

If you or someone else wants to step up with a disclaimer that these claims by Mdawg are just tall tales, then hell yes, I can and will take a break and not have to be the lone voice doing so. Even if some of you only occasionally say so, I would be satisfied.

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People have said this numerous times.

Seek help.

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Or as those of us that really surf say, Seakelp.....

What the fuck is wrong with you stupid fucking assholes?

Why continue to flame KJ when the dawg clearly has lied much more?

The guy has a walking "Kick Me" sign on his keester and you'd rather take shots at the gay guy?

Bunch of fucking dildos...

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Originally Posted by MisterV

What the fuck is wrong with you stupid fucking assholes?

Why continue to flame KJ when the dawg clearly has lied much more?

The guy has a walking "Kick Me" sign on his keester and you'd rather take shots at the gay guy?

Bunch of fucking dildos...

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Fair enough.
Did kj lie when he said he was dead?

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What the fuck is wrong with you stupid fucking assholes?

Why continue to flame KJ when the dawg clearly has lied much more?

The guy has a walking "Kick Me" sign on his keester and you'd rather take shots at the gay guy?

Bunch of fucking dildos...

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Fair enough.
Did kj lie when he said he was dead?

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Hello.....

What's worse to be an outed pathological liar, or the sidekick to an outed pathological liar.

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I think kewlJ doesn't understand why so many people here dislike him.

It's not just that he lies. We've had lots of liars on this forum.

It's the seriousness with which kewlJ tells these lies, and then lashes out at those who doubt them. There's a certain arrogance to those posts, in the tone, "Of course this is fucking true, and you're a complete idiot for even doubting this."

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Until of course he gets caught, and then he skulks off for a (short) while until he returns. To lie some more.

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Then, when the forum userbase turns out to be smarter than he expected and disproves some of them, we get the mea culpa that he wasn't telling the truth all along. Fessing up only gets you credit if you do it before people take apart the lie and prove otherwise. You get even less credit if you were arrogant/combative/condescending during the questioning of the story's veracity.

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Here is what Mdawg has reported for 2023 so far:

6 trips to Las Vegas, totaling 141 comped nights in high end suites.

Every trip a significantly winning trip.

104 sessions. 87 winning sessions, 17 losing.

Total won $652,000

And this was less play and winning that the previous 4 years. One year, one trip alone lasted 200+ days

The man claims he plays rated, which would be necessary to receive the comps that he claims, so casino know all of this.

When asked how or why they allow this he says casinos don't care. Newsflash: Casinos do care!

This shit should be called out, and every time he continues to tell this nonsense. It isn't about me and any dislike of me, that some of you want to make it about. It is just about bullshit claims that could potentially harm other players that might try to emulate.

I am not jealous of Mdawg. If he was really able to win nearly a million dollars a year from casinos, I would be happy for him because I dislike casinos and the casino industry so much. But this is just bullshit.

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It is about you lying constantly !!!!

This whole math thing. Let me tell you something, Kewl. To the sharper people on here it becomes increasingly apparently that you based your whole facade around being believable. Where the math "works". When you're in a really bad spot you fall back on the "why don't you believe me because the math works". It is sad. I'm not sure what drives you to continue with this charade.

Anyone thinking I am bullying this dude REMEMBER he just threatened to dox someone. In addition, even though he calls people "sand n" when it suits him - he threatened to call the local news station to put pressure on Druff.

Kewl, the improbability of what all you have claimed is 0. Absolutely 0. This is why we get annoyed with you. Go find some other forum to give everyone gambling advice. JFC

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The "casinos don't care" comments are complete bullshit. As a player that works hard to be able to play (and that involves playing unrated), I am insulted by this nonsense.

And today, he changed stories and came up with that he brings other higher rolling losing players to the casino, so that is why he is allowed to play and win. This is not impossible, but I don't believe it. He has never mentioned this angle before and it contradicts what he has previously said.

The "casinos don't care" comments are complete bullshit. As a player that works hard to be able to play (and that involves playing unrated), I am insulted by this nonsense.

And today, he changed stories and came up with that he brings other higher rolling losing players to the casino, so that is why he is allowed to play and win. This is not impossible, but I don't believe it. He has never mentioned this angle before and it contradicts what he has previously said.

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You can't stop lying can you?

You're getting the same treatment you profess to give others. Grow up. You thinking you can have it both ways is typical.

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What's "fascinating" too is how when comps are discussed, UNKewLyingJ comes in to mention that he regularly gets free rooms for his friends (what friends?!)

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If you are playing rated, even noted on your account.

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and introduces the ol' THAT'S not how it works, statement, but when it suits him, he talks about how he never plays rated at all.

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KJ is different because (1) I initially believed him, more or less, and (2) he is imo a complete fraud. I don't mean a liar, I mean a complete fraud, like catfish style. And that is not something you see every day and is really kind of fascinating.

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He has never mentioned this angle before and it contradicts what he has previously said.

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He's written about bringing in other players before today.

Your reaction is exactly why certain questions are better ignored as NOYB...he gave a reason, you don't believe it because you claim that he never mentioned it until today, even though he did mention it before today.

Your reasoning is all FUBAR.

Your questions are not deserving of a response...here, on Shack's livestream, or on Druff's podcast.

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What the fuck is wrong with you stupid fucking assholes?

Why continue to flame KJ when the dawg clearly has lied much more?

The guy has a walking "Kick Me" sign on his keester and you'd rather take shots at the gay guy?

Bunch of fucking dildos...

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Fair enough.
Did kj lie when he said he was dead?

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Hello.....

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Yes, and he's owned it and explained why he did.

Contrast it with the wholly unrepentent dawg, who lies daily and you people, in your zeal to "get the fag, get the fag" give the tick-infested hound a bye.

Fucking unbelievable.

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What's "fascinating" too is how when comps are discussed, UNKewLyingJ comes in to mention that he regularly gets free rooms for his friends (what friends?!) and introduces the ol' THAT'S not how it works, statement, but when it suits him, he talks about how he never plays rated at all.

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You are lying again.

I have explained how and why I did different things over the years. I play blackjack unrated, with the exception of some kind of promotion. But for years I and then my partner played video poker supplementing my blackjack income. We were doing the simplest of plays, the mailer game, where a certain amount of coin in generates mailer offers that make the whole play +EV. That play had to be rated to generate the mailer offers. And a side benefit was room offers which I rarely used unless friends or relatives were coming to town AND enough points to pay for our lunches for most of those years.

Anybody that has read anything I shared knows this. You are just playing games and intentionally lying and trying totwist things. That is all you can do.

Now, see how I was able to just explain that? I have done that for years with anyone who questions anything about what I have done, including people like blackhole that were only trolling. Just like every other real player and AP, I can answer any questions that arise. Occasionally it is something I don't want to share, so I won't answer, but I can.

And that is the difference between me and you or even me and singer. I can answer questions or challenges. You guys can't. So you start calling people names instead. That alone is a huge tell that your adventure is just bullshit. EVERY SINGLE person that questions or challenges anything, you call names and attack. EVERY SINGLE person is a drunk, or drug addict, or failed this or that. If your "story" was real, you would be able to calmly answer and explain things without all the juvenile name calling.

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What's "fascinating" too is how when comps are discussed, UNKewLyingJ comes in to mention that he regularly gets free rooms for his friends (what friends?!) and introduces the ol' THAT'S not how it works, statement, but when it suits him, he talks about how he never plays rated at all.

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You are lying again.

I have explained how and why I did different things over the years. I play blackjack unrated, with the exception of some kind of promotion. But for years I and then my partner played video poker supplementing my blackjack income. We were doing the simplest of plays, the mailer game, where a certain amount of coin in generates mailer offers that make the whole play +EV. That play had to be rated to generate the mailer offers. And a side benefit was room offers which I rarely used unless friends or relatives were coming to town AND enough points to pay for our lunches for most of those years.

Anybody that has read anything I shared knows this. You are just playing games and intentionally lying and trying totwist things. That is all you can do.

Now, see how I was able to just explain that? I have done that for years with anyone who questions anything about what I have done, including people like blackhole that were only trolling. Just like every other real player and AP, I can answer any questions that arise. Occasionally it is something I don't want to share, so I won't answer, but I can.

And that is the difference between me and you or even me and singer. I can answer questions or challenges. You guys can't. So you start calling people names instead. That alone is a huge tell that your adventure is just bullshit. EVERY SINGLE person that questions or challenges anything, you call names and attack. EVERY SINGLE person is a drunk, or drug addict, or failed this or that. If your "story" was real, you would be able to calmly answer and explain things without all the juvenile name calling.

This forum is today reeling under the combined weight of FraudJ's whining and lies, such that it's hard to even login or post. ;)

Being someone who's not yet commented on but just read this entire thread, there are several themes that ready jump out.

First, WTF is wrong with you MrV? You're reading hallucinations! See what drugs do to you?

Second, this thread is just another of kew's weak and silly attempts at diverting and deflecting attention away from what a lying fraud he's always been. Kew already knows he's been challenged multiple times to proves some of the easiest of claims, yet he always runs into his safe space and hides. And everyone agrees he should prove at least ONE of his lies before mdawg acts. But that's the tactic kew employed here as anyone either eyes can see--he knows the community will demand something from him first which, of course, he cannot do since he lives a life of lies. So his phony challenges will go unanswered, which was the purpose of this thread.

Next, any reader easily gets the theme that, aside from Timothy Leary, kew has exactly NO believers and garners zero respect. No wonder the fairy posts so much and so often---he can't stop trying to convince everyone else about his lies.

Next, I've always wondered when others were going to call him out f ok r his constant lying about "other LV AP's know this and that sbout him" and "he's been involved with teams" etc. etc. etc. There are some of the more recognized LV AP's here and on WoV and whatever other forums kew masturbates to and THEY know many more. Yet no one's ever heard of this little twit in real settings? That alone gives all the credence in the world to kew being no t hing but a lying fraud.

Finally, believe it or not, kew has made himself look even more ridiculous, weaker, and a bigger liar and a fraud than he was before he was dumb enuf to start this thread.

In Yemen, they stone public liars.

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for years I and then my partner played video poker supplementing my blackjack income. We were doing the simplest of plays, the mailer game, where a certain amount of coin in generates mailer offers that make the whole play +EV. That play had to be rated to generate the mailer offers. And a side benefit was room offers which I rarely used unless friends or relatives were coming to town AND enough points to pay for our lunches for most of those years.

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I made just over 60k from blackjack play. This year my other AP is almost as much as my blackjack as I have had 3 other forms of advantage play

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I can answer questions or challenges.

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Did you play rated for your AP play this year?

Can you break down how much you profitted on each of the 3 forms of non-Blackjack AP?

What total wager was required to generate almost 60K from non-Blackjack AP?

Have you received mailer offers, including room offers, for your rated play this year?

Have you invited any friends or relatives to stay in your comped rooms this year?

Being someone who's not yet commented on but just read this entire thread, there are several themes that readily jump out.

First, WTF is wrong with you MrV? You're reading hallucinations! See what drugs do to you?

Second, this thread is just another of kew's weak and silly attempts at diverting and deflecting attention away from what a lying fraud he's always been. Kew already knows he's been challenged multiple times to proves some of the easiest of claims, yet he always runs into his safe space and hides. And everyone agrees he should prove at least ONE of his lies before mdawg acts. But that's the tactic kew employed here as anyone with eyes can see--he knows the community will demand something from him first which, of course, he cannot do since he lives a life of lies. So his phony challenges will go unanswered, which was the purpose of this thread.

Next, any reader easily gets the idea that, aside from Timothy Leary, kew has exactly NO believers and garners zero respect. No wonder the fairy posts so much and so often---he can't stop trying to convince everyone else about his lies.

Next, I've always wondered when others were going to call him out for his constant lying about "other LV AP's know this and that sbout him" and "he's been involved with teams" etc. etc. etc. There are some of the more recognized LV AP's here and on WoV and whatever other forums kew masturbates to and THEY know many more. Yet no one's ever heard of this little twit in real settings? That alone gives all the credence in the world to kew being nothing but a lying fraud.

Finally, believe it or not, kew has made himself look even more ridiculous, weaker, and a bigger liar and a fraud than he was before he was dumb enuf to start this thread.

In Yemen, they stone public liars.

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And everyone agrees he should prove at least ONE of his lies before mdawg acts.

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He needs to get Shack & Druff to agree to any of this before MD even considers it.

That means a declarative post from them, detailing their participation.

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Being someone who's not yet commented on but just read this entire thread, there are several themes that ready jump out.

First, WTF is wrong with you MrV? You're reading hallucinations! See what drugs do to you?

Second, this thread is just another of kew's weak and silly attempts at diverting and deflecting attention away from what a lying fraud he's always been. Kew already knows he's been challenged multiple times to proves some of the easiest of claims, yet he always runs into his safe space and hides. And everyone agrees he should prove at least ONE of his lies before mdawg acts. But that's the tactic kew employed here as anyone either eyes can see--he knows the community will demand something from him first which, of course, he cannot do since he lives a life of lies. So his phony challenges will go unanswered, which was the purpose of this thread.

Next, any reader easily gets the theme that, aside from Timothy Leary, kew has exactly NO believers and garners zero respect. No wonder the fairy posts so much and so often---he can't stop trying to convince everyone else about his lies.

Next, I've always wondered when others were going to call him out f ok r his constant lying about "other LV AP's know this and that sbout him" and "he's been involved with teams" etc. etc. etc. There are some of the more recognized LV AP's here and on WoV and whatever other forums kew masturbates to and THEY know many more. Yet no one's ever heard of this little twit in real settings? That alone gives all the credence in the world to kew being no t hing but a lying fraud.

Finally, believe it or not, kew has made himself look even more ridiculous, weaker, and a bigger liar and a fraud than he was before he was dumb enuf to start this thread.

In Yemen, they stone public liars.

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Good try Rob. :D

Are you saying I should prove something because YOU have proven so many of your bullshit claims over the years? Umm...NOT A SINGLE ONE. :D What is it that Alan said when he finally saw the light about you? "always and excuse, but never any proof". There were some doosies in there about not keeping tax records and shit. The only thing missing was "the dog ate the records". ;)

Now, that said, I have always defended you in that you, are not required to prove anything. No one is. No one is on trial. Just have your story fucking make sense and not defy reality and how things work or be something out of the twilight zone.

AND I am not asking Mdawg to prove anything either. Just be able to explain somethings that don't make sense that people question. What is so hard about that? :confused: Not a damn thing if you are telling the truth.

But that is not what we get from you Rob, nor Mdawg. Because you can't answer, we get name calling and bullshit like a fucking retard.

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Now, that said, I have always defended you in that you, are not required to prove anything. No one is. No one is on trial. Just have your story fucking make sense and not defy reality and how things work or be something out of the twilight zone.

AND I am not asking Mdawg to prove anything either.

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He can't help but repeat his twenty established lies, again and again.

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The twenty most major UNKewl lies I can think of concern (1) his lie about Moses showing up at a condo he claimed he lived at, (2) a condo it turned out that he has no ownership in and does not even live in, (3) his faking his own death, (4) lying about ever having been robbed, (5) the nonsense about MGM execs showing up at his apartment on Halloween to give him player records on someone who isn't even MDawg, (6) the backrooming lawsuit, (7) the lie about being doxxed, or ever having his name placed in any casino database, (8) the rigged shuffler, (9) $50. free play for $100K win on a slot progressive, (10) $50K multi hand VP hit, (11) winning a car, (12) the lie about never asking anyone else to prove anything, (13) the lie about knowing attorney Nersesian well or at all, and having him on "speed dial," (14) lies that made it clear that he has never filed taxes as a professional gambler, (15) fabricated sports bets, (16) lies about that he has calculated his exact "expected win" over a decade and a half period, (17) lies about ever playing blackjack other than red green chip action as cover for a sugar daddy hustle, (18) lies about the "oily" surfboard, (19) lied about whether or not he was gay, (20) the lie about even having a dead "soul mate" which he recanted.

That rigged shuffler story, besides not making any sense, reaffirmed in my mind that this guy really doesn't play much table games, because I'd expect such nonsense from a recreational player, not a card counter.

And as usual, as he gets hemmed in, he is changing the story on some of these. Even renounced the existence of his "soul mate" claims he lied about him and his gay marriage too!

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In the past UNKewlJ has pushed RobSinger to provide proof to the Dandruff man,
https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post105150

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Now in answer to DanDruff's request for that same info, Rob is just going with a "No, I don't want to do that".

It just is not credible that Rob just had to tell someone, so badly, but yet refuses to provide any supporting documentation that would support his extraordinary claim.

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and stated that failure to do so, failure to be willing to provide proof to someone like Dan Druff AFTER talking about whatever online, represents lack of credibility.

And as V pointed out,

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KJ, enough.

It is YOU who is putting yourself out there and making the claim

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so, just like what UNKewlJ said about RobSinger, that because he "had to tell someone," he should be willing to back up what he said, so should the UNKewl one follow his own demand and prove up what he has said.

Before that occasion when he kept pushing RobSinger to provide proof to DanDruff (and made a big deal out of that he didn't meet up with him / didn't provide any proof), UNKewlJ kept pushing for MDawg to play at a table in front of DanDruff or to at least meet him in Vegas, including for example here,

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So MDawg posts this fantasy stuff on numerous forum and now both Wizard and Dan Druff have requested to meet him and observe his play. He refused wizard and will refuse Druff as well.

But it is very appropriate for these forum owners who provide the platform for this "adventure" to say "ENOUGH...show me".

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to prove that he's for real, which was before I'd played in front of Wizard in the DarkOz Challenge.
UNKewlJ also loves to quote the DanDruff man with conviction, stating that Druff speaks with authority,

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Dan Druff simply shares his expert opinion of what the truth is. he has been on these forums for a very long time and knows how to read people.

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Basically, this hypocrite whatever he accuses others of, you may be assured that he's done himself first, and worse. In the end, he can't come up with any reason for his not wanting to prove up his backrooming lawsuit story, other than that no proof exists. We are, after all, talking about a guy who, as AccountInQuestion has put it, is in a Neverending quest for street creds on the internet.
, so it makes no sense that someone so desperate to be believed would not put up, since obviously he's not ever going to shut up. If he wanted no one to know, he would not have put the story out there in the first place.

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explain somethings that don't make sense that people question. What is so hard about that?

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What is so hard about asking the questions right here?

People question him on WOV every day, he doesn't reply with insults.

Here is another question for you to tap dance around MDawg. What is so terrible about allowing Michael Shackleford, aka Wizard, who's forum you have posted this bullshit on for 5 years, express his opinion? He is a respected gambling math expert. Why would there need be a non disclosure agreement forbidding him to speak?

If what you are claiming is real and can stand up to scrutiny and reality, you would welcome Wizards opinion.

For all we know, maybe Mike will say that he believes you have discovered the Holy grail if gambling.

Think of this: what better way to shut me and others questioning your claims, than to allow wizard to speak and say he believes you are legit?

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If what you are claiming is real and can stand up to scrutiny and reality, you would welcome Wizards opinion.

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He already knows the Wizard's opinion.

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What is so terrible about allowing Michael Shackleford, aka Wizard, who's forum you have posted this bullshit on for 5 years, express his opinion?

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The question cannot be answered as written. Your premise, that something is terrible, is incorrect.

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Why would there need be a non disclosure agreement forbidding him to speak?

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Your question attempts to identify information that, by agreement, shall not be disclosed.

This concerns an agreement that you are not involved in, and therefore is none of your business.

Sometimes I think this whole thing is a ploy for kewl to learn mdawg's methods so he can branch out.

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Sometimes I think this whole thing is a ploy for kewl to learn mdawg's methods so he can branch out.

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Mdawgs Method? :D:D:D:D

There is a better chance that some flying reindeer pull some fat guy in a sled all around the world in a single night than that Mdawg has some winning "method". :rolleyes:

Mdawgs "method" is he gambles, loses (long-term) and is comped accordingly.

Mdawgs "method" is the casinos dream. He is exactly the kind of gambler the casinos were built for. Willing to lose money in exchange for some over-inflated comps and gifts.

Well then, there is no need for you to speak further then, since you've convinced yourself on the subject.

Except that...

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How many times does he need to suffer thru "It just isn't fair that MDawg gets to claim he wins all the time with comps, gifts and special treatment, and he gets support & cover from Benedict Shack and other Richard Potatoes from the gaming forums' group of administrators!" "Can't you people see how much this HURTS me when I can't do anything about it?"

Yes....kew IS the architect of his own suffering. While other disbelievers aren't affected one bit by what MDawg does or says, kew let's it get so far under his skin that it's beginning to spell I AM A FOOL all over his wimpy body

How about some truth about his obsession for a refreshing change. Kew is so extraordinarily jealous of the guy because he knows he has wealth far beyond anything kew will ever see. He also despises him for being normal and not being afflicted with that short circuit in his brain. Covering up this ball of envy with rambling posts of "I'm an educator on LV gambling operation, and I say THAT'S NOT HOW THIS CITY WORKS!"

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#1 with this guy is how you can almost SEE & FEEL the puny little twit jumping up and down, screaming like a toddler who just got his baba taken away by a big bad bully. Bonus #2? He posts long-winded, rambling drama-laced "I NEED TO set the record straight or I'll go OUT OF MY MIND!" paragraphs that never seem to satisfy, as he then repeats the same things over and over again.

Best to just ask kew how close he is to faking his own death again.

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Kj, when you posted you were dead, was that truthful?

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No, it wasn't Ray Finkle. And people have given me shit for 12 years over that. So why do none of you guys say anything about Mdawg?

AND me lying about being dead, for whatever reason I may have had, didn't affect anyone else, did it? It didn't serve to mislead other players so they might to emulate my death. Mdawgs claims do potentially harm other players.

If you or someone else wants to step up with a disclaimer that these claims by Mdawg are just tall tales, then hell yes, I can and will take a break and not have to be the lone voice doing so. Even if some of you only occasionally say so, I would be satisfied.

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How about when you claimed to not be gay and denied the existence of your soulmate husband? Nobody can get to the truth with a tunnel dwelling fraud anti-Trump fag....RIP

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How about when you claimed to not be gay and denied the existence of your soulmate husband? Nobody can get to the truth with a tunnel dwelling fraud fag....RIP

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You forgot his new label of Anti-Trumper.
Trumps Marketing is so good that he got 85% of people believing and or calling themselves MAGA or Anti-Trumpers lol.
Trump is not a Religion or Ideology you goofs.
You don't go to the Church of Trump.
There is no such thing as the Holy Book of Trump.
There is no such thing as the Trumpian Party lol.
You people are dumb.

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The "casinos don't care" comments are complete bullshit. As a player that works hard to be able to play (and that involves playing unrated), I am insulted by this nonsense.

And today, he changed stories and came up with that he brings other higher rolling losing players to the casino, so that is why he is allowed to play and win. This is not impossible, but I don't believe it. He has never mentioned this angle before and it contradicts what he has previously said.

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Every now and then you get a new piece to the MDawg puzzle. Maybe one day it will be solved. But for now he has 10x more credibility than you. People know him, people have seen him play, he's actually profited from a non-believer, and has had no one step up to claim supposed free money if they don't believe a story told about a session or whatever.

Meanwhile you have absolutely nothing substantiated....RIP

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How about when you claimed to not be gay and denied the existence of your soulmate husband? Nobody can get to the truth with a tunnel dwelling fraud anti-Trump fag....RIP

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You forgot his new label of Anti-Trumper.
Trumps Marketing is so good that he got 85% of people believing and or calling themselves MAGA or Anti-Trumpers lol.
Trump is not a Religion or Ideology you goofs.
You don't go to the Church of Trump.
There is no such thing as the Holy Book of Trump.
There is no such thing as the Trumpian Party lol.
You people are dumb.

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I fixed it :D

Let me know if you need any other changes.

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Every now and then you get a new piece to the MDawg puzzle. Maybe one day it will be solved. But for now he has 10x more credibility than you. People know him, people have seen him play, he's actually profited from a non-believer, and has had no one step up to claim supposed free money if they don't believe a story told about a session or whatever.

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Then what is the problem with allowing Shackleford to voice his opinion. If everything you say is true what would Mdawg be sooo afraid of that he would have even demanded such a thing?

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Every now and then you get a new piece to the MDawg puzzle. Maybe one day it will be solved. But for now he has 10x more credibility than you. People know him, people have seen him play, he's actually profited from a non-believer, and has had no one step up to claim supposed free money if they don't believe a story told about a session or whatever.

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Pigpen, if you are so sure that Mdawg is winning as he claims, that you are willing to all but vouch for him, how come you haven't shared your top-secret knowledge with your friend Axelwolf? As recently as a couple hours ago Axelwolf is still questioning and challenging Mdawgs claims. :confused:

Could it be that you don't know shit, nor even believe anything yourself, but are just willing to pretend you do in the name of trolling?

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Every now and then you get a new piece to the MDawg puzzle. Maybe one day it will be solved. But for now he has 10x more credibility than you. People know him, people have seen him play, he's actually profited from a non-believer, and has had no one step up to claim supposed free money if they don't believe a story told about a session or whatever.

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Then what is the problem with allowing Shackleford to voice his opinion. If everything you say is true what would Mdawg be sooo afraid of that he would have even demanded such a thing?

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Who says he's afraid of anything? You,?, a proven liar that thus far has proven nothing. You had a chance to double your supposed settlement already. You failed to take advantage. You look like a fool. The only one who doesn't see it is MrV and maybe jbjb.

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Who says he's afraid of anything?

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So then Mdawg will release Shackleford from the NDA and allow him to share his expert opinion?

It is one or the other. Either he is willing to do so or he is afraid of what Shackleford will say.

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

Every now and then you get a new piece to the MDawg puzzle. Maybe one day it will be solved. But for now he has 10x more credibility than you. People know him, people have seen him play, he's actually profited from a non-believer, and has had no one step up to claim supposed free money if they don't believe a story told about a session or whatever.

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Pigpen, if you are so sure that Mdawg is winning as he claims, that you are willing to all but vouch for him, how come you haven't shared your top-secret knowledge with your friend Axelwolf? As recently as a couple hours ago Axelwolf is still questioning and challenging Mdawgs claims. :confused:

Could it be that you don't know shit, nor even believe anything yourself, but are just willing to pretend you do in the name of trolling?

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It would not be unusual for me to not share info with anyone. Just ask Axel. He will tell you that I probably wouldn't. Do you really think people just run around telling people they are friends with everything they know? That is definitely not how the AP world works...lol

The one thing people are usually willing to share is who they know and are familiar with, if asked. All other stuff is a matter of situation and subjectiveness.There so far is no one that is familiar with you other than your online presence and a few sightings in environments that don't match your main storyline.

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You,?, a proven liar that thus far has proven nothing.

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That is correct, I have on a couple of occasions lied to protect myself from people, specifically the person we are discussing from discovering more information about me that he could again use to dox and harm me. What of it? I make no apology for that.

And what exactly have you even proven Maxpen? Other than that you will lie about people just for the sake of trolling. And you proved that long before you turned your sights on me. You have proven that for years with mickeycrimm.

You may be an AP doing things or have done things I can't even comprehend, buy on this forum you have proven yourself to be a troll, not all that different than Rob Singer.

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You,?, a proven liar that thus far has proven nothing.

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That is correct, I have on a couple of occasions lied to protect myself from people, specifically the person we are discussing from discovering more information about me that he could again use to dox and harm me. What of it?

And what exactly have you even proven Maxpen? Other than that you will lie about people just for the sake of trolling. And you proved that long before you turned your sights on me. You have proven that for years with mickeycrimm.

You may be an AP doing things or have done things I can't even comprehend, buy on this forum you have proven yourself to be a troll, not all that different than Rob Singer.

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I don't need to supply any credentials. I don't claim anything on these forums for the most part. Unfortunately, or maybe not, depending on how you look at it there are dozens of people in the AP world who know me personally. Some know more than others. The one thing you won't find is one that will claim I am a fraud or a liar.

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Every now and then you get a new piece to the MDawg puzzle. Maybe one day it will be solved. But for now he has 10x more credibility than you. People know him, people have seen him play, he's actually profited from a non-believer, and has had no one step up to claim supposed free money if they don't believe a story told about a session or whatever.

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Pigpen, if you are so sure that Mdawg is winning as he claims, that you are willing to all but vouch for him, how come you haven't shared your top-secret knowledge with your friend Axelwolf? As recently as a couple hours ago Axelwolf is still questioning and challenging Mdawgs claims. :confused:

Could it be that you don't know shit, nor even believe anything yourself, but are just willing to pretend you do in the name of trolling?

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It would not be unusual for me to not share info with anyone. Just ask Axel. He will tell you that I probably wouldn't. Do you really think people just run around telling people they are friends with everything they know? That is definitely not how the AP world works...lol

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Dude we are not talking about withholding an AP play from an AP friend. Of course that happens. We are talking about next to myself, Axelwolf has probably been the biggest and most vocal Mdawg critic for the entire length of this silly story. If you really knew something that gave you reason to believe Axelwolf is/was wrong, you would have told him so.

That fact that you didn't means you are just here playing and trolling.

Just step back and look at your behavior. You have made up stories about Homelessness and living in tunnels and repeated homophobic attacks and shit about male prostitute and sugardaddy shit.

Throughout you attacks and lying have I made up or said any shit like that about you? You are way over the line of decency and just normal behavior.

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Pigpen, if you are so sure that Mdawg is winning as he claims, that you are willing to all but vouch for him, how come you haven't shared your top-secret knowledge with your friend Axelwolf? As recently as a couple hours ago Axelwolf is still questioning and challenging Mdawgs claims. :confused:

Could it be that you don't know shit, nor even believe anything yourself, but are just willing to pretend you do in the name of trolling?

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It would not be unusual for me to not share info with anyone. Just ask Axel. He will tell you that I probably wouldn't. Do you really think people just run around telling people they are friends with everything they know? That is definitely not how the AP world works...lol

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Dude we are not talking about withholding an AP play from an AP friend. Of course that happens. We are talking about next to myself, Axelwolf has probably been the biggest and most vocal Mdawg critic for the entire length of this silly story. If you really knew something that gave you reason to believe Axelwolf is/was wrong, you would have told him so.

That fact that you didn't means you are just here playing and trolling.

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That's your perception :rolleyes:

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Fair enough.
Did kj lie when he said he was dead?

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Yes, and he's owned it and explained why he did.

Contrast it with the wholly unrepentent dawg, who lies daily and you people, in your zeal to "get the fag, get the fag" give the tick-infested hound a bye.

Fucking unbelievable.

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Your perspective is different because you are not an actual AP. People say nothing about mdawg because few give any shits. He is written off. Kewl on the other hand has made up stories that could impact people. Mdawg will only impact idiots. He doesn't say how he wins so ... people are going to be like .. oh this hmguy kills it so it must be possible. I just need to play and figure out his secret. Not likely.

Kewl just jealous of other liars who go for the gold.

I gave kewl a chance to admit his shuffler story is bullshit but he opted for a 'fuck you' or possibly a fuck off.

I agree though that people should possibly have more sympathy for him but ultimately he consistently brings it on his stuff.

I'm not unconvinced you don't have subconscious man-love for him.

Speaking of Blue Moon Monet. Ha.

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---> Between the Moon and Monet's videos.

https://anagram-solver.net/The%20onl...0?partial=true

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Every now and then you get a new piece to the MDawg puzzle. Maybe one day it will be solved. But for now he has 10x more credibility than you. People know him, people have seen him play, he's actually profited from a non-believer, and has had no one step up to claim supposed free money if they don't believe a story told about a session or whatever.

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Pigpen, if you are so sure that Mdawg is winning as he claims, that you are willing to all but vouch for him, how come you haven't shared your top-secret knowledge with your friend Axelwolf? As recently as a couple hours ago Axelwolf is still questioning and challenging Mdawgs claims. :confused:

Could it be that you don't know shit, nor even believe anything yourself, but are just willing to pretend you do in the name of trolling?

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Hold on now, Max never said MD was a winning player or that he believed everything he said, he just said he has more credibility than you.

There are some people who look at M dogs claims the same way people look at a fisherman's tales of the big fish they caught or the one that got away.
I don't know how many people have told me that they are winning gamblers and that they are even professional gamblers and you know God damn well neither is true. Everybody has an uncle who's a professional gambler. It's almost expected that a non-advantage player will inflate his gambling stories and numbers.

Do you get it? I'm not saying you lied or didn't lie, but take this in...

You are supposed to be an Advantage Player. Because of the very nature of gambling/AP/pro-gambling and the amount of trust that is needed in that business (A mostly cash business ) in and of itself, there's a higher expectation expected from a legitimate Advantage Player. So, when and if one is caught telling multiple lies and making up stories, other Advantage Players are offended.

If you're an advantage player and you claim to be an Advantage Player as your main source of income then there is an expectation of honesty and integrity. We do not believe MD is or was ever an actual Advantage player/professional gambler, so very few people care if he's lying about his gambling or not. Many of us believe or did believe that you were/are an AP therefore some people actually care. Advantage Players have a hard enough time as it is (in multiple different areas) so when one is making up lies and not telling the truth, it makes us all look bad. We don't want to be labeled with that car salesman/lawyer-type reputation.

To put it in simple terms no one really gives a rat's ass if MD is lying or not about his adventures but some people do care if you are telling the truth or not.

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Hold on now, Max never said MD was a winning player or that he believed everything he said, he just said he has more credibility than you.

There are some people who look at M dogs claims the same way people look at a fisherman's tales of the big fish they caught or the one that got away.
I don't know how many people have told me that they are winning gamblers and that they are even professional gamblers and you know God damn well neither is true. Everybody has an uncle who's a professional gambler. It's almost expected that a non-advantage player will inflate his gambling stories and numbers.

Do you get it? I'm not saying you lied or didn't lie, but take this in...

You are supposed to be an Advantage Player. Because of the very nature of gambling/AP/pro-gambling and the amount of trust that is needed in that business (A mostly cash business ) in and of itself, there's a higher expectation expected from a legitimate Advantage Player. So, when and if one is caught telling multiple lies and making up stories, other Advantage Players are offended.

If you're an advantage player and you claim to be an Advantage Player as your main source of income then there is an expectation of honesty and integrity. We do not believe MD is or was ever an actual Advantage player/professional gambler, so very few people care if he's lying about his gambling or not. Many of us believe or did believe that you were/are an AP therefore some people actually care. Advantage Players have a hard enough time as it is (in multiple different areas) so when one is making up lies and not telling the truth, it makes us all look bad. We don't want to be labeled with that car salesman/lawyer-type reputation.

To put it in simple terms no one really gives a rat's ass if MD is lying or not about his adventures but some people do care if you are telling the truth or not.

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Yes, my Grandfather was one of those people. A race horse guy who always claimed he was about even lifetime, when I would bet my life, he was nowhere close to even. We all know people like that. But here is the difference. They didn't have a record of their wins in losses in front of them, and may actually believe that. More than anything they are probably lying to themselves as much as anything.

Someone like Mdawg knows damn well he is a losing player being comped accordingly. He can look it up if he really believes otherwise. So when he posts on a forum like this year posting 104 reports of sessions played, 87 winning, 17 losing for a total of $652,000, he is intentionally lying to people. God knows why? :confused:

Axelwolf, you and anyone else can believe whatever you like about me, and for whatever reason. You once wrote something to the effect that you found me very credible because I knew of what I was talking about concerning my area of play, blackjack card counting. You said I had knowledge from experience, not from reading a forum. YOU KNEW the difference. So does Maxpen. He is just pretending he doesn't because of some strange vendetta now. And nothing has changed except some people have decided they don't like me. For some it is the gay thing. For some it is because I never wanted to meet people off line (something I made clear from day one). Now all of the sudden, I am homeless living in the tunnels, and a male prostitute. 3rd Grade bullshit is what that is.

Look, all I ask is if someone is going to make a claim or share something about what they do, 1) make sure the fucking math works. and 2) don't feed us shit about "special plays" or "betting into hot streaks" or that the casinos don't care so they let you spread $100-$5000 playing double deck blackjack for 10 straight hours while you win 60K. Or don't tell us you have played 200 days a year for 5 years, been comped 200 nights a year for 5 years while winning millions of dollars and the casinos allow it because they don't care.

Thats all. There has to be some reality to it. Otherwise it is just more Rob Singer/EvenBob type nonsense. Is that really too much to ask on gambling forums. Dont have claims that defy math and reality and are out there in the twilight zone. If you do that, I have a right to cry "bullshit". Others have that right too. If others don't care, that is their choice. I care and am going to say something.

I lied about the lawsuit part of my backroom incident because I was trying to protect and deflect from information that was coming out about the incident and about me that people....specifically this fucktard Mdawg would use to try to harm me, as he did prior.

Contrast that to the lies this guy has told throughout this ever changing story. At one point a couple years ago he posted play reports every day for 7 straight months. (it was a 7 month vegas trip) in which his wins totaled half a million dollars. And then poof...in one line he wrote "Wizard and I went over my records and I am about even". Give me a fucking break!

What about the bullshit about casinos only give checks for the winnings that YOU (Axelwolf) proved that wrong. You know why he lied about that? It wasn't an accident or because he didn't know. He wanted to post pictures of casino checks claiming they represented winnings when they didn't. Just like he posts pictures of chips, claiming that proves he won, when it proves no such thing.

None of this is by mistake. This is a carefully thought out 5 year scam of a tale of winning when everyone knows he gets those nice comps because he is a regular losing player. Just the kind of gamblers casinos LOVE. Just the players casinos were built for.

I don't know what this 5 year ordeal has been about, just like I don't know why Singer has claimed what he has for 20 years...claim after claim. But these things are NOT the way casinos work and the specific claims usually defy the math.

How many people are on these forums? Real players inclduing many AP's? How many that claim anything where the math works and they are not claiming some twilight zone stuff have I challenged or questioned? ZERO.

Again, all I ask is that the math works and it be the way casinos and the casino industry works and not some jackoff telling tall tales for whatever reason.

lol AxelWolf calls UNKewlJ out for being a thieving lying no good varmint giving genuine “APs” a bad name, and lo and behold another 10X Multiplier response. Two actually.

Just go back to hustling older fat low end sugar daddies, as our Pac Islander resident fraud.

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lol AxelWolf calls UNKewl out for being a thieving lying no good varmint giving genuine “APs” a bad name, and lo and behold another 10X Multiplier response. Two actually.

Just go back to hustling older fat low end sugar daddies, as our Pac Islander resident fraud.

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Kew has reacted in this manner so many times, it makes his own head spin.

Whenever he senses another AP isn't buying his bullshit in-full, or that he might not be shoving his views & beliefs far enuf up other AP's asses so that they're all singing EXACTLY the same tune as he is--kew goes into panic mode and can't stop his foolish efforts to convince them all that they absolutely HAVE to see it his way.

This is the how and the why of his constant long and rambling word ejaculations.

An AP shows that they don't have complete confidence in what he's saying? An AP calls him out for his obvious lies? An AP has a differing opinion than him about a non-AP?.....Here comes another load.

Can anyone imagine self-tormenting oneself as much as this loser does?