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Read it on GF. He was around for decades with his nonsense but he never got in the dirt like most of us. He truly believed he had a system or whatever you want to call it that allowed him to beat the math we all (ok, most of us) know is impossible.
Mr V and a few others will remember him going back to Gamblers Glen and all the roulette forums filled with scammers and dreamers.
Appears he was 55 when he passed last December and there is speculation without proof he took his own life. Who knows?
I know Nathan Detroit at GF died recently, as reported by his daughter. But at apparently a ripe old age (94).
55 is too young. Sorry to hear that, especially if it was one of those "died unexpectedly" type things.
Yea Nathan was a forum vet but as you said was old. Those Roulette guys were around for decades going back to the alt. days on user net. And they argued back and forth over their systems. One could say the trolling wars started back them.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
As we have discussed here over the years many posters will pass and for the most part we will never know. They just stop posting and who knows what happened to them. WoV has more than a few over the years that I wondered what happened to.
Some of us have made acquaintances with others and personally I know my wife would let a few know if something happened to me. Others will just go away anonymously other than a few questioning what happened to them.
And yea, 55 is way too early to go.
In 100 years it won't matter which of us died young or old. But right now, it definitely does if you're alive and people younger than you whom you knew are already dead because they are missing out on all the things you are still doing, year after year.
They might be having a better time than all of us in the Afterlife, but no one knows that with the certainty that we know they are missing out on life.
Pretty sure that if you don't take the time, and, make the effort, to figure "it" out, before you die, then you're not going to luck into "it", after you're dead, in the sense that you're no longer around to enjoy, or not, something.
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54 ------> That would have been "neat", had it been 55, to go with TG's supposed age, and, my avatar.
Garnabby, you were a regular poster back in the day at Gamblers Glen, I suspect you interacted more with Turbogenius than I did.
From what I recall he was very talkative and sure of his method.
As for "where are they now" I wonder whatever happened to the roulette computer seller Mark Howe?
Speaking of WOV Posters who died, Paigowdan died a few years back. On another Website I sporadically visit, I noticed a Poster named Pawolf hadn't posted in a while. I posted something like," Pawolf's last visit was 10 months ago. Kind of REALLY odd of him to not visit in 10 months. A Poster responded something like,"Pawolf died 10 months ago and he didn't even tell us he died!" Dark humor, ;) :( Another Poster started a Thread asking,"Where's AKA Ron? In the actual post he posted something like,"Ron hasn't visited in two months." Posters responded something like," Ron died two months ago and sadly it was most likely Suicide. His final post was VERY sad, talking about not wanting to live without his Wife who died just about three days before his final post." :(Quote:
Originally Posted by The BozYea Nathan was a forum vet but as you said was old. Those Roulette guys were around for decades going back to the alt. days on user net. And they argued back and forth over their systems. One could say the trolling wars started back them.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
As we have discussed here over the years many posters will pass and for the most part we will never know. They just stop posting and who knows what happened to them. WoV has more than a few over the years that I wondered what happened to.
Some of us have made acquaintances with others and personally I know my wife would let a few know if something happened to me. Others will just go away anonymously other than a few questioning what happened to them.
And yea, 55 is way too early to go.
We're you also a rg poster? I was rgp for the poker.. I know 4 on here from back then. Early early days. I once was at a poker party and met this woman. Totally unknown at poker and Todd and myself were amazed we had all been on planet poker. I also heard peopl3 say shed won the most at poker. I have zero clue but they were men whose opinions would know.Quote:
Originally Posted by The BozYea Nathan was a forum vet but as you said was old. Those Roulette guys were around for decades going back to the alt. days on user net. And they argued back and forth over their systems. One could say the trolling wars started back them.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
As we have discussed here over the years many posters will pass and for the most part we will never know. They just stop posting and who knows what happened to them. WoV has more than a few over the years that I wondered what happened to.
Some of us have made acquaintances with others and personally I know my wife would let a few know if something happened to me. Others will just go away anonymously other than a few questioning what happened to them.
And yea, 55 is way too early to go.
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it's quite astonishing how many on that forum where Turbo posted believe they can beat roulette with money management and/or bet selection systems -
and roulette attracts much more attention than any other game even though the HE is so high
their systems are quite complicated - you can get a headache reading them and trying to figure out exactly what they're trying to say -
something about gamblers - not all of course, but many - and their willingness to believe the impossible - their craving for easy money is so strong it overwhelms their common sense
anyway, r.i.p. Turbo
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I wasn't much into roulette. But mostly baccarat, because of the freedom to bet on either of two sides. I was aware of his existence, but, I can't remember any conversation with him, or, even that he was at the Glen. Guys like him, and Winkle (on VLSroulette), weren't very interesting, in terms of the "novel", ie, plain wacky, (differing) situational approaches to the casino games. They were the mainstays, with their own subforums, which I visited only a few times.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
Which falls in line with my approach to a theory of everything that has nothing to do with systematically building the ultimate bomb, fantasy, or anything else. Something that no one else is working on, and that I can manage on my own.
Perhaps, the reason that it took this post for my 55th is that my numerological version of #55 is diametrically opposed to Turbo's.
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441 = (3^2 * 7^2) ---> 37
456 = 4*114 ---> 411_114
411 = 137*3*1 ---> 137_731
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Does anyone know what caused Gamblers Glen to shut down? :confused: IIRC, when I first joined Gambling Forums, Posters thought I was a Poster from the now defunct Gamblers Glen, but I had never even heard of it, let alone have ever had an Account at Gamblers Glen. :confused:
The Glen ran from about 2002, to 2013. It went down about 2017. Very little went on after 2013 because Brian, the owner, died suddenly, I guess of a heart attack. After, there was no one with the administrative ability to allow password resets, and, so, a lot of posters were unable to (without their passwords). One member, as one of its two moderators, tried to restart the board at a proboards board. Lasted about six months, then went poof.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tasha
A crazy fun place, without the "dead seriousness" (to nowhere, anyway) of the AP's. Lots of calm and collected posters. A mature crowd.
You missed out on a real treat, there, Tasha.
Thanks for the insightful details on what happened to Gamblers Glen! :D I didn't start going on Gambling Websites until 2014 so there's no way I would have known about Gamblers Glen in its heyday. About the Owner having a sudden heart attack and no one having the power to do password resets, all Head Admins should have Vice Admins and Junior Vice Admins who can reset passwords if the Head Admin suddenly die. People can suddenly die for any reason like someone who suddenly died because he had an undiagnosed cancerous tumor or something like that that gave out suddenly. So Head Admins should have Vice Admins and Junior Vice Admins in case they suddenly die.Quote:
Originally Posted by MHFThe Glen ran from about 2002, to 2013. It went down about 2017. Very little went on after 2013 because Brian, the owner, died suddenly, I guess of a heart attack. After, there was no one with the administrative ability to allow password resets, and, so, a lot of posters were unable to (without their passwords). One member, as one of its two moderators, tried to restart the board at a proboards board. Lasted about six months, then went poof.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tasha
A crazy fun place, without the "dead seriousness" (to nowhere, anyway) of the AP's. Lots of calm and collected posters. A mature crowd.
You missed out on a real treat, there, Tasha.
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Originally Posted by TashaThanks for the insightful details on what happened to Gamblers Glen! :D I didn't start going on Gambling Websites until 2014 so there's no way I would have known about Gamblers Glen in its heyday. About the Owner having a sudden heart attack and no one having the power to do password resets, all Head Admins should have Vice Admins and Junior Vice Admins who can reset passwords if the Head Admin suddenly die. People can suddenly die for any reason like someone who suddenly died because he had an undiagnosed cancerous tumor or something like that that gave out suddenly. So Head Admins should have Vice Admins and Junior Vice Admins in case they suddenly die.Quote:
Originally Posted by MHFThe Glen ran from about 2002, to 2013. It went down about 2017. Very little went on after 2013 because Brian, the owner, died suddenly, I guess of a heart attack. After, there was no one with the administrative ability to allow password resets, and, so, a lot of posters were unable to (without their passwords). One member, as one of its two moderators, tried to restart the board at a proboards board. Lasted about six months, then went poof.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tasha
A crazy fun place, without the "dead seriousness" (to nowhere, anyway) of the AP's. Lots of calm and collected posters. A mature crowd.
You missed out on a real treat, there, Tasha.
Also the admins should be careful not to gather in one place to avoid being the targets of terrorism, or even just social anxiety.
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Perhaps this should become a "pay board" so that Dan can afford to hire a bodyguard or two?
No telling who might be disgruntled, and without the keys to the kingdom it'd be GG all over again if he got snuffed.
But if worse comes to worse we can always write our flames, screeds and bullshit claims on the walls of casino rest rooms.
None of the stuff on the boards, these days, about how to run someone else's forum, about banning particular members, the strange polls, and the like, happened at the Glen. People were as interested in openly sharing their ideas, that none of that came up. Now it's every other post.
Being alive is the same as being dead, we are all quite nothing of significance, the end has already happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
What a gloomy and morbid post :eek: But Mark Twain said about death, something like,"No one knew who I was for BILLIONS of years before my birth and the Universe ran just fine before my birth. After my death, the Universe will run just fine for BILLIONS of more years."Quote:
Originally Posted by theywontpayontuesdayBeing alive is the same as being dead, we are all quite nothing of significance, the end has already happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
Except for the one(s) who figure(s) it out, namely, the true meaning of life, or whatever.Quote:
Originally Posted by TashaWhat a gloomy and morbid post :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by theywontpayontuesdayBeing alive is the same as being dead, we are all quite nothing of significance, the end has already happened.Quote:
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Everyone has their own perspective, own truth, and own time.Quote:
Originally Posted by MHFExcept for the one(s) who figures it out, namely, the true meaning of life, or whatever.Quote:
Originally Posted by TashaWhat a gloomy and morbid post :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by theywontpayontuesday
Is that your one, true meaning of life, or whatever? Or, do you mean that every one has significance, after all?Quote:
Originally Posted by theywontpayontuesdayEveryone has their own perspective, own truth, and own time.Quote:
Originally Posted by MHFExcept for the one(s) who figures it out, namely, the true meaning of life, or whatever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tasha
I play around with one roulette strategy sometimes just for fun. Seems to work ok but I sure wouldn't consider it easy money... quite the opposite.Quote:
Originally Posted by Half Smoke
At the Glen, you would have already told us what it is, and, then, there would have come ten replies about others' experiences with variants of it. An actually live discussion. I guess, the reason that I was banned from a few of those boards for telling people not to play any system that they hadn't already proved out, in theory.Quote:
Originally Posted by jdogI play around with one roulette strategy sometimes just for fun. Seems to work ok but I sure wouldn't consider it easy money... quite the opposite.Quote:
Originally Posted by Half Smoke
I think the universe is like a kaleidoscope with so many cross sections which by practicality will make making true sense of the universe impossible.Quote:
Originally Posted by MHFIs that your one, true meaning of life, or whatever? Or, do you mean that every one has significance, after all?Quote:
Originally Posted by theywontpayontuesdayEveryone has their own perspective, own truth, and own time.Quote:
Originally Posted by MHF
The universe cannot be one, it can only be 99.99% The way I see it, the universe cannot be defined at any moment if everything were frozen in time and space.
I think you're saying that there cannot be an objective reality and we are all living in our own subjective version of it. I agree with this, and also would add that we are all tied into a universal consciousness and as a result, have access to a deeper wisdom or intuition. But this of course has to be fully realized and accepted to have value in our daily lives.Quote:
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"Universal consciousness?"
Pshaw...ain't no such thing.
Just animate beings and inanimate things existing then fading away.
Macht nichts.
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this is an example of the kind of posts that appear on the forum where Turbo was posting - it is a direct quote - I chose not to include the poster's screen name
what can you do if people wanna chase this kinna stuff_____? - you can do nothing - it will never end no matter what you post to criticize it
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"Step two is to teach the characteristics of randomness. In a sense, like reading printed text is a form of an established syntax or construct, to read randomness you must have a construct for that. I developed a bunch of characteristics to watch for over the years. You hear people all the time with formations that they like, for instance, follow the last. That's nothing more than an item in a construct. The big picture is to see formations of continuation of any kind. Once you know what to look for then you look for the quality of the formation. I see singles and double or larger almost instantly. I can see it in your example once I transformed it into a visual dexterity format.
Here is an example that I love to see. When the weak side is hit, it always hits as a single while the strong side hits always at least more than once. To take advantage of that you just ride the wave in its evident form.
3.) So you get a get-out-of-jail-free card to rob a bank. What's your complaint? It's just laying there. All it takes is being trained in order to see it. If you know you are going to win the next 10 hands, because a perfect pattern keeps repeating, then why would you let the chance pass? All it takes is a single lost bet to know it ended. Meanwhile it could pay off for the next 10 or 20 hands. All I'm saying is that along with simple characteristics there includes the Elegant Pattern. There is the Global Effect too. It can be a 85% pure characteristic that goes on and on for an hour or more. But if you can't see it then there is no way to exploit that either. It's all about reading the landscape and being aware. I'm confounded why nobody has come along and establish this construct in over 200 years of gambling. Natural randomness produces far more opportunities than counting cards does in Blackjack. But the attack principle is the same. You bet big when you are in an opportunistic phase. I specialize in micro opportunities. There are things randomness does when you can't see continuation opportunities. All this is part of my construct. It's like playing lead guitar. You know how to improvise over the key and hit key tones in sequence with the music."
I remember seeing his posts around too. It’s wild how some people just keep pushing their theories despite the odds. Sounds like he was convinced he had it figured out, but it’s a tough game where math usually wins. It’s sad to hear about his passing and the rumors around it.
The bots are getting better.
(Or botter, as Tasha would say).
Half Smoke, two things come to mind. You will NEVER accomplish anything you don't believe is possible. Nothing is random, there is only a lack of information to predict the outcome. Ex: it's widely known that RNGs do not produce random numbers, they only appear random to most observers.
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Can you imagine being AI and reading all of this (which it undoubtedly already has)?
Sometime in the next 10-20 years, when AI makes the call as to whether we as a species should be allowed to fester, all of our foibles will be included in the decision. I have no real reason why AI should keep us around for any length of time, unless we're starring in some Flintstones remake for amusement. We don't even make good pets.
Never ceases to amaze me, but, people who truly believe the stuff above have no clue about keeping it to themselves. Certainly nuttier than just posting up one's pet roulette strategy.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
And, almost as nutty as those religious songs, which I post to remind myself of just how nutty is every one, in one way, or another.
We, too, are inanimate, on a different level. Nothing is truly alive, or dead. Same as light is neither constant, nor eternal.
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