accusations of Lying at VCT

It is actually a fascinating case study.

Let's examine the 3 main characters.

Rob Singer: (and I am only going to go back to my time here)

- First thing I became aware of was the Singer Progression System. A claim of winning hundreds of thousands of dollars over years, playing a progression betting system, with "special plays". (note: Progression wagering can NOT overcome house advantage)

- He then stole the double up bug claim from the actual men who played it, Kane and Nestor after reading accounts of it. Singer claimed to have won 3.9 million over 5 years or something like that.

- To back up these claims and just for general narcistic purposes, He then claimed to have purchased a 1.5 million dollar Newell RV. he attempted to prove this by posting a bill of sale, generic with no company letterhead or logo and all signature's in the same handwriting.

- He later attempted to prove this claim, by posting pictures of himself in various poses in a Newell at a nearby RV dealership.

- Later he attempted for a 3rd time to prove this by sneaking up on a Newell RV at a camp site and taking pictures which in no way matched previous pictures he claimed from the dealership.

- How about numerous claims of 100k and million dollar jackpots won with doctored pictures, the latest a picture from the storage area of his daughter's house, where this multi millionaire (by his claims) lives.

- and then there is 100 other lies, that he has been caught in, like the meetups with both MaxPen and Dan Druff.

And there are 100's more. These things aren't my opinion. These are facts. ALL lies he has been caught in and proven.


Next up, Mdawg.

- I will start with not a single lie, but 7 months worth of lies, day after day of gambling winnings totaling over a million dollars, and when he was caught, simply stated "he was about even". Proven lie.

- 60 winning blackjack hands in a row, that he was caught lying about and retracted. Proven lie.
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- $100 to $5000 bets spread at double deck blackjack on the strip for 10 straight hours winning $60K. Even his enabler Wizard (Michael Shackleford) said that didn't happen.

- How about a "mid 7 figure mansion purchased in Las Vegas", when no such property was on the market or changed hands. Proven Lie.

- How about his claim of playing blackjack at a private table with members of the Montreal Canadian hockey team, at a time the team was actually quarantined in Canada. Proven lie.

- How about a doctored, photoshop photo, of a compulsive liar tag from another forum, when no such tag ever existed. Proven lie.

- How about all the homeless, male prostitute and even pacific Islander claims about me. All lies.

Again, these things aren't opinion. This things are proven fact and proven lies.


And finally, myself KewlJ.

For 18 years I have shared parts and experiences of my 20+ years of blackjack advantage player experiences. And yes, as an active player, at times, I have had to change some minor details and even lie a few times about details to protect myself and identity. I am not proud of that, but most AP's that post and share a lot, find themselves needing to do that. That is all that has EVER been proven about me. I have lied about some details several times and admitted it. (unlike these two)

No doctored or phony photos of anything. No million dollar claims of winning or million dollar homes or RVs.

In the end, what this campaign amounts to is a level of hate, born out of envy and jealousy, that these two people are life long losing gamblers. But it is the level of hypocrisy, with these two, two of the biggest gambling frauds and liars anywhere, calling anyone a liar. THAT my friends is Dan Druff's VCT. :rolleyes:

That is all for today from me. Have a wonderful day, all. :) Troll amongst yourselves.

Yes, you can spank those "good old boys" til the cows come home but they'll never repent or change their ridiculous narratives: small people make big claims.

By now regular viewers realize that those two self-proclaimed emperors have no clothes.

*note: for those unaware of the term "the emperor has no clothes:" The phrase is an idiom used to describe a situation where someone is pretending to be something they are not, or when something is revealed to be a fraud. It’s a way of pointing out that someone is not as powerful or impressive as they claim to be, or of exposing a lie or deception.

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And yes, as an active player, at times, I have had to change some minor details and even lie a few times about details to protect myself and identity.

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It is wiser to omit details than invent them.

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And yes, as an active player, at times, I have had to change some minor details and even lie a few times about details to protect myself and identity.

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It is wiser to omit details than invent them.

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I can't imagine that KJ has any ball(s) to pinch. Which explains V's psychological vampire feeding frenzy (with people with fewer ball(s) than himself).

Kewl, get help.

I could tear apart your nonsense and explain a multitude of reasons why you're are incredibly full of it. I have no doubt you haven't counted cards shy of being a house-bound person but there is a list of nearly 30 documented lies. Sure nothing can be proven but that works both ways. Which one is more likely? It is beyond obvious. Million dollar wins? I believe I've known only 1 person to hit a lick that big but it is still faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar more likely than the sum truth of all your claims.

Clearly you want attention. Gawd you must be over the top flaming in RL.

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there is a list of nearly 30 documented lies. Sure nothing can be proven

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Documented lies. BUT none proven.

What does that even mean? It means you or someone else doesn't believe something so that is a "documented" lie?

That is ridiculous. If you are going to accuse someone of lying, you should prove it.

If you can't prove the things you are accusing someone of lying about, then it really boils down to one thing. You have decided you don't like that person and are making up shit to try discredit them. And that is exactly what this campaign lead by Mdawg has been about. And the rest of you have just piled on because you don't like me for other reasons.

I don't care that you don't like me for whatever reason. I didn't come here to win a popularity contest. But what you are doing, what you all are doing, following Mdawgs lead, is just pure dishonest. I guess that is who the people on this forum are.

AinQ, maybe you don't realize it, but every post from YOU, from others, There is some kind of reference, sometimes veiled, usually not, that screams homophobe, like "Gawd you must be over the top flaming in RL". Without a doubt that is the basis of the hatred by many of you.

You really are the one who should seek help. There are gay people in the world. Get the fuck over it! For those that are racist in addition to homophobic, There are black people, and Latinos people and all kind of other people in the world. Get the fuck over it. I mean seriously, you people do the same shit to Tasha because she is black.

MQueer is the biggest liar on this board by a mile....everyone with 1/2 a brain knows it too whether they admit it or not:o

In real life he's

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who flames out with great bursts of colored flames when online in desperate attempts for attention.

https://i.imgur.com/9StaJWel.jpg

Just look at how he has all the personality of a wooden rocking chair. Has no knowledge of art, literature, cinema, uneducated, has a hard time with any kind of wit or humor other than tossing in an Emoji here and there, and strains to restrain himself when provoked.

In real life he's the one who got beat up and ended up with a black eye. In real life his brittle bones have been snapped before by people he offended, probably even by his own family before they threw him out. Online he can lie and claim he's the one who grabbed a pick pocket and gave him a black eye, he may claim that he finally got satisfaction by way of a fictional half million dollar settlement for having his brittle bones broken.

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KewlJ has proven he lies, is a drama queen, loves attention, and is generally an annoying gnat.

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It's not just that he lies. We've had lots of liars on this forum.

It's the seriousness with which kewlJ tells these lies, and then lashes out at those who doubt them. There's a certain arrogance to those posts, in the tone, "Of course this is fucking true, and you're a complete idiot for even doubting this."

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a lot of the trolling aimed in your direction comes as a result of years of lying both here and on other forums. I think you should look inward regarding why you get trolled so much.

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If I have to be honest here, at this point MDawg actually has way more credibility than you. He's actually met up with the wizard, played Baccarat at a medium level, and won.

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Originally Posted by jdog

since kewl has never (and never will) provided proof of anything, MDawg has to be considered the more credible between the two.

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Originally Posted by mission146

In fairness to MDawg, he has definitely proven more about himself than I understand you to have done.

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And it just hurts him like a knife twisting in his guts to know that anyone else could be taken seriously when he's been beyond tossed in the dung heap as far as credibility. Hence these threads he creates after he's so many times claimed that he's "done with these forums" and will never again address MDawg or R.Singer.

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I'm pretty sure you don't have a clue to the possibilities of what he is really doing. All you've done is spent years trying to discredit the guy without providing one ounce of proof beyond the obvious as to what is really going on.

One of the reasons I have always stayed out of the MDawg drama for the most part is because of the possibilities as to what is really going on.

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Every now and then you get a new piece to the MDawg puzzle. Maybe one day it will be solved. But for now he has 10x more credibility than you. People know him, people have seen him play, he's actually profited from a non-believer, and has had no one step up to claim supposed free money if they don't believe a story told about a session or whatever.

Meanwhile you have absolutely nothing substantiated....RIP

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the bottom line is I just simply believe what MDawg has posted is more plausible in it's totality. Unlike you, I have the ability to understand that there are things I don't know that others possibly do. I also have enough knowledge to understand how winning play could be tolerated under an arrangement. Not to mention the only thing you've EVER stated that has been corroborated is that you post from an IP address within Vegas.

Also you are not too bright, but you genuinely believe you know everything about APing and casinos. A wise man knows there is much he doesn't know, but in you we have the unfortunate combination of being extremely self-righteous and unwise. For this I feel sorry for you.

But of course I'm just trolling you... and all the trolls deep down actually believe you, right? Total self-dilution. Have you ever considered you might be wrong about anything??

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I bring these up primarily because these are like knives being twisted in UNKewlJ's guts. And the fact that it bothers him so much, is most of the reason why he's not at all the type who could play low key in a casino the way he claims, and not get booted time and again for getting hysterical when things don't go his way. The REAL story behind how he got that black eye recently could give us some more insight.

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A psychiatrist could (and should) have a field day with UNKewlJ. This is part of the fascination with UNKewlJ at these forums, being able to view the inner workings of a truly diseased mind from a distance - without having to be subject to its distasteful physical presence.

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The thing about KJ - if you actually read what he writes - is that he constantly echoes the words/phrases and themes of the immediately previous replies by others. As I noted, a while back, he's extremely suggestible. Not someone in control of even his own life. People don't always end up in places like Vegas by their own conscious volition. My guess would be some nut-job living from one day to the next, now on the internet. Certainly of negligible intelligence, etc.

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Just look at how he got tired of being ridiculed for having no education, so he decided to create a fictional college degree (but couldn't keep track of the amount of time allegedly spent in college). As if anyone could get through four years of college and have absolutely no knowledge of history or literature. The guy has quite obviously been on the streets struggling since his family threw him out.

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I'm rather certain he has money from something he feels shame over

Most likely a prostitute

Pretending to be some hero AP gives him purpose and a sense of accomplishment.

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A psychiatrist could (and should) have a field day with UNKewlJ. This is part of the fascination with UNKewlJ at these forums, being able to view the inner workings of a truly diseased mind from a distance - without having to be subject to its distasteful physical presence.]

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A psychiatrist could (and should) have a field day with the hound and Robert. This is part of the fascination with these guys at these forums, being able to view the inner workings of two truly diseased minds from a distance - without having to be subject to their distasteful physical presence.

Uh...project much, eh?

FYP

You're the addict - alcoholic who said that UNKewlJ lies, ongoing, plural. And then tries to lie about it claiming weakly that you were referring to a past tense singular lie.

Just the fact that you would say a word about UNKewlJ other than that he lied to your face about the lawsuit is weak.

As such, why believe or listen to anything you have to say any more than UNKewLyingJ.

Your standing up in any way for

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wipes out your credibility.

Isn't it fun :) watching kew come apart at the seams again--this time because he was picked apart for his lies about redietz of all people! It proves once again how incredibly bothered he is when nobody buys his nonsense. And when he says "that's it guys, troll on" you just KNOW people are gonna come back at him for his bs and since he's way too weak a failure in life to just do what he says and let it go, it's LIARS LAIR with him once again!

I however am honored he started his raging with me. You just know he can't help himself when it comes to RS, because I torment his confused mind 24/7. And this thing about how all his lies about myself & mdawg's claims are "proven" just because they're too big for his shattered ego....this is music to my soul!!

It won't be much longer before such a troubled loser puts an end to his misery. This will be cause for CELEBRATION!!!!

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Isn't it fun :) watching kew come apart at the seams again--this time because he was picked apart for his lies about redietz of all people! It proves once again how incredibly bothered he is when nobody buys his nonsense. And when he says "that's it guys, troll on" you just KNOW people are gonna come back at him for his bs and since he's way too weak a failure in life to just do what he says and let it go, it's LIARS LAIR with him once again!

I however am honored he started his raging with me. You just know he can't help himself when it comes to RS, because I torment his confused mind 24/7. And this thing about how all his lies about myself & mdawg's claims are "proven" just because they're too big for his shattered ego....this is music to my soul!!

It won't be much longer before such a troubled loser puts an end to his misery. This will be cause for CELEBRATION!!!!

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These kinds of posts by Rob Singer, of which he makes many, simply are NOT posts by a successful, well adjusted, loving family man, that he frequently claims to be. There are the posts of a very angry, bitter and small man. No doubt fueled by the fact that he is and was a life long losing "gambler", on forums where there where and are some successful winning players employing a variety of advantage play techniques.

If you go back to the early years, it all started with Bob Dancer, who Singer was extremely jealous of. And through the years it has gone on to nearly every winning player Singer has encountered, including mickeycrimm, for at least a decade. Sure, Singer and mickey have a truce now, but it doesn't change the hate and lies he spewed about mickey for a decade, simply because mickey is a winning player employing advantage techniques. THAT is the catalyst for Singer's hate and attacks. I am just the lastest of those he goes after.

And Mdawg, is just Singer 2.0, following exactly Singer's playbook. NOTHING screams that these people are losing players and their ridiculous claims, complete nonsense, more than the personal attacks and lies that they employ and repeat.

It is hard not to take it personally when they attack you in this manner, but I honestly don't hate either. I feel bad for them, that they are so angry and bitter that this is their life.

Stop accusing people of past posting you faggot.

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cracking. You can see it right here in real time.

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more than repeated 10X multiplier posts.

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KJ keeps trying to manually rephrase the same old nervous essays over and over. Can you imagine how much time and angst that takes?

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Isn't it fun :) watching kew come apart at the seams again--this time because he was picked apart for his lies about redietz of all people! It proves once again how incredibly bothered he is when nobody buys his nonsense. And when he says "that's it guys, troll on" you just KNOW people are gonna come back at him for his bs and since he's way too weak a failure in life to just do what he says and let it go, it's LIARS LAIR with him once again!

I however am honored he started his raging with me. You just know he can't help himself when it comes to RS, because I torment his confused mind 24/7. And this thing about how all his lies about myself & mdawg's claims are "proven" just because they're too big for his shattered ego....this is music to my soul!!

It won't be much longer before such a troubled loser puts an end to his misery. This will be cause for CELEBRATION!!!!

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These kinds of posts by Rob Singer, of which he makes many, simply are NOT posts by a successful, well adjusted, loving family man, that he frequently claims to be.

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Translation: I got under kew's skin AGAIN---and I didn't even try!

And if he hasn't yet noticed--NOBODY BELIEVES ANYTHING HE SAYS. Even the guy V who likes sticking up for the retarded, the foolish, and the hopeless just to stir the pot, even HE recognizes how much a fool kew really is.

I tingle :)

UNKewlJ obviously in a bad way as his soft whining rises to a hysterical pitch.

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That is all for today from me.

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In a pig's eye! UNKewlJ is incapable of controlling himself, here, or in the casinos when he's trying desperately to find another John.

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hand cocked onto his side, the bent elbow and the high pitched whiny voice complaining, "Now wayyyyt a minute, Misterrrrr."

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You don't see anyone bothering to respond to his lies, not for some time now, months, even years. And that's the difference, UNKewlJ HAS to respond, has to defend his fables.

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A lot has been said about you. I find it telling that you only focus on a few things. Especially the male prostitute thing. I am inclined to believe the things you focus in on refuting are the one's that hit closest to home.

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And if he hasn't yet noticed--NOBODY BELIEVES ANYTHING HE SAYS. Even the guy V who likes sticking up for the retarded, the foolish, and the hopeless just to stir the pot, even HE recognizes how much a fool kew really is.I tingle :)

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You "tingle" because you, just like your compadre the hound, enjoy sadistically flaming people.

I really don't think KJ is "a fool;" yes, he has lied, more than once, but unlike you and the hound he's admitted it and explained why he did.

But hey, I get it...you've made your bed, now you need to lie (in it).

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I really don't think KJ is "a fool"

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-2_OstpR5c

Put down the KY, coach: I never met KJ and never will.

Sorry to disrupt your fantasy.

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explained why he did.

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A lot of people would like to play poker with you after seeing that post.

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In fact, even this story doesn't make sense. He's insisting the backrooming really happened, but just the lawsuit part of it was fake. He said he told that lie in order to protect his privacy. Huh?? How does adding a fake postscript to the story protect your privacy?

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I never met KJ and never will.

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You must be shattered.

But it's clear that you're loving him from afar.

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Originally Posted by Keystone

MQueer is the biggest liar on this board by a mile....everyone with 1/2 a brain knows it too whether they admit it or not:o

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They may even be the same person, ever watch a Punch and Judy show? There's only one puppeteer.

What was his explanation for faking his own death? That he was robbed and that posting too much online was drawing too much attention to himself and he had to bow out? :D

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In fact, even this story doesn't make sense. ... He said he told that lie in order to protect his privacy. Huh??

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So he came back to declare that he was not dead and started posting more than ever?

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Huh??

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The truth is actually as it appears. He's a lost soul inveterate liar. And,

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At this point anyone who thinks FraudJ represents anything truthfully or factually correct is a fool.....RIP

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You do everything you accuse others of when it suits your purpose: racial slurs, threats, repeating embellishments or outright lies about others over and over. Obviously you are so deluded you have no idea even who you are. I'm coming to understand you must actually believe everything you say, even the lies you tell yourself about yourself. I agree with AinQ, I don't want to chase you off the forum either, just get help. Seriously you need a therapist to help you connect with reality.

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I never met KJ and never will.

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You must be shattered.

But it's clear that you're loving him from afar.

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Really?

"Loving him from afar?"

Unlike many coaches I've no prurient interest in men.

You seem to confuse "supporting and believing" with "loving."

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The lady doth protest too much.

You're busted, 100% dork, and at least half a fag...tewlj completes you.

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What was his explanation for faking his own death? That he was robbed and that posting too much online was drawing too much attention to himself and he had to bow out? :D

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In fact, even this story doesn't make sense. ... He said he told that lie in order to protect his privacy. Huh??

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Two points I find interesting in relation to this:

1. I was not active on forums at the time but I believe some "friend of KJ" was the one who went on the forums to announce KJ's death.

I presume this was in fact a KJ sock, so there goes KJ's claims that he never had a dupe account.

2. Didn't the whole ruse only last a week or something? If so, what is KJ's explanation for why he didn't stick with it?

Bonus question (I've asked this before): how would faking his death *online* make him safer live?

I don't think even Mr. V believes it was anything more than a pathological liar move (I had to avoid both "attention whore move" and "drama queen move" to keep things civil.)

V, there has to be some rational explanation for why someone would keep taking it up the ass smile and keep asking for more. And I am talking about you, not UNKewlJ. With him it's mental illness and he has nothing to lose.

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If I had to ask myself and wonder why someone would stay and keep taking a pounding while taking into account all the bad things they claim have happened to them....

I would have to guess that it's all BS, therefore nothing bad has ever happened to them, and therefore there's no real reason to leave/ stop.

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I'd prefer to have the case exist than to conclude KJ lied to me; not that he owes me the truth, but I really wouldn't like it at all.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8K16dt174g

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Mr. V is a nihilist...he doesn't believe in anything.

I find KJ's posts on blackjack to seem reasonably plausible but that isn't a casino game I play.

As for his other claims...who knows?

Not that I am doubting him: simply "Who knows?"

Nobody here has met and gambled with him, visited his home, or hung out with him so "Who knows?"

I simply choose to be his advocate...retired attorney that I am.

Oh, as for the hound saying I "take it up the ass..." bwa ha ha ha ... dream on.

I will continue to advocate for KJ until objective proof that all his claims are lies is adduced.

But really guys..."It don't mean nothin';."..."Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, live is but a dream."

V, stop acting like an idiot. Kew's making you do this to yourself--he's making a FOOL out of YOU. He gets mocked by every poster whose come along and ends up reading his nonsense.

Wise up.

Everyone else can't be wrong, and you know that. Why keep trying to stir the pot when there's nothing in it but the stark truth about the queer loser? Are you that bored at home that you have to look so dumb?

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Are you that bored at home that you have to look so dumb?

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LOL...I was about to ask you the same question.

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I "take it up the ass

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MDawg was speaking metaphorically, and he is accurate.

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I don't think even Mr. V believes it was anything more than a pathological liar move.

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V is an exception to the rule that strangers should be treated as smart until you know more about them. It's the other way around with V. To the extent that the more he says, then the less it boils down to, but, which is more than Singer has going for him.

Perhaps V's youth passed him by, but, nor did he grow up, and, so, the reason that he can't talk about his age.

This shit is so ... predicatable.

I choose to support someone and I'm demonized, slandered, mocked, hooted and jeered at for my efforts.

I expect no less from the basement dwellers and bullshit artists: keep it up guys, there's good fun to be had here by all.

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V, stop acting like an idiot. Kew's making you do this to yourself--he's making a FOOL out of YOU. He gets mocked by every poster whose come along and ends up reading his nonsense.

Wise up.

Everyone else can't be wrong, and you know that. Why keep trying to stir the pot when there's nothing in it but the stark truth about the queer loser? Are you that bored at home that you have to look so dumb?

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Leave it to Rob to cut through the B.S. and get right to the heart of the matter!

And here too:

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Kew you're not fooling anybody with your stoopid "my blackjack journey" stuff....and you never have. You've never done anything more than "lift" information, procedures and tactics off of the true players and concocted stories of your own with it. If you're not seeing this reputation you've earned, then you are certified Philadelphia-dumb. And continuously trying to divert and deflect by using the mdawg "journey" while showing your irritation with and hatred of wizard for ignoring your constant nonsense & obsession, all you're doing is making an even bigger fool of yourself.

THAT'S how things really work.

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Perhaps V's youth passed him by, but, nor did he grow up, and, so, the reason that he can't talk about his age.

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Well, they say that addict alcoholics are only as old as they have been years completely abstinent, so with V that would leave him about 12 years old. If that?

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You are a demon. Fuck you, jerkoff.

LOL

Body blows from the Sta-Puff Marshmallow Man.

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This shit is so ... predicatable.

I choose to support someone and I'm demonized, slandered, mocked, hooted and jeered at for my efforts.

I expect no less from the basement dwellers and bullshit artists: keep it up guys, there's good fun to be had here by all.

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Not sure if this is more sad or more sick. Maybe equal amounts of both.

"Demonize" is the exact right word, MrV. That is what these sick bastards do. it isn't enough that they have demonized me for years now, just as they do Tasha and anyone else they decide they don't like, making up lies and stories ect. Now they are demonizing you. Why? Because you refuse to join in with their ganging up trolling. They are like some kind of sick cult. They really are.

This is what Dan Druff's free speech forum is. Has nothing....not a damn thing to do with gambling anymore. It is a cult of hate, racism, homophobia, and other bigitry, by a bunch of bitter angry dudes. And as a forum, THAT is precisely why it is down to only a handful of active members. Way to go Todd.

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"Demonize" is the exact right word.

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Yes, you are the demon...a sick bastard.

You need to come to grips with that.

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they have demonized me for years now

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UNKewl one (sulking, voice rising to a falsetto whine): I'm the victim here! I'm always the victim! People are always out to get me! I knew you wouldn't understand.

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...they have demonized me for years now, just as they do Tasha...

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Bitch, please. When Tasha panhandled you privately via PM, you chose to expose it publicly, know full well she would be ragged, dragged, sauteed and deep fried.

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Bitch, please. When Tasha panhandled you privately via PM, you chose to expose it publicly, know full well she would be ragged, dragged, sauteed and deep fried.

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Are YOU fucking nuts?

Tasha or anyone soliciting people for money on forums should be called out for it. That is very different from the racist attacks on her and frankly attacks because she is female from you cowardly bullies. Big fucking men, you are.

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Trying so hard to be a victim after the shit KJ has said about shack and qfit. People have a problem with you primarily because you’re as big of a self righteous hypocrite as there is in this world.

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Bitch, please. When Tasha panhandled you privately via PM, you chose to expose it publicly, know full well she would be ragged, dragged, sauteed and deep fried.

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Are YOU fucking nuts?

Tasha or anyone soliciting people for money on forums should be called out for it. That is very different from the racist attacks on her and frankly attacks because she is female from you cowardly bullies. Big fucking men, you are.

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Seems to me it was completely harmless and you just threw her under the bus to make yourself out to be a victim.

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This shit is so ... predicatable.

I choose to support someone and I'm demonized, slandered, mocked, hooted and jeered at for my efforts.

I expect no less from the basement dwellers and bullshit artists: keep it up guys, there's good fun to be had here by all.

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Not sure if this is more sad or more sick. Maybe equal amounts of both.

"Demonize" is the exact right word, MrV. That is what these sick bastards do. it isn't enough that they have demonized me for years now, just as they do Tasha and anyone else they decide they don't like, making up lies and stories ect. Now they are demonizing you. Why? Because you refuse to join in with their ganging up trolling. They are like some kind of sick cult. They really are.

This is what Dan Druff's free speech forum is. Has nothing....not a damn thing to do with gambling anymore. It is a cult of hate, racism, homophobia, and other bigitry, by a bunch of bitter angry dudes. And as a forum, THAT is precisely why it is down to only a handful of active members. Way to go Todd Witteles.

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It's pretty simple kew. You say this forum is not what you want or expect it to be and it isn't run according to your desires and needs. In fact, you whine and cry and jump up & down like a spoiled kid who's mommy won't give him what he's screaming for.

The solution? Either jump--or STOP READING AND POSTING YOUR BALONEY. You already know no AP, no non-AP, and nobody at all believes any of the lies you keep spewing about yourself and others. So why torment yourself....why keep whining about it? For MrV? Hahaha!....if you haven't figured it out yet, he doesn't believe your bs either. He only puts on that silly act because he can't stand the big money mdawg and myself have made gambling---and he's really just like you! He doesn't want any of it to be real. But without a doubt, he really enjoys your continuous humiliation.

Now go to your safe space (the potty at Excalibur) and blow another black guy for 25 bucks :)

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Bitch, please. When Tasha panhandled you privately via PM, you chose to expose it publicly, know full well she would be ragged, dragged, sauteed and deep fried.

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Are YOU fucking nuts?

Tasha or anyone soliciting people for money on forums should be called out for it. That is very different from the racist attacks on her and frankly attacks because she is female from you cowardly bullies. Big fucking men, you are.

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He’s not fucking nuts, he’s pinching them.

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MrV? Hahaha!....if you haven't figured it out yet, he doesn't believe your bs either. He only puts on that silly act because he can't stand the big money mdawg and myself have made gambling---

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That's your story and you're sticking to it.

You guys are full of shit but at least you're consistent in your constipation.

*golf clap*

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That is very different from the racist attacks on her and frankly attacks because she is female from you cowardly bullies.

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Dude, she fucking THRIVES on the attention...haven't you figured that out yet?

She's even more of an attention whore than...never mind...

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This shit is so ... predicatable.

I choose to support someone and I'm demonized, slandered, mocked, hooted and jeered at for my efforts.

I expect no less from the basement dwellers and bullshit artists: keep it up guys, there's good fun to be had here by all.

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It's one thing to promise to stop posting anagrams with gematria (except where part of the fabric, or topic, of a post, as with https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post183552), but, another to steadfastly write about one's life, as ultimately to hem oneself into a corner, in general, and specific.

Will there be a repeat of the soft whining from UNKewlJ and V today?

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Will there be a repeat of the soft whining from UNKewlJ and V today?

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V knows enuf to stay in his lane, and only comes out when he sees kew making another ass of himself. "Help the downtrodden and disenfranchised, even when they act like idiots after having been warned" is the mantra of every single misguided Oregon liberal. This is why he can't help himself whenever kew pops another zit.

Yes, we can expect more wussified whining from kew at any moment. I can almost hear it now--- -"You guys are all such unfair brutes; you KNOW I go out of my mind with insanity attacks when no one here believes in me or what I say; Dan needs to do SOMETHING about you bullies....after all, I'm an entitled homo!"

I'm hearing some weak squeals emanating from his safe space we speak....

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https://tinyurl.com/ykrrpppy

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Bitch, please. When Tasha panhandled you privately via PM, you chose to expose it publicly, know full well she would be ragged, dragged, sauteed and deep fried.

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Are YOU fucking nuts?

Tasha or anyone soliciting people for money on forums should be called out for it. That is very different from the racist attacks on her and frankly attacks because she is female from you cowardly bullies. Big fucking men, you are.

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If it were me I would have realized that Nathan/Tasha has been around for a while and while she may be annoying, I understand she can't help herself and I think she is genuine. I would know she is less fortunate than most of us here, and I would have loaned/given her $100. I dont think I would have the heart to NARC her out and get her banned from WOV or here. OFC if she didn't make an honest attempt to pay me back within a forgiving amount of time, I might let her know that she has X amount of time to make a payment or we might have to talk to Mike or Dandruff.

We have some dudes around here who claim they have a fuckton of money, I wonder if they lent a hand to Tasha?

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Bitch, please. When Tasha panhandled you privately via PM, you chose to expose it publicly, know full well she would be ragged, dragged, sauteed and deep fried.

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Are YOU fucking nuts?

Tasha or anyone soliciting people for money on forums should be called out for it. That is very different from the racist attacks on her and frankly attacks because she is female from you cowardly bullies. Big fucking men, you are.

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Seems to me it was completely harmless

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I agree. How much did you send her?

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We have some dudes around here who claim they have a fuckton of money, I wonder if they lent a hand to Tasha?

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Are you fucking kidding?

Why would ANYBODY in their right mind "loan" a loose cannon degenerate gambler from these boards anything?

Oh, wait...I hope you aren't gonna say "Because she's my internet friend?"

It's a dog eat dog world; we reap what we sow; actions have consequences; keep up or get the hell out of the way.

There's always winners and losers, strong and weak, successes and failures

Best to just flush the failures and forget about them.

The American Way was based on self-reliance and hard work: it isn't based on begging for alms.

But since you asked: I'm one of those "dudes" of which you speak and no, I didn't and wouldn't give her or anybody here any money: why should I?

"Charity?"

Bwa ha ha ha ... cry me a river...

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We have some dudes around here who claim they have a fuckton of money, I wonder if they lent a hand to Tasha?

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Are you fucking kidding?

Why would ANYBODY in their right mind "loan" a loose cannon degenerate gambler from these boards anything?

Oh, wait...I hope you aren't gonna say "Because she's my internet friend?"

It's a dog eat dog world; we reap what we sow; actions have consequences; keep up or get the hell out of the way.

There's always winners and losers, strong and weak, successes and failures

Best to just flush the failures and forget about them.

The American Way was based on self-reliance and hard work: it isn't based on begging for alms.

But since you asked: I'm one of those "dudes" of which you speak and no, I didn't and wouldn't give her or anybody here any money: why should I?

"Charity?"

Bwa ha ha ha ... cry me a river...

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But would you NARC her out?

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We have some dudes around here who claim they have a fuckton of money, I wonder if they lent a hand to Tasha?

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Are you fucking kidding?

Why would ANYBODY in their right mind "loan" a loose cannon degenerate gambler from these boards anything?

Oh, wait...I hope you aren't gonna say "Because she's my internet friend?"

It's a dog eat dog world; we reap what we sow; actions have consequences; keep up or get the hell out of the way.

There's always winners and losers, strong and weak, successes and failures

Best to just flush the failures and forget about them.

The American Way was based on self-reliance and hard work: it isn't based on begging for alms.

But since you asked: I'm one of those "dudes" of which you speak and no, I didn't and wouldn't give her or anybody here any money: why should I?

"Charity?"

Bwa ha ha ha ... cry me a river...

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LOL

She'd never DARE ask me for the time of day, let alone for money.

Not sure I'd "narc" on her, exactly: more likely I'd just weave it into the ongoing narrative about her and Chone to further mock, rag and drag her.

Thanks for asking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHLPWTPjs8U&t=335s

The fact that a green chip counter has a $100 loan registering as an event on his radar is uhh telling?

That 100 loan was not just an event. It was a noteworthy event.

Kewl is a GOAT

Then we got misterV in here telling us about the wisdom of not loaning people on the internet.

Guys, he is too sharp and has been around the block, yanno?

I'd loan Tasha $100 if there was a simple anonymous way to do it.

Just as a simple fuck you to team wrong.

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This shit is so ... predicatable.

I choose to support someone and I'm demonized, slandered, mocked, hooted and jeered at for my efforts.

I expect no less from the basement dwellers and bullshit artists: keep it up guys, there's good fun to be had here by all.

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Not sure if this is more sad or more sick. Maybe equal amounts of both.

"Demonize" is the exact right word, MrV. That is what these sick bastards do. it isn't enough that they have demonized me for years now, just as they do Tasha and anyone else they decide they don't like, making up lies and stories ect. Now they are demonizing you. Why? Because you refuse to join in with their ganging up trolling. They are like some kind of sick cult. They really are.

This is what Dan Druff's free speech forum is. Has nothing....not a damn thing to do with gambling anymore. It is a cult of hate, racism, homophobia, and other bigitry, by a bunch of bitter angry dudes. And as a forum, THAT is precisely why it is down to only a handful of active members. Way to go Todd.

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Please tell me that this entire routine of yours is a years-long troll job. At least that I could respect.

You have repeatedly lied on this and other forums. You have admitted to many of these lies.

Why create a thread acting like the victim for being called a liar? The reason people call you a liar is because you have a habit of lying on forums. How is that hard to understand?

It really seems like you just post shit like this because you want to be in the center of controversy. I have no other explanation.

Furthermore, while my identity is obviously not a secret, stop posting my full name gratuitously when you have a complaint. Clearly it is some attempt to cause negative SEO for my name, so people googling me can run into your posts criticizing me. I have edited out the last name for that reason.

However, just to be clear, I don't mind if my full name is posted with an actual purpose. For example, if you're discussing my poker results, it's totally fine to post my full name. But I'm not going to let my own forum be used as an SEO weapon against me. Stop it.

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Then we got misterV in here telling us about the wisdom of not loaning people on the internet. Guys, he is too sharp and has been around the block, yanno?

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I hope that that is another instance of kidding around. I mean, you don't think that V is clinically paranoid? It would be impossible to spend five minutes with the guy, in real life, especially knowing what continually swirls around in his head. The reason that he seems to spend most of his time alone, has no means of personal growth, no sound board in life. No, don't confuse outgoing, and, personal growth.

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Please tell me that this entire routine of yours is a years-long troll job. At least that I could respect.

You have repeatedly lied on this and other forums. You have admitted to many of these lies.

Why create a thread acting like the victim for being called a liar? The reason people call you a liar is because you have a habit of lying on forums. How is that hard to understand?

It really seems like you just post shit like this because you want to be in the center of controversy. I have no other explanation.

Furthermore, while my identity is obviously not a secret, stop posting my full name gratuitously when you have a complaint. Clearly it is some attempt to cause negative SEO for my name, so people googling me can run into your posts criticizing me. I have edited out the last name for that reason.

However, just to be clear, I don't mind if my full name is posted with an actual purpose. For example, if you're discussing my poker results, it's totally fine to post my full name. But I'm not going to let my own forum be used as an SEO weapon against me. Stop it.

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Go fuck yourself, TODD! Not surprised you don't want your real name used in conjunction with this forum.

You are correct that I have lied about a couple things. Which I have admitted to. Unlike Mr Newell/double up bug or Mr win-every-day, who continue pushing their lies with no admission, even after caught. And I have lied about fairly minor details that could compromise my identity, not about gambling claims that could harm other people.

I have shared more of what I do, and how I do it, often more than I ever should, almost in real time, than any AP I have ever seen on any forum. Because blackjack card counting advantage play isn't new and about the math anymore. That is known. It is about ways to play and things to do, to be able to continue to be able to play. And that is what I have shared in great detail.

For any AP that shares even a fraction of what I have, there will be times, you have to lie and change things to protect yourself and identity. That is a far cry from stealing the double up bug claim lie, or lying and posting phony pictures of jackpots, or lying daily for months about winning every single day, playing rated, and that the casinos and casino personnel love you for it. These are lies that intentionally hurt people. When I am less than honest it is to protect myself and identity.

Kewl, absolutely no one believes your nonsense. You are thoroughly awful. You will never get the mental help you need.

Go kick sticks and find another fantasy to push.

People think more highly of your average 9 year old than you.

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Are YOU fucking nuts?

Tasha or anyone soliciting people for money on forums should be called out for it. That is very different from the racist attacks on her and frankly attacks because she is female from you cowardly bullies. Big fucking men, you are.

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Seems to me it was completely harmless

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She didn't ask me and I wouldn't have given her anything.

People are not criticizing KJ for not giving Tasha money...

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Why create a thread acting like the victim for being called a liar? The reason people call you a liar is because you have a habit of lying on forums. How is that hard to understand?

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Plain and simple.

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When I am less than honest it is to protect myself and identity.

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Another obvious lie.

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Huh??

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He still hasn’t been able to come up any explanation for why lying about a lawsuit made any difference to his “privacy” other than the obvious lie,

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I made up that timeline and lawsuit portion because details of the settlement were about to become known.

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Dan Druff simply shares his expert opinion of what the truth is. he has been on these forums for a very long time and knows how to read people.

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KewlJ, you have repeatedly lied on this and other forums. You have admitted to many of these lies.

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I hope that that is another instance of kidding around. I mean, you don't think that V is clinically paranoid? It would be impossible to spend five minutes with the guy, in real life, especially knowing what continually swirls around in his head. The reason that he seems to spend most of his time alone, has no means of personal growth, no sound board in life. No, don't confuse outgoing, and, personal growth.

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Crazy Canuck, you know nothing about me and my daily life other than what I disseminate online.

I am happily married and often visit and speak with my son and his family who live a couple miles away.

True, I don't have quite the number of friends I once had but some died of natural causes and one was murdered: I've little inclination or need to seek out new social contacts: FWIW one good buddy and I often get together at my home to play ladder ball, smoke weed, watch football, listen to my Krell-based stereo system in the garage and just shoot the shit.

I jaunt to Chinook Winds to gamble and chill in lovely Lincoln City; while there I usually visit another long-time friend to shoot pool at his home on the Salmon River; we typically share dinner at one of the many good local restaurants in town.

Oh yeah...I love to gamble recreationally, typically high limit old-school slots: I can easily afford it so why not?

As for "personal growth:" I am an atheist and a realist; I read voluminously and follow current events with keen interest: in college I was a history major with a minor in English literature.

I had the good fortune to be a white man in America, raised by good parents and provided a sound education at a top flight university, followed by attending a very good law school: this prepared me to go forward.

My life long use of cannabis probably "held me back" some what but it's a trade-off I willingly have accepted, given my philosophical beliefs; I believe my life to date has been well lived, with myriad experiences.

I am not an unhappy man; I have never been clinically depressed, never took anti-depressants: but yeah, I am a bit flat emotionally and quite mellow in real life.

Finally, I have a bit of a sadistic streak and enjoy flaming fools and trolls.

Put THAT in your pipe and smoke it.

None of that begins to explain why you'd even pretend to stand up for a compulsive liar, other than maybe "I have a bit of a sadistic streak and enjoy flaming."

CoachBelly's theory remains that you are flaming, period. You must admit V, in that there is little that could explain how someone could be lied to his face made a fool of and come back for more, other than being in love, his theory is as good as any.

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I hope that that is another instance of kidding around. I mean, you don't think that V is clinically paranoid? It would be impossible to spend five minutes with the guy, in real life, especially knowing what continually swirls around in his head. The reason that he seems to spend most of his time alone, has no means of personal growth, no sound board in life. No, don't confuse outgoing, and, personal growth.

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Crazy Canuck, you know nothing about me and my daily life other than what I disseminate online.

I am happily married and often visit and speak with my son and his family who live a couple miles away.

True, I don't have quite the number of friends I once had but some died of natural causes and one was murdered: I've little inclination or need to seek out new social contacts: FWIW one good buddy and I often get together at my home to play ladder ball, smoke weed, watch football, listen to my Krell-based stereo system in the garage and just shoot the shit.

I jaunt to Chinook Winds to gamble and chill in lovely Lincoln City; while there I usually visit another long-time friend to shoot pool at his home on the Salmon River; we typically share dinner at one of the many good local restaurants in town.

Oh yeah...I love to gamble recreationally, typically high limit old-school slots: I can easily afford it so why not?

As for "personal growth:" I am an atheist and a realist; I read voluminously and follow current events with keen interest: in college I was a history major with a minor in English literature.

I had the good fortune to be a white man in America, raised by good parents and provided a sound education at a top flight university, followed by attending a very good law school: this prepared me to go forward.

My life long use of cannabis probably "held me back" some what but it's a trade-off I willingly have accepted, given my philosophical beliefs; I believe my life to date has been well lived, with myriad experiences.

I am not an unhappy man; I have never been clinically depressed, never took anti-depressants: but yeah, I am a bit flat emotionally and quite mellow in real life.

Finally, I have a bit of a sadistic streak and enjoy flaming fools and trolls.

Put THAT in your pipe and smoke it.

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Only question I have is why are you even bothering to explain or justify your life to that lunatic? Or anyone on here at all. Most of the issues here come from everyone trying to make others believe they have the biggest cock. Figuratively obviously, as we all know who does have the biggest cock.

Then again, what else is there to do? Carry on.

What issues? The point of all this is making UNKewlJ softly whine with 10X Multipliers, a bonus round that is absurdly easy to score as he brings it all on himself with his nonstop lies.

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