The Kewl-J Challenge

I challenge the kewl-J to prove his supposed prowess-ability to count accurate 2 21 tables simultaneous. I'll arrange for two table situate close together with two dealer dealing from the six decks shoe. The kewl-J will play at one table makin wager, workin the bets spread ramps-up, and count the second table accurate at the same times. If he pony up and does this then I'll give him 4ks US$, for maybe 40 or 45 minutes of his times, simple and plain. I'm also willing to book sides-wager with cats as to whether or not the kewl-J will pony up and accept this challenge, hey hey.

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Originally Posted by The Boz

Saw this after I posted. Let’s not get into this tax return and other verification nonsense.

It’s a pissing contest that in the end never happens as you said. Everyone ends up dumber for even discussing it.

As for contest results, they can mean nothing or everything. Look at the 2 Circa contests and tell me what you deduct from the final results of each. And think about how much hedging goes on.

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This is hillarious. It took a whopping 12 minutes after this insightful post by Boz for the next silly pissing contest to emerge, courtesy of Soxfan, another of the goofy baccarat players with goofy baccarat play claims.

Query, what selfs-respecting ap worth his salts is gonna pass up the opportunity to capture a risked-free, taxes-free 4ks for maybe 45 minutes of their times, hey hey????

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Originally Posted by MDawg

UNKewlJ is verifiably doing nuttin' other than a lil red to green play as cover for sugar daddy plays, now he's segueing into fantasy sports betting after giving up on the blackjack fables.

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

It is about you lying constantly !!!!

This whole math thing. Let me tell you something, Kewl. To the sharper people on here it becomes increasingly apparently that you based you whole facade around being believable. Where the math "works". When you're in a really bad spot you fall back on the "why don't you believe me because the math works". It is sad. I'm not sure what drives you to continue with this charade.

Anyone thinking I am bullying this dude REMEMBER he just threatened to dox someone. In addition, even though he calls people "sand n" when it suits him - he threatened to call the local news station to put pressure on Druff.

Kewl, the improbability of what all you have claimed is 0. Absolutely 0. This is why we get annoyed with you. Go find some other forum to give everyone gambling advice. JFC

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Not only can't she give the forums a break (after vowing to stay away umpteen times) but she also can't help but lie, constantly, even when nothing is going on, not even male prostitution, which the word on the street says has been going soft for UNKewlJ lately too.

Meantime, the casino related Adventures of MDawg will continue, whenever I am inside a casino playing.

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Originally Posted by soxfan

Query, what selfs-respecting ap worth his salts is gonna pass up the opportunity to capture a risked-free, taxes-free 4ks for maybe 45 minutes of their times, hey hey????

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These challenges and contests are fantasy. It is a waste of time. Try to keep up.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

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Originally Posted by soxfan

Query, what selfs-respecting ap worth his salts is gonna pass up the opportunity to capture a risked-free, taxes-free 4ks for maybe 45 minutes of their times, hey hey????

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These challenges and contests are fantasy. It is a waste of time. Try to keep up.

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Nope it's the bonafide challenge and can make it realities the next time I'm in the Las Vegas. I'm still willing to make the sides-wager with other cat's who think that the kewl-J will actually pony up and accept. Maybe his only remaining advocate, the Mr-V will pony up, hey hey.

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Originally Posted by soxfan

Nope it's the bonafide challenge and can make it realities the next time I'm in the Las Vegas. I'm still willing to make the sides-wager with other cat's who think that the kewl-J will actually pony up and accept. Maybe his only remaining advocate, the Mr-V will pony up, hey hey.

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Well let me save you the trouble. It aint going to happen. I view this absolutely no different than the late guy that posted as Moses challenge to play me one on one in blackjack like it was the wild west. :D

I am an advantage player that plays against the legitimate casinos at whatever real mathematical advantage I can find. It isn't the riverboat gambling shit of the 1800's.

All your nonsensical talk, claims and challenges are just poppycock.

This of course applies to none other than, UNKewlJ hisself.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

All your nonsensical talk, claims and challenges are just poppycock.

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Originally Posted by soxfan

Maybe his only remaining advocate, the Mr-V will pony up, hey hey.

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Then again...

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Originally Posted by jdog

Gentlemen, at this point I'm starting to think kewl is possibly bipolar. When these people are in a manic state they are often delusional.

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Counting two tables at once while actively playing one sounds intense, but if Kewl-J is as good as people say, it could be a fun way to prove it. The $4k offer definitely sweetens the deal.

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Originally Posted by will287

Counting two tables at once while actively playing one sounds intense, but if Kewl-J is as good as people say, it could be a fun way to prove it. The $4k offer definitely sweetens the deal.

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Ah, but then he'd have to give up his anonymity...that's an obvious non-starter.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

Really, it doesn't go much further than that anyone who claims to value anonymity so much wouldn't be so desperate to prove himself online, and yet also be unable to provide a shred of backup for anything he has had to say. Those conflicting values add up to a complete phony.

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Originally Posted by will287

Counting two tables at once while actively playing one sounds intense, but if Kewl-J is as good as people say, it could be a fun way to prove it. The $4k offer definitely sweetens the deal.

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Ah, but then he'd have to give up his anonymity...that's an obvious non-starter.

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Bulls-shits, I have no intention of tryin to ferret out the kewl-J real identity! I don't wanna know his name and he can wear a big sombrero and suns-glasses, so I can't get a good look at his ugly mug! I just want the coconut to back-up just ONE OF HIS BS CLAIM, hey hey!!!!

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Originally Posted by will287

Counting two tables at once while actively playing one sounds intense, but if Kewl-J is as good as people say, it could be a fun way to prove it. The $4k offer definitely sweetens the deal.

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Ah, but then he'd have to give up his anonymity...that's an obvious non-starter.

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Bulls-shits, I have no intention of tryin to ferret out the kewl-J real identity! I don't wanna know his name and he can wear a big sombrero and suns-glasses, so I can't get a good look at his ugly mug! I just want the coconut to back-up just ONE OF HIS BS CLAIM, hey hey!!!!

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Hey Suckfan, by chance, were you dropped on your head as a baby?

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Originally Posted by MisterV

Ah, but then he'd have to give up his anonymity...that's an obvious non-starter.

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Bulls-shits, I have no intention of tryin to ferret out the kewl-J real identity! I don't wanna know his name and he can wear a big sombrero and suns-glasses, so I can't get a good look at his ugly mug! I just want the coconut to back-up just ONE OF HIS BS CLAIM, hey hey!!!!

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Hey Suckfan, by chance, were you dropped on your head as a baby?

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Bbbwwwaahhh, so yer another butt-boy, bitch advocate for the kewl-J, sweet, hey hey!!!!

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Originally Posted by soxfan

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Originally Posted by soxfan

Bulls-shits, I have no intention of tryin to ferret out the kewl-J real identity! I don't wanna know his name and he can wear a big sombrero and suns-glasses, so I can't get a good look at his ugly mug! I just want the coconut to back-up just ONE OF HIS BS CLAIM, hey hey!!!!

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Hey Suckfan, by chance, were you dropped on your head as a baby?

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Bbbwwwaahhh, so yer another butt-boy, bitch advocate for the kewl-J, sweet, hey hey!!!!

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Nah, hardly….you just sound like a fuckin retard with a sub 40 IQ so I was just curious….carry on, I’m sure your loved ones are very proud lol

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Originally Posted by Keystone

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Originally Posted by soxfan

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Originally Posted by Keystone

Hey Suckfan, by chance, were you dropped on your head as a baby?

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Bbbwwwaahhh, so yer another butt-boy, bitch advocate for the kewl-J, sweet, hey hey!!!!

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Nah, hardly….you just sound like a fuckin retard with a sub 40 IQ so I was just curious….carry on, I’m sure your loved ones are very proud lol

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Yup, yer just another dumb cunt, hey hey.

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Bbbwwwaahhh, so yer another butt-boy, bitch advocate for the kewl-J, sweet, hey hey!!!!

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Nah, hardly….you just sound like a fuckin retard with a sub 40 IQ so I was just curious….carry on, I’m sure your loved ones are very proud lol

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Yup, yer just another dumb cunt, hey hey.

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Nice comeback retard….i think break is almost over for you. Back to the forklift you go!

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

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Originally Posted by soxfan

Nope it's the bonafide challenge and can make it realities the next time I'm in the Las Vegas. I'm still willing to make the sides-wager with other cat's who think that the kewl-J will actually pony up and accept. Maybe his only remaining advocate, the Mr-V will pony up, hey hey.

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Well let me save you the trouble. It aint going to happen. I view this absolutely no different than the late guy that posted as Moses challenge to play me one on one in blackjack like it was the wild west. :D

I am an advantage player that plays against the legitimate casinos at whatever real mathematical advantage I can find. It isn't the riverboat gambling shit of the 1800's.

All your nonsensical talk, claims and challenges are just poppycock.

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It is a real mathematical advantage. A real AP would take this challenge although you can fall back on your nonsense. I can see why you wouldn't give up your anonymity but you've never actually met anyone from a forum after 15ish years then we can safely conclude it won't happen.

The reason though is not that you're an AP. So silly.

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Originally Posted by will287

Counting two tables at once while actively playing one sounds intense, but if Kewl-J is as good as people say, it could be a fun way to prove it. The $4k offer definitely sweetens the deal.

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Will, I don't know if you are a legit new member, late to the party, or a sock of someone, but I will treat you and hope you are legit.

Tracking a second table really is not that intense. Spotters on blackjack teams track 4, 5, 6 tables at once. Slightly more challenging because you can miss seeing a card here or there if your line of sight becomes blocked. But spotters deal with that too. Something most of the detractors that don't even play blackjack fail to understand is that the count need not be perfect. All you need is to know which table is more favorable than the other.

And speaking of "missed cards" you don't see, there is about a deck and half worth of them in every standard 6 deck game. :confused: Any cards that you might miss when counting, whether at your primary game or a secondary game, just gets added in with the rest of the cards you don't see. Missed cards basically is a slight decrease in penetration. THAT IS ALL. Not ideal, but really pretty minor.

Anyway tracking a second table is something that was great while it lasted, but the opportunities are farther and fewer between for me these days with fewer and fewer real BJ games and more and more variations and carnival games.

Final thoughts on this topic: anyone that thinks a player can't track a second table when conditions are right....
just don't do it. Don't try it.

Anyone that thinks you can no longer win at card counting, maybe a little differently that you used to, but still basic card counting....just don't do it. Dont try it

Anyone who thinks you can't still win at sports betting by bonus whoring....just don't do it. Don't try it.

Any one who thinks you can't win at all kinds of different advantage plays (new ones every day)....just don't do it. Don't try it.

But stop calling people liars that actually know what they are talking about and do these things.

I believe you count cards but there are the 36 other well documented lies.

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Blah blah blah, I knew that the kewl-fraud would jump up and down, squeal like the little bitch and run away from the challenge with his tail between his leg, again, hey hey!!!!

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

I believe you count cards but there are the 36 other well documented lies.

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Mt comment is that you aren't interested in a real discussion. You want to troll.

But not a single thing on dawgs troll list of lies is documented. Not ONE!! I have admitted to a couple things, one 14 years ago one a misdirect about the lawsuit, not the backroom incident or settlement, but about the lawsuit that I used to steer people away from discovering identifying information about the incident and me.

But every single one of those others items are undocumented. I think someone needs to look up what documented means. Mdawg, or you saying I lied about this or that, is not proof or documentation. It is an accusation, and frankly a false accusation. But that is the way of a forum like this. You can say what you want. You can slander people. Truth is a foreign concept.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

I believe you count cards but there are the 36 other well documented lies.

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Mt comment is that you aren't interested in a real discussion. You want to troll.

But not a single thing on dawgs troll list of lies is documented. Not ONE!! I have admitted to a couple things, one 14 years ago one a misdirect about the lawsuit, not the backroom incident or settlement, but about the lawsuit that I used to steer people away from discovering identifying information about the incident and me.

But every single one of those others items are undocumented. I think someone needs to look up what documented means. Mdawg, or you saying I lied about this or that, is not proof or documentation. It is an accusation, and frankly a false accusation. But that is the way of a forum like this. You can say what you want. You can slander people. Truth is a foreign concept.

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Lol you're such a nut I love it. You've never documented one thing so why do we need to document obvious lies to come to the conclusion?

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

Lol you're such a nut I love it. You've never documented one thing so why do we need to document obvious lies to come to the conclusion?

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Sometimes I think you are ok. Reasonable. And other times not so much. I would like to think you really aren't out to hurt anyone. Just sometimes get caught up in the trolling and games.

But if you can't tell when someone is slandering someone, with a planned agenda to discredit them, then I don't know what to tell you. And that is exactly what Mdawg does, not just with me, although I get the worst of it, but he does the same with every single person, especially the real players who have dared to say they don't believe him.

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

Lol you're such a nut I love it. You've never documented one thing so why do we need to document obvious lies to come to the conclusion?

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Sometimes I think you are ok. Reasonable. And other times not so much. I would like to think you really aren't out to hurt anyone. Just sometimes get caught up in the trolling and games.

But if you can't tell when someone is slandering someone, with a planned agenda to discredit them, then I don't know what to tell you. And that is exactly what Mdawg does, not just with me, although I get the worst of it, but he does the same with every single person, especially the real players who have dared to say they don't believe him.

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Mdawg never lied to me personally or caused me to spread madeup info. He's one of the biggest weirdos to ever be on these forums. Likely very well educated. He's also a great troll. I don't read all his posts and understand them but I respect the obsession. Ironically I'd only meet like half the posters and he is one of them. I'm so curious wtf is behind it all. Too funny. You can watch shitty fiction and if not supernatural it is no better than you 2. You're both obsessed. God I'd spend a lot of money to teleport you into a bathroom to coexist for 3 days. Greatest reality TV show ever if interspersed with forum posts. Either that or it is snuff porn.

There's a couple of crazies hanging around here, no question ... the kind of "crazy" that would discourage me from ever attending a WoV-style "Spring Fling" for VCT, were one ever held.

Things were bad enough at WoV: I've posted before how a regular WoVer, Hot Blonde, took offense at me insulting her for being a fatso. She publicly confronted me about it at a Meet and Greet, backed up with some guy, perhaps to scare me?

It backfired royally as I, of course, doubled down.

So yeah, not all of us can take insults, slurs and slights with aplomb: some just HAVE to "bring it on" in the real world, which is an idiotic response to what are only "words on a screen."

I don't want sketchy ass people knowing who I am.

People I wouldn't meet .. Sox, coach .. def not singer or redietz. Probably not Keystone, Danny.. otherwise everyone seems reasonable enough

Replay this confrontation scene please

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

It sucks to be kewl it sucks to be lied to by some weirdo catfish.

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The kewl-J can feel free to bring along his hens-pecked jew boyfriend for emotional supports, during the challenge, hey hey.

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Originally Posted by soxfan

The kewl-J can feel free to bring along his hens-pecked jew boyfriend for emotional supports, during the challenge, hey hey.

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Forklift shift is over

This soxfan is a clown trying way to hard to fit in. To be a bad ass. He is just a poser.

On Druff's other forum, someone told Boz that he wasn't ready for the big leagues (I guess that is PFA) and to stay here in the minors. Well if this is the minors, Soxfan is still playing on a recreational weekend league on a team with dudes with beer bellies. :D

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Originally Posted by jdog

since kewl has never (and never will) provided proof of anything, MDawg has to be considered the more credible between the two.

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There's a couple of crazies hanging around here, no question ... the kind of "crazy" that would discourage me from ever attending a WoV-style "Spring Fling" for VCT, were one ever held.

Things were bad enough at WoV: I've posted before how a regular WoVer, Hot Blonde, took offense at me insulting her for being a fatso. She publicly confronted me about it at a Meet and Greet, backed up with some guy, perhaps to scare me?

It backfired royally as I, of course, doubled down.

So yeah, not all of us can take insults, slurs and slights with aplomb: some just HAVE to "bring it on" in the real world, which is an idiotic response to what are only "words on a screen."

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I honestly don't get why you called Hot Blonde a fatso. Her pictures are of only her face. :confused:

They say "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder," and I'd argue that "So is hotness."

This person chose to post as "Hot Blonde" when, objectively, she clearly did not meet to criteria to warrant that appelation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8XSOw6Voxc

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Query, what selfs-respecting ap worth his salts is gonna pass up the opportunity to capture a risked-free, taxes-free 4ks for maybe 45 minutes of their times, hey hey????

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These challenges and contests are fantasy. It is a waste of time. Try to keep up.

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Nope it's the bonafide challenge and can make it realities the next time I'm in the Las Vegas. I'm still willing to make the sides-wager with other cat's who think that the kewl-J will actually pony up and accept. Maybe his only remaining advocate, the Mr-V will pony up, hey hey.

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When you reserve the tables will you be making the reservation in KJ's real name?

Will you guarantee that KJ's pic doesn't get taken by casino personnel?

Will you guarantee that KJ doesn't get barred from that property and others.

Perhaps 50K placed in escrow by you should be required. You know. Just in case.

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These challenges and contests are fantasy. It is a waste of time. Try to keep up.

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Nope it's the bonafide challenge and can make it realities the next time I'm in the Las Vegas. I'm still willing to make the sides-wager with other cat's who think that the kewl-J will actually pony up and accept. Maybe his only remaining advocate, the Mr-V will pony up, hey hey.

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When you reserve the tables will you be making the reservation in KJ's real name?

Will you guarantee that KJ's pic doesn't get taken by casino personnel?

Will you guarantee that KJ doesn't get barred from that property and others.
Perhaps 50K placed in escrow by you should be required. You know. Just in case.

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The challenge will take place at the Casino Quest, not in an actual casino. I have zero fucking interest in learning the the little squealin fairy's real name. I'll have them situate two 21 table close together and the the little bitch can sit anywhere he wants for the best line of sight. The whole thing should take no more than 40-45 minute to prove his claim, and I'm offering 4ks risk free cake if can do it. I know he won't accept the challenge cuz he's a lying sack of shit, who has never and will never back up or prove a single fucking thing, ever, hey hey.

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

When you reserve the tables will you be making the reservation in KJ's real name?

Will you guarantee that KJ's pic doesn't get taken by casino personnel?

Will you guarantee that KJ doesn't get barred from that property and others.

Perhaps 50K placed in escrow by you should be required. You know. Just in case.

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I don't know how many lives (or chances) a professional or professional level (serious) card counter really has. There are an awful lot of card counters or former card counters that can't get a game, or if they do are backed off within minutes of sitting down.

That is why protecting my identity and anonymity have always been top priority to me.

And I have had some major and less severe problems that I have managed to survive (at lease up until this point). Probably the worst was my own doing, a back off in Reno of all places that resulted in a pretty devastating entry in several databases. I knew better than to be playing Reno. Other backoffs and entries in various databases have been less severe. Mdawg doxxing of me, resulted in additional information being added to an already established entry. oddly enough, my worst heat incident, resulted in no entry.

To achieve the kind of longevity I have and want to continued to achieve, you have to understand how things work and have a plan or come up with a plan each time something happens to as best you can, navigate around each obstacle.

And there is a whole list of things not to do or avoid. Getting involved in some silly contest is a top that list. Playing Reno, or Valley Forge, or any other KNOWN hot spot for card counters is also on that avoid list. Maybe/probably extensive posting on forums is or should be on that list. :rolleyes: For me, associating with other APs is on that list, especially if I have no business type reason to. (and I know this irritates some fellow APs).

I turned down Alan's request to video tape me play (track 2 tables) years ago, and I believe Alan meant no harm by it. And that was before some of the Issues I now deal with.

Anybody that even suggests that I or any other real AP, get or be involved in sone of these bullshit forum type contest, is someone that doesn't understand what advantage play really is about, or understand advantage players, and specifically card counters or table game players. That is really all I can say, anyone suggesting a contest in a casino (or even not) involving me or any real AP doesn't have a clue what advantage play really is.

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Dan Druff simply shares his expert opinion of what the truth is. he has been on these forums for a very long time and knows how to read people.

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kewlJ has also been caught in a lot of lies over time, both on this forum and elsewhere. Therefore, it is unclear if he really makes much (or anything) playing blackjack these days.

kewlJ is basically the Boy Who Cried Wolf of these AP forums. He has lied so many times that it's impossible to believe any stories he tells.

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