Here in this thread is the MOST bullshit claim on VCT EVER!

A Troll Poster sent out mass PMs claiming that he had our credit card information and would use our credit cards and go on HUGE shopping spree with our credit card information if we did not turn against Dan Druff. NO ONE who got this mass PM thought,"Oh my God! I have to turn against Dan Druff or this guy is going to use my credit card information and go on a HUGE shopping spree!" We just ignored him, didn't turn against Dan and reported the mass PMs to Dan.


His claim was some of the MOST generic claims ever, saying something like,"On November 20th, 2021, you used your Discover card at Red Lobster. Contact your credit card company for more details. LMAO! :D

A SERIOUS threat would have been something like,"On November 20th, 2021, you used your Discover card ending in 1234 , expiration date 05/2026, security code 123 at Red Lobster 12201, 18th Pine Street, Manhattan, New York, Zip code 10007 for $58.02 ." THAT would once again be a REALLY and SERIOUS detailed threat, :eek: , but his threat was one of the most generic threats of all time. :rolleyes:

Dan responded something like,"The guy claiming to have credit card information of a whole bunch of random VCT users and will use their credit card and go on HUGE shopping sprees if they don't turn against me is a Troll I banned three years ago for Trolling. He doesn't have any VCT Posters credit card information, he was just plain lying in an effort to try to get VCT Posters to turn against me in a panic. I am glad that you guys reported him to me and didn't turn against me. I have banned his new Account."

This "I have your credit card information and will use it and go on a HUGE shopping spree with it if you don't turn against Dan Druff is the most bullshit claim on VCT. :rolleyes:

You are retarded.

How could someone get credit cards of anonymous people on an anonymous website that does not need or collect anyone’s credit card numbers?

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How could someone get credit cards of anonymous people on an anonymous website that does not need or collect anyone’s credit card numbers?

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Yep, precisely. Each and every one of us who got these VERY weird mass PMs knew the guy was bullshitting and didn't ACTUALLY have our credit card information. ;)

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How could someone get credit cards of anonymous people on an anonymous website that does not need or collect anyone’s credit card numbers?

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Yep, precisely. Each and every one of us who got these VERY weird mass PMs knew the guy was bullshitting and didn't ACTUALLY have our credit card information. ;)

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Especially YOU, Karen...you are a broke, addicted gambler and dollars to donuts you cannot manage to keep a credit card.

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How could someone get credit cards of anonymous people on an anonymous website that does not need or collect anyone’s credit card numbers?

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Yep, precisely. Each and every one of us who got these VERY weird mass PMs knew the guy was bullshitting and didn't ACTUALLY have our credit card information. ;)

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Especially YOU, Karen...you are a broke, addicted gambler and dollars to donuts you cannot manage to keep a credit card.

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Exactly V, the odds this retard has a credit card that isn’t a prepaid Green Dot are about the same as some of the other claims around here.

Another thread that should be closed because she shit all over it.

Even IF the guy ACTUALLY had ANY VCT Posters credit card information, there's no guarantee that he WOULDN'T STILL use the credit card information even if we did turn on Dan Druff. MOST people if he showed evidence/proof that he ACTUALLY had our credit card information would just CANCEL that credit card, reporting it as compromised so he'd be left with a cancelled credit card. The guy REALLY didn't think his scheme through.

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The guy REALLY didn't think his scheme through.

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Like every time you post something.

On the subject of "bullshitting:" can we vote for a posthumous candidate?

I am nominating none other than the forum's founder, Alan Mendelson.

No, he was not a "bullshitter" cut from the same cloth as Robert and the hound, but to my mind he told the biggest tall tale in the history of these gambling forums, to wit: his claim of having witnessed a random craps player at Caesars Palace roll eighteen "yo's" (elevens) in a row.

Notwithstanding withering criticism of this mathematically so unlikely as to be deemed impossible claim, he defended it til the end.

RIP Alan.

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On the subject of "bullshitting:" can we vote for a posthumous candidate?

I am nominating none other than the forum's founder, Alan Mendelson.

No, he was not a "bullshitter" cut from the same cloth as Robert and the hound, but to my mind he told the biggest tall tale in the history of these gambling forums, to wit: his claim of having witnessed a random craps player at Caesars Palace roll eighteen "yo's" (elevens) in a row.

Notwithstanding withering criticism of this mathematically so unlikely as to be deemed impossible claim, he defended it til the end.

RIP Alan.

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I saw the same number come up like FOUR times in Roulette. Alan's claim isn't all that far fetched IMHO.

Wow, eye-ballin 18 yo on a bounce would be a serious thing, hey hey.

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Wow, eye-ballin 18 yo on a bounce would be a serious thing, hey hey.

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Yes it would, and Alan said nobody bet the yo during the entire roll.

About Alan, IIRC, he admitted he might have misremembered the 18 yo in a row.

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About Alan, IIRC, he admitted he might have misremembered the 18 yo in a row.

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That's news to me.

I always tried to give Alan benefit of doubt suggesting. He may have misremembered or selective memory type of thing. But he always came back insisting he saw what he thinks he saw.

Many year ago, i seen a streak of 28 bankers in a rows at the baccarats table. I know that that's a very rare happening as the vast majority of streaks even at the baccarats, 95%+, are gonna be duration 4 or less, hey hey.

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Many year ago, i seen a streak of 28 bankers in a rows at the baccarats table. I know that that's a very rare happening as the vast majority of streaks even at the baccarats, 95%+, are gonna be duration 4 or less, hey hey.

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I have seen 5 streak wins at the most for for both Banker and Player.

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No, you didn't, you retard. You didn't witness a 172 billion to 1 event.

If you played baccarat for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, every week of the year, for 20 FUCKING YEARS, you'd still be over 100 to 1 against seeing it happen.

You're straight fucking retarded for claiming this.

Just like that other retard is retarded for claiming to win 100 sessions in a row.

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Many year ago, i seen a streak of 28 bankers in a rows

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No, you didn't, you retard. You didn't witness a 172 billion to 1 event.

If you played baccarat for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, every week of the year, for 20 FUCKING YEARS, you'd still be over 100 to 1 against seeing it happen.

You're straight fucking retarded for claiming this.

Just like that other retard is retarded for claiming to win 100 sessions in a row.

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I've devoted over 14 years of my life playin baccarats on the fulls-time basis so I've seen lots of shoe result. And, I said that seeing a streak like that is an EXCEEDINGLY rare happening, you dim-witted subhuman, hey hey!!!!

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Many year ago, i seen a streak of 28 bankers in a rows

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No, you didn't, you retard. You didn't witness a 172 billion to 1 event.

If you played baccarat for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, every week of the year, for 20 FUCKING YEARS, you'd still be over 100 to 1 against seeing it happen.

You're straight fucking retarded for claiming this.

Just like that other retard is retarded for claiming to win 100 sessions in a row.

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I've devoted over 14 years of my life playin baccarats on the fulls-time basis so I've seen lots of shoe result. And, I said that seeing a streak like that is an EXCEEDINGLY rare happening, you dim-witted subhuman, hey hey!!!!

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My what a clever answer by soxfan. Jdaewoo just clearly explained the math. That if he played 5 days a week for 20 years he still would not see this kind of streak. Soxfan comes back with 14 years. :D

You know the old saying that you just can't make this shit up? Well, you just can't make this shit up. :cool:

AMERICA FIRST!!!
Get that through your head!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhWv5zpdsoo

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Many year ago, i seen a streak of 28 bankers in a rows

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No, you didn't, you retard. You didn't witness a 172 billion to 1 event.

If you played baccarat for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, every week of the year, for 20 FUCKING YEARS, you'd still be over 100 to 1 against seeing it happen.

You're straight fucking retarded for claiming this.

Just like that other retard is retarded for claiming to win 100 sessions in a row.

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It was a streak of SOME 28 bankers in a row.

Add Sux4Fun to the bullshitter list.

Obviously he's trolling.

Either that, or he came from Planet Claire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOjAzI5zALo

Or is he from Pluto?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQk5J-bLEZ4

I honestly don't know what's gotten into Soxfan lately. :confused: He's suddenly being VERY antagonizing and Trollish when he's USUALLY laid back and chill. :confused:

I don't get why I can't find the bullshit Mass PMs in my inbox about having our credit card information and planning to go on a HUGE shopping spree with our credit card information if we didn't turn against Dan. Wynnpleasure is BANNED and I still have PMs from Wynnpleasure and vice versa, so I don't get why I can't find the mass PMs threat. :confused:

Karen, are you saying you cannot find the email that you claim Dan Druff sent you to warn you of the troll scamming VCT forum members?

Yeah, that's what I feared. You see...

You're traveling through another dimension -- a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind.

A journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are that of imagination.

That's a signpost up ahead: your next stop: the Twilight Zone!

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Karen, are you saying you cannot find the email that you claim Dan Druff sent you to warn you of the troll scamming VCT forum members?

Yeah, that's what I feared. You see...

You're traveling through another dimension -- a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind.

A journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are that of imagination.

That's a signpost up ahead: your next stop: the Twilight Zone!

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I never said it was an EMAIL. It was a mass PM that a banned troll sent trying to get revenge on Dan for being banned by him three years prior. Dan banned his new Account as well. I'm baffled on why I can't find the mass PM since PMs from banned Members still show up in my PM Inbox. :confused: Nice reference to The Twilight Zone show however! :D

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I never said it was an EMAIL.

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No, you didn't: I did.

You see, a private message is in fact a particular type of e-mail.

If a troll sent out "Bullshit Mass PM's" as you claim, one would think other VCT members got them as well, but no one has yet chimed in.

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No, you didn't: I did.

You see, a private message is in fact a particular type of e-mail.

If a troll sent out "Bullshit Mass PM's" as you claim, one would think other VCT members got them as well, but no one has yet chimed in.

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To be fair, some Posters who also got the mass PMs haven't posted here in YEARS. Maxpen was one of the Posters who also got one of the mass PMs and he hasn't posted here in YEARS.

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I never said it was an EMAIL.

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No, you didn't: I did.

You see, a private message is in fact a particular type of e-mail.

If a troll sent out "Bullshit Mass PM's" as you claim, one would think other VCT members got them as well, but no one has yet chimed in.

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To be fair, some Posters who also got the mass PMs haven't posted here in YEARS. Maxpen was one of the Posters who also got one of the mass PMs and he hasn't posted here in YEARS.

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I never got them, is it possible you have this forum confused with a different forum, like Gamblers Anonymous for example?

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No, you didn't: I did.

You see, a private message is in fact a particular type of e-mail.

If a troll sent out "Bullshit Mass PM's" as you claim, one would think other VCT members got them as well, but no one has yet chimed in.

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To be fair, some Posters who also got the mass PMs haven't posted here in YEARS. Maxpen was one of the Posters who also got one of the mass PMs and he hasn't posted here in YEARS.

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I never got them, is it possible you have this forum confused with a different forum, like Gamblers Anonymous for example?

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No, it was this forum. I specifically remember the guy giving mass PMs trying to get us to turn on Dan Druff. He said,"Dan Druff," not just ,"The Admin."

Karen, when you use the term "Mass PMs" it implies he PMed ALL of us, or maybe just a large number of us, but I never got the PM and I wonder whether any others besides DGenBen and I will chime in and confirm "We never got such a PM?"

You say that Dan is the one who told you it had been a "Mass PM:" hopefully he will chime in with confirmation and further details / updates.

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Karen, when you use the term "Mass PMs" it implies he PMed ALL of us, or maybe just a large number of us, but I never got the PM and I wonder whether any others besides DGenBen and I will chime in and confirm "We never got such a PM?"

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I did not receive such an email.

Also wondering how Karen/Tasha knows who did and who didn't? That is curious to me.

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Karen, when you use the term "Mass PMs" it implies he PMed ALL of us, or maybe just a large number of us, but I never got the PM and I wonder whether any others besides DGenBen and I will chime in and confirm "We never got such a PM?"

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I did not receive such an email.

Also wondering how Karen/Tasha knows who did and who didn't? That is curious to me.

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Karen/Tasha says many curious things. In fact if we made a list of all of them, this would probably be lower down on the list.

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Karen, when you use the term "Mass PMs" it implies he PMed ALL of us, or maybe just a large number of us, but I never got the PM and I wonder whether any others besides DGenBen and I will chime in and confirm "We never got such a PM?"

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I did not receive such an email.

Also wondering how Karen/Tasha knows who did and who didn't? That is curious to me.

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In her opening post she wrote:


"Dan responded something like,"The guy claiming to have credit card information of a whole bunch of random VCT users and will use their credit card and go on HUGE shopping sprees if they don't turn against me is a Troll I banned three years ago for Trolling. He doesn't have any VCT Posters credit card information, he was just plain lying in an effort to try to get VCT Posters to turn against me in a panic. I am glad that you guys reported him to me and didn't turn against me. I have banned his new Account." "

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Karen, when you use the term "Mass PMs" it implies he PMed ALL of us, or maybe just a large number of us, but I never got the PM and I wonder whether any others besides DGenBen and I will chime in and confirm "We never got such a PM?"

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I did not receive such an email.

Also wondering how Karen/Tasha knows who did and who didn't? That is curious to me.

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Karen/Tasha says many curious things. In fact if we made a list of all of them, this would probably be lower down on the list.

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I know. I usually don't pay her no mind.

Just saying, she seems to know who did and didn't receive this private message. Almost like she sent it out. :rolleyes:

Since a consumer’s credit credit card liability for fraud is limited by law to $50 if they report the fraud within the first 60 days, this may have been a false flag operation by Druff himself just to see who would turn on him for $50.

Or it could be Karen's attempt to garner unwarranted attention to herself; perhaps SHE wants to be nominated for having made the most bullshit claim on VCT?

But there is some stiff competition: 18 yo's in a row; seven months non-stop winning + max comped RFB; Newell; $1.5M VP jackpot on just one pull.

"You go, girl!"

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Or it could be Karen's attempt to garner unwarranted attention to herself; perhaps SHE wants to be nominated for having made the most bullshit claim on VCT?

But there is some stiff competition: 18 yo's in a row; seven months non-stop winning + max comped RFB; Newell; $1.5M VP jackpot on just one pull.

"You go, girl!"

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This is where she may be a secret genius trolling us all.

Notice how her story is both plausible AND mathematically possible?

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Or it could be Karen's attempt to garner unwarranted attention to herself; perhaps SHE wants to be nominated for having made the most bullshit claim on VCT?

But there is some stiff competition: 18 yo's in a row; seven months non-stop winning + max comped RFB; Newell; $1.5M VP jackpot on just one pull.

"You go, girl!"

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I’ll take the retard with 7 months non stop winning + max comped RFB, plus a thriving law practice, unbeatable investment portfolio, unlimited travel and various “other” businesses… yet has time to masturbate to a nobody like KJ several times daily….also with hair growing out of his nose, ears and back like Rapunzel

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I did not receive such an email.

Also wondering how Karen/Tasha knows who did and who didn't? That is curious to me.

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Karen/Tasha says many curious things. In fact if we made a list of all of them, this would probably be lower down on the list.

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I know. I usually don't pay her no mind.

Just saying, she seems to know who did and didn't receive this private message. Almost like she sent it out. :rolleyes:

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I wasn't the one who sent out the mass PMs. I would NEVER try to turn on Dan like that or anyone for that matter. And it would do me ZERO good to send a mass PMs trying to get Posters to turn on Dan. Dan and I didn't have any major problems. There was the "Posting limit for about four years for Trolling," thing, but it wasn't major enough for me to go send mass PMs trying to get Posters to turn on Dan Druff." And besides I got one of these PMs MYSELF. WHY would I send that PM to MYSELF?

About Maxpen, he actually hasn't posted here in MONTHS, not YEARS(I posted in this thread YEARS when it is actually MONTHS) His last post was in April of this year, not YEARS ago. Maxpen actually stopped posting on WOV two years ago, not VCT.

Karen, how do you explain the fact that no other posters here have chimed in to back you up, saying to the effect "That Karen, she's not a lying attention whore...I also received one of the mass PM's she was talking about."

*crickets*

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Karen, how do you explain the fact that no other posters here have chimed in to back you up, saying to the effect "That Karen, she's not a lying attention whore...I also received one of the mass PM's she was talking about."

*crickets*

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Some of the people who received the mass PMs haven't posted in a long time. Maxpen got one of those mass PMs and he last posted in April.

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Karen, how do you explain the fact that no other posters here have chimed in to back you up, saying to the effect "That Karen, she's not a lying attention whore...I also received one of the mass PM's she was talking about."

*crickets*

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Some of the people who received the mass PMs haven't posted in a long time. Maxpen got one of those mass PMs and he last posted in April.

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If some of the people who received the mass PMs haven’t posted at all in a long time, that would make sense.

It would also make sense if all of the people who received the mass PMs have only posted some in a long time.

But all of the people who received the mass PMs not posting at all in a long time?

It is comically ironic that this issue has arisen in a thread created by Karen which she titled " Here in this thread is the MOST bullshit claim on VCT EVER!"

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It is comically ironic that this issue has arisen in a thread titled " Here in this thread is the MOST bullshit claim on VCT EVER!"

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My thought as well. That title would be a tough one to fill like trying to find “the MOST wettest water in the OCEAN EVER!”

I can't believe I am being sucked into another one of Karen/tashas thread and discussions. But I have to ask again. How does she know who did and didn't receive this PM. :confused: Take MaxPen, who she has brought up 5 times now. How does Karen/tasha know maxpen received this pm?

PM's come with the sender's ID.. it sure is"funny" that Karen "neglected" to tell us who sent it to her.

* "Funny" as in "This meat tastes funny."

Maxpen MENTIONED getting the Mass PM on the public part of VCT, which is how I know that Maxpen received the mass PM too.

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Maxpen MENTIONED getting the Mass PM on the public part of VCT, which is how I know that Maxpen received the mass PM too.

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So what, this isn't something new? This is something that happened years ago that you are now re-hashing? :confused: See I should have known better than to even read a thread of yours? :mad: Mad at myself.

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Maxpen MENTIONED getting the Mass PM on the public part of VCT, which is how I know that Maxpen received the mass PM too.

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Link?

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Maxpen MENTIONED getting the Mass PM on the public part of VCT, which is how I know that Maxpen received the mass PM too.

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So what, this isn't something new? This is something that happened years ago that you are now re-hashing? :confused: See I should have known better than to even read a thread of yours? :mad: Mad at myself.

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It's the most bullshit claim ever in the entire history of VCT, no matter how old it is.

*further down the rabbit hole I go...*

Karen, WHO sent you the PM?

Surely you know that: so, why didn't you tell us in the first place?

What the fuck girl...just angling for attention / relevance again, are ya?

You and that buffoon you have for your "attorney" sure are "birds of a feather."

So lets see if I have this straight. Druff pisses off a lot of people. Including me with his allowing of the hatred and lies about people that he does. But I have read some other much worse stuff. some real life claims of stuff he has supposedly done that piss off people. I haven't looked into it to see what may or may not be true. But I am just saying he pisses off a lot of people.

So one of those that he pissed off came here, with some kind of trolling/thread type mass PM trying to get people to troll or turn on Druff? And this was apparently some time ago? And Tasha thinks it is relevant now for whatever reason. I can tell you that anyone that received such a PM, claiming the sender had their CC information, completely dismissed it as nonsense. Well make that anybody except 1 member. :rolleyes:

Most of us get these kind of Fphishing/trolling emails (not Pms) frequently. And likewise dismiss them. Good God Tasha, I hope you aren't falling for this shit with whatever email accounts you have. This is life on the internet in 2024.

Tasha I think you should post more here on VCT.

Towards the end of your life, which is hopefully a long long time from now, you don’t want to look back and say to yourself “Man, I wish I would have posted more on VCT!”

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So lets see if I have this straight. Druff pisses off a lot of people. Including me with his allowing of the hatred and lies about people that he does. But I have read some other much worse stuff. some real life claims of stuff he has supposedly done that piss off people. I haven't looked into it to see what may or may not be true. But I am just saying he pisses off a lot of people.

So one of those that he pissed off came here, with some kind of trolling/thread type mass PM trying to get people to troll or turn on Druff? And this was apparently some time ago? And Tasha thinks it is relevant now for whatever reason. I can tell you that anyone that received such a PM, claiming the sender had their CC information, completely dismissed it as nonsense. Well make that anybody except 1 member. :rolleyes:

Most of us get these kind of Fphishing/trolling emails (not Pms) frequently. And likewise dismiss them. Good God Tasha, I hope you aren't falling for this shit with whatever email accounts you have. This is life on the internet in 2024.

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I brought up the incident that happened YEARS ago because Posters were talking about bullshit claims so I decided to post the most bullshit claim in the history of VCT. :)

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So lets see if I have this straight. Druff pisses off a lot of people. Including me with his allowing of the hatred and lies about people that he does. But I have read some other much worse stuff. some real life claims of stuff he has supposedly done that piss off people. I haven't looked into it to see what may or may not be true. But I am just saying he pisses off a lot of people.

So one of those that he pissed off came here, with some kind of trolling/thread type mass PM trying to get people to troll or turn on Druff? And this was apparently some time ago? And Tasha thinks it is relevant now for whatever reason. I can tell you that anyone that received such a PM, claiming the sender had their CC information, completely dismissed it as nonsense. Well make that anybody except 1 member. :rolleyes:

Most of us get these kind of Fphishing/trolling emails (not Pms) frequently. And likewise dismiss them. Good God Tasha, I hope you aren't falling for this shit with whatever email accounts you have. This is life on the internet in 2024.

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I brought up the incident that happened YEARS ago because Posters were talking about bullshit claims so I decided to post the most bullshit claim in the history of VCT. :)

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I don't even think this incident you brought up is really a bullshit "claim". Bullshit threat maybe.

The bullshit claims on this forum are basically the ones that I have called out. Singer and Mdawg battling for spots 1 & 2. For those that chose not to believe what I have shared, feel free to include me. You would be wrong, but feel free.

The one other one that I would include would be Moses who I also challenged his claim. technically Moses claim of being a professional blackjack player and sports bettor in Reno occurred elsewhere and he sort of brought it here with him. The REAL problem with Moses claim was not the claim itself but rather the location. You couldn't do what he claimed in Reno. If he was in Vegas or even the midwest or east coast claiming what he claimed, maybe. But NOT Reno.

Maybe Alan's 18 y.o. in a row also qualified as bullshit claim, but I try to cut him some slack, because unlike the others, he wasn't out to mislead anyone. I think he just mis-remembers what he saw. And after a while it was just fun to give him shit about it because he was never going to accept that he did not see what he believes he did.

Maybe there are other bullshit claims that I am forgetting or occurred before my time.

addon: Maybe Redietz is making a run at the bullshit claims. ;) But I am going to cut him some slack too. I believe he made a living involved with sports betting for many years which is what he claimed. It is just starting to look like it was more along the lines of touting and selling picks vs the picking winners he sort of lead to believe.

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So lets see if I have this straight. Druff pisses off a lot of people. Including me with his allowing of the hatred and lies about people that he does. But I have read some other much worse stuff. some real life claims of stuff he has supposedly done that piss off people. I haven't looked into it to see what may or may not be true. But I am just saying he pisses off a lot of people.

So one of those that he pissed off came here, with some kind of trolling/thread type mass PM trying to get people to troll or turn on Druff? And this was apparently some time ago? And Tasha thinks it is relevant now for whatever reason. I can tell you that anyone that received such a PM, claiming the sender had their CC information, completely dismissed it as nonsense. Well make that anybody except 1 member. :rolleyes:

Most of us get these kind of Fphishing/trolling emails (not Pms) frequently. And likewise dismiss them. Good God Tasha, I hope you aren't falling for this shit with whatever email accounts you have. This is life on the internet in 2024.

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I brought up the incident that happened YEARS ago because Posters were talking about bullshit claims so I decided to post the most bullshit claim in the history of VCT. :)

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I don't even think this incident you brought up is really a bullshit "claim". Bullshit threat maybe.

The bullshit claims on this forum are basically the ones that I have called out. Singer and Mdawg battling for spots 1 & 2. For those that chose not to believe what I have shared, feel free to include me. You would be wrong, but feel free.

The one other one that I would include would be Moses who I also challenged his claim. technically Moses claim of being a professional blackjack player and sports bettor in Reno occurred elsewhere and he sort of brought it here with him. The REAL problem with Moses claim was not the claim itself but rather the location. You couldn't do what he claimed in Reno. If he was in Vegas or even the midwest or east coast claiming what he claimed, maybe. But NOT Reno.

Maybe Alan's 18 y.o. in a row also qualified as bullshit claim, but I try to cut him some slack, because unlike the others, he wasn't out to mislead anyone. I think he just mis-remembers what he saw. And after a while it was just fun to give him shit about it because he was never going to accept that he did not see what he believes he did.

Maybe there are other bullshit claims that I am forgetting or occurred before my time.

addon: Maybe Redietz is making a run at the bullshit claims. ;) But I am going to cut him some slack too. I believe he made a living involved with sports betting for many years which is what he claimed. It is just starting to look like it was more along the lines of touting and selling picks vs the picking winners he sort of lead to believe.

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You can be a -EV sports bettor and still make a living if your freeroll oriented hustle is good enough

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You can be a -EV sports bettor and still make a living if your freeroll oriented hustle is good enough

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Yes you can. I would consider that more of a "hustle" than an advantage play. But THAT is just not how Red has portrayed himself all this time.

Funny thing about advantage play though. It isn't just all guys making 60, 80, 100k a year and even some making way more. There is a whole subculture of lower income advantage players. Some making 20-30k. Some making less, sort of in flux between degenerate gamblers incorporating a bit of advantage play.

Again, going back a decade, when my partner and I made the rounds at local casinos, me playing blackjack, him our machine play, I would encounter many of these what I call "hustlers" and that is what they did for a "living" if you want to call it that. (Very possible some had some sort of government income as well). I remember talking to one guy over at Gold coast that was part of a group of guys that did this and bounced around living at the different Seigle suite type weekly places.

If they really made what little living they made from casino play and not just some assistance check, these guys would be "advantage players". It is not what I or most on these forums think of when we say or hear advantage player. But technically.... :rolleyes:

It's a bullshit claim because he claimed he had the credit card information of anonymous Posters online, people who don't even post under their REAL names(Speaking of posting under a real name, a Poster on WOV chose his REAL NAME as a Username and was a Casino Employee. He soon realized what an AWFUL idea choosing his REAL NAME as a Username was and asked WOV Admins for permission to change his username. WOV Admins said that the Software did not allow for Username changes. At WOV sign up, it is said that Usernames are PERMANENT. The Guy must have glossed over the "PERMANENT thing when he chose to use his REAL NAME as a Username.

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Again, going back a decade, when my partner and I made the rounds at local casino

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I thought I just read you saying something about not actually being with a partner 20 years older than you? Did I misunderstand? If you were lying about that or claim to have lied able that. WOW... MIND BLOWN!

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It is pretty sick one would deny their spouse. Especially since that is truth. There's no doubt I've seen them both. But this FraudJ is a special kind of character. He lacks any kind of moral compass.

I guess that's why he prostitutes himself.:cool:

One sick puppy....RIP

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I’m also the only one who figured out what Jason does for a living. Blackjack was always a cover story, you guys just didn’t believe it lol.

To be fair Kewj didn’t get into the escort business until after his partner passed away. It’s my understanding that him, and his late partner did do some low rolling AP things around town just enough to get by.

Once I confirmed all this I kind of felt sorry for the dude. I let him be, because it wasn’t worth my time to do a full report. The guy is literally just a pathetic lonely gay escort. Maybe he makes up all these lies for entertainment. Is clear that he spends most of his days reading, and posting on every gambling forum on the internet. Sad man real sad lol neighbor guy fucked his brain up real good

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Again, Karen: what was the forum name of this alleged troll?

Hell, if you can reconstruct conversations from years ago as you've attempted to do here, then recalling his handle should be a no-brainer.

So...who sent out the mass PM's?

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Again, Karen: what was the forum name of this alleged troll?

Hell, if you can reconstruct conversations from years ago as you've attempted to do here, then recalling his handle should be a no-brainer.

So...who sent out the mass PM's?

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I don't remember who sent the mass PMs..Dan BANNED him like the second day and I can't find his PM or his name.

Ok so why the fuck are you bringing it up again? It wasn't even a real thing to do with this forum. It was somebody that had an issue with Druff from some place else, that just trolled him here for a day or two.

And no one got hurt. Even you, our most gullible member knew it was bullshit. So what the fuck is this thread about? Do you REALLY think that is the worst thing that has happened here?

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Ok so why the fuck are you bringing it up again? It wasn't even a real thing to do with this forum. It was somebody that had an issue with Druff from some place else, that just trolled him here for a day or two.

And no one got hurt. Even you, our most gullible member knew it was bullshit. So what the fuck is this thread about? Do you REALLY think that is the worst thing that has happened here?

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When have I EVER come across as gullible? :confused:

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When have I EVER come across as gullible? :confused:

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Interesting fact. If you google 'Gullible', the first answer that comes up is one of Tasha's posts on this very forum.

Good to see OD pop in here. One of the true good ones left over there.

Karen bringing the hits and shits has this place getting more attention lately.

Who knows, maybe me pushing V’s literary genius over at WoV is bringing them here, most of them anonymous of course.

We know good ‘ol Darky Oz and his Merry Band of Haitian slaves stop in occasionally to cry they are “offended” by the content here.

Boz, good on ya for posting some of my stuff on WoV: the lads there need to be made aware of the clear and present danger which Karen presents to any board she regularly squats and shits on.

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Don't ever worry about saying anything that contradicts the UNKewl one.

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No one should take your advice regarding blackjack, because you haven’t proven to be an expert. Literally they should do the opposite of what you say. I’m not your sweetheart either

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Speaking of WoV, MDawg again making an ass of Darky over there. Not that it’s hard but he finds a way to do it and make it clear for everyone to see while staying within the “rules”.

If only he could do the things permitted here over there, old Darky would snap.