Trip Report

Not much to report. I'll run down some practical matters for those planning an LV visit in the near future.

1) Driving still a pain in the F1 ass. I managed a dirt cheap $100 four-day rental from Priceline, insurance included. Things weren't quite as bad as last year at this time, but it was still a mess. Trop west of the strip a mess. Flamingo west of the strip worse. Flamingo a block east from the strip full of construction. Lane messes and constrictions from the airport all the way in. Took me more than an hour to go airport to downtown on Sunday. Took an hour and a half to go South Point (kewlJs' fave) to downtown Tuesday. The rodeo had left by Sunday late, but there was the Monday night Raiders' game influx and the NBA in-season tourney final bogging everything down in general, even though I avoided the times those would be the biggest issue.

2) Had the Steelers beaten the Eagles Sunday, I would have pulled a few triggers, but I really did very little. Scouted all football odds and potential contests. Nothing worthwhile. Circa still the most useful place if you're just checking one source for futures. But I did the legwork and checked Westgate, South Point, and so on.

3) Ate okay. No steakhouse excursions this trip. I still recommend Pink's at the Plaza for donuts and coffee, and I still like the Main Street buffet to start the day. Big room, bright, lots of air. Skipped many of the classics this trip -- no shrimp cocktail at Fremont, no South Point breakfast buffet with bloody marys. Had breakfast at Magnolia's, as I always do, and dinner at Claim Jumper's. But:

3) Shout out to Esther's Kitchen and its new location, half a block from the previous. Place looks great. Menu, I think, is improved, and it could be my imagination, but I think in general prices are lower.

4) Prior to eating at Esther's, I perused the shops. My fave is the place with the giant metal dinosaurs. I love this stuff. Lifesize Alien and Predator greet you as you walk in. One of the shops had a collection of vintage Stardust baseball caps. I did not check the prices but will do so next time.

5) My gambling consisted of video poker (-$200) and a couple of ridiculous slots (Frankenstein and an NFL slot). Mickey tells me the NFL slot is vulturable. I know nothing, except I'm amazed that the Frankenstein slot is popular. It's classic Karloff. I try to give the Plaza some video poker business, as I appreciate their effort with promos and free lunches and all that. I'll probably stay there next time.

6) Stayed three nights at the Golden Nugget and one at the Tuscany, as is my usual pattern. Road closures created some issues getting in and out of the Tuscany, but not too bad. Nugget was very good, as usual. Tuscany put me in the "B" complex, which had been refurbished and painted recently. Both places are my cup of tea. The Tuscany reminds me of the resort in Dirty Dancing.

Weather was fine. A couple of days in the 60's. Lows in the high 30's at night. Walking from the Tuscany to the strip was a little bit of a pain with fencing up and crossing paths closed, but it was okay. And, oh yes, Ellis Island was being heavily renovated (still), so I skipped the steak dinner.

Frankenstein is also exploitable. It's one of the more popular games with slot AP's.

You didn't see those multipliers building as you were playing? Imagine those multipliers are already there when you start playing. That's what AP's look for. How many multipliers did you leave them?

I can't imagine too many. I ran $20 through each machine and actually hit the bonus on Frankenstein, which led me to break even on the day. I have no idea what I was looking at, but I was big Karloff fan as a kid. Had a collection of Famous Monsters of Filmland magazines.

I'd rather listen to "It's Alive!!" over and over as opposed to "Push the Button!," which evidently is right behind the bank of video poker machines I played at the Plaza.

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Meanwhile some new guy was crushing it.

The Frankenstein slot should have been called Frankenstein's Monster since it is Frankenstein's Monster that is the main character in this slot and not Dr. Frankenstein (Dr. Frankenstein is merely one of the payline symbols in this slot).

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Originally Posted by redietz

Scouted all football odds(edit)


Nothing worthwhile.
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Meanwhile some new guy was crushing it.

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See, this is what makes vegascasinotalk so worthwhile. I post a trip report, completely factual, with details, obviously not promoting or aggrandizing or even saying anything remotely positive about myself in any way.

So I get responses regarding my putting $20 in Frankenstein (a Dancer move to prevent pigeonholing as a video-poker-only person) and a comment about some "new guy crushing it" regarding what, futures? Okay, great, post the evidence. I love when folks beat sports books.

I wasn't talking about straight betting. I've won seven of the last eight weeks with a marginal loss after breaking even the first eight weeks. I'm not betting enough to say I'm "crushing it," but I guess one could say I'm cruising. WIth dinner money won on my only future (Vols at 50-1), which wasn't great, considering one could get 25-1 if one had waited until the playoffs were set.

And nary a word about lunch with the inestimable Mr. Munchkin, which was fun and insightful, as always.

But I get these responses from Axelwolf and mickey. Nothing positive. The great Wolf, living the life of Riley while hanging with the adjunct prof. Casinos quake at their approach.

Nice to see an actual trip report. But damn you get so defensive quickly. I don’t see Mick as antagonizing you at all. He was showing you what is a semi obvious AP opportunity as the multipliers build. The trick is knowing the right number to play.

Shocked you actually pay for insurance on a rental car, most major travel cards cover it. It’s one of the biggest scams out there but you still got a good deal.

Wish I was there to catch up, one of these days.

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Originally Posted by redietz

Scouted all football odds(edit)


Nothing worthwhile.
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Meanwhile some new guy was crushing it.

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See, this is what makes vegascasinotalk so worthwhile. I post a trip report, completely factual, with details, obviously not promoting or aggrandizing or even saying anything remotely positive about myself in any way.

So I get responses regarding my putting $20 in Frankenstein (a Dancer move to prevent pigeonholing as a video-poker-only person) and a comment about some "new guy crushing it" regarding what, futures? Okay, great, post the evidence. I love when folks beat sports books.

I wasn't talking about straight betting. I've won seven of the last eight weeks with a marginal loss after breaking even the first eight weeks. I'm not betting enough to say I'm "crushing it," but I guess one could say I'm cruising. WIth dinner money won on my only future (Vols at 50-1), which wasn't great, considering one could get 25-1 if one had waited until the playoffs were set.

And nary a word about lunch with the inestimable Mr. Munchkin, which was fun and insightful, as always.

But I get these responses from Axelwolf and mickey. Nothing positive. The great Wolf, living the life of Riley while hanging with the adjunct prof. Casinos quake at their approach.

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Baby doll chin up I enjoyed your TR

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Originally Posted by redietz

Scouted all football odds(edit)


Nothing worthwhile.
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Meanwhile some new guy was crushing it.

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See, this is what makes vegascasinotalk so worthwhile. I post a trip report, completely factual, with details, obviously not promoting or aggrandizing or even saying anything remotely positive about myself in any way.

So I get responses regarding my putting $20 in Frankenstein (a Dancer move to prevent pigeonholing as a video-poker-only person) and a comment about some "new guy crushing it" regarding what, futures? Okay, great, post the evidence. I love when folks beat sports books.

I wasn't talking about straight betting. I've won seven of the last eight weeks with a marginal loss after breaking even the first eight weeks. I'm not betting enough to say I'm "crushing it," but I guess one could say I'm cruising. WIth dinner money won on my only future (Vols at 50-1), which wasn't great, considering one could get 25-1 if one had waited until the playoffs were set.

And nary a word about lunch with the inestimable Mr. Munchkin, which was fun and insightful, as always.

But I get these responses from Axelwolf and mickey. Nothing positive. The great Wolf, living the life of Riley while hanging with the adjunct prof. Casinos quake at their approach.

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Baby doll chin up I enjoyed your TR

That fucking much

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Originally Posted by The Boz

Nice to see an actual trip report. But damn you get so defensive quickly. I don’t see Mick as antagonizing you at all. He was showing you what is a semi obvious AP opportunity as the multipliers build. The trick is knowing the right number to play.

Shocked you actually pay for insurance on a rental car, most major travel cards cover it. It’s one of the biggest scams out there but you still got a good deal.

Wish I was there to catch up, one of these days.

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Mickey was less-than-neutral with his post. I was aware the NFL slot was exploitable, thanks to mickey's previous posts, but I was just mix-and-matching to set my profile a little. I wasn't going to play a slot machine for any length of time with a 96-hour feet-on-the-ground time frame.

The rental car -- my cards don't cover the insurance free any longer -- it broke my heart when Discover stopped doing it -- so I use the el cheapo Priceline option. The trick to Priceline is that you sign up with an options selection (Alamo, Dollar, and so on -- I don't use the discounters), and then they try to stick you with an electric car. I then say something like, "Great, well, I'm looking forward to the tutorial; hope I don't wreck it" when you get to the desk, and then the booth guy, who will be responsible for you learning how to use the thing, says, "Ummm, wait, I think we have a nice gasoline RV right here," and off you go. I wanted to ask you about the credit card option for rental car insurance -- my cards are not top-of-the-line; they are pretty ordinary with maybe 15K limits except for Discover, which had been my go-to card. But Discover dropped the insurance coverage. So what would you recommend? I'm probably going to qualify for almost any card right now, so I will follow your advice. I appreciate it. Yeah, I used cards for insurance coverage up until the pandemic started, then the peon cards dropped it for the most part, and Discover quit.

Note: Boz's advice here will be worth it's weight in gold, so pay attention.

Two further comments: If you get out to South Point, they have decorated all of the trees surrounding the casino parking areas, so it's really quite old-school lovely. And I realized, after reading what I wrote as a summary, you know what's curious about the thousands of kewlJs posts? No details. None. Not about eating, driving, decorations, music, what they do for entertainment, absolutely none. I bet a police interviewer would have a forensics blast with analyzing the kewlJs' posts.

And yes, MDawg, please quote me, and put another coffee on my tab.

Also, just for the record, the airport Starbucks is cheaper than the $6.50 a cup GN Starbucks. Forensics details -- the key to credibility.

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Mickey was less-than-neutral with his post. I was aware the NFL slot was exploitable, thanks to mickey's previous posts, but I was just mix-and-matching to set my profile a little. I wasn't going to play a slot machine for any length of time with a 96-hour feet-on-the-ground time frame.

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I was actually quite soft on you because my first thought was "goddam, this dude just don't have a clue!" You watched those Frankenstein multipliers collect up as you were spinning and a light bulb doesn't go off in your head?

The first one of those Frankensteins I seen the graphics caught my attention. Ploppies were playing them and I'm watching those multipliers getting banked. I said "Self! You are going to have to analyze that game."

Redietz, I figure you are great at football handicapping. But sportsbetting ain't the only thing out there. You just don't have the mentality for the rest of it. I can understand you not figuring out the NFL slot, but Frankenstein? That shit was right in your face. You didn't have to figure the whole thing out on the spot. But you should have gotten some kind of a clue that something was up.

It don't make you a bad person. It just makes you a ploppie.

I'll see if I can find some footage of the NFL slot to give you a clue.

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Originally Posted by redietz

Mickey was less-than-neutral with his post. I was aware the NFL slot was exploitable, thanks to mickey's previous posts, but I was just mix-and-matching to set my profile a little. I wasn't going to play a slot machine for any length of time with a 96-hour feet-on-the-ground time frame.

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I was actually quite soft on you because my first thought was "goddam, this dude just don't have a clue!" You watched those Frankenstein multipliers collect up as you were spinning and a light bulb doesn't go off in your head?

The first one of those Frankensteins I seen the graphics caught my attention. Ploppies were playing them and I'm watching those multipliers getting banked. I said "Self! You are going to have to analyze that game."

Redietz, I figure you are great at football handicapping. But sportsbetting ain't the only thing out there. You just don't have the mentality for the rest of it. I can understand you not figuring out the NFL slot, but Frankenstein? That shit was right in your face. You didn't have to figure the whole thing out on the spot. But you should have gotten some kind of a clue that something was up.

It don't make you a bad person. It just makes you a ploppie.

I'll see if I can find some footage of the NFL slot to give you a clue.

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Now be nice. I am slightly aware of some things. We have reached that point in the history of slots where -- get this -- Dancer is playing video poker as cover for his slot play. Whodathunkit? I don't play any serious amounts on slots -- I wouldn't do that without knowing what I was doing. I'm probably down $200 lifetime playing slot machines.

By the way, my current loss dropped my lifetime winnings on video poker under 5K. Might be time to call it a day on the video poker front.

I personally use a Barclays Silver American Airlines card for 99% of my spending. Because I fly AA almost exclusively, it makes sense for me to get all the miles I can to use. Yes it covers rental car insurance but also gives 2 miles per dollar on hotels and rentals so it adds up.

As for cards that cover rental car insurance, there are less than there were years ago but these banks/cards are good options.

All Wells Fargo cards
All Chase cards
All American Express
All Capital One Cards

But it’s important to know and occasionally check you benefits because cards change often with just the legal requirement of notifying you, usually the customer misses it.

As for Discover, I’m shocked it’s still popular with only 1% cash back along with limited 5% each quarter. I say limited because there is a limit on how much you can get back. Even the basic Wells Fargo card is 2% and others offer even more on targeted categories.

Finding the right card is an individual decision based on spending habits but the research can pay off big time. Obviously only if you follow rule #1 of card whoring….pay the balance off each month.

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Originally Posted by redietz

, you know what's curious about the thousands of kewlJs posts? No details. None. Not about eating, driving, decorations, music, what they do for entertainment, absolutely none.

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Are you fucking out of your mind Redietz? :confused: No need to answer. Your posts over the past year or two speak for themselves. I think there is almost an unanimous answer to that question.

No AP has shared more details of what they do and in mostly real time, than I have over the years, including where I ate on many days. Used to be a lot of buffets at Station and Boyd properties, or East Cannery back in the day or sometimes the little coffe shop restuartants at Club Fortune or even Jerry's nugget. Now that buffets at the local places are mostly gone, I still share details of lunches at Victory Burger, and Bacon Nation ect. That doesn't sound familiar? :confused:

But the fact is that I share less and less about what I do now, playing, eating, everything. All sharing my experiences as an AP got me was people calling me a liar.

BUT, I enjoy most trip reports from others, especially Vegas, including yours Red. As long as they are real and not full of bullshit gambling winning claims, and all the non winning claims only meant to impress people. I am speaking of Dawgs reports of course. Yours, Red are fine. Enjoyable. For the most part that of a guy who is enjoying himself and enjoys being in Vegas.

But stop lying because you think I am all of the sudden your enemy. I have shared more of my experiences in detail than anyone on this forum.

Two-Minute Drill !!

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Originally Posted by redietz

, you know what's curious about the thousands of kewlJs posts? No details. None. Not about eating, driving, decorations, music, what they do for entertainment, absolutely none.

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Are you fucking out of your mind Redietz? :confused: No need to answer. Your posts over the past year or two speak for themselves. I think there is almost an unanimous answer to that question.

No AP has shared more details of what they do and in mostly real time, than I have over the years, including where I ate on many days. Used to be a lot of buffets at Station and Boyd properties, or East Cannery back in the day or sometimes the little coffe shop restuartants at Club Fortune or even Jerry's nugget. Now that buffets at the local places are mostly gone, I still share details of lunches at Victory Burger, and Bacon Nation ect. That doesn't sound familiar? :confused:

But the fact is that I share less and less about what I do now, playing, eating, everything. All sharing my experiences as an AP got me was people calling me a liar.

BUT, I enjoy most trip reports from others, especially Vegas, including yours Red. As long as they are real and not full of bullshit gambling winning claims, and all the non winning claims only meant to impress people. I am speaking of Dawgs reports of course. Yours, Red are fine. Enjoyable. For the most part that of a guy who is enjoying himself and enjoys being in Vegas.

But stop lying because you think I am all of the sudden your enemy. I have shared more of my experiences in detail than anyone on this forum.

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I'm almost certain a forensics expert would disagree with you. Your "details" are all generic and have no elements that could be checked/verified in real time.

The lack of detail, in fact, is stunning. Your posts simply don't contain any descriptions that are verifiable. Almost no detail at all regarding places or food or people or events outside a pit. When you step back and examine your thousands of posts, there is no (to use an overused phrase) "there" there. It's very, very odd.

I think that's what triggers so many people to believe most of your stuff is invented. Again, I can't say one way or another, but it's very strange.

It's as if you move through a world, and report on it, where the only thing in focus (to use an Alan Mendelson double entendre) is you, and even that varies all over the place.

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Your "details" are all generic and have no elements that could be checked/verified in real time.

The lack of detail, in fact, is stunning. Your posts simply don't contain any descriptions that are verifiable.

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And just how would you suggest that I or any other advantage player whether mickeycrimm, Axelwolf, any other APs on this forum, or any other forum, or even your boy Munchkin, go about posting “details’ of their play that can be checked or verified?

You seem to be name dropping Munchkin this week, so did you ask him when you had lunch, just what “details” of his play he has EVER posted that could be verified?

Any form of doing what you are suggesting would be giving up the anonymity that APs work hard to preserve and would have consequence akin to walking into a casino with “advantage player” tattooed on our forehead.

What is stunning to me, and I would bet every other advantage player that posts on this forum is your complete lack of understanding what it means to be an advantage player and the relationship between APs and casinos.

For a guy who claims to have spent 100 days a year in Vegas for 45 years, that lack of understanding is what is stunning.

Keel you can't even verify a surfboard in a bedroom in your home.

There are two reasons why UNKewlJ’s stories are so bland and generic. One is because he’s lying. He can’t flesh out what he never did and simply lifted from what he read or heard. The second is that he has all the personality of a wooden rocking chair and couldn’t come up with much interesting to say period.

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Originally Posted by redietz

Your "details" are all generic and have no elements that could be checked/verified in real time.

The lack of detail, in fact, is stunning. Your posts simply don't contain any descriptions that are verifiable.

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And just how would you suggest that I or any other advantage player whether mickeycrimm, Axelwolf, any other APs on this forum, or any other forum, or even your boy Munchkin, go about posting “details’ of their play that can be checked or verified?

You seem to be name dropping Munchkin this week, so did you ask him when you had lunch, just what “details” of his play he has EVER posted that could be verified?

Any form of doing what you are suggesting would be giving up the anonymity that APs work hard to preserve and would have consequence akin to walking into a casino with “advantage player” tattooed on our forehead.

What is stunning to me, and I would bet every other advantage player that posts on this forum is your complete lack of understanding what it means to be an advantage player and the relationship between APs and casinos.

For a guy who claims to have spent 100 days a year in Vegas for 45 years, that lack of understanding is what is stunning.

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What's stunning is your persistent dishonesty.

Nobody said you should "go about posting 'details' of their play." Not even close.

What I said was that it's stunning that you never mention details of, oh let's see, where and what you eat, what shows you see, what LV-oriented things you do (with details). what other "APs" you hang with recreationally, what you and they do, what effects this or that have on you (like construction that ties up half the city), what odd LV locals you run into, how week-to-week changes in traffic and tourism and events affect you, and on and on.

The devil, as they say, is in the details. And there are very, very few details.

Even your silly attempts to label these comments of mine as asking you to "reveal details of your play" are stupid, manipulative, and obvious "misdirections," to use one of your fave phrases. You offer no "real life" details.

Any forensics interviewer would say the same things. It's just too obvious, after all these thousands of your posts.

And don't name drop Munchkin. He's more forthcoming in one lunch than you are in 5,000 posts. Now I hadn't mentioned that, but it is absolutely true.

You're just hanging yourself with your braindead posts that (1) try to frame me as saying things I did not and (2) persistently lack real-world details.

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I personally use a Barclays Silver American Airlines card for 99% of my spending. Because I fly AA almost exclusively, it makes sense for me to get all the miles I can to use. Yes it covers rental car insurance but also gives 2 miles per dollar on hotels and rentals so it adds up.

As for cards that cover rental car insurance, there are less than there were years ago but these banks/cards are good options.

All Wells Fargo cards
All Chase cards
All American Express
All Capital One Cards

But it’s important to know and occasionally check you benefits because cards change often with just the legal requirement of notifying you, usually the customer misses it.

As for Discover, I’m shocked it’s still popular with only 1% cash back along with limited 5% each quarter. I say limited because there is a limit on how much you can get back. Even the basic Wells Fargo card is 2% and others offer even more on targeted categories.

Finding the right card is an individual decision based on spending habits but the research can pay off big time. Obviously only if you follow rule #1 of card whoring….pay the balance off each month.

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Thanks, Boz. I have Capital One and Chase, but only their lower level cards, so they don't cover it. My Discover is the one with the 25K+ credit line, but they quit the rentals.

I will check out American Express. That is likely the way to go. Or I need to consolidate my Capital One. I have two separate AA Capital One accounts that if I consolidate, I likely qualify for the better card.

I appreciate the info. I'm going to try to square this away in the next couple of months, as it is a pain in the derriere.

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Originally Posted by redietz

, you know what's curious about the thousands of kewlJs posts? No details. None. Not about eating, driving, decorations, music, what they do for entertainment, absolutely none.

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Are you fucking out of your mind Redietz? :confused: No need to answer. Your posts over the past year or two speak for themselves. I think there is almost an unanimous answer to that question.

No AP has shared more details of what they do and in mostly real time, than I have over the years, including where I ate on many days. Used to be a lot of buffets at Station and Boyd properties, or East Cannery back in the day or sometimes the little coffe shop restuartants at Club Fortune or even Jerry's nugget. Now that buffets at the local places are mostly gone, I still share details of lunches at Victory Burger, and Bacon Nation ect. That doesn't sound familiar? :confused:

But the fact is that I share less and less about what I do now, playing, eating, everything. All sharing my experiences as an AP got me was people calling me a liar.

BUT, I enjoy most trip reports from others, especially Vegas, including yours Red. As long as they are real and not full of bullshit gambling winning claims, and all the non winning claims only meant to impress people. I am speaking of Dawgs reports of course. Yours, Red are fine. Enjoyable. For the most part that of a guy who is enjoying himself and enjoys being in Vegas.

But stop lying because you think I am all of the sudden your enemy. I have shared more of my experiences in detail than anyone on this forum.

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Again....always the victim. The #1 whine of every liar & denier.

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I personally use a Barclays Silver American Airlines card for 99% of my spending. Because I fly AA almost exclusively, it makes sense for me to get all the miles I can to use. Yes it covers rental car insurance but also gives 2 miles per dollar on hotels and rentals so it adds up.

As for cards that cover rental car insurance, there are less than there were years ago but these banks/cards are good options.

All Wells Fargo cards
All Chase cards
All American Express
All Capital One Cards

But it’s important to know and occasionally check you benefits because cards change often with just the legal requirement of notifying you, usually the customer misses it.

As for Discover, I’m shocked it’s still popular with only 1% cash back along with limited 5% each quarter. I say limited because there is a limit on how much you can get back. Even the basic Wells Fargo card is 2% and others offer even more on targeted categories.

Finding the right card is an individual decision based on spending habits but the research can pay off big time. Obviously only if you follow rule #1 of card whoring….pay the balance off each month.

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Thanks, Boz. I have Capital One and Chase, but only their lower level cards, so they don't cover it. My Discover is the one with the 25K+ credit line, but they quit the rentals.

I will check out American Express. That is likely the way to go. Or I need to consolidate my Capital One. I have two separate AA Capital One accounts that if I consolidate, I likely qualify for the better card.

I appreciate the info. I'm going to try to square this away in the next couple of months, as it is a pain in the derriere.

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I rent cars a lot during this time of year. In fact, I have a Avis right now for this 4 week winter trip we're on. I use AMEX but not because of the secondary insurance they provide. I regularly extended rentals, and with a no pre-set limit it always goes smoothly.

The insurance is always my own vehicle insurance. Whenever I have claims (such as for when the hawk that flew into my door diving for a rabbit crossing the road while I was going 75 early last week) the card covers my deductible. That's all I care about, since I stopped flying 2 decades ago.

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Originally Posted by The Boz

I personally use a Barclays Silver American Airlines card for 99% of my spending. Because I fly AA almost exclusively, it makes sense for me to get all the miles I can to use. Yes it covers rental car insurance but also gives 2 miles per dollar on hotels and rentals so it adds up.

As for cards that cover rental car insurance, there are less than there were years ago but these banks/cards are good options.

All Wells Fargo cards
All Chase cards
All American Express
All Capital One Cards

But it’s important to know and occasionally check you benefits because cards change often with just the legal requirement of notifying you, usually the customer misses it.

As for Discover, I’m shocked it’s still popular with only 1% cash back along with limited 5% each quarter. I say limited because there is a limit on how much you can get back. Even the basic Wells Fargo card is 2% and others offer even more on targeted categories.

Finding the right card is an individual decision based on spending habits but the research can pay off big time. Obviously only if you follow rule #1 of card whoring….pay the balance off each month.

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Thanks, Boz. I have Capital One and Chase, but only their lower level cards, so they don't cover it. My Discover is the one with the 25K+ credit line, but they quit the rentals.

I will check out American Express. That is likely the way to go. Or I need to consolidate my Capital One. I have two separate AA Capital One accounts that if I consolidate, I likely qualify for the better card.

I appreciate the info. I'm going to try to square this away in the next couple of months, as it is a pain in the derriere.

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Yea when I said All I meant the travel type cards like Venture with Cap one and the Sapphire with Chase. I believe most personal AMEX cards cover it but best to check first.

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Bingo!

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Originally Posted by redietz

, you know what's curious about the thousands of kewlJs posts? No details. None. Not about eating, driving, decorations, music, what they do for entertainment, absolutely none.

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Are you fucking out of your mind Redietz? :confused: No need to answer. Your posts over the past year or two speak for themselves. I think there is almost an unanimous answer to that question.

No AP has shared more details of what they do and in mostly real time, than I have over the years, including where I ate on many days. Used to be a lot of buffets at Station and Boyd properties, or East Cannery back in the day or sometimes the little coffe shop restuartants at Club Fortune or even Jerry's nugget. Now that buffets at the local places are mostly gone, I still share details of lunches at Victory Burger, and Bacon Nation ect. That doesn't sound familiar? :confused:

But the fact is that I share less and less about what I do now, playing, eating, everything. All sharing my experiences as an AP got me was people calling me a liar.

BUT, I enjoy most trip reports from others, especially Vegas, including yours Red. As long as they are real and not full of bullshit gambling winning claims, and all the non winning claims only meant to impress people. I am speaking of Dawgs reports of course. Yours, Red are fine. Enjoyable. For the most part that of a guy who is enjoying himself and enjoys being in Vegas.

But stop lying because you think I am all of the sudden your enemy. I have shared more of my experiences in detail than anyone on this forum.

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I'm almost certain a forensics expert would disagree with you. Your "details" are all generic and have no elements that could be checked/verified in real time.

The lack of detail, in fact, is stunning. Your posts simply don't contain any descriptions that are verifiable. Almost no detail at all regarding places or food or people or events outside a pit. When you step back and examine your thousands of posts, there is no (to use an overused phrase) "there" there. It's very, very odd.

I think that's what triggers so many people to believe most of your stuff is invented. Again, I can't say one way or another, but it's very strange.

It's as if you move through a world, and report on it, where the only thing in focus (to use an Alan Mendelson double entendre) is you, and even that varies all over the place.

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This post shows how much of AP play goes over your head. You are clueless. Whether you believe he does it or not is irrelevant to the massive amount of information KJ has given on blackjack strategy and tactics over the years.

My opinion on this, as always, is from neutral observation. KJ would not have to write a book. All he would have to do is go over his thousands of posts in the forums and cull out the ones with the most insight given. There are hundreds of those kind of posts.

I’ve had my own problems with KJ in the past but that is irrelevant as to what my opinion of his knowledge and ability at blackjack is.

Carry on with the troll wars, guys. It’s funny stuff.

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Your "details" are all generic and have no elements that could be checked/verified in real time.

The lack of detail, in fact, is stunning. Your posts simply don't contain any descriptions that are verifiable.

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And just how would you suggest that I or any other advantage player whether mickeycrimm, Axelwolf, any other APs on this forum, or any other forum, or even your boy Munchkin, go about posting “details’ of their play that can be checked or verified?

You seem to be name dropping Munchkin this week, so did you ask him when you had lunch, just what “details” of his play he has EVER posted that could be verified?

Any form of doing what you are suggesting would be giving up the anonymity that APs work hard to preserve and would have consequence akin to walking into a casino with “advantage player” tattooed on our forehead.

What is stunning to me, and I would bet every other advantage player that posts on this forum is your complete lack of understanding what it means to be an advantage player and the relationship between APs and casinos.

For a guy who claims to have spent 100 days a year in Vegas for 45 years, that lack of understanding is what is stunning.

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What's stunning is your persistent dishonesty.

Nobody said you should "go about posting 'details' of their play." Not even close.

What I said was that it's stunning that you never mention details of, oh let's see, where and what you eat, what shows you see, what LV-oriented things you do (with details). what other "APs" you hang with recreationally, what you and they do, what effects this or that have on you (like construction that ties up half the city), what odd LV locals you run into, how week-to-week changes in traffic and tourism and events affect you, and on and on.

The devil, as they say, is in the details. And there are very, very few details.

Even your silly attempts to label these comments of mine as asking you to "reveal details of your play" are stupid, manipulative, and obvious "misdirections," to use one of your fave phrases. You offer no "real life" details.

Any forensics interviewer would say the same things. It's just too obvious, after all these thousands of your posts.

And don't name drop Munchkin. He's more forthcoming in one lunch than you are in 5,000 posts. Now I hadn't mentioned that, but it is absolutely true.

You're just hanging yourself with your braindead posts that (1) try to frame me as saying things I did not and (2) persistently lack real-world details.

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Once again you’ve shown you have no reading comprehension when it comes to AP. And how was Munch forthcoming to us when it was a private conversation, if it really occurred, between you and him.

When will Munchkin’s podcast with you air?

I gave an open invite. You do realize they have done just a couple of shows the last year or so? I think an interview with me is something you would do right before the college football season, but maybe not.

I actually think they have more interest in a certain significant other, but she's a little more private than me.

You know how it works -- the connected hang with the connected, so to speak. Ahem, of course I'm speaking about the movie business.

We did exchange a couple of Castaways stories, which was cool. I didn't know anyone else remembered the place.

https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...castaways.html

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Castaways was huge in the sports betting world in its time. Like Little Caesars that we talked about before and Barbary Coast.

And finally, mickey, with all due respect, how does a guy traipsing around BumFuk, Montana and Kansas and such know anything about what every day details would or would not get you in "AP" trouble in LV? Reporting where you occasionally eat or describing environmental details about traffic and Christmas decorations would get you in the Black Book, as opposed to sitting at tables for 20 years?

Wake up and smell the Bumfuk, Montana coffee, mickey.

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What I said was that it's stunning that you never mention details of, oh let's see, where and what you eat, what shows you see, what LV-oriented things you do (with details). what other "APs" you hang with recreationally, what you and they do, what effects this or that have on you (like construction that ties up half the city), what odd LV locals you run into, how week-to-week changes in traffic and tourism and events affect you, and on and on.

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Are you freaking out of your mind? I have at times talked about ALL those things. AND MORE. I have named the gay club I used to attend somewhat regularly. Rob Knows because he also has mentioned it. :rolleyes: I have talked about running into Shackleford several times. I have bitched about traffic, especially during the months leading up to F1 each year. But at the end of the day there is always construction and traffic in Vegas. And I am neither here to be a traffic reporter, nor a tourist guide.

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And finally, mickey, with all due respect, how does a guy traipsing around BumFuk, Montana and Kansas and such know anything about what every day details would or would not get you in "AP" trouble in LV? Reporting where you occasionally eat or describing environmental details about traffic and Christmas decorations would get you in the Black Book, as opposed to sitting at tables for 20 years?

Wake up and smell the Bumfuk, Montana coffee, mickey.

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This from a maroon living in a shack in Johnson Shitty, Tenneshitty. I was in Nevada for ten years. Then I expanded to the rest of the country. I'm bad. I'm nationwide.

You are not qualified to even use the term, AP. It's been right in your face for 40 years and you still don't know jackshit about it. You just don't have a clue. You are to dense to learn it. No amount of your trolling is going to change that for you. You're a fucking dumass ploppie.

I don't know what happened to Red, that he has become so anti-AP. He used to at least understand advantage play and how it works. Now he thinks he is at war with APs because some of us are doing some sports betting. How dare we!!

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It's not just that UNKewlJ is a moron with no ability to connect the dots in analyzing anything (although, he is that too, a moron), and someone with all the personality of a wooden rocking chair (he's that as well, vapid and listless), but also that he can't expound on what he has not experienced personally. Which is why his posts tend to ramble on endlessly as he keeps throwing everything he has read or heard about the subject into the mix, repeating too his well worn blackjack story almost every time ("I've been playing ___ years and I've made ____ dollars and this is how much I SHOULD have made based on the math") desperately hoping to appear like some kind of authority (in this respect he isn't much different from Tasha with her "so and so did such and such" where she's writing about something she read or heard about).

(With UNKewl posts you may almost hear the rising soft whine of "I know what I'm talking about whyy won't you people pay attention to mee" in the background. But still - almost no relating of personal experience, tons of regurgitated "this is the way it should be.")

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It costs money.

Rob probably said or did something very ignorant and found himself on the no fly list.

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Two-Minute Drill !!

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I've never seen this game but it has the vibe of a certain game. I believe safecracker. Has a big tall screen and a random bonus mode. Lol

But ya can't do the math to determine odds climate change is not random natural occurance.

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I don't know what happened to Red, that he has become so anti-AP. He used to at least understand advantage play and how it works. Now he thinks he is at war with APs because some of us are doing some sports betting. How dare we!!

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Redietz has been emasculated by his partner whoever she is. He can't measure up to her to he's stuck in some comical loop trying to prove himself.

I cracked that one!

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This is probably somewhat over the heads of most of the little people here--and it'll irritate the shit out of them--but I stopped flying in 2000 after having had to do it for my working career for 25 years....and over 3 million miles on 3 major airlines plus maybe millions more on others. I don't want or need all the nonsense that comes with air travel these days, and sitting back and laughing at all the delays, moronic passenger actions, and how poorly kept up our airport infrastructure and ATC system is, etc., is very relaxing indeed.

To the idiot who mentioned "cost too much" or whatever: I'll bet right now that I spend more on gasoline each year than you earn in the same timeframe.

Sensible explanation...unless you have to get somewhere far away quickly.

Easy does it.

John Madden had the right idea.

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I've never seen this game but it has the vibe of a certain game. I believe safecracker. Has a big tall screen and a random bonus mode. Lol

But ya can't do the math to determine odds climate change is not random natural occurance.

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1) I only care about probability as it pertains to gambling.

2) I don’t work for anyone. That includes you. If you want it done then….do it yourself.

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I've never seen this game but it has the vibe of a certain game. I believe safecracker. Has a big tall screen and a random bonus mode. Lol

But ya can't do the math to determine odds climate change is not random natural occurance.

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1) I only care about probability as it pertains to gambling.

2) I don’t work for anyone. That includes you. If you want it done then….do it yourself.

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Probability pertains to all manner of life. Maybe figuring out whether you need insurance. So much in life is risk and risk assessment.

I had to think wtf are you referencing in "working for someone".

Oh, I can do the math. Probably a lot better than you. You bugged Redietz for some silly probability question you knew he couldn't answer. Not with the academic type way or the short-cut street-smart gambler way. I'm doing the same for you. You're a coward in this situation just like Redietz. You can wrap it up in all your tough guy talk about 'i dunt wory for anyone' nonsense. whatever.

You made a comical assertion that it is all random and that the climate is always changing. You find the subject worth arguing on so I figured you'd find it worth beginning to have a clue about the words your fingers type.

Of course not though - you still love Trump as much as ever. I'm fairly certain after seeing you on these forums for years, you're not the type to have any level of introspection.

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I've never seen this game but it has the vibe of a certain game. I believe safecracker. Has a big tall screen and a random bonus mode. Lol

But ya can't do the math to determine odds climate change is not random natural occurance.

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1) I only care about probability as it pertains to gambling.

2) I don’t work for anyone. That includes you. If you want it done then….do it yourself.

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Probability pertains to all manner of life. Maybe figuring out whether you need insurance. So much in life is risk and risk assessment.

I had to think wtf are you referencing in "working for someone".

Oh, I can do the math. Probably a lot better than you. You bugged Redietz for some silly probability question you knew he couldn't answer. Not with the academic type way or the short-cut street-smart gambler way. I'm doing the same for you. You're a coward in this situation just like Redietz. You can wrap it up in all your tough guy talk about 'i dunt wory for anyone' nonsense. whatever.

You made a comical assertion that it is all random and that the climate is always changing. You find the subject worth arguing on so I figured you'd find it worth beginning to have a clue about the words your fingers type.

Of course not though - you still love Trump as much as ever. I'm fairly certain after seeing you on these forums for years, you're not the type to have any level of introspection.

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Your glaring projection of yourself is astronomically funny, dimwit. You interjected yourself into an argument and tried to change the subject. Fuck you, poltroon.

I don’t work for you means I don’t take orders from you. Don’t try to get someone else to do it for you. If you want the math done then do it your fucking ignorant self. That is, if you aren’t stupider than redietz on probability.

I designed the probability problem to be as simple as it gets to show redietz lack of knowledge on the subject because he kept bragging up how much he knew about gambling math (probability).

Keep it up and you’ll be back on ignore. All you do is troll here anyway.

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1) I only care about probability as it pertains to gambling.

2) I don’t work for anyone. That includes you. If you want it done then….do it yourself.

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Probability pertains to all manner of life. Maybe figuring out whether you need insurance. So much in life is risk and risk assessment.

I had to think wtf are you referencing in "working for someone".

Oh, I can do the math. Probably a lot better than you. You bugged Redietz for some silly probability question you knew he couldn't answer. Not with the academic type way or the short-cut street-smart gambler way. I'm doing the same for you. You're a coward in this situation just like Redietz. You can wrap it up in all your tough guy talk about 'i dunt wory for anyone' nonsense. whatever.

You made a comical assertion that it is all random and that the climate is always changing. You find the subject worth arguing on so I figured you'd find it worth beginning to have a clue about the words your fingers type.

Of course not though - you still love Trump as much as ever. I'm fairly certain after seeing you on these forums for years, you're not the type to have any level of introspection.

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Your glaring projection of yourself is astronomically funny, dimwit. You interjected yourself into an argument and tried to change the subject. Fuck you, poltroon.

I don’t work for you means I don’t take orders from you. Don’t try to get someone else to do it for you. If you want the math done then do it your fucking ignorant self. That is, if you aren’t stupider than redietz on probability.

I designed the probability problem to be as simple as it gets to show redietz lack of knowledge on the subject because he kept bragging up how much he knew about gambling math (probability).

Keep it up and you’ll be back on ignore. All you do is troll here anyway.

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lol. You crying about other trolls. I can tell when I'm cutting to the bone.

Projection? Yea? When and whom am I shying away from? What subject? What am I projecting onto you?

I just added it as an after-thought. The fact is you gave Redietz some simple problem and I gave you a fairly simple problem too. You're so gung-ho on climate change being mostly random (LMAO). Which is astronomically crazy simply because of how analogous the math is to slot machine math. You understand short-term variance yet there you are. Insisting on having an opinion but unwilling to do basic math.

Your use of poltroon doesn't even make sense. I'll be honest I had to look that one up and my vocab is quite solid. Archaic for coward? How am I being a coward? I'll admit when I met you that time I was a bit nervous. After all you had threatened to shoot me prior but I've been shot at before so whatevers. I did introduce myself. So how am I being a coward?

You're the poltroon here not willing to do the basic math. You made the claim that goes against 1000s of world-class scientists.

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Really?

Care to expound on that subject?

Yea until proven otherwise, I’ll take Mick’s thoughts when it comes to AP slots. And the guy only shares publicly a few tidbits of what he knows. The semi funny thing is Accounting know this. No clue why anyone would argue or fight with the guy because he doesn’t give a fuck and will make you look like an ass in the end.

Those who know, know those who know.

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Yea until proven otherwise, I’ll take Mick’s thoughts when it comes to AP slots. And the guy only shares publicly a few tidbits of what he knows. The semi funny thing is Accounting know this. No clue why anyone would argue or fight with the guy because he doesn’t give a fuck and will make you look like an ass in the end.

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You should reread this thread. You're not following. I'm not looking to beef with Mickey nor do I think he will make most people look like an ass.

We were talking about trying to come up with an estimate of the climate change were seeing being random. We can look at similar heating periods and figure out how often such things exist. Then from there ... blah blah. It bores me explaining it but Micky loves living in his own little world of bullshit.

edit - I'm quite over slots. Some of the walk around grinders I know seem to have moved on. There will always be places for big MHBs and longer players but the days of finding decent plays in a casino are kinda over for me. It was fun when I took it up. There wasn't enough info but .. knowledge of such things grows exponentially. Tons of people have figured out and have an idea of what to look for. I'm more about making sure I can get invited back to these big local poker games. Working on my people skills. Crackin' jokes. Given the 2 times I've been in that game - it is readily better. I just have to never talk about being a pro or things like that. Even if the host knows - it is bad for their game to have me there if thats my perception. I can't imagine walking around casino floors looking fro plays. I never did it that seriously but I don't even have much fun. Too many gamblign addicts know enough to keep everything trimmed down. Given all this I have no desire to argue about any aspects of them. My days of figuring out when RR is positive are over. lol

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Probability pertains to all manner of life. Maybe figuring out whether you need insurance. So much in life is risk and risk assessment.

I had to think wtf are you referencing in "working for someone".

Oh, I can do the math. Probably a lot better than you. You bugged Redietz for some silly probability question you knew he couldn't answer. Not with the academic type way or the short-cut street-smart gambler way. I'm doing the same for you. You're a coward in this situation just like Redietz. You can wrap it up in all your tough guy talk about 'i dunt wory for anyone' nonsense. whatever.

You made a comical assertion that it is all random and that the climate is always changing. You find the subject worth arguing on so I figured you'd find it worth beginning to have a clue about the words your fingers type.

Of course not though - you still love Trump as much as ever. I'm fairly certain after seeing you on these forums for years, you're not the type to have any level of introspection.

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Your glaring projection of yourself is astronomically funny, dimwit. You interjected yourself into an argument and tried to change the subject. Fuck you, poltroon.

I don’t work for you means I don’t take orders from you. Don’t try to get someone else to do it for you. If you want the math done then do it your fucking ignorant self. That is, if you aren’t stupider than redietz on probability.

I designed the probability problem to be as simple as it gets to show redietz lack of knowledge on the subject because he kept bragging up how much he knew about gambling math (probability).

Keep it up and you’ll be back on ignore. All you do is troll here anyway.

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lol. You crying about other trolls. I can tell when I'm cutting to the bone.

Projection? Yea? When and whom am I shying away from? What subject? What am I projecting onto you?

I just added it as an after-thought. The fact is you gave Redietz some simple problem and I gave you a fairly simple problem too. You're so gung-ho on climate change being mostly random (LMAO). Which is astronomically crazy simply because of how analogous the math is to slot machine math. You understand short-term variance yet there you are. Insisting on having an opinion but unwilling to do basic math.

Your use of poltroon doesn't even make sense. I'll be honest I had to look that one up and my vocab is quite solid. Archaic for coward? How am I being a coward? I'll admit when I met you that time I was a bit nervous. After all you had threatened to shoot me prior but I've been shot at before so whatevers. I did introduce myself. So how am I being a coward?

You're the poltroon here not willing to do the basic math. You made the claim that goes against 1000s of world-class scientists.

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Enough of your insufferable bullshit. Instaban. You’re on ignore.

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Your glaring projection of yourself is astronomically funny, dimwit. You interjected yourself into an argument and tried to change the subject. Fuck you, poltroon.

I don’t work for you means I don’t take orders from you. Don’t try to get someone else to do it for you. If you want the math done then do it your fucking ignorant self. That is, if you aren’t stupider than redietz on probability.

I designed the probability problem to be as simple as it gets to show redietz lack of knowledge on the subject because he kept bragging up how much he knew about gambling math (probability).

Keep it up and you’ll be back on ignore. All you do is troll here anyway.

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lol. You crying about other trolls. I can tell when I'm cutting to the bone.

Projection? Yea? When and whom am I shying away from? What subject? What am I projecting onto you?

I just added it as an after-thought. The fact is you gave Redietz some simple problem and I gave you a fairly simple problem too. You're so gung-ho on climate change being mostly random (LMAO). Which is astronomically crazy simply because of how analogous the math is to slot machine math. You understand short-term variance yet there you are. Insisting on having an opinion but unwilling to do basic math.

Your use of poltroon doesn't even make sense. I'll be honest I had to look that one up and my vocab is quite solid. Archaic for coward? How am I being a coward? I'll admit when I met you that time I was a bit nervous. After all you had threatened to shoot me prior but I've been shot at before so whatevers. I did introduce myself. So how am I being a coward?

You're the poltroon here not willing to do the basic math. You made the claim that goes against 1000s of world-class scientists.

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Enough of your insufferable bullshit. Instaban. You’re on ignore.

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Mick's lost it. Like I give a fuck if he has ignored me. I barely even trolled him. No more than he trolls Redietz.

Maybe he can get Trump to troll me for him? Channel his energy, Mick.

"instaban" he says. Anyway.. good stuff. I've been instabanned!

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Nice to see an actual trip report. But damn you get so defensive quickly. I don’t see Mick as antagonizing you at all. He was showing you what is a semi obvious AP opportunity as the multipliers build. The trick is knowing the right number to play.

Shocked you actually pay for insurance on a rental car, most major travel cards cover it. It’s one of the biggest scams out there but you still got a good deal.

Wish I was there to catch up, one of these days.

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Mickey was less-than-neutral with his post. I was aware the NFL slot was exploitable, thanks to mickey's previous posts, but I was just mix-and-matching to set my profile a little. I wasn't going to play a slot machine for any length of time with a 96-hour feet-on-the-ground time frame.

The rental car -- my cards don't cover the insurance free any longer -- it broke my heart when Discover stopped doing it -- so I use the el cheapo Priceline option. The trick to Priceline is that you sign up with an options selection (Alamo, Dollar, and so on -- I don't use the discounters), and then they try to stick you with an electric car. I then say something like, "Great, well, I'm looking forward to the tutorial; hope I don't wreck it" when you get to the desk, and then the booth guy, who will be responsible for you learning how to use the thing, says, "Ummm, wait, I think we have a nice gasoline RV right here," and off you go. I wanted to ask you about the credit card option for rental car insurance -- my cards are not top-of-the-line; they are pretty ordinary with maybe 15K limits except for Discover, which had been my go-to card. But Discover dropped the insurance coverage. So what would you recommend? I'm probably going to qualify for almost any card right now, so I will follow your advice. I appreciate it. Yeah, I used cards for insurance coverage up until the pandemic started, then the peon cards dropped it for the most part, and Discover quit.

Note: Boz's advice here will be worth it's weight in gold, so pay attention.

Two further comments: If you get out to South Point, they have decorated all of the trees surrounding the casino parking areas, so it's really quite old-school lovely. And I realized, after reading what I wrote as a summary, you know what's curious about the thousands of kewlJs posts? No details. None. Not about eating, driving, decorations, music, what they do for entertainment, absolutely none. I bet a police interviewer would have a forensics blast with analyzing the kewlJs' posts.

And yes, MDawg, please quote me, and put another coffee on my tab.

Also, just for the record, the airport Starbucks is cheaper than the $6.50 a cup GN Starbucks. Forensics details -- the key to credibility.

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Cool story. Credibility isn't something that's self applied though dude, any first year journalism student knows that.

Speaking of credibility, you recommended pinkbox aka always day old shitbox donuts.

Disagree on PinkBox. Better than Dunkin'. Better than anything else downtown. And if you are eating them at 7 AM, as I generally am, not that old. And the coffee is better than Dunkin' or Starbucks, at least for me. I think I had Circa donuts once -- not bad but not knocking my socks off. I've actually had pretty much all of the downtown pastries, I think. I may be worse than monet for the downtown pastry tour.

And pardone moi if I don't really think "AP" expertise extends to donut sampling.

Best donuts I ever had was a place called the donut bar at 6th and Carson a block from El Cortez. There would be a line out the door in early mornings and they sold out about noon. Sadly the closed up last year.

This game piqued my interest as we walked the floor of SP. I inserted two 20's to hit it. My question is "can Rising Rockets Empress be considered playable by AP's"?

I saw it again at Grand Casino Mille Lacs.

Silly me, but I actually believe you on this one.

Nice win.

Luck happens.

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No - this is known as a fake persistent-state game. The green, pinkish, and blue features above the reels go off randomly and have no correlation with how many wicks are lit.

Nice hit - congratulations.

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This game piqued my interest as we walked the floor of SP. I inserted two 20's to hit it. My question is "can Rising Rockets Empress be considered playable by AP's"?

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Games like this one are traps for rec players and not to astute AP’s alike. This is the trend on the casino floor these days. The fake persistence games are all over the casino floor now. In the case of Rising Rockets, lights keep lighting up on the rockets as you spin until they are so bright you can’t ignore it. The growth of the lights is designed to deceive the player into thinking the machine is ripe to hit a bonus round. It’s meant to keep the player spinning because she thinks the machine is close to hitting.

But the odds of getting the bonus are the same on every spin. I was surprised that gaming allowed it. If you go into the rules screens you will usually find some small print buried somewhere that tells you it’s fake.

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KJ is strange, pathetic, and downright boring. Mdawg has definitely taken up residency in KJs head. He was up all night writing about Mdawg and at it again this morning. Man crush?

It's the same old boring crap. Dog barking at a glass of water. He really shouldn't try to be a forum bounty hunter. Dying ain't much of a living.

One would think KJ would be more worried about his Las Vegas haters closing him on him and a prostitution career that is toast.

Big Ole El Cortez guy holding KJ by his feet over his patio to eject him for sugar daddy ploys. Much more interesting.

KJ's roommates in the tunnels must avoid him like the plague.

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Best donuts I ever had was a place called the donut bar at 6th and Carson a block from El Cortez. There would be a line out the door in early mornings and they sold out about noon. Sadly the closed up last year.

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Sold to Carl's Donuts, which is open there now. Have only had coffee there, so can't speak to the donuts. Gotta be better than pinkbox though.

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This game piqued my interest as we walked the floor of SP. I inserted two 20's to hit it. My question is "can Rising Rockets Empress be considered playable by AP's"?

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Games like this one are traps for rec players and not to astute AP’s alike. This is the trend on the casino floor these days. The fake persistence games are all over the casino floor now. In the case of Rising Rockets, lights keep lighting up on the rockets as you spin until they are so bright you can’t ignore it. The growth of the lights is designed to deceive the player into thinking the machine is ripe to hit a bonus round. It’s meant to keep the player spinning because she thinks the machine is close to hitting.

But the odds of getting the bonus are the same on every spin. I was surprised that gaming allowed it. If you go into the rules screens you will usually find some small print buried somewhere that tells you it’s fake.

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Ok, we know that it doesn't represent exactly how close it is to hitting. Now let's take a deeper dive. Do the lights represent anything value-wise at all? Is it storing up bonus money somehow? Will your bonus round be better with fully lit-up Rockets?

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This game piqued my interest as we walked the floor of SP. I inserted two 20's to hit it. My question is "can Rising Rockets Empress be considered playable by AP's"?

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Games like this one are traps for rec players and not to astute AP’s alike. This is the trend on the casino floor these days. The fake persistence games are all over the casino floor now. In the case of Rising Rockets, lights keep lighting up on the rockets as you spin until they are so bright you can’t ignore it. The growth of the lights is designed to deceive the player into thinking the machine is ripe to hit a bonus round. It’s meant to keep the player spinning because she thinks the machine is close to hitting.

But the odds of getting the bonus are the same on every spin. I was surprised that gaming allowed it. If you go into the rules screens you will usually find some small print buried somewhere that tells you it’s fake.

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Ok, we know that it doesn't represent exactly how close it is to hitting. Now let's take a deeper dive. Do the lights represent anything value-wise at all? Is it storing up bonus money somehow? Will your bonus round be better with fully lit-up Rockets?

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No. But a game like Fu Dai Lian Lian, both Peacock and Tiger, have bags of coins that grow as you are playing. There are 5 levels to each bag. The odds of triggering a bag do not change as the bags grow. But triggering a bag when it's on the 5th level pays much better than if the bag is triggered when it's on levels 1 thru 4. This game can be exploited by playing only when the bags are high.

There are two more Fu Dai Lian Lian games, Panda and Dragon, that can't be played at advantage because triggering a bag pays the same no matter what level it's on.

The difference between Peacock/Tiger and Panda/Dragon is you can punch thru the bet levels on Peacock/Tiger and each bet level has it's own set of bags. It's what you have to do to find the advantage plays.

But on Panda/Dragon the bags are all the same size on every bet level. So you can build the bags betting low then max bet when the bags are high. Which is exactly what the designer of the game wishes you will do. Because there is no edge there.
They are fake persistence games.

A quick way to determine if a game may be exploitable is determining if each bet level has it's own independent set of bags. If that's the case you will see varying sizes of the bags as you punch thru the bet levels.

In this video all 3 bags are on the highest level, the jewelled level. The bags pay more when they are jewelled.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6_Mx49ZYkMQ

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Best donuts I ever had was a place called the donut bar at 6th and Carson a block from El Cortez. There would be a line out the door in early mornings and they sold out about noon. Sadly the closed up last year.

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Sold to Carl's Donuts, which is open there now. Have only had coffee there, so can't speak to the donuts. Gotta be better than pinkbox though.

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I am assuming the same Carl's Donuts that has a location on Sunset, across the street from Wayne Newton's former place. ahhh...they are/were nothing special. Definitely a step down from the Donut Bar. Donut Bar has oreo cookie donuts and birthday cake batter donuts. OMG!!! Just as well they are gone. Trying to eat less of that stuff. :rolleyes:

It was a pit boss at El Cortez that told me about the Donut Bar.

I did see Fat Sal's sandwich shop on Fremont, across from Walgreens Today that I hadn't seen or noticed before. I don't get down to Fremont as often as I used to. Haven't looked at the menu, but first thought was do we really need a Fat Sal's in the same block as Heart attack Grill? :D

Was the pit boss named angel and was that right before he flipped the rigged switch and winked?

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Was the pit boss named angel and was that right before he flipped the rigged switch and winked?

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No smart ass. Angel was at Eastside Cannery. The pit guy at El Cortez, I can't remember his name, but we got along well. He was from Jersey and we talked sports. He looked like an old mobster, but was really a sweetheart of a guy. The first day I played after my second heart surgery, he welcomed me back and said something like, "let's just take it slow today". He was letting me know that he knew who I was, but still allowed me to play and was friendly. Co-existing type deal. Even when he backed me off which he did a number of times, it was the politest back off I ever received. He would say something like "I think that is enough for today". And sure enough next time I played, no issue. He sort of disappeared during the covid year. I hope he retired (he was about that age) rather than something happened to him.

And THAT is exactly how I have achieved such longevity in this town. You can co-exist, as long as you don't rock the boat too much and create problems that some of these guys have to answer for. It is all about finding and identifying what is and isn't tolerated. comfort levels. My brother plays slightly lower max bet than I used to when I played the local's circuit and he has had I think 2 backoffs in 9 years now.

And that is why I get a little annoyed at some clown claiming he wins all the time, playing these high limits, winning 10's of thousands of dollars each session, and playing for hours on end (with a huge spread). THAT is bullshit. Fantasy stuff. No casino, nor pit people would put up with that. If they did, they would be collecting unemployment.

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Was the pit boss named angel and was that right before he flipped the rigged switch and winked?

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For someone who appears to be a decent person in life you come across as a total asshole.

Pissing Mick and KJ off takes a special kind of asshole.

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Was the pit boss named angel and was that right before he flipped the rigged switch and winked?

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For someone who appears to be a decent person in life you come across as a total asshole.

Pissing Mick and KJ off takes a special kind of asshole.

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Lol. They have both brought it upon themselves. Mickey has went out of his way to mock climate change. So I asked him to do a simple bit of research to estimate the odds his view are correct.

Kj is a pathological liar. Go ahead and feel sorry for him all you want but we've been through the why's many times. I didn't ask kj to tell me elaborate lies in DMs. That was his doing.

So sensitive.

Says the guy who constantly picks on the black woman with a host of mental issues....... good stuff.

Easier to punch down for most.

Merry Christmas

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Was the pit boss named angel and was that right before he flipped the rigged switch and winked?

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For someone who appears to be a decent person in life you come across as a total asshole.

Pissing Mick and KJ off takes a special kind of asshole.

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Lol. They have both brought it upon themselves. Mickey has went out of his way to mock climate change. So I asked him to do a simple bit of research to estimate the odds his view are correct.

Kj is a pathological liar. Go ahead and feel sorry for him all you want but we've been through the why's many times. I didn't ask kj to tell me elaborate lies in DMs. That was his doing.

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Refresh my memory as to why I PMed you. I know I didn't do so out of the blue. You either contacted me first, or I think you may have made some statement about the ASM situation that I wanted to correct or clarify, but didn't want to do so publicly for reasons that should be obvious. So I PMed you and shared my experiences with the ASM.

You chose not to believe it. That is your right. I don't give a fuck what you believe. Believe in the Easter Bunny for all I care. But of the two of us, one of us went to the trouble and expense to get our hands on the model ASM, got it into our home, and had someone more technical than myself show me what it was capable of. The other one of us has a theory based on nothing.

As for mickey and climate change, not my fight or issue, but REALLY!!!!?? You are going to war with someone that has a different opinion than you on something like climate change? You're a nut dude. Something very wrong with you.

These two very different thing show that if someone has a different opinion than you on something, you go nuts and start attacking them. THAT is the pinnacle of arrogance. I am not surprised you appear to be alone in life.

But I hope you have a nice Christmas anyway.

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For someone who appears to be a decent person in life you come across as a total asshole.

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Lol. They have both brought it upon themselves. Mickey has went out of his way to mock climate change. So I asked him to do a simple bit of research to estimate the odds his view are correct.

Kj is a pathological liar. Go ahead and feel sorry for him all you want but we've been through the why's many times. I didn't ask kj to tell me elaborate lies in DMs. That was his doing.

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You are a crazy person dude. Many on here are trolling and playing games, but you are freaking nuts.

Refresh my memory as to why I PMed you. I know I didn't do so out of the blue. You either contacted me first, or I think you may have made some statement about the ASM situation that I wanted to correct or clarify, but didn't want to do so publicly for reasons that should be obvious. So I PMed you and shared my experiences with the ASM.

You chose not to believe it. That is your right. I don't give a fuck what you believe. Believe in the Easter Bunny for all I care. But of the two of us, one of us went to the trouble and expense to get our hands on the model ASM, got it into our home, and had someone more technical than myself show me what it was capable of. The other one of us has a theory based on nothing.

As for mickey and climate change, not my fight or issue, but REALLY!!!!?? You are going to war with someone that has a different opinion than you on something like climate change? You're a nut dude. Something very wrong with you.

These two very different thing show that if someone has a different opinion than you on something, you go nuts and start attacking them. THAT is the pinnacle of arrogance. I am not surprised you appear to be alone in life.

But I hope you have a nice Christmas anyway.

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You did DM me and did this whole "Then I was DMed on this other forum and people weren't happy and they threatened me". Something like that. But yea, you told the whole story of the rigged shuffler which you expounded later on to the point it was 100% clear at least a large portion of it was nonsense. It is possible some smaller aspects of it were true but once you started to expound on your lie later it became quite clear.

"I hired a hacker and he found this backdoor in 15 minutes". Which is true - means that a billion dollar company would have serious issues as faith in their gaming devices would fall off a cliff. Not to mention the number of low level people who would need to be in on the conspiracy. It is just rubbish.

You can't even produce a picture of a surfboard in your apartment. when you tried to lie about that you went to google and found some nonsense about oiling surfboards which apparently isn't even a thing. There are close to like 40 documented lies coming from you.

"Going to war with Mickey" ? Wtf are you talking about. He tried to call out Redietz by asking him to do a simple probability problem. He did this under the assumption Redietz couldn't ansswer the question. So I asked him my question again. "Going to war"? You're such a utter clown.

I'd much rather be alone in life to the extent I am than have some old dried up sugar daddy I gotta coax a boner away once a week to not get kicked out on the streets.

Sorry I am too effective as a troll. Even Ozzy who I knew for many years and spotted me said I was a polished troll. ;) RIP Ozzy but that was the most of a complement I'd ever get out of that guy.

It isn't my fault you guys want to play this game and appear to be piss-poor at it. Mickey going to call me a some weird homo stuff? Honestly i don't even want to bring him up because I have no real issue with him these days. I've accepted people who love Trump will love him long time. It was a small part of 1 thread where I did the same thing to him that he did to Redietz. Actually, what he did to Redietz is worse because it was to mock Redietz's intelligence. I asked him to do a math problem to confront his own views which he seemed to be very proud of. Of course this makes him uncomfortable so he has to throw up some face saving tactics. The whole episode would be done with and he'd forget he said he "blocked me" but boz felt the need to stick up for you 2. And that is crazy in its own right given the effort he puts into insulting Tasha.

I'm not going to shit on you and then say Merry Christmas because it is such a phoney ass thing to do. In your world it wouldn't even register on the radar.

and Kewl - Get help.

Apparently you don't know the meaning of the word 'documented'. Because Mdawg made a list of things he claims are lies, does not make them so. There is NO documentation of a single thing on that list. Look at some of the things on that list. That I am Asian. That I am a prostitute. The surfboard is another one. How is it documented that I didn't surf as a teenage when I 100% did. I spent all my time surfing.

The surfboard is cracked and unusable. It was in my brother's room as I guess it had some sentimental value to him, but we put it downstairs in the storage bin, last February when we rented out the condo. My brother finally said we can get rid of it, I just haven't gotten around to it. But I wouldn't post a picture of that or any other thing you trolls demand. That YOU are obsessed with this kind of shit proves what a troll you are.

You demand all kinds of shit from me....what have you ever proven on this forum? :confused:

Internet forums are not courtrooms. No one is on trial and people don't need to prove shit. Nor have I ever asked anyone else to prove anything. You, I and everyone else are free to believe whatever we want. If you think I don't know what I am talking about when it comes to blackjack, Las Vegas and the limited AP plays that I do, then you are an idiot. But again, you are quite free to be an idiot. So have at it.

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Apparently you don't know the meaning of the word 'documented'. Because Mdawg made a list of things he claims are lies, does not make them so. Look at some of the things on that list. That I am Asian. That I am a prostitute. The surfboard is another one. How is it documented that I didn't surf as a teenage when I 100% did. spent all my time surfing.

The surfboard is cracked and unusable. It was in my brother's room as I guess it had some sentimental value to him, but we put it downstairs in the storage bin, last February when we rented out the condo. My brother finally said we can get rid of it, I just haven't gotten around to it. But I wouldn't post a picture of that or any other thing you trolls demand. That YOU are obsessed with this kind of shit proves what a troll you are.

You demand all kinds of shit from me....what have you ever proven on this forum? :confused:

Internet forums are not courtrooms. No one is on trial and people don't need to prove shit. Nor have I ever asked anyone else to prove anything. You, I and everyone else are free to believe whatever we want. If you think I don't know what I am talking about when it comes to blackjack, Las Vegas and the limited AP plays that I do, then you are an idiot. But again, you are quite free to be an idiot. So have at it.

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I'm not obsessed with the surfboard. It is just a thing that you could have EASILY snapped a pic of to show your legitimacy that has absolutely 0 chance of outing your gambling life. That is the excuse you typically use as you lecture the person about what it means to be an AP. You're so into that identity. So when we start with the aburdity of your online persona, I lead with the surfboard. It is simple and to the point. That doesn't mean I'm obsessed. It just shows how deep your nonsense goes. That all grew out of some lie where you tried to claim you were off surfing. (You know, being kewl J)

It is crazy how you make the same fucking argument 12 times. I "demand" as in ask for you to give a bit of credibility. I've proven I'm a real person to multiple people and a known gambler. I showed a picture of 100k in a bag. Outside of that I've proven nothing either but being a real person counts for a lot.

We all know Redietz is real. We all know he is and was a gambler. We all know he knows a ton about football. We all have a vague idea of at least part of his gambling history. He's proven many of these things in my book.

KewlJ ?

We don't know he is real. We don't know he gambles much. We do know he knows a ton about blackjack. I'm not telling people to ignore your blackjack posts. I am telling people to be careful because you're totally full of shit when it comes to your general being.

Rob Singer?

Real person.

Mdawg?

Real person.

You just don't get that simple badge of "real person". Some troll on another forum re-trolls everyone claiming he met you lol. Gosh you must have loved that.

This "I don't have to prove anything" shit. Well of course you don't but we clearly don't need to believe a thing you say.
The sharper ones around don't.

Anyway, lets have a Merry Christmas and just go off and go count the graveyard shift at the Eastside Canary or wherever and do your thing buddy. (Never been there.. but if they closed it down - go somewhere else) I'm so over dissecting you. It is like so many things in life. I got some fight in me but the older we get hte more we value our time. It just isn't much fun.

I am not a real person? What does that mean? I am a bot?

Singer, Mdawg, sure are real people. But there gambling claims are not real. Not a one of them. Redietz is a real person as well. I am not going to say his claims are not real. He has documented some contests, but I am starting to have doubts about everything he claims now based on his behavior. And by the way that is what documented is, not just someone saying something. And saying something hundreds of times as you and Mdawg do, does not make it "documented".

It all comes back to one thing. I am not here to prove anything to you or anyone else. I share some of my experiences as a blackjack card counting AP for 20 years. I think I have more than demonstrated that I know what the fuck I am talking about. If you don't, you can believe whatever you want. No skin of my nose. I am not selling anything.

But I am getting real tired of going in circles with you over the same stupid arguments. Just like I am getting tired on going over the same stupid shit with Redietz about advantage players and anonymity. It's just ridiculous.

Another fun fact about what I've proven. I was on the fence about mentioning this because it is douchey but I can't help myself.

Boz wasn't following what I was trying to convey and started off lecturing me about arguing with Mickey.

Mickey then posts a nice post explaining the bags game.

Know who showed Mickey that game originally? Me.

So ... I feel pathetic here on Christmas morning avoiding work and find it worth my time to still be arguing with Kewl but I had to do it. Kewl, you have nothing like that. Absolutely nothing. You'd be better off avoiding these arguments.

Merry Christmas and I'm in no way suggesting I know near as much about slots as Mickey. I just happened to meet him when he hadn't been around the country much. I still respect a lot about Mickey. I respect the guy's lifestyle in its weird fucked up way. Just going around on his scooter playing slots and getting by. Eating what he wants. Sure he isn't living in an expensive place but it does it all via gambling. It is weirdly impressive to me.

So when Kewl says "What have you proven?" .. heres a good example.

KJ, chill.

He's trolling you, and he has been for some time now.

Didn't you read where he wrote "Sorry I am too effective as a troll. Even Ozzy who I knew for many years and spotted me said I was a polished troll?"

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Know who showed Mickey that game originally? Me.

So ... I feel pathetic here on Christmas morning avoiding work and find it worth my time to still be arguing with Kewl but I had to do it. Kewl, you have nothing like that. Absolutely nothing. You'd be better off avoiding these arguments.

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I am NOT a slot player. Never claimed to be, nor claimed to be as smart as most AP's doing stuff like that. My lane is blackjack. And I think I have shared a lot of knowledge about blackjack and card counting. I mean there is nothing really new with blackjack and card counting. Occasionally some new variant or side bet you can attack, which I have, but I won't talk much about. So there is no new math to talk about with card counting. What there is....what card counting really is now, is finding ways to be able to keep playing, different techniques and twist, that allow you to keep being able to play. That is my expertise and that is what I have shared. It just so happens there are probably like 2 card counters on this forum.

And YES, MrV, I know he is trolling. That is all he is now. Unlike Dawg and Singer who were never anything but trolls seeking attention, AinQ started out being a normal decent poster. And some where along the line he went full blown troll on us. Maybe it is this forum that brings that out. :confused:

These people that think they are winning some kind of troll contest is just bizarre. Cry for attention, I guess.

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Know who showed Mickey that game originally? Me.

So ... I feel pathetic here on Christmas morning avoiding work and find it worth my time to still be arguing with Kewl but I had to do it. Kewl, you have nothing like that. Absolutely nothing. You'd be better off avoiding these arguments.

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I am NOT a slot player. Never claimed to be, nor claimed to be as smart as most AP's doing stuff like that. My lane is blackjack. And I think I have shared a lot of knowledge about blackjack and card counting. I mean there is nothing really new with blackjack and card counting. Occasionally some new variant or side bet you can attack, which I have, but I won't talk much about. So there is no new math to talk about with card counting. What there is....what card counting really is now, is finding ways to be able to keep playing, different techniques and twist, that allow you to keep being able to play. That is my expertise and that is what I have shared. It just so happens there are probably like 2 card counters on this forum.

And YES, MrV, I know he is trolling. That is all he is now. Unlike Dawg and Singer who were never anything but trolls seeking attention, AinQ started out being a normal decent poster. And some where along the line he went full blown troll on us. Maybe it is this forum that brings that out. :confused:

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I'm here for a lot of reasons. Mostly to be entertained. If there was no trolling then perhaps this forum would have interesting discussions about LV. I'm doubtful. Perhaps.

I don't troll near as much as people would like to think. Yes, lots of my 1 sentence posts are clearly trolls.

I actually feel a bit bad for what I said to Redietz but Redietz loves to start up insulting people out of nowhere. So .. he is another willing participant in this game.

Boz thinks I'm a meanie guy but just about all these guys have done something that is equivalent to signing a "I'm playing this game" acknowledgement.

That is - except Tasha. I mean I guess she does some weird shit to stir people up but she's never directing it at other people with some form of malice.