MDawg vs KJ

This will get you talking….

Rob, who I actually like, is in a no win situation here. He either supports an anti Trumper in the Turban Head or he supports an admitted homo.

Most of us here realize he picked the wrong horse because of his homophobia. Come on Rob, you know the sand guy who you originally called out is full of shit.

Or you could call both out, honestly I’m disappointed you would support one over the other.

Me, I’d bet everything I own KJ is far more honest compared to the “Dawg”, and you would too if we had to.

100% accurate

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Originally Posted by The Boz

Me, I’d bet everything I own KJ is far more honest compared to the “Dawg”, and you would too if we had to.

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Thank you Boz for this comment as well as one you made last week. For those that may not remember, Boz made his feeling about my sexual preference quite clear years ago with some pretty nasty comments about me. But he has come to realize, something I have always said....what does that have to do with anything on a gambling forum? And putting that, what should be a non-issue aside, he can see clearly without that bias, clouding every comment. I really commend you for that Boz.

I don't know if Rob can embarrass himself any more than he already has after the Newell and fake jackpot incidents, but his 'support' of this Turtle fella after being one of the first to call out his claims as bullshit, is not only really small of Rob, but shows just what an idiot he is. He should be ultra embarrassed, but of course he isn't.

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Do you know how it came to be that people on forums know or first knew I was gay? I didn't post it for no reason as people think. It was at the original blackjackinfo forum that I was on. I lived in Philly, but played blackjack in Atlantic city 5 days a week at the time. I attended the Gay pride festival in the neighborhood I lived in and Ceasar's Entertainment had a booth, giving away keychains and stuff. At that time Harrah's Atlantic City also had a gay themed brunch thing on Sundays at the swimming pool area.

So I made a comment about how the Evil Empire seemed to be catering to the gay community, which probably was a sound business decision as there is a lot of disposable income in the gay community. Upon making that rather innocent post, a member of the forum, who is over at WoV currently asked if I was gay. I responded that I was as I had long vowed never to hide in the closet and lie about that.

And then the attacks started and followed me to every forum. I don't care. I can handle that. Nobody can say anything anti-gay that I haven't heard before, as far back as high school. It's just that it should have been a non-issue on forums that are about gambling and blackjack. And on this forum there are clearly a number of very homophobic people, some APs that have chosen to pretend not to believe me because I am gay, despite that I have way more than proven I know what the fuck I am talking about on the subjects of things I do. But whatever. Like I always say, people can believe in the Easter bunny, Jack from the beanstalk and that the earth is flat, if it somehow makes them feel better.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

on this forum there are clearly a number of very homophobic people

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Calling someone "gay" in a derogatory or negative way is homophobic because you use implied sexual orientation as an insult, which implies that being gay is bad or wrong.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Who is gay and who isn't gay

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Yea I’m no fan of gays and I’ve been accused of being one because of my beliefs. Which is pure BS. Hell I’ve even been accused of being one because of my opinions. BUT it has nothing to do with my opinion on KJ, which I agreed he should have never exposed, but neither here nor there.

I could discuss all day life and gambling with the guy, like I did with Singer. And meet up with up with anyone.

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Originally Posted by The Boz

Yea I’m no fan of gays

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That is not what your boyfriend says. ;)

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Originally Posted by The Boz

I’ve been accused of being one

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The stereotype of "all Greeks being gay" may stem from the widely documented acceptance and commonality of same-sex behaviors and relationships in Ancient Greece, which were viewed within a very different cultural and social framework than modern concepts of sexual identity.

Did the pole close already? It's not letting me vote.

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Did the pole close

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How close is the pole?

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Originally Posted by The Boz

This will get you talking….

Rob, who I actually like, is in a no win situation here. He either supports an anti Trumper in the Turban Head or he supports an admitted homo.

Most of us here realize he picked the wrong horse because of his homophobia. Come on Rob, you know the sand guy who you originally called out is full of shit.

Or you could call both out, honestly I’m disappointed you would support one over the other.

Me, I’d bet everything I own KJ is far more honest compared to the “Dawg”, and you would too if we had to.

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It's amazing how someone will change their supposed moral code(or whatever you want to call it) to further support their agenda.

case in point, Redietz, originally a very anti-Mdawger, started summoning Mdawg to fuck with KJ.

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

It's amazing how someone will change.

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Time passes...things change.

A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.

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Originally Posted by coach belly

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

It's amazing how someone will change.

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Time passes...things change.

A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.

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So be a flip-flopping feeble trout. Lending credence to that old saying “it’s a woman’s prerogative to change her mind”

Understood. Makes it easier to understand your fucktard personality

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Originally Posted by Keystone

Makes it easier to understand your fucktard personality

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Your reply makes it easy to understand your prejudice.

Those who cannot change their minds cannot change anything.

KJ's narrative makes sense. He's an admitted mediocre AP who for some reason focused on counting instead of hole carding and the heyday of mail. No fucking clue why. He's obviously lied about a bunch of shit for reasons beyond me. But everything he says regarding gambling tracks, other than getting roughed up at southpoint.

The closeted homosexual on the other hand has lied about basically everything. He posted about wining 90% of his tie bets and hundreds of consecutive winning sessions and about counting down double decks on the strip spreading 100-10000 while the floor jerks him off. Don't get me started on the fake wife that stayed in suites with him for 100 straight days that dropped out of his stories. No married woman on this earth is staying in casino hotels for 100 days in a row while her retard gambles away all their money. Nothing the retard said has tracked. He honestly seems like a B79 clone trying to fuck or murder some online persona he's latched onto.

If KJ wasn't gay everyone with a moderately functioning brain would have laughed the B79 clone out of the building long ago. But there a lot of men that can't stand the thought of a man sticking his dick into another man, almost universally out of jealousy. Men who have no interest having a dick put in them tend to not give a shit if someone else enjoys that.

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Originally Posted by jdaewoo

KJ's narrative makes sense. He's an admitted mediocre AP who for some reason focused on counting instead of hole carding and the heyday of mail. No fucking clue why. He's obviously lied about a bunch of shit for reasons beyond me. But everything he says regarding gambling tracks, other than getting roughed up at southpoint.

The closeted homosexual on the other hand has lied about basically everything. He posted about wining 90% of his tie bets and hundreds of consecutive winning sessions and about counting down double decks on the strip spreading 100-10000 while the floor jerks him off. Don't get me started on the fake wife that stayed in suites with him for 100 straight days that dropped out of his stories. No married woman on this earth is staying in casino hotels for 100 days in a row while her retard gambles away all their money. Nothing the retard said has tracked. He honestly seems like a B79 clone trying to fuck or murder some online persona he's latched onto.

If KJ wasn't gay everyone with a moderately functioning brain would have laughed the B79 clone out of the building long ago. But there a lot of men that can't stand the thought of a man sticking his dick into another man, almost universally out of jealousy. Men who have no interest having a dick put in them tend to not give a shit if someone else enjoys that.

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zzzzzz.....This retard is a closeted homosexual

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This retard is a closeted homosexual.

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KJ's narrative makes sense. He's an admitted mediocre AP who for some reason focused on counting instead of hole carding and the heyday of mail. No fucking. clue why. He's obviously lied about a bunch of shit for reasons beyond me. But everything he says regarding gambling tracks, other than getting roughed up at southpoint.

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Thank you (somewhat) for most of those comments jdaewoo. There is a reason why most of what I share about what I do, "tracks". :cool:

But at the same time, lets not get carried away with the "admitted mediocre AP". I think I am a good AP. I just have chosen to remain playing mostly blackjack (card counting) which I know you and many APs look down on. But along the way I have done a number of other things in a supplemental role, including mail. We (my partner and I) didn't do multi-carding with 100 accounts or anything, but we had 3-4 accounts at most of the places giving good mail for 8-9 years until my partner passed. It was a good supplemental play for us for many years.

I have explained my view on hole-carding. I did some in AC for a short time and again a little bit solo after I moved to Vegas. But just didn't much care for it. Didn't care for winning that way. Not illegal. Not cheating, I just didn't care for it. I cast no aspersions on those that did hole-carding and did well.

Plus, I moved to Las Vegas to count cards after having worn out my welcome in Atlantic City. I liked blackjack, counting cards and winning by that means. Still do, although after 20+ years it is starting to be a little less enjoyable. I don't jump out of bed on the weekend days I now play and say "oh great, I get to play blackjack today/tonight.". :D

Really I try not to judge anyone and try to treat everyone fair, until they start with me. All I really ask is if someone is telling some fantastical gambling stories, at the very least have the math work, along with how the casino industry really works. I don't want any magic potions, or "special plays". I don't want someone claiming they are rainman. And I don't want someone telling me they win millions, receive no counter-measures and the casinos and personnel love them for it. In other words, I don't want someone pissing on my leg and telling me it is raining.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

kewlJ, the problem is here that you can't cast yourself as a serious poster if you are going to tell major lies to back up other stories. Even if the original stories are true, once you resort to lying in order to convince doubters that these things really happened, you've killed your own credibility.

You want your claims and stories to be taken at face value. Once you're caught fibbing, it's hard to achieve that.

I will admit that I am very puzzled regarding what is the actual truth with you.

a lot of what you write could be total fiction. You're definitely someone who isn't adverse to lying on forums if it suits you to do so.

Had MaxPen not done his searching, we would probably still be reading long essays about the lawsuits, and how we are all fools to be doubting it.

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Compulsive liar is a fair assessment of what he is. If people go back and look at your last few stories they will see a trend in you always changing the story after you get caught lying.

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This retard is a closeted homosexual.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

I try not to judge anyone and try to treat everyone fair, until they start with me.

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Nobody ever started with you...you started every single dispute that you've had on this forum.

That is a fact.

I almost deleted this thread, but instead removed the slur and left it.

If it becomes too much trash, I'm just going to kill it.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

I almost deleted this thread, but instead removed the slur and left it.

If it becomes too much trash, I'm just going to kill it.

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Because you give a shit about this place or your “reputation”?

The term Sand N is your legacy, no different from what you allow against Jews and others at your other forum.

Did the Dawg pay you off or is this another Sonatine situation? To be fair the rumor is he let the little man watch him fuck his wife. You have never been accused of being involved in stuff like that….to my knowledge.

Face it Druff, your record isn’t exactly clean on this subject.

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Originally Posted by The Boz

I’ve been accused of being one

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The stereotype of "all Greeks being gay" may stem from the widely documented acceptance and commonality of same-sex behaviors and relationships in Ancient Greece, which were viewed within a very different cultural and social framework than modern concepts of sexual identity.

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Remember this somber warning “Beware of Greeks in tennis shoes.”

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Originally Posted by The Boz

I’ve been accused of being one

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The stereotype of "all Greeks being gay" may stem from the widely documented acceptance and commonality of same-sex behaviors and relationships in Ancient Greece, which were viewed within a very different cultural and social framework than modern concepts of sexual identity.

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Remember this somber warning “Beware of Greeks in tennis shoes.”

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Living near the largest Greek city in America I see this a lot and will remember it.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

kewlJ has been a whiner, a liar, a hypocrite, and a pain in the ass on many occasions

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The entire forum knows you have an issue with pathological lying.

Other forums also know you have an issue with pathological lying.

Maybe you should listen to what everyone else says, and take a look in the mirror.

you can't help but insert fibs into your postings, and sometimes they're not very believable fibs, and the entire thing comes crashing down.

You also pulled a death hoax on another forum.

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In the city of Volos, Greece north of Athens there's a small family owned café where in the back there's a door. On the outside of that door is a sign saying "Greek Entry Only" with a rudimentary painting of a laughing woman in an apron and a Greek man doing another man doggie style.

Those people know who they are.

Why isn't this retard pretending to hit a jackpot in someone's basement?

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Originally Posted by The Boz

This will get you talking….

Rob, who I actually like, is in a no win situation here. He either supports an anti Trumper in the Turban Head or he supports an admitted homo.

Most of us here realize he picked the wrong horse because of his homophobia. Come on Rob, you know the sand guy who you originally called out is full of shit.

Or you could call both out, honestly I’m disappointed you would support one over the other.

Me, I’d bet everything I own KJ is far more honest compared to the “Dawg”, and you would too if we had to.

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Boz, what I support about mdawg is his relentless takedowns of kew, because I KNOW what a habitual liar kew is--both about me and himself. Sure he talks a good game when it comes to his overwhelming fascination with bj. That's what any con-jobber learns to do well. They also learn that they can't shut their mouths when they should, and eventually learn that truthful pro AP's dont spend the better part of their lives online talking, arguing, and trying to convince everyone about it.

I agree mdawg's gambling claims are extreme and he's anti-Trump. But my having profited a decent amount while playing very slightly -EV games in my career leads me to wonder if mdawg's reported results are just outwordly embellishments rather than lies. Wizard, for all the criticisms you guys have about him, DID verify that mdawg actually plays AND IS A REAL PERSON. That alone makes anything kew claims look feeble since he's too chickenshit to face anybody. And all those comps he says he gets--win or lose, they're not that unexpected. I've played high limit vp for a long time, and I've done very well on them. Someone like Bob Dancer has also, and everyone hears him say he wins. Yet it's a rare day when even known names get tossed for winning. And the comps just keep on coming, regardless.

Although at a lower level, I had a partial summer to never forget at Atlantis this year, ending up waaay ahead with all our meals, suites and rides around town to wherever we wanted to go, comped. And what happened? They "annointed" me their top players level just after leaving for the year.

I just look at all this stuff here as entertainment of some sort.

I don't think I want to jump on this fagwagon.

Sorry, I just couldn't resist that one.

What do you call a gay Middle Easterner?

A Sandpacker.

But on a serious note I think that now in 2025 someone who is just plain old vanilla gay is basically normal.

You might even call them quaint.

With some of the stuff you see nowadays doesn’t anyone get nostalgic for the good old days when there were just straight people & gay people?