Originally Posted by
blackhole
Since I left this place voluntarily, it became an endless comical gift to stop in here and read what presently takes place. When someone as pathetic as Tasha becomes any site’s main poster; there is no need to explain … I rest my case.
I felt I had to comment after reading this thread, since I do consider myself well informed when it comes to thoughbred horse racing. Especially when it comes to New York and surrounding tracks.
Owners, trainers, jockeys, agents, vets, all play different parts trying to achieve the same objective of making a living off the backs of horses. That’s a lot of families to feed.
Horse racing especially on the east coast / New York has evolved into one of the most crooked, back stabbing, group of people all the way from the horse shit cleaners to the people in the winner’s circles. This includes NYRA, training timers, etc. etc. The list is endless and sad.
Handicapping top of the line horses from 2-year olds to top of the line derby type races is about the only chance you have of getting close to running to known form information. The problem is there aren’t enough of those top of the line horses and races to even consider trying to make a steady profit on year-round.
95% of most of all the rest of the races throughout the year are loaded with unknowns. Drugs, back stabbing, endless experimentation and research is endlessly going on to get an edge.
It could cost a horse owner upwards of 35K a year just to train, feed, stall in New York. When combined with the purchase price it gets very expensive real fast. Without hitting the pay board often, you better have deep pockets, and I could assure you most owners are broken down shoe bullshit artist wannabes.
I’ve seen and was part of the daily endless hanky panky horse racing owners game for a decade.
The planning, scamming, detouring, cheating, back stabbing, taking place before any race is more important to know than the actual horse’s real condition.
Of course, over time drug testing for horses has evolved, but don’t think for one second the search for new cheating research will ever end. The Oscar drugging days of claiming mules then winning cheap stake races with the same horses weeks later is for sure over.
I can’t even recall how many races I know about where the trainer is using a race for nothing more than a prep race for the following week with no intentions of even trying to win. The jockeys are given precise instructions and abide. How many of the smart guys were betting on that horse to hit the board?
I should start a thread and enter different facts I witnessed in the horse racing game. I could only imagine when considering all the people involved what really goes on.
I can’t say for sure what goes on with the high end 5% of the horses but, I wouldn’t doubt anything I heard.
A race horse usually has 3 to 5 years to prove its investment value. Trust me, whatever it takes in such a short period of time to achieve a profit will be done, even if it means risking the horse’s life.
Oh yea, no matter what you handicappers think or say, the people really involved aren’t even reading or listening, and couldn’t care less.
