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That's not a sentiment I've heard or read too often.
Here's an interesting piece of an earlier thread...
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Originally Posted by AxelWolf
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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Would any of you care to elaborate on all this?Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
What are the negatives about visiting or living in Las Vegas, what makes you find it boring or less desirable compared to other places that you've lived?
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Originally Posted by coach belly
Las Vegas is one dimensional with the focus being on casinos and gambling, and that ain't a good thing.
The weather is too damned hot most of the time to enjoy the great outdoors: who wants to hike, bike or do anything outdoors in the brutal heat of the Mohave desert?
It's a long drive to anywhere where the weather is comfortable.
Of course, I am comparing it to Portland / Oregon, and there's really no comparison when it comes to quality of life.
I haven't been to Las Vegas now for a couple years and have no immediate plans to return soon as I have casinos fairly close by and live in what is probably the best part of the country.
Thanks for asking.
When you get out of the gambling zones and into the neighborhoods Las Vegas sucks. But the gambling zones bring something to do 24/7. I tried Las Vegas in both 1980 and 1987. Both times I came to the conclusion that I would never have any money working in a gambling town. So I bailed out. Of course, I knew nothing about casino gambling then. Hit the town again in 1992, the gambling wiped me out, but for some reason I was bound and determined to learn how to do it right. After getting a schooling in strategic gambling, took a few years, Las Vegas became the easiest town in America. You don't have to work for anybody or anything. You just have to know how to gamble with an edge and stay away from the sucker gambling.
Agree that the weather is too hot in the summer, but as an extreme pinball fan I doubt I would get bored there with the Pinball Hall of Fame and other big spots (Flipperspiel, etc.). But the vulture competition is fierce there so I would probably just play pinball most of the time when I visit.
I hate going to restaurants to sit by myself. I'm tired of boring dates with women I don't want to be with. Yes, you get tired of playing video poker and craps too.
I had more fun today going to the supermarket and talking to another shopper about the congestion in the parking lot.
Sadly Alan, unless you have a more permanent relationship, it doesn't really matter where you are located. You still are looking at dinner alone and boredom, whether in Las Vegas, Los Angeles, or wherever. Even if you have a relationship, if you don't have hobbies and interests boredom will come.
I am not that much younger than you, but I have always said I wouldn't ever date again if my wife weren't here. Don't have the patience for that game. I will continue to work, albeit less and less hours, as long as I feel I can still do the job well (assuming I ever did it well).
But I never tire of playing the horses, so I always have that to pass the time. VP is good for an hour or two now and then, but I can play horses and never tire of it. Luckily I have many other interests as well. Most of my clients that retired too soon with too much money got bored quickly and tried to get back into other businesses. Unfortunately, it had passed them by and they got murdered. Should have found a hobby and stayed retired.
Regnis I wasnt bored in LA. Maybe it was that the "pool" of single women was better? Or maybe that I spent so much time in TRAFFIC that there was so little time left to be bored? LOL
This is going to sound crazy but the easy lifestyle of Vegas does contribute to the boredom.
Consider where I live: everything I need is within a radius of 3.3 miles and there's never any traffic. There's also free, easy parking everywhere I go with no hunting for parking places.
In LA I spent no less than three hours driving every day. Some days it was four hours in the car and then hunting for a legal spot to park.
The stores were crowded in LA, and the only way to avoid congestion in the supermarket was to shop at 2-AM.
In Vegas there's no congestion anywhere but even when my local supermarket had a crowded parking lot today, inside the store there was no wait to check out and no traffic jam in the aisles.
I lived in LA for 30 years and I'm thinking that now that I don't have to spend three to four hours in my car every day that I've become bored with the new free time it gives me living in Vegas.
alan, do you read much?
I do, it helps pass the time and I enjoy it.
Do you hang out much with your son / his family?
I do with mine and I enjoy it.
Do you work out at a fitness center daily and walk before bed time?
I do, etc.
The point: find things you enjoy doing and build them into your routine.
Caveat: Looking for a woman to give you meaning and purpose is as stupid as seeking salvation in a casino.
Hang on there V, I do have a girlfriend now and she's my first real girlfriend in a couple of years (though I've dated frequently).
Go back and read my post about traffic. Really. Give yourself an extra 3-4 hours a day, plus take the wait time out of doing daily chores and suddenly you have an extra 4-5 hours.
If you had an extra 4-5 hours a day what would you do?
How much extra time would you spend at the gym? LOL
I spent too many years wasting 3 to 4 hours commuting to and from the office. Then I opened a second office in the suburbs with a 20 minute drive. I now am 10 minutes from work and haven’t seen the downtown office in years.
What do I do with the extra time? I sleep one more hour and work out 70 minutes after work.
Like V I also recommend reading. I have been a reader all my life and it helps pass the time.
I do like the 24 hour aspect of Las Vegas as I am a night owl. In the suburbs here you can’t even get coffee after 9. I do admire your desire to date. I really wouldn’t have the desire to do it. You can always find sex.
If I had a few extra hours in my day I'd do the same things I do now.
Since I don't fight traffic like you did in LA I have those extra hours.
I have a seven minute drive to the office, and from there a ten minute jaunt to the courthouse.
Nothing wrong with having a wife or a girl friend: my point is just don't look to her to provide you meaning and purpose.
Are we not men?
Stimulation, companionship, warmth and love are fine and normal, but I do nothing but sneer at guys I see who are pussy-whipped.
Not that you are whipped, but you could be.
Whether or not you're "bored" where you live is all a very simple by-product of whether or not you have a happy and stable life. Unfortunately, someone who makes a lifelong habit of dating/marriage/divorce/dating is probably going to find fault with a lot of things.
It makes no sense to move from LV back to LA solely for another woman, when the track record overwhelmingly points to the obvious. Is there no lessons learned by now? I would think that Alan would never want to leave LV after living in and around that expensive, freak-filled liberal cesspool called LA. He lives in a decent area away from all the riff-raff, and how many of you wouldn't enjoy being within a few minutes of Red Rock. Hot summers are truly a non-issue.
Life is what you make it. You want trouble, poverty, and misery then you can find it. You want happiness, comfort and safety then you can have it. You want health then you do your best and respectfully treat your body like the extraordinary miracle it really is. It doesn't matter a lick where you choose to live, even if it's in the libtard-infested constantly wet Northwest.
Reading. No. And let me explain why.
As a reporter I read and read and read. As an Assignment Editor for three years at CBS I read the constant stream of news on teletypes (pre computers) from AP, UPI, Reuters, PR Newswire, etc. I HATE READING.
Frankly I had a 24/7 news career and when you have an extra few hours it's easy to be bored.
To be honest, I'd go back to street reporting if anyone would hire me. No benefits needed -- I have them all. LOL
I've lived in both LA and Vegas (more in LA).
Advantages to LA area:
- Better year round weather (warmer in winter than Vegas, cooler in summer)
- Presence of all major sports teams (though Vegas is finally getting NFL, and has NHL)
- Extremely large population within driving distance
- Extremely varied climates/scenery within driving distance (forests, mountains, oceans, deserts)
- Better health care (Vegas health care is dreadful)
- Better public school system (if you live in the right cities, and not anything with LAUSD)
- More cultured
Advantages to Vegas:
- Casinos everywhere if you enjoy that
- Less traffic
- Everything is closer
- Lots of entertainment options (all close)
- Lots of dining options (all close)
- Weather in early-mid spring and mid-fall is better (LA is a bit cool, Vegas is beautiful)
- Legal sportsbetting (so far it hasn't come to California yet)
- You live where most people you know eventually visit, so you can see friends/family from out of the area easily
- Young women less shallow and more willing to date older guys (though some are gold diggers)
- Cheaper housing (way more house for the same money)
I will say that Vegas can get depressing if you're there too long and don't leave. Even if your own life circumstance is good, it's hard to avoid seeing so many others around you self-destructing, and it happens more in Vegas than anywhere else I've seen.
Vegas does have a degree of isolation, too. Aside from Henderson, which is basically just suburban Vegas, there's nothing for a long way in any direction. So if you want to go anywhere, it's 300 miles no matter what (or more).
You're right about health care, Dan. Everyone I know says that when they have the chance to plan something they go to LA.
So easy for you to say this Bullshit as you drink another whatever and watch TV.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
This does not apply to every person or situation.
Plenty of North Koreans would disagree with you.
Plenty of citizens in other countries with no real food, shelter or drinkable water.
Plenty of children sold into slavery these days for sexual whatever.
Children in India getting their arms cut off to be put on the street to beg for their employer.
You have been dealt a winning hand in life.
Try that "life is what you make of it" speech when you are a minority with no choice or ability or just basically dealt a losing hand from the get go.
Try being born with a mental disorder/physical defect and see how easy life is what you make of it.
Obviously all the casino & gambling stuff.
I like the Vegas weather, at least when it's hot out. I can't stand this bullshit cold winter time, it's awful.
It's nice that stuff is actually open late or 24/7. Outside of LV, lots of stuff is closed by 8 or 10pm it seems.
Easy to fly in/out of LV. Like Druff said, people are going to visit LV anyway because it's a tourist destination and lots of conferences or w/e here so people come for work. Just about everywhere I've flown to has a direct flight from LV, so don't have to do connecting flights.
Restaurants are great, especially since they're pretty much all attached to a casino, not hard to get comps. Also easy to get comps for friends and family for hotel rooms. Although this is probably more due to AP than just living in LV.
Lots of shows (although I'm not a huge fan), but supposedly they're world class.
I have excellent Internet where I live which is nice because I enjoy streaming Netflix, YouTube videos, and playing an online video game. Where I've lived in the past, the Internet was absolutely atrocious, it was super slow and would cut out a lot. I guess that's not particularly dependent on being in LV, since the neighborhood over could have terrible Internet. I just clocked it at 267Mbps download and 32Mbps upload. :)
Vegas seems pretty relaxed to me. Maybe it's just me in my aging years, but seems like when/where I was growing up, there was a lot more drama and bullshit with people. Obviously there are other places like in the South or the Midwest(?) where there's even a more relaxed atmosphere. I think I'd hate to live in the Northeast....or at least that's a stereotype they have, right?
I'm like RS and I hate the cold too. I left New York in 1980 to get away from cold. I don't mind 115 degrees and I wear a jacket when it's under 70 degrees.
I could live in Vegas but would prefer Reno/Tahoe/Fernley area. Love the desert but I'm about as far away as a person can get from one. I haven't played VP or BJ for over six months. I'm not working so I think I'll take a ride to Mohegan Sun today. Thanks for the suggestion. They also have those new skill based slots to check out.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS__
I suspect that as with many guys, retirement does not agree with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
As I understand it, you kept active until recently with your bestbuys activities: not as stimulating as when you were a reporter perhaps but you made money and were still active in the game.
While I am not really sure about it, it's my impression that since moving to Sin City your bestbuys activity has either ended or been severely diminished, due to forces beyond your control such as changes in media and marketing, IIRC.
So now you're bored in part at least because you're no longer filling a chunk of your time with work.
Understandable, and for most of us guys unavoidable.
This kind of stuck out to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
You've always been busy doing one thing or another, and now find yourself with considerably less to do. That may or may not change wherever you might live.
Have you ever considered trying something new based on your previous experiences? Perhaps teaching a class on broadcasting. Maybe volunteering for something you believe in, or even consulting in industries you have knowledge of. And if you thought about it I bet you'd find others that might appeal to you.
All of these can be done on a part time basis, but would both fill in a little time as well as give you "meaning".
Alan would be great as a street reporter once again. No doubt about it. He has the passion, the look, the voice, and the draw-the-crowd in charisma to want people to tune in.
There's two sides to every story however. From my perspective which is totally different from his and likely everyone else's here, I'm completely baffled about how retired men keep on wishing they were not so bored with their lives. It's all about what goes on inside their heads. Just think--if young prisoners can find other ways to keep their minds busy for 20 years, it should be a piece of cake for regular folk.
It's all about the choices you make throughout your life. Alan is always looking for a new woman because he always seems to run into bad luck with them forever reason. And it's true. Finding someone to share your life with you and yours with them, is a big key to future happiness regardless what the world throws at you. He hasn't been successful doing that, which screams DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT!
I hope he figures out how to keep his mind and body busy. Retirement was NOT meant to suffer thru.
I still do my TV show and Infomercials but I've gone from (if I can use this analogy) 130mph to 35mph. The daily thrills are gone.
Take a nap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
I am assuming that Las Vegas is like The Twilight Zone,"A Nice Place To Visit," where gambling, booze, fancy digs, beautiful women, fancy clothes are really fun....For like a month before you start to get bored with all that fun.....
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tasha
It is a horrible place to live.
I pray that none of you, on this forum, move here.
I also ask that the ones who do live in Vegas move to some other part of the world asap.
Thank You and Thank God!
I have Kindle with about 100 books on my windows phone. I can sit down and start reading anytime, anywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by regnis
During the campaigns all the politicians in Montana are in the media wearing cowboy hats. No one wears cowboy hats anymore. Just the politicians.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
They got a pool of single women in the brothels up in Nye County. Did you say you had an extra 4 or 5 hours a day?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Try Amazon Prime Video.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Play 18...especially if it was warm & dry every day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Speaking of "The Twilight Zone:" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_9IvaNgT7sQuote:
Originally Posted by Tasha
If you really want to play golf, Florida is for you. Many communities are built around golf courses.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyPlay 18...especially if it was warm & dry every day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Ah, but Florida has more lightning strikes than any other part of the country.
Just where you want to be with a metal pole pointed up toward the dark and cloudy sky.
Yes, but it's not warm and dry in Florida...it's warm and swampy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
My parents live in The Villages...150 thousand 55+ and still among the fastest growing areas in the USA.
Everybody lives on a golf course, everybody drives a golf cart.
I visit them often...it's a (relatively) wild scene...like New Orleans for grandparents.
Now how foolish is that.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
You're trying to troll even this?
Epic failure.
I troll your posts on average 9 1/2 times per week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Epic liar.
The worst thing one can do is move to Vegas with no plan and no way to support yourself.
I've seen so many people just move there for a "fresh start", and it always ends up in failure. They return back to where they came from within a few years.
Also, Vegas is a very bad place to move if you have addiction issues -- gambling, drinking, drugs, etc. It will just get worse.
Not just Las Vegas: it happens in Portland too.
People come here thinking their shitty lives will improve but they usually don't.
When they leave home they leave any support network behind, be it family, friends, co-workers.
Being alone in a strange new town, no job, little money set aside is an open invitation to becoming homeless.
Is a beautiful place. I would consider a vacation house there.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
My grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins lived just over the bridge in Long View, WA. Compared to many other WA cities Long View was kinda crappy IMO, that and Tacoma.
Do you ever go fishing? The fishing used to be great there. I fished Beaver creek falls with my Granddad often. We fished other places there as well but I cant recall the names.
AHHH! The aroma of Tacoma. It's real folks. Smells like a paper mill. But Gig Harbor just outside Tacoma is very nice. I used to live around the Seattle area, Burien, Redmond, Everett. I used to work the canneries in Bellingham in season. It's pretty nice up in that area too. The San Juan Islands in Puget Sound are also nice, tied together by a ferry system.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfIs a beautiful place. I would consider a vacation house there.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
My grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins lived just over the bridge in Long View, WA. Compared to many other WA cities Long View was kinda crappy IMO, that and Tacoma.
Do you ever go fishing? The fishing used to be great there. I fished Beaver creek falls with my Granddad often. We fished other places there as well but I cant recall the names.
I really like the Oregon coast. Got two sisters that live just outside Corvallis. I always go to the coast when I'm there. Southern Oregon along I-5 is nice. Inland around Bend/Redmond is also nice.
For awhile the Oregon Video Lottery had a few exploitable games. I toured the whole state. Pretty much saw every nook and cranny.
Tacoma has improved quite a bit from what it once was; the big, smelly smelter is gone, and gentrification has improved most of the once crappy 'hoods.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf;81141.
As for fishing: when I was a kid growing up outside of NYC I subscribed to Sports Afield and Outdoor Life and loved all the stories about fishing and hunting in the Pac NW; I told myself I'd do it when I grew up.
Well, as it turned out I don't enjoy eating fish or venison, so I haven't seriously pursued fishing or hunting since moving west.
Not my thread genius. Everything you post is just a little off.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterVI troll your posts on average 9 1/2 times per week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Epic liar.
The only decent part about Oregon is it's coast. There's more useless potheads, freeloaders, filth-ridden mountain-man wannabees, junk pickup truck-driving hard working boys, and poverty up there than in any libtard-infested part of this country.
We go up to the Cape Kiwanda RV park or hotel every year just because it's on the ocean and the Pelican Bay Pub/restaurant is such a great place to eat. But all it does is rain. And on every Friday, in comes all the weekend warrior yahoos from Portland in their 25-yr. old run down campers who do nothing but drink, smoke cigarettes and weed like true idiots, and sit outside big-mouthing in the rain in their cheap lawn chairs, acting like its another nice day.
I can't WAIT to go back up there in the spring wearing my MAGA hat again. Those morons are STILL whining and in glorious denial about their poor crooked Hillary losing to the magnificent Donald Trump!
Cape Kiwanda RV Park:
Those aren't RV's mickey. If you had an education you'd have known that.
Since you always have time on your hands for gambling related forums, how about giving them a call and ask what their monthly rate is for the summer months, which is where we usually spend a month of our time as we slowly, leisurely motor on out to S. Dakota each year.
It'll help you wise up.
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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
https://capekiwandarvresort.com/Rates.html
Not exactly Beverly Hill there Robbo.
It looks like a pretty nice RV park.
About an hour away from Chinook Winds Casino, similar distance from Spirit Mtn. Casino.
Yep, pretty much the same as Arizona. Except Arizona has more of your favorite people, the illegals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.SingerNot my thread genius. Everything you post is just a little off.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterVI troll your posts on average 9 1/2 times per week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Epic liar.
The only decent part about Oregon is it's coast. There's more useless potheads, freeloaders, filth-ridden mountain-man wannabees, junk pickup truck-driving hard working boys, and poverty up there than in any libtard-infested part of this country.
We go up to the Cape Kiwanda RV park or hotel every year just because it's on the ocean and the Pelican Bay Pub/restaurant is such a great place to eat. But all it does is rain. And on every Friday, in comes all the weekend warrior yahoos from Portland in their 25-yr. old run down campers who do nothing but drink, smoke cigarettes and weed like true idiots, and sit outside big-mouthing in the rain in their cheap lawn chairs, acting like its another nice day.
I can't WAIT to go back up there in the spring wearing my MAGA hat again. Those morons are STILL whining and in glorious denial about their poor crooked Hillary losing to the magnificent Donald Trump!
The illegals do my yards, and I have one on-call who's my handyman. I recently hired a crew of them for some cement work and to put up a new fence in my backyard along the golf course. I speak Spanish so we get along well, and I bring them all a beer everyday when they take their lunch breaks. But for all I know some of them could be killers at night.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmYep, pretty much the same as Arizona. Except Arizona has more of your favorite people, the illegals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.SingerNot my thread genius. Everything you post is just a little off.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
The only decent part about Oregon is it's coast. There's more useless potheads, freeloaders, filth-ridden mountain-man wannabees, junk pickup truck-driving hard working boys, and poverty up there than in any libtard-infested part of this country.
We go up to the Cape Kiwanda RV park or hotel every year just because it's on the ocean and the Pelican Bay Pub/restaurant is such a great place to eat. But all it does is rain. And on every Friday, in comes all the weekend warrior yahoos from Portland in their 25-yr. old run down campers who do nothing but drink, smoke cigarettes and weed like true idiots, and sit outside big-mouthing in the rain in their cheap lawn chairs, acting like its another nice day.
I can't WAIT to go back up there in the spring wearing my MAGA hat again. Those morons are STILL whining and in glorious denial about their poor crooked Hillary losing to the magnificent Donald Trump!
One good thing about here is, unlike the snowflake states of Wash., Calif. and Oregon, there are very few of those effeminate, ridiculous, ugly Priuses roaming around the streets aimlessly.
Not True.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
I have property in the Phoenix Area.
Discount Cab and other Cab Companies have the Toyota Prius everywhere you look.
Wise Up.
What you call snowflakes and libtards can be found in the cities and metro areas of Oregon and Washington, but the rural parts of the states are very conservative: there is a great divide between the two.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Were you to call someone in Burns or John Day Oregon a snowflake or a libtard you'd be in for a bit of fisticuffs.
True that V. We’re down in southwest Oregon- Josephine County. Very conservative, just the way we like it...Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterVWhat you call snowflakes and libtards can be found in the cities and metro areas of Oregon and Washington, but the rural parts of the states are very conservative: there is a great divide between the two.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Were you to call someone in Burns or John Day Oregon a snowflake or a libtard you'd be in for a bit of fisticuffs.
You have nothing in the Phx. area and are as full of crap about fleets of Priuses as you are about how you use Chink money to gamble with.Quote:
Originally Posted by monetNot True.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
I have property in the Phoenix Area.
Discount Cab and other Cab Companies have the Toyota Prius everywhere you look.
Wise Up.
It's the cities with population, not the sticks. That's why those states have such a washed-up reputation for being libtard stoners. No one in the cities cares a lick about the poor country folk.Quote:
Originally Posted by dannyjTrue that V. We’re down in southwest Oregon- Josephine County. Very conservative, just the way we like it...Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterVWhat you call snowflakes and libtards can be found in the cities and metro areas of Oregon and Washington, but the rural parts of the states are very conservative: there is a great divide between the two.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Were you to call someone in Burns or John Day Oregon a snowflake or a libtard you'd be in for a bit of fisticuffs.
Of course they do: more so than most anywhere else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Why else are so many city folks actively involved in the environmental movement?
They're trying to save the world, and even you must concede that couuntry folk are part of the world.
Also Portland folk seem to give generously to many charities, which helps all of us.
Sorry, Singer, but your pompous proclamation once again flies in the face of reality; hell you could say it nine and a half times and you'd still be wrong.
Says the man with no real assets living in a broken ass camper in one of his kids driveways while salivating over the son in laws antique communication center. Wise UpQuote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Mickey and Rob. You guys travel a lot? What are some of the best places in the US you've visited and why?
Neither do you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
One of the surprising things about Vegas is the lack of 24 hour supermarkets and 24 hour restaurants. Outside of casinos, everything here shuts down around 1-AM.
I thought that with casinos being open around the clock other businesses would be too, but that's just not the case.
Yes, I did find one 24 hour pharmacy and one 24 hour supermarket but they're not close by. When I lived in LA there were plenty of all night businesses, even dry cleaners.
That surprised me, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
However, once you get away from the casinos, Las Vegas is just a regular mid-sized city... with a gambling problem.
Pretty nice in the Grants Pass area. I remember those Zane Grey novels about the Rogue River when I was a kid. That 7 Feathers casino at Canyonville had some harleys, golden egypts and ocean magics the last time I was there.Quote:
Originally Posted by dannyjTrue that V. We’re down in southwest Oregon- Josephine County. Very conservative, just the way we like it...Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterVWhat you call snowflakes and libtards can be found in the cities and metro areas of Oregon and Washington, but the rural parts of the states are very conservative: there is a great divide between the two.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Were you to call someone in Burns or John Day Oregon a snowflake or a libtard you'd be in for a bit of fisticuffs.
So Robocchio uses illegal labor to save a buck. Now tell us again how much you support the wall. What a hypocrite.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.SingerThe illegals do my yards, and I have one on-call who's my handyman. I recently hired a crew of them for some cement work and to put up a new fence in my backyard along the golf course. I speak Spanish so we get along well, and I bring them all a beer everyday when they take their lunch breaks. But for all I know some of them could be killers at night.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmYep, pretty much the same as Arizona. Except Arizona has more of your favorite people, the illegals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
One good thing about here is, unlike the snowflake states of Wash., Calif. and Oregon, there are very few of those effeminate, ridiculous, ugly Priuses roaming around the streets aimlessly.
That would be a lot of places. I can't think of them all at once. I'll start with Summit County, Colorado. I-70 from Denver cuts through Summit County. The road climbs to 13,000 feet in altitude and you go through the Eisenhower Tunnel, then drop down into Summit County with towns like Frisco, Silverthorne, Dillon, Breckinridge. Those towns are 8700 to 9600 feet above sea level. They got some famous ski areas, Copper Mountain, Arapahoe, Breckinridge, Keystone. It's all high altitude mountainous country. The scenery is just magnificent. High mountain peaks everywhere. It can snow any month of the year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moses
I found the place back in 1984. I was driving through Colorado on I-70 and pulled off at Frisco to get some gas. There was a Job Service sign on the off ramp. I had never seen that before so I went to investigate. Job Service was empty. Other than the employee's I was the only one in there. All kinds of jobs on the wall. The place had zero unemployment rate. Lots of ski lodge type hotels and a huge shortage of maids. Men actually worked as maids there but that was a little below my dignity. Construction was booming. Lots of homes and commercial buildings being built.
But it was the day labor office that caught my eye. Lots of jobs laying on the table. The guy told me to pick out whichever one I wanted. I had never seen that before. In most day labors you had to cue up in the line early to get out for the day or you drew numbers to be placed on the list. Draw a good number you get out, draw a bad number you don't. And the wages were $8 to $9 an hour. This what at a time when day labor payed about $4 an hour downstream.
With it being a laborer's market I had no need of a regular job. Just go in and pick out a job everyday. I kept returning to Summit County over the next 12 years because it was so easy to get work there. And that day labor office played a roll when I was first trying to jump start a gambling career.
Interesting Mick. Small world. I played ball in Idaho Springs my sophomore year. Coach wouldn't allow us to ski. But I worked in a ski shop. I remember those bus trips to Frisco, Glenwood Springs, Winter Park, Granby and thinking holy crap. How will we get home? It seems the miners would make a lot of money for those days. Good paying jobs were easy to find if one wanted to work hard.
I've heard the Black Hills, Yellowstone, are interesting and Cody, Wyoming seems like a unique place for fishing along the Shoshonee River. As long as those Teepee's are air conditioned. lol
It will be interesting to see if South Dakota gives Deadwood sportsbetting. The town could really use that shot in the arm.Quote:
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Right on about healthcare. Almost made a move to LV a few years ago. Wife is a cancer survivor and still needs follow-up care. Have a number of long time friends in LV.Asked about referrals for her situation, reply:the airport-gotta go to LA. Hence a visitor rather than a resident.
Also the South Carolina area for golf although FL. has many more courses. Cost of living lower in NC/SC.
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Originally Posted by mickeycrimmPretty nice in the Grants Pass area. I remember those Zane Grey novels about the Rogue River when I was a kid. That 7 Feathers casino at Canyonville had some harleys, golden egypts and ocean magics the last time I was there.Quote:
Originally Posted by dannyjTrue that V. We’re down in southwest Oregon- Josephine County. Very conservative, just the way we like it...Quote:
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We’re in the county outside the city of GP. We like it a lot.
Moses, I'm from Massachusetts and aside from New England's badly misguided politics, I'm partial to just about everything there. The history, the food, the four seasons all make it a great place to have been brought up in, and there is no better location than Boston to spend your college years.
We're snowbirds out west now, spending the expanded summers outside of Arizona either in our favorite place on earth, around Lake Tahoe, or at our home in a desolate part of S. Dakota. We also as I'm sure you've seen the comments about, travel around in our RV as often as we can. In 2008, 2009, & 2010 we took 3 separate month-long 10,000 mile trips (in cars) around the 48 states and Alaska because we wanted to see every nook and cranny in this great country. Just too much to opine about. And honestly, the only part I would never consider living in is the deep south. Mosquitoes don't like me--they LOVE my 100% greaseball Italian skin. I lived a year in Hawaii and that got old real fast. LV doesn't interest me as a place to live--great place to visit only.
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Have to agree with you about Tahoe. If we make one last permanent move or at least a vacation home, it will be that area.
I understand why of course. But the jealous morons here will undoubtedly have something totally stupid to say about our also enjoying the solidarity of SD.Quote:
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Have to agree with you about Tahoe. If we make one last permanent move or at least a vacation home, it will be that area.
All cow pasture where you are at. Cowshit County. Mooooooooooooo!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.SingerI understand why of course. But the jealous morons here will undoubtedly have something totally stupid to say about our also enjoying the solidarity of SD.Quote:
Originally Posted by dannyjRob,Quote:
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Have to agree with you about Tahoe. If we make one last permanent move or at least a vacation home, it will be that area.
Interesting. My old Coach and his wife spend 6 months in Colorado and 6 months in Arizona. After his basketball coaching days which landed him in the Hall of Fame, he decided to coach girls golf just for something to do. He loved it. So his and wife started golfing. They bought a house on a golf course in Colorado, then found a townhome on a golf course in Arizona. Golf, year around, what a great idea! Just one problem. After all that, he decided he didn't like to play anymore.Quote:
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I think I'm about to embark on a new journey in life. One that will be to travel alone and make new friends each day and visiting old friends along the way. I'm getting fairly good at it. My friends, who recently celebrated their 50th anniversary tell me about their travels, so it serves as an outline of someone who's been there. My daughter and I went to Coos Bay, OR one Christmas and I've been to Zion National Park a couple of times. Both were very nice vacations. I like it so much here that it's hard to leave.
One thing I've never gotten into after living in Az. has been golf. Don't know why. Just never got interested....and we live on a golf course.Quote:
Originally Posted by MosesInteresting. My old Coach and his wife spend 6 months in Colorado and 6 months in Arizona. After his basketball coaching days which landed him in the Hall of Fame, he decided to coach girls golf just for something to do. He loved it. So his and wife started golfing. They bought a house on a golf course in Colorado, then found a townhome on a golf course in Arizona. Golf, year around, what a great idea! Just one problem. After all that, he decided he didn't like to play anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
I think I'm about to embark on a new journey in life. One that will be to travel alone and make new friends each day and visiting old friends along the way. I'm getting fairly good at it. My friends, who recently celebrated their 50th anniversary tell me about their travels, so it serves as an outline of someone who's been there. My daughter and I went to Coos Bay, OR one Christmas and I've been to Zion National Park a couple of times. Both were very nice vacations. I like it so much here that it's hard to leave.
I recommend actually doing that travel while you can. There will come a time when your body just says no. That's why we made those 3 long trips then, and so far now we're still able to shoot around in the RV--which is a ton of work esp. if you stop and set up a lot. The west is much better than the east to travel in because of the weather and the traffic.
Same with me. We lived on a golf course. The only time I was actually on the course was when my dogs escaped though the garage. What a fiasco! We had a swimming pool and my kids got scholarships in swimming, track, and basketball but I think I was only in the pool once. lol Too damn busy working.Quote:
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My "plan" was work to my tail off in the early years and then travel in my later years. That was just a wee bit a outside. Everyone travels but me. There for awhile I never knew what state my kids might be visiting. Now, it's what country. lol I think one has to learn how to work at having fun?Quote:
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Nothing wrong with having children who do well and travel. That alone is one of the great successes in life.
We try to stay out of California with the big RV but have taken our smaller camper over to the San Diego beaches area several times. I don't trust all those illegals over there driving around in their junk vehicles. Almost all of them are piss poor, and what do poor people do a lot of? Yup--they drink, smoke, and get too little sleep. Driving the big rig can be nerve-wracking enough with all the constant attention it takes to stay in your lane in busy traffic at highway speeds. I don't need to complicate that by exposing us to that element.
Speaking of which....tonight after going to see The Mule we're staying at Ak-Chin because we're driving over to Little Italy in San Diego tomorrow. In a car. :)
Lake Tahoe is pretty and quite scenic, but as a lake it is what I'd call a bit "one-dimensional."Quote:
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I prefer Lake Winnipesaukee in NH.
The film "On Golden Pond" was filmed on an adjoining albeit smaller lake, Squam Lake.
I stay out of my kids lives unless they solicit my opinion. Sometimes I think I was too tough on them growing up. But then I see the results. My youngest sent me her W2 to show she'd made six figures this year. This didn't include her part time job. Her ex, now back husband probably made at least 1/2 I would think. She was one of four of us in family of those that have passed and aunts and uncles to ever eclipse that mark and the 2nd to do it before her 30th birthday.Quote:
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However, a question and I don't mean to criticize. How can young people make so much money and never have a nickel to show for it these days?
This is part of why I'm so anti to these guys talking about the millions of dollars they make playing blackjack and running all over the country. She now has student loans to pay, after her college was already paid for, because her ex, now back husband convinced to take out loans is a lousy gambler and can't handle money. I wanted her to have college degree in hand, new car to drive, and $20k in the bank after college. Now all is gone. They've had to file bankruptcy and come to me for loans quite often which turned into gifts. Don't get me wrong, I like the guy but I've got to wonder where his elevator stops. He is 6'9" 290. I thinking it stops around the 6' mark.
I've tried to give her some quotes I live by when I was income driven. A penny saved is a penny earned. Don't put off anything until tomorrow that you can do today. The rule of 72. But I can tell it sails over their heads. These were straight A college student athletes now with college degrees. What are they teaching them?