Originally Posted by
blackhole
Just wanted to stop in and throw my 2 cents into the cup.
While I was a member at the WOV, I challenged any AP to meet up with me the weekend I was going to the Borgata for a poker tournament. The only person that contacted me was WON. He said he would see what’s going on that weekend and demonstrate to me his talents. We agreed to meet at the entrance to the poker room at a certain time on Saturday morning.
I can’t bring up my pm’s from WOV, but for some reason I started going back and forth with AxelWolf. I told him who I was meeting in AC and he warned me to be careful with anyone I meet from the forums. He warned that people in person may not have good intentions in so many words. Now, looking back I can’t help but suspect Axel knew more than he was saying.
I would never meet anyone unknown, especially from the internet anywhere that would put me in a dangerous position one on one. I was in AC with three other friends for the tournament which two were lingering across the entrance in the slot area keeping an eye on me from a safe distance. I took a photo of the time (9am) and date from my friend’s phone with the poker room in the background, and another at (10am) to confirm I was there. Obviously, he was a no show, and later said he had a flight that afternoon and didn’t think I would show up.
Now knowing the scumbag he actually is, why would he show up? He had to realize asking me to invest in any play would have been a joke in of itself. Not knowing then what I know now about AP’ing, I was expecting him to walk into the casino and magically start pulling AP bucks out of the thin air.
I later offered to meet up with Axel while staying in Vegas. That too was a no show, but, I understand Axels stance based on my past postings. Looking back now I also understand he must deal with plenty of these online scumbag AP’s and rightfully so should be skeptical.
What I did find interesting about Axel, was only after offering my house to him if he was ever on the East Coast and being able to shuttle back and forth to AC in a private plane, (not mine but a friend’s plane) he soon afterwards contacted me and offered an olive branch. He was willing to exchange phone numbers and felt by having a phone call with me live he would be able to evaluate if he could trust me and if I was full of shit or not. That raised the red flags for me and in so many nice words told him without saying it, to take a walk. It was obvious he only wanted to meet up when he felt there was something to gain.
It’s now obvious this is what AP’ing is all about. Advantage Play the casinos and any person that gets in between that could add to the advantage. Monet obviously speaks many truths, and the real scumbag alleged AP’s are the ones that deny his truths.
After reading Bob Dancers 2-part experience with WON, he did expose several things interesting about AP’ing.
Right off the bat he shares the bullshit and not so straight up moves like phony names, cards, sharing free play with others, etc. The risk of blowing 40K before making profit in less than two hours if variance isn’t there. Hoping he could pull off shoving cash in one machine while playing another and being able to last 6 hours (I think) before the risk of getting thrown out happens. Hoping to have another machine to play while waiting for WGs. If all his stars are aligned that day he could make up to 6K.
If this was a good example of AP’ing professionally, you guys are more fucked up than I ever imagined. Bottom line in my view, you’re nothing but a bunch of high risk gambling hustling con artist fools. Some may be still showing profits, but appears to be nothing carved in stone for a secure future.
Moving into my house in Nevada in a few months. I should be there often, and certainly wouldn’t want to meet up with any of you hustlers.